@@Anthony-mh7ixmajority of my setup cost goes into my monitor idk why tf i chose to buy a $300 monitor when i don’t even have a console or pc that can run the HZ it offers 😭
@zippyflamez4597 good headphones deend on the user. If you like warm neutral headphones then sundaras are pretty good, i daily them. If you want something thats more focused on mids with very intimate vocals, yeah hd600s are good
As a music producer, the DT990 250ohm is a great option under $200 with unmodified output for producing. The Sundara headphones are really good for audio engineering.
@heeeeey1121 totally depends what you need them for, airpod max has better anc, if you want that, and is wireless. I'm personally not an apple fan, but, I've heard they're really good. Sound is probably better on the dt990 pro, because it's wired and isn't limited to Bluetooth, and if you compare the noise graph the dt990 is maybe a little better than the airpod max. In short, if your traveling, use the airpod max, cause of the noise canceling and whatnot, and if you aren't as much, use the dt990 pro. That's my opinion though
OoOoh THANK YOU VERY MUCH! , i'm apple fan boy but not rich so i was wondering and now u explained everything about it better than all these yt videos so i decided to enjoy my new dt 990 pro and don't look for any other headphone@@BüstaBab3
fr?, i saw somebody on yt saying is airpods pro sounding better than dt 1990! , i saw a website doing compitition for (dt990 pro vs airpods max) and they said that airpods max sound is waaaaay better so idk eactly who to beleave but at the end of the day dt 990 is fantastic headphone but the main problem is it wired headphone. @@thetshadow999animates9
@@Snxgur Sundara is perfectly average for gaming. But if you want some good headphones that are great for gaming, try the Sennheiser HD 560S, i own one, and i've compared it's gaming potential with the Sundara i daily-drive, and the 560s has very accurate imaging... It has some slight treble peaks too, but nowhere near as bad as Beyerdynamic headphones tend to be, the 560s isn't harsh. :P 560s is like 200 bucks-ish... maybe 180? if you can find them on sale, 100% grab it, it's a steal! :)
It’s not so you can hear yourself. It’s because open back headphones produce a better soundstage which allows you to far easier hear enemy positions and footsteps. The 990’s also are much higher fidelity than your average gaming headphone and are meant to pick up all the sound they can since their original purpose is mixing music.
I have seen this opinion regurgitated so many times. A wider sound stage does not equate to better gaming performance. If anything, too wide of soundstage often makes sounds exaggerated in regards to distance and you often miss key details
Wider soundstage does not help you pin point enemies, its just how far outside your head the sound feels. Hearing accurate positions would be imaging. Sometimes a soundstage that's too wide can mess you up, makes you think the enemy is farther away than they really are. You can have a headphone with amazing soundstage but dogshit imaging.
Great alternatives around the same price tag are the Sennheiser HD560S (dynamic) and the Hifiman HE400SE (planar magnetic, like a mini Sundara). Be wary that planar magnetic headphones will require an amp to sound their best.
No, it's the other way around, Dynamic drivers have variable Ohm, and typically tends to have high Ohm, meaning they're the ones that need amplifiers to perform their best... The 560s is listed as having 120 ohm on the product page, but in testing, the ohm varies from 133 to 224. Planarmagnetics have static Ohm, flat, constant, unchanging Ohm... The Sundara is revealed to have a flat 40 ohm in testing. The higher the Ohm, the harder the headphone is to drive, the lower the ohm, the easier it is to drive. Planarmagnetics are the easiest to drive, as they typically have the lowest Ohm. But Ohm by itself, doesn't matter that much, it's when you introduce driver sensitivity ON TOP of ohm, that things start getting tricky. Lower sensitivity with higher Ohm, means the headphones start getting REALLY PICKY about HOW the audio signal is fed through the headphone... And even then, headphone sensitivity doesn't matter much until it gets below 90dB... And the Sundara is at 94dB/mW... This means at 1 mW, the Sundara pushes out 94dB average volume. Safe long-term listening volumes are at 60-70dB... You're not really ever going to need to reach 94dB volume with the Sundara, so... you will never consume more than 1mW power consumption with, more or less, ANY headphone. So really, you don't NEED amps capable of pushing 1000 mW and stuff, ever... You will only need an amp if you want extra volume headroom for whatever reason... Headphones also get old, and become less sensitive as the membrane ages, or even the coils get worn... In which case an amp might be able to counteract the aging for a while until the headphones finally die. That being said, when it comes to dacs and amps, it's normally the Dac-chip that decides whether a headphone performs its best or not... It's not really the amp. So most people don't actually have to worry about any of this.
