Hiring Employees & Interns for a Machine Shop!
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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I graduated from a VoTech in 2016 having been through their Machine Tool program. I was working at a 3D Printer manufacturing company and going to school at night. I am also a single father and was juggling raising my very young daughter by myself during this time. After graduation, no one wanted to hire me except for late evening and overnight shifts, and I could not do that. I found an unpaid position on a Saturday with a job shop. I had to travel 160 miles round trip between bringing my daughter to my ex's and going to the machine shop so I could learn. Covid killed that training. I am still at the job I had when I went to school. Currently I am refurbing an Emco PCTurn 120 so I can learn more than being a button pusher. I will then work on finding a mill to work on so I can learn that. Even if I never earn a living as a machinist, I will not stop trying to learn the trade. No one can tell me I can't do it if I don't give them the chance to.
I've been doing mechanical engineering for 35 years can program cnc lathes cnc milling machines set them up operate them program them FANUC,G CODE plus bridgeport milling machine, i work on my own operating 4 machines easily which i like 👍🏻 because I've worked with a lot of idiots in the past, you know that saying to many cooks! Sadly I've never worked with someone like you who seems to want to learn only idiots who think they know it all! anyway good luck i live in se London England
Sounds like your a hard dedicated worker keep it up, the right opportunity will come. Always learn as much as you can
Where are you located?
I think brain g is a bullshitter no reply to any of are nice comments ?
@@oldscratch3535 Rock Hill, SC
One thing I would recommend you to consider is the adage "never hire a relative or in-law. " That is a very good way to destroy the morale of a company and ultimately the company as well.
Thanks for posting this video. It is an important thing to consider.
Nepotism was the fall of the roman empire and now King 🤴 Charles is in charge in he's first real job in he's 70s what a joke 🙄
Can't say no to the boss's daughter, even though it is easy to say no to the boss.
Thanks, John. Before retiring, helped clients hiring/manage using personality assessments for 20 years. Define behavioral & cognitive requirements of the job. Find applicants whose cognitive agility and innate behaviors are a match to the job. Generally, the most successful machinists are technically-oriented vs. socially and more process-oriented than not. Stated simply, put people in jobs that ask them to behave naturally. Major Indianapolis toolco (subject of a NYC CNC video) is a decades-long client. Note: I'm retired. Not selling anything. Get the data and take some of the mystery out of the hiring process.
I’m definitely not a good employee right now. My boss is great but I had an injury earlier this year which has greatly limited my capacity. Fingers crossed I fully recover to a point to where I can really “pay it back” so to speak to my employer.
Your view of your situation and attitude about it is what every good employer wishes for. This type of thinking alone says that you would be a great addition to any successful team! Cheers!
John, it was super rad running into you at IMTS, Can we get a video on LEX? I'm kiiiinda familliar with it from listening to the podcasts but I think you've left us behind a little bit.
Id love to see a video on your testing process to see if they can do the job..
Excellent thoughts. Thanks for sharing and keeping us sharp.
Thanks, John!
Man I would thrive in your shop for so many reasons! I want to come visit someday.
I was once an intern. even though I got the internship through a college, I was very disappointed with the training quality and treatment I got. This was most likely due to the shop owners having no cohesion or the program presenting any agreement as to what the training path would be or what the intern expectations were.
in the end I walked out and got a job in microprocessor manufacturing after finishing a different degree.
planning is 1/2 the battle I would argue.
Agree. If the company doesn't train you properly or have any kind of plan, the intern can feel like they are just thrown round at random and find it hard to pick things up
I teach at a 4 year University with a Manufacturing management program. Our students are highly recruited and typically have 3+ offers before they graduate, many times a year before they graduate. MOST of these students accept full time employment at the location they did an internship with. I've always suggested to smaller companies (and massive organizations) that they view their internship or co-op program as their main recruitment effort. I work with several companies with alums who come and give a brief informational lecture in one of my CAD or CNC courses. They also attend our twice yearly career fair. Companies that typically only hire out of their internship/co-op programs tend to have great success in finding the best talent. A big help with finding interns/co-ops is from successful past interns. They work with these students in classes and know who to recommend. We met at a Tormach open house/class several years ago....I think the last time they offered them.
Hey John, thought I'd share my hiring story in case anyone else here is just getting into the field.
