Studio tour! Studio tour! Pleaaase, we want to see the gear you‘re using, it‘s about time! With a brief explanation of which stuff does what for the folks just getting started. Would be really nice man!
I don't know why you bother with this fancy Mac Pro, my Tascam 4 track cassette recorder I got at a flea market for $20 can do just as good of a job...just ignore the buzzing sound
4 tracks were more than enough for The Beatles. 'nuff said (I still have my portastudio. It made a good mixer for live instruments into a computer when I had a band.)
@@NeilParfittMusic 35 bucks?! Jeff Bezos better be careful or else he might become *only* the second most rich man of the world. Ps: Love your vids man…………and your cat is cute.
I met one composer who did the unthinkable - He switched DAWs because he preferred Windows. Back in the era of VHS and Laser Disk, that composer was very frustrated with Logic on a Mac. Emagic tech support suggested that he use a PC instead. That solved his problems. Then when Apple dropped PC support for Logic, he switched to Cubase so he could stay on Windows. I would like to talk to that guy now in 2020 and see if he's still on Windows. I think it was Danny Lux who I met.
The first copy of Logic I had was brand new version 2.5 (midi only) for around $1000 in August of 1995, I carried that big book with me for a year :). In 1996 I upgraded to Logic Audio via the Yamaha CBX-D5 (4 tracks!), and it was a revelation. I had to buy the Logic audio upgrade software “module” and a special software "module" for the CBX too, which totalled another $1000 or so. I believe the bulky metal 1GB scsi drive for audio was $800.00. And of course later on we had the XSkey, where all the Logic instruments were authorized and sold separately, the first being the ES-1 and then the EXS24 - which was miraculous... I remember the first time I was able to load an AKAI disc on it, I couldn't believe it! Not long after I sold my Akai 3000. So many memories, remember the early quirks of virtual instruments, that they couldn’t have loops or aliases ? Ignore the silly hater comments btw, these videos you've been making re the Mac Pro have been a lot of fun.
@@peterbondmusic ok - answer me this... do you recall dumping all the factory demos to some sort of PCM converter thing connected to your VHS or Beta deck? If so that was me who bought it! hahah. That was my first Workstation :)
@@NeilParfittMusic I had a Betamax Deck with a Sony PCM-701 which I used as my "worktape" because it was so much cheaper than using DATs, which I only used for final mixes lol. It's gotta be me... crazy!
Perfect kick-in-the-teeth video for them trollish cretins who insist you’re but a mere music/sound tinkerer. Love ya, man. Hope you keep giving us glimpses into your world.
This is a great video Neil, really appreciate the quality of education and how your content is very different from what is out there - you are the kind of professional Mac enthusiasts love to hear from ! Thanks
You are awesome dude, love your stuff! I hope you keep making more videos. I love to gain new insights into professions like yours, it's so cool to learn about new stuff.
Thanks for another very enjoyable video Neil :) The only differences between your story and mine is that I'm quite a bit older than you, so the first computer I ever bought was a Mac. This was mostly because I grew up in an era when computers either filled rooms or later, were for very clever people who did 'coding' stuff on their ZX spectrums and BBC micro's. Nerdy friends told me I might, just might, be able to figure out how to use a Mac, and as all I wanted to do was to explore this new-fangled internet thing, and maybe, if the stars aligned, send an email, that was fine by me. Mind you I didn't actually know anyone who had an email address for a while, and it was a good few years before I was daring enough to actually open the case and peak inside!! Secondly, while music is my passion, it doesn't pay my rent, so some years after my first Mac purchase, it was a revelation to me that a home computer could actually be used as the hub of a modest home recording studio, I mean without having a university degree in either computer science or audio engineering. I got some freebie version of eMagic Logic with a cheap PCI AD/DA & MIDI card (no kids I didn't forget the 'e'!) and spent about a week trying to figure out how to hook up my JV1010. It's hard to convey just how revolutionary the entire idea of recording music to a computer was to kids who have grown up on Garageband and the many PC equivalents. It must seem like some unimaginable dark age to them.
Back when every manufacturer had their own clock synch protocol and you had a room of samplers, synths and tape machines to keep playing nice with each other.
Same story here! Logic Pro has always been a great music production tool, strip silence back in 1999 was awesome for chopping up beats etc, way faster than an Akai S1000!!!
You're a great presenter! Really enjoying your vids as an audio hobbiest and a use whatever fits your computing needs guy (er IT pro / McDonald's professional).
You forgot to mention that when Apple made Logic Mac-only they made the price very cheap and we are getting huge updates for $0. Great insight into the early days of Logic.
That's an interesting point -- Apple made it easier to swallow the switch to the Mac because the cost of buying Logic upgrades (and Final Cut, for that matter) went way down.
