Best debrief on the ASA I have seen so far. I can 100% relate to the situation you describe, e.g. these tight hairpin turns, or very slippery parts.... thanks for a great video. And these off-road tracks look really great!
So glad you made this video! I was leaning towards the ASA, but I’ve been in the scenario you described/showed (starting @ 5:43) and I definitely want the ability to coast over slippery surfaces by engaging the clutch. Thank you for sharing your insights on this beast of a bike! 🤠
Interesting and validates exactly what I was thinking. I can't get past the look of it so I haven't ordered one but I definitely wouldn't have the ASA gearbox if I did.
I agree with your comments on the ASA and not having a clutch, it would be very odd to not be able to roll without drive, and the lack of feel from the gear leaver.
I think it will get some time to get used to the ASA offroad as you will have to trust the system a lot. Any rider with a lot offroad experience has learned some reflexes about use of throttle and clutch and selected gear in difficult situations. The situation you describes are such typical situations. That slippery stretch...would it really be better pulling in the clutch? Yes obvious on a trailbike without any Engine Slip Control, Traction Control or ABS. But on this bike ? Im not sure. I can completely understand your reflexes and thoughts about it though. What I have heard from riders getting used to the DTC of Africa Twin they think it is great also offroad. I think it will be wrong to omit ASA on basis on this review alone. I think it will be clearer when more riders have been used to it, maybe also trained offroad with ASA. It would not be a surprise to me if, after some time, people will recommend it also for offroad. Its too early yet to judge the bike. But I appreciate your opinion, it counts as many others that will come 🙂
Totally agree with your comments about the ASA both on and off road.For me it was too intrusive but that could have been operator error.Im going to have another test ride just to see.
Just a wee clarification. "Unsatisfying" is an adjective - or a describing word. --IE. " The ASA has an unsatisfying movement. " Yet "Dissatisfying" is a verb. - or an acting or doing word --IE. " The quick-shifter was dissatisfying." PS. I do ride a 1250GSA, so I hope you forgive me for the quick lesson on word-smithing. Love your work son; Cheers!
Hi Steve, I have not ridden a BMW with the new automatic transmission and value your opinions. I spent many years training off road techniques to drivers of various cars and trucks as well as racing motocross as a hobby. I would recommend you enrol on the BMW Motorrad courses for GS riders to get the very best out of both your GS’s. Stay safe.
I am not a pro, and maybe because of that, I always enter the hairpins in 1st gear, and I modulate it with the clutch. I guess with ASA, where there is no engine stalling, so you can just go stable speed, but of course, that needs to be lower from start, so you don't engine break. My 2 cents, anyway. I try to keep it positive thinking since my 1300 GSA with ASA is on the way 😅Great video!
Trust me, you’ll be very pleased with the ASA . Maybe I did not come across clearly enough, but it’s more about these tight hair pins when slippery when wet.
Probably BMW didnt remember that riding a bike is not like a driving a car.😊 This GSA-ASA will certainly find enthousiasts who will love that ASA like big SUV cars which never goes into mud.😅
I'm quite surprised that the Dynamic Engine Brake Control (MSR) didn't do a better job of handling the rear slip. I see that you were in manual mode in 2nd. Would be curious to know how it might handle that in Drive mode.
Maybe it would have done a better job in Drive but I still have to put my faith in it first. Drive box definitely jerks. That’s my experience of it so if it decided to auto down change from 2nd to 1st on the slippy stuff, this could have been worse.
What’s the point of ASA ? Are we becoming so tired or lazy that we need to hand over everything to the bike ECU? Are we looking for a tenth of a second improvement in our lap times or in our commute times ? Is it that hard to pull the clutch while in traffic ? Are you going to go further or last longer with it ? Are you going to go more adventurous or in more remote places with ? It’s just another thing that is more expensive and more prone to break down. My dealer told me they received a letter of BMW central not to push the sale of ASA, it being not totally without flaws.
