Magnets are the most amazing feature of a multitool. My Free P4 it’s something from another planet along the other multi tools. I wouldn’t think that the one handed feature I have to use so many times! I just love this thing!
Totally agree with you, for that price point and dimensions you can choose a better set of tools in Victorinox. They are the standard in non pliers based tools. Proven quality and lifetime warranty
T4 has a huge advantage agains SAKs - it has steel scales, +the glass-filled nylon(g10) - I don't forsee it to loose visuals over time. And overall it is sturdier multitool in all aspects, imo, althrought a little chunky. All tools lock, that's a big advantage. Personally i'm not a big fan of Victorinox rounded aestetics with that useless corkscrew(i don't drink solvents, other than water), and for me, T4 just feels nicier. The only problems are the blade shape and the price(85e in Finland).
@@ScriptoZe You're basing your view of SAKs on celidor models with corkscrews, which are not the only type of SAK, although they're the archetype of a traditional SAK. Btw the T4 doesn't have steel scales, they're aluminium. Victorinox alox models also have aluminium scales, and are sturdier than the celidor (plastic) scaled models, including having thicker blades. They don't however have locking blades, for me that isn't an issue as (a) we're not allowed to carry locking knives in the UK but more importantly (b) I was taught as a 10 year old boy scout to always cut away from myself, never towards. A Victorinox Pioneer X - the one with scissors - would outclass this, although it doesn't have the stubby little file or a Phillips, but the can opener end is adequate for most Phillips screws. You could even get a Farmer X - which has an added saw blade - and still pay less than for the T4.
@@simonh6371 As I told, I don't like the rounded Victorinox aestetics, so T4 is more pleasing to my eye. I'm aware of Pieneer X, it's a fine knife, but it's larger. T4 is just the perfect size, and I can open it one-handed + it has tweesers, so I don't see any outclassing there. Well the saw... I could live without it, considering that it makes the knife even bulkier. BTW I'm pretty sure the T4 scales are stainles steel by the looks of it.
I'm a building engineer and I rely on my leatherman wave (with kit) and my victorinox explorer for my day to day. Looks like I'll be sticking with the team I have for now. Thank you for your honest opinion Ben. Much appreciated.
@@txtoolcrib no man its not you're model mine wont cut para-cord either. We all juggle knives blasted them on this issue. From what ive seen its that the blade grind is too thick
the scissor problem is the rivet. I've owned 2 leatherman squirt PS4's. One cut like absolute garbage (rivet was loose). Lost this one and bought another to realize the scissors cut like a dream (rivet is tight). Leatherman QC on the scissors could use work I guess...
Thanks for posting your thoughts on the Free T4. I have been using a Free T4 almost daily over the past few weeks and have been impressed with its performance and construction. I own several Victorinox SAKs and prefer the Free T4 over the SAKs for a few reasons. The T4 is better than the SAKs in hard use situations. The T4 screwdriver blades are stronger and don't appear to deform under pressure like the softer SAK steel. The T4 Phillips is located on the end of the tool instead of the middle, requiring less clearance. All the T4 implements lock firmly so they haven't collapsed on my fingers when I bear down on a stubborn fastener or use the awl to bore a hole in wood. The scissors on my Free T4 cut paracord without the problem shown in your video. That said, my SAK scissors cut paracord more cleanly than the T4 scissors. The T4's fiberglass reinforced nylon spacer doesn't bother me. It looks like the same material used on my Victorinox One Hand Trekker, Spyderco, and Benchmade knives. I prefer dedicated screwdrivers (as found in the T4) to the replaceable bits on my Leatherman Wave and Skeletool multitools. Two things could stand improvement on the FreeT4. The knife blade on mine requires more force to open than I find comfortable. The pocket clip screws tear the threads on my jeans pocket so I carry the T4 in an old, but stylish leather belt holster.
Your perspective is very much appreciated. You make some extremely valid points. You're absolutely correct about the SAK's using a softer metal in their implements and I can see where that would be problematic in screw driving capabilities. The fact that all of the implements lock in place on the T4 is certainly a factor to be considered as well. Thank you for taking the time to express your opinion and reasoning behind your selection. I appreciate you watching my video and for taking the time to comment. Thank you.
Hey Ben, I was circling back to comment after carrying the T4 for a couple weeks. Short version: it has really grown on me. One reason is that the implements lock. I never realized how much I’d value that after carrying a SAK on & off for decades. The biggest weakness of the T4 is that it’s blade is short, has drop point profile and needs to deploy easier (maybe a small stud would help??) The file is my least favorite implement mostly due to length and choice of hatch patterns. The plastic spacer (GFN Maybe?) is slightly roughed on mine and provides more grip than I expected. I may rough it further with a low grit sandpaper. The awl / reamer has worked great for me. Zero complaints. Having it on the end and not in the middle while locking in place makes a big positive difference for me compared to some SAKs. The scissors are better than what I see in yours but just like above, they’re not on par with Victorinox scissors. I particularly like the clip (screws do not wear spots on pants) although I wish there were mounting options to change it up. Lanyard hole could stand to be bigger too. The locktited Torx heads on both sides is a head scratching call to me. Guess they’re trying to discourage people messing with it. I needed to slightly adjust mine but opted not to for concerns over voiding the warranty. With additional use it got where I like it. Still will probably adjust it anyway. After a couple of days, I stopped comparing it to a typical Leatherman multitool and started looking at it as something like a SAK. Once that paradigm shift took place, my satisfaction with it went up. Thanks for all your posts. Really like that you’re representing our state, Texas, well too. -Travis
TC1836 I really love the fact that more and more people are giving back in the comment section with their real life uses and opinions of their own personal multi tools. All of your reasoning sounds completely valid and well thought out, so much in fact that I might want to circle back to this multi tool for a better look. I think I may be guilty of comparing these T-series tools to other Leatherman tools instead of SAK’s myself. I just wish they had opted for a bit better tool set. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. You have me considering that I may have been too hard on this tool.