Hang on, wasn't Logic Studio 8 still about $850 or so? I seem to recall paying almost a thousand dollars for version 8. It came in a big box set which I still have. I wouldn't call that cheap exactly but I don't remember what the market was like at the time so, comparatively speaking, it might have been "very cheap" as you say.
Fantastic video! Really look forward to your videos. Hope to see a workflow video soon. Thanks for all the hard work... Also, you should totally sell shirts like that. hahaha!
Before Apple bought eMagic, Apple rescued Opcode (from Gibson, IIRC) and the guys who made Galaxy, StudioVision and OMS helped create the CoreAudio engine for MacOS. Big win in my eyes and ears. Has always seemed a more elegant platform for music than Windows for me.
This has been a really interesting series and a damn fine way to spent part of my Sunday. I love that you've made a shirt that mocks a salty troll and taken everything in stride. My kinda dude. Take care.
I abandoned Logic a few years after Apple bought it and I couldn’t run 5.5 anymore (it had bugs on multi core chips and it probably didn’t work on windows 7). I tried Live, I tried Cubase... but ultimately I was happy to return to Logic in 2014.
People have no idea the costs of "Professional" tools. I remember having to buy Maple for my Calculus class in college. I got the student edition... It was much cheaper at the time, but not as full featured. The full version price tag was eye watering at the time. And of course, this was in 1998 where a mid-tier PC or Mac could be well over $1500... And forget laptops with their $2500+ price tags... Oh, and folks need to adjust for inflation when comparing those prices to computer prices now.
+1 For thee TDM Mix Plus reference! I can still remember Being told about the new "TDM Mix Cubed" Oh... how advanced those systems were. I do miss being able to use TDM cards (DAE) with Logic.
Dude I started on SoundForge on PC! first audio card was a Digidesign audiomedia III card (mix system days). time = money, some people don't get this. all about workflow!
the funny thing about that AM3 card was it gave 8 tracks in protools but logic could do 16 using DIO. I had that and a DC30+ capture card to get video on a TV monitor during the early music editing days of Protools.. Yuckkkkk.
I won’t even begin to tell u how cool I thought I was sequencing shyt on my Aptiva (IBM/PC) using Cakewalk Pro, my Echo Gina Soundcard & my Roland Edirol Sound Canvas Midi modules in 1997 (1st week audio engineering) 🙄🤦🏽♂️ So Fawwwking GLAD THEY introduced me to Digital Performer then Protools.
No troll here. I actually have used VHS and DVDs. Maybe that's why my comment will be a little bit more mature than some of your others. Glad to be here learning a little about what your professional workflow is like. Definitely enjoying the humor along the way.
Would be interesting to see a calculation how much you would have saved in hardware over 20 years switching to another DAW and staying on windows and compare it to the losses you would have had with the time lost in relearning and things like the big windows xp to 7 audio driver messup, when they changed the entire audio subsystem and made asio drivers hard to implement.
Nice serie of videos... Nice review of the new mac pro, i personnaly regret the price...was hoping for a under 3000€ for it....so i'm in pc train but real good hardware for AV guys!
Great video! I think I first bought Logic at version 6. Cost like $1400, then spent another $300 for the EXS24 and another $500(!) for Space Designer. I'm still using Logic and have done thousands of sessions with it, and actually haven't had a crash in years. I can still even open up those old sessions from back in the day. Usually takes a bit of work and not everything works 100%, but it does open. Another thing to point out about the difficulty of switching DAWs is that in the case of the old-school DAWs at least, OMF NEVER worked right and exporting all tracks as audio was a major PITA (this was before Logic's "Export All Tracks As Audio Files" function), so if you wanted to switch AND keep your old sessions, you either had to spend weeks exporting everything, or pay to have both DAWs. Both those options suck.
Jacob Silver you’re absolutely right, I had a friend working in Nuendo/Cubase and I was in Logic... literally never got it to work right, eventually gave up and just exported stems when needed.
I'm a Logic Audio 4.5 head also. I remember using it on my old IBM Thinkpad. But I was an Apple head since 94 when I got a Performa 630CD which had 33MHz CPU and 16 mb of RAM LOL
Sorry for mentioning linux senpia, i kinda thought this would be the answer would be some cool audio support feature on macs or the avid cards not working on other oses.
Hey Neil so happy you created a show. I have a question. What is the best pitch shift plug-in available? Could you give 2 options. And what's the best way to get rid of artifacts in any pitch plugins?
For stereo and multichannel - I still get the best results with Xform. Only problem is, it’s SLOW to crunch through the math :(. Pitch n’ time is supposed to be great as well.
I would like to hear more about why you are using Logic and pro tools simultaneously. What do you use which app for, what does it do better than the other, what can it do that the other doesn't do at all? What are generally speaking the pros and cons of using two DAWs in your workflow? Would it maybe also make sense with Ableton (or any other platform) instead of logic? Thanks in advance, really love your videos!
