Being nice and personable with dealers at pit bosses will keep suspicion at bay especially if you have the skills to "sing and dance" in the AP space. Talkative and chatty counters throw off staff so easily
I’m an AP from the Midwest and I just worked Pennsylvania for a year when I lived there. Security/casino operations is laughable in some of these casinos! I had my car pinned in and I wasn’t allowed to leave a casino for something that’s not even a crime in Pennsylvania. These people have no shame and most of it is jealousy and lack of training!
Very interesting regards leaving after max betting, does BJA stand behind that recommendation? I generally hear “don’t back yourself off”, doesn’t that seem to contradict that notion somewhat?
Before court rulings, they were criminals. That mentality has stuck around unfortunately. It’s like boomers view on people that smoke weed legally now, they still think it’s wrong/illegal/immoral
The biggest thing is the spread, to do it right you have to spread and once you spread you will get caught. Any casino that can't spot a card counter in 30 minutes and back you off in an hour just doesnt care.
You overestimate how skilled and attentive the staff are. Very few places will back off a counter that quickly - it can take hours, weeks, even months sometimes before a casino gets wise.
I do it all day long in training the bet spread is the problem seeing if you cut off a deck of cards approximately the bet spread would have to be bigger to make more money to cover things like gas and living expenses and stuff but yes it is possible but not a lot of casinos do 4 decks all of them usually are 6 decks and 8 decks and some you'll find 2 decks
@@69memo.42 Why wouldn't it be? You can count single-deck games. You can count 8-deck games. Why couldn't you count something in the middle? It's the rules and the deck penetration that matters, not the number of decks.
Yes it's possible with a 1million decks theoretically. It just changes your edge and takes longer to find best spots the more decks you have. But when count is high it stays higher for longer with heaps of decks :)
It's essentially related to loyalty and cards. They track turnover and try to track winnings and losses via a card that that can be upgraded to different VIP tiers.
Only if you find an edge. Check out edge sorting as one example. Not without some help from either effects in the casinos tools or cheating/collaborating with someone on inside.
Yes the perfect strategy don’t listen to morons that tell you differently…strategy is best self taught…. Not something you can find online I recommend large bankroll , patience & perfect money management… know when to start & stop… before walking into the casino.
Hi Low is easy to manage keeping count but knowing every variation and also how to maximise action is where it gets tricky. Knowing when not to make the perfect play and take an ev hit to maximise ling term.
I'm not sure the argument that casinos spend more fighting card counters than that save is valid. You have to take into account the amount they save from people that are deterred from counting by all the surveillance. If casinos just let people count, there would be a very large incentive for people to count and far more people would do it.
If they let us play without end it’s better to say counters would be too successful. At least the few that are good. But most will lose that’s what’s being communicated I think. But if there were no back offs the good ones would take casinos for millions at 1 location.
@@BIGMACPOPI disagree. It takes a special breed, but the people who are motivated to count cards are going to count cards and will not be deterred by the mere knowledge that it's frowned upon and that surveillance is watching. Anyone who is deterred probably lacks the necessary drive to even learn the skill.
@@grifter84 They are deterred by the fact that it is really difficult to make money doing it. You have to keep travelling to find a casino you haven't been backed off from, play for an hour, get backed off and have to go and find another casino. If you could just go to your local casino and count cards as long as you like, it would be much easier to make money and, therefore, more people would do it.
One question bro right now every casino using 25-30 cards only and shuffling then again and again in less than 3 minutes so what's your view in that or can u make a video on that bro How card counting works in that very low cards
@Blackjackapprenticeship ruclips.net/video/Dz5hiog7Uo4/видео.htmlsi=ZXlmxTEPcyKjt7dV 4:30,6:30,10:30 it is done by Manual shuffling bro with 25 cards only no machines around
@@srikanthchimata6253 Whether they shuffle continuously by hand or shuffle continuously with a machine, it is the exact same thing. Everything in the CSM video still applies. (Except shuffling by hand is slower, so you'll get terrible hands per hour, so I don't know why any casino would do that...)
@@srikanthchimata6253 The first shoe in that video was 66 cards by my count, not 25-30. They said it was a double deck game, so that's 63% penetration. That's bad, but not crazily so. That's probably countable.
i wonder what is the rule if dealer has to stand on any 17 and keep drawing cards and pull an Ace, you spot the mistake and if you argue it sitting on seat 1 do they HAVE TO give you that Ace next hand?