One purpose of BMW's ASA, if it's in effect like Honda's DCT, is to be a great aid to bikers in town or traffic. Or one could see it as a safety aid by being one less thing to worry about and allows the rider to just enjoy being on 2 wheels: leaning, turning, wind, accelerating. I will probably buy one!
I know that crossing Steve, not far from the ponderosa, I used to like riding that road/trail but I avoid now due to how slippery it is, don’t wanna be picking my gsa up on my own out there lol
@steve when you daisy chain 2 cansmart does it have to be the same cansmart that is for a specific bike or you can do one for a specific bike and the other is not? TIA
I have recently started trailbraking using the front brake. Not necessarily on hairpins but tight corners nevertheless. My intention is to increase weight to the front tire in a very gradual process which will increase grip (in the dry). It works very well and helps me ride corners faster. It’s literally a balance of Throttle and light front breaking at the same time. The emphasis is on balance so they are not fighting between each other. I generally like to do all my breaking before I need to turn my front wheel for a hairpin. Every now and then we need to slow the motorcycle down a little bit more, And rear break is our only option on ASA. I prefer to pull in the clutch.
@@ABIKETHING haven't tried ASA, but will be upgrading from my R1250RS to the 1300 when an ASA version comes out, because the lad above is right - rear brake use. Why I'm confident ASA will work for me? Almost 30k on on a Honda Vultus (DCT) in Alps, Tatras, Karapathies and Norwegian fjords. Never an issue - you drag the rear brake on gravel to keep the front light, in hairpins to keep revs up and smooth and in traffic with throttle pulses to move at snail speed.
We don’t make a habit of publishing them, but that’s not because we don’t want to. It’s just that we don’t. More than happy to share routes but I will need to set something up on our website where you can view and download them
@@myjodel117 I was thinking more of the technique. If there is some power in the battery, and you are at the top of a hill everyone pushing the bike, if there is no clutch lever to pull in, how would you engage the gear? Would pushing down on the gear lever at the right speed be the same as dumping the clutch?
@@frankspeakmore7104 So you happen to be at the top of a hill, with people around to push you.. and have only a partly drained battery. With that slim scenario, I’d just call the ATeam 😂😂
Great video highlighting your findings up until now ! I was wondering… maybe not the best solution but anyway, here goes. If when riding in off road mode you could activate/deactivate neutral functionality by ,let say tapping the whizz wheel 3 times in quick succession. Then when approaching a slippery section combined with a hairpin you could press the whizz wheel ever so slightly as you’re rolling through… An easy fix from an electronic perspective these days, but would it make a difference ? Your thoughts?
@@philbanks1306 yeah sounds about right. It wouldn’t be the same but it would probably benefit the off road customers that still want to try out the ASA. It’s going to be interesting to follow this new path from BMW.
If I had a clutch? I also wasn’t expecting that surface so are you saying I should be toggling modes on the fly in this riding scenario? In reality….press mode button on right, scroll wheel on left to desired mode, wait for mode to update then ride through the section? I’m used to toggling modes when I know I’m going from tarmac to rough stuff but a tiny section we see here is not practical to be toggling modes. Easier to just pull in the clutch and roll on through.
@@ABIKETHINGDynamic mode wasn't the best mode to be in on any of the roads\tracks in the video. They were all either wet or gravel tracks. What was wrong with using Rain or even Enduro mode on the gravel tracks. Dynamic would be too viscous on the throttle.
