Anthropologist Debunks the Paleo Diet
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- Christina Warinner, Ph.D., of the University of Oklahoma debunks the paleo myth in her presentation at the 2016 International Conference on Nutrition in Medicine. Learn more on the Physicians Committee website: PCRM.org!
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What is certain is our ancestors did not eat industrial liquid vegetable oils and large amounts of sugar.
Exactly. I haven't watched video yet but my first thought is how can you "debunk " a natural , unprocessed whole food diet? Is basically how everyone ate before mass production and fast food chains when there was practically no obesity and heart disease and much lower cases of cancer, migraines, allergies, to name a few.
But without the grains. I didn't realize gluten and beans were the cause of my stomach bloat, allergies and headaches till I went Paleo. So again, how can you "debunk" science -based facts where most if not everyone has same results.
Exactly..
Do we didn't eat fruit, and vegetables mostly sugar
You are right. They didn't eat dairy either.
I'm basing my health journey on the blue zones. The blue zones have been studied in real time with no guessing on what they eat or don't eat.
Mainly plant based with very small amounts of meat on special/celebratory occasions.
No sugar, no wheat, no dairy.
Whole food carbohydrates like potato, sweet potato and rice with lots of veges and salad.
This has been very healing for my autoimmune disease.
@@michellehashish5341 yeap they eat most of there calories from carbs so eat ulimate fruit, vegetables, and rice calories
We have to be the only animal in nature that doesn't know what we should eat
I don't think any animal know's what it _should_ eat, but they all know what they _want_ to eat. Humans are just intelligent enough to over complicate things.
@@MrC0MPUT3R no , many animals have in built systems, complex needs that support whole chains in ecosystems.
We seem to fuck up the world by our social structures creating needs beyond a subsistence circle of life type thing.
Humans are searching for smthg, some kind of transcendence that other animals font
@@69birdboy Cool. Next time my dog eats chocolate I'll just remember that he's got a complex ecological reason for doing so.
The reason for this is that we have become SO diversified in our diet, that there is no single answer. We are an opportunistic species without a specialty.
@@MrC0MPUT3R You seem to be confusing domestic pets with the millions of other living creatures on Earth that know exactly what to eat/drink in order to survive.
The reason why some are opposed to this clean way of eating is because they’re all addicts - a subtle (almost unnoticeable for some) addiction to processed food, sugars, fast food, etc. They can’t grasp the idea that healthy food is medicine, and sometimes the things that don’t taste so great are way more beneficial.
The debate is about what constitutes healthy food, or more specifically, the debate between eating meat and eating plant. Personally, I think a person could likely do well eating either or both, as long as highly processed food is generally avoided.
why would bad tasting food be good? your body literally does not want it. stop listening to other people and listen to your body
@@shellderpmakes sense. I'm assuming you don't salt or season your meat right?
Something else that I suspect was part of the "paleo diet" was periods of starvation.
fun fact: your diet matters little, if you fast regularly. Even if you only eat McDonald's trash, you would still improve in health, if oyu fast like 2-3 days a week (water only)
@chris evans in my current financial situaiton, i cant necessarily decide what to eat. THe decision is often "do i eat those cheap sausages OR do i eat this rice that has no minerals?" -For my current situation, regular fasting just makes more sense than whipping myself like a catholic, for every little bit of poison i eat.
@chris evans thanks, but i dont share this white-shaming culture. After all, the poverty and riches of whatever country, have to do with the machinations or their lack of, by the "elite" individuals AND the local social-political bullcrap going on.
Starvation then and forced fasting today to mimic the past…🙃
you mean "intermittent fasting"? Boy have I got a diet for you...
She says we don’t really have any adaptations to consuming meat and talks about our digestive tract being so long but fails to mention that our colon and cecum is so much smaller than that of our ape cousins. Also, isn’t it possible that we don’t have teeth like carnivores and claws like carnivores because tools and fire have been used for over a million years?
But we have brains that helped create technology such a methods of cooking, and utensils that make eating meat AND legumes. You cannot eat raw legumes, you cannot necessarily eat raw wheat grains.
she didn't mention our stomach acid PH either. as low as 1.5. Very useless or even counterproductive when it comes to digesting most plants
What's your educational background?
@@melissabrock4114 why does my educational background matter?
@@lukebroadus1816 I mean, do you know what you're talking about enough to be arguing against someone who's studied over a decade on this subject? Or did you just watch a few RUclips videos about it?
"We are omnivores-thank you for attending." 👏👏🎬
What is certain is our ancestors did not eat industrial liquid animal produce and large amounts of industrially grown meat.
What is industrial liquid animal product?
@@leavesofchange milk
@Lucas Schult An interesting point
A note to clarify one point, the FORTRAN program in the ethnography book is on Hollerith cards which were invented in the 1880's, long before IBM was founded. Cheers from Canada.
She debunks an industry trying to make money on the "Paleo Diet".. but confirms the basic concept. I think the "Paleo" name only adds confusion to the discussion.. we should just all call it a "Non-Processed Whole Food" diet.
Wonderful idea of renaming the 'paleo' into a by far less testosterone-laden nomenclature. I'm behind it 100%. Then we needn't associate eating with heavy lifting, and we can avoid the Processed Chocolate Cakes by calling them: Chocolate Cake. Done.
I don't think you understand the idea of the "basic concept" of the Paleo diet.the diet's whole premiar to eat "like our paleolithic ancestors" which simply isn't possible.