In an earlier Job I was told that a lot of audio professionals where using logic to control ProTools because they preferred the user interface of logic to the user interface of ProTools. I might be his reason as well.
Story share time. That loss of time and productivity was likely the reason I stopped composing music. I was used to trackers(Amiga and PC) and was not a fan of the slow and cumbersome midi applications. Bars and Pipes on the Amiga and Logic on the Mac/PC were great in retrospect, but I never wanted to write anything on them, though I did mix on Logic PC a couple of times. So I stopped, and in the past years I slowly did a little bit of composing here and there, but I'd always been a sound editor/designer and re-recording mixer by trade, so Protools it was until something better came along. That's Reaper now, and it took me years of working with it on the side on hobby projects to mold it to my desire, including getting some automation functions implemented by the developers with the help of many more users in the community. Getting them to do "Latch Preview" took years, but now I'm a happy camper and a high-speed user on both Protools and Reaper. I find it hard to just learn an application. I have to use it, and that's painful at the start with lots of time(and thus money) lost.
_Switch to Linux, you'll only have to switch out all your software, relearn everything, and end out with the exact same experience you already have!_ I mean, every *Windows* user needs Linux, but OSX on the other hand doesn't really have as many disadvantages compared to Linux.
@@NeilParfittMusic I think you are confused. Having said that what part of the Layla 20/20 ran hot according to you? Did the Gina and Darla also run hot? My Layla 20/20 was never hot. I sold it to get the Echo AudioFire 12/12 but never bought it.
Tech TV usa are you talking about about the Layla20 Or 24? The original 20 had a regulator that ran super hot. More often than not it would burn out and the rack wouldn’t turn on
@@NeilParfittMusic Are you basing your conclusion of the Layla 20/20 from practical use or word of mouth? I never read an article mentioning you could fry an egg using the Layla 20/20. I could touch the Layla 20/20 with my bare hands. It was never hot let alone fry an egg on it. I imagine the PCI card would be hotter than the rack unit itself. Having said that electronic components can get hot but it does not mean there will be problems. Tube amps can get hot inside but there is no need for a noisy fan. The components can take the heat. Incorrect impedance can ruin a power amp more than heat.
Tech TV usa practical use - along with a few other friends who had them. We all had regulators that burned out. The units were extremely hot to the touch. Hotter than the Tango24. Maybe you had a later production run after they changed regulator types (which they eventually did). Ans the Layla and Gina 24 series didn’t have this heat issue at all.
Seeing as I think I remember in a past video you said you were located in Toronto and you mention you took Audio Engineering in College. Fanshawe MIA Grad?
Neil Parfitt oh awesome! Had a little inkling after watching a few bits of your vids since the Mac Pro (only discovered your channel from the Mac Pro Rack reviewing). Good times at Fanshawe. Miss those MIA days, also think you may have done a lecture for my 2nd year like 9yrs ago. But cool, glad to see someone who is posting about the Mac Pro in professional use. We get to have look vicariously through you!
Jon it may have been me! The last 2nd year talk I did was 2010. Was Andrea Matchett in your year? Other than that I’ve been giving talks to the 3rd year APP since
@@NeilParfittMusic Ah no, Andrea was the year ahead of me I believe. But I know the name. It's actually very likely you did it during my APP year (now that I think of it) - same year as Scott Hitchon (if that rings a bell)? Seeing as you compose work for video, it fits more that way.
as much as I love windows 7 and 10 I would NEVER use a windows based computer in a live setting, I even dj on a mac mini at home. But in the studio setting (and everyday komputa), it works great. Very stable. Drivers are much better on it now and as long as you use quality hardware the experience is that you can leave the computer on 24/7 for years and it just works. But I do image every month just in case :) That Mac Pro he got makes perfect sense for him. Use what works for you and he could easily sell all the stuff he doesn't need anymore and make the money he spent on the pro back easily.
In the long run I feel it’s a good move. A company designing their own OS and full hardware is huge. But, I wonder how long it’ll take for a cpu to go head to head with AMD etc. Probably why they released the Mac Pro now, as it’s still many years away. I still wish they had done a partnership with AMD though....
Neil Parfitt I think for GPUs, looking at what they are doing with iPad Pro, Apple could make some really amazing GPUs for the mobile and desktop market. I think for the Mac Pro, that will be indeed the last Mac to go to Apple Silicon, but they will keep the extensibility with other GPU makers like AMD, maybe NVIDIA sometime too again. Very interesting times now to see how Intel CPUs are going to compete with Apple Silicon CPUs on the Mac 😀
Personally, even if I would discard all habits, opening old session, or dealing with clients, etc... I would still have a major issue by switching (back) to Windows... that would be my apps & plugins. I have so many of them, I’m not even sure I could have them all for Windows... or nor that the change would be free. Some developers require new licenses for new platform. It’s already a huge PITA when a new MacOS version comes out, that I can’t image the hassle to change platform on top of that. And yes, it’s sad, and I’ve no doubt we can work just as great on Windows if we want... but when you have 20+ years on work on a domain, it’s not easy to change, even if it means to pay (huge) extra cash for the new hardware. (And yes, it really becomes ridiculous now, it’s not just 10 or 20% ‘Apple tax’, but pretty much 50% if not more now... thanks Tim Cook!)
