I absolutely LOVE your channel for several reasons! 1) I absolutely love, and much prefer, finding diamonds in the rough as opposed to buying the newest, shiniest, or most popular game out there. 2) My preference in games is older Euros. Simpler rules with a little more depth than expected, and lots of meaningful choices - as opposed to newer games that seem to add complexity without adding much to the gameplay. And the fact of variety - so many different and innovative mechanisms - not the same cookie cutter formula. 3) Lastly, and most importantly, your explanations are EXCELLENT! You seem very thorough, and you recap everything. Honestly, everything is a resounding 10/10!
Wow, thanks so much for the kind words!! That really means a lot. I put a _lot_ of work into making these videos, and I try to make them as clear as possible, so the fact that you find my explanations helpful is awesome!! You nailed everything I love about the older euros. These games used to have so much innovation & character. Like you said, everything now just feels like a cookie cutter formula. I find it much more exciting to dig into the past and find gems like this one. Anyway, I am so happy you found my channel! I have hundreds of games from my collection to feature still, so we are just getting started!!! I hope you learn about some amazing games here!!! Cheers!
Just picked up this game second hand, but it's in German. Found your channel and this video while looking for the English rules. Great overview! Subbed
That's awesome! Welcome to the channel! I have bought many games in German and other languages, so I completely understand what it's like to look to RUclips and find tutorial videos. In fact, that was one of my motivations for starting this channel 😅 I hope you find some great undiscovered games here!
I LOVE games like this where the game IS the players, and the rules are all in the game rather than a myriad of icons to memorize. Thanks for your awesome coverage! My fave gaming channel!
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that. I _completely_ agree with what you said. The game IS the players. Those are the best types of games, and I feel like now that I've realized that, I cannot go back to the other games. I still have a few of those that I love from years past, but I'm rarely in the mood to learn all the new ones with all those new rules & icons & such. These older games had elegantly simple rulesets with deep, interactive gameplay. Thanks again for the great comment!
Weird question: Did you mean to show the yellow piece with the rough edge when you said “rough edges?” 👀 If so, A+ for attention to detail!!! If not, that was an awesome video editing coincidence! I’m weird and I notice things like that 🫣 😂 Another great episode btw! My hubby (the world history teacher) really wants to play this now! 🤩
👏 👏 you win! 🏆 I _did_ put that in there on purpose. I try to throw in little things like that when I edit, so thank you for noticing! You’ll probably notice some other stuff if you look closely in my other vids. That’s so awesome you caught it!!! Thanks for watching!
@@undiscovered_games Good idea. I'll classify your videos between "money-saving episodes" and "financially wrecking" ones (mainly because shipping to my country is not cheap 🫠).
Thank you! I think you’ll love it! It’s a perfect use of blind bidding with fixed numbers. I love the interaction of trying to get inside your opponents’ heads & then being forced to get in each other’s way on the board. It’s a unique game for sure!
Thank you and welcome to the channel! Hope you enjoy my content! I try to post a new video about every 2-3 weeks, so there will be plenty more on the way :)
@@undiscovered_games That's great to hear. So many good games out there that get overlooked or are just too old. Your videos are extremely clear and easy to follow. Keep up the great work and I'll keep watching. You and Chairman of the Board are my two favorites on RUclips. BTW, I bought Oltre Mare because of your video. Can't wait to play it.
@@timu.6452 That's awesome! I really enjoy Chairman of the Board's videos too, so I am honored to be put in the same category as him. Oltre Mare is a gem! I think you'll really enjoy it; it's just a pleasant game all around. Check my pinned comment on that video for a slight rules mistake regarding the harbor bonus tokens. I like my way of playing better than the official rule, though, haha!
@@timu.6452 Yesss!!! 👏👏That's a steal! Great find!! For that price, you really can't go wrong with this one. I hope you enjoy! Let me know how you like it. :)
Awesome video, this game looks right up my alley!! I enjoy Aladdin’s Dragons and kept wondering if Doge was at all similar… then when you compared it to that game I immediately said YES! I always wished Aladdin’s Dragons had a bit more depth. It’s fun but Doge looks like it could be deeper & more interactive. Thanks so much for putting this on my radar. I’ve never heard of it, but I’ll be searching for it now!!
That’s awesome you’ve played Aladdin’s Dragons. That’s a fun undiscovered game too, but I definitely like Doge better for blind bidding with fixed tokens. Aladdin’s Dragons feels like I’m reacting to the game more than my opponents (like 70% game and 30% opponents). It’s more about the resources, cards, & tiles that come out & how heavy I want to bid on certain spots. Doge feels like I’m reacting to my opponents more than game (like 70% opponents and 30% game). The only thing the game itself does is providing the order of scoring. The rest is entirely up to the players, which feels much deeper & crunchier & more interactive. Thanks for watching! Let me know how you like Doge!
