Everyone jumps on this bandwagon about what we’ve achieved and how we reached 2 euros finals and a semi final, in reality Southgate got easy runs and has choked whenever he’s faced decent opposition.
exactly, they didn't even deserve to get out of the group & should've got ko by slovakia in the last 16. when safegate took the job it was an average team & nobody else wanted the job. his record against other top ranked teams is like 1 win out of every 5 matches. he's not only the most lucky but also the biggest nearly man bottle job
But why is it you think we have an easy run, but before every single game it was “Netherlands are AMAZING England are arrogant for thinking they’ll win” and copy and paste that line for most of the games. And yet, when we get past them it’s “well it’s only xyz, it’s only Germany but a bad German team” in October last year “well we beat Italy 3-1 but it’s not the Italy of before” and it never ends. There will never be a route that people would say “wow England earned a final” never. Your jealousy is astounding over the mighty English.
Forget premier league, he’s not even good enough to get a job in the championship. There’s even been Sheffield Wednesday fans who said that they didn’t want him anywhere close to their club.
why would anybody want to manage in the corrupt premier league , this whole thing re england makes me laugh , its strange how they never had such a big go at the premier league last season on this show
Literally every footballer on sky "Southgate must stay". Dawson,carra, Geoff Hurst. What are these on????? Mark palios saying "he has to decide for himself". What????
Southgate should go and manage a Pizza Hut. Let someone else manage England, someone with a fresher, more attacking approach who isn't afraid to take risks.
World class players need a world class coach. It’s as simple as that. We have to look abroad. Throw the chequebook at Klopp for gods sake. There has never been a bigger no brainer in football
Southgate's runs to the finals/semi finals have been absolutly piss easy. As soon as he has managed us against a side that's a 50/50 match or against a side in the top 10 we've lost
Why didn't Mr Southgate go out and attack the opposition? We needed a pacy left winger (Rashford or Gordon) and a fast No. 9 to stretch the opposition (Watkins). He's too fearful of losing. Too defensive. Over cautious.
You needed to play defensive counterattack. All of peps teams and spanish teams can be got at that way. Totally should've played pacer wingers to enable that, bowen gordon palmer Watkins etc. Even England's goal against spain was a counter!
FYI, i’ve enjoyed watching England more in tournaments when we didnt get as far. Football under Southgate has really been a difficult watch, despite whatever “progress” we’ve made in terms of tournament position
The two tournaments before southgate we scraped through the group and went out the Iceland in the last 16 (I'm sure you remember everyone calling it the worst england performance ever) and before that we went out in the group stage and still had to play one more game against Costa rica knowing we were out (it was 0-0) are you mental? Or trying to make a point and hoping everyone would just go with it
@@imobjectivelybalancedonTHEball It is probably the best team since about 2006 but this guy said it was more exciting before southgate? Like we used to play expansive football with elite coaches and managers making us a constantly free flowing exciting team. We've been rubbish my entire lifetime, now we're actually getting close and people are just as miserable as they were 10 years ago
@Jericho642 I m with you. Even the 4 - 1 loss to Germany we created a few chances. Iceland game was poor but other games we had more than just 45 mins of decent football. So much talent especially in this tournament and each performance got worse. Up until Dutch first half
I’m 28 and I’ve only ever seen England play good football at 2 tournaments that was euro 2004 and the World Cup in Qatar every other tournament has been dreadful 🤣
As a Spain fan, I was so happy to see the team Southgate put out. I was praying that he didn't change the team and was gutted when he took Kane off and then later when he put Palmer on. I thought the game was over at 1-1 as England had all the momentum. I was glad he didn't bring Gordon on as that kept Bellingham on the left where he was not a threat and we dealt with both wings so easily. The media in Spain are creating the team of the tournament, they have 6 Spanish players and no English, or sometimes one (Pickford). It shows how poorly England have played.
this is the way that i would have lined england up in the final against spain. pickford pickford trent guehi rice saka trent guehi rice saka mainoo OR mainoo bellingham foden bellingham foden palmer gordon palmer kane watkins watkins
A key point as to why he shouldn’t be a prem manager is that you don’t get extra time in league games. Gareth struggles to win matches in 90 minutes, even against lesser opponents (Slovenia Denmark Slovakia Switzerland). 4 draws, 2 wins and 1 loss with the best team in the league would get you 10 points from 7 games, which would get any top club manager sacked.
You can tell the Hardcore English football fans who have played the game from the casuals who have never played the game, don't understand the game and watch infrequently. The Hardcore know Southgate is rubbish and the Casuals say he's the most successful England manager ever.
I've supported england home and away for about 20 years. Been watching since 92. I miss the days before southgate when we had elite coaches and managers and pressed like a well oiled machine. We would sweep away the small teams and when we came up against teams as good as us, we never crumbled. The fans were always happy and never used to moan about the england manager. None of this final and semi final every two years nonsense. We won trophies all the time! We had a team of rubbish players like Cole, Campbell, terry, neville, scholes, Gerrard, lampard, Beckham, Owen, rooney. We were never blessed with southgates first team that got to a semi final of the world cup! Generational talents. Danny rose, ahsley young, Eric dier, Harry maguire. We didn't have the luxury of playing a midfield three of henderson, alli and lingard. Gareth scapegoat and the worst fans in the world
@@azapro911yeah like the other nations fan throwing plastic cups at opposing players cause the games not gone there way 😂 😂😂 but them English fans waving there pints about terrible stuff that 😅
This is what will happen: Southgate will make out he's undecided on whether to stay. The FA will offer him even more money. In a month's time Southgate will announce he's staying for another 4 years. We'll be fucked.
so how did that prediction work out for you then? I guess you are doing a victory jig of delight now as he has resigned🤣 dont get me wrong I have never been a big fan of him myself either and he was already the highest paid manager at the euros so it anyway five million quid a year aint bad is it so it was never about the money him staying on or not really imo anyway🤔 however ask yourself this question then who will they go out and replace him with and who will actually want to do the job🤔 a lot of pundits say the next manager has to be english and the best english manager in my view is eddie howe and he has already ruled himself out of the job already and says he is happy at newcastle that leaves you with graham potter who aint been seen in football circles since chelsea sacked him and lee carsley thats it as far as english managers and coaches are concerned🤣 he is the under 21 coach btw so maybe we are still fucked anyway as you said we were if southgate stayed on I cant believe I am saying this but maybe we would of been better of keeping him for the time being because if it is between the two managers I mentioned then I am not happy with that either personally they are not renowned for going after big name managers the english fa do you really trust them to get this decision correct now then because southgate has resigned because I certainly dont obviously the decision was taking out of thier hands they clearly wanted him to remain in the job🤔
The "Three Lions song" should be banned as it has become a jinx. Football hasnt come home since we started singing that bloody song, I'm beginning to hate it as much as a Scotsman does.