TX Tool Crib Your videos are different because the focus is on the factual assessment of the tool while being very pragmatic. Many videos on other channels have an over produced and a “slick” feel to them while seeming as if the RUclipsr is the emphasis of the video instead of the actual product review. You come off as a trustworthy neighbor sharing your thoughts. (Maybe that’s a reference to the neighbor Wilson from the Tim Allen TV show “Home Improvement” ha ha) At any rate, I hope this encourages you to keep making them 👍
TC1836 thank you. How you described my videos is exactly how I intended them to be. Be factual, be honest, be unbiased as possible, and try to use my experience to form an opinion free of “fluff”. Hopefully it can be a recipe for success, I’ve found that I actually enjoy doing this. I would like to get into reviewing regular tools and metal fabrication as well. Maybe someday I can turn this into more than just a hobby. I really appreciate you, and all of my subscribers, for taking the time to watch my videos.
The unthinkable happend! I got myself a t4! 😁 The file, for me is just perfect. It all depands on what you need it for. The right tool, for the right job! 👌
As someone who's owned a Leatherman Surge for over 2 years now, I can say that I just love it to bits! One thing I've been experiencing with it though is the screwdriving capabilities aren't as great as it perhaps could have been, which is a bit of a bummer for me, but I still use them in a pinch no problem. I even got the bit kit and ratchet extension driver for it and it's come in handy when really needs be. I've ordered myself this T4 for a few reasons, and I'll see whether it's well worth it by tomorrow when I do get it. Reason number one is it's been a while since I've last carried a pocket knife, and sometimes the surge feels a bit overkill for a smaller job such as opening a box or something of that sort. The 2nd reason is because my medium flat broke on my surge about a year ago when I used it for prying capabilities to break into a door (stupid move, cuz I lost my most used tool that gets used in a pinch, which I still need to get replaced), especially considering that the bit driver doesn't extend far enough down into some slots, which the medium flat could easily reach when I need to replace components in in my field of work because of it's extended reach, so I'm really counting on the tools on the T4 to do just that, not as a replacement for my surge, but an extention to it, considering that these tools seem to be more centered for screwdriving capabilities than they are on the Surge, so yeah. Also I'd really like to send my Surge in for repairs / replacement of the damaged tool, and I can't live without a multitool of sorts, so that's also a reason for getting the T4. Anyways, these are my viewpoints on it so far and my reason for getting it, and I'll see how it turns out to be, and I appreciate your review as it's definitely been showing off it's strong and weak points, so let's see how it goes. Keep up the good content man, appreciate it
Great review. For me as a light user this could have been an edc home run, but the quality isn't there. I'd rather buy a SAK Compact for example. As is, I would buy one to keep in the car or my laptop bag if it was 39.99. At 60 I can buy a variety of SAK and have money to spare. Or go the route of a Skeletool or smaller Leatherman.
Hi there, great review! I waited a long time for a leatherman-pocket-tool with scissors and a locking-blade. Normally I carry a pocket knife and the style CS in one, the PS in the other pocket. Sometimes it‘s only the Skeletool and the CS. Don‘t need the pliers very often, so I thought, the T4 could be my new „almost-all-in-one“, maybe together with the PS and its small pliers... But then I carry two tools again... Decisions; decisions...😅😉 The short blade and the scissors on the T4 leg mehr hesitate. And: The price. 60$ in the States for the T4 is almost a gift, compared to 90 (!!!) EUROS here in Germany...😂😩🤑 Another alternative could be the upcoming K4x, with longer blade AND scissors, but NO pliers....😂😅 Decisions, decisions... Greets from Germany, Oli
I’ve watched so many of your videos in the last few weeks. Excellent content. Hoping we get a Juice replacement in the near future. Would love a mid size plier based multitool from Leatherman. Really bummed I missed the $40 XE6.
Can you make a review video on two Chinese brand EDC? The NexTool Flagship Pro Multi-tool and the Convoy S2+ Flashlight? I have these two cheaper alternatives to a Leatherman’s and Olight’s. I still have no Leatherman’s ‘coz it’s pretty expensive here in the Philippines. Thank you! I love your contents by the way, you always have an in-depth review of every tool you feature. 👍🏼👍🏼 for you man!
@@atongs_edc try Shipping Cart by LBC. Order ka sa Amazon then pa-ship mo doon. They ship via air or sea to doorstep here. Last shipment ko took 6 days by air from California to NCR.
@@maurolorenzotongco5521 thank you sir, I just bought a Wave+ just recently from a third party reseller here, the price is okay. Thank you for sharing this, 🙏🏼
Your review is very good and thorough I just wanted to point out that you are not the only review person that are having issues with those scissors I have watched a couple of others that are claiming the same problem that it does not cut very well through cord
The depth of the T4 vs number of tools it contains, and the plastic it has are why I haven’t been in a hurry to buy one. I still think the file should’ve given up that single cut side for a diamond file. Just me tho. I’ll probably get around to getting one at some point. . . I do like that the tools lock, though! And Tweezers in a tool larger than a keychain tool! Haven’t seen that since the Juice Pro.
TX Tool Crib It’s not totally ideal as you have to lift the scissors and drivers to easily retrieve them (I find it easiest to grab them from the opening on the inside of the handles), but they do fit well and don’t interfere with anything else in the tool. I’m a fan of adding extra functions.
Re: the file…alum, brass, copper, etc. will not be a problem with the scrub sticking to the file for latent magnetism. Not really a file well suited to much more then hobby type work IMO and that rarely involves iron. Just my .02. Would’ve preferred the serrated blade from what, the Sidekick? Anyway, I really like my T4.
I like my t4 but I REALLY wish it had a can opener. I use that allot and I can use other tools on the item to open bottles so I really wish they had done a can opener instead of a bottle opener.
Thanks for the review bud! Just bought one the bottle opener, tweezers, scissors, and a nice sharp blade beats the crap out of the ps4 squirt and the Swiss army sd! Thanks for the in-depth review! I own a signal for some real work but this is great to add to my collection!
