That's rude, nard wasn't being disrespectful at all, just playful as he always is on all his interviews. Sort of reminded me of Dave Rowntree's reaction on Blur's interview with nard.
I'm pretty sure he does that because he's a stutterer and that's his way of masking it. Being a stutterer the first 16 years of my life, I recognize the tricks.
I think the term Goth like Grunge was kind of made up by the media and marketing agencies. Which is why Bands and artists like Peter Murphy, just outright don't claim any connection to. The bands that were the earliest examples of so-called Grunge, like Mudhoney, screaming trees, or Alice in chains, would just say that shit was added on later.
I think more likely, with the exception of The Sisters, "Goth" didn't exist when they started, there was no word for what they were doing, there was no scene until they created it, that's why they feel no connection to it. Siouxsie & The Banshees for example come more from the punk scene, and their first album is counted as one of the very first (and very best) post-punk albums. The moniker "Goth" came after.
I was around in the early/mid 80's listening to Sisters of Mercy, Lords of the New Church, etc...they were all called deathrock at the time, there was no goth. I didn't hear that term goth until the 90's and to me it seemed the fans were the goths and the music was deathrock.
Judging by the comments, Murphy's fans are stuck-up, humourless and too ignorant to even know who Nard-the fucking legend-wuar is. Too bad considering how much wit and meta/referential humour are defining elements of Bauhaus sound and lyrics
Literally witnessed the north of england being bombed by the nazi's during WW2. During the 70's it was a violently destitute and poor as modern day detroit is. This is why most of the sound is "darker" louder and more theatrical.
Are you accusing Peter of a goth disinformation conspiracy? Bauhaus, Siouxsie, The Sisters and the other foundational bands never associated with goth because they didn't want to be pigeonholed into one genre, one that didn't really exist until they came along. They admit to not understanding it and begrudgingly accept it at best. No wonder he's misinformed.
+Siren Nardwuar is pretty legendarily awkward. He's been around forever and yet never achieved anything better than underground fame. Thank god, he's got a unique personality and we wouldnt have it any other way.
@Kzierbold I don't consider Marilyn Manson "goth" (in the sense of Bauhaus, Siouxsie, and '80s goth) but I think what Peter meant by referring to Marilyn Manson as "goth" was that he didn't want to label himself as "goth" and that he wanted to distance himself from the bands that are considered "goth" now, such as Marilyn Manson.
I don't know anything about them now, but I have to say that they did put on good shows. Really nice, too, they seemed to be just as curious about us as we were of them. They opened for Siouxsie at the Hollywood Palladium in '86 - not a huge venue. Being a gothic kid in LA and hispanic, I realize we were like kids out of the Love & Rockets comic books to them. Peter Murphy seemed the same - curious about us, and not full of himself.
austenslost theres a line between simple human mistakes and being a complete self centered prick, and nardwuar crossed it. this is the only interview where i feel nardwuar really blew it.
Noah Buddy The problem with Narwuar is that he is too pushy with his interviews and likes to be the one in control of the pace so if somebody is rambling too much he'll interrupt and that's when the interviews get uncomfortable. Sonic Youth tried highjacking the interview when he interviewed them and Nardwuar turned into a crying "take myself too serious" lil bitch
Peter Murphy is such a gentleman, he kicked Nardwar's ass in a very polite way haha Seriously, Nardwar sometimes is pretty cool and easy going and kind and sometimes he is a troll. I have watched a couple of interviews in which he is decided to annoy the musician in question and then...I celebrate Blur for what they did to him.
It's Nardwuar, he does this to everybody. It's really quite funny when you get over the hero worship. And the research he does prior to his interviews was enough to net him an honorary history degree from the University of British Columbia.
Great story about Peter saying the merch is bootlegged etc.. I was living in LA in 2010 and Bloomingdale’s had a $450 Bauhaus t-shirt for sale lol. Also my cousin a screen printer had been making knockoffs for personal use since 1985 haha
That was totally fucking hilarious. That last bit where he's like trying to prompt him for the little diddy, and he shines him on 3 times is pure gold. Who was this Uberlame interviewer?
