I had taken lessons for years from kid to teen but stopped and now I'll be 25 this year. It will be a pain to relearn everything after so long but I just ordered this piano and it comes in Friday and I'm excited to get back to it as there's so many songs I want to learn to play now!
Congrats on taking the first step into relaunching your piano journey! The FP30X is a wonderful piano, so I know you will have an excellent musical companion to accompany you. Also, I think you'll be surprised at how much you remember. Music/songs tend to bury themselves very deep into our brains. ;)
I played a Yamaha P80 for 20 years, and I thought the key action was pretty close to the real thing. Several months ago I purchased a Roland FP-E50 which has the PHA-4 Keybed as well. WOW! What a difference! Now this feels like real thing. Really you can't do better all considered than the FP-30X.
I just ordered this piano for black friday yesterday! I've been playing a regular acoustic piano for about a year and have a semi weighted 88 key midi already. I didn't originally get a weighted for at home because I had a major traumatic injury in one of my fingers on my right hand one year ago. I severed two tendons and a nerve. This will be my first at home weighted piano. I've worked hard practicing and nursing my finger back to strength all year for this. It's coming tuesday! I'm so excited
That's awesome! Congrats on your FP30X! It is a wonderful piano and I know you will be very thrilled with it once it arrived. Best of luck on your piano journey and thanks for tuning in! :)
hi, may I ask you a question please. I am choosing piano for myself but with the idea that my kids might pick up my new hobby. I almost decided to go for roland fp 30x, but someone told me that the keys on roland will be way too hard for kids of 8 y.o . I also watched someones review in youtube who did say that after a while he has replaced roland with yamaha because he could not get used to the key actions on roland. Please tell me what do you think if keys are indeed too hard to use for kids. thx
I still play my FP30x even after having my C. Bechstein A6. FP30X is going to my corner office this November. I might upgrade the C. Bechstein to Concert 8 or Seiler SE 186; the FP 30x stays. It will always be my first piano and my first love.
That is awesome to hear! It is a great convenience to have both an excellent acoustic and digital piano on hand. Having a digital piano allows for practice 24/7 if necessary. Thanks for tuning in! :)
I recently bought an FP30X on the strength of your reviews, especially the main review you posted 2 years ago. I was surprised to find this video just now, and a bit apprehensive that it was posted because you eventually found more negatives. I was relieved to find that it wasn’t the case, and that I still made the right decision 😊
Congrats on your FP30X! It certainly still holds up as an amazing instrument with an impressive tone and touch. From a cost to value perspective, it is very tough to compete with! :)
I played a Roland 3000S Electric Piano since 1988, until I bought an FP 30x. I am over moon with this instrument. The sound and action are perfect. The speakers are good, but playing with headphones or a sound system brings this great keyboard to heights that I could not imagine from a reasonably priced keyboard. Thank you for navigating us through the waters of digital keys.
You're very welcome! Congrats on your FP30X! It is a heckuva piano. I know you will be very thrilled with what it offers musically for many years to come. :)
After watching several videos from you, about different pianos. I bought a Roland FP30X today :-).. I'm looking forward to practicing, greetings from Iceland! And thanks a lot for this Videos.
Hello, from Canada! Brent from Merriam Music here! Congrats on your FP30X! It is a wonderful instrument with a fantastic touch and tone. I am very confident you will be pleased with what it has to offer. Thanks for tuning in! We're glad the videos were helpful. :)
Hello my friend, about the keys, did you have any problems? I saw some people saying that after a while they start to make noise... Greetings from Brazil
I just got this for my 17 year old son for Christmas. He wants to learn to play the piano, so I bought an FP-10. One to two days after ordering I learned of the shortcomings (for advancement) of the FP-10. So I ordered the FP-30X. My son has a Roland TD17-KVX drum kit, which he started lessons on, and gave up after 6 months, despite showing great progress and promise. My wife decided to learn to play drums at that point. We’ve figured if he stops playing/learning, we’ll learn how to play. I had lessons when I was 8 or 9, but that was 52 years ago, and I’m determined to learn fully now. I think at the price point(s) you can’t beat the FP-10 or FP-30X.
That is awesome to hear! While the FP10 is fantastic, the FP30X is a meaningful step up. The triple pedal support in particular gives it far more longevity for learning purposes. :)
Thank you for your fantastic video reviews. I'm 58 years old and I decided to learn the piano and the Spanish classical guitar. Your reviews of the Roland FP line, were instrumental (pun intended), in my decision to purchase the FP-30X bundle package. I can't wait to start.
Haha that's awesome! Well played pun. ;) Thanks for tuning in! We're glad to hear that our videos were helpful in your decision making. Congrats on your FP30X. It is a marvellous piano with a great touch and tone. I know you will be very pleased with it. Happy playing!
First of all: I love love love your videos, Stu! Thank god I stumbled over your channel by chance! So much knowledge, competence and directions how to deal with overwhelming market conditions - thanks so much for your heartwarming analysis and playing by a dedicated musician! You helped me to decide easily considering my budget and my needs to get back into piano playing after such an extended break of 25 years without having access to a piano at all. Since yesterday I’ve got the pleasure playing again on my new Roland FP30X feeling much like my own piano back in time I learned on. At first the traditional piano setup will not just do but is lovely to recall what I considered lost and yes it’s coming back from deep inside memorized 50 years ago - after my first day on the FP30X already. So much to explore furthermore never imagined possibilities with todays “state of the art” on a digital piano. Thanks so much for your generous sharing of yours! A merry, merry Christmas to you and your family from Mexico🎄
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thank you kindly for tuning in and writing in! We sincerely appreciate it. It is awesome to hear that you have decided to jump back into playing the piano. All of the muscle memory comes back bit-by-bit. ;) We're happy to hear that you've been impressed with your amazing Roland FP30X! It is an awesome piano and is certainly an impressive offering from Roland that showcases what digital pianos can do these days. Thanks so much and Merry Christmas to you too!
Hello my friend, about the keys, did you have any problems? I saw some people complaining that after a while they start to make noise.... Greetings from Brazil
really appreciate the up - to - date reviews & everything you guys put out , always professional & keeps my interest & passion in exploring music , & it makes my days better honestly ♥ thank you guys
You're very welcome! Thanks so much for the incredibly kind words! We sincerely appreciate it. We're glad to hear that you have been finding the videos enjoyable and helpful! :)
I started learning a week ago on my kids $100 keyboard with an online app and am loving it! Just ordered the FP30x on the back of yours and other videos. Was looking at FP10 but for not much more the 30x looks the goods.
Thanks so much for this review. I bought this piano a few weeks ago and love it, but I was wondering if it is “still” a contender compared to newer keyboards. You’ve confirmed it is still a great choice. Buyers remorse is set aside, and I’m just going to enjoy my piano. Love it. If you haven’t done one, I would love a video showing how to use the Roland Piano app…well. Thanks!
Congrats on your FP30X! It is still one of the most popular choices at this price point! It really is an exceptional instrument. Thanks for tuning in and congrats on your FP30X! :)
I feel like if you like more base in the default sound without doing any digital turning the Fp30x is your go-to, especially if you like an action with more feeling when pressing down on keys. If you like more overall balance in sound and a lighter, more snappy action, I'd go with the Kawai es120. But I would also mention that the Fp30x has an integrated input sound chip, meaning it can play things like pianoteq (an amazing sounding piano engine) That can mimick a 100,000 dollar Steinway D through to the speakers of the Fp30× straight from a PC or Laptop. You would need to own an independent (audio interface) device to achieve that on any other digital piano below 1500 dollars. An audio interface can cost between 100-500 bucks depending on the quality you go with, not to mention the extra cords and setup mess.
These are all excellent points that will certainly factor into the decision making process of some players/shoppers depending on how they're looking to use their digital piano. Thanks for tuning in and sharing your insights! We appreciate it. :)
I purchased a FP30X about two years ago out then moved house so it remained in the box. I’ve now moved again so have the room to set it up. This is my first piano and I’m a beginner so a little overkill I know. I wouldn’t have pushed myself to learn if it wasn’t for this channel, it’s something I’ve always wanted to do. Thank you so much! 🙏🏽
I'd say you've made a good choice. This will suit a beginner or pre-intermediate piano student very well. If you're into anything other than classical music, the extra sounds and effects can be useful too. Enjoy becoming a pianist!
Hi! Brent here! We're glad that Stu's review was helpful! Congrats on your FP30X! They are awesome pianos. I know you will be very happy with what it has to offer!
@@TheLooking4sunset absolutely. Still like to play every day. I can play one song by now, but I struggle to free up some time to study a new piece really. Eventually that will change someday.
Thank you so much Stu! I love your playing and your reviews are concise and complete! I would be making my purchases there except I live in California and I need a local dealer. God bless you and I pray you have a wonderful joyful time of worship at Christmas!
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! We appreciate the sentiment. :) Thank you for the well wishes! Wishing you and yours the same during the holiday season! :)
I originally had an FP10 and just upgraded to this. I appreciate the simplicity, great sound, and feel of these. When I want to get crazy, I connect it to my computer and run UVI Falcon!
That is awesome to hear! Congrats on your FP30X upgrade! It has a much nicer sonic experience and more functionality than the FP10. I think you will be very pleased with it! :)
2 years ago when I made a lot of research to find my first piano I found this channel. Your recommendation on the FP-30X was very convincing so I bought a full set (piano, stand, 3 pedal, stool and headphones). I absolutely did not regret my choice. I still love playing on this. Though since then my hearing developed a lot and I started feeling that the stock piano sounds are not satisfying for me anymore, so I bought the Modartt Pianoteq 8 with a Steinway D instrument pack and since then I’m in heaven. So thank you very much Stu and all of the team for maintaining this wonderful channel by creating informative, interesting, straight to the point, enjoyable and honest reviews. Everytime I watch one of your new videos I immediately start feeling the urge to play the piano. :) Greetings from Hungary!
Hi! Brent here! Thank you so much for writing in! That is awesome to hear! The FP30X still holds up as a wonderful piano and, as you've discovered, it even doubles as an excellent MIDI controller. :) Thanks again and happy playing!
Personally changed to a Kawai ES110 because I felt the 30X action was "too heavy" for my taste, the Kawai also came with a better pedal. I definitely want to upgrade in the future though to something more realistic. It's just that digital pianos get so expensive if you want something better than decent :D
I bought the original FP-30 over 4 years ago and never regretted it for a second (once I realised you can get a reasonable recording off the headphone socket, mitigating the lack of line outs). I’m considering an upgrade at the moment and like the P525. I’m looking forward to Stu’s review as I suspect the action will be more to his taste than the 515’s. To me, it’s not a million miles from the PHA-50 in feel, just with less cushioning at the bottom of the key travel. Thanks for all the videos - you’re my go-to channel for piano reviews.
You're very welcome! Thank you for supporting the channel! I'm happy to hear that you're still loving the FP30. It is a great piano! Best of luck in your search for the next instrument. :)
How can you tell whether an FP-30X is one with the updated grease? Is there a way to tell at all (preferably from the box), like manufacture date, serial number etc?
I don't believe there is a way to tell. Naturally, the change would have been implemented beyond a certain batch meaning that more recent serial numbers are more likely to have the changes made.
I had a change in living circumstances recently and was considering this piano to replace my HP702, but I bought a FP60X which I think is an amazing instrument and well worth the extra £300 or so. I don't know why but certainly in the UK Roland pianos are far more value for money than Yamaha. I do hope Roland doesn't go down the line of Yamaha and Casio in shrinking the size of future pianos at the expense of lighter action. Also when trying the Casio PXS pianos on a X frame stand, they were either too low or too high due to the small case. Size is not always everything!
Congrats on your FP60X! It is a wonderful piano with an amazing touch and tone. The speaker system also helps enhance the sonic experience! It is hard to argue with the notion that the Roland pianos offer incredible value given their associated price points. They are truly impressive digital instruments! :)
I originally bought this piano after some research a few months back so my daughter can take lessons at home; she didn't want to go somewhere to learn (she's 8yo). She unfortunately quit a month in and I ended up taking lessons instead. Really enjoying it, although, I don't really have experience with other pianos, so I can't say how much better it feels. lol
I am glad to hear that you are still getting use out of the piano! The FP30X is a remarkable instrument, especially for its price point. Best of luck with your piano journey! :)
Did they redesign the action for 2023? On mine, the hammers are in the front of the action. In the video at 2:09, I see an action that looks entirely different with the hammers in the back. I have a Roland FP-30X bought in 2022 that I have had apart several times now to re-grease the cups on some of the hammers for the black keys to keep the keys from clunking when you release them. There is a paddle on the bottom of the plastic key that wipes through grease in a rectangular plastic cup on top of the hammer. The viscosity of the grease seems to dampen the action enough to stop the clunking. That interface between key and hammer also implements the escapement. I have become good at fixing my clunking keys through repetition, having to do it every couple of months. Eventually the grease gets squeezed out of the cup. I love the feel of the action, but I don't like the frequent maintenance.
I believe the action featured in that slide is a different version of the PHA4. There were several different versions of the PHA4, but the one used in the FP10, FP30X, and FP60X models were the PHA4 Standard action, which is not what is featured in that slide. I believe the issue was that Roland never released action displays nor a side cutout of the PHA4 action. Sorry for the confusion!
@@MerriamPianos Thanks for the explanation. That seems like too big of a difference to me to be a variant of the same thing? In any case, suffice it to say that the PHA-4 standard action is quite good. At least from the perspective of my less than advanced skills. But if one was to read around the Internet, I am not the only one with keys that clunk and bounce on release. The are annoying even wearing headphones because of the bouncing. Mine showed up after about a year of perhaps an average of an hour a day of playing. They are relatively easily [temporarily?] fixed by opening the case, removing the offending keys, and re-greasing the cups underneath. I remove the existing grease [only in the cups] and replace it with MolyKote 111 grease, which is a silicone-based plastic-safe food-grade grease. I believe that it is thicker (more viscous) than the pink stuff that Roland originally used (at least in my older FP-30X), but seems to perform well. It is probably the grease in this cup that Roland discovered slid out when the pianos were stored vertically during the COVID days? Thanks again for the reply, and for all the great reviews!
@@m3rc743 And, unfortunately, replacing the grease is only a short-term fix. As you said, on some keys, it only lasts for a few days. On others it seems to be longer duration. For me, the two big offenders are C#3 and F#3. When it's not clunking and bouncing, the action is really good. I live with it for a while, and then open it back up and re-grease. I will also be looking elsewhere for my next purchase.