Great review! Nice to hear constructive criticism instead of hype. I use a Crater C33T at work, when I'm not using a Skeletool or Wave. The Crater isn't pretty, but the Phillips and Flathead drivers are excellent, similar to my Rebar. The Phillips opens one-handed. It's light, easy to clean & reliable. Seems like the T2 would be a step backwards.
I wasn't sure if I'd pull the trigger and get any Leatherman Free. As you know, I've been watching your videos lately and understood that we are using our multitools and knives in a very similar way. With the Free series, Leatherman have a very good line of multitools that aren't suited for me. My biggest problem with the Free multitools is the lack of the bit holder. In Canada, Robertson (square recess) screws are everywhere, Phillips are second and standard screws are nearly inexistant with new equipment. I just can't justify having a multitool that offers three standard and a single Phillips #2 bits. With Torx and Robertson getting more momentum, there is no reason to not have any ways to customize the screwdriver we want and need to use to carry on our workdays. On nearly all multitools and knives these days, bottle caplifters, can openers and standard screwdrivers are almost more important as the knife blade itself. Designers are no longer challenging themselves with real added value. Focus groups are shaped with casual users to confirm that everything is fine, while heavy users are excluded from them thus not sharing their opinions. I may change my mind but I'll skip all Leatherman Free tools (including the K series). I'll stick with my Leatherman Surge as there is no better alternative. For my dedicated knife, I added a Victorinox Locksmith recently. As far as I'm concerned, it's fairly priced and it's one of the best combination of tools available today. Keep up your excellent work!
I completely understand about the need for a Robertson if you are working in Canada. The Phillips becomes almost useless to you. I think they really missed when they eliminated the bit exchanger from the FREE series. It would have appealed to so many more people had it not lost that capability. It can be a decent tool, if they change up some of the tool set. I still will not go with that type of design, because frankly, the Surge outperforms it in every way imaginable. The Locksmith is a nice multi knife. I like the larger Victorinox knives. That one has a nice selection of working tools.
@@txtoolcrib I don't understand where Leatherman are positioning the Free P2 and P4 in their lineup. It does not replace any of their other multitools. Aside of the pliers, it does offers all its implements access on the outside. In that price range, it challenges only the Victorinox multitools. From what I understand, Torx and Robertson screws are getting more momentum each year in the US, so multitool manufacturers will have to address this as well. There is no better way to do so by implementing a bit holder of any sort. Gerber got their bit holder right with the Center Drive (but haven't figured out the pliers yet). As far as I'm concerned, Leatherman should either give away their bit shape to broaden the usage or simply give up and integrate normal hex bits in their meultitools. There's ain't much to do at this point. I have to agree that Victorinox made it right when purchasing Wenger a few years ago. Many of Victorinox large knives offered today are coming directly from Wenger.
Victorinox SAK at the same price point knocks spots off the Leatherman. More and better designed tools in a slimmer package with Victorinox knives. The larger Leatherman models have their place in rugged use, but even then the Victorinox Spirit series provide strong competition.
Allot of my victornox knives do not have pocket clips or locking blades which is why I wanted totry this one out. I just got mine so the juries still out but I will say its nice knowing my t4 is secure in my pocket. I love my victorinox but I rarely pocket carry them. Ive lost on too many alux ones for me to pocket carry them anymore. 😂😂
The blade length is not the same as the edge length. You were measuring the edge length. The blade starts at the handle. Most companies post a blade length but Spyderco always posts the blade length and edge length separately with all their knives. Specs for para 3 lightweight: Overall Length 7.21" (183mm) Blade Length 2.92" (74mm) Steel CTS BD1N Closed Length 4.29" (109mm) Edge Length 2.58" (66mm)
It's weird how many people seem to own 3-15 of these multi-tools and complain about all of them, but yet keep purchasing them. All of these multi-tools are made to be used in a pinch. All of these multi-tools suck compared to a stand alone tool. The companies that make these are the smart ones, people just keep buying these by the dozens. Please don't take this personally, your review was fine.
I take no offense. I understand where you are coming from. I actually buy most every new multi tool that hits the market because I am a huge fan of the engineering behind them. I started doing reviews of them because I was tired of seeing reviews about tools from individuals with little or no knowledge about what they were reviewing. It’s my way of helping people decide what works for them. It is all opinion based, and what works for me may not work for others. I do try to approach these reviews as honestly as I can though. I hope that you at least found this video informative if nothing else.
Lol kind of true, I'm in the lower end of the 3-15 tool range lol I only own 4 but they're different sizes, and for urban and outdoor settings, and yes I'm fully aware that they should only be used when you can't get hold of a dedicated tool, which unless you are a camper, hiker, cyclist, bushcrafter or into other outdoor pursuits, is not the case lol. Surprised to hear a lot of people carry these in their car, everyone in my family always has a full on toolbox in their car. Btw I am a camper, hiker, and bushcrafter plus I cycle every day. Anyway you're right, people become a bit obsessed with these and end up collecting them, and treating them as fashion accessories or lifestyle statements. Still it's cheaper than being obsessed with tech and buying the latest iPhone every year. At least multitools and knives are still usable decades later, in fact the classic old school ones are the most prized and sought after , and unlike smartphones, they don't become obsolete and unusable.
I know this is old, but regarding the magnets. They would drive me insane as someone who works with metals daily. All they're good for to me is collecting metal dust.
