The Cheapest Toyota Land Cruiser is Bizarre!

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  • @FrankMasi-vk9wq
    @FrankMasi-vk9wq 6 дней назад +9

    Two months into leasing a 1958 and I am very happy with it. I've always wanted a LC but the previous generation was way too expensive. I know it's a Prado, however I love the way it looks, it's super smooth and quiet, and the mileage is the same as I'm getting with my 2013 Rav4 with the same commute. I'm also okay with the cost, as if you're really looking at what things cost, there are plenty of SUVs that get up near 60k that I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. Plus, it's completely made in Japan (and I really love the cloth seats). Just one guy's opinion as a long-time Toyota customer.

  • @tommyistommy
    @tommyistommy 5 дней назад +9

    The price is outrageous. It's a 45k vehicle max. The horrible ride, poor quality, limited interior space and awful ground clearance are all hallmark features the TNGA-F platform. They are breaking sales records on legacy products, not these. It's because they still make cars and fuel efficient vehicles, something other brands abandoned.

  • @cheintz091
    @cheintz091 6 дней назад +8

    Love my LC mid trim with the premium package after 2 months of ownership. Paid MSRP and no regrets whatsoever. Sufficient power, getting 23mpg overall. simple and functional interior with physical buttons which I prefer over the GX interior. Worth every penny. The GX is awesome but with 20-30% worse fuel economy, 20-30% higher insurance premiums and 20-30% more expensive service/maintenance, the overall ownership cost still heavily favors the Land Cruiser. Keep in mind the GX overtrail and overtrail+ are the closest comps to the Land Cruiser and the overtrail starts at 69k with less features than the Land Cruiser mid trim premium at 67k.

    • @EveryTacoInLA
      @EveryTacoInLA 3 дня назад

      I can’t get more than 19MPG on mine. Anything I should look out for?

  • @rickm8456
    @rickm8456 8 дней назад +21

    My 2023 Corolla LE for 23k has the same plastic interior. I mean come on. Well, if Toyota can get away with it.

    • @guyfawkesuThe1
      @guyfawkesuThe1 4 дня назад +1

      And this Landcruiser is using a 4-cylinder!

  • @ridenfish39
    @ridenfish39 8 дней назад +68

    Waaaaaay over priced for what you get

    • @ThirdBrainLives
      @ThirdBrainLives 8 дней назад

      You’re wayyyyyy too broke

    • @ridenfish39
      @ridenfish39 8 дней назад +11

      @@ThirdBrainLives whatever you say. There’s much better options at this price point. But you know this and are just being a troll

    • @providentpathfinders219
      @providentpathfinders219 7 дней назад +1

      Clapped out Genesis calling your name…..maybe a Harbor Freight BYD?

    • @providentpathfinders219
      @providentpathfinders219 7 дней назад +1

      @@ridenfish39what’s a better option? Enlighten us…

    • @DG-uu9bz
      @DG-uu9bz 7 дней назад +3

      Everything is way overpriced for what you get. But I'd say at $65000 the mid level LC is more value than my 2 door bronco badlands

  • @hostileocelot
    @hostileocelot 8 дней назад +10

    I grew up idolizing the old LCs, and I'd love to own one of the new ones, but at that price there's the GX 550 as you say. Great video pointing out the differences between the two and the comparable costs. Also commenting to please the gods of the algorithm!

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  8 дней назад +5

      It seems like they were onto something great with this form factor but the GX just makes so much more sense. I'm happy that Toyota still makes both as high quality, body-on-frame offroad boxes! Thank you for feeding the algorithm

    • @hostileocelot
      @hostileocelot 8 дней назад +1

      @@Realistick 1 of the 2 Toyota dealerships where I live tacks on a $9k USD "market adjustment" to the LCs they get, and people are paying it. GX 550s don't suffer from that adjustment at the Lexus dealership, which makes the choice even easier at least for the time being.

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  7 дней назад +2

      @@hostileocelot A good point, those markups were in my region too but they’ve quickly disappeared. My local dealer even told me 1,000 below msrp!