I got hired sweeping floors at a small machine shop while I was still finishing my mechanical engineering technology diploma in college. It's an old-school shop with only manual machines and 1 dnm500. They threw me on a 40x40x40 heavy boring mill with no experince which was hilarious. it was fun making parts but I didn't really see myself doing a career in machining. I was too intimidated to learn how to use the cnc because the learning curve seemed astronomical, and my back was killing me from using the hbm and i was soaked in coolant all the time. Regardless, I wanted to get better at my job so I started watching machining videos and alot of the material online was around cnc work but the theory still applied. Our cnc guy retired and they knew I had an interest so they asked me if I wanted to do it. I was a little reluctant because the idea really terrified me, and I would have to self-teach myself gcode based on what he left saved on the machine. Eventually i said yes, taught myself, and I manually programmed for about a year after that, while absorbing as much info as I could.
Just over a year ago, I found this RUclips channel and saw all the capabilities of fusion 360 so I was really determined to learn how to use it. I talked to my boss about getting a license but he said "we can already make parts why do we need that."
So i took it on myself to get a student license, bought the memory card and adapter with my own money. I made 2 parts using fusion 360 and a week later my boss bought a license. In the two years I've been there I've taken them from running at 1ipm with hss tools to now running at 35+ ipm in steel/stainless parts and they're absolutely blown away by the capabilities of the machine. Also I'm a very average machinist, i dont wanna make it sound like im doing anything special here, but my bosses reaction when I finish a part in a couple hours that would have taken days prior is great.
There's so much to learn in this field and it's so much fun. Someday I hope I can own my own shop. Thanks to guys like John for inspiring passion and providing education in a field I didn't even know existed until 2 years ago.
This is absolutely awesome. Nice work, Alex - and much appreciation for sharing this!
I have a different angle on the subject . i got started on a cnc lathe , yeah the learning curve was steep . Even the old timers didn't know anything advanced on the machines . Later i got to work on a HMC . Both 'trades' i learned with little help . YES EVEN In a medium size company all i got was little help -despite the fact that they were contractually obligated to train me ! . After some time i did not even care what others were up to . I did things my way . It usually worked out . I never missed a promised deadline . There were also times when i could not promise a deadline.... .
Now...long story short . I've personally purchased some tools , tested them up to manufacturers recommended max . I always tried to improve everything i did , i always upped the parameters 3-5% every time i could . Every coworker said don't rush it , we get paid the same . The higher ups NEVER EVER Invested in anything that i've tested prooven and shown to them - in 6 years time ! (this place was stuck in the late 90's at best , there was bad organisation , inexistent fixturing and zero cam )
After this i went to a small company. In some aspect whey were on another level. I could totally tell that they were artificially underpaying the people , so that the boss could buy a new car almost every year. Of course they wanted shorter setup times , shorter cycle times , but we used many shared tools and many damaged tools . I was quick to suggest some investment in tooling , toolholders and such. And the foreman was quick to absolutely and undoubtedly deny everything i asked . This shop was also stuck in the early 00's . Here the demand was to high for the $$$ , so i left when i got a better offer . Now i'm in mom's&pop's swetshop , these people are also stuck in the 90's , HSS is god , cheap counterfeit tools are pretty much all that i work with . they even buy tools from the gipsyes without any paperwork , any invoice . Here i also presented my needs, my suggestions . But it became clear quick that this place is also a dead end . It's pretty dim , cold , coolant have not been changed in years to name a few . But in contrast to my 2 prior workplaces he pays better , so i decided to stay , but i won't for very long - also this swetshop also does not have any CAM . I gave them some cracked autocad and such , but legally they have zero software .
So lately i've been delevoping a fu** you too mentality . When i see zero input from the boss , i will provide the same input .
We can say that i got fed up...
Of course there are a few mint shops , with forward thinking bosses and owners , that realised things that other employers will never realise , but they are a very small percentage !
ps.: i did not even venture in toxic colleauges department...
I think the "laser focus on the exact role" is painful vs "find someone who fits generally" - in the short term, the new person can fit into something where they're useful and others can cover the gap while everybody grows. If you do find a "we have this giant need for a skill to fill a gap" also make sure that person wants to help grow the people around them with respect to that skill and would be willing to step in and help on unrelated tasks.
Goof and and minor crashes attitude talk vote up!
Keep up the good work John 👏
Thanks, Jeff!