I watched a RUclips Video review from a woman was reviewing " Rough Rider " Triple bladed penknives from China, They were fairly cheap at something like 10 US Dollars maybe including shipping, The reason she was saying they were worth buying is they had 440 Stainless steel blades, And they would hold an edge when wood carving, Anything less and the steel would not hold and edge and she said was not worth buying, You say the blade on this multi tool is 420 high carbon steel, If she is right then really it`s not going to hold an edge, So even if Leatherman factory didn`t spare the hone, It would soon go blunt anyway, The scissors are good though, Better than the Swiss Army Knife, I have never really been convinced of the flat " 3D " Philips screwdrivers, I think your right though, Leatherman if they get the design and price right they could have a blade and scissor based pocket tool to rival the Swiss Army Knives
Chance are they didn’t put a can opener on this bc most cans are pull tab nowadays. Besides 90% of ppl that carries these, there’s a good chance they will have a multi tool on/with them.
It's an interesting idea, but I've always wondered how it will do compared head to head with any 91mm Victorinox sized pocket tools. Hope we can see one in the future.
Maybe LM measured the blade all the way from the back, seemed like u only measured it from the start of the edge... I also do not understand the file size...
This one is on my "never will happen to me wish list"! I'm crafting a lot. And I whittle, I'm really addicted. For crafting, I don't need a surge or a charge. I need a light duty tool. And this one is perfect! I understand you review your tools from a man's point of view. But please, don't forget, there are many many woman in the tool world! 😁
Well, how to put it, err.. Thanks for stopping me from buying a T4... Really. I wanted something light weight and slicker than my Hunstman / Handyman / Swiss Champ. I wonder, even after going through T4's details on the official site, why did I not have half the idea until I watched what you have generously shared with us. Well that's an understatement, I did not have any idea at all.. Now I think, my Victorinoxes, Opinels or regular old school Surges are already more than what I need. The awls are way more functional, the scissors actually cut when I need them to, the knives are not hollow grind (on some of them), and all... To hell with the T4 and P4 :) So they're just cosmetic innovations that the world did not actually need in the first place. Are they really?
There are varying opinions, but I don’t think they really bring anything useful to the table. Though I will say that I do like the K series tools if you like knife based.
Have you looked at the Farmer X alox? Was released about the same time as you wrote this comment. It's got the same toolset as the Huntsman minus corkscrew, hook and small blade, but it's alox so it is slicker, and the blade, openers and especially reamer are thicker and sturdier than on the Huntsman.
@@simonh6371 Thanks for your reply. I'd taken a look before but I had not notice the points you mentioned. I'll definitely take a closer look this time, thanks to you...
"Magnets are not a good idea on a Multitool..." thank you, because it interferes in too many ways with it's surroundings - and also will not holt up it's magnetic load forever and when it's loosing it's magnetic grip, then you're tool is worthless... instead of the ridiculously small file maybe they should have added their can opener with wire stripper in this tool set (?)
@@txtoolcrib Everybody was complaining about these in the Gerber Dime already while Leatherman instead did a proper job with the file on the PS4 - why on earth does Leatherman copy flaws from Gerber now, hope the won't make a habit of it... 🙆🏻♂️
I appreciate your review, however I’m baffled that you completely ignored the fact that this is a one-handed tool by design and is what sets it apart from the competition. In my opinion this review should be revisited/redone with the intended functionality put front and center.
It does seem like a random selection of tools on this... should have looked to Victorinox... say the Cadet or farmer and did it that way... probably would have rocked it! could have gone with 4 tools and included a bit driver like you said... would have been awesome
I think you're right. Both this tool and the T2 could have been real winners. I think they fall a little short of the mark though. It seems to me that they kind of went backwards on the tools. Maybe with all the criticism these new Free series tools have seen, maybe we will see a redesign in the future with some better tool sets.
Late to the party but I dont mind the selection of tools. I dont see this as a tool that's meant to work on stuff all the time. This is a tool for someone who needs a knife and wants the next few logical tools for day to day stuff you encounter. I dont want to say office warrior but its not for the guy who can regularly make use of a full LM. Scissors, screwdrivers and a pry tool are super useful and the next logical tools I think of after a knife. The awl and the file are a bit of a situational thing in my mind but they worked some flat heads into those so they may come in handy more than I think. Tweezers are always nice to have. If it were my design I'd dump the awl and file and try to fit an LED for finding stuff that I drop. The real advantage to me over a SAK is the locking tools.
This is a poor design on a Leatherman tool. And if you plan to spend that much money on this, might as well go for a Juice model or Skeletool, maybe a Rebar.
Love the idea but they need to lower the price to about ~$35-$40; not a bad design though (tested how it would handle with a frankenstein standin I made with an ozark trail camping multitool of similar size and now have parts lying around)
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Magnets are the most amazing feature of a multitool. My Free P4 it’s something from another planet along the other multi tools. I wouldn’t think that the one handed feature I have to use so many times! I just love this thing!
Totally agree with you, for that price point and dimensions you can choose a better set of tools in Victorinox. They are the standard in non pliers based tools. Proven quality and lifetime warranty
The great thing about SAK’s is that there is such a variety as well. Most everyone can find the knife that best suits their individual needs.
T4 has a huge advantage agains SAKs - it has steel scales, +the glass-filled nylon(g10) - I don't forsee it to loose visuals over time. And overall it is sturdier multitool in all aspects, imo, althrought a little chunky. All tools lock, that's a big advantage. Personally i'm not a big fan of Victorinox rounded aestetics with that useless corkscrew(i don't drink solvents, other than water), and for me, T4 just feels nicier. The only problems are the blade shape and the price(85e in Finland).
@@ScriptoZe You're basing your view of SAKs on celidor models with corkscrews, which are not the only type of SAK, although they're the archetype of a traditional SAK. Btw the T4 doesn't have steel scales, they're aluminium. Victorinox alox models also have aluminium scales, and are sturdier than the celidor (plastic) scaled models, including having thicker blades. They don't however have locking blades, for me that isn't an issue as (a) we're not allowed to carry locking knives in the UK but more importantly (b) I was taught as a 10 year old boy scout to always cut away from myself, never towards. A Victorinox Pioneer X - the one with scissors - would outclass this, although it doesn't have the stubby little file or a Phillips, but the can opener end is adequate for most Phillips screws. You could even get a Farmer X - which has an added saw blade - and still pay less than for the T4.
