Good video! Thanks for sharing your experience. I had a tight budget, but needed new tires. I went with 4 Comforser Chinese tires for a great price. I’m going on a year with them and I must say I am pleasantly surprised. They perform just as well if not better than the Bridgestones I replaced. I’d buy them again in a heartbeat.
I hope you get back to us after a year or two. I considered Roadcruza (same company as Comforser) but decided to go with Apollo (Apterra AT2). I think these Apollos ride and grip more confidently than the stock Bridgestone Dueler 684-II set that it replaced, but then again these tyres are also new.
I had Hankook, Michelin, Pirelli, and Sailun. All handled the same, but only the Hankook and Sailun lasted over 15,000kms (both went around 27,000kms). Thats on Australian roads, driving normally in a Ford XR6 turbo. So Sailun were easily the best value for money as they were $40 cheaper than the Hankook but lasted the same kms.
There's a difference between "less expensive" and "cheaply made". When it comes to tires, 1/3rd of the cost of a "name brand" tires is for marketing /advertising. Many "name brand" tires from companies based in other countries are manufactured in China. It's possible to get tires or any other auto part made in China that is as good as one made in the US or EU . These include many "OEM" parts. Depending on local tariffs, these can be significantly less expensive. Because of this its dangerous to automatically think of any auto part as "premium" or not based on its price. It's better to look at the company's reputation for standing behind their product's performance and warranty.
Yes but there is a huge difference between factories set up by the major manufacturers and actual cheap Chinese tyres. Compounds, the technology within the tyres and so on all play a part. If you're just tootling around town and rarely get above 30 mph you'll be fine with just about anything, especially in the dry, but if you want to be safe in the wet at 70mph in a downpour you're in the lap of the gods with a Chinese brand.
While big companies spend more on marketing, their sheer production capacity across many production plants (like 123 plants for Michelin, 130 for Bridgestone, 55 for Goodyear, efc.) lets them enjoy higher economies of scale compared to smaller tyre manufactures. This lessens the cost of marketing for each tyre and at the same time, because their products are used by more people, they're more inclined to test them more rigorously before releasing them. In a sense, more users are testing them also. Any problem would more likely be reported than tyres in much small quantities from a smaller company that probably doesn't even answer complaints.
Depends what you want from a tyre. If you don't want them to aquaplane at speed in a downpour on the motorway, avoid most if not all Chinese tyres. VERY few of them are any good in the wet. I'm not talking about pottering around town, but driving at pace safely around the country lanes like you need to do in some parts of the country if you don't want your journey to take twice as long as it needs to. The other thing to bear in mind is if they're not good in the wet your stopping distances will be severely compromised. In the dry you can almost drive on bald tyres without a problem.
my cheap chinese car came fitted with Giti tyres and I'm pleasantly surprised. Good grip, low wear, good in the wet, ok noise. Rolling resistance is a bit higher than normal.
You cleaned your gt nicely! I had some sailuns on my previous alfa 147 and they were awful.. Especially the wet I had very very little grip and understeered all the time I have goodyear eagle F1 assymmetric 5 tires on my GT now and it's a world of difference. Loads of grip and steering feel in all conditions Alfa's are very good cars to drive so high-quality tires are a must
Thanks, I was reluctant to buy these tires, especially since I had bad experience before, but these are pretty good both on wet and dry. Loads of grip, no understeer. I have a friend that works with tires, and he assured me they were good, he didn't lie.
hi i really runs out of budget. n my tyre front left punctured. n iwent to change it. unlucky the mechanic told me i nd to chamge 4 of them cause its already expired. i just bought a viva car ..for daily needs around my area...just in kuala lumpur. ..im so unhappy n been cheat again ..he told ne its new tyres ..but nd to change it..the mechanic chnge to sonix tyres...is it okay...tis the frst time using china tyres. tks a lot ..pls reply me 1:43
I have mounted Sava Intesa UHP2 last year, they are pretty good and other reviews confirm that as well. I hope they stay that for at least 2 more years and it would be a great deal :) (55 EUR per piece in 225 45 R17). However, my next set will be Falken FK510 or Michelin PS4 / GY AS5. Tires really are the most important part on the car and worth the extra money if you are keeping the car for longer.