It would probably go about as well as mentioning the "I Word" to JG Thirlwell, who I've heard say "we don't use the I word," and a rumor exists about him punching an interviewer, who once dared to use it, saying he hated the term.
Peter John Joseph Murphy (n. 11 de julio de 1957, cerca de Northampton, Reino Unido), es el vocalista del grupo post-punk Bauhaus, además de poseer una amplia carrera en solitario, alcanzado su cenit comercial en 1990.
@wiregreyhounds Agreed wiregreyhounds.Nard comes off a bit of a clown but he comes prepared and he will inocently expose who you really are alot of the times.This was a good one.
it's seen as kind of cool to live in Istanbul nowadays. But he did it because of his talented Turkish wife who's a choreographer for a prestigious contemporary dance company there
@Nadwuar Dude, you're lucky you didn't catch Pete in a bad mood. You've really got balls. One would almost think a HC kid was interviewing him as a joke.
Yeah. But usually, they aren't people who know or listen to the music. I'd guess he was saying it that way just to annoy Peter Murphy - who doesn't deserve it. I love how PM got all perky when he was referred to as "Batman".
@DrMalcolm I met him briefly in 1985. He seemed like a pretty nice guy, but I heard he was hard to get along with. I met Love & rockets in 1986 and they were even nicer.
for astra-whatever, google lagartija. Never heard of Sacher, but since i'm a big fan of bauhaus, murphy, ash, and J, I'll look for it. Thanks, Dracula!!!
I agree, although I have heard people say it that way. It's a German word after all, and it's not totally surprising that some people don't know how to say it correctly.
Whoa...Nadrwuar got schooled TWICE: that's the first time I've ever seen someone correct him in an interview, the guy usually knows his facts like a human encyclopedia!
I do not know if this guy John Ruskin (aka NArdwuar ) can read all this comments but , i guess it's harsh for the interviewed character when they are speaking and anwerind the questions , you interrupt 'em quitting the microphone... not only harsh for the character as it's harsh for us the audience.. Peter started really charming and humble this interview ... hope you can understand that concern of us the audience.
My understanding is that the term 'gothic' music associated as a genre or classification didn't really come about until the late eighties or early nineties, roughly. The same thing for 'deathrock', although that was probably more familiar to the bands of those times. I don't think the majority of the bands that were labeled as such were deliberately trying to be associated in those ways at all. They just had their ideas and did what they did. You have the original voices, then you have an evolution of exaggerated versions from other bands that followed in their footsteps (sometimes). It's the fans that generally create those terms as a way to identify with whatever they listen to, and when you say something enough, it starts to spread and stick.
@101090MOE Ha ha he could be researching tons of stuff and still not know how to pronounce words. But actually, I think he's just doing that to annoy Mr Murphy
Sorry if I offended your feelings. Maybe my reaction was too emotional, but I didn't like his humour and I think he wasn't well prepared for this interview, cheers
have you heard anything by Peter Murphy? He is an incredibly talented musician and a marvellous perfromer. maybe your the one who should continue taking the pills as obviously you seem to be pretty out of it.
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"These, these are geese. And NOT bats." -serious face-
those are NOT bats. Those are geese darling, geese
Good eatin'
nardwuar plays strange powers over his interviewees, like triggering tourette's on peter murphy
peter- so handsome, knowledgeable, gentle
I love his voice
Yes, I agree, Nardwuar’s voice is magnificent.
@@Lalovision3D narduars a fukin fluke
Nardwuar interviews are always a great indicator of which musicians take themselves too seriously.
U r so right... Too seriously.
Some just don't vibe with Nardwuar and i totally get it... The interview with Jane's Addiction was a good one
Nardwuar is a very good patience tester.
keep on taking the pills lol
I think he actually says "keep on taking the piss", as in screwing around.
@@revolutionday1 Nah it's pills. Peters acting as if Nardwuar needs help...haha "Keep on taking the pills". Was a nice interview of course!
That's rude, nard wasn't being disrespectful at all, just playful as he always is on all his interviews. Sort of reminded me of Dave Rowntree's reaction on Blur's interview with nard.