So do I understand it correctly that ProTools and Logic are competitors in the same space, but you are using them at the same time? I am so curious about your workflow!
@@NeilParfittMusic Love Yamazaki. Both 12 and 18 although if I had to choose I'd probably go 12. It has just a bit more bite. How about the islays? Talisker or Bowmore? I've been on the islays kick for the last little while.
@@Screaming-Trees Im not a fan of peaty smokiness... I think that's why I love the Japanese offerings so much - as the flavours are really interesting and there's that hint of caramel in there for my sweet tooth... there was this one Yamazaki I tried that was done in Sherry casks.. so good! The 12 has a lot going on - it was a bit over the top the first time I tried it (client gave it to me for my 40th!) - but I loved it after an hour or so. The Hibiki is nice too. I tried the Hibiki 30 when I was in Japan (checked out the Yamasaki distillery) - it was amazing!!!! And, I was happy day drunk by about 1pm as I was trying all sorts of unobtanium hahaha... what a day that was :) As it's really hard to get anything in Ontario without coming back from Japan with it (or the states)... I usually just settle with makers mark as it's easy and relatively cheap. What's your favs?
With the number of figurines you got there, I'd say you can afford to keep working on a mac
inund8 hah!
Studio tour! Studio tour! Pleaaase, we want to see the gear you‘re using, it‘s about time! With a brief explanation of which stuff does what for the folks just getting started. Would be really nice man!
Ib4 more people discover euro rack
I’m just waiting for a few final pieces before deep dives
I don't know why you bother with this fancy Mac Pro, my Tascam 4 track cassette recorder I got at a flea market for $20 can do just as good of a job...just ignore the buzzing sound
Tom Barber wow and flutter is character man!
Ok, now go gears a living...
4 tracks were more than enough for The Beatles. 'nuff said (I still have my portastudio. It made a good mixer for live instruments into a computer when I had a band.)
McDonald’s professional 😂😂 best shirt ever
forget the mac pro. here's the "Big Mac Pro"
All of his shirts are the best
How the internet changes a man's whole career into a RUclipsr.
Daily Pursuit I’ve made 0’s of $! 😃
@@NeilParfittMusic When you make 1 mil $0.00's, they send you a trophy!
@@fredygump5578 update: I've made $35
@@NeilParfittMusic LOL! Thanks for the update!
@@NeilParfittMusic 35 bucks?! Jeff Bezos better be careful or else he might become *only* the second most rich man of the world.
Ps: Love your vids man…………and your cat is cute.
Where have you been all my life?! I'm so glad to find yo!:Really appreciate that your videos are both content-rich and entertaining.
That McDonalds shirt - I'M DYING.
My 9 year old son absolutely loves your music for Bakugan and BeyBlades.
I met one composer who did the unthinkable - He switched DAWs because he preferred Windows. Back in the era of VHS and Laser Disk, that composer was very frustrated with Logic on a Mac. Emagic tech support suggested that he use a PC instead. That solved his problems. Then when Apple dropped PC support for Logic, he switched to Cubase so he could stay on Windows. I would like to talk to that guy now in 2020 and see if he's still on Windows. I think it was Danny Lux who I met.
The first copy of Logic I had was brand new version 2.5 (midi only) for around $1000 in August of 1995, I carried that big book with me for a year :). In 1996 I upgraded to Logic Audio via the Yamaha CBX-D5 (4 tracks!), and it was a revelation. I had to buy the Logic audio upgrade software “module” and a special software "module" for the CBX too, which totalled another $1000 or so. I believe the bulky metal 1GB scsi drive for audio was $800.00. And of course later on we had the XSkey, where all the Logic instruments were authorized and sold separately, the first being the ES-1 and then the EXS24 - which was miraculous... I remember the first time I was able to load an AKAI disc on it, I couldn't believe it! Not long after I sold my Akai 3000. So many memories, remember the early quirks of virtual instruments, that they couldn’t have loops or aliases ? Ignore the silly hater comments btw, these videos you've been making re the Mac Pro have been a lot of fun.
Dude did I buy a Korg O1/Wfd from you at some point around 94 or 95??
I did sell one around that time... that's kinda wild...