@@simonh6371 As I told, I don't like the rounded Victorinox aestetics, so T4 is more pleasing to my eye. I'm aware of Pieneer X, it's a fine knife, but it's larger. T4 is just the perfect size, and I can open it one-handed + it has tweesers, so I don't see any outclassing there. Well the saw... I could live without it, considering that it makes the knife even bulkier. BTW I'm pretty sure the T4 scales are stainles steel by the looks of it.
I'm a building engineer and I rely on my leatherman wave (with kit) and my victorinox explorer for my day to day. Looks like I'll be sticking with the team I have for now. Thank you for your honest opinion Ben. Much appreciated.
You are very welcome sir, and thank you for taking the time to watch.
@@txtoolcrib no man its not you're model mine wont cut para-cord either. We all juggle knives blasted them on this issue. From what ive seen its that the blade grind is too thick
the scissor problem is the rivet. I've owned 2 leatherman squirt PS4's. One cut like absolute garbage (rivet was loose). Lost this one and bought another to realize the scissors cut like a dream (rivet is tight). Leatherman QC on the scissors could use work I guess...
Thanks for posting your thoughts on the Free T4. I have been using a Free T4 almost daily over the past few weeks and have been impressed with its performance and construction.
I own several Victorinox SAKs and prefer the Free T4 over the SAKs for a few reasons. The T4 is better than the SAKs in hard use situations. The T4 screwdriver blades are stronger and don't appear to deform under pressure like the softer SAK steel. The T4 Phillips is located on the end of the tool instead of the middle, requiring less clearance. All the T4 implements lock firmly so they haven't collapsed on my fingers when I bear down on a stubborn fastener or use the awl to bore a hole in wood.
The scissors on my Free T4 cut paracord without the problem shown in your video. That said, my SAK scissors cut paracord more cleanly than the T4 scissors.
The T4's fiberglass reinforced nylon spacer doesn't bother me. It looks like the same material used on my Victorinox One Hand Trekker, Spyderco, and Benchmade knives.
I prefer dedicated screwdrivers (as found in the T4) to the replaceable bits on my Leatherman Wave and Skeletool multitools.
Two things could stand improvement on the FreeT4. The knife blade on mine requires more force to open than I find comfortable. The pocket clip screws tear the threads on my jeans pocket so I carry the T4 in an old, but stylish leather belt holster.
Your perspective is very much appreciated. You make some extremely valid points. You're absolutely correct about the SAK's using a softer metal in their implements and I can see where that would be problematic in screw driving capabilities. The fact that all of the implements lock in place on the T4 is certainly a factor to be considered as well.
Thank you for taking the time to express your opinion and reasoning behind your selection. I appreciate you watching my video and for taking the time to comment. Thank you.
Hey Ben,
I was circling back to comment after carrying the T4 for a couple weeks. Short version: it has really grown on me.
One reason is that the implements lock. I never realized how much I’d value that after carrying a SAK on & off for decades.
The biggest weakness of the T4 is that it’s blade is short, has drop point profile and needs to deploy easier (maybe a small stud would help??)
The file is my least favorite implement mostly due to length and choice of hatch patterns. The plastic spacer (GFN Maybe?) is slightly roughed on mine and provides more grip than I expected. I may rough it further with a low grit sandpaper.
The awl / reamer has worked great for me. Zero complaints. Having it on the end and not in the middle while locking in place makes a big positive difference for me compared to some SAKs.
The scissors are better than what I see in yours but just like above, they’re not on par with Victorinox scissors.
I particularly like the clip (screws do not wear spots on pants) although I wish there were mounting options to change it up. Lanyard hole could stand to be bigger too.
The locktited Torx heads on both sides is a head scratching call to me. Guess they’re trying to discourage people messing with it. I needed to slightly adjust mine but opted not to for concerns over voiding the warranty. With additional use it got where I like it. Still will probably adjust it anyway.
After a couple of days, I stopped comparing it to a typical Leatherman multitool and started looking at it as something like a SAK. Once that paradigm shift took place, my satisfaction with it went up.
Thanks for all your posts. Really like that you’re representing our state, Texas, well too.
-Travis
TC1836 I really love the fact that more and more people are giving back in the comment section with their real life uses and opinions of their own personal multi tools. All of your reasoning sounds completely valid and well thought out, so much in fact that I might want to circle back to this multi tool for a better look. I think I may be guilty of comparing these T-series tools to other Leatherman tools instead of SAK’s myself. I just wish they had opted for a bit better tool set. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. You have me considering that I may have been too hard on this tool.
TX Tool Crib Your videos are different because the focus is on the factual assessment of the tool while being very pragmatic. Many videos on other channels have an over produced and a “slick” feel to them while seeming as if the RUclipsr is the emphasis of the video instead of the actual product review.
You come off as a trustworthy neighbor sharing your thoughts. (Maybe that’s a reference to the neighbor Wilson from the Tim Allen TV show “Home Improvement” ha ha)
At any rate, I hope this encourages you to keep making them 👍
TC1836 thank you. How you described my videos is exactly how I intended them to be. Be factual, be honest, be unbiased as possible, and try to use my experience to form an opinion free of “fluff”. Hopefully it can be a recipe for success, I’ve found that I actually enjoy doing this. I would like to get into reviewing regular tools and metal fabrication as well. Maybe someday I can turn this into more than just a hobby.
I really appreciate you, and all of my subscribers, for taking the time to watch my videos.