Cant believe even my man Peter was interviewed by nardwuar
This is super fucking brilliant. New kids were Bauhaus fans? LFMAO!!! He took the piss massively at the end.
I'm pretty sure he does that because he's a stutterer and that's his way of masking it. Being a stutterer the first 16 years of my life, I recognize the tricks.
Hearing Peter Murphy call Marilyn Manson goth hurt my heart a little.
totally correct though
I loved it
@@antigen4 lol no
@@antigen4 no he is not...a lot of late 70s goth bands say they not goth cuz they didn't like the label
I think the term Goth like Grunge was kind of made up by the media and marketing agencies. Which is why Bands and artists like Peter Murphy, just outright don't claim any connection to. The bands that were the earliest examples of so-called Grunge, like Mudhoney, screaming trees, or Alice in chains, would just say that shit was added on later.
Idk Peter seems pretentious but in a harmless n charming way. Gods bless him.
I found him a lot more down to earth than I expected but Nardwuar won't shut the fuck up!
Peter is the opposite of pretentious lol
@@newdamage5945 that's his job: to not shut up
He just seems not to get Nardwuar's thing at all, it almost looks like he had met many guys like him before this and he's completely unimpressed
he still does that weird gasping thing when he talks ..like he keeps getting out of breath.
Was that really Peter Murphy in the Maxell ad? I had no idea
The UK version not US
what a beautiful man
MY GRANDPA GOTH and my FAV INTERVIEWER it couldn't get more epic!
I think more likely, with the exception of The Sisters, "Goth" didn't exist when they started, there was no word for what they were doing, there was no scene until they created it, that's why they feel no connection to it. Siouxsie & The Banshees for example come more from the punk scene, and their first album is counted as one of the very first (and very best) post-punk albums. The moniker "Goth" came after.
Bauhaus first album came out in 1977 (In The Flat Field). Goth wasn't a thing, then.
Post punk?
I was around in the early/mid 80's listening to Sisters of Mercy, Lords of the New Church, etc...they were all called deathrock at the time, there was no goth. I didn't hear that term goth until the 90's and to me it seemed the fans were the goths and the music was deathrock.
I love how Peter is so down to Earth. And yes....that guy should keep on taking the pills.
Sounds more like a YOU issue.
Judging by the comments, Murphy's fans are stuck-up, humourless and too ignorant to even know who Nard-the fucking legend-wuar is. Too bad considering how much wit and meta/referential humour are defining elements of Bauhaus sound and lyrics
Literally witnessed the north of england being bombed by the nazi's during WW2. During the 70's it was a violently destitute and poor as modern day detroit is. This is why most of the sound is "darker" louder and more theatrical.
Love how he chugs his drink.
the debatable father of goth called nin and marilyn manson as the only goth bands he knows
Are you accusing Peter of a goth disinformation conspiracy? Bauhaus, Siouxsie, The Sisters and the other foundational bands never associated with goth because they didn't want to be pigeonholed into one genre, one that didn't really exist until they came along. They admit to not understanding it and begrudgingly accept it at best. No wonder he's misinformed.
This interviewer seems like a very uncomfortable person to be with, lol, I don't blame Peter by get a little annoyed. The end is hilarious though xD
+Siren Nardwuar is pretty legendarily awkward. He's been around forever and yet never achieved anything better than underground fame. Thank god, he's got a unique personality and we wouldnt have it any other way.
this makes me so happy
@Kzierbold I don't consider Marilyn Manson "goth" (in the sense of Bauhaus, Siouxsie, and '80s goth) but I think what Peter meant by referring to Marilyn Manson as "goth" was that he didn't want to label himself as "goth" and that he wanted to distance himself from the bands that are considered "goth" now, such as Marilyn Manson.
Thank you Nardwuar, long may you run
WTF! That was Peter Murphy on all those Maxxell tapes?!
I know right. I had that paper thing they were holding.
Peter Murphy ❤❤❤
"keep on taking the pills "😹
I think he was just trying to be being polite and thoughtful with his responses.
i used to have the remake poster of this ad. Awesome that Peter Murphy was the original subject in the advert.