@@peterbondmusic ok - answer me this... do you recall dumping all the factory demos to some sort of PCM converter thing connected to your VHS or Beta deck? If so that was me who bought it! hahah. That was my first Workstation :)
@@NeilParfittMusic I had a Betamax Deck with a Sony PCM-701 which I used as my "worktape" because it was so much cheaper than using DATs, which I only used for final mixes lol. It's gotta be me... crazy!
@Neil Parfitt - Great Video! Thanks. Keep them coming. Watching creative professionals do their thing is great entertainment, and great encouragement.
Perfect kick-in-the-teeth video for them trollish cretins who insist you’re but a mere music/sound tinkerer.
Love ya, man. Hope you keep giving us glimpses into your world.
As an IT Director, I agree you have to use the right tool for the job. This is one of those cases!
This is a great video Neil, really appreciate the quality of education and how your content is very different from what is out there - you are the kind of professional Mac enthusiasts love to hear from ! Thanks
You are awesome dude, love your stuff! I hope you keep making more videos. I love to gain new insights into professions like yours, it's so cool to learn about new stuff.
It would be so great if you continue making videos explaining how big tier sound production works for like regular folks!
Thanks for another very enjoyable video Neil :) The only differences between your story and mine is that I'm quite a bit older than you, so the first computer I ever bought was a Mac. This was mostly because I grew up in an era when computers either filled rooms or later, were for very clever people who did 'coding' stuff on their ZX spectrums and BBC micro's. Nerdy friends told me I might, just might, be able to figure out how to use a Mac, and as all I wanted to do was to explore this new-fangled internet thing, and maybe, if the stars aligned, send an email, that was fine by me. Mind you I didn't actually know anyone who had an email address for a while, and it was a good few years before I was daring enough to actually open the case and peak inside!!
Secondly, while music is my passion, it doesn't pay my rent, so some years after my first Mac purchase, it was a revelation to me that a home computer could actually be used as the hub of a modest home recording studio, I mean without having a university degree in either computer science or audio engineering. I got some freebie version of eMagic Logic with a cheap PCI AD/DA & MIDI card (no kids I didn't forget the 'e'!) and spent about a week trying to figure out how to hook up my JV1010.
It's hard to convey just how revolutionary the entire idea of recording music to a computer was to kids who have grown up on Garageband and the many PC equivalents. It must seem like some unimaginable dark age to them.
Back when every manufacturer had their own clock synch protocol and you had a room of samplers, synths and tape machines to keep playing nice with each other.
Same story here! Logic Pro has always been a great music production tool, strip silence back in 1999 was awesome for chopping up beats etc, way faster than an Akai S1000!!!
You're a great presenter! Really enjoying your vids as an audio hobbiest and a use whatever fits your computing needs guy (er IT pro / McDonald's professional).
Great video, as usual.Thank you for continuing these improvised series! You are my favourite McDonald's professional 🙂.
You forgot to mention that when Apple made Logic Mac-only they made the price very cheap and we are getting huge updates for $0. Great insight into the early days of Logic.
That's an interesting point -- Apple made it easier to swallow the switch to the Mac because the cost of buying Logic upgrades (and Final Cut, for that matter) went way down.
Apple also killed the dongle and got rid of all the itemized costs. Simple. All the instruments. Yay.
Hang on, wasn't Logic Studio 8 still about $850 or so? I seem to recall paying almost a thousand dollars for version 8. It came in a big box set which I still have. I wouldn't call that cheap exactly but I don't remember what the market was like at the time so, comparatively speaking, it might have been "very cheap" as you say.
When Trees Will Rule The World Again If I recall correctly it went to $200 when they went Mac-only? I could be wrong ...
Fantastic video! Really look forward to your videos. Hope to see a workflow video soon. Thanks for all the hard work... Also, you should totally sell shirts like that. hahaha!
Hahaha! I love your videos bro! More story times Neil! You gotta continue this series!
Before Apple bought eMagic, Apple rescued Opcode (from Gibson, IIRC) and the guys who made Galaxy, StudioVision and OMS helped create the CoreAudio engine for MacOS. Big win in my eyes and ears. Has always seemed a more elegant platform for music than Windows for me.
I totally forgot about OMS.. AHHH!! Audio MIDI Setup!
This has been a really interesting series and a damn fine way to spent part of my Sunday. I love that you've made a shirt that mocks a salty troll and taken everything in stride. My kinda dude. Take care.
thanks!
Good to know, that there are people outside like you. Thanks
Space Between I’ve never been outside! I’m in the studi o 24/7! :)
I abandoned Logic a few years after Apple bought it and I couldn’t run 5.5 anymore (it had bugs on multi core chips and it probably didn’t work on windows 7).
I tried Live, I tried Cubase... but ultimately I was happy to return to Logic in 2014.
You are truly a damn gem in this forsaken site. Keep it up!
Love the shirt man!!! This coming from a i9 PC user, DO YOUR THAANG BRO!
I absolutely love these videos, please don’t stop!