Excellent, been waiting to see this vid since you mentioned it from the fitout. Definitely going to have to take a demo ASA out for a spin and see what it's all about. THanks for the info on how disconnected the ASA is from the gearbox when compared with the current QuickShifter on the 1250. I'd still hope to go for the ASA in a couple of years when I can afford the upgrade, but commuting in traffic is my main use for the bike currently. Seen the other vids from 44teeth and TeaPot and a long-term owner review will be my next goto vid. Thanks again, and happy trails
Thanks Steve. Confirmed everything I thought about using the ASA offroad. Interesting re the 1300 GSA feeling heavier or a little more sketchy than the 1250 GSA offroad. See if you get the bug to put some offroad tires on it and see if that makes any difference after a bit more time on it. Love your work. 👍
Hey how good that I came across your video , because I have ordered a GS 1300 adv with an ASA clutch and after seeing this footage it confirms to me that I made the wrong choice and will be changing to a traditional clutch , because I also intend to ride off road . :)
Or maybe you should embrace the ASA? I’m not saying that ASA is the wrong choice. This video just highlights my thoughts of what I’m comfortable with. Since making this video, I have got more confident in the ASA. But it’s worth noting, if I had the option to go ASA on my dirtbike, it would be a definite no
@@ABIKETHING I just happen to be fresh from testing the ADV with the ASA system and had the opportunity to ride it off-road in the sand , I missed the clutch handle a lot , I wanted to point out that I ride off-road motorcycles every day and off-road I use the clutch a lot . Below is my latest video from a trip to Romania on an off-road motorcycle :) ruclips.net/video/S_H5Yjd8dB8/видео.html
I spoke to a BMW tech and he explained that engine braking should not be engaged until slight front brake pressure is applied. Until this happens no engine braking should be present ?
Now that is interesting but the more I repeat that to myself the more it can’t be true. I can engine break all the way down a gear box without touching the brakes.
Yeah it didn’t make any sense to me. Anyway I can’t give any comment yet as I haven’t ridden the ASA 1300GSA yet. Soon ,I have one on order with the ASA. Look forward to any further experience you have with it. CHEERS
Off road the throttle is “requesting power” and the clutch and brakes are “control” the movement and rule no1 of water crossing is no power. Those are my thoughts on the ASA too given the Australian adventure riding I do, thus I ordered my GSA without.
@@a9503128water always finds it's own level so if you are crossing a stream it will be nearly flat. So if you just go into it (unless you come down a hill into it) you will stop if you don't have SOME drive.
All you guys who are unfamiliar with auto or semi auto bikes should really stop trying to comment on them. You don’t know how to use then yet and it takes a while to learn how. In addition, the more sophisticated systems “learn” your riding stile and you’ll notice the shifting becomes smoother and shifting point more to your style of riding. For some who has almost 300,000 miles and DCT, and Yamaha’s YCCS systems, I think I know what I’m talking about. One you learn hot to use them, you won’t go Bach to traditional shifting.
I genuinely hear your frustration with me and others who don’t know it as well as you do. It doesn’t mean I can’t comment on my experience of it thus far? You’re the second person to mention the learning abilities of the system. I still have not looked into this yet but this feels like you’re telling me 2 identical bikes with ASA will never be the same if one is ridden by someone with loads of off road experience and the other is used to fetch coffee occasionally and never leaves the asphalt.
The GSA doesn't have A front brake, the brake lever is combined front and rear. Really you shouldn't be commenting and putting your spin on something before you learn how to use and utilise it! You need to slow down take a breath and think before taking a load of sh1t as you do a lot of the time. Very poor take and the ASA isn't a problem on tight slippery tight S bends.
Keyboard warrior by any chance? I’m fully aware the brakes are linked but the front brake is still engaging. I’m not talking sh1t as you put it. It’s my spin on it. I have just ridden all the way down to Milan taking the twisties, best road was probably st Bernard’s pass. I would agree the ASA handled the hair pins just fine but the wet corners were very precarious. As they would be without ASA but I know a manual clutch better than ASA Why has no one ever talked to me like this to my face? Answer is back at the top of my response to you. You clearly don’t like me so why put yourself through watching my stuff? Give yourself a break sweetheart
Surely Steve was only giving an honest opinion based on his own personal experience of that bike. He didn't profess to being any review expert. In fact, he did mention up front that he doesn't actually do reviews, so maybe cut him some slack.
@@ABIKETHING I hope to find something constructive when watching video's. Other's including myself have done a lot of miles on ASA without your negative spin on it. Quite happy to tell you to your face. Your content would be far better if you were more concise, less excitable and cut the waffle!
@@chops45809 same old You Tuber nonsense from the guy. Claims not to give reviews, jumps on to new bike and then is picking it to bits pretty much. No mention of the options and mode changes. I don't dislike people I've never met and for a serial waffler who obviously likes the sound of his own voice to make keyboard warrior comment he should look at his own ACT more often!