    • @charliemcawesome5012
      @charliemcawesome5012 5 дней назад

      No. The 1958 is the model to get. The GX550 is a LOT more money. And what people are missing here is the 350 extra KG the Landcruiser has. There is a lot of differences from the Forerunner Hybrid. Steel drive shafts instead of aluminium and a lot of other small items that add up to a much stronger machine.

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  5 дней назад +1

      @@charliemcawesome5012 The 1958 does undercut the GX nicely and I think there is a niche market for it, but it also feels incredibly cheap in comparison. I'd feel like I was lying to folks if I recommended it to more than a small subset of Toyota fans. Also, the new 4Runner weight hasn't been specified yet but the previous Limited 4wd is about 90 kg lighter than the hybrid LC.

  • @nick-3388
    @nick-3388 6 дней назад +3

    I’m tired of people trying to market it as a cheaper Land Cruiser. Maybe cheaper quality vehicle but the price is not cheap

  • @a3chowdh
    @a3chowdh 7 дней назад +2

    Refreshing to see such an unbiased and entertaining review

  • @coreylucas5997
    @coreylucas5997 6 дней назад +2

    I do admit it the cloth old school seating is cool but north of 50 grand ouch 😮

  • @tinhinnh
    @tinhinnh 7 дней назад +3

    So glad we can get a LC for under $60k, GX is basically a loaded version

  • @rgates06
    @rgates06 8 дней назад +3

    Agreed this is in a weird spot with not enough separating it from the Forerunner and the GX.

  • @c.huynh32
    @c.huynh32 8 дней назад +3

    Nice looking vehicle! Needs the Toyota legendary 3.5L V6 or 4.0L V6 or the 5.7L V8 without hybrid system! Maybe as a second option for who wants a hybrid!
    $72k here in Ontario, Canada for the cheapest "Base Model" 1958 ... Highest is the "First Edition" trim at $102k (MSRP)
    Nice vehicle and everything ... No V6 or V8 which really kills the deal! With that price tag, I personally would just look/shop for the Lexus version

  • @Vanuatoo
    @Vanuatoo 7 дней назад +3

    In Europe we don't have 4runner, so it's easy to select either a Land Cruiser Prado or Lexus GX. Base Prado is around 48K USD with 2.7l naturally aspirated petrol, steel rims, plastic all around. And you can get 2.8 Turbo Diesel from previous generation. But with 4Runner being the most popular in US, Land Cruiser (Prado) seems really redundant and out of place, especially with its starting price. Let's be honest, very few will buy Lexus GX for the off-road use and who really want off-road should prefer 4Runner for it's lower base price and configurability options. So this leads to a question: who's going to buy Land Cruiser?

  • @genzigzag
    @genzigzag 8 дней назад +11

    Price isn't the issue, the powertrain has no benefit in this platform, Toyota should have used a version of the 2.4 Turbo, tuned for more torque. The hybrid battery pack adds weight and comprises the cargo space.

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  8 дней назад +10

      Id agree that the hybrid is a little underwhelming, I honestly think id prefer the regular 2.4 turbo and a lower price or full insanity with the 3.4 turbo from the GX!

    • @dcl97
      @dcl97 5 дней назад

      What isn't being talked about with these hybrids is that they are using old Nickel Metal Hydride packs, not the lithium ones being used in the Prius and almost every other modern hybrid. Their lifespan is only 80k-120k miles which means you're looking at a guaranteed $4000 maintenance item every 5-10 years. They will never be worth the minimal fuel savings they offer.

  • @nick-3388
    @nick-3388 6 дней назад +1

    First review of the new Prado that’s unbiased

  • @markbradl8651
    @markbradl8651 7 дней назад +1

    Cloth seats at that price point. Should have at least the softex. At least it looks like leather. I love the softex in my 4runner

  • @joeblack1052
    @joeblack1052 7 дней назад +2

    As I said months ago they took a limited 4Runner gave it cloth seats and a turbo 4 and more retro body style and made it more expensive
    4Runner limited.
    Leather seats
    Full time 4wd
    4L V6
    5spd
    Slide down rear window
    Proper rear wiper
    50 grand
    Landcruiser
    Cloth seats
    Full time 4wd
    Turbo hybrid 4 2.4L
    Aggressive front styling
    8spd
    Budget Crossover rear wiper and glass
    Half ass tow bar setup
    56 grand
    What is one getting for the 6 grand premium except image and possibly an inferior product?
    If one compares it to the SR5 4Runner base then comparison gets just ridiculous
    12 grand difference 😅
    What a con this is
    It’s shameful