Very interesting thanks again for sharing. It was funny, I've just visited your channel to see if I missed something and an hour after I got a notification about your new episode 😊 By the way, any chance for undiscovered games for kids?
Thanks for the comment and the suggestion! I actually have an episode planned for that exact topic. Maybe I’ll do that one next 🤔 If not, then definitely soon!!!
Another great one! So what if you tie with your number of houses as well? Sorry if i missed it I'm watching this at 4:30am 😊 Would love to try The Bridges of Shangri-La by Colovini as well.
Ah yes, the 4:30am board game binge watching: I've been there soo many times LOL!!! Good question! If you tie for most palaces & houses, it's just a shared victory at that point. You could probably come up with a house rule, though. I'm thinking something like whoever placed their final palace first, or something like that. The Bridges of Shangri La is my fav Colovini game. Absolutely brilliant. I never really considered that an undiscovered game, but it seems like I encounter a lot of people have never played it (or never even heard of it), so maybe I need to make a video on it! You _definitely_ need to play Bridges sometime soon. It's so good... sadly hard to find but keep your eyes open. Thanks for watching as always!!
This is wonderful and timely because I just dug this out of the "games I haven't played in decades" shelf to play tonight, and this perfectly re-oriented me. One situation that's not covered in the video so far (unless it's in the discussion section) -- if more than one advisor from Quarantia are currently on the board (owned) and one of them gets neutralized, how do you pick which one from the board to neutralize?
Oh, the rulebook clarifies this, and I think the step is skipped in the video. After voting occurs in the Quarantia, all three Quarantia advisors become neutral before either player decides what to do. If you demonstrated this and I missed it, my apologies!
Thanks for the comment, and I will have to check the video for sure, but that might be the one situation I forgot to cover. I tried to tackle all the little weird situational rules, but I may have missed that one. Thank you!!! I will add it to the rules clarification section in the video description. :)
Another excellent presentation of a totally unknown to me game. I would definitely be searching this one out if I already didn't have the game Ys. This has some interesting similarities with Ys in the "almost" blind bidding. Here you bid half of your tokens hidden and the other half revealed during a round. This is where I got the idea for the Stonehenge variant I offered on your last video. The extra that Ys has is set collection in the form of gems and commodity speculation of those gems. And, some variable player powers gained along the way. Another big similarity is the amount of time and minutiae around breaking ties. 😅 All in all it's an excellent game. If you are interested in Ys, check out the Chairman of the Board's RUclips review. He does an great job of explaining the game.
Thanks for the great comment as always! Ys is actually on my shelf of shame, so that's a start!! I have owned it for several years and never got around to playing it! I am vaguely familiar with how it plays, so I will definitely check out COTB's video. Your comment has given me some motivation to get Ys played soon!! I'll let you know how I like it. In Doge, I love how you reveal part of your blind bid (the district) but keep the total votes hidden. It sounds like Ys does something similar by bidding half your tokens hidden. Can't wait to check it out!!
Thanks for watching! If you like Colovini at all, I can almost guarantee you'll like this one, even though it's a bit obtuse & hard to grasp at first. Doge destroyed Aladdin's Dragons for me; I never went back to that game once I played this. And if you've ever played Knizia's game called The King's Road, this is like a fuller "gamer's game" version of that. Hope you get to try this out sometime! :D
Never heard of this game before but my mind kept connecting to another game that plays entirely differently. San Marco by Alan Moon. I always think of San Marco as the game that got me hooked on modern board games. I thought it was pure genius that my young daughter could play it because there was no reading required. I had never seen a game that was language independent. Doge came out the year before San Marco but I don't see any connection except for theme.
San Marco is great! I love the "I Cut You Choose" mechanism. I have not checked, but San Marco could very well be the game that invented that mechanism. It does have a very similar game board, but otherwise yes, it's a totally different game. There's a Reiner Knizia game called King's Road that is probably most similar to Doge. But it's still quite different. Doge really stands alone in my collection. It's always a hit when we show new players too.
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That existential dread when Undiscovered Games drops a new episode on a game that I don't own.
😂😂😂 I know that feeling all too well haha
@@undiscovered_games 🤣🤣🤣
I share that feeling!😅
I absolutely LOVE your channel for several reasons!
1) I absolutely love, and much prefer, finding diamonds in the rough as opposed to buying the newest, shiniest, or most popular game out there.
2) My preference in games is older Euros. Simpler rules with a little more depth than expected, and lots of meaningful choices - as opposed to newer games that seem to add complexity without adding much to the gameplay. And the fact of variety - so many different and innovative mechanisms - not the same cookie cutter formula.