Southgate doesnt have the tactical knowledge to take England all the way to winning a competition. He has gone as far as he can but has come short. Fair enough on him, he has laid good foundations now it needs a coach with the next level.
Disagree. If he had laid good foundations, he surely would have won something, no? The foorball has regressed not improved. This is what happens when you try to coddle players.
Watching the way that England struggled in the two warm up games and in the group stages, against teams ranked 40/ 50th in the world, I thought that people were living in cuckoo land thinking that they could beat Spain in the final. The match stats make sobering reading for Southgate.
For 8 years Southgate was manager but never had the ability to get the best out of them.Regardless of the fact that we haven't under Southgate had a world class player .Southgate was out of his depth as he never had a plan B.Very lucky to get England job .Can't see a club taking him.
Southgate always plays to negative to scrape a 1-0 win or nick a draw and take it to extra time/penalties, we need a brave attacking manager, not a play it safe boring manager who refuses to take risks, Cole Palmer was one of the best young English premier league players last season yet Gareth only gives him 10mins at the end, start him and give him a chance to show what he can do.
Exactly. We weren't playing to actually win games, we were playing to not lose. It's obvious that Spain were the best team in this tournament. I would have respected the defeat more if we stuck it on them and went for it. We still would have probably lost but losing 5-3 is better than losing 2-1 because we tried to sit back and play anto football.
@@19822andy No shame in losing to this Spanish side. The shame comes from knowing that this English team played poorly surprisingly often from the very first whistle of the first group match to the final whistle in the final, and Southgate put in 10% of the expected effort trying to fix those problems. Even as the Spanish team was growing into the game in the second half and putting on fresh players to crank up the pressure, it felt like Southgate was hoarding his subs so he could put on his best array of pen takers at the end of overtime.
Did he just say that Potter doesn't have a big personality to win. What does personality have to do about winning. Jus get the system, get the players playing, and go for the win. You don't need a damn personality. You need man and game management. Simply put.
Simon undid everything he said by declaring, “every time we come against a team slightly better than us, we lose”. That’s the end statement. That’s the logic, and the reason. That’s why England didn’t win.
of course they will promote him, people like him don't get the sack. Any other business he would have been sacked long ago. He is a "corporate" man, a suit, who spouts the narrative of the day.
ive said this for years, Southgate has completely fluked his entire England career. hes a league 2 manager managing international players. he has no idea what he's doing and the English public are as clueless as he is
Tbh I can see West Ham and Crystal Palace looking at Southgate if they have a bad start to the season. But Southgate won’t get the sack, and Southgate will only resign if he feels he can get work else where.
I’d be absolutely devastated if my club hired Gareth Southgate, it would be a total waste of time. He’d be on borrowed time the minute he was hired. It would just be a pending pay off. Boring football.
Put it this way. If you fired Southpark and hired Klopp right before the Euros the odds makers would have been massively changed. England would have been heavy favorites. They would have scored 3 to 1 average game. No improvement in defense but high octane rock and roll offense utilized all the players, everything.. 😅😅😅
We had an easy run to the finals and semi that we got to and still failed when we met one good team. Southgate has no clue how to use these players. He played an unfit Kane who's legs have gone and is only scoring when he has two rapid wingers. So what does he do? He doesn't play natural wingers and two guys who come inside which makes Kane useless out there. You cannot just throw your best players in anywhere and expect it to work. You find a system the players can play and everyone is capable of doing to their best. Then you drop who needs to be dropped. You cannot play them all and Foden or Bellingham had to sit it out. Gordon had to go in and Palmer too. But no, let's just stick them all in and hope for the best with no press. Genius
Southgate is a lovely guy and PR dream for the FA. He's a great man manager but poor tactician. He would never get the better of an equal or better team. If England were to play Spain in the final again tomorrow, his starting line up would not change. Kane would still play. He's the perfect example of a chap who does the same thing yet expects different result.
I would say we saw the limits of his man management. While England was crawling out of the doldrums, Southgate seemed reasonably coherent and competent, regardless of understandable criticisms of his defensive style. People liked him while England seemed to be improving and now getting taken seriously as contenders. Being liked personally was (mis)labelled "good man management". But this tournament, Southgate's starting selection and substitutions were downright bizarre. "Man management" devolved into succumbing to the pressure via playing favorites with the players, and Southgate put his visions of personal loyalty above any awareness of how well players were performing on the pitch. That is not good man management. Good man management is getting good performances out of cobbled together lineups of over 20 different outfield players, like Jurgen Klopp did last season. The hard part of being a national team manager is cobbling things together when you some limitations on your roster. Southgate seems to be especially bad at that. He had me wondering if he even knew who was sitting on the bench, when there were obvious substitutions that would likely improve what was happening on the pitch.
I keep reading and hearing that Southgate "united the nation". Not so, I think he was divisive. The Pundits and Newspapers think he was a great communicator and brought the team together. The fans think he was tactically naive and was always defensively minded. Man Utd did want Southgate a while back and that would have been a disaster. I doubt very much if any Premiership club outside the top 12 at this moment in time would want anything to do with him.
All the FA wanted was for Gareth to be the face and Steve Holland will run the team fact !!! he accepted the job on the basis he didnt run the team , knowing he is well out of his depth .. but the FA still convinced him to be the face
Be interesting to see if he gets a Prem job. I was wondering what mug of a chairman would take him on? If he does get a prem job I fully expect the team to struggle. Better managers in league 1
Southgate will go and get a big prem team job now. He’s done an amazing job with England, no other manager could achieve what he had with such average players
I think the demands of international and club management is very different. Southgate hasn’t got a style of play and philosophy. He’s a great politician, speaks well, can maintain the harmony which is important when calling up players who all are competitive against each other at club level. But the club game is more cut throat, technical, financial implications are massive and he’s not up to it
National teams can succeed with simple tactical systems applied merely highly competently, with flexibility and understanding of how to help the players succeed in the system. Southgate fell short in terms of showing flexibility and understanding.
He has I mean dealing with the pressure alone and winning a large amount of his matches under that pressure means he could definitely manage teams outside the top 7 or 8.