@@MyouKyuubi Sorry, man, but you are wrong. The resistance of a pair of headphones isn't the only thing that determines the power it needs. There's a thing called sensitivity that measures the decibels of sound produced per miliwatt. The lower the sensitivity, the harder it is to drive. That's the thing that makes planar headphones so hard to properly drive in spite of their low resistance. The HE400SE is like 91db/mW while a dynamic like the HD560S is 107db/mW (I think). There are headphone calculators online that can give you the required power to reach a determinate volume via the sensitivity and resistance. Look them up, they're really useful. Still, I have to admit I've had the chance to try a lot of headphones recently, and I do agree that planars aren't always more power hungry than dynamic cans. I found out that the HE400SE consumes only a bit more power than the HD560S, and I've also tried a pair of dynamic AKG K612 Pros that consumed much more than the other two. That being said, I still advise against buying any planar headphones if you don't have an amplifier/DAC. It might sound, but it won't sound nearly as good. A great amplifier out there for cheap is the Apple USB C to 3.5mm adapter (15$ish), and it should have enough juice for the HE400SE. Not sure of the Sundaras. So, in conclusion, even if it's not absolute, the bottom line of planars consume way more than the bottom line of dynamic headphones, so I wouldn't risk getting one without a decent amplifier. (Also, a small note here for anyone interested. The power a pair of headphones consume has no correlation to the quality of the sound, it's just an inconvenience derived from the design of the headphones. In fact, I hate the K612 Pros and I much prefer the HD560S over them, even though they consume way more.)
Sundaras are great but both headphones have niches and personally for me that extra top end resonates with me, plus the dt990 has better soundstage and instrument separation which is important in games
the dt990 has almost none of those things, lmao. There's a difference between artificial detail, and real detail... the 990 have harsh treble, which tends to give the ILLUSION of detail, because the details that it CAN display, are literally just louder than they're supposed to be, making you think they're more detailed than thewy actually are. However, the Sundara can point out what people are talking about outside of the recording booth sometimes, that's REAL detail. :P Oh and also, the Sundara is a planarmagnetic driver, due to how they're constructed, the sounds produced from the audio-signal occurs on different parts of the membrane, meaning planarmagnetics have an inherent quality that makes them separate instruments better than dynamic drivers... Due to how dynamic drivers are constructed, all the noises it produces originate from the exact same point on the membrane, causing instruments to blend into each other, and in fact, causing certain frequencies to cancel each other out... Due to opposite movements occurring simultaneously. There's also the fact that planarmagnetic drivers are inherently faster than dynamic drivers, they START a noise faster, and STOP a noise faster than dynamic drivers, giving them snappy, punchy, aggressive sound delivery. Dynamic drivers = Cheap, but good enough fidelity for most people. Planarmagnetic = Expensive, but great fidelity for picky listeners. Electrostatic = Extremely expensive, but legendary fidelity for hopeless audio-junkies. This logic excludes certain hybrid drivers... Like Meze's Isodynamic hybrid-array driver (For the Empyrean line), but generally speaking, this logic applies. Soundstage is about the only thing the 990 may have an advantage over the Sundara in, though i can't confirm that for sure, though it makes sense, as dynamic drivers tend to be frather from your ears than planar drivers are... :P
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As a music proder the dt990 250ohm was and still is my best option for under 200dollars. It offers a very unmodified output that does not exagerate prequencies. Great for prpducing
Oh shit, I was expecting some dumb recommendation of the dot 1990, but that’s actually nice. I wish the sundara would go more mainstream stream people would definitely understand it
@@MyouKyuubi Oh for sure. Cloud III, DT 990, DT 1990 are treble blasters that don't ask for consent. I bought a pair of Skullcandy ANC2 and all other qualities or faults aside, it had smooth dark treble... mmmm... So relaxing and easy on the ears. I got Fidelio X3 and they are also harsh, but not as bad as the treble kings.
@@MyouKyuubi The Beyers have always reminded me of my dad growing up and the way he would EQ the spectrum in his car with 2 12 inch woofers in the trunk... MAX the treble, MAX the BASS, mids become very :( I would always be like dad cool woofers but it sounds like we're 5 miles away from a party and we weren't actually invited, like someone turned on low pass filter... Yeah, Beyers taught me that I don't like BRIGHT headphones necessarily, I like MID FORWARD headphones, like AD2000x, HD 600, and my Ananda Nano has a nice signature too. Do not like the Beyers tho
These used to be high end headphones a decade ago. I got mine in 2015 when they were exclusively Audiophile tier headphones. Now streamers just have them on their heads for video games.
I use the steel series arctis pro, and they sound really good, not open backed but has a mic monitor and there's a sweet setting to hear your voice whenever your mic is on, you can change it to low mid or high, 299.99$ worth it, best gaming headset on the market rn, it's my own opinion, but still a good buy
@@hifivelife5559 and I also had the arctic pros a few years back while Fortnite was big 3-4 years ago for the pros had a pair of Arctis 7s they lasted a year with light use before the power button stopped working
Beyerdynamic released 900 PRO X like 2 years ago. I recently got them and they're freaking fantastic, detailed, more natural sound whithout that unpleasent sharpness, very comfortable and great both for music and gaming.
Sundara is a fantastic choice! They are a bit bright though, not harshly bright like beyerdynamics tend to be, but it can sound a bit airy, but a -2dB EQ in the 6300 hz range should take care of that. :)
Fun fact: just changing the earpads can make a difference. I have the ATH-M50x and the original earpads used to get uncomfortable after long periods. I switched them for these velour pads and not only are they more comfortable, they're more breathable and thus let a bit of sound in.
The sundara isn't ideal for gaming as the center imaging is pretty bad which means you're gonna have issues determining enemies positions when they are in front of you. Good headphones, just not for gaming unless you don't care about competitive gaming.