3) Lastly, and most importantly, your explanations are EXCELLENT! You seem very thorough, and you recap everything. Honestly, everything is a resounding 10/10!
Wow, thanks so much for the kind words!! That really means a lot. I put a _lot_ of work into making these videos, and I try to make them as clear as possible, so the fact that you find my explanations helpful is awesome!! You nailed everything I love about the older euros. These games used to have so much innovation & character. Like you said, everything now just feels like a cookie cutter formula. I find it much more exciting to dig into the past and find gems like this one. Anyway, I am so happy you found my channel! I have hundreds of games from my collection to feature still, so we are just getting started!!! I hope you learn about some amazing games here!!! Cheers!
Just picked up this game second hand, but it's in German. Found your channel and this video while looking for the English rules. Great overview! Subbed
That's awesome! Welcome to the channel! I have bought many games in German and other languages, so I completely understand what it's like to look to RUclips and find tutorial videos. In fact, that was one of my motivations for starting this channel 😅 I hope you find some great undiscovered games here!
I LOVE games like this where the game IS the players, and the rules are all in the game rather than a myriad of icons to memorize. Thanks for your awesome coverage! My fave gaming channel!
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that. I _completely_ agree with what you said. The game IS the players. Those are the best types of games, and I feel like now that I've realized that, I cannot go back to the other games. I still have a few of those that I love from years past, but I'm rarely in the mood to learn all the new ones with all those new rules & icons & such. These older games had elegantly simple rulesets with deep, interactive gameplay. Thanks again for the great comment!
I absolutely agree, so true with a lot of these older euro games. 😊
Weird question: Did you mean to show the yellow piece with the rough edge when you said “rough edges?” 👀 If so, A+ for attention to detail!!! If not, that was an awesome video editing coincidence! I’m weird and I notice things like that 🫣 😂 Another great episode btw! My hubby (the world history teacher) really wants to play this now! 🤩
👏 👏 you win! 🏆 I _did_ put that in there on purpose. I try to throw in little things like that when I edit, so thank you for noticing! You’ll probably notice some other stuff if you look closely in my other vids. That’s so awesome you caught it!!! Thanks for watching!
SAFE THIS TIME! I ALREADY HAVE IT! XD
And I like it a lot.
Thanks for the labor.
Haha whew!! 😅 A money-saving episode 😂 That’s good to know you enjoy it too. It confirms that my audience and I are on the same page. 👍
@@undiscovered_games Good idea. I'll classify your videos between "money-saving episodes" and "financially wrecking" ones (mainly because shipping to my country is not cheap 🫠).
Ooooooo I love blind bidding!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for sharing! I need to play this!!!!!
Thanks for the comment! Hope you get to try it soon!!
Fantastic new episode UDG! Straight into the wishlist! 👏👏
Thank you! I think you’ll love it! It’s a perfect use of blind bidding with fixed numbers. I love the interaction of trying to get inside your opponents’ heads & then being forced to get in each other’s way on the board. It’s a unique game for sure!
Great video! Subscribed 😊
Thank you and welcome to the channel! Hope you enjoy my content! I try to post a new video about every 2-3 weeks, so there will be plenty more on the way :)
@@undiscovered_games That's great to hear. So many good games out there that get overlooked or are just too old. Your videos are extremely clear and easy to follow. Keep up the great work and I'll keep watching. You and Chairman of the Board are my two favorites on RUclips. BTW, I bought Oltre Mare because of your video. Can't wait to play it.
@@timu.6452 That's awesome! I really enjoy Chairman of the Board's videos too, so I am honored to be put in the same category as him. Oltre Mare is a gem! I think you'll really enjoy it; it's just a pleasant game all around. Check my pinned comment on that video for a slight rules mistake regarding the harbor bonus tokens. I like my way of playing better than the official rule, though, haha!
Just got my copy of Doge in the mail yesterday. Picked it up for $20 on Geek market. 😊
@@timu.6452 Yesss!!! 👏👏That's a steal! Great find!! For that price, you really can't go wrong with this one. I hope you enjoy! Let me know how you like it. :)
Awesome video, this game looks right up my alley!! I enjoy Aladdin’s Dragons and kept wondering if Doge was at all similar… then when you compared it to that game I immediately said YES! I always wished Aladdin’s Dragons had a bit more depth. It’s fun but Doge looks like it could be deeper & more interactive. Thanks so much for putting this on my radar. I’ve never heard of it, but I’ll be searching for it now!!