I agree that the tires are the most important part of the car since they are essentially the only contact with the road. However, I can't shake off the feeling that we are paying for the brands lately. I have worked in Firestone in US, and I have experimented with tires. I had everything from Pirelli slicks to Chinese cheaps, and lately even big brands are moving the manufacturing to China. So you can't disproof everything that comes from there. The tires I put on my GT are great example. They are not perfect, but they are pretty good balance, especially on a car which is not performance oriented.
Yeh you will need to replace them when they are only half worn. How much do you value your life on a wet road or the life of the other road users driving towards you?
I have these on my car and I must ask how fast do you drive in the wet? Cause at 120 at most it feels fine and it's going on 3years or so .....i also don't drive the same as in the wet, I slow down my lane changes and I give people more space I also slow down when traffic gets thicker even tho it's moving at speed. That aside tho cheaper they cost us around $400tt for one of those in Trinidad where I live ..
Thinking of getting a new set. Looking at HT tires from Michelin Primacy SUV+,, Momo Forcerun M8, and Radar Dimax AS-8. Radar is the cheapest. Thoughts?
Totaly agreed. Tyres are the only thing which holds the car on the road, I don't get these 'savings'. I just bought used daily ride on nankang, whatta horrible experience.. threw'em out.. I drive only Michelins on every car.
In my case it was over 200E. Nonetheless, I have a lot of experience with premium brands, and this tire is decent. The performance is not jeopardized because of the price... On the other hand, i also had Nankang which I got packaged with the rims on Ford Mustang, and they were dangerous, especially in the rain, they had no grip whatsoever...
I am yet to find tyres that will last me two years (I make around 30-40.000 km per year) , I am talking about front axle ,rear will last me even more than two years.
@@arcgaragelexus is300h ,but can't tell how long my new set will last me. My previous car Laguna MK3 was on a set of Uniroyal Rain Sport 3 and those lasted for around 30.000 km front axle ,the rear was still ok but one started cracking. On Lexus I have fitted four brand new Dębica Presto UHP 2 (polish brand owned by Goodyear) ,will see how long they are gonna last me.
I've never had a set of tires that lasted less than 6 years or 60,000 miles - about half as long as I kept an average car. I replace tires by age, I don't wear out their treads. Heat and UV are what degrades tires. I live in the temperate zone, have good paved roads, and drive rationally. It's been 25 years since I got a tire damaged by a road hazard and had to use a spare.
I went to buy somw Toyo tires and i told thr guy, IT HAS RO SAY MADENIN JAPAN OR MADE IN THE US. IF IF SAYS MADE IN CHINA I DO NOT WANT THEM. He tried to tell me chinese made Toyo tires are just as good. I repeated myself. IT MUST SAY MADE IN JAPAN OR MADE IN US. I WILL NOT ACCEPT MADE IN CHINA TIRES. I even said I'm chinese. I do not want chinese made tires. I know how my cousins make that shit.
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Good video! Thanks for sharing your experience.
I had a tight budget, but needed new tires. I went with 4 Comforser Chinese tires for a great price. I’m going on a year with them and I must say I am pleasantly surprised. They perform just as well if not better than the Bridgestones I replaced. I’d buy them again in a heartbeat.
Thanks for sharing, people are usually skeptical about them, but there are good ones out there
I hope you get back to us after a year or two. I considered Roadcruza (same company as Comforser) but decided to go with Apollo (Apterra AT2). I think these Apollos ride and grip more confidently than the stock Bridgestone Dueler 684-II set that it replaced, but then again these tyres are also new.
I had Hankook, Michelin, Pirelli, and Sailun.
All handled the same, but only the Hankook and Sailun lasted over 15,000kms (both went around 27,000kms).
Thats on Australian roads, driving normally in a Ford XR6 turbo.
So Sailun were easily the best value for money as they were $40 cheaper than the Hankook but lasted the same kms.
I agree, it is good value for money
Just purchased a set of Marshall tyres, the cheap version of Khumo, no complaints on my '380 '.