Agree with a lot of the stuff your saying. I work in a much larger organization, (medical equipment manufacturing) but when hiring the big things for me, do they have intellect, how much future potential do I see, are they ambitious? I try to look at can they do the role I need done now but also where can I use them in the future and what roles can I grow them into, what qualifications and experience do they have but that can all be developed with the right candidate. The really big one is will they fit into the team, a wrong hire can drive a wedge into a well functioning team, if someone is disrupting the team then they are out the door, left undealt with things go downhill fast. generally as part of my final interview process I always get some of the guys in from my team, leave them alone for 30-40 mins to chat with the candidates then get their opinions before making a final decision. I have built my team from the ground up for a large organization, it been very hard but also successful with the above methods. I have a simple rule that applys to myself and everyone in the team at all times and it's very good at keeping conflict and stress to a minimum. Always be fair, nobody gets special treatment but everyone must be treated respectfully. Always treat others the way you expect to be treated yourself. With that as the foundation things generally go well. Also as a leader remember work isn't a democratic activity, everyone will have a chance to speak but the boss gets the final say, it never hurts to remind people of that when they overreach beyond their station.
Thanks for the Video!
Why don’t tradesmen require applicants to preform a benchy and higher them according to the quality and speed of their work.
This works well in some trades like welding. It’s a bit more difficult when a bad operator can quickly damage a cnc machine. Candidate programmers could sit down and program a part they haven’t seen which might be a useful test.
I don't believe that is legal due to insurance and state regulations. I could be wrong. I know you are able to have a written test and small mechanical testing prior to the hiring process.
Why don't people proofread their comments, and post them according to whether or not they make any sense.
@@trainedtiger You mean you don't want "preform" a test to get "highered"? Hey...at least he used the right "their". I will give him points for that one.
I was recently involved in a heated exchange with my trainer I am essentially an apprentice machinist newly hired. I am going to use those three questions you mentioned at the end of your video to ascertain feed back. I was heartbroken and ready to walk out but I really want to complete my apprenticeship and make myself, the company and my trainer proud.
From the other side of the line (as an engineer): One thing that can feel like a glass ceiling are companies that hire (de jure or de facto) through internship alone (or "you have to know somebody"). It took me 11 months of digging and dead end interviews before I finally got a job with my EET degree... and I've been with them for over 6 years and counting.
I won't say it wasn't at least partially my fault... but it was frustrating. I networked the best I could (IEEE, etc.) and circumstances during my college years prvented me from getting an internship. Not making an opinion... just sharing a story.
this video gives me hope to eventually get a really cool job(im 17 and still in a higher tecnical college)
until now i had a few internships at companys that were meh🤷♂️ either good pay or nice people, but nothing that made me say "i cant wait to go to work again"
but i since strting school i learned soo much and i now picked up 3d printing, waiting on my desktop cnc mill to delivered (bought it 2 days ago & im so hyped on it)
also i started using Mikrocontrollers
and finally, i found e people in my class to acsually build a diy 5 axis cnc mill as a grad. project 🔥
also yt acsually kinda gut me here so thank you as well
I'm a fresh graduate of an advanced manufacturing associates degree like you mentioned. I'm finding it hard to find any work besides "button pusher". I just left my first shop after 90 days due to people having bad attitudes and huge ego's that are not pleasant to work around. It's unfortunate because I'm very hungry to learn and know I could do great things given the chance.
This is unfortunately very common.
Learning to become a Button Pusher is the path for so many, IF you want to work in a Modern Machine Shop.
Either that, or be the 1 Programmer Everyone annoys to get the programs to run their parts ??
I guess you just need to do the hard yards and eventually start something yourself as you build your skill level.
Bad attitudes and over-inflated Egos is what you Need to deal with until you can breakaway and work in your own shop.
They say Life Wasn't Meant to be Easy.
That's true.
But, it will help to remind you to Never give up and make something of yourself, rather than just going with the flow. 👍
I think one of the problem with new recruits is that they expect perfection in a job, especially right out of school. Look, everybody has worked in crappy jobs. What future employers will look for is someone who doesn't quit as soon as things get tough (regardless of the position or industry).
You have ZERO skills right now. You build skills by working in different positions. Having different skills, even if it's not something you want to do long term, is huge, both for you as an employee and for an employer looking for a new hire.
On the flip side of your comments regarding hiring services - I have my resume posted on the usual online places. I get inundated with calls/emails/texts from "head hunters" that obviously have NOT read my resume. A computer scans for key words and when it finds one a human calls. As a MECHANICAL engineer I get sent positions for every other engineering discipline (chemical, electrical, civil, etc) and any number of technician rolls that I have had a hand in but no business actually doing. So the hiring services and NOT doing much of a job selecting talent in the first place and then trying to push that hastily / poorly selected talent on to you. The inundation has reached a level to rival spam calls.