I'm club before country every day and Southgate has been linked (by the over-excited press) with my club. With that in mind I'd love to see him be awarded a new 50 year contract with the national team. Southgate is a repeated loser - and I'm not trying to be mean - just by definition that he has never won. The FA love him because he is a yes-man but just listen to him speak; he couldn't inspire me to leave a burning building.
There are plenty of a*seholes in the world of football and Southgate certainly isn’t one of them. He’s been an excellent man-manager who the players have clearly bonded with. I can’t imagine a situation where he would have ever ‘lost the dressing room’. And his understated personality will have really helped the young blood coming into the squad feel at ease immediately. At the very least he deserves a lot of credit for this. Southgate is also evidently an intelligent and considered individual who has helped bring credibility back to the national team. Is English football in a better place than when he took over in 2016? Undoubtedly. Again, he deserves a lot of credit for this. I can’t help feeling that Southgate would make an excellent leader within the F.A. He’s likeable and smart enough to do a lot of good behind the scenes in the world of football. And I’m hoping someone has taken notice of this. But. And the ‘but’ was always coming. He is an average coach from a technical perspective. I think even behind closed doors Southgate would admit this himself, because he’s honest. With the attacking players England have at their disposal they should have been capable of singing from the hymn sheet this tournament in terms of attacking flair, but under Southgate they’ve barely managed a hum. Croatia finished the tournament with a higher xG than England, and they were knocked out at the group stages. I think this says a lot. England’s exploits against Switzerland and the Netherlands were clearly improved. But if we’re being honest, England should have been sent packing after the Slovakia game. Jude Bellingham’s bicycle kick 25 seconds from the final whistle was a Hail Mary moment that you cannot reasonably legislate for. No coach - not even a Sir Alex or a Pep - could credibly come out and claim they played the way they did (and didn’t make the substitutions they didn’t) because they knew Jude would pop up with that right at the death. It was a complete wing and a prayer moment. If you re-ran that phase of play another nine times it would not end up with an England goal. And we would have been out. Normal circumstances would have had England falling at the last 16 stage to Slovakia and the pundits would have been outraged at the latest ‘Iceland’ moment. If this had happened, Southgate would have been absolutely obliterated by the critics for good measure. Southgate has had eight years at the helm and four tournaments. Two European Championship Finals and a World Cup Semi-Final and Quarter-Final to boot. Highly respectable achievements, and regardless of what happens in the coming days and weeks Southgate will go down as one of the most successful modern-day England managers. But if this England squad want to hit the heights - and by that I mean not just win a tournament, but to do it with some modicum of style befitting of the quality of players available - then a better coach is needed. Considering the age of talented players England have at their disposal right now alongside those currently in the youth pipeline, I think they have a window of opportunity to win a tournament between 2026 and 2034. But they’re only going to do that if they have a top-level coach. It’s as simple as that. England need an elite coach to navigate those final stages of a tournament when they inevitably come up against exceptional opposition. This year that opposition was Spain. But in the years to come it could easily be a France, a Portugal, or a resurgent Germany. And that’s just Europe. To win a World Cup it’s also likely you’re going to have to navigate at least one of Brazil and Argentina. And let’s not overlook Colombia who appear to be coming to power again. Southgate has been very effective at navigating opposition who we were expected to beat anyway. But once we’ve come up against top quality opponents we’ve almost always been found wanting. If you were to think of Southgate’s reign as a 110m hurdle race where the starting line represents England at their lowest ebb in 2016 after being knocked out by Iceland, and the finishing line represents World Cup / Euro glory. Southgate has got England all the way to the last hurdle. But he can’t get over it. And we won’t ever be able to get over it. The last leap and the subsequent 15m sprint to the finishing line will need to be completed by another individual who has the acumen to find the right balance and formation for this talented pool of players and the in-game management skills to take the correct risks at the correct times. Does Southgate deserve the level of vitriol he receives from certain quarters? Absolutely not - and Gareth is clearly a decent individual who deserves a lot of respect for the way he’s conducted himself over the last eight years. But that doesn’t mean any criticism against his tactical approach is invalid. Long story short - Southgate is a good egg who has hit his ceiling. He deserves a firm handshake and a pat on the back, but his race is run. The final step for England will have to be taken by someone else.
Some managers are better at managing at international level than club and the reverse is true. Potter would be ideal and we all know he is holding out for it.
this argument that Southgate has given us better times than any manger since 1966 is pure drivel and nonsense. Never have I seen in this tournament such a talented group of players butcher the beautiful game the way Southgate did with his safety first team selections of players who were clearly not fit and/or tired and his boring cowardly negative tactics. In seven games England probably played decent football for 60 mins and that always nearly came when we went 1 down.
I don't get how media say He's done a great job in uniting the nation. As far as I'm aware the country stops for a massive international game. Brazi and Portugal x 2 QF and Germany SF were massive is just amplified by social media
Simply put, Southgate is not tactically astute to make the necessary adjustments in match. We see it, time and time again. Nothing will change if he continues as national team manager.
Simon saying that Southgate is basically unemployable, which is harsh. Having said that, he could do worse than go to a medium sized club in the doldrums in the Championship, and guide them back to the Prem and keep them there (eg a WBA, Sunderland, Blackburn etc).
I feel sorry for whoever has to suffer his management next. Sets up to defend with top quality attackers. Imagine having Kane, Bellingham, Foden, Saka, Palmer, Watkins, at your disposal and you look like you're playing for penalties against the likes of Switzerland, Slovakia and Holland.
I do not see any PL team being interested in Southgate. If I were an owner, there are a lot more Championship managers I would rather take a chance on than Southgate. But a Championship club might give him an opportunity.
English footballers and managers simply don't know how to big tournaments coz none of them have won anything in 60 years. So they would be better off hiring a Juergen Klopp, Guardiola or Zidane to develop that winning mentality.
It doesn't matter who is brought in no manager we bring in will win a trophy. We are deluded to think otherwise. Spain were missing Gavi, pedri and Rodri for a half and still could of scored 4 or 5 on the night.
Can't help but think we have been spoiled by success, the lad has come along and constantly got us far! Nobody has suggested Southgate is learning! I have been against Southgate but the proof is in the pudding
Controversial take. Sam Alladyce would’ve given Spain a bigger challenge last night than Southgate did. Southgate is an ok “manager”, and a poor coach. He doesn’t have tactics. Yesterday’s game required tactics. Mourinho would have WON that match, by stopping Spain from playing and hitting them on the break. Big close/games require more than hugs and kisses from the man on the sidelines - they need a plan. SAF could coach very well yes, but he was the greatest “manager” there ever has been. he knew what he was excellent at vs. What he was “only” very good at. That is why he employed excellent coaches, so he could focus on basically everything else. If they want to keep Southgate they need to surround him with people who can lead the in game tactics / coaching, and he needs to be humble enough to accept that or leave. preferably he leaves.