There's a difference between "less expensive" and "cheaply made". When it comes to tires, 1/3rd of the cost of a "name brand" tires is for marketing /advertising. Many "name brand" tires from companies based in other countries are manufactured in China. It's possible to get tires or any other auto part made in China that is as good as one made in the US or EU . These include many "OEM" parts. Depending on local tariffs, these can be significantly less expensive. Because of this its dangerous to automatically think of any auto part as "premium" or not based on its price. It's better to look at the company's reputation for standing behind their product's performance and warranty.
That is a great explanation, advertising budget can account for half of the cost
Yes but there is a huge difference between factories set up by the major manufacturers and actual cheap Chinese tyres. Compounds, the technology within the tyres and so on all play a part. If you're just tootling around town and rarely get above 30 mph you'll be fine with just about anything, especially in the dry, but if you want to be safe in the wet at 70mph in a downpour you're in the lap of the gods with a Chinese brand.
While big companies spend more on marketing, their sheer production capacity across many production plants (like 123 plants for Michelin, 130 for Bridgestone, 55 for Goodyear, efc.) lets them enjoy higher economies of scale compared to smaller tyre manufactures. This lessens the cost of marketing for each tyre and at the same time, because their products are used by more people, they're more inclined to test them more rigorously before releasing them. In a sense, more users are testing them also. Any problem would more likely be reported than tyres in much small quantities from a smaller company that probably doesn't even answer complaints.
Depends what you want from a tyre. If you don't want them to aquaplane at speed in a downpour on the motorway, avoid most if not all Chinese tyres. VERY few of them are any good in the wet. I'm not talking about pottering around town, but driving at pace safely around the country lanes like you need to do in some parts of the country if you don't want your journey to take twice as long as it needs to. The other thing to bear in mind is if they're not good in the wet your stopping distances will be severely compromised. In the dry you can almost drive on bald tyres without a problem.
Chinese tyres are getting better no doubt
my cheap chinese car came fitted with Giti tyres and I'm pleasantly surprised. Good grip, low wear, good in the wet, ok noise. Rolling resistance is a bit higher than normal.
I had the same experience
What make car do you drive? Just interested😊
@@ZerokillerOppel1 The one that came with the Giti tyre was one of 200 hundred pre production vehicles of an EV.
You cleaned your gt nicely!
I had some sailuns on my previous alfa 147 and they were awful.. Especially the wet I had very very little grip and understeered all the time
I have goodyear eagle F1 assymmetric 5 tires on my GT now and it's a world of difference. Loads of grip and steering feel in all conditions
Alfa's are very good cars to drive so high-quality tires are a must
Thanks, I was reluctant to buy these tires, especially since I had bad experience before, but these are pretty good both on wet and dry. Loads of grip, no understeer. I have a friend that works with tires, and he assured me they were good, he didn't lie.
hi i really runs out of budget. n my tyre front left punctured. n iwent to change it. unlucky the mechanic told me i nd to chamge 4 of them cause its already expired. i just bought a viva car ..for daily needs around my area...just in kuala lumpur. ..im so unhappy n been cheat again ..he told ne its new tyres ..but nd to change it..the mechanic chnge to sonix tyres...is it okay...tis the frst time using china tyres. tks a lot ..pls reply me 1:43
Any update?
I have mounted Sava Intesa UHP2 last year, they are pretty good and other reviews confirm that as well. I hope they stay that for at least 2 more years and it would be a great deal :) (55 EUR per piece in 225 45 R17). However, my next set will be Falken FK510 or Michelin PS4 / GY AS5. Tires really are the most important part on the car and worth the extra money if you are keeping the car for longer.
I agree that the tires are the most important part of the car since they are essentially the only contact with the road. However, I can't shake off the feeling that we are paying for the brands lately. I have worked in Firestone in US, and I have experimented with tires. I had everything from Pirelli slicks to Chinese cheaps, and lately even big brands are moving the manufacturing to China. So you can't disproof everything that comes from there. The tires I put on my GT are great example. They are not perfect, but they are pretty good balance, especially on a car which is not performance oriented.
Why risk it 🤷♂️
Sava Intensa is a Slovenian European brand owned by Goodyear
Sava tires we are using a lot in our country, summer and winters! They are very good, way above Chinese tires! That price is very good!
I switched to Chinese brand tires three years ago. They are as good as the one that came with the car, and 25% cheaper.
I was pretty happy with these tires as well
Sailun are really a very good budget tyre. Much better than the Linglong jinyu joyroad bunch of copies.