Thanks Steve for a honest real world report/opinion of the ASA...
You had the big girl in dynamic pro crossing that slippy ford. Might have had more support in enduro or enduro pro no?
Any mode other than Dynamic would have been better. Might not have had the problems with sliding coming out of the ford.
Best debrief on the ASA I have seen so far. I can 100% relate to the situation you describe, e.g. these tight hairpin turns, or very slippery parts.... thanks for a great video. And these off-road tracks look really great!
So glad you made this video! I was leaning towards the ASA, but I’ve been in the scenario you described/showed (starting @ 5:43) and I definitely want the ability to coast over slippery surfaces by engaging the clutch. Thank you for sharing your insights on this beast of a bike! 🤠
Glad it was helpful!
As always...you set the bar in reviews and hi lite what us experienced GSA riders are looking for,,,cheers Steve
Glad you like it.
Interesting and validates exactly what I was thinking. I can't get past the look of it so I haven't ordered one but I definitely wouldn't have the ASA gearbox if I did.
I spec one the other day igual to my triple black , 27, 000€ that’s a very nice car price bmw having a laugh now but people will pay it 🤷🏼♂️
I agree with your comments on the ASA and not having a clutch, it would be very odd to not be able to roll without drive, and the lack of feel from the gear leaver.
I think it will get some time to get used to the ASA offroad as you will have to trust the system a lot. Any rider with a lot offroad experience has learned some reflexes about use of throttle and clutch and selected gear in difficult situations. The situation you describes are such typical situations. That slippery stretch...would it really be better pulling in the clutch? Yes obvious on a trailbike without any Engine Slip Control, Traction Control or ABS. But on this bike ? Im not sure. I can completely understand your reflexes and thoughts about it though. What I have heard from riders getting used to the DTC of Africa Twin they think it is great also offroad. I think it will be wrong to omit ASA on basis on this review alone. I think it will be clearer when more riders have been used to it, maybe also trained offroad with ASA. It would not be a surprise to me if, after some time, people will recommend it also for offroad. Its too early yet to judge the bike. But I appreciate your opinion, it counts as many others that will come 🙂
Totally agree with your comments about the ASA both on and off road.For me it was too intrusive but that could have been operator error.Im going to have another test ride just to see.
Just a wee clarification. "Unsatisfying" is an adjective - or a describing word. --IE. " The ASA has an unsatisfying movement. " Yet "Dissatisfying" is a verb. - or an acting or doing word --IE. " The quick-shifter was dissatisfying."
PS. I do ride a 1250GSA, so I hope you forgive me for the quick lesson on word-smithing.
Love your work son; Cheers!
Hi Steve, I have not ridden a BMW with the new automatic transmission and value your opinions. I spent many years training off road techniques to drivers of various cars and trucks as well as racing motocross as a hobby. I would recommend you enrol on the BMW Motorrad courses for GS riders to get the very best out of both your GS’s. Stay safe.
Thanks. I have already done the bmw off-road skills on the 1300GS and yes, I think I might just head back for a return visit on the ASA.
I am not a pro, and maybe because of that, I always enter the hairpins in 1st gear, and I modulate it with the clutch. I guess with ASA, where there is no engine stalling, so you can just go stable speed, but of course, that needs to be lower from start, so you don't engine break. My 2 cents, anyway. I try to keep it positive thinking since my 1300 GSA with ASA is on the way 😅Great video!
Trust me, you’ll be very pleased with the ASA . Maybe I did not come across clearly enough, but it’s more about these tight hair pins when slippery when wet.
Hi Steve, great video, some great road/dirt, can you share the route you were on?
Probably BMW didnt remember that riding a bike is not like a driving a car.😊 This GSA-ASA will certainly find enthousiasts who will love that ASA like big SUV cars which never goes into mud.😅
To be fair the asa is more than capable of all that rough stuff. Its a question of understanding it and adapting your riding style to suit it I think
I'm quite surprised that the Dynamic Engine Brake Control (MSR) didn't do a better job of handling the rear slip. I see that you were in manual mode in 2nd. Would be curious to know how it might handle that in Drive mode.