If a premiership club decided to appoint Southgate the fans would stop it happening, Southgate is a Championship manager and will find it difficult to find a premiership club because the fans won't except negative and defensive football.
Quite simply he doesn't have an elite mind set nor has he got any credibility when it comes to winning anything, he was the same as a player and same as a manager (highlight was getting Middlesbrough relegated), and people forget that he got the England job by default being the u21 coach due to Big sams cockup in the short time he was manager. In short England need Klopp or someone of that ilk!
Southgate wouldn't get any job in the English Premier League. And folks were saying that he could get the Manchester United job. That was and is still laughable. I can promise that if Southgate ever had to audacity to consider himself worthy to manage at OT, we would make his life a living hell from minute one.
Heard Southgate's opening a ski jump facility. For the design he's using nature as his inspiration. He gets up, looks in the mirror and then turns his head in, like in a mugshot.
Thats like testing someone for an indepth analysis of nietzsches work after a 12 minute read through, you'd need year(s) to get his philosophy into some of them fellas heads.
Guys, Southgate gave us 2 finals and a semi final. Ok, his tactics were very negative and his team formation were poor, along with having very easy draws to get to the final, BUT we have actually seen England in the Football tournament. England should have won both finals and could have won the 2018 World Cup but negative tactics gave negative results. Southgate brought excitement and hope to this country - we should think about that rather than slagging him off.
❤ new manager for England 🏴 old man out new manager in boring football from manager in 2024 😮 new 👍 manager for England yes please come on you England 🏴..
SEMIFINALS and FINALS in ENGLAND'S HISTORY: Alf Ramsey- 1966 WC Winners, 1968 EURO Semifinal Bobby Robson- 1990 WC Semifinal Gareth Southgate: 2018 WC Semifinal, 2021 EURO Final, 2024 EURO Final So, out of 6 biggest results in England's history, he has 3. He accomplished his 3 in 6 years. 50 years before Southgate, England had 1 WC Semifinal. 50 years. In the last 40 years of playing big tournaments, England beat Germany 2 times, and Argentina once. Those are victories against crem de la creme teams in the last 40 years. 2 of them came in the Group stage. Who tf you think you are? Lmao
Southgate is a highly skilled manager performing miracles in a tough job. When he does leave he will walk into real Madrid, Barcelona any top job......said absolutely nobody.
Everyone jumps on this bandwagon about what we’ve achieved and how we reached 2 euros finals and a semi final, in reality Southgate got easy runs and has choked whenever he’s faced decent opposition.
Yes and no. Don’t forget we beat Germany in 21
exactly, they didn't even deserve to get out of the group & should've got ko by slovakia in the last 16. when safegate took the job it was an average team & nobody else wanted the job. his record against other top ranked teams is like 1 win out of every 5 matches. he's not only the most lucky but also the biggest nearly man bottle job
But why is it you think we have an easy run, but before every single game it was “Netherlands are AMAZING England are arrogant for thinking they’ll win” and copy and paste that line for most of the games. And yet, when we get past them it’s “well it’s only xyz, it’s only Germany but a bad German team” in October last year “well we beat Italy 3-1 but it’s not the Italy of before” and it never ends. There will never be a route that people would say “wow England earned a final” never. Your jealousy is astounding over the mighty English.
We have achieved nothing.
Serial losers. And the FA are happy to be that. What a shambles
Worst German team since football began in 21
SJ talking facts. I wouldn’t let the bloke manage my 5 a side team
I'm sure he's devastated
SJ may be talking facts but let's not forget how he predicted England were going to win and Southgate was going to redeem himself.
but yet you wanted to knight him after the holland game. deluded nation
He doesn't know yet @@hyywe240
When the dust settles and england go back to losing all the time, they will miss him @@TheGeneral_LUFC
Forget premier league, he’s not even good enough to get a job in the championship. There’s even been Sheffield Wednesday fans who said that they didn’t want him anywhere close to their club.
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Let the Blades have him..........
Sheffield Wednesday 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@20tiiimes WAWAW!
why would anybody want to manage in the corrupt premier league , this whole thing re england makes me laugh , its strange how they never had such a big go at the premier league last season on this show
Southgate is a proven Championship manager .... after all he did relegate Middlesbrough to the Championship.
He was a dei pick.
@@dogsbollox4335Please explain that one, please do.
Literally every footballer on sky "Southgate must stay". Dawson,carra, Geoff Hurst. What are these on????? Mark palios saying "he has to decide for himself". What????
Simon Jordan is right, he needed to win the Euro's to get a Premier League job, I could possibly see him getting a Job in the Championship though.
His Football ⚽️ is beyond boring 😴
Let’s hope UTD go all out for him.
@@pondelf166 He is not going to Utd!
@@JamesJohnAgarHe’s literally the perfect mid table manager.
lol I said it before the season ended when there were rumours that I will never watch utd with soygate as manager.😂
Southgate should go and manage a Pizza Hut. Let someone else manage England, someone with a fresher, more attacking approach who isn't afraid to take risks.
fat frank. lineker could be on to something with fat franky lampard
And someone with authority and a stronger character, he's always been a drip with no charisma...
You can forget the hawain then that’s way to right wing
Like who?
@@JRW1886 Ian Wright be good... Knows the game inside out, straight talker, strong character, respected by all
World class players need a world class coach. It’s as simple as that. We have to look abroad. Throw the chequebook at Klopp for gods sake. There has never been a bigger no brainer in football
the quality of English coaching is shocking.
You’re right, foreign managers changed English football for the better
If English coaches were good enough Southgate wouldn’t be England manager
@maestro = principalmente, ¿ qué tipo maestro de estás
Entonces - tu respuesta incluyendo el escocés 😮
@@MaestroPlaymakerforeigners saved Britain for the better and still are ❤
Eddie Howe surely?
SOUTHGATE OUT NOW.
Southgate out now
Southgate's runs to the finals/semi finals have been absolutly piss easy. As soon as he has managed us against a side that's a 50/50 match or against a side in the top 10 we've lost
And Iceland....😂
It’s funny that the pro Southgate mob are always the first ones to say they wouldn’t want him as manager of their club…😏
Exactly the same at my club, West Ham, about Moyes before we finally wised up & sacked the mug.