"But these are geese, not bats..." lol
I don't know anything about them now, but I have to say that they did put on good shows. Really nice, too, they seemed to be just as curious about us as we were of them. They opened for Siouxsie at the Hollywood Palladium in '86 - not a huge venue. Being a gothic kid in LA and hispanic, I realize we were like kids out of the Love & Rockets comic books to them. Peter Murphy seemed the same - curious about us, and not full of himself.
That was hilarious. Peter is so awesome.
Nardwuar fucked up by interrupting the man twice
lol its human conversation you interrupt eachother once in a while
austenslost theres a line between simple human mistakes and being a complete self centered prick, and nardwuar crossed it. this is the only interview where i feel nardwuar really blew it.
don fernandez
I think you are coming from a viewpoint that celebrities deserve more respect than others. they dont. nardwuar did nothing wrong.
that couldn't be farther from my actually view point. if he did this to some random guy off the street he would still be an asshole.
Noah Buddy The problem with Narwuar is that he is too pushy with his interviews and likes to be the one in control of the pace so if somebody is rambling too much he'll interrupt and that's when the interviews get uncomfortable. Sonic Youth tried highjacking the interview when he interviewed them and Nardwuar turned into a crying "take myself too serious" lil bitch
Peter Murphy is such a gentleman, he kicked Nardwar's ass in a very polite way haha
Seriously, Nardwar sometimes is pretty cool and easy going and kind and sometimes he is a troll. I have watched a couple of interviews in which he is decided to annoy the musician in question and then...I celebrate Blur for what they did to him.
+127T I84 A couple more later.
Opinion still stands.
Emma Keller Fuck Blur
I watched that interview with blur and l thanked the guys. This guy was so annoying to Murphy. He got what he deserves
I love this, and Peter of course.
"Doot do do do doot.....Keep on taking the pills" .... FLOL!!!!
It's called a stammer.Hes had this since a child.
I think he actually says "keep on taking the piss", as in screwing around.
@@revolutionday1 Nah, I don't think he likes nard that much here.
Three tries at the end!!!
Love it..
I have to say the same thing I never really noticed it either until this inteview. Doesn't matter he is fantastic!
Nardwuar is the original troll
tool
serviette
It's Nardwuar, he does this to everybody. It's really quite funny when you get over the hero worship. And the research he does prior to his interviews was enough to net him an honorary history degree from the University of British Columbia.
"Don't Need a Cure" a Pere Ubu song on PM's 1st album "Should The World Fail to Fall Apart". Video is on YT.
Great story about Peter saying the merch is bootlegged etc.. I was living in LA in 2010 and Bloomingdale’s had a $450 Bauhaus t-shirt for sale lol. Also my cousin a screen printer had been making knockoffs for personal use since 1985 haha
love you peter !
That was totally fucking hilarious. That last bit where he's like trying to prompt him for the little diddy, and he shines him on 3 times is pure gold.
Who was this Uberlame interviewer?
do Nardwuar vs Andrew Eldritch!! that would be legendary XD but try not to get hit when you mention the "G" word
It would probably go about as well as mentioning the "I Word" to JG Thirlwell, who I've heard say "we don't use the I word," and a rumor exists about him punching an interviewer, who once dared to use it, saying he hated the term.
Eldritch actually has a decent sense of humor.
❤
Lol it's 2022 and I'm just finding out peter Murphy was the guy in that ad for maxell
Peeeeter ...you were doing so well until the end ...gaaah
Brill Pete..🌟
Actually had that growing up. Nice to know.
Peter John Joseph Murphy (n. 11 de julio de 1957, cerca de Northampton, Reino Unido), es el vocalista del grupo post-punk Bauhaus, además de poseer una amplia carrera en solitario, alcanzado su cenit comercial en 1990.
After this and GWAR I can die happy.
Now that was a stark contrast
lol the end of this tragic interview was funny xD
❤️💗❤️💗💥😍
i hope everyone understands his sarcasm about the marilyn manson and NIN comment he made....