Agree, had them multiple times as winter and as summer tires, and they are pretty good.
One brand does not represent all brands........................
Yeh you will need to replace them when they are only half worn. How much do you value your life on a wet road or the life of the other road users driving towards you?
Sailun is very good tires and sailun top11 tires in the world 🌍
I have these on my car and I must ask how fast do you drive in the wet? Cause at 120 at most it feels fine and it's going on 3years or so .....i also don't drive the same as in the wet, I slow down my lane changes and I give people more space I also slow down when traffic gets thicker even tho it's moving at speed. That aside tho cheaper they cost us around $400tt for one of those in Trinidad where I live ..
Thinking of getting a new set. Looking at HT tires from Michelin Primacy SUV+,, Momo Forcerun M8, and Radar Dimax AS-8. Radar is the cheapest. Thoughts?
I'd suggest going with Michelin, they are the best quality.
@@arcgarage thanks, bro. Just very intrigued with Radar. But yeah, Michelin is the no-BS choice.
@@arcgarage well, got my tires. Apollo Apterra AT2. I think Apollo is also good. They have a reputations for durability and longevity.
I dont see any reason for buying cheap tyres on this tyre size. You will save like 100€ on whole car in comparison to premium UHP tyres.
Totaly agreed. Tyres are the only thing which holds the car on the road, I don't get these 'savings'. I just bought used daily ride on nankang, whatta horrible experience.. threw'em out.. I drive only Michelins on every car.
In my case it was over 200E. Nonetheless, I have a lot of experience with premium brands, and this tire is decent. The performance is not jeopardized because of the price... On the other hand, i also had Nankang which I got packaged with the rims on Ford Mustang, and they were dangerous, especially in the rain, they had no grip whatsoever...
This is good, in my country people buy remade tires for 25€ each,
Hello, a question about the Alfa emblem in black, what measure is 50mm?
Hi, they are 60mm, if I remember right...
I am yet to find tyres that will last me two years (I make around 30-40.000 km per year) , I am talking about front axle ,rear will last me even more than two years.
What car do you drive?
@@arcgaragelexus is300h ,but can't tell how long my new set will last me. My previous car Laguna MK3 was on a set of Uniroyal Rain Sport 3 and those lasted for around 30.000 km front axle ,the rear was still ok but one started cracking. On Lexus I have fitted four brand new Dębica Presto UHP 2 (polish brand owned by Goodyear) ,will see how long they are gonna last me.
You bought saliun they are the premium budget tyres lol.
They are pretty good tires
Very nice alloy wheels! Where did you get them?
Thanks, I have found them locally, they were a bargain too...
Don't know the brand, all I know is that they are UK made...
Damn I’ve never had a set of tyres more than 5 months
I've never had a set of tires that lasted less than 6 years or 60,000 miles - about half as long as I kept an average car. I replace tires by age, I don't wear out their treads. Heat and UV are what degrades tires. I live in the temperate zone, have good paved roads, and drive rationally. It's been 25 years since I got a tire damaged by a road hazard and had to use a spare.
@@psdaengr911 hi. Do you stick to the premium brands or do you also use Chinese tyres?
Nice car!
Thanks!
I went to buy somw Toyo tires and i told thr guy, IT HAS RO SAY MADENIN JAPAN OR MADE IN THE US. IF IF SAYS MADE IN CHINA I DO NOT WANT THEM. He tried to tell me chinese made Toyo tires are just as good. I repeated myself. IT MUST SAY MADE IN JAPAN OR MADE IN US. I WILL NOT ACCEPT MADE IN CHINA TIRES. I even said I'm chinese. I do not want chinese made tires. I know how my cousins make that shit.
Slick tires also wear out fast
But who drives slicks??😮
Weird that you measure tire life in time and not in kilometers.
Tyres degrade even when they're just sitting idle. It's called dry rot. They're made of rubber, after all.
Car is not in a ditch upside down, equals good tyres😅.
True
I replace much more expensive tyres after 1.5 to 2 years. 😄
Yeah, quality of everything nowadays is impressive, isn't it
Cheap crap , mean people that don't put a price on their lives , they should be banned
Chinese tires are not cheap but affordable.
The asian love hate 😂