Ugh. what a bunch of turds. Sorry to that this is what "recruiting" looks like these days...
@@nyccnc Another ugly look at recruiting companies, The last place I worked used a recruiting company to handle the posting of the job listing and filtering of the candidates. I applied, went through the recruiting company to get directly hired (Also rare, usually contract to hire) and worked for the business for 2 years. At about 22 months of employment the same recruiter that hired me into that business was calling me a couple times a week to try to hire me back out of there.....
When I received an offer I couldn't refuse to work for a former coworker (not through recruiting company) I informed the business of the recruiters tactics and suggested they not use them in the future.
Also, as a mechanical engineer, I can confirm AZ Enginerd's comment, I get that too. They must just search "Engineer" on linkedin and start shooting the proverbial barrel hoping something will float to the surface.
You almost launched into a discussion of what I'll call Industrial Hygiene: the disciplines of work space organization, record keeping and team support. Great to hear of your internship programs.
well put
A Job or a Career ??
This is a good starting point.
Are we Hiring to give someone a Job, or are we Hiring to give someone a Career.
Generally Machine Shops Hire to give someone a Career.
Meaning you Need to use your Brain and think about what you are doing and put both Mental and Physical effort into the work that is required.
IF we are Hiring someone to work in our Warehouse and drive a Forklift.
I would call this a Job.
Where you advertise will make a difference also.
IF you just put a sign outside your Workshop advertising for an Employee.
That could include Anyone passing by your business ???
This is a Very random way to find a Good Employee.
Depending on the industry.
It can vary between 1 in 20 and 1 in 5 people will be a good fit for your business.
Great employees is like Lightning striking a person.
It can be that random.
We will find not good employees one after another.
Then you start to find a few ?? good ones.
Even the Good ones still need, some work ???
I've hired over 100 people over the years. One thing that I find very helpful in an interview process is to ask the candidate to present one project. Seeing what project they pick, what issues they highlights and how they solved it will tell you a lot more than questions like "tell me your strength and weakness"
Honeslty THIS
I hate it when I intervieuw people and they say yeah I worked on this machine
I don;t care on what machine you've worked or what software you used
Show me a small portfolio of problems you've solved
Learning buttons is easy, learning problem solving skills are hard
@loupitou06fl Would you be available by chance for a quick 20 minute zoom call? I’m a CNC machine shop owner in Asia and really struggling with my org chart structure with some recent staff changes. I know it’s a long shot but would it be possible for me to buy you a virtual coffee? Would love to ask you some quick questions and would value your wisdom
Hi John
I have worked for many company's in my working life some fantastic and some absolute rubbish. The attitude that you portray is what I found in the great company's that I worked for, one in particular there total focus was on employee development moving around to every department learning huge amount of skills as they went.
I found out later that the company also used this method to find people that exerted exceptional skill in a particular area and then placed them in that roll win win on both sides. I think that you are well on the way to obtaining those results for your company.
Thanks John,I think I should send this video to my boss,he was farming for almost 40 years with just one employee and then he started a business, with a lot of money and spending tons of money on strange people,..he is old school,I'm thinking more like u do,and that's how I try to tell him, he is starting to listen more and more
Hello my teacher I am designed, programmer and operator CNC machines from Morocco. I can find a suitable job. The science I do not have a diploma
Helpful insights. Thanks John. 6 years ago I was learning from you how to use Fusion for the first time. This video is good timing as I'm currently looking for a full-time shop assistant/operations person. Learned from you how incredible UpWork is for finding good talent. Been able to find great software engineers, embedded systems, electromechanical engineers and others that would have been impossible for me to find!
This channel inspired me to make my shop about a decade ago but with the goal of never hiring someone (except maybe my wife one day). I feel like I would be doing less of what I enjoy, setting up CAM, machines and making parts and more of what I hate, managing people. Of the machine shops I know around me only 1 has more than 2 employees and I always wondered why...
I'm with you about Never Hiring.
Well at least not Long term / Full Time employees.
I only have a Part Time worker for general duties.
Such as Cutting materials and Cleaning.
Very difficult to find someone who will work well in the same space with the same motivations to see things through.
Some shops are built with the thought of Hiring staff to do All the work, while
the Owner runs the admin side of the business.
I hate working in an Office.
Not much point employing people for me to do the things I don't want to do.
Similar thoughts to yourself 👍
@@weldmachine I'm the same way. I used to have a deskjob and I hated that work. It's part of the reason my quit my dayjob, I just enjoy life more making parts.