Most streamers likely put an EQ tune on the headset to make it more tolerable or even good. Also the cushions are probably replaceable which means you could put some very nice cushions on if you wanted
@@jarodfoshey985 599's are great, they just have one downside, they're too thumpy in the mid-bass. Just a single EQ filter can take care of that though. The 560s is a bit sparkly, could be construed as harsh if you're particularly treble-sensitive, and would need a couple of EQ filters to fix, but, it's not as bad as Beyerdynamic headphones, lol. beyerdynamic headphones almost always have bad FR-graphs with WAY too much treble. :P
I have these headphones and they haven’t worn down for me. Have had these for quite some time but they could worn down. Luckily you can replace the head part and the cushions. But they are fantastic.
if anyone here decides to buy the Sundaras, make sure you get the post 2020 version. They revised the earpads in 2020 and they DRASTICALLY improve the sound quality of the headphones
yep yep! I own both Sundara, and a 560s, so i can confirm this! Sundara is better with everything else, but the 560s's imaging absolutely trounces the Sundara, lol. 560s is the best for competitive gaming, 100%! But of immersive and cinematic experiences and music, i'd choose the Sundara. :)
I got the edition xs for 300 from some guy who got a collection of high end headphones, just sitting in their boxes, pretty munch brand new. Heres a massive tip, when it comes to high end audio always gets a used high end one, rather than new cheaper one. If you concerened bout usage, get a new pair of pads, sanitize it. Itll be a 1000x cheaper yet still be better. Other than it not being brand new.
@Njinx_ have it for over a year now. I use it with my fluance rt85n with ifi zen dac 2. It's amazing. Still feels brand new. No creeks or and weird rattle. I guess I pulled the lucky ticket, the previous owner was a collector of headphones, and I saw he had some amazing pairs, all of are still in box or displayed behind acrylic or glass. So mine was on peak condition when I got it. Good luck out there.
Yesssir I’ve been using these for years as they’re the best for sound quality on a budget but at the caveat of having to buy a amp is the only thing. I bought a cheap one and spent like $450 - $500 for the headphones and amp
Also I had to repair mine , a simple fix but some have manufacturer errors that end up having one driver work while the other doesn’t. Still well worth the money after 4 years of use
I hear myself talk using the audio input of my microphone, because my headphones are plugged into it directly there is very little delay so it never really gets annoying
The only good thing about these headphones to me is that it taught me something. I used to say I like "bright" headphones, and the DT 990s are notoriously bright and trebly, but I did not like them much and thought they sounded dark and muddy, the opposite of bright, kinda.. Thus I learned I look MID FORWARD headphones.. The DT 990's are TREBLE FORWARD but with RECESSED MIDS. The bass wasn't anything to write home about either without EQuing. Overall, I prefer just about every headphone in my collection over them, including HD600, AT AD2000x, Grado SR80x (or any SR series), Hifiman Ananda Nano, Hifiman HE400SE (also not a fan of these though, but better than Beyers)
just a heads up for anyone interested, the hifiman he400se can be found at half the price for a sound that's still not quite as good as sundaraz in my opinion, but still leagues ahead of the dt990 pro. there is maybe like the tiniest difference between the two but after trying both i've been using the he400se for 2 years now
My dt990s just came in today and i really like them i do wish the earcups were more of an oval shape like steelseries headsets (i got rid of my steelseries for these because they kept breaking and i heard these were very durable) considering they came out in 1988 i think they are good and i really like the design and the ear cushions are comfy
I will take a page from Crinacle and mention a budget combination that I can vouch for. That is the Koss KSC75 clip-on stereophone (less than AU$50 when I bought it) and a cheap lavalier mic (and maybe a headphone+mic -> line in adaptor). Don't like headbands or headphone dents? Instead of a headband, each driver (speaker) has a rigid arm that goes around your ear like glasses arms - and I can personally say they fit well even with glasses on. Need ambient noise, not sound isolation? Well, due to its design, it doesn't have a seal (each one is a left and right), so it's practical in environments and activities where listening to surroundings is preferable at least, or necessary at most. Worried about lack of bass? Well, there is a lack of sub-bass (the rumbling bass that you feel), but the low bass is present in music tracks with bass. Worried about too much treble? Thankfully there isn't too much treble like the DT990. It's tastefully done. Worried about spatial recognition? Most headphones should be able to do that. The Koss KSC75 is no exception - sense of direction can be emulated according to the game being run. The biggest deal breaker I can think of is a thin non-detachable cable - although it's technically detachable if you use it wrong enough.
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there are so many better open backs that you can get for relatively the same price with a good amount of bass for gaming and you can usually replace the ear-cups for these type of headphones
The main benefit of open back for streamers/gamers is that they provide a wider sound stage and makes it easier to pinpoint audio like footsteps. Open back for streaming mean audio leaking into your mic you should relay on obs or your audio interface
you can turn on mic monitoring on xbox and i’m not sure but i think most pcs have that option too so you can hear what your mic is picking up while you talk
@@Dagwummythe DT990 has a very specific tuning that most people wouldn’t like lol. It’s just way too bright and the midrange is also a bit wonky. The DT880 pro is better in every single way for around the same price if you really want a beyer. But the sennheiser hd560s would probably be a better choice than both because it has a removable cable, sound wise it’s comparable with the dt880. The Sundara is fine but I really don’t trust Hifiman’s quality control more than beyer or sennheiser. There’s numerous reports of driver failures with Hifiman.