@@romarsh2298 A shame too. I love the heavy action. Anyway, which one were you eyeing for? Curious to know. I've been looking at the Yamaha p225, so far i haven't heard any major issues unlike the roland
6:17 the sound you have from the direct line-out…is that the factory tone/settings? I have this model and have a darker, muddier sound no only via the speakers, but from line-out through Yamaha monitors that cost more than the keyboard itself. I can get clearer tones with the app, but im curious what your go to settings are?
Hi there! We do not do any post-processing or adjustments of the core sound when demonstrating the piano sounds these instruments offer. The sound would have been taken from a direct line-out feed into an audio interface.
I bought a Roland Fp 30x last May and have had no regrets.What sold me was the action which is perfection...so responsive.Secondly the included audio interface which is such an excellent feature.You can now simply use it to record the audio from your computer into a laptop from the usb without using any audio aux in/out cables .This eliminates alot of external clutter cables....And as a plus you can now playback any audio you want from your laptop thru the Roland speakers via the internal usb audio interface.Good external audio interfaces are at least 75 dollars and the sky is the limit.So this eliminates the need to purchases one. Lastly this keyboard makes for an excellent midi controller due to the triple sensor keyboard.So you can enjoy all your VST's too. You get all this and it doesnt break the bank.Its a great piano for beginner intermediate and advanced acoustic piano players who want to try transitioning to a digital piano without spending a fortune. Some may compain about the lack of LCD display but for my part it was not a factor to considers .It may be for others. I havent used the app much but when i did I found connectivity was easy to set up and the the app has many features to explore should you so wish to try.
Absolutely! It is a truly impressive instrument given its attractive and affordable price point. Roland really knocked things out of the park with the FP30X. While the lack of an LCD display will be a sore spot for some users, the user interface is still quite comfortable and easy to navigate.
After trying with three different iOS devices, I finally managed to make a Bluetooth connection to the FP-30x today (the Roland instructions are, to say the least, misleading and opaque). Now with the Piano Designer app the virtual lid on the piano can be opened and massively improves on the default sounds. Roland needs to clarify the instructions on its site and in the manual. But the sound improvement is a complete revelation.
Thanks for the note! I know what you mean. Sometimes, the instructions for Bluetooth connectivity can be a bit tricky to follow. With that said, I'm glad you figured things out and have been able to extract all of the amazing customization functions that the app offers. :)
Another great review as always. I wonder if you could do a short video on the hardware, cabling etc. you use to record the audio for your reviews (apologies' if you have already done such a video) 👍
Thanks so much! We will do our best to tackle that for you. Generally, the setup is pretty straight forward: 1/4" cables from the line or headphone outs into a Focusrite Scarlett audio interface, which connects to a device/DAW to capture the audio.
@@MerriamPianos Hi Brent, you guys doing a great job. I've upgraded my 10-years-old FP4 to F30X recently. Your reviews were helpful (I have a few Rolands in the class so I could compare too). I like the polyphony, and the keybed feel. Love the weight of the keys, feels good for practicing, performing and as a weighted Midi keys. A nice deal for this price range. Keep going! Your reviews are informative, highly professional and greatly represented ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Got delivery of my fp30x today... don't know why but really like textured ivory colour of the keys so don't think I will go back to white gloss piano keys. All the reviews I have seen about 30x are accurate... the sound is great so will keep me practicing.
Congratulations on your FP30X! We're really happy to hear that you've been enjoying it so far. The PHA4 action is excellent - both in terms of texture and weighting. Enjoy your new piano and thanks for tuning in! :)
Totally agree, the FP30X is king in the price range. I've got this for a friend and is very enjoyable to play. The action is amazing and the default piano sound is great. Really the only things I don't like is the way the volume control works (the buttons are annoying) and the looks are not exactly to my taste. But that's very minor annoyance. I have not tried the GHS compact action from Yamaha yet, but it is probably still not as good as PHA4.
Those are certainly some fair criticisms, but, as you mentioned, it is very difficult to argue with the musical experience it offers. The PHA4 action and SuperNATURAL piano sound combination is exceptional! :)
I tried boath the PHA4 and GHS, and to me the GHS is a lot beter in terms of dynamic responce. The PHA4 though having triple sensors struggels in soft playing, and the notes can drop louder than expected. This is not a problem with the GHS. The instruments I tried these actions on are the Roland RP701, Roland HP702, Yamaha P125, Yamaha YDP145, Yamaha P125A, and the Yamaha DGX670. Disclaimer I did not try these instruments all at the same time/same places. I did giv some benifit of doudt when I tried it on the RP701, however when I tried it on the HP702 about almost a year later I confirmed that this action isn't for me, though I am willing to play on one when needed. Definitely try them out first and see if they're for you🎹🎶
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 I always had this love and hate relationship with PHA-4. Hate, because of noise. Love, because of escapement that I like and also a certain feel that I prefer over GHS. Michael Ps. It is almost impossible to respond and edit the responses because of your name. Try it to see what the issue is.
@@mfurman is it because it's too long? Haha I was told by another commenter in a piano livestreem before they said I had a long name so I really showed them what long truelly is🎹🎶
Stuu no coincidence that I bought the fp30x 2 days ago! Your videos with the fp30x made me get in love with the tones and the action! Thank you so much for your effortss!
I took piano lessons for 10 years while growing up. I haven't played in years but have the time now and just started looking at digital pianos. I was focused on Yamahas (125, 225?) until I started watching your videos on the Roland FP30X. Almost ready to purchase this until I started reading the comments. Stu's sound is incredible, and I would be very happy with it. Now I see comments about the sound being muddy, black keys sticking, required maintenance with the grease, etc and feel like I'm back to square one. Unfortunately, there are no music stores within an hour of me and even the ones I would drive to have very limited instruments to try. Anyone else in a similar situation and have you made a decision? I do have access to a Yamaha P 115 and wondering if that would be representative of the sound and feel to a 125 or 225?
Hi! Brent here! The FP30X is a wonderful instrument with one of the most authentic feeling actions in this price category. There was a batch of units that had some grease/lubrication issues, but that has since been resolved. And, it is important to note that Roland resolved all of those units without any cost to the customer. I would also recommend checking out the Kawai ES120 model. It is a similar price point and has a wonderful touch/tone. Personally, I favour it over the P125 and P225 models, which I find to be a bit thin sounding. But, it all comes down to a matter of personal preference of course. :)
There are additional sounds available through the Roland Piano App for the FP30X. That seems to be a trend that more companies are gravitating towards (additional sounds/features via app connectivity).
If you're not sure whether you'll like the PHA-4 action, buy the FP10 and use headphones to get basically the same performance as you would with the FP30X.
It is not exactly the case. I checked PHA-4 action in FP-10, FP-30X (I had both pianos in the past but rented them to check again) and RD-88. All actions measured slightly differently and felt differently as well. The best was the action in RD-88 Michael
@@MerriamPianos Or those who do not need hundreds of tones, rhythms etc and just want to have a relatively good MIDI controller for piano VSTs they have. It is a source of frustration for me that I cannot get a very good piano action without paying for features that are completely useless for me. I want digital piano with one or two very good acoustic piano sounds and nothing else (definitely not microphone inputs, effects etc). Such digital piano or MIDI controller does not exist (with the exception of Kawai VPC1 that is more than 10 years old). Digital piano manufactures just cater to those who perform or love to "have fun" Michael
I originally bought the FP10 and can say for the price point you won't find a better digital piano. Loved the sound and feel, just got a bit frustrated with the user interface or lack of. I bought it just to use as a midi controller but ended up loving it as a piano. Ended up also getting the FP60X as I love the supernatural pianos but needed a better UX. The FP10 is in my studio as a 88 note controller and digital piano, the 60X in our lounge just for fun, entertainment and enjoyment!
@@midinotesI just added a Roland FP60X to my collection. Now I have a Kawai GL10 baby grand in the family room, a Yamaha P515, CasioGP510 and the Roland FP60X
Hi Brent, I just experienced the Roland's keys today and you were absolutely spot on, Roland seems better. I have experienced FP 10, FP 30X and Yamaha P225. Where FP 30X and Yamaha P225 is similar price point. Now getting confused about which one to pick 30X or P225. Any opinion ?
Hi! Brent here! That is awesome to hear. I'm glad you had a chance to try them out in person. The PHA4 action used on the FP10 and FP30X is quite excellent. It comes down to a matter of preference, but, for me, the FP30X is the clear favourite. In my opinion, the FP30X offers a more authentic tone and touch compared to the P225.
@@MerriamPianos Thanks a lot, your videos were really helpful in understanding different tech terms and finding one piano within my budget. You just got a new fan of your videos :)
After playing on a Roland digital piano, listening to this Steinway D over and over, comparing to P121 (which I first wanted but after comparing the tone in pianissimo and fortissimo), I've come to the conclusion that the FP30x will the best choice. Already got a Juno DS76, plan to upgrade to an FA07 (because of the keybed), will get an FP30x, been kindly looking at the VR730 and Gaia 2. I try to get away from Roland but their keyboards are so easy to use, have a fair price to their purposes and we get along so well 😂❤
It is hard to argue with the sentiment that Roland make excellent pianos with fantastic cost-to-value ratios. I am confident that you will be beyond thrilled with what the FP30X has to offer musically. :)
Thanks so much! I am not really sure what you mean by the sustain function without the pedal. In order to toggle the sustain on and off, you will require a sustain pedal (the DP2, DP10, RPU3, or KSC70 in this case).
@@MerriamPianos Thank you for your reply! One of the first electrical keyboards I bought didn't have a pedal nor could you buy one for it, so it had the sustain function by activating it ( I would press Function + Voice and sustain would activate), and you would basically have sustain on every note, wich is quite horrible but good in a sense for a beginner with no other options. I was wondering if the fp30x has the same function.
I really enjoy your thorough reviews. I bought an FP-30 six years ago to start learning piano. I really enjoyed it. A few months back there was a super deal on the FP-30X from a US dealer with a rebate from Roland. I sold my FP30 for nearly what I paid and got the FP-30X for almost no difference. I find the FP-30X to be a huge improvement over the earlier model. On the The FP-30, the piano sound was about the only good sound. The FP-30X has more great stereo sounds. The good thing about a digial piano is when I get bored with piano I can experiment with other sounds. I also use it as a MIDI controller with free or inexpensive VSTs on my computer.
That's awesome! The FP30X certainly has a more refined sonic experience, which can be attributed to the improvements to the speaker system of course. But, with that said, the FP30 still holds up as a wonderful instrument too. :)
Stu & community: the top octave of the FP30X sustains beginning on G6 and there is no way to defeat it. The Roland Piano Designer offers no solution. It's present on all of the acoustic piano settings but not on the other instruments. Too bad it isn't at least gradual. To hear this, set global ambience to 0, play staccato from F6 to G6, it's very abrupt. I saw this comment on the Roland site but the Roland response didn't address the issue. If this is a software bug, hopefully they can resolve it in an update. Perhaps others in the discussion have brought this up. Thank you for any info, and appreciate your excellent reviews!
Following up... understandably an acoustic does not have dampers across the top 18 keys, just wish there was a software approach to adjusting the amount. Thanks if anyone found a solution. I guess always leave on some ambience and it will smooth out. 🤗👍
@DrewTretick So for better or worse, you've nailed it - what you’re noticing is the result of Roland (and this would be the same of most Roland/Kawai/Yamaha digital pianos) simulating an acoustic piano and all its various Idiosyncrasies - in this case the top octave and a half having no dampers. The difference on a real piano is as sudden as what you're noticing, so just like simulating let-off or the 'thump' of the damper pedal, the philosophy here is "replicate / simulate", rather than "improve / evolve." I think you're thought of just turning the ambience up a little is a good one, and over time you'll likely get used to that change and even subconsciously adapt your playing around it. Enjoy! - stu
@@MerriamPianos @MerriamPianos Stu, thank you so much for making time for your most thoughtful and helpful reply! Interesting that the manufacturers are baking in that feature without user access. I imagine that tweak in a DAW piano may be available for secco notes G6 and above. Again, thank you so much and always looking forward to your next videos and absolutely gorgeous improvisations!! 🤗🎹✨
The real question for me now is what to choose. FP30x seems like a perfect choise, but there is also RP107. Which basically costs the same as FP30X with triple pedal and frame stand.
They are quite similar as you've pointed out! The decision ultimately comes down to the preferred form factor (portable versus console). The other thing to mention is the control panel. The FP30X has features more readily available, whereas the RP107 is a bit more reliant on app connectivity to access certain features.
Hi there! Brent from Merriam Music here! I would personally gravitate towards the Roland FP30X for classical playing, due to the heavier touch of the PHA4 action. :)
I got some questions I hope to get answers to or from someone who is honest about the digital piano 30x and 60x and the Roland every day piano app, please have a look and to you or anyone else here on this great channel, if you can help me out it would be worth a lot as I do not feel confident the 60X for 1300 euro with he table stand is the right choice for me... thanks ### 1. *Sound Comparison: FP-60X vs. FP-30X* - *Are the sounds on the FP-60X and the FP-30X the same as in the app?* - I’m curious if the sounds available directly on the FP-60X and FP-30X are the same as those accessible through the Roland app. Are the sounds on the piano’s physical interface and those in the app identical, or are they different? ### 2. *Fender Rhodes Sounds* - *FP-60X Rhodes Sounds:* - I’m particularly interested in the Rhodes sounds, specifically those from the 1970s. On the FP-60X display, I noticed the "Suitcase 1976" Rhodes sound, but I’m wondering if there are more Rhodes sounds available-either on the FP-60X itself or through the app. Can I find any additional, more authentic Fender Rhodes sounds from the 1970s? - *FP-30X Comparison:* - Is the FP-30X limited in terms of sound variety compared to the FP-60X? Is the main difference just that on the FP-30X, I’d need to use the app to access the same sounds that are available directly on the FP-60X’s physical interface? ### 3. *Customizing Sounds* - *Customization of Rhodes Sounds:* - I love vintage 1970s sounds and enjoy tweaking and customizing them. I found the "Suitcase 1976" on the FP-60X, but I’d like to know if I can further customize it or if there are additional similar sounds that can be modified to my preference. Is the app the key to unlocking more customization options, or am I limited to what’s on the digital piano itself? ### 4. *Sound Variety and Professional Quality* - *Sound Limitations on FP-60X:* - My concern is that the FP-60X seemed limited in terms of professional sounds, especially when I noticed a lot of novelty sounds like drums, rain, laughter, and applause, which I find unnecessary for a digital piano in this price range. I’m looking for more serious, professional sounds, particularly from the 1970s. - *Are there more professional sounds available through the app, or is the FP-60X limited to what’s on the physical display?* ### 5. *Price and Value* - *Is the FP-60X worth the investment?* - The store near me is offering the FP-60X with a table stand for a bit over 1300 euros. Given my concerns about the sound limitations, is this a good deal, or should I consider looking for a different digital piano that better meets my needs? ### 6. *App Functionality vs. Physical Interface* - *Is the app a totally different universe?* - If the app offers a lot more in terms of sound variety and customization, I’d like a clear explanation of how it works in conjunction with the FP-60X or FP-30X. Does it significantly expand the functionality of the physical keyboard, and is it user-friendly enough to justify relying on it for accessing more professional sounds? ### Conclusion: - *Your Advice:* - Based on these concerns, would you advise sticking with the FP-60X, or should I consider a different model or brand that might offer more of the professional 1970s sounds I’m looking for? Your expert opinion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your help in clarifying these points!