@@melissabrock4114 I don't think you understand the basic concept of the word "like"... as in "as close to as possible".. sure if anyone thinks they can eat EXACTLY the food our paleolithic ancestors ate.. they are out of luck.. but the idea is to move in that direction.. so whole foods.. not processed.. etc etc... when you say you are debunking this diet you are basically saying (to many) there is no benefit in moving that direction.. when your own talk shows there is in fact a benefit.. so if anything you DO like the general idea, but have issues with the name .. which to me is is just throwing out the baby with the bath water. Maybe the title of this video should be "The Paleo diet.. bad name.. good idea". Or even better "What an actual Paleo diet looked like"... or "So, you think you're eating Paleo huh?" . If calling the diet "Neo Paleo" would make both the anthro and modern nutritionist happy, I am all for it ;-)
@@digdugd oooh Semantics...my favourite!
The funniest Paleo dessert recipe I've ever seen is for a chocolate raspberry paleo tart.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 it's so much bs
Did you find that using paleo wifi?
S O N J A It is! Pure marketing hype!
Starchivore88 😆
@@starchivore2317 🤣🤣🤣
"advertising is very focused on masculinity, lots of meat"
yea, woman eat carots
She fails to separate her feminist agenda from nutrition science
God told Noah to eat the animals after the flood.
This lady is wrong. Clearly the paleolithic people hunted their prey using their smart phones and then bragged about how tough they were on the paleonet.
So much evidence using brunch selfies.
oooof
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@LIFTING THE VEIL 🤣
this was very interesting to watch and it helped getting things into perspective.thank you!
I feel like people really tend to mix up keto, carnivor and paleo a lot. Like on paleo eating just very greasy and meat heavy . . Some do it, but it is not what it is about. Eating lots of veggies, nutriendense and without isolated carbs like suggar and flours, food addatives as well as avoiding very commen foodsensetivities. The focus on meat is on high quality intead of quality and adding organ meat for their high nutritional value.
Advisory On Moose Liver and Kidney Consumption
The Maine Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife and the Maine Center for Disease Control and Prevention recommend that the liver and kidneys of moose not be eaten because of possible contamination with the heavy metal cadmium. Several states, Canadian provinces and Scandinavian countries have issued similar warnings.
While cadmium may accumulate in the liver and kidneys, there is no known health risk from eating the meat of moose or deer. Air pollution from copper and nickel industries and from the burning of fossil fuels accounts for much of the cadmium deposited in eastern North America. Cadmium is ingested by moose with their food.
Maine health officials recommend that deer liver consumption be limited to 0.8 pounds in one sitting and 1 to 1 1/3 pounds per week. Human symptoms of acute cadmium poisoning include severe nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, muscle cramps and salivation.
I just eat the veg I can grow. So during the winter and spring, that means meat eggs and dairy only. Veg only in it's season. Seems like it's doing me good so far.
I second this. I feel like her understanding of paleo and primal is very superficial, and she just picked the worst parts she could find, that definitely not everybody follows.
@@Richardj410 Now do the same research about Husky liver or seal liver.
Guess what, eating too much liver could literally kill you. What a surprise.
@@spacemeter3001 an oversimplification.
Super fascinating! Thank you so much for sharing!
so basically, we ate Meats, Vegetables/Grains and Fruit and not pancakes, cupcakes and pound cakes
Agree. Nor chemically treated bacon.
And they only lived until 40, dying from heart and circulatory disease.
@@jlmur54 That is false, and the way you get that number is by subtracting childhood death with the average lifespan. (ex. a family has 2 brothers that are born, one dies at birth, the other one lives to 100, average lifetime for them would be 50) Heart disease/circulatory disease is virtually unheard of even in todays untouched tribes that still eat the human diet, aka raw meat. Look up Dr.Weston A Price here on yt ( search for Weston A Price old footage)
Keep an open mind and don't shut this information down because you "feel" it's not right.
@@saradomim and the Inuit still die early because of their diet.
@@jlmur54 no. Modern inuit die because of their diet because they are eating modern western foods. As early as the 1870s they were using flour and other gains and sugar in their diets. Previous to that they ate almost exclusively high fat meat and lived long healthy lives.
27:50 how did she just deny the whole existence of coconut and palm fruit?....zero chemicals or "industrial processing" is required to produce unrefined palm oil, a staple in the West African diet for countless generations
“No one has eaten more meat than a Lion”. I think she don’t know who Sv3rige is 😆
sverige still eats fruit. He does it in a couple of his vids, because even he realises that humans can't live on raw meat.
@Red October and your not a little bitch for talking shit about Lucifer on youtube instead of saying it to his face? XD oh man i love the comments section. Sverige is not a violent guy and you can have a conversation and he will actually act like a decent human being most of the time. at least he doesn't get violent.
So Sv3ridge is eating between 25 to 43 kg of meat a day? 🤪 This just shows how completely clueless you folks are.
@@jackieOAT to be fair mate they don't eat every day, when they eat that much they won't eat again for days or weeks
@john m - this is a quote from the study you linked: "It is therefore very difficult to estimate which [explanation] accounts for the pattern observed in bulk Neandertal bone collagen.". Very different from your statement. No need for name calling.
Great and very informative talk.
Orchis mascula or the early marsh orchid has an edible root from which a food called salap or salop was made from it.
Sahlab/sahlep/salep may be the better spellings
Not only mascula but many other old world orchid roots are used like militaris(genus orchis)
"Reprogram your genes. I guarantee, no one can do it for you." What do you mean by that? I cna agree you can't change your genome, but changing gene expression is perfectly valid. There is a whole branch of science who research this and it's called epigenetics.