@@Dagwummy The audiophiles agree, the Sundara is a fantastic headphone! :) Not the ebst for gaming, obviously, but certainly in the "good enough" category! It's also really good at music, movies and series. :) perfect all-rounder for PC-enjoyment! The Sundara is brilliant!
Popularized by ninja lol They are also reference headphones, so they are incredibly neutral. This can be good for gaming with the right interface. It can drive them as there is no enhancements. However, with a good interface, like an RME, you can tweak the EQ for your headphone output, if you feel like some frequencies are too high given these are incredibly flat give you a lot of flexibility
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@@notzappy they're bad sounding headphones, dt990 are better in every way besides probably the bass but i use the headphones with a sub woofer
@@assloader did you tweek them? in any way?
Me who Can already hear myself talk without any headset: 🗿🗿🗿
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Bro I swear being able to hear yourself talk is way better
I actually hate hearing myself talk
@@jackb7954its weird to not hear yourself sometimes bc its like
Did i say that right?? And u just feel like an idiot in my opinion
On my headset I keep my ear that has the mic on and the other one off
@@jackb7954yes bro whenever I hear myself especially with echo I stutter so mucy
Yeah I have both open and closed… and I prefer open as well! It’s sucks though the closer back are so much more comfy lol
Bros headphones cost more then my setup myself💀
Ur clearly underage and broke.
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Damn homie but the Hd600 still better than these
@@Anthony-mh7ixmajority of my setup cost goes into my monitor idk why tf i chose to buy a $300 monitor when i don’t even have a console or pc that can run the HZ it offers 😭
@zippyflamez4597 good headphones deend on the user. If you like warm neutral headphones then sundaras are pretty good, i daily them. If you want something thats more focused on mids with very intimate vocals, yeah hd600s are good
As a music producer, the DT990 250ohm is a great option under $200 with unmodified output for producing. The Sundara headphones are really good for audio engineering.
DT990s are too sharp and aren't tonally accurate, always use neutral headphones for mixing.
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Headphones with sharp sound= lose hearing while on discord with the boys
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as long as u an audiophile did u tried apple airpods max? is it's sound better than dt 990 pro? , i've dt990pro but i'm wondering about airpods max
@heeeeey1121 totally depends what you need them for, airpod max has better anc, if you want that, and is wireless. I'm personally not an apple fan, but, I've heard they're really good. Sound is probably better on the dt990 pro, because it's wired and isn't limited to Bluetooth, and if you compare the noise graph the dt990 is maybe a little better than the airpod max. In short, if your traveling, use the airpod max, cause of the noise canceling and whatnot, and if you aren't as much, use the dt990 pro. That's my opinion though
OoOoh THANK YOU VERY MUCH! , i'm apple fan boy but not rich so i was wondering and now u explained everything about it better than all these yt videos so i decided to enjoy my new dt 990 pro and don't look for any other headphone@@BüstaBab3
@@heeeeey1121AirPods aren’t even going to touch an entry level HiFi headphone
fr?, i saw somebody on yt saying is airpods pro sounding better than dt 1990! , i saw a website doing compitition for (dt990 pro vs airpods max) and they said that airpods max sound is waaaaay better so idk eactly who to beleave but at the end of the day dt 990 is fantastic headphone but the main problem is it wired headphone. @@thetshadow999animates9
As an audio engineer, I approve. Sundara are really good😊
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not for gaming they are not!
@@themelancholiasusvara suck for gaming sadly
@@SnxgurI mean he said they were good for what he does, he’s an audio engineer.
@@Snxgur Sundara is perfectly average for gaming.
But if you want some good headphones that are great for gaming, try the Sennheiser HD 560S, i own one, and i've compared it's gaming potential with the Sundara i daily-drive, and the 560s has very accurate imaging... It has some slight treble peaks too, but nowhere near as bad as Beyerdynamic headphones tend to be, the 560s isn't harsh. :P
560s is like 200 bucks-ish... maybe 180? if you can find them on sale, 100% grab it, it's a steal! :)
It’s not so you can hear yourself. It’s because open back headphones produce a better soundstage which allows you to far easier hear enemy positions and footsteps. The 990’s also are much higher fidelity than your average gaming headphone and are meant to pick up all the sound they can since their original purpose is mixing music.
But it got no mic
@@boʻŕèðbuy a mic? you can buy mics cheaper than the headphone and it will still sound better than built-in headphone mics.
I have seen this opinion regurgitated so many times. A wider sound stage does not equate to better gaming performance. If anything, too wide of soundstage often makes sounds exaggerated in regards to distance and you often miss key details
Wider soundstage does not help you pin point enemies, its just how far outside your head the sound feels. Hearing accurate positions would be imaging. Sometimes a soundstage that's too wide can mess you up, makes you think the enemy is farther away than they really are. You can have a headphone with amazing soundstage but dogshit imaging.
@@sauce8767 Thank you! So many gamers don't get this.
Great alternatives around the same price tag are the Sennheiser HD560S (dynamic) and the Hifiman HE400SE (planar magnetic, like a mini Sundara).
Be wary that planar magnetic headphones will require an amp to sound their best.
Finally someone with head on spot.so many way better options in this price range.why would you buy average when you can get descent for the same ££ ?