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for the questions. I will do my best to answer them: 1. The extended FP30X tones on the app are not the exact same as those on the FP60X. The FP60X has a more extensive tone list onboard than even the FP30X via the app. I believe there is a combination of some overlapping patches and some that are unique to the FP60X. 2. The FP60X certainly has a more extensive offering of onboard sounds. While there are basic e.piano sounds on the FP30X, you would have to use the app if you want more extensive options. There are two primary Rhodes sounds on the FP60X. Personally, I find them to be excellent patches that do a good job of emulating the classic Rhodes sound. You can see the full tone list for the FP60X on page 31 of its user manual. 3. There are some parameters that are adjustable (particularly in terms of effects), but the level of customization is not as extensive as the core piano sounds. I believe the adjustments that can be made on the Roland Piano App are the same as those available onboard the FP60X. 4. The FP60X is limited to whats onboard the piano. Naturally, you could extend your sonic palette through VST plugins. But, any MIDI compatible digital piano would be able to be used in conjunction with VST plugins. In terms of whether the FP60X's tones are "professional" sounding. That is a matter of subjectivity of course. Every player must make that decision for themselves. 5. Once again, this is a determination that every player/consumer will have to make for themselves. Value is a very subjective matter. In my personal opinion, I think the FP60X offers a ton of value for its price point. 6. The Roland Piano App helps expand the functionality of the FP30X, but it doesn't really have the same impact on the FP60X given that the FP60X's onboard system is quite extensive on its own. You can download the Roland Piano App for free and scan through the layout and parameters that can be accessed to get a better idea of what it has to offer. Conclusion: Personally, I think the Roland FP60X is an excellent option if you're looking for a digital piano with both great acoustic sounds and e. piano sounds. Again, it really comes down to personal preference and subjectivity. My recommendation would be to test out the FP60X in person if possible. That is the best way to determine whether the musical experience it offers satisfies your ears. In my opinion, Roland has arguably the best and most extensive offering of non-piano sounds on the market. I think their e.piano and organ sounds in particular are exceptional. Thanks and hope this helps!
@@MerriamPianos thanks I got to test both the 30x and the 60x now in a store… I am a beginner to playing the piano… I can improvise on a piano and understand that basics… but not sit and song after song for others… I wanted an instrument to better learn to memorize melodies as a singer primarily and then I felt I also like to learn a nee instrument ones I began to visit the music stores here.. I used to play drums from 6-18 so it was a nostalgic feeling to sit down by drum kits once again in life… but for learning to sing better and focus on melodies I am really not sure what instrument to get into, both the wood flutes that have 5-8 holes and a chromatic harmonica are cheaper and easier to carry with me, and perhaps can improve learning melodies of famous soul, jazz and pop songs on while improving my breathing and understanding for creating melodies by those instruments… but I can of course not sing at the same time as I use them… the kalimba maybe is best choice if one only wanna learn melodies by ear!? I felt quite overwhelmed by the Roland 30/60X pianos as they are so large and heavy and that ones one sit down starting to work on something a real piano feels like I maybe will struggle more to learn the piano than having an instrument to support me to better learn music and support me better to memorize melodies so that I can sing songs more fluently with no need for a backing track to listen to any other singers singing the songs I try to learn by heart… I already got a good understanding for breathing and making sounds as a trained actor from a conservatory for acting at NYU Tish school of the arts, but I lack in understanding music theory and singing a Capella, memorizing melodies on my own… I realized this while singing in a choirs that I rely on those close around me to find the pitch and where to start and then I am good at following along and at that point I got no issues what so ever to follow along with perfect pitch and a strong voice and making vibrato, belting or what not ones someone sings with me and kind of leads me through the song… but ones there is a singing class and a teacher asks me to sing to her accompaniment on the piano where she is not playing the melody for me I am totally lost and feel so embarrassed and stupid I cannot find back to the first tone even on my own, but if she sings with me I can suddenly easily follow along… So, I need yo break through here so I am learning to memorize melodies like everyone else in the school… Is ironic that when we do warm ups and sound training of all sorts where you imitate the sounds the teacher makes going up and down in every scale and try everythingfrom fry, belting, vibratos, head voice and so on I am always the one that can do it immediately and the teacher asks if I have had a lot of voice training abd other students say, wow, your vibrato is amazing when you sing… but it comes naturalky for me to feel how to place all sounds but I am the only one in school that struggle so much to memorize a melody!! It makes me feel like I am crazy compared to others… so I felt maybe I must start with music theory and an instrument to learn more than other bed toto learn to memorize melodies and sing a Capella as I struggled like this for years now… but a full size piano with a table at home for 1300 dollars felt like I got overwhelmed as I am not a pianist but just want to learn to sing freely any song someone asks me to or I feel I really wanna learn to sing on my own without anyone beside me kind of babysit me getting through the melodies… I got no issues memorizing my lines or others lines when we are acting out our plays… but singing with a flow not braking the melodies… wow.. I am the dumbest ib tue room and feel so ashamed and stressed by now when it is my time to sing my chosen song and I can see the teacher by the piano is like watching me, oh nooo, not that student again 🙅♀️… So that is my case… I live the sounds of the rhodes and the suitcase and melancholic sounds… I can sit on my own for very long just making such improvised “songs” on a piano ones I find that rhodes sound.. then I get into a zone for me I love… so is why I was asking so much about that… Todqy I just saw something called Yamaha Reface CP… but those keys were not weighted at all… so very snappy but the keyboard sounds were really nice from that aspect… so not sure if I shoukd dare to get a real piano at home like the Roland 30x or 60x … maybe is a good deal for 1300 with the fulk table support, no extra three pedals though… But I do not think I will have any need for those at this point anyways… Or just get the Yamaha Reface CP to focus on simple melodies and imitate them or even a more advanced chromatic kalimba like 24 keys to have in my hands while trying to imitate the melodies and learn them on the kalimba as well… I see Roland also got a singing device tool to help singers to learn better.. bot sure if you tasted this and if you think is worth it or just a plastic gimmick? Is this one: www.roland.com/us/products/vt-12/ A vocal trainer that can hear two peopoe or ohe person and an instrument at the same time and show you when you are at the right pitch and tone and some drills and songs pre-recorded for learning to sing better… have you tested this ever and what is your opinion of this kind of device for someone like me with my aspirations to learn to sing a Capella? I feel like I am a bit lost in the best way to get started and believe I can develop in such an endeavor and call to learn to sing a capella after years of struggling on my own to learn melodies… but as said, pianos are kind of new to me andI do not have such training and my goal is to learn to sing freely with no need to have a support from anyone else… That is my dream! Ok, thanks a lot for getting back to me! Means a lot to hear someone who maybe can understand my particular situation and see what is the best way to go about it without making it too complex for myself to get there so to speak… Thanks, Chris
I just got the Roland FP-30X and played some exercises on it for the first time. My impression of it corresponds to my motive for getting it in the first place. If you are someone whose goal is to move on to an acoustic piano when you are able to do so financially and you are living in a place where you can have an acoustic piano, then the Roland is what you want at an entry-level price. I have to say, I think the tone is a little weak but maybe I haven't tweaked it yet. For another thing, played through headphones or through an amplifier and speaker system, the tone might come across a little better. I was disappointed in the other voices also, but then you might need to tweak the settings or layer tones to get the best results. People need to understand, digital keyboards are not imitations of something else but instruments of their own accord. Which one is best at any certain price level depends on what your purpose is. But the same is true also for every type of acoustic instrument. If you want to go on to perform in front of audiences using a digital instrument, you need to get an instrument suited to your purposes. If you want to move on to an acoustic instrument, you also need to get the instrument with the keyboard action that most closely emulates the instrument you want to play be that piano, organ, harpsichord or whatever. Am I saying that keyboard action is the first consideration? Yes, I think I am. The other thing that occurs to me is that if you want better sound, then you need to get external speakers. If you are playing only at home, you might not need the most powerful but getting the best quality is important. For another thing, if you are at home practicing with your keyboard, you will not be outside the house spending money. Your keyboard, speakers and headphones might pay for themselves in not too long. That's something to think about too. Being at home culturally improving yourself instead being outside spending money.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for writing in and sharing your insights! Congrats on your FP30X! It is a fantastic choice and certainly one of the most authentic touches you will find in the price category. While the speakers are not the most powerful, as you've stated, there are plenty of options out there to enhance the speaker system with external speakers/amps. Thanks again and enjoy your new piano! :)
@@MerriamPianos The FP-30X sounds more authentic at higher volume, I have learned. My idea is that one does not need to get a powerful speaker system just for practicing and playing at home. The important thing is to get high quality and faithful reproduction of the sounds the keyboard processor is generating. I want to go back to the idea that each instrument has its purposes. Anyone who intends to buy a keyboard needs to research what product best suits their purposes at the price they can afford. I was fortunate that a music store which sells at online prices had a local branch. I was able to go in and at least assess the keyboard action, and then ultimately buy what I wanted at a discount price.
Another great review. I have watched so many of these. I have a question. I know you can alter the tuning. But my question for anyone who may have this is, if you change the tuning does it save? Or do you have to adjust it from 440 every time you turn the piano on. I live in an area where A is mainly 443.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in! I'm not at a showroom currently to test it out myself, but I believe the master tuning adjustments are stored when you save the settings. Perhaps, one of our helpful community members here can verify that. :)
Hello Stu and thanks for yet another great review! I just want your recommendation iydm. Im literally torn between kawai Es120 and Roland fp30x. Im a complete beginner and wanted to learn piano for a long time now, specifically classical pieces. And i saw a lot of good reviews with the ES120 especially on its sound quality, but in terms of action, a lot of people lean on the FP30x than the ES120. In your opinion, for a complete beginner getting into the classical music, is it better to get ES120 with it sound quality or the FP30x with its better action for pianos within its price range? Thanks for the reply.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for tuning in! At the end of the day, it really comes down to a matter of personal preference. I tend to favour the ES120 in terms of sound, but the FP30X in terms of action. For me, if you're venturing into serious classical playing, the action should be the priority. It is also the invariable element. You can access different piano sounds via VSTs and you can always get more speaker power through PAs or keyboard amps. The action on the other hand is something that cannot be changed in the process. Thanks again for the question and hope this helps a bit! :)
@@MerriamPianos This was a choice I hadn't considered before. I was inclined to the better Casio stage piano or perhaps to Yamaha DGX-660 with many more sounds and an arranger function, but my priority was the good piano feel (action) that my daughter would benefit from when continuing to learn piano. Therefore DGX-660 lost at the start, as it used a really unconvincing, outdated keyboard. I went to a couple of stores, playing on various Yamahas, Kawais and Casios and Korgs, I also watched a number of videos. Including Stu's reviews which I found very informative, in-depth, and also a pleasure to listen to, musically. [btw, I was shocked to see on YT how many very mediocre keyboard players actually dare to present their "skills" and comment on the key action... although, frankly, I am not a better player and still easily feel the difference ;-) ] Then I eliminated Casio (reluctantly, but it felt quite far from the piano action, under my fingers) and watched more Stu's videos. Eventually I also sampled Roland FP-10 and FP-30x - and took my daughter with me so that she also could have a chance to compare ... Actually we seemed to love Yamaha P515 the most, also for its sound. But Roland came damn close, and they incidentally had a good discount on it right on time ;-) which made for a HUGE price difference to P515. So I bought FP30x and never looked back. Well, actually I miss Bosendorfer sound from P515... but that's just me. At that time my daughter had some learning crisis, something that happens to many piano students every couple of years. Recurrent slow-progress eras. Amidst this crisis she was complaining that her piano is far from the real grand piano she has an occasional access to (which I fully agreed with) and the piano is to blame (not quite convincing). However, upgrading the instrument might have helped her to overcome this crisis, and - while not a fast learner and hard-working student - she is making nice progress since then and recently started playing some cool stuff with visible satisfaction and for her own pleasure. And this counts the most! For amateur musicians, FP30x is probably more than they may ever need, especially when used with computer/tablet, Roland apps and external tone bank (and DAW, if you're into that). One of my complains is the very limited number of buttons, which makes controlling the device less straightforward and less stage-friendly. I am also not a fan of its look, but that's purely subjective.... This is not to say that other instruments are no better. If I get extra money, I may consider switching to E920 or its current incarnation, P525 or maybe the future DGX680 or whatever, if this gets a good keyboard. The other complain is the lack of aftertouch (useful for controlling certain tone generators/ sound banks), but I am not aware of an instrument that would combine both excellent piano action and an aftertouch in this price range - or have I missed something? I am not sure I would really use it, though. As time has shown, I can live happily with all these 'shortcomings'. No better piano will make me a better pianist - only practice will. FP30x is not limiting me in any way.
Very good review, but now I'm wondering if it's worth this FP 30x or the RP107, as much as I look for comparisons I can't find anything. I need some help. Thank you :)
Thanks so much! They are quite comparable in terms of specs (i.e. same action, same tone engine, similar speaker power, etc.). With that said, the decision comes down to form factor. If you need portability, the FP30X is the obvious choice. The FP30X also has more feature accessibility on board because of its control interface. The RP107 is designed to be an at-home digital piano.
Hello At first i want to say sorry for my english, but i have question about FP30X, did they still have issues with F keys and loud clicking etc? Im little afraid.. I hope you understand me and answer my question, best regards.
Hi! Brent here! I am no sure what you mean by "F" keys. With that said, in terms of the clicking, Roland has implement the use of a new grease that resolves this issue. :)
@@MerriamPianos Sorry for the incomprehensible comment, if you type "Roland Fp30x problem" on RUclips you will see what I mean, thank you for your answer
The Roland KC series keyboard amps are awesome! They do a magnificent job of bringing the best out of virtually any digital piano sonically, including the FP30X.