Maybe it would have done a better job in Drive but I still have to put my faith in it first. Drive box definitely jerks. That’s my experience of it so if it decided to auto down change from 2nd to 1st on the slippy stuff, this could have been worse.
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@@ABIKETHINGwrong mode, should have been in enduro or rain anything but dynamic.
Great content
What’s the point of ASA ? Are we becoming so tired or lazy that we need to hand over everything to the bike ECU? Are we looking for a tenth of a second improvement in our lap times or in our commute times ? Is it that hard to pull the clutch while in traffic ? Are you going to go further or last longer with it ? Are you going to go more adventurous or in more remote places with ? It’s just another thing that is more expensive and more prone to break down. My dealer told me they received a letter of BMW central not to push the sale of ASA, it being not totally without flaws.
One purpose of BMW's ASA, if it's in effect like Honda's DCT, is to be a great aid to bikers in town or traffic. Or one could see it as a safety aid by being one less thing to worry about and allows the rider to just enjoy being on 2 wheels: leaning, turning, wind, accelerating. I will probably buy one!
You’re ready for an automatic convertible 😂
Informative thank you
I know that crossing Steve, not far from the ponderosa, I used to like riding that road/trail but I avoid now due to how slippery it is, don’t wanna be picking my gsa up on my own out there lol
@steve when you daisy chain 2 cansmart does it have to be the same cansmart that is for a specific bike or you can do one for a specific bike and the other is not? TIA
I never use the front brake in hairpins. Only rear brake. That is also what you do with asa.
I have recently started trailbraking using the front brake. Not necessarily on hairpins but tight corners nevertheless. My intention is to increase weight to the front tire in a very gradual process which will increase grip (in the dry). It works very well and helps me ride corners faster. It’s literally a balance of Throttle and light front breaking at the same time. The emphasis is on balance so they are not fighting between each other.
I generally like to do all my breaking before I need to turn my front wheel for a hairpin. Every now and then we need to slow the motorcycle down a little bit more, And rear break is our only option on ASA. I prefer to pull in the clutch.
@@ABIKETHING haven't tried ASA, but will be upgrading from my R1250RS to the 1300 when an ASA version comes out, because the lad above is right - rear brake use. Why I'm confident ASA will work for me? Almost 30k on on a Honda Vultus (DCT) in Alps, Tatras, Karapathies and Norwegian fjords. Never an issue - you drag the rear brake on gravel to keep the front light, in hairpins to keep revs up and smooth and in traffic with throttle pulses to move at snail speed.
i am about to order the GSA but still not sure if i will take ASA or not... what should i do ?
I loved Honda's DCT but I also loved BMW's shaftdrive. No I can have both in the ASA so I'll be buying one.
thanks was wondering what the asa was like off road 🙂
If you live in a big crowded city and plan to ride the GS/A mostly to the Starbucks in the heavy-traffic downtown, then the ASA is just for you 😅
Awesome video! Beautiful bike for sure. Great points no doubt. Would I buy the ASA? No. Best!
Hi, do you publish the routes you ride, the views look amazing
We don’t make a habit of publishing them, but that’s not because we don’t want to. It’s just that we don’t. More than happy to share routes but I will need to set something up on our website where you can view and download them
enjoyed that
Can a bike fitted with ASA be bump started if it had a flat battery?
You can’t start a normal geared bike with a flat battery.. most new bike need a certain voltage to fire the ecu, pump and injectors ..
That’s good to know before I’m in a spot of bother with one of my bigger bikes. I bump my husky dirt bike all the time on downhills
@@ABIKETHING yes the husky and bikes like that, are a whole different type of ignition system.. best to carry one of those small jump start packs
@@myjodel117 I was thinking more of the technique. If there is some power in the battery, and you are at the top of a hill everyone pushing the bike, if there is no clutch lever to pull in, how would you engage the gear? Would pushing down on the gear lever at the right speed be the same as dumping the clutch?