No, it's the other way around, Dynamic drivers have variable Ohm, and typically tends to have high Ohm, meaning they're the ones that need amplifiers to perform their best... The 560s is listed as having 120 ohm on the product page, but in testing, the ohm varies from 133 to 224.
Planarmagnetics have static Ohm, flat, constant, unchanging Ohm... The Sundara is revealed to have a flat 40 ohm in testing.
The higher the Ohm, the harder the headphone is to drive, the lower the ohm, the easier it is to drive.
Planarmagnetics are the easiest to drive, as they typically have the lowest Ohm.
But Ohm by itself, doesn't matter that much, it's when you introduce driver sensitivity ON TOP of ohm, that things start getting tricky. Lower sensitivity with higher Ohm, means the headphones start getting REALLY PICKY about HOW the audio signal is fed through the headphone... And even then, headphone sensitivity doesn't matter much until it gets below 90dB... And the Sundara is at 94dB/mW... This means at 1 mW, the Sundara pushes out 94dB average volume.
Safe long-term listening volumes are at 60-70dB... You're not really ever going to need to reach 94dB volume with the Sundara, so... you will never consume more than 1mW power consumption with, more or less, ANY headphone.
So really, you don't NEED amps capable of pushing 1000 mW and stuff, ever... You will only need an amp if you want extra volume headroom for whatever reason... Headphones also get old, and become less sensitive as the membrane ages, or even the coils get worn... In which case an amp might be able to counteract the aging for a while until the headphones finally die.
That being said, when it comes to dacs and amps, it's normally the Dac-chip that decides whether a headphone performs its best or not... It's not really the amp.
So most people don't actually have to worry about any of this.
The Sundara, as well as the 560s, both drive perfectly off a phone, or, a Nintendo 3DS. :P
@@MyouKyuubi Sorry, man, but you are wrong.
The resistance of a pair of headphones isn't the only thing that determines the power it needs.
There's a thing called sensitivity that measures the decibels of sound produced per miliwatt. The lower the sensitivity, the harder it is to drive.
That's the thing that makes planar headphones so hard to properly drive in spite of their low resistance. The HE400SE is like 91db/mW while a dynamic like the HD560S is 107db/mW (I think).
There are headphone calculators online that can give you the required power to reach a determinate volume via the sensitivity and resistance. Look them up, they're really useful.
Still, I have to admit I've had the chance to try a lot of headphones recently, and I do agree that planars aren't always more power hungry than dynamic cans. I found out that the HE400SE consumes only a bit more power than the HD560S, and I've also tried a pair of dynamic AKG K612 Pros that consumed much more than the other two.
That being said, I still advise against buying any planar headphones if you don't have an amplifier/DAC. It might sound, but it won't sound nearly as good. A great amplifier out there for cheap is the Apple USB C to 3.5mm adapter (15$ish), and it should have enough juice for the HE400SE. Not sure of the Sundaras.
So, in conclusion, even if it's not absolute, the bottom line of planars consume way more than the bottom line of dynamic headphones, so I wouldn't risk getting one without a decent amplifier.
(Also, a small note here for anyone interested. The power a pair of headphones consume has no correlation to the quality of the sound, it's just an inconvenience derived from the design of the headphones. In fact, I hate the K612 Pros and I much prefer the HD560S over them, even though they consume way more.)
I switched from a Razer nari ultimate to a sennheiser hd600 and I legitimately froze in my chair after listening to Iris by the goo goo dolls on them
that " super sharp" bit you played was extremely pleasing...didnt sound like there was anything besides your voice...soooooooooo nice
Sundaras are great but both headphones have niches and personally for me that extra top end resonates with me, plus the dt990 has better soundstage and instrument separation which is important in games
the dt990 has almost none of those things, lmao.
There's a difference between artificial detail, and real detail... the 990 have harsh treble, which tends to give the ILLUSION of detail, because the details that it CAN display, are literally just louder than they're supposed to be, making you think they're more detailed than thewy actually are.
However, the Sundara can point out what people are talking about outside of the recording booth sometimes, that's REAL detail. :P
Oh and also, the Sundara is a planarmagnetic driver, due to how they're constructed, the sounds produced from the audio-signal occurs on different parts of the membrane, meaning planarmagnetics have an inherent quality that makes them separate instruments better than dynamic drivers... Due to how dynamic drivers are constructed, all the noises it produces originate from the exact same point on the membrane, causing instruments to blend into each other, and in fact, causing certain frequencies to cancel each other out... Due to opposite movements occurring simultaneously.
There's also the fact that planarmagnetic drivers are inherently faster than dynamic drivers, they START a noise faster, and STOP a noise faster than dynamic drivers, giving them snappy, punchy, aggressive sound delivery.
Dynamic drivers = Cheap, but good enough fidelity for most people.
Planarmagnetic = Expensive, but great fidelity for picky listeners.
Electrostatic = Extremely expensive, but legendary fidelity for hopeless audio-junkies.
This logic excludes certain hybrid drivers... Like Meze's Isodynamic hybrid-array driver (For the Empyrean line), but generally speaking, this logic applies.