Nice review, I'm looking at a used one of these to gig with on bottom for acoustic and electric pianos, while using a VR09 on top for organs. Would this be loud enough in a full rock band running through a PA?
Thank you kindly! The onboard speakers are likely not loud enough to compete with a full rock band through a PA. However, you could take the headphone output and also run the FP30X through a PA system for more volume. :)
Ciaooo Stu!!! Complimenti per le tue recensioni sempre precise e dettagliate!! Volevo chiederti un consiglio a me serviva uno stage piano al quale si possa collegare un microfono con un amplificazione sufficiente per piccoli eventi. Sono indeciso tra il Roland fp90x, il dexibell s7pro M, o il casio px 6000. Quale mi consigli? Un saluto dalla Sicilia
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for the kind words and question! The FP90X is a fantastic option, but it is a bit on the larger side. If the size of that unit is not an issue, it is a formidable instrument with all of the features and performance you would need for live applications. If size/weight is a concern, the PXS6000 offers incredible portability. The action plays a bit lighter, but the form and portability factor make it a really appealing gigging option. :)
Hey there, amazing review! I am split between the fp-30x and the newer f-107. I can buy the fp30x with its stand and pedals for about the same price of the f107, and it looks like the fp30x has a higher speaker wattage, and it is compatible with Roland's Piano Designer. What is your saying on this? Thank you!
Hi! Brent here! Thank you so much for the kind words! We're glad you liked the review. There are a lot of similarities between these two options of course, but if you don't mind the portable piano aesthetic of the FP30X, I believe it is the more feature rich and sonically superior option. :)
Hi! Brent here! The FP30X and FP-E50 both use the exact same PHA4 action. In terms of the debate between the Ivory Feel-G and the PHA4 action, it all comes down to subjectivity. Personally, I prefer the feel of the PHA4, but I wouldn't say that it is by a huge margin by any means. They're both quite rewarding to play!
Hi. I have a Roland fp30x and with the factory pedal the dp2, it works perfectly when using piano sounds. But when I want to use piano + String, using the dual function, when I use the sustain pedal the String sound notes become very long and they mixed together and the performance doesn't sound good. How can I correct this?
Hi! Thanks for the question! Unfortunately, there is no real way to adjust this other than changing the blend volume and experimenting with different string patches that have less prominent sustain.
@@MerriamPianos but I tried the dual mode sound Piano + String in the Yamaha p125 / p225 and you dont have this problem with the string sound when you pres the pedal
Hello, I just entered the digital piano market, thank you very much for the videos. I wanted to ask, do you consider the Roland Go: 88p a good option? . Here in Mexico, the Roland Go 88p to the Roland FP30x is usually double the price. And I wanted to know if it is worth saving a little more and making the expense or is it a good option to start. thank you for the videos
Hi there! You're very welcome! The Roland GO88 is a nice travel companion, but the PHA4 action of the FP10 and FP30X provides a far superior touch that would be more appropriate for serious piano studying/practice. :)
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Wireless Bluetooth headphones are not viable options for use with digital pianos. This is the case with all digital pianos (not just the FP30X). For this reason, wired headphones are still required. Thanks and hope this helps! :)
Hi! I am trying to find how to use this keyboard as a midi controller while at the same time have it as the audio output of my DAW and simultaneously not hear the internal sounds of the keyboard. Right now when I am playing a VST form Ableton I have to hear also the sounds of the piano so its a bit frustrating. Is there a way to silence it while using its speaker?
I could not tell the difference between the first 2 patches of the piano sounds, but I could tell the third one has more bass. I didn't like the bright 4th patch of the piano sounds though, I prefer deeper piano sounds.
question: would a professional piano tuner pass the fp30x for concert hall recital? my experience of digital pianos is not good when it comes to tuning! it sounds slightly flat to me in the higher range?
I think digital pianos are generally well tuned but lack the "stretch" tuned into acoustic pianos. That's why I like Pianoteq Pro. Every parameter of every note can be minutely adjusted. I play my DGX-670 in tandem with Pianoteq Pro and have sharpened the treble of Pianoteq to coincide with a one of the Brahms variations on a theme by Paganini which has a very wide spacing between the bass and treble. It's in noticably detuned in the treble which gives it the authentic sound of an acoustic which is not perfect. If digitals have a fault, it is they tend to be too perfect, somewhat like canned food. Piano tuning is an art as well as a science. In the 60's when I was at the University of Colorado, they always claimed the human ear likes to hear a piano the is slightly sharp in the treble. I think that's what you are experiencing.
That would be a question for a professional tuner of course! With that said, digital pianos "benefit" from the ability to achieve absolute "perfection" if desired when it comes to intonation. I put those words in quotation marks because they are highly subjective and not necessarily the desired result for those that are accustomed to the imperfections of an acoustic piano experience. To that point, many digital piano manufacturers strive to capture the little nuanced imperfections of an acoustic piano to create authenticity.
thanks for your reply! fyi - i did employ a piano tuner for my rd800 (individual note tuning being a feature!) - he stated that the samples would not allow him to tune it to the perfections he required. it took about an hour and he did make it sound so much better than factory default tunings! @@MerriamPianos
When you say you can throw a three way peddle on this, does Roland have one of those you'd recommend or is there a third party option you would choose? Thanks to anyone who can answer :)
That is certainly quite a good deal. With that said, there are some limitations. The FP30X has a better speaker system, more features, and triple pedal capability. :)
I am also getting it. It is a great deal in Canada too. It has, as you said, polyphony of 128 and a few different tones, comparing with FP-10. Thank you for bringing it up. By the way, I got my first FP-10 three years ago and now I am coming back full circle after quite a few digital pianos, including FP-90X and Yamaha P-515. I practice three times a week on Yamaha C7 so I just need a simple digital piano for some learning at home. Michael
Hey Stu, great review and nice playing. Can you check this for me? I always wonder why did they abandoned the sustain pedal effect? As you know, on an acoustic piano, when you hold down a note, it is NOT the same sound as when you do the same with the sustain pedal down too. Do you hear a difference on this FP30X? I have a FANTOM8 workstation and this is NOT implemented! Same sound holding a note as with the sustain pedal down! Even if this is to save memory and samples, it should be so easy to just implement a gated reverb that is triggered with the sustain pedal and when you release the sustain pedal, the reverb cut off. I did a hack on my FANTOM8 with a sustain pedal with 2 wires, one on the sustain input jack and the other to CTRL1 pedal input with a reverb programmed BUT when I let go the sustain pedal, the reverb stays! Better than nothing anyway. BTW I'm also a piano tuner/tech.
Hi, Brent from Merriam Music here! That is a very interesting and nifty trick! I certainly know what you mean. There are some nuances that digital pianos have not quite been able to capture faithfully to that of an acoustic piano. With that said, higher end models with more sophisticated tone engines and resonance engines are able to achieve a higher level of detail in this regard. Thanks again and happy playing! :)
@@MerriamPianos BUT I already have the FANTOM8 Roland's flagship workstation and I can't seem to find any adjustment/tweaking to achieve this. When the firsts big machine came on the market in the 80s - 90s like Kurzweil, Fairlight, PPG, Synclavier, etc. all their pianos had that feature. Why did it disappeared? I will give my FANTOM8 another try to find something I could tweak to achieve this sustain pedal sympathetic strings resonance.
Hello stu Stu I keep seeing/hearing what these pianos can connect to a computer but what does the computer give you ..am so out dated I have no clue ????? Where can I learn about this
Hi! Brent here! Connecting the piano to a computer allows you to use it as a MIDI controller and control other virtual instruments and sound libraries. :)
Hi Stu, you mentioned the new type of grease that is being used and how it's applied. There are countless discussion boards that the keys start to "click" after 6 months to a year. Have you found that to be an issue or has it been resolved with this new application method?
Personally, I find the FP30X to be the all-around better option, but it really comes down to a matter of personal preference in terms of touch and tone. I find the FP30X to have a more balanced piano tone and a more authentic feeling action.
You can't add them to the onboard tone engine, but you can use the FP30X as a MIDI controller to control VSTs and sample libraries on computers/devices.
@@MerriamPianos does the fp30x always play the tones built in or are you able to mute them? I’m trying to use it as a midi and add different pad sounds using a music software
Maybe its a personal preference thing, but Stu seems to gravitate towards the roland brand keyboards i notice. Yet its been said that the Kawai mp11se has the closest accoustic feel and sound to a real grand piano. If that is true, why doesnt Stu gig with a Kawai? Is it the Roland is lighter and more portable? More reliable? Im just curious?
This is a very good observation! When choosing an instrument to gig with, there are a few things that need to be balanced and mitigated. Portability is unquestionably one of them! I know Stu is a big fan of the PHA4 and PHA50 actions. He ended up trading in his RD2000 for the FANTOM-08 model due to the impressive feature offering of the FANTOM-08 as well as the portability it offered. It is substantially smaller and easier to transport than the MP11SE and RD2000 models. For players that don't mind the extra size and weight (or the ones that are fortunate enough to have roadies/crews to deal with it), this won't be a major concern. It all comes down to context ultimately! :)
Hi, do you find anoying that basicly everytime you play a bit stronger the keys are clicking like a mouse button? Basicly this piano checks all the boxes I need for a very cramped space (have about 30cm of depth space). But the clicking...oh man. Is there anything else on the market that is of similar quality (less then 30cm depth, can record audio, has good feeling keys, doesnt have to be piano hard, just good feel and good sound)? Thanks for all your videos, been looking for quite some time now and still cant decide. 25years of piano playing experience, having to get rid of my old petrof upright piano for a small sub.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Mechanical key noise is a byproduct of any heavier, fully-weighted action. Unless you are playing with the volume set extremely low (10% for instance), I personally don't notice any key noise. With that said, there are some lighter or more cushioned actions on the market that have less key noise. The Casio PXS5000/6000/7000 models are quite quiet for instance, but they are also much lighter touches with dual sensors that lack escapement simulation. It all comes down to a matter of personal preference and taste of course. The best bet is to test out pianos in person to see which one you connect with the most. :)
@@MerriamPianos thanks for the vwry quick response, pxs5000 is the one I was eyeing for that price range, just need to test it. Keep up the good work 🙂
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I had taken lessons for years from kid to teen but stopped and now I'll be 25 this year. It will be a pain to relearn everything after so long but I just ordered this piano and it comes in Friday and I'm excited to get back to it as there's so many songs I want to learn to play now!
Congrats on taking the first step into relaunching your piano journey! The FP30X is a wonderful piano, so I know you will have an excellent musical companion to accompany you. Also, I think you'll be surprised at how much you remember. Music/songs tend to bury themselves very deep into our brains. ;)
I played a Yamaha P80 for 20 years, and I thought the key action was pretty close to the real thing. Several months ago I purchased a Roland FP-E50 which has the PHA-4 Keybed as well. WOW! What a difference! Now this feels like real thing. Really you can't do better all considered than the FP-30X.
For sure! The PHA4 action is exceptional! It really is an impressive offering for the price point. You really can't go wrong! :)
PHA-50 really good.
I just ordered this piano for black friday yesterday! I've been playing a regular acoustic piano for about a year and have a semi weighted 88 key midi already. I didn't originally get a weighted for at home because I had a major traumatic injury in one of my fingers on my right hand one year ago. I severed two tendons and a nerve. This will be my first at home weighted piano. I've worked hard practicing and nursing my finger back to strength all year for this. It's coming tuesday! I'm so excited
That's awesome! Congrats on your FP30X! It is a wonderful piano and I know you will be very thrilled with it once it arrived. Best of luck on your piano journey and thanks for tuning in! :)
How much did you get it for Black Friday?
I discovered this channel and bought this keyboard thanks to your original review. I have never regretted either. Thanks Stu!
Hi! Brent here! Thanks so much! We appreciate that. We're happy to hear that you're still enjoying your amazing Roland FP30X! :)
You're an incredible musician and reviewer, Stu. THANK YOU !
Thanks for tuning in! I'll be sure to pass on the kind words to Stu on your behalf!
FP30X is my first piano and loving it so far
Congrats your FP30X! It is heckuva piano to say the least! :)
hi, may I ask you a question please. I am choosing piano for myself but with the idea that my kids might pick up my new hobby. I almost decided to go for roland fp 30x, but someone told me that the keys on roland will be way too hard for kids of 8 y.o . I also watched someones review in youtube who did say that after a while he has replaced roland with yamaha because he could not get used to the key actions on roland. Please tell me what do you think if keys are indeed too hard to use for kids. thx
@@PashikTTkeys are just fine 🙂 😮
Thanks to this channel, I bought this keyboard and couldnt be happier. Also love watching the reviews because this dude plays so beautifully.
Thank you kindly! We're so happy to hear that you have been enjoying your FP30X! Thanks for supporting the channel. :)
I still play my FP30x even after having my C. Bechstein A6. FP30X is going to my corner office this November. I might upgrade the C. Bechstein to Concert 8 or Seiler SE 186; the FP 30x stays. It will always be my first piano and my first love.
That is awesome to hear! It is a great convenience to have both an excellent acoustic and digital piano on hand. Having a digital piano allows for practice 24/7 if necessary. Thanks for tuning in! :)
Stu...I'm not even in the market for a digital keyboard (I already have one) but your reviews are just great so I watch...thanks! lol...
Hi! Brent here! Thanks so much for supporting the channel! I'll pass on the kind words to Stu for you! :)
I recently bought an FP30X on the strength of your reviews, especially the main review you posted 2 years ago. I was surprised to find this video just now, and a bit apprehensive that it was posted because you eventually found more negatives. I was relieved to find that it wasn’t the case, and that I still made the right decision 😊
Congrats on your FP30X! It certainly still holds up as an amazing instrument with an impressive tone and touch. From a cost to value perspective, it is very tough to compete with! :)
Nonstop hypnotic playing my goodness!
Stu is certainly quite the talent! :)
I played a Roland 3000S Electric Piano since 1988, until I bought an FP 30x. I am over moon with this instrument. The sound and action are perfect. The speakers are good, but playing with headphones or a sound system brings this great keyboard to heights that I could not imagine from a reasonably priced keyboard. Thank you for navigating us through the waters of digital keys.
You're very welcome! Congrats on your FP30X! It is a heckuva piano. I know you will be very thrilled with what it offers musically for many years to come. :)
After watching several videos from you, about different pianos. I bought a Roland FP30X today :-).. I'm looking forward to practicing, greetings from Iceland! And thanks a lot for this Videos.