And you think Dr. Warinner is naive to epigenetics? I didn't think so. She was being humorous with her statement about reprogramming genes, I thought it was funny anyway!
Epigenetics does not change your genes. I guess you have a different definition of reprogram. Because I take reprogram to mean change your DNA. Which isn't a thing.
that's what I said when she said that. She just dismissed a whole branch of science
@@Preservestlandry you can reprogram your computer without changing the CPU or any of the circuitry inside. You can change how it functions. You can't change your genes but various environmental factors including sleep and diet can indeed change how they function
@@Preservestlandry I never said epigenetics change your genes. But it can and will change your gene expression.
very very good ...finally got answers to many questions !
Thank you for the content, please leave links to sources where possible in the description box,, that would really help💚
Yesterday i had great paleo protein bar with my raspberry shake, ofc paleo frendly
Michael Eades says there is a basis in the archeological record. He shows research using stable isotopes, and cites the Cassidy Study (1980 Nutritional Anthropology), and also extensive study of Egyptian mummies and their cardiovascular disease that comes from eating mostly wheat. I would like to see some side-by-side research that compares Warinner's hypothesis with Eades. Seems like you can cherry-pick any research to match your bias.
You posted this a year ago and you have yet not seen the video you replied to?
For one I'm not sure Egyptian mummies are the best to compare as there was a lot of incest involved which would've severely impacted the health of the mummies when they were alive. So not a good comparison.
@@grisflyt Here is some real science on the Paleo diet: ruclips.net/video/qn5zdWucv6I/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/3fewDdSUSwg/видео.html It is the second video.
@@itzakehrenberg3449 I'm on keto. I don't eat cereal, vegetable oil, fruit, other than avocado, tomato, olives. I do eat some strawberries when in season with whipped cream.
My point is not that I disagree with OP, but that the video isn't about those things.
@@grisflyt The second video I linked above does talk about these things though.
What wild plants did pre agricultural humans eat in order to provide enough calories to function? Especially during ice ages lasting tens of thousands of years. This talk makes no sense.
Yeah,I did not get past the intro. Her squeaky dry voice and complexion told me exactly where this talk was going to head. We are not vegans,never were,and cannot be in a natural world. Most verieties of fruits and grains are less than 1000 years old. The originals were very small,hard to harvest and less sweet. The people of south america had corn,but it was small and hard.
One vegan told me that northern Europeans survived off nettles, dandelions and acorns
The point is that they aren't interested in truth, just scoring debating points
@D C feel free to list what plants we ate in the forests of Europe, especially from October till may
I loved the talk. Thanks!
Length of GI tracts:
Humans: 20-30 feet long
Lions: 20 or so
Wolves: 20 or so
Cows: 23-over 40
Stomach PH
Humans: 1.5-3.5
Wolves: 1-2
Cows: 5.7-7.3
Our teeth are different because we use tools to kill and cut up prey. Why do so called doctors and professionals ignore this?
We're not eating grass. Of course we're not like cows.
@@Preservestlandry We aren't designed to eat plants. Period.
The first minute: she finds herself great...you can skip that. You’re welcome
No kidding. Really enjoys her own resume. Then her snarky sarcasm got to be overwhelming.
I believe it's called "presenting your credentials" - by telling us her (impressive) qualifications and experience, we can then decide how much weight to give to her findings (as opposed to, say, opinionated anonymous online know-it-alls, including myself). You're welcome (o:
so if the plants were so unpalatable - did we eat more shore food? Claims, seaweed, fish, and tubers?
And animals, birds, eggs...
Yes
Very interesting, thank you 👏👏
except it's all wrong
@@greenfield1944 in your brainwashed flat earther brain it is yes :D:D:D:D
Eat whole foods, prepare them properly where need be, and vary it up.
Замечательная лекция!!!! Спасибо большое!!!!!
I enjoyed your lecture and learning. Looking for more of your lectures! Thank You
5:10 wait, is she's literally saying that epigenetics does not exists or matter? It's not about changing your actual genes, but changing how your genes are expressed
I was shocked by her saying that as well because it has been found that environmental factors, diet, exercise things like that are able to influence how genes are expressed. So the fact that she negates the ability to turn genes on or off makes me weary of believing everything she is presenting.
@@xmissxvictoriaxSame here I was shocked by what she said. She wants to explain us that the paleo diet is a fad diet but she doesn't even know than a diet (among other things) can modify the expression of our genes.
I'm glad that others noticed this too.
@S. Giles I find it a weird lecture because there are not so many year round available fruits and vegetables in nature. Even today the last hunter gatherers rely a lot on meat.
I think they're irrelevant to this discussion, epigenetic processes are not fully understood, and people claiming that eating a specific way will change them in a specific way is surely false. Beyond this, epigenetic change due to any other factors is kindve irrelevant to the discussion of diet.
I have the U5b2 genotype. The same as Cheddar Man (caveman) paleolithic era. Didn't his diet consist of seeds and nuts, red deer, aurochs (large wild cattle) along with some freshwater fish. Isn't that a paleo diet? Isn't that what my ancestors survived on for thousands of years? They were hunter/gatherers, not farmers. I've never tried a paleo diet, but I think I'm going to because I just found out I am histamine intolerant and most of the foods I've been eating are causing me great distress. No more tomatoes, spinach, aged cheese, citrus, yogurt, chocolate, wheat, sauerkraut, etc. - all the "healthy" foods I love.
How did you find this out? What test you take?