People have no idea the costs of "Professional" tools. I remember having to buy Maple for my Calculus class in college. I got the student edition... It was much cheaper at the time, but not as full featured. The full version price tag was eye watering at the time.
And of course, this was in 1998 where a mid-tier PC or Mac could be well over $1500... And forget laptops with their $2500+ price tags... Oh, and folks need to adjust for inflation when comparing those prices to computer prices now.
+1 For thee TDM Mix Plus reference! I can still remember Being told about the new "TDM Mix Cubed" Oh... how advanced those systems were. I do miss being able to use TDM cards (DAE) with Logic.
Hahahaha good to know we started on the same year with sound forge and cakewalk pro áudio!
Hi Neil, I'm great thanks for asking! Hope you are too!
Dude I started on SoundForge on PC! first audio card was a Digidesign audiomedia III card (mix system days). time = money, some people don't get this. all about workflow!
the funny thing about that AM3 card was it gave 8 tracks in protools but logic could do 16 using DIO. I had that and a DC30+ capture card to get video on a TV monitor during the early music editing days of Protools.. Yuckkkkk.
@@NeilParfittMusic i hated pro tools until version 10, but didn't really start to like it again until version 12.
Loving the videos. Would love to see the other side of this video, kinda like “What I don’t like about macs/logic/pt” if there’s anything at all.
Oh man i have a running list 100 miles long
Thanks for the video. Very entertaining. Please keep it up.
Oh my god, please do more! :D
This is SO GOOD.
so that's why you got Doc Brown to give you the flux capacitor!
Loved this video - really entertaining
I won’t even begin to tell u how cool I thought I was sequencing shyt on my Aptiva (IBM/PC) using Cakewalk Pro, my Echo Gina Soundcard & my Roland Edirol Sound Canvas Midi modules in 1997 (1st week audio engineering) 🙄🤦🏽♂️ So Fawwwking GLAD THEY introduced me to Digital Performer then Protools.
No troll here. I actually have used VHS and DVDs. Maybe that's why my comment will be a little bit more mature than some of your others. Glad to be here learning a little about what your professional workflow is like. Definitely enjoying the humor along the way.
Would be interesting to see a calculation how much you would have saved in hardware over 20 years switching to another DAW and staying on windows and compare it to the losses you would have had with the time lost in relearning and things like the big windows xp to 7 audio driver messup, when they changed the entire audio subsystem and made asio drivers hard to implement.
Nice serie of videos... Nice review of the new mac pro, i personnaly regret the price...was hoping for a under 3000€ for it....so i'm in pc train but real good hardware for AV guys!
I needed this video 2 months ago for a uni assignment
what was the assignment?
@@NeilParfittMusic seconded
Great video! I think I first bought Logic at version 6. Cost like $1400, then spent another $300 for the EXS24 and another $500(!) for Space Designer. I'm still using Logic and have done thousands of sessions with it, and actually haven't had a crash in years. I can still even open up those old sessions from back in the day. Usually takes a bit of work and not everything works 100%, but it does open. Another thing to point out about the difficulty of switching DAWs is that in the case of the old-school DAWs at least, OMF NEVER worked right and exporting all tracks as audio was a major PITA (this was before Logic's "Export All Tracks As Audio Files" function), so if you wanted to switch AND keep your old sessions, you either had to spend weeks exporting everything, or pay to have both DAWs. Both those options suck.
Jacob Silver you’re absolutely right, I had a friend working in Nuendo/Cubase and I was in Logic... literally never got it to work right, eventually gave up and just exported stems when needed.
Boris Blank Approves this Video.
I'm a Logic Audio 4.5 head also. I remember using it on my old IBM Thinkpad. But I was an Apple head since 94 when I got a Performa 630CD which had 33MHz CPU and 16 mb of RAM LOL
Remember Parallel Dongles? EEEWWWWWWWE
I too have a story about why I have a Mac; it's a little sad, but also much more concise: Windows 8.
A little extreme but relatable.
Sorry for mentioning linux senpia, i kinda thought this would be the answer would be some cool audio support feature on macs or the avid cards not working on other oses.
you know I'm poking fun at it all right? There's no hate coming from me at all! :)
People who've worked for a few years in some software will NEVER understand this...
No bs, to the point! Props to this channel
That T’shirt...Bravo!
Studio tour PLEASE!!!
Where did you get those digital date clocks @1:37? Those are sweet!
Time Drive from Back to the Future
Hey Neil so happy you created a show. I have a question. What is the best pitch shift plug-in available? Could you give 2 options. And what's the best way to get rid of artifacts in any pitch plugins?
For stereo and multichannel - I still get the best results with Xform. Only problem is, it’s SLOW to crunch through the math :(. Pitch n’ time is supposed to be great as well.