Soundstage is about the only thing the 990 may have an advantage over the Sundara in, though i can't confirm that for sure, though it makes sense, as dynamic drivers tend to be frather from your ears than planar drivers are... :P
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what
Him: sound more natural
Caption:natty
Why is no one talking about how he put natty instead of natural as the captions 😂
Natty is short for natural
As a music proder the dt990 250ohm was and still is my best option for under 200dollars. It offers a very unmodified output that does not exagerate prequencies. Great for prpducing
Not true.far from neutral sound
The high frequency is atrocious though, so please, don't make music with them. The S's pierces my ear, and it's annoying.
"Does not exaggerate frequencies" has to be the funniest joke I've heard in a damn long time
@@indorrNicky Romaro used them for year's with out issue. 🤷♀️ Same for martin Garix. 🥴
@@bluemangroup_1828the dt 770s and 990s are the industry standard and are known for being some of the most neutral headphones available
The felling of talking to myself and trying to say something without being interrupted by myself doesn’t sound pleasing I’m PASSING on these
Oh shit, I was expecting some dumb recommendation of the dot 1990, but that’s actually nice. I wish the sundara would go more mainstream stream people would definitely understand it
“they sound *super sharp*”
cardi b: i’ll take your entire stock
First used by ninja? Pretty sure when I was 12 I saw jacksepticeye rocking these
No he said First popularised by ninja not first used :)
Bro snuck himself in😂
Some streamers actually use the DT 1990 pro
Yeah
Which is actually HARSHER than the 990 roflmfao.
Say hello to hearing damage in the treble-region! :D
@@MyouKyuubi Oh for sure. Cloud III, DT 990, DT 1990 are treble blasters that don't ask for consent.
I bought a pair of Skullcandy ANC2 and all other qualities or faults aside, it had smooth dark treble... mmmm... So relaxing and easy on the ears. I got Fidelio X3 and they are also harsh, but not as bad as the treble kings.
@@Klongu_Da_Bongu Anything is better than beyerdynamics, lmao! Even skullcandy crushers, with that "f**k you!"-bass! xD
@@MyouKyuubi The Beyers have always reminded me of my dad growing up and the way he would EQ the spectrum in his car with 2 12 inch woofers in the trunk... MAX the treble, MAX the BASS, mids become very :(
I would always be like dad cool woofers but it sounds like we're 5 miles away from a party and we weren't actually invited, like someone turned on low pass filter...
Yeah, Beyers taught me that I don't like BRIGHT headphones necessarily, I like MID FORWARD headphones, like AD2000x, HD 600, and my Ananda Nano has a nice signature too. Do not like the Beyers tho
These used to be high end headphones a decade ago. I got mine in 2015 when they were exclusively Audiophile tier headphones. Now streamers just have them on their heads for video games.
I use the steel series arctis pro, and they sound really good, not open backed but has a mic monitor and there's a sweet setting to hear your voice whenever your mic is on, you can change it to low mid or high, 299.99$ worth it, best gaming headset on the market rn, it's my own opinion, but still a good buy
they are very good. They are on sale rn where i live for 50€ so i bought 1 pair for my friend.
Definitely not the best headset for gaming 😂
@@balloonn2662 if your not a Broke boy,been having this headset for 2 years nows
@@hifivelife5559 I’ve had many steel series they have never compared to my 200 dollar 560s 😂 but keep telling yourself steel series is worth it.
@@hifivelife5559 and I also had the arctic pros a few years back while Fortnite was big 3-4 years ago for the pros had a pair of Arctis 7s they lasted a year with light use before the power button stopped working
Small point of order - Open back headphones are primarily for mixing and mastering, not hearing yourself talk on a livestream
Beyerdynamic released 900 PRO X like 2 years ago. I recently got them and they're freaking fantastic, detailed, more natural sound whithout that unpleasent sharpness, very comfortable and great both for music and gaming.
This. I think the numbering throws a lot of people off thinking this is a dated model or something. I know I did for a bit.
@@RenbroNLdt990 better then the 900 pro x, 990 pro is the 2nd best gaming headphones money can buy , only behind HD800s
There are so many others who used these before ninja, saying he popularised them is criminal.
Bro now I feel bad for using my NORMAL headphones 💀
I can already hear myself when I talk 😂😂😂
How is there a pin with a comment 9 hours ago but it was posted like 2 minutes ago? I’m confused…
Lol I pinned those comments and scheduled the video so I could go to sleep and not worry about uploading in the morning
I do the same
Open backs also create a wider soundscape which can result in better imaging (being able to tell which direction and distance a sound came from).
Some make the soundstage too wide tho, and make you think something is further away than they really are.
Real friends would never let their bro use DT-990 Pros. The ear rape is real.
Treble nightmares
Sundara is a fantastic choice! They are a bit bright though, not harshly bright like beyerdynamics tend to be, but it can sound a bit airy, but a -2dB EQ in the 6300 hz range should take care of that. :)
Getting ready for the Greg Doucette gaming headset natty or not
the hifiman sundaras do require a DAC amp since theyre planar magnetic so it would cost even more and the beyerdynamic dont
Wasn’t popularized by ninja. It was popularized by DanTDM
Fun fact: just changing the earpads can make a difference. I have the ATH-M50x and the original earpads used to get uncomfortable after long periods. I switched them for these velour pads and not only are they more comfortable, they're more breathable and thus let a bit of sound in.