    • @JordanMadera
      @JordanMadera 7 дней назад +1

      The LC250 isn’t for everyone. There is always the new 4Runners if price is too much for folks. I don’t mind the price and I think the LC250 is better built than the new 4Runner as it actually has durable bump stops made for off-roading, no gimmicky trim levels, no cumbersome isodynamic seats, overpriced Bluetooth speaker and laptop screen infotainment display and gives you everything in the 1958 for off-roading.

    • @joeblack1052
      @joeblack1052 7 дней назад

      @@JordanMadera you are comparing it to tacomas and the supposed new 4Runner and that is not the point
      This should be as good as a stripped out Lexus gx460 and it isn’t as it is the new Prado in other markets
      They had 14yrs to get this right and they didn’t and I am not even talking about the turbo 4 which is probably the least worst part about it
      That I see these available at dealers says it all
      I know someone who were in a dealership and they said an older couple were looking at a 1958 and they pointed to the sales guy and said what about the one outside , there was a limited edition landcruiser outside
      The sales guy said that one isn’t for sale the couple said no that one pointing towards the person telling recounting own vehicle a 4 runner TRD sport 😂

  • @mattlabella7850
    @mattlabella7850 7 дней назад +1

    Love this video! Wild, I never thought I’d say this, but it seems like brands like nissan, kia, Hyundai are killing it and not just on interior beauty. The Armada can tow to 9k lbs, kia has pretty interior and i guess hyundai is doing a lovely job.
    I’ve owned a 4runner, rav4, highlander, moving on after the new wrx runs it’s course lol

  • @LonGilford
    @LonGilford 7 дней назад +2

    I’m so happy I purchased a 23 Lexus GX 460! 💙 the V8 engine. These small hybrid 4 cylinder engines will never out last the aspirated V6 and V8 engines. Toyota should at least offer the same engine that’s in the GX 550!!! Toyota is out of touch with its current generation of customers.

  • @Jay-bw3fl
    @Jay-bw3fl 4 дня назад

    Love mine so far but I agree it is not a good price point and doesn’t make sense for most people. I just really liked the styling and the retro cloth seats lol. The LC is a little torque monster too. Surprisingly quick and at 21mpg avg so far over the first 2000 miles it’s way better than my old 4runner was in every way. I think when people are financing the majority of a vehicles price, a few thousand dollars isn’t going to make much of a difference or be a dealbreaker if they really want something and the land cruiser nameplate and styling is definitely cooler than the new 4runner in my opinion

  • @67wildwolf
    @67wildwolf 7 дней назад +2

    dude educate yourself about the land cruiser. it wasn't until Toyota priced it out of the market that its sales dropped.

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  7 дней назад +3

      Feel free to disagree with me on the LC but I'm a big Toyota truck fan. It's been over $50k since the turn of the century. For longer than I can remember, It was priced more like a luxury SUV and it placed an emphasis on quality to justify it. My beef with this new one is that the 4Runner and GX make much stronger arguments for themselves due to the price of the new LC.

  • @dixonbuttes6564
    @dixonbuttes6564 6 дней назад +1

    The new Land Cruiser will help drive the older ones even higher in price. 👍 The 70 and 80 Series are the last real Cruisers. Not sure what’s going wrong over at Toyota.

  • @MeJonTheDon
    @MeJonTheDon 7 дней назад +1

    No roll down window, cheaped out with the rear window wiper just hanging there instead of tucked under a cover, cloth manual seats, cheap plastics, thinner glass and metal and paint, cheaped out on the head unit, and the bad engineering with the battery location/size. I'm not sure if they are just that stupid or think their potential customers are. Nobody will want a used one if these in 10 years like they will an FJ. Nostalgia only takes you so far

  • @user-cd3ki5np6i
    @user-cd3ki5np6i День назад

    The new land cruisers have nothing in common with the revered older landcruisers except in name. Only time will tell how they will hold through the years.