Hello, from Canada! Brent from Merriam Music here! Congrats on your FP30X! It is a wonderful instrument with a fantastic touch and tone. I am very confident you will be pleased with what it has to offer. Thanks for tuning in! We're glad the videos were helpful. :)
Hello my friend, about the keys, did you have any problems? I saw some people saying that after a while they start to make noise... Greetings from Brazil
So nice to hear you playing classical peaces Stu!!! Good review. Thanks
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for tuning in! We're glad you enjoyed it! :)
I just got this for my 17 year old son for Christmas. He wants to learn to play the piano, so I bought an FP-10. One to two days after ordering I learned of the shortcomings (for advancement) of the FP-10. So I ordered the FP-30X. My son has a Roland TD17-KVX drum kit, which he started lessons on, and gave up after 6 months, despite showing great progress and promise. My wife decided to learn to play drums at that point. We’ve figured if he stops playing/learning, we’ll learn how to play. I had lessons when I was 8 or 9, but that was 52 years ago, and I’m determined to learn fully now. I think at the price point(s) you can’t beat the FP-10 or FP-30X.
That is awesome to hear! While the FP10 is fantastic, the FP30X is a meaningful step up. The triple pedal support in particular gives it far more longevity for learning purposes. :)
@@MerriamPianos Thank you, it’s great to get confirmation from an expert I made the right choice.
Thank you for your fantastic video reviews. I'm 58 years old and I decided to learn the piano and the Spanish classical guitar. Your reviews of the Roland FP line, were instrumental (pun intended), in my decision to purchase the FP-30X bundle package. I can't wait to start.
Haha that's awesome! Well played pun. ;)
Thanks for tuning in! We're glad to hear that our videos were helpful in your decision making. Congrats on your FP30X. It is a marvellous piano with a great touch and tone. I know you will be very pleased with it. Happy playing!
My school uses these for our keyboard class, I really like them so I'm considering buying my own for home use!
That is awesome! We use the FP30X for some of our group piano classes as well due to their authentic feeling actions. :)
First of all: I love love love your videos, Stu! Thank god I stumbled over your channel by chance! So much knowledge, competence and directions how to deal with overwhelming market conditions - thanks so much for your heartwarming analysis and playing by a dedicated musician! You helped me to decide easily considering my budget and my needs to get back into piano playing after such an extended break of 25 years without having access to a piano at all.
Since yesterday I’ve got the pleasure playing again on my new Roland FP30X feeling much like my own piano back in time I learned on. At first the traditional piano setup will not just do but is lovely to recall what I considered lost and yes it’s coming back from deep inside memorized 50 years ago - after my first day on the FP30X already. So much to explore furthermore never imagined possibilities with todays “state of the art” on a digital piano. Thanks so much for your generous sharing of yours!
A merry, merry Christmas to you and your family from Mexico🎄
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thank you kindly for tuning in and writing in! We sincerely appreciate it. It is awesome to hear that you have decided to jump back into playing the piano. All of the muscle memory comes back bit-by-bit. ;)
We're happy to hear that you've been impressed with your amazing Roland FP30X! It is an awesome piano and is certainly an impressive offering from Roland that showcases what digital pianos can do these days.
Thanks so much and Merry Christmas to you too!
Hello my friend, about the keys, did you have any problems? I saw some people complaining that after a while they start to make noise.... Greetings from Brazil
really appreciate the up - to - date reviews & everything you guys put out , always professional & keeps my interest & passion in exploring music , & it makes my days better honestly ♥ thank you guys
You're very welcome! Thanks so much for the incredibly kind words! We sincerely appreciate it. We're glad to hear that you have been finding the videos enjoyable and helpful! :)
9:18 dont worry i think we all love it when Stu gets carried away
Haha absolutely! :)
I love mine and the grand piano sounds are the best.
That is awesome to hear! The FP30X is a wonderful instrument! :)
I bought fp30x because this channel year ago. I really love the acoustic piano sound.
Pls do Christmas album with fp30x acoustic piano. Thank you
That's awesome! We're glad to hear that you've been enjoying your FP30X! They're wonderful pianos. I will certainly pass on your suggestion to Stu! ;)
Mine arrives Wednesday I can’t wait! Keep up the great review and inspiring playing.
Very exciting! Congrats on your FP30X! Thanks so much for the kind words. We're glad you enjoyed the review!
I have one and I love it!
That's awesome! The Roland FP30X is a powerhouse that packs a lot of punch for its price! :)
I started learning a week ago on my kids $100 keyboard with an online app and am loving it! Just ordered the FP30x on the back of yours and other videos. Was looking at FP10 but for not much more the 30x looks the goods.
That is awesome to hear! The FP30X is a powerhouse with an incredible cost-to-value ratio. I know you will be thrilled with it! :)
Thanks so much for this review. I bought this piano a few weeks ago and love it, but I was wondering if it is “still” a contender compared to newer keyboards. You’ve confirmed it is still a great choice. Buyers remorse is set aside, and I’m just going to enjoy my piano. Love it.
If you haven’t done one, I would love a video showing how to use the Roland Piano app…well. Thanks!
Congrats on your FP30X! It is still one of the most popular choices at this price point! It really is an exceptional instrument. Thanks for tuning in and congrats on your FP30X! :)
Just switched from Yamaha to this piano thanks to this channel. Thank you so much for all the content! 😊
You're very welcome! Thank you for tuning in and supporting! It is greatly appreciated. And congrats on your FP30X! They're wonderful pianos. :)
I feel like if you like more base in the default sound without doing any digital turning the Fp30x is your go-to, especially if you like an action with more feeling when pressing down on keys.
If you like more overall balance in sound and a lighter, more snappy action, I'd go with the Kawai es120.
But I would also mention that the Fp30x has an integrated input sound chip, meaning it can play things like pianoteq (an amazing sounding piano engine) That can mimick a 100,000 dollar Steinway D through to the speakers of the Fp30× straight from a PC or Laptop.
You would need to own an independent (audio interface) device to achieve that on any other digital piano below 1500 dollars.
An audio interface can cost between 100-500 bucks depending on the quality you go with, not to mention the extra cords and setup mess.
These are all excellent points that will certainly factor into the decision making process of some players/shoppers depending on how they're looking to use their digital piano. Thanks for tuning in and sharing your insights! We appreciate it. :)
I purchased a FP30X about two years ago out then moved house so it remained in the box. I’ve now moved again so have the room to set it up. This is my first piano and I’m a beginner so a little overkill I know. I wouldn’t have pushed myself to learn if it wasn’t for this channel, it’s something I’ve always wanted to do. Thank you so much! 🙏🏽
You're very welcome! Congrats on your FP-30X! Enjoy! :)
Overkill? This is a cheap keyboard…..
I'd say you've made a good choice. This will suit a beginner or pre-intermediate piano student very well. If you're into anything other than classical music, the extra sounds and effects can be useful too. Enjoy becoming a pianist!
Thanks Stu for this review. I am a happy owner of a FP30X. Very happy with it as a 40yo beginner.
Hi! Brent here! We're glad that Stu's review was helpful! Congrats on your FP30X! They are awesome pianos. I know you will be very happy with what it has to offer!
Still going strong? A fellow 40yo asking 😅
@@TheLooking4sunset absolutely. Still like to play every day. I can play one song by now, but I struggle to free up some time to study a new piece really. Eventually that will change someday.
Great video and amazing review. Love the way you communicate!
Thanks so much! We appreciate you tuning in! :)
Thank you so much Stu! I love your playing and your reviews are concise and complete! I would be making my purchases there except I live in California and I need a local dealer. God bless you and I pray you have a wonderful joyful time of worship at Christmas!
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! We appreciate the sentiment. :)
Thank you for the well wishes! Wishing you and yours the same during the holiday season! :)
I bought mine today at Guitar Center San Mateo
I originally had an FP10 and just upgraded to this. I appreciate the simplicity, great sound, and feel of these. When I want to get crazy, I connect it to my computer and run UVI Falcon!
That is awesome to hear! Congrats on your FP30X upgrade! It has a much nicer sonic experience and more functionality than the FP10. I think you will be very pleased with it! :)
2 years ago when I made a lot of research to find my first piano I found this channel. Your recommendation on the FP-30X was very convincing so I bought a full set (piano, stand, 3 pedal, stool and headphones). I absolutely did not regret my choice. I still love playing on this.
Though since then my hearing developed a lot and I started feeling that the stock piano sounds are not satisfying for me anymore, so I bought the Modartt Pianoteq 8 with a Steinway D instrument pack and since then I’m in heaven.
So thank you very much Stu and all of the team for maintaining this wonderful channel by creating informative, interesting, straight to the point, enjoyable and honest reviews.
Everytime I watch one of your new videos I immediately start feeling the urge to play the piano. :)
Greetings from Hungary!
Hi! Brent here! Thank you so much for writing in! That is awesome to hear! The FP30X still holds up as a wonderful piano and, as you've discovered, it even doubles as an excellent MIDI controller. :)
Thanks again and happy playing!
I did the exact same thing! The Pianoteq 8 with the Roland's action is really pleasing.
@@zackfishman3245 Nice! And totally agree with you there. :)
Personally changed to a Kawai ES110 because I felt the 30X action was "too heavy" for my taste, the Kawai also came with a better pedal. I definitely want to upgrade in the future though to something more realistic. It's just that digital pianos get so expensive if you want something better than decent :D
@@orangeeeeeee Interesting. In what terms are the Kawaii pedals better?
Yeah, if you want a more realistic feel you have to pay a lot.
I bought the original FP-30 over 4 years ago and never regretted it for a second (once I realised you can get a reasonable recording off the headphone socket, mitigating the lack of line outs). I’m considering an upgrade at the moment and like the P525. I’m looking forward to Stu’s review as I suspect the action will be more to his taste than the 515’s. To me, it’s not a million miles from the PHA-50 in feel, just with less cushioning at the bottom of the key travel. Thanks for all the videos - you’re my go-to channel for piano reviews.
You're very welcome! Thank you for supporting the channel! I'm happy to hear that you're still loving the FP30. It is a great piano! Best of luck in your search for the next instrument. :)
How can you tell whether an FP-30X is one with the updated grease? Is there a way to tell at all (preferably from the box), like manufacture date, serial number etc?
I don't believe there is a way to tell. Naturally, the change would have been implemented beyond a certain batch meaning that more recent serial numbers are more likely to have the changes made.
Man, I just love the Rhodes sounds…
Totally! Roland's additional instrument sounds are always on point!
I had a change in living circumstances recently and was considering this piano to replace my HP702, but I bought a FP60X which I think is an amazing instrument and well worth the extra £300 or so.
I don't know why but certainly in the UK Roland pianos are far more value for money than Yamaha. I do hope Roland doesn't go down the line of Yamaha and Casio in shrinking the size of future pianos at the expense of lighter action. Also when trying the Casio PXS pianos on a X frame stand, they were either too low or too high due to the small case. Size is not always everything!
Congrats on your FP60X! It is a wonderful piano with an amazing touch and tone. The speaker system also helps enhance the sonic experience! It is hard to argue with the notion that the Roland pianos offer incredible value given their associated price points. They are truly impressive digital instruments! :)
I originally bought this piano after some research a few months back so my daughter can take lessons at home; she didn't want to go somewhere to learn (she's 8yo). She unfortunately quit a month in and I ended up taking lessons instead. Really enjoying it, although, I don't really have experience with other pianos, so I can't say how much better it feels. lol
I am glad to hear that you are still getting use out of the piano! The FP30X is a remarkable instrument, especially for its price point. Best of luck with your piano journey! :)
Did they redesign the action for 2023? On mine, the hammers are in the front of the action. In the video at 2:09, I see an action that looks entirely different with the hammers in the back.
I have a Roland FP-30X bought in 2022 that I have had apart several times now to re-grease the cups on some of the hammers for the black keys to keep the keys from clunking when you release them. There is a paddle on the bottom of the plastic key that wipes through grease in a rectangular plastic cup on top of the hammer. The viscosity of the grease seems to dampen the action enough to stop the clunking. That interface between key and hammer also implements the escapement. I have become good at fixing my clunking keys through repetition, having to do it every couple of months. Eventually the grease gets squeezed out of the cup.
I love the feel of the action, but I don't like the frequent maintenance.
I believe the action featured in that slide is a different version of the PHA4. There were several different versions of the PHA4, but the one used in the FP10, FP30X, and FP60X models were the PHA4 Standard action, which is not what is featured in that slide. I believe the issue was that Roland never released action displays nor a side cutout of the PHA4 action. Sorry for the confusion!
@@MerriamPianos Thanks for the explanation. That seems like too big of a difference to me to be a variant of the same thing? In any case, suffice it to say that the PHA-4 standard action is quite good. At least from the perspective of my less than advanced skills.
But if one was to read around the Internet, I am not the only one with keys that clunk and bounce on release. The are annoying even wearing headphones because of the bouncing. Mine showed up after about a year of perhaps an average of an hour a day of playing. They are relatively easily [temporarily?] fixed by opening the case, removing the offending keys, and re-greasing the cups underneath. I remove the existing grease [only in the cups] and replace it with MolyKote 111 grease, which is a silicone-based plastic-safe food-grade grease. I believe that it is thicker (more viscous) than the pink stuff that Roland originally used (at least in my older FP-30X), but seems to perform well. It is probably the grease in this cup that Roland discovered slid out when the pianos were stored vertically during the COVID days?
Thanks again for the reply, and for all the great reviews!
@@romarsh2298 You're lucky you got that after a year. Mine showed up days after the purchase. Suffice to say I'm steering away from Roland from now on
@@m3rc743 And, unfortunately, replacing the grease is only a short-term fix. As you said, on some keys, it only lasts for a few days. On others it seems to be longer duration. For me, the two big offenders are C#3 and F#3. When it's not clunking and bouncing, the action is really good. I live with it for a while, and then open it back up and re-grease. I will also be looking elsewhere for my next purchase.
@@romarsh2298 A shame too. I love the heavy action. Anyway, which one were you eyeing for? Curious to know. I've been looking at the Yamaha p225, so far i haven't heard any major issues unlike the roland
6:17 the sound you have from the direct line-out…is that the factory tone/settings? I have this model and have a darker, muddier sound no only via the speakers, but from line-out through Yamaha monitors that cost more than the keyboard itself. I can get clearer tones with the app, but im curious what your go to settings are?
Hi there! We do not do any post-processing or adjustments of the core sound when demonstrating the piano sounds these instruments offer. The sound would have been taken from a direct line-out feed into an audio interface.