What previous england manager would you have at your club? Big Sam? Roy Hodgson? Sven?
Same purpose and thing with the radical ⬅️
I include all at bbc, unis, polis, those attacking our cenotaphs etc etc
Why didn't Mr Southgate go out and attack the opposition? We needed a pacy left winger (Rashford or Gordon) and a fast No. 9 to stretch the opposition (Watkins). He's too fearful of losing. Too defensive. Over cautious.
You needed to play defensive counterattack. All of peps teams and spanish teams can be got at that way. Totally should've played pacer wingers to enable that, bowen gordon palmer Watkins etc. Even England's goal against spain was a counter!
If Southgate had any shame he would've resigned yesterday
And Lose money? 💰 😂😂😂
@@suspiciousafternoon £5millions per year salary as a manager of England football team.
Southgate should be nowhere near the Football Association. That would be an act of utter madness.
FYI, i’ve enjoyed watching England more in tournaments when we didnt get as far. Football under Southgate has really been a difficult watch, despite whatever “progress” we’ve made in terms of tournament position
The two tournaments before southgate we scraped through the group and went out the Iceland in the last 16 (I'm sure you remember everyone calling it the worst england performance ever) and before that we went out in the group stage and still had to play one more game against Costa rica knowing we were out (it was 0-0) are you mental? Or trying to make a point and hoping everyone would just go with it
@@hyywe240 that squad was average compared to the current squad they've now
@@imobjectivelybalancedonTHEball It is probably the best team since about 2006 but this guy said it was more exciting before southgate? Like we used to play expansive football with elite coaches and managers making us a constantly free flowing exciting team. We've been rubbish my entire lifetime, now we're actually getting close and people are just as miserable as they were 10 years ago
@Jericho642 I m with you. Even the 4 - 1 loss to Germany we created a few chances. Iceland game was poor but other games we had more than just 45 mins of decent football. So much talent especially in this tournament and each performance got worse. Up until Dutch first half
I’m 28 and I’ve only ever seen England play good football at 2 tournaments that was euro 2004 and the World Cup in Qatar every other tournament has been dreadful 🤣
Simon Jordan is as ever factually spot on,always backs his talk up with plain concise facts like him or hate him delivers a good argument 👍
He does . ✅
And the occasional and the (frequent of visitors to the channel) socialist commies or/and this new ₩0k€ age despise him for it.
As a Spain fan, I was so happy to see the team Southgate put out. I was praying that he didn't change the team and was gutted when he took Kane off and then later when he put Palmer on. I thought the game was over at 1-1 as England had all the momentum.
I was glad he didn't bring Gordon on as that kept Bellingham on the left where he was not a threat and we dealt with both wings so easily.
The media in Spain are creating the team of the tournament, they have 6 Spanish players and no English, or sometimes one (Pickford). It shows how poorly England have played.
all of their best players were either not in the right position or sitting on the bench
this is the way that i would have lined england up in the final against spain.
pickford pickford
trent guehi rice saka trent guehi rice saka
mainoo OR mainoo bellingham
foden bellingham foden palmer gordon
palmer kane watkins watkins
A key point as to why he shouldn’t be a prem manager is that you don’t get extra time in league games. Gareth struggles to win matches in 90 minutes, even against lesser opponents (Slovenia Denmark Slovakia Switzerland). 4 draws, 2 wins and 1 loss with the best team in the league would get you 10 points from 7 games, which would get any top club manager sacked.
If it's an English manager, your choices are basically Howe, Dyche and Potter.
any hope with any of them?
@@Lomaisundisputed More hope than with Gareth
The state of English managerial football
Lampard
Dyche?
Behave. What an awful manager. Couldn’t even keep the ball with a Southgate team, how bad would our ball retention be with Dyche?
Awful
You can tell the Hardcore English football fans who have played the game from the casuals who have never played the game, don't understand the game and watch infrequently. The Hardcore know Southgate is rubbish and the Casuals say he's the most successful England manager ever.
Spot on. Ramsey won a World Cup but apparently, Southgate has been more successful!
'Hardcore English football fans' = also clueless but wave their pint around more vigorously and shout louder. 🤷♂️
So true
I've supported england home and away for about 20 years. Been watching since 92. I miss the days before southgate when we had elite coaches and managers and pressed like a well oiled machine. We would sweep away the small teams and when we came up against teams as good as us, we never crumbled. The fans were always happy and never used to moan about the england manager. None of this final and semi final every two years nonsense. We won trophies all the time! We had a team of rubbish players like Cole, Campbell, terry, neville, scholes, Gerrard, lampard, Beckham, Owen, rooney. We were never blessed with southgates first team that got to a semi final of the world cup! Generational talents. Danny rose, ahsley young, Eric dier, Harry maguire. We didn't have the luxury of playing a midfield three of henderson, alli and lingard. Gareth scapegoat and the worst fans in the world
@@azapro911yeah like the other nations fan throwing plastic cups at opposing players cause the games not gone there way 😂 😂😂 but them English fans waving there pints about terrible stuff that 😅
He’s a championship manager at best. He’s wasted 7 years of our time and talent. 😢😢
8 years now
@@corrupt1238 Now I’m really sad. 🤣😥🤬
This is what will happen:
Southgate will make out he's undecided on whether to stay. The FA will offer him even more money. In a month's time Southgate will announce he's staying for another 4 years. We'll be fucked.
so how did that prediction work out for you then? I guess you are doing a victory jig of delight now as he has resigned🤣 dont get me wrong I have never been a big fan of him myself either and he was already the highest paid manager at the euros so it anyway five million quid a year aint bad is it so it was never about the money him staying on or not really imo anyway🤔 however ask yourself this question then who will they go out and replace him with and who will actually want to do the job🤔 a lot of pundits say the next manager has to be english and the best english manager in my view is eddie howe and he has already ruled himself out of the job already and says he is happy at newcastle that leaves you with graham potter who aint been seen in football circles since chelsea sacked him and lee carsley thats it as far as english managers and coaches are concerned🤣 he is the under 21 coach btw so maybe we are still fucked anyway as you said we were if southgate stayed on I cant believe I am saying this but maybe we would of been better of keeping him for the time being because if it is between the two managers I mentioned then I am not happy with that either personally they are not renowned for going after big name managers the english fa do you really trust them to get this decision correct now then because southgate has resigned because I certainly dont obviously the decision was taking out of thier hands they clearly wanted him to remain in the job🤔
Just like the feckn Labour Party
(And I ain't no tory)
Southgate is more suitable for a job as an executive in the FA
The bookkeeper. Paid holidays, free tea.