As for artifacts, after the fact you cant really do anything. You have to choose via trial and error the best algorithm for your audio content
Also - melodyne is amazing for solo instruments with all the added benefits of correction
@@NeilParfittMusic You are the bomb diggdy.. Thanks bro.. please keep the channel going we need you out here.
You are funny. and love how you get back to the trolls. Dan you're creative! Kudos
I would like to hear more about why you are using Logic and pro tools simultaneously. What do you use which app for, what does it do better than the other, what can it do that the other doesn't do at all? What are generally speaking the pros and cons of using two DAWs in your workflow? Would it maybe also make sense with Ableton (or any other platform) instead of logic?
Thanks in advance, really love your videos!
In an earlier Job I was told that a lot of audio professionals where using logic to control ProTools because they preferred the user interface of logic to the user interface of ProTools. I might be his reason as well.
I really like that you’re embracing being a McDonald’s Professional 🍔 😂
Logic so was different back then .
Story share time. That loss of time and productivity was likely the reason I stopped composing music. I was used to trackers(Amiga and PC) and was not a fan of the slow and cumbersome midi applications. Bars and Pipes on the Amiga and Logic on the Mac/PC were great in retrospect, but I never wanted to write anything on them, though I did mix on Logic PC a couple of times. So I stopped, and in the past years I slowly did a little bit of composing here and there, but I'd always been a sound editor/designer and re-recording mixer by trade, so Protools it was until something better came along. That's Reaper now, and it took me years of working with it on the side on hobby projects to mold it to my desire, including getting some automation functions implemented by the developers with the help of many more users in the community. Getting them to do "Latch Preview" took years, but now I'm a happy camper and a high-speed user on both Protools and Reaper.
I find it hard to just learn an application. I have to use it, and that's painful at the start with lots of time(and thus money) lost.
I am watching this nodding all the way through.. though I went the cubase route.
You handle those trolls in a great way! Keep up the good work and enjoy your Mac Pro.
Love the shirt!
_Switch to Linux, you'll only have to switch out all your software, relearn everything, and end out with the exact same experience you already have!_
I mean, every *Windows* user needs Linux, but OSX on the other hand doesn't really have as many disadvantages compared to Linux.
great story! ✨🙌
Great video! Again! Love it!
Early days Logic AND Pro Tools. It was like having both a Yugo AND a Pinto.
In 1998 I had a Layla 20/20 I/O a Pentium II at 266 MHZ and Cool Edit Pro for my DAW. My system rocked!
Tech TV usa you could also cook an egg on the Layla20 - those things ran HOT
@@NeilParfittMusic I think you are confused. Having said that what part of the Layla 20/20 ran hot according to you? Did the Gina and Darla also run hot? My Layla 20/20 was never hot. I sold it to get the Echo AudioFire 12/12 but never bought it.
Tech TV usa are you talking about about the Layla20
Or 24? The original 20 had a regulator that ran super hot. More often than not it would burn out and the rack wouldn’t turn on
@@NeilParfittMusic Are you basing your conclusion of the Layla 20/20 from practical use or word of mouth? I never read an article mentioning you could fry an egg using the Layla 20/20. I could touch the Layla 20/20 with my bare hands. It was never hot let alone fry an egg on it. I imagine the PCI card would be hotter than the rack unit itself. Having said that electronic components can get hot but it does not mean there will be problems. Tube amps can get hot inside but there is no need for a noisy fan. The components can take the heat. Incorrect impedance can ruin a power amp more than heat.
Tech TV usa practical use - along with a few other friends who had them. We all had regulators that burned out. The units were extremely hot to the touch. Hotter than the Tango24. Maybe you had a later production run after they changed regulator types (which they eventually did). Ans the Layla and Gina 24 series didn’t have this heat issue at all.
Seeing as I think I remember in a past video you said you were located in Toronto and you mention you took Audio Engineering in College.
Fanshawe MIA Grad?
Jon yep! MIA 2001.. or 2000... can’t remember
Neil Parfitt oh awesome! Had a little inkling after watching a few bits of your vids since the Mac Pro (only discovered your channel from the Mac Pro Rack reviewing). Good times at Fanshawe. Miss those MIA days, also think you may have done a lecture for my 2nd year like 9yrs ago. But cool, glad to see someone who is posting about the Mac Pro in professional use. We get to have look vicariously through you!
Jon it may have been me! The last 2nd year talk I did was 2010. Was Andrea Matchett in your year? Other than that I’ve been giving talks to the 3rd year APP since
@@NeilParfittMusic Ah no, Andrea was the year ahead of me I believe. But I know the name.
It's actually very likely you did it during my APP year (now that I think of it) - same year as Scott Hitchon (if that rings a bell)? Seeing as you compose work for video, it fits more that way.
Dude you’re amazing. Fuck the idiotic haters! You rock! Loved seeing your setup. Would love to see more of your workflow for scoring.