I bought a Roland Fp 30x last May and have had no regrets.What sold me was the action which is perfection...so responsive.Secondly the included audio interface which is such an excellent feature.You can now simply use it to record the audio from your computer into a laptop from the usb without using any audio aux in/out cables .This eliminates alot of external clutter cables....And as a plus you can now playback any audio you want from your laptop thru the Roland speakers via the internal usb audio interface.Good external audio interfaces are at least 75 dollars and the sky is the limit.So this eliminates the need to purchases one. Lastly this keyboard makes for an excellent midi controller due to the triple sensor keyboard.So you can enjoy all your VST's too.
You get all this and it doesnt break the bank.Its a great piano for beginner intermediate and advanced acoustic piano players who want to try transitioning to a digital piano without spending a fortune. Some may compain about the lack of LCD display but for my part it was not a factor to considers .It may be for others. I havent used the app much but when i did I found connectivity was easy to set up and the the app has many features to explore should you so wish to try.
Absolutely! It is a truly impressive instrument given its attractive and affordable price point. Roland really knocked things out of the park with the FP30X. While the lack of an LCD display will be a sore spot for some users, the user interface is still quite comfortable and easy to navigate.
After trying with three different iOS devices, I finally managed to make a Bluetooth connection to the FP-30x today (the Roland instructions are, to say the least, misleading and opaque). Now with the Piano Designer app the virtual lid on the piano can be opened and massively improves on the default sounds. Roland needs to clarify the instructions on its site and in the manual. But the sound improvement is a complete revelation.
Thanks for the note! I know what you mean. Sometimes, the instructions for Bluetooth connectivity can be a bit tricky to follow. With that said, I'm glad you figured things out and have been able to extract all of the amazing customization functions that the app offers. :)
Another great review as always. I wonder if you could do a short video on the hardware, cabling etc. you use to record the audio for your reviews (apologies' if you have already done such a video) 👍
Thanks so much! We will do our best to tackle that for you. Generally, the setup is pretty straight forward: 1/4" cables from the line or headphone outs into a Focusrite Scarlett audio interface, which connects to a device/DAW to capture the audio.
Excellent review and great playing, Stu.
Thank you ✨
Hi! Brent here! Thank you for tuning in! We're glad you enjoyed the review and Stu's playing! :)
@@MerriamPianos Hi Brent, you guys doing a great job. I've upgraded my 10-years-old FP4 to F30X recently. Your reviews were helpful (I have a few Rolands in the class so I could compare too). I like the polyphony, and the keybed feel. Love the weight of the keys, feels good for practicing, performing and as a weighted Midi keys. A nice deal for this price range.
Keep going! Your reviews are informative, highly professional and greatly represented ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Got delivery of my fp30x today... don't know why but really like textured ivory colour of the keys so don't think I will go back to white gloss piano keys. All the reviews I have seen about 30x are accurate... the sound is great so will keep me practicing.
Congratulations on your FP30X! We're really happy to hear that you've been enjoying it so far. The PHA4 action is excellent - both in terms of texture and weighting. Enjoy your new piano and thanks for tuning in! :)
Always love your playing Stu! I could listen to you all day and night.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in! I'll be happy to pass on the kind words to Stu for you! :)
Totally agree, the FP30X is king in the price range. I've got this for a friend and is very enjoyable to play. The action is amazing and the default piano sound is great. Really the only things I don't like is the way the volume control works (the buttons are annoying) and the looks are not exactly to my taste. But that's very minor annoyance. I have not tried the GHS compact action from Yamaha yet, but it is probably still not as good as PHA4.
Those are certainly some fair criticisms, but, as you mentioned, it is very difficult to argue with the musical experience it offers. The PHA4 action and SuperNATURAL piano sound combination is exceptional! :)
I tried boath the PHA4 and GHS, and to me the GHS is a lot beter in terms of dynamic responce. The PHA4 though having triple sensors struggels in soft playing, and the notes can drop louder than expected. This is not a problem with the GHS. The instruments I tried these actions on are the Roland RP701, Roland HP702, Yamaha P125, Yamaha YDP145, Yamaha P125A, and the Yamaha DGX670. Disclaimer I did not try these instruments all at the same time/same places. I did giv some benifit of doudt when I tried it on the RP701, however when I tried it on the HP702 about almost a year later I confirmed that this action isn't for me, though I am willing to play on one when needed. Definitely try them out first and see if they're for you🎹🎶
Do you mean GHS or GHC?
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 I always had this love and hate relationship with PHA-4. Hate, because of noise. Love, because of escapement that I like and also a certain feel that I prefer over GHS.
Michael
Ps. It is almost impossible to respond and edit the responses because of your name. Try it to see what the issue is.
@@mfurman is it because it's too long? Haha I was told by another commenter in a piano livestreem before they said I had a long name so I really showed them what long truelly is🎹🎶
Stu - another brilliant and very informative video. Oh, and coming from another Pianist (me!!!) - some LOVELY playing too! :-) Thank you!!!
Hi! Brent here! Thank you so much for tuning in! We're glad you enjoyed Stu's playing and review! :)
Per your recommendation on PH4 action on RD88 I bought that keyboard and also fell in love with the action, you are SO right about action.
Awesome! The RD88 piano and PHA4 action are both amazing! I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the RD88! :)
Stuu no coincidence that I bought the fp30x 2 days ago! Your videos with the fp30x made me get in love with the tones and the action! Thank you so much for your effortss!
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in and congrats on your FP30X! We're happy to hear that Stu's reviews were helpful through your process. :)
I took piano lessons for 10 years while growing up. I haven't played in years but have the time now and just started looking at digital pianos. I was focused on Yamahas (125, 225?) until I started watching your videos on the Roland FP30X. Almost ready to purchase this until I started reading the comments. Stu's sound is incredible, and I would be very happy with it. Now I see comments about the sound being muddy, black keys sticking, required maintenance with the grease, etc and feel like I'm back to square one. Unfortunately, there are no music stores within an hour of me and even the ones I would drive to have very limited instruments to try. Anyone else in a similar situation and have you made a decision? I do have access to a Yamaha P 115 and wondering if that would be representative of the sound and feel to a 125 or 225?
Hi! Brent here! The FP30X is a wonderful instrument with one of the most authentic feeling actions in this price category. There was a batch of units that had some grease/lubrication issues, but that has since been resolved. And, it is important to note that Roland resolved all of those units without any cost to the customer. I would also recommend checking out the Kawai ES120 model. It is a similar price point and has a wonderful touch/tone. Personally, I favour it over the P125 and P225 models, which I find to be a bit thin sounding. But, it all comes down to a matter of personal preference of course. :)
I had FP30, now I have FP30x. I really like it's Bluetooth functionality but I miss some of the sounds which has been removed from the "X" version.
There are additional sounds available through the Roland Piano App for the FP30X. That seems to be a trend that more companies are gravitating towards (additional sounds/features via app connectivity).
If you're not sure whether you'll like the PHA-4 action, buy the FP10 and use headphones to get basically the same performance as you would with the FP30X.
It is not exactly the case. I checked PHA-4 action in FP-10, FP-30X (I had both pianos in the past but rented them to check again) and RD-88. All actions measured slightly differently and felt differently as well. The best was the action in RD-88
Michael
The FP10 is definitely another option worth considering for shoppers on a tight budget. :)
@@MerriamPianos Or those who do not need hundreds of tones, rhythms etc and just want to have a relatively good MIDI controller for piano VSTs they have. It is a source of frustration for me that I cannot get a very good piano action without paying for features that are completely useless for me. I want digital piano with one or two very good acoustic piano sounds and nothing else (definitely not microphone inputs, effects etc). Such digital piano or MIDI controller does not exist (with the exception of Kawai VPC1 that is more than 10 years old). Digital piano manufactures just cater to those who perform or love to "have fun"
Michael
I originally bought the FP10 and can say for the price point you won't find a better digital piano. Loved the sound and feel, just got a bit frustrated with the user interface or lack of. I bought it just to use as a midi controller but ended up loving it as a piano. Ended up also getting the FP60X as I love the supernatural pianos but needed a better UX. The FP10 is in my studio as a 88 note controller and digital piano, the 60X in our lounge just for fun, entertainment and enjoyment!
@@midinotesI just added a Roland FP60X to my collection. Now I have a Kawai GL10 baby grand in the family room, a Yamaha P515, CasioGP510 and the Roland FP60X
Hi Brent, I just experienced the Roland's keys today and you were absolutely spot on, Roland seems better. I have experienced FP 10, FP 30X and Yamaha P225. Where FP 30X and Yamaha P225 is similar price point. Now getting confused about which one to pick 30X or P225.
Any opinion ?
Hi! Brent here! That is awesome to hear. I'm glad you had a chance to try them out in person. The PHA4 action used on the FP10 and FP30X is quite excellent. It comes down to a matter of preference, but, for me, the FP30X is the clear favourite. In my opinion, the FP30X offers a more authentic tone and touch compared to the P225.
@@MerriamPianos Thanks a lot, your videos were really helpful in understanding different tech terms and finding one piano within my budget. You just got a new fan of your videos :)
After playing on a Roland digital piano, listening to this Steinway D over and over, comparing to P121 (which I first wanted but after comparing the tone in pianissimo and fortissimo), I've come to the conclusion that the FP30x will the best choice.
Already got a Juno DS76, plan to upgrade to an FA07 (because of the keybed), will get an FP30x, been kindly looking at the VR730 and Gaia 2. I try to get away from Roland but their keyboards are so easy to use, have a fair price to their purposes and we get along so well 😂❤
It is hard to argue with the sentiment that Roland make excellent pianos with fantastic cost-to-value ratios. I am confident that you will be beyond thrilled with what the FP30X has to offer musically. :)
Yes love the roads❤
For sure! The Roland's non-piano sounds are quite impressive! :)
Exceptional review. Does anyone know if the fp-30x has the sustain function wihtout the pedal?
Thanks so much! I am not really sure what you mean by the sustain function without the pedal. In order to toggle the sustain on and off, you will require a sustain pedal (the DP2, DP10, RPU3, or KSC70 in this case).
@@MerriamPianos Thank you for your reply! One of the first electrical keyboards I bought didn't have a pedal nor could you buy one for it, so it had the sustain function by activating it ( I would press Function + Voice and sustain would activate), and you would basically have sustain on every note, wich is quite horrible but good in a sense for a beginner with no other options. I was wondering if the fp30x has the same function.
I really enjoy your thorough reviews. I bought an FP-30 six years ago to start learning piano. I really enjoyed it. A few months back there was a super deal on the FP-30X from a US dealer with a rebate from Roland. I sold my FP30 for nearly what I paid and got the FP-30X for almost no difference. I find the FP-30X to be a huge improvement over the earlier model. On the The FP-30, the piano sound was about the only good sound. The FP-30X has more great stereo sounds. The good thing about a digial piano is when I get bored with piano I can experiment with other sounds. I also use it as a MIDI controller with free or inexpensive VSTs on my computer.
That's awesome! The FP30X certainly has a more refined sonic experience, which can be attributed to the improvements to the speaker system of course. But, with that said, the FP30 still holds up as a wonderful instrument too. :)
Stu & community: the top octave of the FP30X sustains beginning on G6 and there is no way to defeat it. The Roland Piano Designer offers no solution. It's present on all of the acoustic piano settings but not on the other instruments. Too bad it isn't at least gradual. To hear this, set global ambience to 0, play staccato from F6 to G6, it's very abrupt. I saw this comment on the Roland site but the Roland response didn't address the issue. If this is a software bug, hopefully they can resolve it in an update. Perhaps others in the discussion have brought this up. Thank you for any info, and appreciate your excellent reviews!
Following up... understandably an acoustic does not have dampers across the top 18 keys, just wish there was a software approach to adjusting the amount. Thanks if anyone found a solution. I guess always leave on some ambience and it will smooth out. 🤗👍
@DrewTretick So for better or worse, you've nailed it - what you’re noticing is the result of Roland (and this would be the same of most Roland/Kawai/Yamaha digital pianos) simulating an acoustic piano and all its various Idiosyncrasies - in this case the top octave and a half having no dampers. The difference on a real piano is as sudden as what you're noticing, so just like simulating let-off or the 'thump' of the damper pedal, the philosophy here is "replicate / simulate", rather than "improve / evolve." I think you're thought of just turning the ambience up a little is a good one, and over time you'll likely get used to that change and even subconsciously adapt your playing around it. Enjoy! - stu
@@MerriamPianos @MerriamPianos Stu, thank you so much for making time for your most thoughtful and helpful reply! Interesting that the manufacturers are baking in that feature without user access. I imagine that tweak in a DAW piano may be available for secco notes G6 and above. Again, thank you so much and always looking forward to your next videos and absolutely gorgeous improvisations!! 🤗🎹✨
The real question for me now is what to choose. FP30x seems like a perfect choise, but there is also RP107. Which basically costs the same as FP30X with triple pedal and frame stand.
They are quite similar as you've pointed out! The decision ultimately comes down to the preferred form factor (portable versus console). The other thing to mention is the control panel. The FP30X has features more readily available, whereas the RP107 is a bit more reliant on app connectivity to access certain features.
Please tell me which piano is better and what is more suitable for classical music: Yamaha P225, Yamaha P125 or Roland FP-30X?
Hi there! Brent from Merriam Music here! I would personally gravitate towards the Roland FP30X for classical playing, due to the heavier touch of the PHA4 action. :)
I got some questions I hope to get answers to or from someone who is honest about the digital piano 30x and 60x and the Roland every day piano app, please have a look and to you or anyone else here on this great channel, if you can help me out it would be worth a lot as I do not feel confident the 60X for 1300 euro with he table stand is the right choice for me... thanks
### 1. *Sound Comparison: FP-60X vs. FP-30X*
- *Are the sounds on the FP-60X and the FP-30X the same as in the app?*
- I’m curious if the sounds available directly on the FP-60X and FP-30X are the same as those accessible through the Roland app. Are the sounds on the piano’s physical interface and those in the app identical, or are they different?
### 2. *Fender Rhodes Sounds*
- *FP-60X Rhodes Sounds:*
- I’m particularly interested in the Rhodes sounds, specifically those from the 1970s. On the FP-60X display, I noticed the "Suitcase 1976" Rhodes sound, but I’m wondering if there are more Rhodes sounds available-either on the FP-60X itself or through the app. Can I find any additional, more authentic Fender Rhodes sounds from the 1970s?
- *FP-30X Comparison:*
- Is the FP-30X limited in terms of sound variety compared to the FP-60X? Is the main difference just that on the FP-30X, I’d need to use the app to access the same sounds that are available directly on the FP-60X’s physical interface?
### 3. *Customizing Sounds*
- *Customization of Rhodes Sounds:*
- I love vintage 1970s sounds and enjoy tweaking and customizing them. I found the "Suitcase 1976" on the FP-60X, but I’d like to know if I can further customize it or if there are additional similar sounds that can be modified to my preference. Is the app the key to unlocking more customization options, or am I limited to what’s on the digital piano itself?