The "Three Lions song" should be banned as it has become a jinx. Football hasnt come home since we started singing that bloody song, I'm beginning to hate it as much as a Scotsman does.
Spot on 👌
Completely agree. We beat a team that we should be expected to batter and we get a sloppy 1-0 and suddenly everyone blares out it’s coming home. Crazy
And 'ITS COMING HOME' hate it!
bring back world cup Willie brought us success 66
To be pedantic football didn't come home 30 years prior to that song either. Kane and southgate are the real jinxes
Southgate doesnt have the tactical knowledge to take England all the way to winning a competition. He has gone as far as he can but has come short. Fair enough on him, he has laid good foundations now it needs a coach with the next level.
Is limited edition coach 😂
Disagree. If he had laid good foundations, he surely would have won something, no? The foorball has regressed not improved. This is what happens when you try to coddle players.
If you want a manager who plays shite football, gaslights his critics and loses against any team with a shred of quality, Southgate is your man.
Southgate would fit a club like
Arsenal perfectly.
He could take saka to another level - Portsmouth FC
Watching the way that England struggled in the two warm up games and in the group stages, against teams ranked 40/ 50th in the world, I thought that people were living in cuckoo land thinking that they could beat Spain in the final. The match stats make sobering reading for Southgate.
Simon is right, I would be happy to see Löw as the next captain. He understands why a good brain is needed for a player.
The Ipswich manager would be a better shout for England tbh
For 8 years Southgate was manager but never had the ability to get the best out of them.Regardless of the fact that we haven't under Southgate had a world class player .Southgate was out of his depth as he never had a plan B.Very lucky to get England job .Can't see a club taking him.
Southgate a good ambassador? For what, middle-aged nerds? He's the epitome of mediocrity.
Southgate always plays to negative to scrape a 1-0 win or nick a draw and take it to extra time/penalties, we need a brave attacking manager, not a play it safe boring manager who refuses to take risks, Cole Palmer was one of the best young English premier league players last season yet Gareth only gives him 10mins at the end, start him and give him a chance to show what he can do.
England always just seem scared to lose and shocked when a team actually shows up and plays against them.
Exactly. We weren't playing to actually win games, we were playing to not lose.
It's obvious that Spain were the best team in this tournament. I would have respected the defeat more if we stuck it on them and went for it. We still would have probably lost but losing 5-3 is better than losing 2-1 because we tried to sit back and play anto football.
@@19822andy No shame in losing to this Spanish side. The shame comes from knowing that this English team played poorly surprisingly often from the very first whistle of the first group match to the final whistle in the final, and Southgate put in 10% of the expected effort trying to fix those problems.
Even as the Spanish team was growing into the game in the second half and putting on fresh players to crank up the pressure, it felt like Southgate was hoarding his subs so he could put on his best array of pen takers at the end of overtime.
Did he just say that Potter doesn't have a big personality to win. What does personality have to do about winning. Jus get the system, get the players playing, and go for the win. You don't need a damn personality. You need man and game management. Simply put.
Simon undid everything he said by declaring, “every time we come against a team slightly better than us, we lose”.
That’s the end statement.
That’s the logic, and the reason.
That’s why England didn’t win.
of course they will promote him, people like him don't get the sack. Any other business he would have been sacked long ago. He is a "corporate" man, a suit, who spouts the narrative of the day.
ive said this for years, Southgate has completely fluked his entire England career. hes a league 2 manager managing international players. he has no idea what he's doing and the English public are as clueless as he is
So are you one of the English fans?
And Simon would be right on this occasion.
He had a job at Middlesbrough got shot out the door there
Tbh I can see West Ham and Crystal Palace looking at Southgate if they have a bad start to the season.
But Southgate won’t get the sack, and Southgate will only resign if he feels he can get work else where.
Simon called it
Average manager at best
I’d be absolutely devastated if my club hired Gareth Southgate, it would be a total waste of time. He’d be on borrowed time the minute he was hired. It would just be a pending pay off. Boring football.
Put it this way. If you fired Southpark and hired Klopp right before the Euros the odds makers would have been massively changed. England would have been heavy favorites. They would have scored 3 to 1 average game. No improvement in defense but high octane rock and roll offense utilized all the players, everything.. 😅😅😅
❌Wining is not a big deal if the team performs well. 😒 FA & its Southgate made England a joke 🤢🤢🤮 The spurs of the world 🤢🤢🤮
Simon is spot on as usual. It's a fair analysis.
We had an easy run to the finals and semi that we got to and still failed when we met one good team. Southgate has no clue how to use these players. He played an unfit Kane who's legs have gone and is only scoring when he has two rapid wingers. So what does he do? He doesn't play natural wingers and two guys who come inside which makes Kane useless out there. You cannot just throw your best players in anywhere and expect it to work. You find a system the players can play and everyone is capable of doing to their best. Then you drop who needs to be dropped. You cannot play them all and Foden or Bellingham had to sit it out. Gordon had to go in and Palmer too. But no, let's just stick them all in and hope for the best with no press. Genius
England is international Kane😅
I concur simon , tactics have no place in the mind of Mr Southgate
Potter wasn't the problem at Chelsea the way the board acted was
Southgate is a lovely guy and PR dream for the FA. He's a great man manager but poor tactician. He would never get the better of an equal or better team. If England were to play Spain in the final again tomorrow, his starting line up would not change. Kane would still play. He's the perfect example of a chap who does the same thing yet expects different result.
What evidence is there hes a great man manager? Just cuz the players like him
I would say we saw the limits of his man management. While England was crawling out of the doldrums, Southgate seemed reasonably coherent and competent, regardless of understandable criticisms of his defensive style. People liked him while England seemed to be improving and now getting taken seriously as contenders. Being liked personally was (mis)labelled "good man management".
But this tournament, Southgate's starting selection and substitutions were downright bizarre. "Man management" devolved into succumbing to the pressure via playing favorites with the players, and Southgate put his visions of personal loyalty above any awareness of how well players were performing on the pitch. That is not good man management.
Good man management is getting good performances out of cobbled together lineups of over 20 different outfield players, like Jurgen Klopp did last season. The hard part of being a national team manager is cobbling things together when you some limitations on your roster. Southgate seems to be especially bad at that. He had me wondering if he even knew who was sitting on the bench, when there were obvious substitutions that would likely improve what was happening on the pitch.