@@mattkeene1188 If you're talking about the U5b2 genotype (mtDNA), I did genetics testing. My son also did testing with another company that verifies the genotype. If you mean how I found out I'm histamine intolerant, I have a long history of symptoms, plus there was a genetic health assessment for genetic conditions in the genetic testing. I don't know what other genetics testing companies do a health evaluation. I used CriGenetics, my son used 23andMe (They do a health test but I don't know if they test for histamine intolerance). You could call the companies and ask. I hope that helps.
Excellent presentation! Watching it for the third time!
@Chief - I don't think you got my point... My point is look at the science. Should I look at uneducated opinions on internet coming from people for whom the best counter argument is an ad hominem attack?
She's a lying propagandist. This talk is a disgrace.
Fantastic presentation..!
Im surprised with this comment section. Please re-watch this presentation without your anti-vegan or carnistic bias. I’m reading people being angry about claims she didn’t even make and she is not advocating a vegan diet. Her only point with this presentation is to show that the marketed paleo diet is not paleo and the problem is much more complex. Just because your beliefs are challenged does not mean they are wrong. Go investigate fairly with a mind set of learning instead of trying to prove yourself right. For the love of all that is good listen fairly to what people have to say and stop imposing your inaccurate beliefs on others to feel good about yourselves 🤦🏻
well said
Well, I will only guess that a lot of people came here with their excess baggage of prejudice.
When she did not discuss N15 from the get-go, it was hard to take her seriously as an anthropologist. When you look at the studies showing Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens having higher N15 levels than wolves, foxes and hyenas, and even the anthropologists who did the studies don't seem to make the connection that humans were more carnivorous than these canines, it makes you wonder about the curiosity of these scientists. How can you look at these numbers and not draw the obvious conclusion that we humans are first and foremost carnivores?
@@davidgmillsatty1900 Good point
@@seaslob2820 It's like they can't see the forest for the trees.
Fun fact: many people today have crooked teeth and overbites due to thousands of years of eating softer more processed food. Over time our jaws grew shorter and wider.
" wild birds lay small eggs that are hard to predict " You can set your clock on the date and time wild birds lay eggs.
Very interesting ! The point you make about wholefoods and diversity in the diet rings very true. Thank you for this video - it really makes me think about what I eat and what form I eat it in
This is really informative
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From this video, the point is that there is no one correct diet for everybody. We are in heavy food processing right now,and the paleo diet is a good idea. However, each person has his own uniqueness, so the diet that suits everyone is also different. We should learn how to find the right diet for ourselves.
Great breakdown of information. I wish everyone would see this video!
So I was with her at the beginning, okay archaeological records, measuring isn't accurate and the veg we cultivated are the ones we ate...but then she shows that we couldn't really eat those veg in large quantity and that they where unpalatable. Then she moves on to rediculous claims, true. And the rest kind of went off on a tangent.
BUT was highly entertaining, no? I did find her comparisons of processed packaged 'paleo' to be clever and amusing. She needs to move off paleo, and back to her scientific research eh?
actually what she recommends we eat, at the end, is what most people identify as a paleo diet (a whole foods, natural products, diet).
Almost true, Paleo advocates could based on this information include whole grains to their diet and still be considered on the “Paleo diet”.
ya - its more the philosophy , and assumptions behind the paleo diet that are in error. The diet itself is far from unhealthy
No what she said was that we are plant and fruit and seed and tuber eaters like other primates. Humans are not omnivores like raccoons or carnivores like cats. Humans are frutarians
@@pinkiepinkster8395 very funny comment. if you have any clue about biology you immediatly know the human digestive tract resembles that of a carnivore (looking the same as a cats gut)
Also, one thing I want to add and it seems it's something a lot of people don't know is that herbivores like cows (and also primates like gorillas) feed from bacteria protein and fatty acids.
They don't get nutrients directly from plants. They eat plants/fiber to feed the bacteria in their gut, and then the bacteria multiples and the fermentation produces fatty acids and that's what they truly eat, a high fat and high protein diet from the bacteria, which is an amazing system very different from ours. And that's why they have big bellies, for fermentation.
Humans don't work that way anymore, we have to get it from other animals.
She disproves her own point by stating that much of the vegetation we eat was once largely inedible and nutrient deficient.
🤣 "congratulations, you played yourself"
And it's still a mistake to eat it.
That was an amazing presentation! Mind blown🤯
I'm not really done a paleo diet, but as fare as thought your trying to pin down the diet, but ends up confirm what i've read was the base of it. No refind and processed food (like sugar) Omnivores eath what they find, but i also beleave there are some consensus about human eating all the big game until there where almost none left..?
I agree that true paleolithic diets were varied globally and over time, but I think we should still look to the past for inspiration and guidance, and eat more primitive foods, and primitive processes like soaking, drying, grinding, cooking, fermenting.
I hope she is as critical of the modern food industry and our industrialized diet as she is of the paleo-diet. Does she propose the same corporations that made us sick, now make us well?
Perhaps we need fewer people. Hopefully we won’t solve that problem with corporations.
She keeps saying "meat meat meat" when the truth is: 2 million years fat-adaption.
AMAZING conference !
How to up gut microbiome diversity?
Eat less industrialized(=sterilized) food?
step two: avoid antibiotics, including antibiotic residue in the meat you consume.
step one: be born to a mother whose microbiome was not already reduced from antibiotic exposure.
There are probably things you can do to partially restore lost microbiome diversity, although I have not read much about that. Perhaps you could take probiotics, or get a fecal transplant (I know, ewww!).