### 4. *Sound Variety and Professional Quality*
- *Sound Limitations on FP-60X:*
- My concern is that the FP-60X seemed limited in terms of professional sounds, especially when I noticed a lot of novelty sounds like drums, rain, laughter, and applause, which I find unnecessary for a digital piano in this price range. I’m looking for more serious, professional sounds, particularly from the 1970s.
- *Are there more professional sounds available through the app, or is the FP-60X limited to what’s on the physical display?*
### 5. *Price and Value*
- *Is the FP-60X worth the investment?*
- The store near me is offering the FP-60X with a table stand for a bit over 1300 euros. Given my concerns about the sound limitations, is this a good deal, or should I consider looking for a different digital piano that better meets my needs?
### 6. *App Functionality vs. Physical Interface*
- *Is the app a totally different universe?*
- If the app offers a lot more in terms of sound variety and customization, I’d like a clear explanation of how it works in conjunction with the FP-60X or FP-30X. Does it significantly expand the functionality of the physical keyboard, and is it user-friendly enough to justify relying on it for accessing more professional sounds?
### Conclusion:
- *Your Advice:*
- Based on these concerns, would you advise sticking with the FP-60X, or should I consider a different model or brand that might offer more of the professional 1970s sounds I’m looking for? Your expert opinion would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your help in clarifying these points!
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for the questions. I will do my best to answer them:
1. The extended FP30X tones on the app are not the exact same as those on the FP60X. The FP60X has a more extensive tone list onboard than even the FP30X via the app. I believe there is a combination of some overlapping patches and some that are unique to the FP60X.
2. The FP60X certainly has a more extensive offering of onboard sounds. While there are basic e.piano sounds on the FP30X, you would have to use the app if you want more extensive options. There are two primary Rhodes sounds on the FP60X. Personally, I find them to be excellent patches that do a good job of emulating the classic Rhodes sound. You can see the full tone list for the FP60X on page 31 of its user manual.
3. There are some parameters that are adjustable (particularly in terms of effects), but the level of customization is not as extensive as the core piano sounds. I believe the adjustments that can be made on the Roland Piano App are the same as those available onboard the FP60X.
4. The FP60X is limited to whats onboard the piano. Naturally, you could extend your sonic palette through VST plugins. But, any MIDI compatible digital piano would be able to be used in conjunction with VST plugins. In terms of whether the FP60X's tones are "professional" sounding. That is a matter of subjectivity of course. Every player must make that decision for themselves.
5. Once again, this is a determination that every player/consumer will have to make for themselves. Value is a very subjective matter. In my personal opinion, I think the FP60X offers a ton of value for its price point.
6. The Roland Piano App helps expand the functionality of the FP30X, but it doesn't really have the same impact on the FP60X given that the FP60X's onboard system is quite extensive on its own. You can download the Roland Piano App for free and scan through the layout and parameters that can be accessed to get a better idea of what it has to offer.
Conclusion: Personally, I think the Roland FP60X is an excellent option if you're looking for a digital piano with both great acoustic sounds and e. piano sounds. Again, it really comes down to personal preference and subjectivity. My recommendation would be to test out the FP60X in person if possible. That is the best way to determine whether the musical experience it offers satisfies your ears. In my opinion, Roland has arguably the best and most extensive offering of non-piano sounds on the market. I think their e.piano and organ sounds in particular are exceptional.
Thanks and hope this helps!
@@MerriamPianos thanks I got to test both the 30x and the 60x now in a store… I am a beginner to playing the piano… I can improvise on a piano and understand that basics… but not sit and song after song for others… I wanted an instrument to better learn to memorize melodies as a singer primarily and then I felt I also like to learn a nee instrument ones I began to visit the music stores here.. I used to play drums from 6-18 so it was a nostalgic feeling to sit down by drum kits once again in life… but for learning to sing better and focus on melodies I am really not sure what instrument to get into, both the wood flutes that have 5-8 holes and a chromatic harmonica are cheaper and easier to carry with me, and perhaps can improve learning melodies of famous soul, jazz and pop songs on while improving my breathing and understanding for creating melodies by those instruments… but I can of course not sing at the same time as I use them… the kalimba maybe is best choice if one only wanna learn melodies by ear!?
I felt quite overwhelmed by the Roland 30/60X pianos as they are so large and heavy and that ones one sit down starting to work on something a real piano feels like I maybe will struggle more to learn the piano than having an instrument to support me to better learn music and support me better to memorize melodies so that I can sing songs more fluently with no need for a backing track to listen to any other singers singing the songs I try to learn by heart… I already got a good understanding for breathing and making sounds as a trained actor from a conservatory for acting at NYU Tish school of the arts, but I lack in understanding music theory and singing a Capella, memorizing melodies on my own… I realized this while singing in a choirs that I rely on those close around me to find the pitch and where to start and then I am good at following along and at that point I got no issues what so ever to follow along with perfect pitch and a strong voice and making vibrato, belting or what not ones someone sings with me and kind of leads me through the song… but ones there is a singing class and a teacher asks me to sing to her accompaniment on the piano where she is not playing the melody for me I am totally lost and feel so embarrassed and stupid I cannot find back to the first tone even on my own, but if she sings with me I can suddenly easily follow along…
So, I need yo break through here so I am learning to memorize melodies like everyone else in the school…
Is ironic that when we do warm ups and sound training of all sorts where you imitate the sounds the teacher makes going up and down in every scale and try everythingfrom fry, belting, vibratos, head voice and so on I am always the one that can do it immediately and the teacher asks if I have had a lot of voice training abd other students say, wow, your vibrato is amazing when you sing… but it comes naturalky for me to feel how to place all sounds but I am the only one in school that struggle so much to memorize a melody!! It makes me feel like I am crazy compared to others… so I felt maybe I must start with music theory and an instrument to learn more than other bed toto learn to memorize melodies and sing a Capella as I struggled like this for years now… but a full size piano with a table at home for 1300 dollars felt like I got overwhelmed as I am not a pianist but just want to learn to sing freely any song someone asks me to or I feel I really wanna learn to sing on my own without anyone beside me kind of babysit me getting through the melodies… I got no issues memorizing my lines or others lines when we are acting out our plays… but singing with a flow not braking the melodies… wow.. I am the dumbest ib tue room and feel so ashamed and stressed by now when it is my time to sing my chosen song and I can see the teacher by the piano is like watching me, oh nooo, not that student again 🙅♀️…
So that is my case… I live the sounds of the rhodes and the suitcase and melancholic sounds… I can sit on my own for very long just making such improvised “songs” on a piano ones I find that rhodes sound.. then I get into a zone for me I love… so is why I was asking so much about that…
Todqy I just saw something called Yamaha Reface CP… but those keys were not weighted at all… so very snappy but the keyboard sounds were really nice from that aspect… so not sure if I shoukd dare to get a real piano at home like the Roland 30x or 60x … maybe is a good deal for 1300 with the fulk table support, no extra three pedals though… But I do not think I will have any need for those at this point anyways…
Or just get the Yamaha Reface CP to focus on simple melodies and imitate them or even a more advanced chromatic kalimba like 24 keys to have in my hands while trying to imitate the melodies and learn them on the kalimba as well…
I see Roland also got a singing device tool to help singers to learn better.. bot sure if you tasted this and if you think is worth it or just a plastic gimmick?
Is this one: www.roland.com/us/products/vt-12/
A vocal trainer that can hear two peopoe or ohe person and an instrument at the same time and show you when you are at the right pitch and tone and some drills and songs pre-recorded for learning to sing better… have you tested this ever and what is your opinion of this kind of device for someone like me with my aspirations to learn to sing a Capella?
I feel like I am a bit lost in the best way to get started and believe I can develop in such an endeavor and call to learn to sing a capella after years of struggling on my own to learn melodies… but as said, pianos are kind of new to me andI do not have such training and my goal is to learn to sing freely with no need to have a support from anyone else…
That is my dream!
Ok, thanks a lot for getting back to me!
Means a lot to hear someone who maybe can understand my particular situation and see what is the best way to go about it without making it too complex for myself to get there so to speak…
Thanks, Chris
I just got the Roland FP-30X and played some exercises on it for the first time. My impression of it corresponds to my motive for getting it in the first place. If you are someone whose goal is to move on to an acoustic piano when you are able to do so financially and you are living in a place where you can have an acoustic piano, then the Roland is what you want at an entry-level price. I have to say, I think the tone is a little weak but maybe I haven't tweaked it yet. For another thing, played through headphones or through an amplifier and speaker system, the tone might come across a little better. I was disappointed in the other voices also, but then you might need to tweak the settings or layer tones to get the best results.
People need to understand, digital keyboards are not imitations of something else but instruments of their own accord. Which one is best at any certain price level depends on what your purpose is. But the same is true also for every type of acoustic instrument.
If you want to go on to perform in front of audiences using a digital instrument, you need to get an instrument suited to your purposes. If you want to move on to an acoustic instrument, you also need to get the instrument with the keyboard action that most closely emulates the instrument you want to play be that piano, organ, harpsichord or whatever. Am I saying that keyboard action is the first consideration? Yes, I think I am.
The other thing that occurs to me is that if you want better sound, then you need to get external speakers. If you are playing only at home, you might not need the most powerful but getting the best quality is important. For another thing, if you are at home practicing with your keyboard, you will not be outside the house spending money. Your keyboard, speakers and headphones might pay for themselves in not too long. That's something to think about too. Being at home culturally improving yourself instead being outside spending money.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for writing in and sharing your insights! Congrats on your FP30X! It is a fantastic choice and certainly one of the most authentic touches you will find in the price category. While the speakers are not the most powerful, as you've stated, there are plenty of options out there to enhance the speaker system with external speakers/amps. Thanks again and enjoy your new piano! :)
@@MerriamPianos The FP-30X sounds more authentic at higher volume, I have learned. My idea is that one does not need to get a powerful speaker system just for practicing and playing at home. The important thing is to get high quality and faithful reproduction of the sounds the keyboard processor is generating. I want to go back to the idea that each instrument has its purposes. Anyone who intends to buy a keyboard needs to research what product best suits their purposes at the price they can afford. I was fortunate that a music store which sells at online prices had a local branch. I was able to go in and at least assess the keyboard action, and then ultimately buy what I wanted at a discount price.
Thank you for this.
You're very welcome! :)
Another great review. I have watched so many of these. I have a question. I know you can alter the tuning. But my question for anyone who may have this is, if you change the tuning does it save? Or do you have to adjust it from 440 every time you turn the piano on. I live in an area where A is mainly 443.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in! I'm not at a showroom currently to test it out myself, but I believe the master tuning adjustments are stored when you save the settings. Perhaps, one of our helpful community members here can verify that. :)
@@MerriamPianos that's so helpful! Thank you very much for a response. It looks like a great keyboard.
Hello Stu and thanks for yet another great review! I just want your recommendation iydm. Im literally torn between kawai Es120 and Roland fp30x. Im a complete beginner and wanted to learn piano for a long time now, specifically classical pieces. And i saw a lot of good reviews with the ES120 especially on its sound quality, but in terms of action, a lot of people lean on the FP30x than the ES120. In your opinion, for a complete beginner getting into the classical music, is it better to get ES120 with it sound quality or the FP30x with its better action for pianos within its price range? Thanks for the reply.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for tuning in! At the end of the day, it really comes down to a matter of personal preference. I tend to favour the ES120 in terms of sound, but the FP30X in terms of action. For me, if you're venturing into serious classical playing, the action should be the priority. It is also the invariable element. You can access different piano sounds via VSTs and you can always get more speaker power through PAs or keyboard amps. The action on the other hand is something that cannot be changed in the process. Thanks again for the question and hope this helps a bit! :)
desde Colombia un saludo inmenso, son videos maravillosos, quiero comprar este piano y la reseña me ha ayudado a decidirme por el gracias.
Thank you for tuning in! The FP30X is a fantastic instrument. I know it will serve you well. :)
I am a happy owner of FP30x and I love it.
That is awesome to hear! Happy playing! :)
@@MerriamPianos This was a choice I hadn't considered before. I was inclined to the better Casio stage piano or perhaps to Yamaha DGX-660 with many more sounds and an arranger function, but my priority was the good piano feel (action) that my daughter would benefit from when continuing to learn piano. Therefore DGX-660 lost at the start, as it used a really unconvincing, outdated keyboard. I went to a couple of stores, playing on various Yamahas, Kawais and Casios and Korgs, I also watched a number of videos. Including Stu's reviews which I found very informative, in-depth, and also a pleasure to listen to, musically. [btw, I was shocked to see on YT how many very mediocre keyboard players actually dare to present their "skills" and comment on the key action... although, frankly, I am not a better player and still easily feel the difference ;-) ]
Then I eliminated Casio (reluctantly, but it felt quite far from the piano action, under my fingers) and watched more Stu's videos. Eventually I also sampled Roland FP-10 and FP-30x - and took my daughter with me so that she also could have a chance to compare ...
Actually we seemed to love Yamaha P515 the most, also for its sound.
But Roland came damn close, and they incidentally had a good discount on it right on time ;-) which made for a HUGE price difference to P515.
So I bought FP30x and never looked back. Well, actually I miss Bosendorfer sound from P515... but that's just me.
At that time my daughter had some learning crisis, something that happens to many piano students every couple of years. Recurrent slow-progress eras. Amidst this crisis she was complaining that her piano is far from the real grand piano she has an occasional access to (which I fully agreed with) and the piano is to blame (not quite convincing). However, upgrading the instrument might have helped her to overcome this crisis, and - while not a fast learner and hard-working student - she is making nice progress since then and recently started playing some cool stuff with visible satisfaction and for her own pleasure. And this counts the most!
For amateur musicians, FP30x is probably more than they may ever need, especially when used with computer/tablet, Roland apps and external tone bank (and DAW, if you're into that). One of my complains is the very limited number of buttons, which makes controlling the device less straightforward and less stage-friendly. I am also not a fan of its look, but that's purely subjective.... This is not to say that other instruments are no better. If I get extra money, I may consider switching to E920 or its current incarnation, P525 or maybe the future DGX680 or whatever, if this gets a good keyboard. The other complain is the lack of aftertouch (useful for controlling certain tone generators/ sound banks), but I am not aware of an instrument that would combine both excellent piano action and an aftertouch in this price range - or have I missed something? I am not sure I would really use it, though. As time has shown, I can live happily with all these 'shortcomings'. No better piano will make me a better pianist - only practice will. FP30x is not limiting me in any way.