Can you do a video on marketing a small business? You seem to be doing it very with the channel. thx
One of the main reasons i quit at my last job was that we were getting so busy that they started to hire everybody who can write their own name on the paper. There were this one guy i needed to teach how cordless drill works. If i want to baybysit and answer Micky Mouse questions all day i would have a job at kindergarten.
While I hear you, nobody wants to work. They got a bunch of "free" money for 2 years, and want to vacation and play on twitter and tiktok all day long. It's going to come to a head soon and come crashing down.
I only worked in shops where my superiors all used old technologies and then they hustle every day and they are frustrated and think that we all need to bust our asses so they can earn more money but the pay employees bad. Once I was in high tech company but that was all organized and getting better in technology, reduced cycle time etc. because I did all the new stuff that I learned by watching every single video about programming, tools, fixtures... and got 1 BRAVO for all that work. There is no enough good companies in general, specially not in manufacturing where they respect good employees and in general people as a human being that have life and family out side of his job. Too bad that company like your has only 6 employees but, manufacturing so to hard and complicated for what it's paid.
Thanks for this video. Our company is growing and I think in the next year or two we might need to hire our first employee or intern. It's a great problem to have. Thank you for the advice in this video. Much appreciated.
I find when most companies hire, they want someone that will take initiative. When I was working as a full-time welder the biggest thing I learned was, if you get done with your task grab a broom sweep, or lend a hand to someone else if they need it. The one thing I can't stand in a co-worker is someone that is not willing to work as part of a team. Now sadly I am disabled in wheel chair and walker depended.
Quite the opposite at some places. If you think outside the box and do something wrong or out or procedure that might have seemed better they throw you under the bus.
Hi folks, 😂
I recently joined in a precise mechanical components company, into my big challenges has been all about raw material, please upload a video talking about std steel / stainless steel and aluminum material (equivalents materials / characteristics/ prices / differences between surcharges / energy surcharges) I had a chance to view some of your videos and I I just fell inlove of the quality of your contents.
I ask candidates to show me a project - or better yet bring it in for show and tell. My biggest care is that they like designing and making stuff-I don't care if its welding or 3d printing or woodwork or knitting.
A good simple test for machining competency - give them a buggered drill bit, ask them to sharpen it on a bench grinder.
Well it's not Machine Shop related, but this video is perfect timing! I'm in the process of taking over my father's landscaping company and I have been thinking a lot about how I'm going to handle hiring, training and company culture. I expect the turnover rate to be fairly high, so I'll be trying to take the "McDonald's" approach. Thank you for all of the content you share, it is so helpful for small business owners, keep up the awesome work.
Reasons to hire & fire are pretty much a huge topic. It also depends on the local culture . I am from Eastern Europe and over here people rarely say what they really think. But the universal method is to look into their eyes when they first enter your shop: if you see THAT spark into their eyes when they look around, you have the right person in front of you. It doesn't guarantee that they will stay with you for long though, but at least for a while you would be satisfied. If you don't see that spark, your shop is not the right place for that guy.
Hi John, a direct question for you: would you have hired Will Smith in "The pursuit of happiness" ?
Yes or no?
I’m not that far into a shop to need to hire anyone yet, but then sometimes im stupid busy.
Hardest part I could think of is trusting a person to do the parts correctly and per spec without burning expensive material over one oversight. Sometimes its the little things that will make or break a job.
How do you deal with large mistakes like machining errors that scrap out a few hundred dollars or thousand dollars of material or machine parts from a crash?
When you employ them give them a trial, if no good get rid straight after trial
🤯
Good mind blown? Or bad mind blown?
It does sucks in some states do not accept internships
Really?!
imagine working for smw, would be awesome.
Different side of things, video idea. I'm in charge of training people with no machinist background. CNC at my workplace is more or less an operator position. There are times where you gotta use your head. I have trouble teaching these kids. Part of it is they're looking for a pay raise more than anything. The other part is there's a lot to cover. They all say they wanna be the next me. I'm legendary around there for my abilities. All learned at work as an operator and at home studying. I could brag about going above and beyond... Anyway they get given the info and seem to not know when to use it forget it or ignore it. How would you go about training a 20yr old with no experience and seemingly willingness to forget the notes he took? There's a mechanical and technical side to this sort of work. It's not just button pushing where I'm at..
How long are you giving these people before you expect them to know what to do?