I keep reading and hearing that Southgate "united the nation". Not so, I think he was divisive. The Pundits and Newspapers think he was a great communicator and brought the team together. The fans think he was tactically naive and was always defensively minded.
Man Utd did want Southgate a while back and that would have been a disaster. I doubt very much if any Premiership club outside the top 12 at this moment in time would want anything to do with him.
All the FA wanted was for Gareth to be the face and Steve Holland will run the team fact !!! he accepted the job on the basis he didnt run the team , knowing he is well out of his depth .. but the FA still convinced him to be the face
Be interesting to see if he gets a Prem job. I was wondering what mug of a chairman would take him on? If he does get a prem job I fully expect the team to struggle. Better managers in league 1
Southgate will go and get a big prem team job now. He’s done an amazing job with England, no other manager could achieve what he had with such average players
I think the demands of international and club management is very different. Southgate hasn’t got a style of play and philosophy. He’s a great politician, speaks well, can maintain the harmony which is important when calling up players who all are competitive against each other at club level. But the club game is more cut throat, technical, financial implications are massive and he’s not up to it
National teams can succeed with simple tactical systems applied merely highly competently, with flexibility and understanding of how to help the players succeed in the system. Southgate fell short in terms of showing flexibility and understanding.
Southgate won't even get a Championship job. No club supporters want him.
Even Greggs would laugh at his CV!
He has I mean dealing with the pressure alone and winning a large amount of his matches under that pressure means he could definitely manage teams outside the top 7 or 8.
I'm club before country every day and Southgate has been linked (by the over-excited press) with my club. With that in mind I'd love to see him be awarded a new 50 year contract with the national team. Southgate is a repeated loser - and I'm not trying to be mean - just by definition that he has never won. The FA love him because he is a yes-man but just listen to him speak; he couldn't inspire me to leave a burning building.
There are plenty of a*seholes in the world of football and Southgate certainly isn’t one of them. He’s been an excellent man-manager who the players have clearly bonded with. I can’t imagine a situation where he would have ever ‘lost the dressing room’. And his understated personality will have really helped the young blood coming into the squad feel at ease immediately. At the very least he deserves a lot of credit for this.
Southgate is also evidently an intelligent and considered individual who has helped bring credibility back to the national team. Is English football in a better place than when he took over in 2016? Undoubtedly. Again, he deserves a lot of credit for this.
I can’t help feeling that Southgate would make an excellent leader within the F.A. He’s likeable and smart enough to do a lot of good behind the scenes in the world of football. And I’m hoping someone has taken notice of this.
But. And the ‘but’ was always coming. He is an average coach from a technical perspective. I think even behind closed doors Southgate would admit this himself, because he’s honest.
With the attacking players England have at their disposal they should have been capable of singing from the hymn sheet this tournament in terms of attacking flair, but under Southgate they’ve barely managed a hum. Croatia finished the tournament with a higher xG than England, and they were knocked out at the group stages. I think this says a lot.
England’s exploits against Switzerland and the Netherlands were clearly improved. But if we’re being honest, England should have been sent packing after the Slovakia game.
Jude Bellingham’s bicycle kick 25 seconds from the final whistle was a Hail Mary moment that you cannot reasonably legislate for. No coach - not even a Sir Alex or a Pep - could credibly come out and claim they played the way they did (and didn’t make the substitutions they didn’t) because they knew Jude would pop up with that right at the death. It was a complete wing and a prayer moment. If you re-ran that phase of play another nine times it would not end up with an England goal. And we would have been out.
Normal circumstances would have had England falling at the last 16 stage to Slovakia and the pundits would have been outraged at the latest ‘Iceland’ moment. If this had happened, Southgate would have been absolutely obliterated by the critics for good measure.
Southgate has had eight years at the helm and four tournaments. Two European Championship Finals and a World Cup Semi-Final and Quarter-Final to boot. Highly respectable achievements, and regardless of what happens in the coming days and weeks Southgate will go down as one of the most successful modern-day England managers.
But if this England squad want to hit the heights - and by that I mean not just win a tournament, but to do it with some modicum of style befitting of the quality of players available - then a better coach is needed.
Considering the age of talented players England have at their disposal right now alongside those currently in the youth pipeline, I think they have a window of opportunity to win a tournament between 2026 and 2034. But they’re only going to do that if they have a top-level coach. It’s as simple as that. England need an elite coach to navigate those final stages of a tournament when they inevitably come up against exceptional opposition.
This year that opposition was Spain. But in the years to come it could easily be a France, a Portugal, or a resurgent Germany. And that’s just Europe. To win a World Cup it’s also likely you’re going to have to navigate at least one of Brazil and Argentina. And let’s not overlook Colombia who appear to be coming to power again.
Southgate has been very effective at navigating opposition who we were expected to beat anyway. But once we’ve come up against top quality opponents we’ve almost always been found wanting.
If you were to think of Southgate’s reign as a 110m hurdle race where the starting line represents England at their lowest ebb in 2016 after being knocked out by Iceland, and the finishing line represents World Cup / Euro glory. Southgate has got England all the way to the last hurdle. But he can’t get over it. And we won’t ever be able to get over it. The last leap and the subsequent 15m sprint to the finishing line will need to be completed by another individual who has the acumen to find the right balance and formation for this talented pool of players and the in-game management skills to take the correct risks at the correct times.
Does Southgate deserve the level of vitriol he receives from certain quarters? Absolutely not - and Gareth is clearly a decent individual who deserves a lot of respect for the way he’s conducted himself over the last eight years. But that doesn’t mean any criticism against his tactical approach is invalid.
Long story short - Southgate is a good egg who has hit his ceiling. He deserves a firm handshake and a pat on the back, but his race is run. The final step for England will have to be taken by someone else.
Bloody hell, calm down Steve.........did you have the day off or something?!
Southgate mum wrote that long dribble of poo
Some managers are better at managing at international level than club and the reverse is true. Potter would be ideal and we all know he is holding out for it.
Yes when psg, Bayern and Barcelona all came in for him he said no I'm waiting for the call from England
How’s Southgate gonna manage a top club when he doesn’t agree with the high press? Or wanting to be. N underdog at a club with massive expectations?
this argument that Southgate has given us better times than any manger since 1966 is pure drivel and nonsense. Never have I seen in this tournament such a talented group of players butcher the beautiful game the way Southgate did with his safety first team selections of players who were clearly not fit and/or tired and his boring cowardly negative tactics. In seven games England probably played decent football for 60 mins and that always nearly came when we went 1 down.