Which would be more realistic in terms of action and sensitivity, this Roland or the Kawai ES120? Thanks for your videos!
It is a matter of personal preference of course, but I would personally say that the FP30X is a more realistic feeling action. :)
Very good review, but now I'm wondering if it's worth this FP 30x or the RP107, as much as I look for comparisons I can't find anything. I need some help. Thank you :)
Thanks so much! They are quite comparable in terms of specs (i.e. same action, same tone engine, similar speaker power, etc.). With that said, the decision comes down to form factor. If you need portability, the FP30X is the obvious choice. The FP30X also has more feature accessibility on board because of its control interface. The RP107 is designed to be an at-home digital piano.
Hello At first i want to say sorry for my english, but i have question about FP30X, did they still have issues with F keys and loud clicking etc? Im little afraid.. I hope you understand me and answer my question, best regards.
Hi! Brent here! I am no sure what you mean by "F" keys. With that said, in terms of the clicking, Roland has implement the use of a new grease that resolves this issue. :)
@@MerriamPianos Sorry for the incomprehensible comment, if you type "Roland Fp30x problem" on RUclips you will see what I mean, thank you for your answer
Would you have a suggestion for a particular amp to pair up with the FP-30X and a vocal mic? Thank you so much!
The Roland KC series keyboard amps are awesome! They do a magnificent job of bringing the best out of virtually any digital piano sonically, including the FP30X.
Nice review, I'm looking at a used one of these to gig with on bottom for acoustic and electric pianos, while using a VR09 on top for organs. Would this be loud enough in a full rock band running through a PA?
Thank you kindly! The onboard speakers are likely not loud enough to compete with a full rock band through a PA. However, you could take the headphone output and also run the FP30X through a PA system for more volume. :)
Ciaooo Stu!!! Complimenti per le tue recensioni sempre precise e dettagliate!! Volevo chiederti un consiglio a me serviva uno stage piano al quale si possa collegare un microfono con un amplificazione sufficiente per piccoli eventi. Sono indeciso tra il Roland fp90x, il dexibell s7pro M, o il casio px 6000. Quale mi consigli? Un saluto dalla Sicilia
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for the kind words and question! The FP90X is a fantastic option, but it is a bit on the larger side. If the size of that unit is not an issue, it is a formidable instrument with all of the features and performance you would need for live applications. If size/weight is a concern, the PXS6000 offers incredible portability. The action plays a bit lighter, but the form and portability factor make it a really appealing gigging option. :)
Hey there, amazing review! I am split between the fp-30x and the newer f-107. I can buy the fp30x with its stand and pedals for about the same price of the f107, and it looks like the fp30x has a higher speaker wattage, and it is compatible with Roland's Piano Designer. What is your saying on this? Thank you!
Hi! Brent here! Thank you so much for the kind words! We're glad you liked the review. There are a lot of similarities between these two options of course, but if you don't mind the portable piano aesthetic of the FP30X, I believe it is the more feature rich and sonically superior option. :)
@MerriamPianos does it have exactly the same action? fp e50 vs fp 30x ?????? what you think about old action Ivory Feel-G vs pha 4??? thx
Hi! Brent here! The FP30X and FP-E50 both use the exact same PHA4 action. In terms of the debate between the Ivory Feel-G and the PHA4 action, it all comes down to subjectivity. Personally, I prefer the feel of the PHA4, but I wouldn't say that it is by a huge margin by any means. They're both quite rewarding to play!
You are amazing ❤
I'll be sure to pass on the kind words to Stu for you! :)
@@MerriamPianos Thank you 🤍
Hi. I have a Roland fp30x and with the factory pedal the dp2, it works perfectly when using piano sounds. But when I want to use piano + String, using the dual function, when I use the sustain pedal the String sound notes become very long and they mixed together and the performance doesn't sound good. How can I correct this?
Hi! Thanks for the question! Unfortunately, there is no real way to adjust this other than changing the blend volume and experimenting with different string patches that have less prominent sustain.
@@MerriamPianos but I tried the dual mode sound Piano + String in the Yamaha p125 / p225 and you dont have this problem with the string sound when you pres the pedal
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A very beautiful piece of music, indeed! :)
Hello, I just entered the digital piano market, thank you very much for the videos. I wanted to ask, do you consider the Roland Go: 88p a good option? . Here in Mexico, the Roland Go 88p to the Roland FP30x is usually double the price. And I wanted to know if it is worth saving a little more and making the expense or is it a good option to start.
thank you for the videos
Hi there! You're very welcome! The Roland GO88 is a nice travel companion, but the PHA4 action of the FP10 and FP30X provides a far superior touch that would be more appropriate for serious piano studying/practice. :)
I didn’t get the headphones remark. Should I get one these headphones with cable. I cannot use wireless ?
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Wireless Bluetooth headphones are not viable options for use with digital pianos. This is the case with all digital pianos (not just the FP30X). For this reason, wired headphones are still required. Thanks and hope this helps! :)
Hi! I am trying to find how to use this keyboard as a midi controller while at the same time have it as the audio output of my DAW and simultaneously not hear the internal sounds of the keyboard. Right now when I am playing a VST form Ableton I have to hear also the sounds of the piano so its a bit frustrating. Is there a way to silence it while using its speaker?
Hi there! Thanks for the question! This thread from Reddit should be helpful:
www.reddit.com/r/piano/comments/125tc8n/disable_roland_fp30x_key_sound/
If you use it at home only. Does the FP30x give the same work as the HP704? Or is the difference big?
They are quite different. They have completely different tone engines and actions, so the playing and sonic experience is drastically different. :)
I could not tell the difference between the first 2 patches of the piano sounds, but I could tell the third one has more bass. I didn't like the bright 4th patch of the piano sounds though, I prefer deeper piano sounds.
That is certainly fair. Every player will have their own personal musical preferences of course. :)
question: would a professional piano tuner pass the fp30x for concert hall recital? my experience of digital pianos is not good when it comes to tuning! it sounds slightly flat to me in the higher range?
I think digital pianos are generally well tuned but lack the "stretch" tuned into acoustic pianos. That's why I like Pianoteq Pro. Every parameter of every note can be minutely adjusted. I play my DGX-670 in tandem with Pianoteq Pro and have sharpened the treble of Pianoteq to coincide with a one of the Brahms variations on a theme by Paganini which has a very wide spacing between the bass and treble. It's in noticably detuned in the treble which gives it the authentic sound of an acoustic which is not perfect. If digitals have a fault, it is they tend to be too perfect, somewhat like canned food. Piano tuning is an art as well as a science. In the 60's when I was at the University of Colorado, they always claimed the human ear likes to hear a piano the is slightly sharp in the treble. I think that's what you are experiencing.
in this digital age i dont even know why this is a thing! thanks for your reply@@JoeLinux2000
That would be a question for a professional tuner of course! With that said, digital pianos "benefit" from the ability to achieve absolute "perfection" if desired when it comes to intonation. I put those words in quotation marks because they are highly subjective and not necessarily the desired result for those that are accustomed to the imperfections of an acoustic piano experience. To that point, many digital piano manufacturers strive to capture the little nuanced imperfections of an acoustic piano to create authenticity.
thanks for your reply! fyi - i did employ a piano tuner for my rd800 (individual note tuning being a feature!) - he stated that the samples would not allow him to tune it to the perfections he required. it took about an hour and he did make it sound so much better than factory default tunings! @@MerriamPianos
@@JoeLinux2000 FP30X is supposed to use stretch tuning. But some people may not like the way it is. I don't believe it can be adjusted.
When you say you can throw a three way peddle on this, does Roland have one of those you'd recommend or is there a third party option you would choose? Thanks to anyone who can answer :)
Yes - Roland has a specific triple pedal system designed for the FP30X: the KPD70 (which attaches to the KSC70 stand).
@@MerriamPianos Thank you! V excited to get this piano it sounds superb.
Do the updated FP-10 ACR! it’s from Costco and has 128 note polyphony. Was $550 including stand, bench and headphones
That is certainly quite a good deal. With that said, there are some limitations. The FP30X has a better speaker system, more features, and triple pedal capability. :)
Too ghetto
I am also getting it. It is a great deal in Canada too. It has, as you said, polyphony of 128 and a few different tones, comparing with FP-10. Thank you for bringing it up. By the way, I got my first FP-10 three years ago and now I am coming back full circle after quite a few digital pianos, including FP-90X and Yamaha P-515. I practice three times a week on Yamaha C7 so I just need a simple digital piano for some learning at home.
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Hey Stu, great review and nice playing. Can you check this for me? I always wonder why did they abandoned the sustain pedal effect? As you know, on an acoustic piano, when you hold down a note, it is NOT the same sound as when you do the same with the sustain pedal down too. Do you hear a difference on this FP30X? I have a FANTOM8 workstation and this is NOT implemented! Same sound holding a note as with the sustain pedal down! Even if this is to save memory and samples, it should be so easy to just implement a gated reverb that is triggered with the sustain pedal and when you release the sustain pedal, the reverb cut off. I did a hack on my FANTOM8 with a sustain pedal with 2 wires, one on the sustain input jack and the other to CTRL1 pedal input with a reverb programmed BUT when I let go the sustain pedal, the reverb stays! Better than nothing anyway. BTW I'm also a piano tuner/tech.
Hi, Brent from Merriam Music here! That is a very interesting and nifty trick! I certainly know what you mean. There are some nuances that digital pianos have not quite been able to capture faithfully to that of an acoustic piano. With that said, higher end models with more sophisticated tone engines and resonance engines are able to achieve a higher level of detail in this regard. Thanks again and happy playing! :)
@@MerriamPianos BUT I already have the FANTOM8 Roland's flagship workstation and I can't seem to find any adjustment/tweaking to achieve this. When the firsts big machine came on the market in the 80s - 90s like Kurzweil, Fairlight, PPG, Synclavier, etc. all their pianos had that feature. Why did it disappeared? I will give my FANTOM8 another try to find something I could tweak to achieve this sustain pedal sympathetic strings resonance.
Hello stu
Stu I keep seeing/hearing what these pianos can connect to a computer but what does the computer give you ..am so out dated I have no clue ????? Where can I learn about this
Hi! Brent here! Connecting the piano to a computer allows you to use it as a MIDI controller and control other virtual instruments and sound libraries. :)
Hi Stu, you mentioned the new type of grease that is being used and how it's applied. There are countless discussion boards that the keys start to "click" after 6 months to a year. Have you found that to be an issue or has it been resolved with this new application method?
Hi! Brent here! I can confirm that this fix seems to have resolved the clicking key issue with the PHA4 actions. :)
Hi Brent, thank you for the reply. The clicking issue has been my only reservation to the Roland with PHA4 action.
@@MerriamPianos Thanks, Since when was this fixed? How can I tell If I'm going to suffer from this on a newly ordered fP-30x?
Im playing mainly on headphones and am looking for a nice deep bass. Would you recommend the FP30X or the Yamaha p225?
Personally, I find the FP30X to be the all-around better option, but it really comes down to a matter of personal preference in terms of touch and tone. I find the FP30X to have a more balanced piano tone and a more authentic feeling action.
@@MerriamPianos thanks I was 90% sure on the Roland and you've confirmed it for me after numerous reviews thanks!!!
Do this piano produce a very qentle and subtle hum from the speakers when turned on?"
Hi! Brent here! I have found the onboard speaker system to be extremely quiet on the Roland FP models, including the FP30X. :)
Hi Stu, may I ask something. If I use vst, can the sound be played directly using fp30x speakers? Tq
Hi! Brent here! Yes - that is possible with some pianos that have a USB audio interface, including the FP30X. Thanks and hope this helps! :)
are you able to have different tones added through a computer?
You can't add them to the onboard tone engine, but you can use the FP30X as a MIDI controller to control VSTs and sample libraries on computers/devices.
@@MerriamPianos does the fp30x always play the tones built in or are you able to mute them? I’m trying to use it as a midi and add different pad sounds using a music software
Will the FP 30x be getting an "EX" update with some of whatever they just did with the RD 88 EX?
We have not received any notice from Roland on that front yet, but we will certainly keep you posted if we do. :)
Maybe its a personal preference thing, but Stu seems to gravitate towards the roland brand keyboards i notice.
Yet its been said that the Kawai mp11se has the closest accoustic feel and sound to a real grand piano.
If that is true, why doesnt Stu gig with a Kawai? Is it the Roland is lighter and more portable? More reliable? Im just curious?
This is a very good observation! When choosing an instrument to gig with, there are a few things that need to be balanced and mitigated. Portability is unquestionably one of them! I know Stu is a big fan of the PHA4 and PHA50 actions. He ended up trading in his RD2000 for the FANTOM-08 model due to the impressive feature offering of the FANTOM-08 as well as the portability it offered. It is substantially smaller and easier to transport than the MP11SE and RD2000 models. For players that don't mind the extra size and weight (or the ones that are fortunate enough to have roadies/crews to deal with it), this won't be a major concern. It all comes down to context ultimately! :)
@@MerriamPianos Thanks for that insight. 👍
what keyboard is he pulling out the action is that a digital hybrid ? 😮🙌
Also
Ate FP 30x speakers facing down ?
Great pianist Tsu 🙌
Hi! Brent here! That would be a Kawai GL10 acoustic grand I believe. And yes - the FP30X speakers are down facing. :)
Hi, do you find anoying that basicly everytime you play a bit stronger the keys are clicking like a mouse button? Basicly this piano checks all the boxes I need for a very cramped space (have about 30cm of depth space). But the clicking...oh man. Is there anything else on the market that is of similar quality (less then 30cm depth, can record audio, has good feeling keys, doesnt have to be piano hard, just good feel and good sound)? Thanks for all your videos, been looking for quite some time now and still cant decide.
25years of piano playing experience, having to get rid of my old petrof upright piano for a small sub.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Mechanical key noise is a byproduct of any heavier, fully-weighted action. Unless you are playing with the volume set extremely low (10% for instance), I personally don't notice any key noise. With that said, there are some lighter or more cushioned actions on the market that have less key noise. The Casio PXS5000/6000/7000 models are quite quiet for instance, but they are also much lighter touches with dual sensors that lack escapement simulation. It all comes down to a matter of personal preference and taste of course. The best bet is to test out pianos in person to see which one you connect with the most. :)
@@MerriamPianos thanks for the vwry quick response, pxs5000 is the one I was eyeing for that price range, just need to test it. Keep up the good work 🙂
Does the keys felt heavier on the lower octave and feel lighter on higher octave?
Yes - the FP30X's PHA4 action is grade-weighted. :)