That’s awesome you’ve played Aladdin’s Dragons. That’s a fun undiscovered game too, but I definitely like Doge better for blind bidding with fixed tokens. Aladdin’s Dragons feels like I’m reacting to the game more than my opponents (like 70% game and 30% opponents). It’s more about the resources, cards, & tiles that come out & how heavy I want to bid on certain spots. Doge feels like I’m reacting to my opponents more than game (like 70% opponents and 30% game). The only thing the game itself does is providing the order of scoring. The rest is entirely up to the players, which feels much deeper & crunchier & more interactive. Thanks for watching! Let me know how you like Doge!
Very interesting thanks again for sharing. It was funny, I've just visited your channel to see if I missed something and an hour after I got a notification about your new episode 😊
By the way, any chance for undiscovered games for kids?
Thanks for the comment and the suggestion! I actually have an episode planned for that exact topic. Maybe I’ll do that one next 🤔 If not, then definitely soon!!!
Another great one! So what if you tie with your number of houses as well? Sorry if i missed it I'm watching this at 4:30am 😊
Would love to try The Bridges of Shangri-La by Colovini as well.
Ah yes, the 4:30am board game binge watching: I've been there soo many times LOL!!! Good question! If you tie for most palaces & houses, it's just a shared victory at that point. You could probably come up with a house rule, though. I'm thinking something like whoever placed their final palace first, or something like that. The Bridges of Shangri La is my fav Colovini game. Absolutely brilliant. I never really considered that an undiscovered game, but it seems like I encounter a lot of people have never played it (or never even heard of it), so maybe I need to make a video on it! You _definitely_ need to play Bridges sometime soon. It's so good... sadly hard to find but keep your eyes open. Thanks for watching as always!!
This is wonderful and timely because I just dug this out of the "games I haven't played in decades" shelf to play tonight, and this perfectly re-oriented me. One situation that's not covered in the video so far (unless it's in the discussion section) -- if more than one advisor from Quarantia are currently on the board (owned) and one of them gets neutralized, how do you pick which one from the board to neutralize?
Oh, the rulebook clarifies this, and I think the step is skipped in the video. After voting occurs in the Quarantia, all three Quarantia advisors become neutral before either player decides what to do. If you demonstrated this and I missed it, my apologies!
Thanks for the comment, and I will have to check the video for sure, but that might be the one situation I forgot to cover. I tried to tackle all the little weird situational rules, but I may have missed that one. Thank you!!! I will add it to the rules clarification section in the video description. :)
@@undiscovered_games It really is an excellent video, and it got me all excited to finally play this one again. :)
Another excellent presentation of a totally unknown to me game. I would definitely be searching this one out if I already didn't have the game Ys. This has some interesting similarities with Ys in the "almost" blind bidding. Here you bid half of your tokens hidden and the other half revealed during a round. This is where I got the idea for the Stonehenge variant I offered on your last video. The extra that Ys has is set collection in the form of gems and commodity speculation of those gems. And, some variable player powers gained along the way. Another big similarity is the amount of time and minutiae around breaking ties. 😅 All in all it's an excellent game. If you are interested in Ys, check out the Chairman of the Board's RUclips review. He does an great job of explaining the game.
Thanks for the great comment as always! Ys is actually on my shelf of shame, so that's a start!! I have owned it for several years and never got around to playing it! I am vaguely familiar with how it plays, so I will definitely check out COTB's video. Your comment has given me some motivation to get Ys played soon!! I'll let you know how I like it. In Doge, I love how you reveal part of your blind bid (the district) but keep the total votes hidden. It sounds like Ys does something similar by bidding half your tokens hidden. Can't wait to check it out!!
This sounds terrific. I’m a fan of Colovini’s designs but haven’t heard of this one.
Thanks for watching! If you like Colovini at all, I can almost guarantee you'll like this one, even though it's a bit obtuse & hard to grasp at first. Doge destroyed Aladdin's Dragons for me; I never went back to that game once I played this. And if you've ever played Knizia's game called The King's Road, this is like a fuller "gamer's game" version of that. Hope you get to try this out sometime! :D
I bought this one quite a while ago, but somehow it never made it to the table... I am motivated now!
Do it!!! It’s a surprisingly thinky game that gets even deeper the more you play. It’s so fun to try to outguess your opponents.
Never heard of this game before but my mind kept connecting to another game that plays entirely differently. San Marco by Alan Moon. I always think of San Marco as the game that got me hooked on modern board games. I thought it was pure genius that my young daughter could play it because there was no reading required. I had never seen a game that was language independent.
Doge came out the year before San Marco but I don't see any connection except for theme.
San Marco is great! I love the "I Cut You Choose" mechanism. I have not checked, but San Marco could very well be the game that invented that mechanism. It does have a very similar game board, but otherwise yes, it's a totally different game. There's a Reiner Knizia game called King's Road that is probably most similar to Doge. But it's still quite different. Doge really stands alone in my collection. It's always a hit when we show new players too.