Also, macOS is trashing Windows on audio latency, the reason sound studios use macOS.
mm not quite - there's a ton of variables with this.
I dropped Logic when Apple bought them. But I was just dicking around and smoking weed not making a career.
as much as I love windows 7 and 10 I would NEVER use a windows based computer in a live setting, I even dj on a mac mini at home. But in the studio setting (and everyday komputa), it works great. Very stable. Drivers are much better on it now and as long as you use quality hardware the experience is that you can leave the computer on 24/7 for years and it just works. But I do image every month just in case :)
That Mac Pro he got makes perfect sense for him. Use what works for you and he could easily sell all the stuff he doesn't need anymore and make the money he spent on the pro back easily.
This dude is entertaining.
I’m not a professional, but my story is similar. Moving to Mac was just the least bad option.
So what do you think of Apple’s move from Intel to Apple Silicon/ARM?
In the long run I feel it’s a good move. A company designing their own OS and full hardware is huge. But, I wonder how long it’ll take for a cpu to go head to head with AMD etc. Probably why they released the Mac Pro now, as it’s still many years away. I still wish they had done a partnership with AMD though....
Neil Parfitt I think for GPUs, looking at what they are doing with iPad Pro, Apple could make some really amazing GPUs for the mobile and desktop market. I think for the Mac Pro, that will be indeed the last Mac to go to Apple Silicon, but they will keep the extensibility with other GPU makers like AMD, maybe NVIDIA sometime too again. Very interesting times now to see how Intel CPUs are going to compete with Apple Silicon CPUs on the Mac 😀
I see the SNES in the background... I'm more interested in your Retro Gaming setup! Any chance of a vid on that?
fubarfubar1977 hah - how to destress after working too much: Dr.Mario!
You are teaching the internet a lesson
Personally, even if I would discard all habits, opening old session, or dealing with clients, etc... I would still have a major issue by switching (back) to Windows... that would be my apps & plugins. I have so many of them, I’m not even sure I could have them all for Windows... or nor that the change would be free. Some developers require new licenses for new platform. It’s already a huge PITA when a new MacOS version comes out, that I can’t image the hassle to change platform on top of that. And yes, it’s sad, and I’ve no doubt we can work just as great on Windows if we want... but when you have 20+ years on work on a domain, it’s not easy to change, even if it means to pay (huge) extra cash for the new hardware. (And yes, it really becomes ridiculous now, it’s not just 10 or 20% ‘Apple tax’, but pretty much 50% if not more now... thanks Tim Cook!)
un capo, segui así!! saludos desde argentina
i spy a snes in the background :) awesome
You should really consider swapping those bracelets for apple watch on each hand to complete your look :P
stereo!
Your shirt is amazing
Do you have a separate Hi-Fi system that you listen to music on?
yep! But it sounds better at the studio ;)
Bravo! Subscribed!
😂😂 “Give me five bees for a quarter”
That was great ... Thanks for the lesson on Logic. :-)
god damn, you are HILARIOUS!
That tshirt was amazing 😂😂
Did you really get a "McDonald’s Professional" shirt made? 😂
Abisanth Yokanathan yep! Muahahaha!
For me it was tape, sdii and vision.
With all of the avid gear you have, I assumed you used pro tools :)
yup - that and logic x
BAHAHAHAHAAA omg just keeps getting better
😄 I remember IRC
So do I understand it correctly that ProTools and Logic are competitors in the same space, but you are using them at the same time? I am so curious about your workflow!
I'll get to it. I Write in Logic and all the deliverables are in ProTools.
GENIUS !
Bigger hair, 20 (or 40) pounds thinner in 1999. Soooo, you looked like Jared Polin?
Hey what whisky is that?
Yamazaki 12 - I'm all out :(
@@NeilParfittMusic Love Yamazaki. Both 12 and 18 although if I had to choose I'd probably go 12. It has just a bit more bite. How about the islays? Talisker or Bowmore? I've been on the islays kick for the last little while.
@@Screaming-Trees Im not a fan of peaty smokiness... I think that's why I love the Japanese offerings so much - as the flavours are really interesting and there's that hint of caramel in there for my sweet tooth... there was this one Yamazaki I tried that was done in Sherry casks.. so good! The 12 has a lot going on - it was a bit over the top the first time I tried it (client gave it to me for my 40th!) - but I loved it after an hour or so.
The Hibiki is nice too. I tried the Hibiki 30 when I was in Japan (checked out the Yamasaki distillery) - it was amazing!!!! And, I was happy day drunk by about 1pm as I was trying all sorts of unobtanium hahaha... what a day that was :)
As it's really hard to get anything in Ontario without coming back from Japan with it (or the states)... I usually just settle with makers mark as it's easy and relatively cheap.
What's your favs?
Nice stick to Logic. Imagine if you were forced to stick to Protools!??