Don't drink tap water
avoid antibiotics whenever possible, so avoid meat.
eat fiber, this keeps your microbiome happy, eat more fiber, most westerners are undereating, NO MOOOORE (not all at once!) (seriously, build it up slowly & wash your legumes)
and of course, eat a variety of different food to get the most out of them (WFPB)
drink more water to help you with the fiber
after these three steps, add probiotics like sauerkraut etc. there are nutritionists & docters on youtube that have video's on this including links, like 'Pick Up Limes' & Nutritionfacts.org
@@michaels4255 I would take a fecal transplant from a truly healthy young human any day. No 'ewww!' about it. This material will be the most sought after on the planet one day very soon, if it is not already. Irreplaceable, irreplicable. 'Natural' healthy humans are very hard to come by.
(In many cultures eating sh_t in 'yellow soup' and similar was not unusual for people with certain diseases. Dogs and many other creatures eat feces. There must be some benefit - expanding our microbiome diversity is extremely important.)
This is a clickbait title.
Excellent presentation and done with a good attitude.
she presented carefully selected evidence to present her case and says some things that are purely wrong, she says humans would eat small game and organ meat, why would they throw away the rest? we do in fact have evidence of humans hunting mammoths, maybe even to extinction. She is also advocating as an European, what I assume to bunch of Europeans to eat plant-based, would like to see what kind of local plants and fruits do the Scandinavians or other northern populations eat during the winter.
I live in norway, and no way I would be able to rely on plants during winter, lol I prefer meat.. my chickenns and rabbits do well on what can be found here:)
where i live they also ate other humans, it was widely done. and known. so you would have been on the menu. stone tools no metal. and this was only done away with fairly recently.
@@Ganpignanus i don't see an issue, concerns about cannibalism are mainly ethical not nutritional. I would probably eat a person too, in medieval Europe it was popular to consume human organs as medicine as well.
She clearly described the Vikings and other Northern Europeans as milk drinkers and alluded to fermented milk products (and fermenting in general for a wide variety of cultures) . . .thus keeping cows (duh) through the winter, creatures who helped keep them warm in turn. Certainly in Winter inhabitants would kill and eat what they could, and in Summers the lingonberries (or their progenitors) were eaten in turn. Please provide the evidence that somehow humans 'ate' the path toward Mastodon extinction. That's a lot of poundage to chew through.
Admittedly, all sides can and seem to cherry pick in presentations similar to this one.
For me I found many of her modern day food comparisons absolutely hilarious (and compelling). Smart chick. I am sure she has moved on from debunking paleo, back into her natural realm of deep, thoughtful science. I appreciate her cavorting around in modern culture however - refreshing!
AND refreshing for her to summarize that we need to be adaptive in our consumption strategies, and eat a wide variety of food stuffs for optimal health (no bandwagon for her).
Someone mention she is not 'fit' looking, like a paleo eating physical trainer/lifter. It's true. She is a brainiac researcher - this does not happen in the gym.
@@eugeniebreida1583 it has been a long time since I've watched this, at what point does she mention Europeans eating meat in winter?
Humans arriving at mammoths locations coincides with them going extinct at those locations and it wouldn't take much, since they already had a low population.
Wow! Fantastic podcast! Thank you so much for this wonderful and enlightening info!
Isn't high levels of quality vitamin c (as well as other vitamins) found in the liver and other organs of many animals? chriskresser.com/natures-most-potent-superfood/
I'm an Inuit (Eskimo) man and my ancestors
almost exclusively ate meat. Vitamin D was found in fish and seal fat. We ate most of our foods (including red meat and fish) raw and somehow managed to survive in the harshest inhabited environments on earth. If we couldn't eat and thrive on raw meat than I couldn't possibly exist.
We don't have huge canines because we've never used our teeth for hunting. Our teeth however are very well suited for eating raw fish and meat, I know because I've eaten many wild foods raw and it's not difficult to chew most of them.
There are 7.8 billion people on this planet, all who came from ancestry from many different groups from different places. We are not all the same so why would we assume most people should eat the same things. We wouldn't expect polar bears to eat the same as brown bears would we?
you are absolutely right, I just eat meat as long as iy has lots of fat.
Fascinating.
You are so right. Humans evolved in many different environments and adjusted to the foods available. My paleolithic ancestors lived in Europe at a time when the climate was cold and vegetable matter was scarce. If we had not adapted we would not have survived. Now, if we're going to assume humans were ever full vegans we'd have gorilla-like stomachs to hold the amount of intestine needed to digest large amounts of plant matter.
I have hunted in the MacKenzie Mountains and in the Northern Rockies. If we were dumped in there at any time of the year with no food, any human on earth would want meat rather than eating the weeds or fir and spruce needles. There would no other choices.
We are the only animals that are perfectly evolved for throwing spears, sticks and rocks. We have more sweat glands than any other mammal which helps make us perfect distance runners, a trait that only makes sense if we were persistence hunters. The ability to run extremely long distances at moderate speeds is not useful for a herbivore. Humans need to consume fat and protein in order to survive, we don't need to consume carbohydrates. Our bodies can synthesize the carbohydrates we need. Our brains need omega 3 in order to fully develop, which is found in high levels in many animals. It's not very easy to find omega 3 in fruits, vegetables and grains. I could go on and on showing evidence that we evolved to eat meat because we evolved to eat.
What is certain is our ancestors did not ingest inorganic metallic iron filings "fortified" into foods, nor did they have inorganic copper and inorganic iron in birth control pills and falsely called "placebos."
Nor were we as depleted in magnesium and ceruloplasmin-bound copper.