Yeah most casinos will pull the card back and give you the option to take it or not face up. As long as you catch it prior to end of hand and it can be reconstructed.
As a man, when you are met with confrontational casino staff…. Why don’t you be confrontational back? It’s very feminine to say they were harsh with the backoff
Because you put yourself in the spotlight. You want to not be noticed with most strategies and asking uo when you are being quietly asked not to play blackjack is a quick way to be sure you will be added to the black book
I mess with the casinos so bad . I look dumb and ill bet big on super low counts and hit it most the time i get really close to 20 . Its messes with them so bad
This & the last couple of vids & podcast has been next level stuff.
So much to relate to in this vid.
Good stuff
Great video! This interview and then the podcast with T.Dane have had some really great insights
31:24 most underrated skill. Being kind always gets me much more time compared to fellow AP's.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Love these perspectives! Great Interview, Colin! ♠️
top shelf show,
Being nice and personable with dealers at pit bosses will keep suspicion at bay especially if you have the skills to "sing and dance" in the AP space. Talkative and chatty counters throw off staff so easily
Hadn’t considered that chip shuffling would make me stand out. Duly noted
I’m an AP from the Midwest and I just worked Pennsylvania for a year when I lived there. Security/casino operations is laughable in some of these casinos! I had my car pinned in and I wasn’t allowed to leave a casino for something that’s not even a crime in Pennsylvania. These people have no shame and most of it is jealousy and lack of training!
interesting video topic, thx 🙏
19:57 double on soft 19 and soft 20?!!!! I’ve never heard or seen counters do that.
Soft 19 vs. 6 is a basic strategy double for H17 cames. Doubling soft 20 has the same indexes as splitting 10's.
Very interesting regards leaving after max betting, does BJA stand behind that recommendation? I generally hear “don’t back yourself off”, doesn’t that seem to contradict that notion somewhat?
Did you play in Tunica at all?
Watch the movie casino.
They dealt with them like that back in the day.
Plenty holes in that desert.
so dumb how casinos treat card counters like they're criminals lol so stupid
Before court rulings, they were criminals. That mentality has stuck around unfortunately. It’s like boomers view on people that smoke weed legally now, they still think it’s wrong/illegal/immoral
When there odds against players are the real crime
The biggest thing is the spread, to do it right you have to spread and once you spread you will get caught. Any casino that can't spot a card counter in 30 minutes and back you off in an hour just doesnt care.
You overestimate how skilled and attentive the staff are. Very few places will back off a counter that quickly - it can take hours, weeks, even months sometimes before a casino gets wise.
Do you think card counting on 4 decks is still possible?
I do it all day long in training the bet spread is the problem seeing if you cut off a deck of cards approximately the bet spread would have to be bigger to make more money to cover things like gas and living expenses and stuff but yes it is possible but not a lot of casinos do 4 decks all of them usually are 6 decks and 8 decks and some you'll find 2 decks
@@69memo.42 Why wouldn't it be? You can count single-deck games. You can count 8-deck games. Why couldn't you count something in the middle? It's the rules and the deck penetration that matters, not the number of decks.
Yes it's possible with a 1million decks theoretically. It just changes your edge and takes longer to find best spots the more decks you have. But when count is high it stays higher for longer with heaps of decks :)
yes
I live in Sweden, hoping to learn enough one day to make some money. But we don't have real a casino here! =(
European casinos aren't really countable. a few come and go. in the US they are abundant. Plenty to pick and choose from
I will cut casino profits by walking up to 6-5 blackjack and CSM tables and physically pull players off these tables by educating them on the spot.
Good way to get backed off whole not even playing. Better of subtly educating. Haha
I was backed off while playing automatic roulette at rivers in Pittsburgh. What's up with that?
They think you are RNG manipulating the machines 😂
What’s does getting rated mean
It's essentially related to loyalty and cards. They track turnover and try to track winnings and losses via a card that that can be upgraded to different VIP tiers.
it's taken me until now to realize the game during the intro is higher a TC 3+ [assuming shoe] because he gets a blackjack and then gets even money]
"Sheer the sheep not skin it"
That's a very profound statement for AP to remember.