I'm very technical and mechanically inclined with experience in manual machining and some cnc vertical mill experience, but I just got a job running a Tsugami swiss lathe and it took me 2 months to learn the basics of changing tools, calling up tools for touch off, doing offsets, operating a bar feeder, QC'ing parts, operating a CMM/MicroVu/comparator, using gages, servicing the coolant pumps and coolers, etc. I'm working by myself now, but I still have to ask lots of questions and there's a ton I don't know. I still fuck up sometimes. I had experience most don't have and I was still lost for months. And I would say I'm an anomaly b/c most people don't pick it up that fast. The f'ing thing has 9 axis's. Its a brain melter.
You gotta give them time to get the reps in. You have to realize that you are judging their performance from the position of an expert. What seems easy, logical, and obvious to you is anything but to them. If you aren't a technical person then its even harder.
As far as expecting pay raises goes, look, times are different now. In a low cost of living area you need AT LEAST $20/hour plus overtime just to scrape by as a single person. The struggle is real for a lot of people. They want a pay raise b/c they need it to survive, not b/c they think they're the shit and they are worth it. My job started me off at $21/hour plus overtime with double time if I want to work Sunday and the only reason I can afford that pay if b/c I live very close by and I don't have a mortgage or vehicle payment. I can't afford a house on that. I couldn't even get a home loan with that pay. My point is its not greed or ego. Shit is just crazy expensive now.
I LIKED IT, THANKS
Hiring a person is the same thing as if u buy an old piece of equipment, if it's maintained well,then you don't need to do it,but if not, u better know how to fix it properly,affordable, before you buy it.
Intern lol
I think the cell phones are ruining company's. We have guys that can't put them down an is hurting company
I build a freaking faraday cage around my shop if I owned one. "Sorry, service isn't very good here".
beware the quiet quitting... I really like your philosophy. the newer generations can create some difficulties but the steps you mentioned with being up front on expectations and follow through should help. Winning by Jack Welch is a great book.
What boomers call quiet quitting is really just called "doing the work you're paid to do". The point is to not go above and beyond b/c it doesn't get you anywhere most of the time. If they expect more, then they can pay you more. You no longer get excellence for free. Life is far too expensive now for that. We didn't get the luxury of being able to provide for a family with a nice house, cars, and a boat on $12/hour that boomers enjoyed.
I was born in 1989. My dad was making $8/hour then. My mom made the same. They built a large 2 story home on 5 acres for $60K. We always had new vehicles, boats, large Christmas gifts, nice clothes, yearly vacations, etc. I've been working since I was 16 years old and I just broke $20/hour for the first time in my life so I don't want to hear shit about laziness or entitlement. The pay has not increased, but the expectations have. So yeah, I guess we're "quiet quitting" now.
oh no you said cleaning. thats to much work for most.
Excellent video. I just interviewed someone for my company this past weekend. Seemed like a very nice person. He was all about telling me "why I could not do what I have been doing" since 1989 when I started my company, because he had "worked in my professional field" but had not expanded his skill sets in many, many years. Basically, How do you do that? "You can't do that". "I have never heard of that" . John S., you had some great information to share for people who do not feel they have limits to what they can do. Learn, what they do not know RIGHT now. Accomplish new challenges and grow into what your firm needs! Thanks.
Intern? If you have work that isn’t worth paying someone a living wage for, it’s probably not a real job.
People pay to go to school its the same thing ive been im the industry for 10 years and most of them don’t learn how to program or operate a machine right when you learn that it brings the big bucks
@@Houcnc People pay to go to school? Is that what all this student loan forgiveness main stream media is cluttered with about? People take out 30k in loans and then demand that the government forgive the loans. Are these the same morons who take unpaid interships? I swear to god you will not survive in NY if your game plan is to take out a student loan, a car loan, and an unpaid internship hoping to land a job at a machine shop who would probably hire Tomas from El Salvador to operate a machine instead of you. They will pay him $17 an hour and he will come in at 6 and run your machine, clean, and not ask you stupid questions trying to learn how to set up.
Larger companies are no longer doing direct hires. They hire you as a temp through a staffing agency and then if you work out they direct hire you. Its easier for them to get rid of you that way. I got hired on like that. This place used to be nearly impossible to get a job at unless you knew someone. I had 3 interviews there 6 years ago and still didn't get hired.
After covid, the business really took off (firearms) and they are desperate for people so they relaxed their standards a bit. It seems to be working for them b/c they list how many terminations they have each month and its usually 0-3/month for a population of over 400 people with a lot of new hires, so not bad in my opinion. They have good starting pay and a lot of perks and benefits so it helps with retention. I like it b/c I get the best AR-15 parts in the industry 50% off.