Search "Morley Robbins" for more information.
Why do we have to supplement more on a plant vs. carnivore diet if we are evolved more to consume a plant based diet?
Great speech. Ok, now it's time for my XXL cheeseburger 🍔 and my gallon of ice-cream 🤣😂🥱
When did she advice you to eat that?
@@EmilEngholmSrensen you missed the joke
I'm a Medical Anthropologist and there were good points along with important data points left out here. I would say epigenetics should have been discussed in the beginning. The archeology record does show hunter gatherers were on average taller, had better teeth and much less evidence of infectious disease than agriculturist societies. We also have Neanderthal fossilized poop that shows a diet that was around 90% meat. Humans are definitely evolved to be hunter-gatherer omnivores. Also there is no hyper-masculinity shown in the ads just masculinity and I do like eating a big pile of meat myself but I want my fruits and veggies along with it! The diversity of whole foods is definitely important and our industrialized food production over focus on limited items being concentrated into much of the food that many people are limiting themselves to is producing bad results along with all the environmental constimination from pesticides, pharmaceuticals and other chemicals that are being detected in our water supplies, rivers and oceans.
Well said, moderation is the key.
"We also have Neanderthal fossilized poop that shows a diet that was around 90% meat.". no it just shows that he eat a lot of meat before pooping. we don't know how often that happend.
I love this. Thank you for sharing.
Did our ancestors lift weights 5 days a week though... Lean meats, and eggs are working great for me.
They just ran dozens of kilometers a day and risked their lives on a daily basis to hunt enormous wild beasts with tools they made themselves...
Fantastic Lecture! Thanks for sharing this.
Alright, I like the level of detail she's giving and I find her presentation more convincing than the usual of this type. But I have a lot of questions. One is, if only the elite amongst the Maya were allowed to consume animal products, what does that say about the value of meat?
I'm also wondering why she says we have a plant-adapted gut based on its size when the size of our GI is more comparable to carnivores than it is to our nearest primate relatives.
The value of meat came from it's rarity and it's difficulty to process, where as plant agriculture you can keep all of your food in one place and not have it run away from you.
Shes wrong on the gut part thats been debunked time and time again. Meat in eastern european cuktures was a staple, not a luxury.
With all the information she's puts out somehow it still seems biased and doesn't convince me. No matter how you slice it or dice it the Mediterranean Diet seems to be the most optimal for humans and stats prove it.
In regards to the thought that human GI tracts are closer to carnivorous - On average, carnivores have a GI tract length of 3-7 feet. Herbivores have a length of 10-12 times the size of their trunk. This easily put them above 10-15 feet in length and most times, more. Looking at humans, our GI tract is 30 feet long on average. Simple Google search to find this info. This instigates that we are natural herbivores, not carnivores.
Not to fight on this, it's just the facts and I'd be sad if you went your life telling others that our GI tracts are that of a carnivore, when they factually are not.
@@kaminski1ayla surely this has more to do with the ratio of gut length:body mass than absolute length
A few major holes in her assertions; firstly that we're not designed to eat meat, yet we have four organs purely for digesting fat, our stomach acid is stronger than most carnivores and nearly as strong as scavengers, and the length of our GI tract is far closer to a carnivores than even apes.
Then for the hunter-gatherers data, saying its heavily skewed to the artic regions doesn't address that nearly all of the other hunter-gatherer societies still follow similar diets; Hadza in East Africa, Batak in Asia, Piraha in South America, Spinifex in Australia. Regardless of continent, hunter-gatherer societies still live on mostly meat, milk, and if they can find it, honey.
Nuts and seeds have fat.
Our stomach acid isn't very good, it doesn't digest bones like a cat.
This is an amazing video. Thank you for posting this.
2:20 Since when are the Vikings considered pre-history?
Haha I stopped right there! If 1400-1000 years is pre- history then you gotta wonder when history began! In a historical view the vikings are modern! I’m fifty five, 20 old farts like me after each other and you are in the era of the vikings!
I don't know. But while we're discussing them, I wish I could consume all that milk they supposedly thrived on. These days it causes cardiovascular disease. Bummer for me.
right, I'm sure the Masai were drinking milk long before them, and ancient Israelites were already dreaming about milk and honey
There was no debunking here .
Only a rant that loops back leaving an open suggestion that paleo and other natural food diets are a better option that what we are mostly offered.
Or that *actual* paleolithic people didn't eat the present-day versions of farmer foods like yellow bananas, or modern-day broccoli.
Super eye opening ... Thank you kindly 😁😊
Awesome talk! Thanks
We never found a cave painting of a salad
Very interesting presentation! I wonder whether many domesticated crops resemble tropical plants. For example the thickness of broccoli may resemble big shoots of many tropical plants (for example giant bamboo). Furthermore I compared the caloric density of domesticated bananas with chimpanzee staple foods (a species of figs; Ficus sycomorus) and found that it is apparently very similar. Insects as food also always fall under the table.
Our modern crops definitely are a lot different than the ones we grew 1000 years ago, even 100 years ago. Ancient grains had much more fiber and protein in them than modern varieties.
@@leftyfourguns Thanks for commenting. It is true that our crops are very different. Though my claim was that by changing them they became more similar to our food 100k-s or millions of years ago in the tropics.
Yeah no one is walking past a steak to get at a potato.
I am. And have been for 2/3 of a century.
just one straight question without any studies - why it can reverse diabates, if you have an anwer go ahead
Diabetes is caused by intramyocellular fat. (fat In muscle tissue)
If you want to prevent diabetes, eat low fat.