I don't get how media say He's done a great job in uniting the nation. As far as I'm aware the country stops for a massive international game. Brazi and Portugal x 2 QF and Germany SF were massive is just amplified by social media
Simply put, Southgate is not tactically astute to make the necessary adjustments in match. We see it, time and time again. Nothing will change if he continues as national team manager.
Simon saying that Southgate is basically unemployable, which is harsh. Having said that, he could do worse than go to a medium sized club in the doldrums in the Championship, and guide them back to the Prem and keep them there (eg a WBA, Sunderland, Blackburn etc).
Kane is finished. Southgate must step down. England must move on from Kane and Southgate.
Kane was clearly injured shouldn't been playing far from finished
@@mrw.2361 He shouldn't have been playing then. end of.
@@thewomble1509 I know that's what I said
@@mrw.2361 Sorry, my mistake.
I feel sorry for whoever has to suffer his management next. Sets up to defend with top quality attackers. Imagine having Kane, Bellingham, Foden, Saka, Palmer, Watkins, at your disposal and you look like you're playing for penalties against the likes of Switzerland, Slovakia and Holland.
I do not see any PL team being interested in Southgate. If I were an owner, there are a lot more Championship managers I would rather take a chance on than Southgate. But a Championship club might give him an opportunity.
The last English Coach who won something was Harry Redknapp with Portsmouth
When they picked up the FA Cup
Not exactly stacked with talent
Why has he still not resigned??
League 1 job at best, punditry or manage abroad. Tactics O.O.D!!
English footballers and managers simply don't know how to big tournaments coz none of them have won anything in 60 years. So they would be better off hiring a Juergen Klopp, Guardiola or Zidane to develop that winning mentality.
“Go upstairs to do what?” 😂😂
It doesn't matter who is brought in no manager we bring in will win a trophy.
We are deluded to think otherwise.
Spain were missing Gavi, pedri and Rodri for a half and still could of scored 4 or 5 on the night.
Can't help but think we have been spoiled by success, the lad has come along and constantly got us far! Nobody has suggested Southgate is learning! I have been against Southgate but the proof is in the pudding
Southgate should go and take the FA hierachy with him, rewarding mediocrity with another long term contract is bonkers.
I concur with Simon.
Love how Jim has to over explain everything, '...Simon's at London Bridge... in the UK capital'. Cheers for clarifying where London Bridge is👌🏽😂
He’s right ,he’s not an elite coach
Don't look so smug Jim😂
I agree, Man utd dodged a bullet in regards to Southgate becoming their manager
With a stella bunch of players Southgate had at his disposal he should have brought the cup back. He's just not up to it, too ponderous.
He'd fit in at Tottenham
He's not worthy of England job he's not worthy of championship club let alone premier league
Controversial take. Sam Alladyce would’ve given Spain a bigger challenge last night than Southgate did.
Southgate is an ok “manager”, and a poor coach. He doesn’t have tactics. Yesterday’s game required tactics. Mourinho would have WON that match, by stopping Spain from playing and hitting them on the break. Big close/games require more than hugs and kisses from the man on the sidelines - they need a plan.
SAF could coach very well yes, but he was the greatest “manager” there ever has been. he knew what he was excellent at vs. What he was “only” very good at. That is why he employed excellent coaches, so he could focus on basically everything else.
If they want to keep Southgate they need to surround him with people who can lead the in game tactics / coaching, and he needs to be humble enough to accept that or leave. preferably he leaves.
Gareth wouldn't even qualify for a championship club. He could wash the players cars tho.
If a premiership club decided to appoint Southgate the fans would stop it happening, Southgate is a Championship manager and will find it difficult to find a premiership club because the fans won't except negative and defensive football.
Quite simply he doesn't have an elite mind set nor has he got any credibility when it comes to winning anything, he was the same as a player and same as a manager (highlight was getting Middlesbrough relegated), and people forget that he got the England job by default being the u21 coach due to Big sams cockup in the short time he was manager. In short England need Klopp or someone of that ilk!
Southgate wouldn't get any job in the English Premier League. And folks were saying that he could get the Manchester United job. That was and is still laughable. I can promise that if Southgate ever had to audacity to consider himself worthy to manage at OT, we would make his life a living hell from minute one.
Sell anything as long we win something
It's infuriating how this basic line is exactly how 99% of English fans and media think. Surprised you only have 1 like on this post.
Heard Southgate's opening a ski jump facility. For the design he's using nature as his inspiration. He gets up, looks in the mirror and then turns his head in, like in a mugshot.
Why is it even a full time job ? Pep could take on another half a dozen games a year.
Thats like testing someone for an indepth analysis of nietzsches work after a 12 minute read through, you'd need year(s) to get his philosophy into some of them fellas heads.
I don't think southgate could do a Scottish premier job either
He's bad but he's not that bad
He wouldn’t get Celtic or rangers but he’d be a sniff at some of them up there.
Guys, Southgate gave us 2 finals and a semi final. Ok, his tactics were very negative and his team formation were poor, along with having very easy draws to get to the final, BUT we have actually seen England in the Football tournament.
England should have won both finals and could have won the 2018 World Cup but negative tactics gave negative results.
Southgate brought excitement and hope to this country - we should think about that rather than slagging him off.
Southgate couldn't manage a club biscuit, let alone a football club
❤ new manager for England 🏴 old man out new manager in boring football from manager in 2024 😮 new 👍 manager for England yes please come on you England 🏴..
Who wants Southgate to be there next club manager not many if any do
SEMIFINALS and FINALS in ENGLAND'S HISTORY:
Alf Ramsey- 1966 WC Winners, 1968 EURO Semifinal
Bobby Robson- 1990 WC Semifinal
Gareth Southgate: 2018 WC Semifinal, 2021 EURO Final, 2024 EURO Final
So, out of 6 biggest results in England's history, he has 3. He accomplished his 3 in 6 years. 50 years before Southgate, England had 1 WC Semifinal. 50 years. In the last 40 years of playing big tournaments, England beat Germany 2 times, and Argentina once. Those are victories against crem de la creme teams in the last 40 years. 2 of them came in the Group stage. Who tf you think you are? Lmao
Southgate is a highly skilled manager performing miracles in a tough job. When he does leave he will walk into real Madrid, Barcelona any top job......said absolutely nobody.