Facts , this is how you have to do it unless you want to travel across the United states and other countries
Does anyone know if Baccarat is beatable long term with strategy?
no strategy for baccarat
The main game is not beatable. Some of the side bets can be beaten with a well calculated counting strategy.
Only if you find an edge. Check out edge sorting as one example. Not without some help from either effects in the casinos tools or cheating/collaborating with someone on inside.
Yes the perfect strategy don’t listen to morons that tell you differently…strategy is best self taught…. Not something you can find online I recommend large bankroll , patience & perfect money management… know when to start & stop… before walking into the casino.
@@miggsalmasy2682 if baccarat counting existed it would 100% exist online
Wow
Counting is actually so easy
Hi Low is easy to manage keeping count but knowing every variation and also how to maximise action is where it gets tricky. Knowing when not to make the perfect play and take an ev hit to maximise ling term.
it is. getting table time if you're a winning player is not.
3 OSN entries and all from 12 years ago? Ok seems legit.
Very misleading title of video.
I'm not sure the argument that casinos spend more fighting card counters than that save is valid. You have to take into account the amount they save from people that are deterred from counting by all the surveillance. If casinos just let people count, there would be a very large incentive for people to count and far more people would do it.
Extremely valid point. I agree
If they let us play without end it’s better to say counters would be too successful. At least the few that are good. But most will lose that’s what’s being communicated I think. But if there were no back offs the good ones would take casinos for millions at 1 location.
@@BIGMACPOPI disagree. It takes a special breed, but the people who are motivated to count cards are going to count cards and will not be deterred by the mere knowledge that it's frowned upon and that surveillance is watching. Anyone who is deterred probably lacks the necessary drive to even learn the skill.
I have wanted to learn for years, but see no point in it. I've focused on poker instead.
@@grifter84 They are deterred by the fact that it is really difficult to make money doing it. You have to keep travelling to find a casino you haven't been backed off from, play for an hour, get backed off and have to go and find another casino. If you could just go to your local casino and count cards as long as you like, it would be much easier to make money and, therefore, more people would do it.
Thanks.
Less interviews.
More practice/tip videos.
i swear card counting was created by casinos
Nah but you can google who actually created it
One question bro right now every casino using 25-30 cards only and shuffling then again and again in less than 3 minutes so what's your view in that or can u make a video on that bro
How card counting works in that very low cards
Those are Continuous Shuffle Machines we did a video about them here: ruclips.net/video/Y4BIVuO1WHM/видео.html
@Blackjackapprenticeship ruclips.net/video/Dz5hiog7Uo4/видео.htmlsi=ZXlmxTEPcyKjt7dV
4:30,6:30,10:30 it is done by Manual shuffling bro with 25 cards only no machines around
@@srikanthchimata6253 Whether they shuffle continuously by hand or shuffle continuously with a machine, it is the exact same thing. Everything in the CSM video still applies. (Except shuffling by hand is slower, so you'll get terrible hands per hour, so I don't know why any casino would do that...)
@@srikanthchimata6253 The first shoe in that video was 66 cards by my count, not 25-30. They said it was a double deck game, so that's 63% penetration. That's bad, but not crazily so. That's probably countable.
This guy is a traitor
i wonder what is the rule if dealer has to stand on any 17 and keep drawing cards and pull an Ace, you spot the mistake and if you argue it sitting on seat 1 do they HAVE TO give you that Ace next hand?
Usually they will let you have that ace.
Yeah most casinos will pull the card back and give you the option to take it or not face up. As long as you catch it prior to end of hand and it can be reconstructed.
Andrew, I read your book. It’s great!! Do you have an email address? I want to ask you some questions about your experiences.
As a man, when you are met with confrontational casino staff…. Why don’t you be confrontational back?
It’s very feminine to say they were harsh with the backoff
why would you want to make yourself more memorable?
Because we're not counting cards to prove our masculinity. We're doing it for money.
(Also, female card counters exist)
Because you put yourself in the spotlight. You want to not be noticed with most strategies and asking uo when you are being quietly asked not to play blackjack is a quick way to be sure you will be added to the black book
because some of us are smart enough to not harm our long term success simply to protect our fragile masculinity.
I mess with the casinos so bad . I look dumb and ill bet big on super low counts and hit it most the time i get really close to 20 . Its messes with them so bad
I'm concerned you are gambling sir and not counting.