@@frankspeakmore7104 So you happen to be at the top of a hill, with people around to push you.. and have only a partly drained battery.
With that slim scenario, I’d just call the ATeam 😂😂
Well done taking this bastard off road. Lamb chops and his mate like the asa. Maybe on road only with this mod
Great video highlighting your findings up until now !
I was wondering…
maybe not the best solution but anyway, here goes.
If when riding in off road mode you could activate/deactivate neutral functionality by ,let say tapping the whizz wheel 3 times in quick succession.
Then when approaching a slippery section combined with a hairpin you could press the whizz wheel ever so slightly as you’re rolling through…
An easy fix from an electronic perspective these days, but would it make a difference ?
Your thoughts?
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Or add a clutch lever so you could manually declutch if you wanted to.
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LOL now why didn’t that come to mind…
Makes sense. Ride and shift by wire. It would still lack that feel
@@arcticrThe gear lever still has some feel to it it has normal distance movement & a strongish spring. Clutch lever could be done similarly.
@@philbanks1306 yeah sounds about right. It wouldn’t be the same but it would probably benefit the off road customers that still want to try out the ASA. It’s going to be interesting to follow this new path from BMW.
Any news on the AIO-6
Lots of news on it yes. Not ready until around June next year
@ are no was hoping for it to be ready for the start of the season
What are the covers you've used on the aluminium sie panels?
Graphics kit. showcased in the videos highlighted in this video
@ABIKETHING yes, aware of the website, however, can not find it, your web master needs sacking, site is abhorrent to use.
Ill persist 👍
You had it in dynamic pro, what exactly were you expecting in that mode 🤣
If I had a clutch? I also wasn’t expecting that surface so are you saying I should be toggling modes on the fly in this riding scenario? In reality….press mode button on right, scroll wheel on left to desired mode, wait for mode to update then ride through the section? I’m used to toggling modes when I know I’m going from tarmac to rough stuff but a tiny section we see here is not practical to be toggling modes. Easier to just pull in the clutch and roll on through.
@@ABIKETHINGDynamic mode wasn't the best mode to be in on any of the roads\tracks in the video. They were all either wet or gravel tracks. What was wrong with using Rain or even Enduro mode on the gravel tracks. Dynamic would be too viscous on the throttle.
Nice area, do you have a gpx file for this ride?
Email tom@abikething.com and I’m sure he’ll ping it across
@@ABIKETHINGI’d like a copy to please. Tom is going to love you when he gets inundated with emails asking for the GPX.
Sounds like you need to learn the settings or custom modes and learn how to adjust to the ASA/DCT style of riding.
I don’t disagree with you
Always enduro mode on gravel.
Excellent, been waiting to see this vid since you mentioned it from the fitout. Definitely going to have to take a demo ASA out for a spin and see what it's all about. THanks for the info on how disconnected the ASA is from the gearbox when compared with the current QuickShifter on the 1250.
I'd still hope to go for the ASA in a couple of years when I can afford the upgrade, but commuting in traffic is my main use for the bike currently. Seen the other vids from 44teeth and TeaPot and a long-term owner review will be my next goto vid.
Thanks again, and happy trails
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Thanks Steve. Confirmed everything I thought about using the ASA offroad. Interesting re the 1300 GSA feeling heavier or a little more sketchy than the 1250 GSA offroad. See if you get the bug to put some offroad tires on it and see if that makes any difference after a bit more time on it. Love your work. 👍
Hey how good that I came across your video , because I have ordered a GS 1300 adv with an ASA clutch and after seeing this footage it confirms to me that I made the wrong choice and will be changing to a traditional clutch , because I also intend to ride off road . :)
Or maybe you should embrace the ASA? I’m not saying that ASA is the wrong choice. This video just highlights my thoughts of what I’m comfortable with. Since making this video, I have got more confident in the ASA. But it’s worth noting, if I had the option to go ASA on my dirtbike, it would be a definite no
@@ABIKETHING I just happen to be fresh from testing the ADV with the ASA system and had the opportunity to ride it off-road in the sand , I missed the clutch handle a lot , I wanted to point out that I ride off-road motorcycles every day and off-road I use the clutch a lot . Below is my latest video from a trip to Romania on an off-road motorcycle :)
ruclips.net/video/S_H5Yjd8dB8/видео.html
Don't take his view on it. Get a test ride on an ASA GS or GSA.
looks like jim Carrey
1250 GSA period...
I spoke to a BMW tech and he explained that engine braking should not be engaged until slight front brake pressure is applied. Until this happens no engine braking should be present ?