I think that was to get Nardwuar to move on to another topic, other than the goth label.
@@pryingeyes1551 maybe
@wiregreyhounds Agreed wiregreyhounds.Nard comes off a bit of a clown but he comes prepared and he will inocently expose who you really are alot of the times.This was a good one.
it's seen as kind of cool to live in Istanbul nowadays. But he did it because of his talented Turkish wife who's a choreographer for a prestigious contemporary dance company there
Can't he shut up for a second and let Peter talk!!!
hahahahah peter's hilarious in this! heep taking the pills...
Keep on taking the Pills
This dude knows what he's talking about.
@Nadwuar Dude, you're lucky you didn't catch Pete in a bad mood. You've really got balls. One would almost think a HC kid was interviewing him as a joke.
when im in a band i want nardwuar to interb
love how he says "bahhaus "
Peter Murphy: Pure gothic rock. (Not that poser shit like Mansonites and COF.) Fuck yes.
What is the song playing around 6:48?
what year is this?
year zero for goth has to be the velvet underground and nico
Lagartija means gekko in spanish. I believe it literally means "little alligator", since Lagarto is the word for gator.
Yeah. But usually, they aren't people who know or listen to the music. I'd guess he was saying it that way just to annoy Peter Murphy - who doesn't deserve it. I love how PM got all perky when he was referred to as "Batman".
@DrMalcolm I met him briefly in 1985. He seemed like a pretty nice guy, but I heard he was hard to get along with. I met Love & rockets in 1986 and they were even nicer.
Alright! Now Nardwuar has done everyone......
thank you nardwuar.!!!
reporter needs a chill pill
for astra-whatever, google lagartija. Never heard of Sacher, but since i'm a big fan of bauhaus, murphy, ash, and J, I'll look for it. Thanks, Dracula!!!
I agree, although I have heard people say it that way. It's a German word after all, and it's not totally surprising that some people don't know how to say it correctly.
Hooray, I'm the 1000th like on this video 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
final soution =)
Sacher-Masoch
Holy shit, I have that shirt
Whoa...Nadrwuar got schooled TWICE: that's the first time I've ever seen someone correct him in an interview, the guy usually knows his facts like a human encyclopedia!
I do not know if this guy John Ruskin (aka NArdwuar ) can read all this comments but , i guess it's harsh for the interviewed character when they are speaking and anwerind the questions , you interrupt 'em quitting the microphone... not only harsh for the character as it's harsh for us the audience.. Peter started really charming and humble this interview ... hope you can understand that concern of us the audience.
This seems to be when Nardwuar still would express viewpoints other than just being the character of Nardwuar.
Question - Is "serviette" how they say "napkin" in Canadian?
The interviewer is mainly trying to interview himself.
You get it!!!!!!!!
7:50
My understanding is that the term 'gothic' music associated as a genre or classification didn't really come about until the late eighties or early nineties, roughly. The same thing for 'deathrock', although that was probably more familiar to the bands of those times. I don't think the majority of the bands that were labeled as such were deliberately trying to be associated in those ways at all. They just had their ideas and did what they did. You have the original voices, then you have an evolution of exaggerated versions from other bands that followed in their footsteps (sometimes). It's the fans that generally create those terms as a way to identify with whatever they listen to, and when you say something enough, it starts to spread and stick.
and except for the fact that Nardwuar has been doing this for over twenty years.
@Kzierbold same here (
is nardwuar related to jiminy glick?
@101090MOE Ha ha he could be researching tons of stuff and still not know how to pronounce words.
But actually, I think he's just doing that to annoy Mr Murphy
Ha ha ha ha ha!
He's Canadian, silly
Definitely on the spectrum as he excitedly talks about being getting injured.
Sorry if I offended your feelings. Maybe my reaction was too emotional, but I didn't like his humour and I think he wasn't well prepared for this interview, cheers
have you heard anything by Peter Murphy? He is an incredibly talented musician and a marvellous perfromer. maybe your the one who should continue taking the pills as obviously you seem to be pretty out of it.
Yeah, he has a slight stammer.