Just use an euqalizer and cut out some of the high end and boost the bass some. I did it on my pair of 990 pro's and it's incredible
for gaming you want as much high end and as least bass possible
@@SnxgurOnly for FPS games if you want to butcher the sound to get an edge. I personally like my games to sound good. 🤷🏻♂️
That one kid: isn’t this just headphones on transparency mode🤓
Turtle beach mics are good and most are cheap
Turtle beach are so good
Mine broke
all of the headsets i’ve owned were turtle beach best headset company in the world
@@RealGutoturtle beach got nothing on steelseries
@@lzzzzzzzzz365 never heard of them
Nice vid bro, keep it up!
I’m pretty sure some use the DT 770 Pros as well, they look identical but have slightly different sound
The sundara isn't ideal for gaming as the center imaging is pretty bad which means you're gonna have issues determining enemies positions when they are in front of you. Good headphones, just not for gaming unless you don't care about competitive gaming.
Why do all streamers use the same mic?
cause its bad use ur fken brain
Most streamers likely put an EQ tune on the headset to make it more tolerable or even good. Also the cushions are probably replaceable which means you could put some very nice cushions on if you wanted
Tell me that you're sponsored without telling me
I disagree. Many people find them sharp sounding and fatiguing. That's why people go with say hd 560's or hd 599's.
@@jarodfoshey985 💀
Not sponsored. I wish
@@jarodfoshey985 599's are great, they just have one downside, they're too thumpy in the mid-bass.
Just a single EQ filter can take care of that though.
The 560s is a bit sparkly, could be construed as harsh if you're particularly treble-sensitive, and would need a couple of EQ filters to fix, but, it's not as bad as Beyerdynamic headphones, lol.
beyerdynamic headphones almost always have bad FR-graphs with WAY too much treble. :P
I have these headphones and they haven’t worn down for me. Have had these for quite some time but they could worn down. Luckily you can replace the head part and the cushions. But they are fantastic.
if anyone here decides to buy the Sundaras, make sure you get the post 2020 version. They revised the earpads in 2020 and they DRASTICALLY improve the sound quality of the headphones
Dag If don't want the DT990 Pro Headphone just give it to me
He lives far away from you?
How do you know?
lol I still use them a lot for traveling so I don't mess up my main headphones
@@Dagwummy ok
@@Dagwummy I won't mess up the DT990 Pro Headphones
funniest thing is that they got a refresh and people still use the originals
I have the 770 pros and they’re just awesome
Beyerdynamic is a pretty amazing audio company, they managed to strike gold with DT880 and have routinely made garbage sounding headphones ever since
100%! xD
At least bro was honest about the price
Sennheiser HD560S is easily better for sound image, directional awareness and to spot footsteps in fps games.
yep yep! I own both Sundara, and a 560s, so i can confirm this!
Sundara is better with everything else, but the 560s's imaging absolutely trounces the Sundara, lol.
560s is the best for competitive gaming, 100%!
But of immersive and cinematic experiences and music, i'd choose the Sundara. :)
i beg to differ people used these wayyyyy before ninja lol he didn’t popularize them either
Hearing hifiman sundara literally just made me finish... SUCH A GOOD CHOICE! very proud 👌
The benefits of open back is a more natural sound quality and a wider Soundstage.
Dt 990s require a break in before sounding not harsh. Can make you nauseas hearing such pronounced treble, until they’re broken in.
Bro he entirely wear it now 💀💀💀
FINALLY A GAMER WITH A GOOD AUDIO TAKE
Bro got them wifiman zendayas thats crazyy
I got the edition xs for 300 from some guy who got a collection of high end headphones, just sitting in their boxes, pretty munch brand new. Heres a massive tip, when it comes to high end audio always gets a used high end one, rather than new cheaper one. If you concerened bout usage, get a new pair of pads, sanitize it. Itll be a 1000x cheaper yet still be better. Other than it not being brand new.
I'd be skeptical buying Hifiman used due to their poor QC track record. I'm very much for buying used, just not brands like Hifiman
@Njinx_ have it for over a year now. I use it with my fluance rt85n with ifi zen dac 2. It's amazing. Still feels brand new. No creeks or and weird rattle. I guess I pulled the lucky ticket, the previous owner was a collector of headphones, and I saw he had some amazing pairs, all of are still in box or displayed behind acrylic or glass. So mine was on peak condition when I got it. Good luck out there.
Yesssir I’ve been using these for years as they’re the best for sound quality on a budget but at the caveat of having to buy a amp is the only thing. I bought a cheap one and spent like $450 - $500 for the headphones and amp
Also I had to repair mine , a simple fix but some have manufacturer errors that end up having one driver work while the other doesn’t. Still well worth the money after 4 years of use
I hear myself talk using the audio input of my microphone, because my headphones are plugged into it directly there is very little delay so it never really gets annoying
Bruh “sound super sharp” lmao nuh uh
I first saw these back when jelly, slogoman, and kwebbelkop were still playing gta 5 together
The only good thing about these headphones to me is that it taught me something. I used to say I like "bright" headphones, and the DT 990s are notoriously bright and trebly, but I did not like them much and thought they sounded dark and muddy, the opposite of bright, kinda.. Thus I learned I look MID FORWARD headphones.. The DT 990's are TREBLE FORWARD but with RECESSED MIDS. The bass wasn't anything to write home about either without EQuing. Overall, I prefer just about every headphone in my collection over them, including HD600, AT AD2000x, Grado SR80x (or any SR series), Hifiman Ananda Nano, Hifiman HE400SE (also not a fan of these though, but better than Beyers)
just a heads up for anyone interested, the hifiman he400se can be found at half the price for a sound that's still not quite as good as sundaraz in my opinion, but still leagues ahead of the dt990 pro. there is maybe like the tiniest difference between the two but after trying both i've been using the he400se for 2 years now
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he didnt he just talked about his prevrence
@@timo4463he dod look that the first comment
Why open back head phones? Noise canceling headphones gives you the ability to turn on sounds that come through microphone
Me who can hear myself talk with a Playstation 5 controller mic: 🗿🗿🗿
"First popularized by Ninja" Is the biggest cap in history!