Now that is interesting but the more I repeat that to myself the more it can’t be true. I can engine break all the way down a gear box without touching the brakes.
Yeah it didn’t make any sense to me. Anyway I can’t give any comment yet as I haven’t ridden the ASA 1300GSA yet. Soon ,I have one on order with the ASA. Look forward to any further experience you have with it. CHEERS
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@@timothyoneill4159ruclips.net/video/gfbNQ1JYZKU/видео.htmlsi=p74NsDsj7BEXg1w1
Off road the throttle is “requesting power” and the clutch and brakes are “control” the movement and rule no1 of water crossing is no power.
Those are my thoughts on the ASA too given the Australian adventure riding I do, thus I ordered my GSA without.
@@a9503128 NO power & you'll stop.
@ P = MV aka Momentum a fundamental concept in physics.
@@a9503128water always finds it's own level so if you are crossing a stream it will be nearly flat. So if you just go into it (unless you come down a hill into it) you will stop if you don't have SOME drive.
All you guys who are unfamiliar with auto or semi auto bikes should really stop trying to comment on them. You don’t know how to use then yet and it takes a while to learn how. In addition, the more sophisticated systems “learn” your riding stile and you’ll notice the shifting becomes smoother and shifting point more to your style of riding. For some who has almost 300,000 miles and DCT, and Yamaha’s YCCS systems, I think I know what I’m talking about. One you learn hot to use them, you won’t go Bach to traditional shifting.
I genuinely hear your frustration with me and others who don’t know it as well as you do. It doesn’t mean I can’t comment on my experience of it thus far?
You’re the second person to mention the learning abilities of the system. I still have not looked into this yet but this feels like you’re telling me 2 identical bikes with ASA will never be the same if one is ridden by someone with loads of off road experience and the other is used to fetch coffee occasionally and never leaves the asphalt.
The GSA doesn't have A front brake, the brake lever is combined front and rear.
Really you shouldn't be commenting and putting your spin on something before you learn how to use and utilise it!
You need to slow down take a breath and think before taking a load of sh1t as you do a lot of the time. Very poor take and the ASA isn't a problem on tight slippery tight S bends.
I do enjoy constructive critique. This wasn’t…
Keyboard warrior by any chance? I’m fully aware the brakes are linked but the front brake is still engaging. I’m not talking sh1t as you put it. It’s my spin on it. I have just ridden all the way down to Milan taking the twisties, best road was probably st Bernard’s pass. I would agree the ASA handled the hair pins just fine but the wet corners were very precarious. As they would be without ASA but I know a manual clutch better than ASA
Why has no one ever talked to me like this to my face? Answer is back at the top of my response to you. You clearly don’t like me so why put yourself through watching my stuff? Give yourself a break sweetheart
Surely Steve was only giving an honest opinion based on his own personal experience of that bike. He didn't profess to being any review expert. In fact, he did mention up front that he doesn't actually do reviews, so maybe cut him some slack.
@@ABIKETHING I hope to find something constructive when watching video's. Other's including myself have done a lot of miles on ASA without your negative spin on it.
Quite happy to tell you to your face.
Your content would be far better if you were more concise, less excitable and cut the waffle!
@@chops45809 same old You Tuber nonsense from the guy. Claims not to give reviews, jumps on to new bike and then is picking it to bits pretty much. No mention of the options and mode changes. I don't dislike people I've never met and for a serial waffler who obviously likes the sound of his own voice to make keyboard warrior comment he should look at his own ACT more often!