The unthinkable happend! I got myself a t4! 😁
The file, for me is just perfect. It all depands on what you need it for. The right tool, for the right job! 👌
As someone who's owned a Leatherman Surge for over 2 years now, I can say that I just love it to bits! One thing I've been experiencing with it though is the screwdriving capabilities aren't as great as it perhaps could have been, which is a bit of a bummer for me, but I still use them in a pinch no problem. I even got the bit kit and ratchet extension driver for it and it's come in handy when really needs be. I've ordered myself this T4 for a few reasons, and I'll see whether it's well worth it by tomorrow when I do get it. Reason number one is it's been a while since I've last carried a pocket knife, and sometimes the surge feels a bit overkill for a smaller job such as opening a box or something of that sort. The 2nd reason is because my medium flat broke on my surge about a year ago when I used it for prying capabilities to break into a door (stupid move, cuz I lost my most used tool that gets used in a pinch, which I still need to get replaced), especially considering that the bit driver doesn't extend far enough down into some slots, which the medium flat could easily reach when I need to replace components in in my field of work because of it's extended reach, so I'm really counting on the tools on the T4 to do just that, not as a replacement for my surge, but an extention to it, considering that these tools seem to be more centered for screwdriving capabilities than they are on the Surge, so yeah. Also I'd really like to send my Surge in for repairs / replacement of the damaged tool, and I can't live without a multitool of sorts, so that's also a reason for getting the T4. Anyways, these are my viewpoints on it so far and my reason for getting it, and I'll see how it turns out to be, and I appreciate your review as it's definitely been showing off it's strong and weak points, so let's see how it goes. Keep up the good content man, appreciate it
Great review. For me as a light user this could have been an edc home run, but the quality isn't there. I'd rather buy a SAK Compact for example. As is, I would buy one to keep in the car or my laptop bag if it was 39.99. At 60 I can buy a variety of SAK and have money to spare. Or go the route of a Skeletool or smaller Leatherman.
I completely agree.
Hi there,
great review! I waited a long time for a leatherman-pocket-tool with scissors and a locking-blade. Normally I carry a pocket knife and the style CS in one, the PS in the other pocket. Sometimes it‘s only the Skeletool and the CS. Don‘t need the pliers very often, so I thought, the T4 could be my new „almost-all-in-one“, maybe together with the PS and its small pliers... But then I carry two tools again...
Decisions; decisions...😅😉
The short blade and the scissors on the T4 leg mehr hesitate. And: The price. 60$ in the States for the T4 is almost a gift, compared to 90 (!!!) EUROS here in Germany...😂😩🤑
Another alternative could be the upcoming K4x, with longer blade AND scissors, but NO pliers....😂😅
Decisions, decisions...
Greets from Germany,
Oli
I think you might consider the new K series. Sounds like it might work better for you.
I’ve watched so many of your videos in the last few weeks. Excellent content.
Hoping we get a Juice replacement in the near future. Would love a mid size plier based multitool from Leatherman. Really bummed I missed the $40 XE6.
Thanks Ben, I like this tool a lot, but I think you are spot on with your critique.
Thank you for a very detailed review of the T4, specially on the scissors. Was planning to buy the T4, made me think for a little longer. Thanks man!
You’re very welcome.
Can you make a review video on two Chinese brand EDC? The NexTool Flagship Pro Multi-tool and the Convoy S2+ Flashlight? I have these two cheaper alternatives to a Leatherman’s and Olight’s. I still have no Leatherman’s ‘coz it’s pretty expensive here in the Philippines. Thank you! I love your contents by the way, you always have an in-depth review of every tool you feature. 👍🏼👍🏼 for you man!
@@atongs_edc try Shipping Cart by LBC. Order ka sa Amazon then pa-ship mo doon. They ship via air or sea to doorstep here. Last shipment ko took 6 days by air from California to NCR.
@@maurolorenzotongco5521 thank you sir, I just bought a Wave+ just recently from a third party reseller here, the price is okay. Thank you for sharing this, 🙏🏼
Thanks for your channel! I have this knife, I love it!
Your review is very good and thorough I just wanted to point out that you are not the only review person that are having issues with those scissors I have watched a couple of others that are claiming the same problem that it does not cut very well through cord
Thank you very much.
The depth of the T4 vs number of tools it contains, and the plastic it has are why I haven’t been in a hurry to buy one.
I still think the file should’ve given up that single cut side for a diamond file. Just me tho. I’ll probably get around to getting one at some point. . .
I do like that the tools lock, though! And Tweezers in a tool larger than a keychain tool! Haven’t seen that since the Juice Pro.
I agree, I also like the fact that it comes with a set of tweezers. Would have been nice had they incorporated the tweezers into the T2 as well.
TX Tool Crib Agreed. My P4 now carries Victorinox tweezers under the scissors with the help of some teeny neodymium magnets.
That’s an excellent idea!
TX Tool Crib It’s not totally ideal as you have to lift the scissors and drivers to easily retrieve them (I find it easiest to grab them from the opening on the inside of the handles), but they do fit well and don’t interfere with anything else in the tool. I’m a fan of adding extra functions.
Wow really amazing looking Leatherman Free T4 design!!! :D
Thanks
@@txtoolcrib you're welcome 😊
I appreciate the metric dimensions - thanks
You’re welcome, thank you for watching.
This is a great in-depth review. Thanks!
Informative in terms of user experience, and concise. Thanks ben
Re: the file…alum, brass, copper, etc. will not be a problem with the scrub sticking to the file for latent magnetism. Not really a file well suited to much more then hobby type work IMO and that rarely involves iron. Just my .02.
Would’ve preferred the serrated blade from what, the Sidekick? Anyway, I really like my T4.
Is that Grey part in the middle plastic? I expected better from leatherman
I want to see tweezers in more leatherman tools
I like my t4 but I REALLY wish it had a can opener. I use that allot and I can use other tools on the item to open bottles so I really wish they had done a can opener instead of a bottle opener.
Thanks for the review bud! Just bought one the bottle opener, tweezers, scissors, and a nice sharp blade beats the crap out of the ps4 squirt and the Swiss army sd! Thanks for the in-depth review! I own a signal for some real work but this is great to add to my collection!
Great review! Nice to hear constructive criticism instead of hype. I use a Crater C33T at work, when I'm not using a Skeletool or Wave. The Crater isn't pretty, but the Phillips and Flathead drivers are excellent, similar to my Rebar. The Phillips opens one-handed. It's light, easy to clean & reliable. Seems like the T2 would be a step backwards.