I use a 50 dollar turtle beach headset🗿
Downsides of headphones is that you can have a dent in your head if used for to long
Edit:It would heal thou
Just use an EQ to remove the sharpness? everyone acts like APO equalizer doesnt exist
My dt990s just came in today and i really like them i do wish the earcups were more of an oval shape like steelseries headsets (i got rid of my steelseries for these because they kept breaking and i heard these were very durable) considering they came out in 1988 i think they are good and i really like the design and the ear cushions are comfy
I will take a page from Crinacle and mention a budget combination that I can vouch for. That is the Koss KSC75 clip-on stereophone (less than AU$50 when I bought it) and a cheap lavalier mic (and maybe a headphone+mic -> line in adaptor).
Don't like headbands or headphone dents? Instead of a headband, each driver (speaker) has a rigid arm that goes around your ear like glasses arms - and I can personally say they fit well even with glasses on.
Need ambient noise, not sound isolation? Well, due to its design, it doesn't have a seal (each one is a left and right), so it's practical in environments and activities where listening to surroundings is preferable at least, or necessary at most.
Worried about lack of bass? Well, there is a lack of sub-bass (the rumbling bass that you feel), but the low bass is present in music tracks with bass.
Worried about too much treble? Thankfully there isn't too much treble like the DT990. It's tastefully done.
Worried about spatial recognition? Most headphones should be able to do that. The Koss KSC75 is no exception - sense of direction can be emulated according to the game being run.
The biggest deal breaker I can think of is a thin non-detachable cable - although it's technically detachable if you use it wrong enough.
Real OGs know audio technica with one look.
Raycasting in game development is crucial for collision detection and line-of-sight calculations. It helps create realistic and interactive game environments.
there are so many better open backs that you can get for relatively the same price with a good amount of bass for gaming and you can usually replace the ear-cups for these type of headphones
990's are just overrated and overused only becouse streamers and video creators use them. They are a lot better options
The main benefit of open back for streamers/gamers is that they provide a wider sound stage and makes it easier to pinpoint audio like footsteps. Open back for streaming mean audio leaking into your mic you should relay on obs or your audio interface
You also don't like saying kamehameha correctly.
I use the blackshark v2, my dad got me them as a surprise for 100$ and they work great, i see no reason to replace + recommended
Who needs that when your buddy has an echo
you can turn on mic monitoring on xbox and i’m not sure but i think most pcs have that option too so you can hear what your mic is picking up while you talk
Jack literally wore them in 2013..
I would highly recommend the DT 900 Pro X. They are all the good of the 900 Pro but with the issues fixed!
Cushion
🇮🇶:bro this my language why you steal it💀
me who plugs my headphones into my mic 😎
Don’t make me bring in the audiophiles because they will not forgive
Oh god 😅 nah but I think they would agree with me lol
@@Dagwummythe DT990 has a very specific tuning that most people wouldn’t like lol. It’s just way too bright and the midrange is also a bit wonky. The DT880 pro is better in every single way for around the same price if you really want a beyer. But the sennheiser hd560s would probably be a better choice than both because it has a removable cable, sound wise it’s comparable with the dt880. The Sundara is fine but I really don’t trust Hifiman’s quality control more than beyer or sennheiser. There’s numerous reports of driver failures with Hifiman.
@@Dagwummy The audiophiles agree, the Sundara is a fantastic headphone! :)
Not the ebst for gaming, obviously, but certainly in the "good enough" category!
It's also really good at music, movies and series. :)
perfect all-rounder for PC-enjoyment! The Sundara is brilliant!
@@hy7968 At the time you're posting this, Hifiman had already fixed their QC issues like 3 years ago at least. :P
“Popularized by ninja” uh huh ok
"i don't need headphones they disappoint me"
That’s what I use. Great headphones
Just upgraded to the DT900 Pro X. Way better imo. My 990s were starting to shit out on me
Why headset talks back to me as in what I say I can hear in the headset
there’s mic monitoring which can also help you hear yourself talk.. or do people not like that?
Typical gamer now uses the dt 1990 pro
I use the HUD 0 SIX HUNGE Os by ol mate Sennheiser
Just wait untill you get a dent 😂😂
Popularized by ninja lol
They are also reference headphones, so they are incredibly neutral. This can be good for gaming with the right interface. It can drive them as there is no enhancements. However, with a good interface, like an RME, you can tweak the EQ for your headphone output, if you feel like some frequencies are too high given these are incredibly flat give you a lot of flexibility
Fun fact they were originally made for studio recording