If you want to reverse diabetes, eat low fat.
In other words, plants prevent diabetes, while fattening foods such as meat cause it.
@@anarchy7741 Wrong. Diabetes is insulin resistance which is caused by eating high amounts of sugar and no fiber to cushion it for the liver, which ends up causing inflammation to the liver and pancreas, which controls insulin. Eating a high fat diet and eliminating sugar reverses diabetes. Diabetes is a "mismatch disease." Humans don't need any carbs to survive, actually, since we can convert protein to glucose via a process called neoglucogenesis. A low fat diet can actually cause a lot of harm and deficiencies in the body.
@@RachelKreynin
Ha.
You don't even understand the mechanism....
@@anarchy7741 no sis you dont
@@karga9014
When you eat carbs, the carbs turn into sugar (glucose)
In response to this, the pancreas secretes insulin.
The insulin joins together with the glucose and enters the muscle cell.
If the muscle cell has to much fat, the sugar cannot get absorbed.
This makes the pancreas secrete excess insulin.
So if you remove the fat from the muscle cells, the problem goes away.
What about Weston. A Price? Were just gonna ignore all his work?
Yes.
That’s what I was thinking he did long study of communities
@@edwards1148 On their dental health yeah sure lol
@@ApexRevolution yes he did, he was a dentist
Paleo was a diverse list of foods availble at diffdrent times throughout the year.
yes including humans flesh, dog flesh and rat flesh. meanwhile the actual civilized humans of the time did not eat flesh.
@@Ganpignanus The elite have always eaten meat, while the slaves and farmers eat grains.
@@Ganpignanus sounds disgusting but at least you can digest it and it would have no effect on you, other than supply you with essential amino and fatty acid
That goes for 99% of animal muscle. Now go and try some random berrie hanging on a tree. Please do so bro.
Excellent presentation. Thank you for sharing it.
I think scientists are missing the point of the Paleo Diet.
My belly from 91 cm to 76 cm . I was hopeless on my belly fat that sticked like giant super glue and in fact eating fat and low carb plant makes me lose it in 2 months
Yeah but the vegan experts say you are doing the wrong thing. Aaahhh hahahha. Mate, LCHF, is the best.
@@fit_by_fifty The only thing that results in weight loss is a calorie deficit. For a lot of people, eating LCHF works as it cuts out a large amount of foods they find highly palatable (eg fries, sugary foods, pasta) which means a lot of people can eat these foods ad libitum and find themselves in a caloric deficit. Actually, studies have shown that a high carb low fat diet is best for weight loss when directly compared to LCHF where food intake was not restricted. I recommend Ben Carpenter, a non-vegan, who reviews studies such as these.
@@lizzie9052 I have had a bit of a binge on Ben's videos. He has over 18k subscribers and gets less than 1000 views per video he posts. Suggests his subscribers don't want to watch his videos. For a fitness coach that looks that good, suggests his content is not informative. Which I agree.
Ok but she's talking about what prehistoric man ate. Of course anyone can lose weight by eating less junkfood.
Very informational. I like the simple, clear style and mentioning different studies and facts.
Thank you for this video.
Now please say what they ate in the Winter when there are no plants
Nuts like acorns, tubers like cattail and carrot, seaweeds, dried berries, seeds like pine nuts and wild grasses, there is a lot of food out there if you know what you're looking at and where it's found.
Animals
Also potatoes and other root vegetables.
@@SI-ln6tc Potatoes came from South America after 1500, but there were other tubers that they ate, such as beets and turnips.
@@cuscof2 Beets are about 430 kcal per kg, turnips 290. Nothing like modern, high-calorie tubers.
Wonderful. I knew about some of this, but she expounded upon my knowledge and gave some of it better context. Kudos on a great presentation Christina. Top notch. A+++ 👏🏼👩🏽🏫⛏️ 🔍🦴🌿
Great presentation? Did we watch the same video. She um said ah so many ums. She averaged an um every ah 2-3 words. Um, it drove ah me crazy.
I do have one question: how in the world did we decide to eat some of these food that clearly had some trait against us eating them like carrots and almond. Was it just a trail and error situation 😂
When food is scarce, you are forced to experiment. Even today, if I fell out of an aeroplane into a strange country, I would eat tiny amounts of unknown foods, see if I have any reactions, and if not, try more. Now put this simplistic idea into the very smart brains of hominids, who have evolved the ability to identify and then modify a lot of dangerous looking things using their taste, smell, and visual senses (add in a few deaths here and there) and you begin to grasp how ALL creatures survive ;)
@@argosz8046 makes sense but in the example of the carrot which was toxic and now is a staple. Like why a carrot? Or were we able to eat it in small amounts making it a delicacy and made us slowly breed out its toxic component because we wanted more of them
Interestingly, many fruits and vegetables contain natural toxins to keep animals and bugs from eating them, although in the amounts usually eaten by humans are not dangerous. Certain beans can kill you if you eat enough of them raw and we all know about mushrooms. Learning which ones to eat I guess has been a long human endeavor.
Over time, your body builds a tolerance to them. If you’re not used to it, you will have a reaction at first.
Starvation and hope
Has she ever considered our teeth lost the carnivore structure due to the invention of fire. This made chewing meat easier and could have affected our teeth structure over time
You're Amazing
So what does she eat? She looks like she's in phenomenal shape!
Sure, I watched Dr. Wahls discus how she walked back her MS through a Paleo diet focused on the nutrients most beneficial to the mitochondria, but this lady has a lot of credentials... So forget real world application and achievement.