I agree with your assessment.
Totally agree with your assessment
@TXToolCrib What type of different tool would you have subbed out the file for?
I wasn't sure if I'd pull the trigger and get any Leatherman Free. As you know, I've been watching your videos lately and understood that we are using our multitools and knives in a very similar way.
With the Free series, Leatherman have a very good line of multitools that aren't suited for me. My biggest problem with the Free multitools is the lack of the bit holder. In Canada, Robertson (square recess) screws are everywhere, Phillips are second and standard screws are nearly inexistant with new equipment. I just can't justify having a multitool that offers three standard and a single Phillips #2 bits. With Torx and Robertson getting more momentum, there is no reason to not have any ways to customize the screwdriver we want and need to use to carry on our workdays.
On nearly all multitools and knives these days, bottle caplifters, can openers and standard screwdrivers are almost more important as the knife blade itself. Designers are no longer challenging themselves with real added value. Focus groups are shaped with casual users to confirm that everything is fine, while heavy users are excluded from them thus not sharing their opinions.
I may change my mind but I'll skip all Leatherman Free tools (including the K series). I'll stick with my Leatherman Surge as there is no better alternative. For my dedicated knife, I added a Victorinox Locksmith recently. As far as I'm concerned, it's fairly priced and it's one of the best combination of tools available today.
Keep up your excellent work!
I completely understand about the need for a Robertson if you are working in Canada. The Phillips becomes almost useless to you. I think they really missed when they eliminated the bit exchanger from the FREE series. It would have appealed to so many more people had it not lost that capability. It can be a decent tool, if they change up some of the tool set. I still will not go with that type of design, because frankly, the Surge outperforms it in every way imaginable.
The Locksmith is a nice multi knife. I like the larger Victorinox knives. That one has a nice selection of working tools.
@@txtoolcrib I don't understand where Leatherman are positioning the Free P2 and P4 in their lineup. It does not replace any of their other multitools. Aside of the pliers, it does offers all its implements access on the outside. In that price range, it challenges only the Victorinox multitools.
From what I understand, Torx and Robertson screws are getting more momentum each year in the US, so multitool manufacturers will have to address this as well. There is no better way to do so by implementing a bit holder of any sort. Gerber got their bit holder right with the Center Drive (but haven't figured out the pliers yet).
As far as I'm concerned, Leatherman should either give away their bit shape to broaden the usage or simply give up and integrate normal hex bits in their meultitools. There's ain't much to do at this point.
I have to agree that Victorinox made it right when purchasing Wenger a few years ago. Many of Victorinox large knives offered today are coming directly from Wenger.
Victorinox SAK at the same price point knocks spots off the Leatherman. More and better designed tools in a slimmer package with Victorinox knives. The larger Leatherman models have their place in rugged use, but even then the Victorinox Spirit series provide strong competition.
I think that if they adjust the price on the T4 it will have a better chance with competing with the variety of SAKs out there.
Allot of my victornox knives do not have pocket clips or locking blades which is why I wanted totry this one out. I just got mine so the juries still out but I will say its nice knowing my t4 is secure in my pocket. I love my victorinox but I rarely pocket carry them. Ive lost on too many alux ones for me to pocket carry them anymore. 😂😂
Just found out about your channel and your reviews are superb!
Thank you very much, I appreciate that and for you taking the time to watch my videos.
I definitely agree on this ...
The blade length is not the same as the edge length. You were measuring the edge length. The blade starts at the handle. Most companies post a blade length but Spyderco always posts the blade length and edge length separately with all their knives.
Specs for para 3 lightweight:
Overall Length 7.21" (183mm)
Blade Length 2.92" (74mm)
Steel CTS BD1N
Closed Length 4.29" (109mm)
Edge Length 2.58" (66mm)
It's weird how many people seem to own 3-15 of these multi-tools and complain about all of them, but yet keep purchasing them. All of these multi-tools are made to be used in a pinch. All of these multi-tools suck compared to a stand alone tool. The companies that make these are the smart ones, people just keep buying these by the dozens. Please don't take this personally, your review was fine.
I take no offense. I understand where you are coming from. I actually buy most every new multi tool that hits the market because I am a huge fan of the engineering behind them. I started doing reviews of them because I was tired of seeing reviews about tools from individuals with little or no knowledge about what they were reviewing. It’s my way of helping people decide what works for them. It is all opinion based, and what works for me may not work for others. I do try to approach these reviews as honestly as I can though. I hope that you at least found this video informative if nothing else.
Lol kind of true, I'm in the lower end of the 3-15 tool range lol I only own 4 but they're different sizes, and for urban and outdoor settings, and yes I'm fully aware that they should only be used when you can't get hold of a dedicated tool, which unless you are a camper, hiker, cyclist, bushcrafter or into other outdoor pursuits, is not the case lol. Surprised to hear a lot of people carry these in their car, everyone in my family always has a full on toolbox in their car. Btw I am a camper, hiker, and bushcrafter plus I cycle every day.
Anyway you're right, people become a bit obsessed with these and end up collecting them, and treating them as fashion accessories or lifestyle statements. Still it's cheaper than being obsessed with tech and buying the latest iPhone every year. At least multitools and knives are still usable decades later, in fact the classic old school ones are the most prized and sought after , and unlike smartphones, they don't become obsolete and unusable.
I know this is old, but regarding the magnets. They would drive me insane as someone who works with metals daily. All they're good for to me is collecting metal dust.
I watched a RUclips Video review from a woman was reviewing " Rough Rider " Triple bladed penknives from China, They were fairly cheap at something like 10 US Dollars maybe including shipping, The reason she was saying they were worth buying is they had 440 Stainless steel blades, And they would hold an edge when wood carving, Anything less and the steel would not hold and edge and she said was not worth buying, You say the blade on this multi tool is 420 high carbon steel, If she is right then really it`s not going to hold an edge, So even if Leatherman factory didn`t spare the hone, It would soon go blunt anyway, The scissors are good though, Better than the Swiss Army Knife, I have never really been convinced of the flat " 3D " Philips screwdrivers, I think your right though, Leatherman if they get the design and price right they could have a blade and scissor based pocket tool to rival the Swiss Army Knives
Chance are they didn’t put a can opener on this bc most cans are pull tab nowadays. Besides 90% of ppl that carries these, there’s a good chance they will have a multi tool on/with them.
I love Leatherman free t4 use everyday
It's an interesting idea, but I've always wondered how it will do compared head to head with any 91mm Victorinox sized pocket tools. Hope we can see one in the future.
That’s a good idea.
@@txtoolcrib Yeah this versus the Ranger, since the ranger is MSRP at $55 should be a good price compare.
Better to compare it to a 93mm alox model e.g. Pioneer X or Farmer X.
Maybe LM measured the blade all the way from the back, seemed like u only measured it from the start of the edge... I also do not understand the file size...
I’m sure they are measuring all the way from the back, and that is disingenuous because it’s not the real blade length.
Maybe Leatherman measure the curve of the blade length.
Merci pour cette vidéo, dans l'état actuel des choses ce Leatherman ne risque pas de concurrencer Victorinox !
They do seem to have lost their way a little bit.
This one is on my "never will happen to me wish list"!
I'm crafting a lot. And I whittle, I'm really addicted. For crafting, I don't need a surge or a charge. I need a light duty tool. And this one is perfect! I understand you review your tools from a man's point of view. But please, don't forget, there are many many woman in the tool world! 😁
A point well taken.
Great review, Thanks!
Most fans of Leatherman are like, 'you don't like your new leatherman? ...wanna sell it???'.
Heh.
Lol. How true that is.
Well, how to put it, err..
Thanks for stopping me from buying a T4... Really.
I wanted something light weight and slicker than my Hunstman / Handyman / Swiss Champ.
I wonder, even after going through T4's details on the official site, why did I not have half the idea until I watched what you have generously shared with us. Well that's an understatement, I did not have any idea at all..
Now I think, my Victorinoxes, Opinels or regular old school Surges are already more than what I need. The awls are way more functional, the scissors actually cut when I need them to, the knives are not hollow grind (on some of them), and all...
To hell with the T4 and P4 :) So they're just cosmetic innovations that the world did not actually need in the first place.
Are they really?
There are varying opinions, but I don’t think they really bring anything useful to the table. Though I will say that I do like the K series tools if you like knife based.
Have you looked at the Farmer X alox? Was released about the same time as you wrote this comment. It's got the same toolset as the Huntsman minus corkscrew, hook and small blade, but it's alox so it is slicker, and the blade, openers and especially reamer are thicker and sturdier than on the Huntsman.
@@simonh6371 Thanks for your reply. I'd taken a look before but I had not notice the points you mentioned. I'll definitely take a closer look this time, thanks to you...
Over priced, but it's a "new" release and the price should come down over time.
Hopefully you are right.
If this had a saw I’d shelf my SAK and carry this instead
"Magnets are not a good idea on a Multitool..." thank you, because it interferes in too many ways with it's surroundings - and also will not holt up it's magnetic load forever and when it's loosing it's magnetic grip, then you're tool is worthless... instead of the ridiculously small file maybe they should have added their can opener with wire stripper in this tool set (?)
I think they should have definitely opted for something in place of the file. Maybe a true awl would have worked as well.
@@txtoolcrib Everybody was complaining about these in the Gerber Dime already while Leatherman instead did a proper job with the file on the PS4 - why on earth does Leatherman copy flaws from Gerber now, hope the won't make a habit of it... 🙆🏻♂️
I don’t have an answer for that one.
Why the smallest blade of my life lol? Honestly would prefer Victorinox
I think I also prefer several Victorinox models over the Free T-series as well.
I appreciate your review, however I’m baffled that you completely ignored the fact that this is a one-handed tool by design and is what sets it apart from the competition. In my opinion this review should be revisited/redone with the intended functionality put front and center.
nice review thx
scissors work well with weed yeah?
It does seem like a random selection of tools on this... should have looked to Victorinox... say the Cadet or farmer and did it that way... probably would have rocked it! could have gone with 4 tools and included a bit driver like you said... would have been awesome
I think you're right. Both this tool and the T2 could have been real winners. I think they fall a little short of the mark though. It seems to me that they kind of went backwards on the tools. Maybe with all the criticism these new Free series tools have seen, maybe we will see a redesign in the future with some better tool sets.
I mean they are close but yet not... they should have made a Leatherman version of the Victorinox Farmer
Late to the party but I dont mind the selection of tools. I dont see this as a tool that's meant to work on stuff all the time. This is a tool for someone who needs a knife and wants the next few logical tools for day to day stuff you encounter. I dont want to say office warrior but its not for the guy who can regularly make use of a full LM. Scissors, screwdrivers and a pry tool are super useful and the next logical tools I think of after a knife. The awl and the file are a bit of a situational thing in my mind but they worked some flat heads into those so they may come in handy more than I think. Tweezers are always nice to have. If it were my design I'd dump the awl and file and try to fit an LED for finding stuff that I drop. The real advantage to me over a SAK is the locking tools.
I can buy a Victorinox Swiss Champ, or Ranger, or Handyman for lesser than this in India right now on Amazon.in.
All good selections as well.
skip to 2 min for the video
This is a poor design on a Leatherman tool. And if you plan to spend that much money on this, might as well go for a Juice model or Skeletool, maybe a Rebar.
I feel like, for the money, it should offer more capability than what it does.
POS
It’s weak. Swiss army wins.
Love the idea but they need to lower the price to about ~$35-$40; not a bad design though (tested how it would handle with a frankenstein standin I made with an ozark trail camping multitool of similar size and now have parts lying around)
I agree on the price point, way too high.