Either it works for you or it doesn't. I'm guessing the people who strongly disagree with the Paleo Diet haven't tried it and followed a structure. Personally, I find people who lead by example are usually the people to best to take a chance on.
Also the "Physician Committee" is a non-profit research and advocacy organization based in Washington, D.C., which promotes a plant-based diet, preventive medicine, and alternatives to animal research.
Convenient a anti-meat consortium of "intellectuals" would strive to make a case against a diet structure that promotes eating meat??? Sounds like their findings will always find an angle to promote eating a plant based diet.
@@matthewmacinnis4163 exactly!
So paleo era people didn't eat? Probably she should give her version since she dug up the teeth etc.
Can someone sum this up? Thanks!
Bullshit
Good point re trichrome vision around 9:12
No, we developed our vision for green and for traffic lights. Duh . It is a good point but totally made up.
weak argument... blood, camouflage, tracking... under a lot of stress (think hunting or so) we are only able to see red... maybe to be able to pick red peppers while we run around after prey
Great talk! Bottom line: “Paleo Diet” isn’t science. It’s a marketing strategy.
@@robinbreeds9217 no it didn't from farming
@@hanssmith8901 Farming to blame for our shrinking size and brains
They discovered that some 10,000 years ago however, size started getting smaller both in stature and in brain size. Within the last 10 years, the average human size has changed to a weight between 154 and 176 pounds and a brain size of 1,350 cubic centimeters.
While large size remained static for close to 200,000 years, researchers believe the reduction in stature can be connected to a change from the hunter-gatherer way of life to that of agriculture which began some 9,000 years ago.
by Deborah Braconnier phys.org/news/2011-06-farming-blame-size-brains.html
The Paleo Diet is certainly far superior to the SAD and as well as some of the other trendy diets. However, it is too restrictive.
Right.. marketing... Look at that nice apple on her mic stand.. subtle but paid for...
@@kegeshook1734 or GAPs Diet
There is so much information out right now when it comes to nutrition and diets that it is just confusing.
Can one way of eating be best for all? I am not sure.
I think each one must find what suits them best.
I am not a fan of the keto diet, however people have managed to get their MS in control by eating keto, it is also said that it helps people with diabetes type 1. So it seems to be helping when it comes to autoimmune illnesses.
Then again other studies claim that too much meat can cause inflammation,heart disease etc.
What is correct? Maybe depending on what our body needs and what actually makes us healthier is what we should do.
I don't know what to believe anymore.
So fantastic lecture almost content surrounding food to people evoluting I am happy I can listen this special show in Taiwan from the video
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Wonderful lecture. This is the way to make me commit to life long learning. Hearing how lack of water in the diet can unexpectedly skew data towards a carnivorous result was a real eye opener. And although Christina didn't mention it, I'll bet the fact that our Paleo ancestors just plain starved a lot had an out sized effect on their health.
Eat enough animal fats and you dont need a lot of water... What kind of plants would be available for everyone you think?
@@Goldenhawk583 What do you mean? Fat is fat and water is water. They are 2 completely different things.
@@hieuphungminh6690 if one eats enough animal fats, there is water in that and in meat, sp the need for water goes down a bit, it doers not disappear.
If one then do not eat fiber, one can avoid the need for huge amounts of water, just to flush those fibers through without getting constipated.
@@Goldenhawk583 There is definitely not enough water in fat to sustain yourself just from fat or even mostly from fat. You are just wrong. Also the process of breaking down the protein from meat and lipid from fat use A LOT of water. So the more meat you eat the more water you have to drink.
@@hieuphungminh6690 uhm.. your need for water is reduced SOME... Not completely.. if you dont believe me.. try it for a while. But you must avoid all kinds of carbs and fibers for that time period ofc. Since I only eat meat.. and since I dont need more water, but less, I know for a fact you are wrong.
And no, the body breaks down meat very easily. Easier than any other substance one might consume. The same with good quality animal fat. Plant oils would not be the same, and would harm you.
"And so I am done!" love it.
Christina Warinner, gotta make a mental note of that name because this lady is just inspirational! also can we please include her name in the video title?
This is my first time hearing about the paleo diet. This was very interesting information for me, thank you for sharing it.
Very interesting and informative presentation.
I keep trying to find "the least common denominator" from all the information on the proper human diet I have studied over the years. I keep coming back to unprocessed whole foods as the foundation for what we should consume. I like the diversity aspect of these foods rather than permanently eliminating so many foods and trying to live that way. Foods like olive oil although processed via machinery are not what I am talking about. I am talking about seed oils (Canola), processed grains, "natural flavors", refined sugar, high fructose corn syrup, etc when I say processed foods.
Something that was not mentioned were times of no food and the effect of that. Personally I believe in intermittent fasting for better health.
The problem with these ancient ancestors, was that none of the fruits and vegetables back the were sprayed with pesticides like today's, found in grocery stores.
I think you and I are on the same page. It has to be unprocessed whole foods. That diet has healed me in incredible ways. I am strict with it, but the results closed down my 'home pharmacy' that western medicine planned for me to be on the rest of my life. I have no symptoms and need no meds as long as I eat unprocessed foods!
Also include homogenized milk,…. and from my experience also pasteurized (but not as bad as homogenized milk). Raw dairy is best cultured/fermented at ambient room temps. Raw milk can be left to sit indefinitely at ambient temperatures,… and it's still good; it gets acidic, salty-ish,.. makes good salad dressing.
Exactly my methodology as well. And, I have been whole food plant based for a few months now.