  • @chippoz
    @chippoz Час назад

    I’ll stick with my ‘97 Landcruiser with 200k plus miles on it!

  • @jasonlee4655
    @jasonlee4655 7 дней назад +3

    Overpriced fake LC. Only thing this has LC character is its name. Just buy a Lexus GX. You might as well get a lexus at this price range.

  • @areitu
    @areitu 8 дней назад +1

    I agree that the LC was never about value and never really made sense compared to the GX or 4Runner. I did notice in the first segment of the video, the GX550's price was never directly mentioned, and a quick googling shows that the base GX cost about 6-7k more than the base LC. I think there're some people who'd prefer rather get the LC specifically because it doesn't have fancy features that might be considered unreliable or difficult to fix in 10 years, like KDSS, etc.

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  8 дней назад

      I put the price in there at the 3 minute mark when I brought up the Lexus interior!🥸The LC could be a good value in 1958 form to people who will never set their gaze on a 4Runner. A niche, but one that I think I should have hit more here outside in the conclusion!
      Though I do disagree with the notion that LC is more straightforward. Most GX models don’t have KDSS (which used to be in the LC) and they also don’t have a big, expensive battery to worry about either.

    • @___asd159gh43
      @___asd159gh43 7 дней назад

      @@Realistick base model GX vs mid-LC (at MSRP) is wild. the GX feels like the better value. I think it depends on what people are using them for. with word the 4 turbo hybrid is coming next year to the GX, it should be interesting. my assumption is most of these will still be parking lot queens and conquerors of curbs.

    • @cheintz091
      @cheintz091 6 дней назад +1

      Why doesn’t anyone talk about the new 4Runner being a butt ugly vehicle?? Also the higher trim 4Runners are the better comp and they will undoubtedly be 60k +. Not great considering they look like a remote control RC car which I’m sure will be appealing to teens in 10 years when they can finally afford one

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  6 дней назад

      @@cheintz091 Style is the biggest reason to buy the LC (something I talked about in the first minute)! Even if a fully loaded 4Runner TRD OR hits 60k, a Land Cruiser goes past 70k. If the swagger and name is worth 10k, go for it!

  • @targa1659
    @targa1659 День назад

    I like it but why all season tires for something designed for the trail? Just doesn’t make sense to me.

  • @kevintmerk
    @kevintmerk 2 дня назад

    I checked out a LC that was so basic…no driver power seat and you’re paying 57k ? No thanks from someone with a bad back.

  • @jeremysomeone
    @jeremysomeone 8 дней назад +3

    Sorry, but it’s ugly and way over priced.

  • @animalmother4
    @animalmother4 6 дней назад

    Wait a while for them to refresh

  • @lash9400
    @lash9400 8 дней назад

    The last generation LC was a big bland box that cost $80 k. This one has so much presence in its design and ruggedness appeal.
    I want one and I’m not really an SUV type of guy

    • @epicmickey2351
      @epicmickey2351 8 дней назад

      At least the old one has 7 seats

    • @providentpathfinders219
      @providentpathfinders219 7 дней назад

      @@epicmickey2351….which no one used…..most people took the rear seats and stored them in the garage.

  • @PatrickWilliamsI
    @PatrickWilliamsI День назад

    You don't like you, don't buy. Maybe it's not for you.

  • @johnrose7212
    @johnrose7212 8 дней назад

    look at the cost of gas vs the GX on the Maroni sticker, and option out a lexus, that will loose value faster, because its a luxury car

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  8 дней назад +1

      Valid, if you’re sold on the LC style but don’t quite need the Lexus experience, the 1958 will save you money. However, if value is a concern at all, Id argue that the 4Runner is a MUCH better option and the only one of the three that doesn’t recommend premium fuel😎

  • @tylersrubar6451
    @tylersrubar6451 8 дней назад

    Yeah it’s cool but too base level in features for the price. I mean no power seat is ridiculous!

  • @MeJonTheDon
    @MeJonTheDon 7 дней назад

    Calling it out like we should

  • @joshuagraham3222
    @joshuagraham3222 8 дней назад

    Admittedly I really like the style, but I just don’t understand this car. If you are going to pay that price why wouldn’t you just get the GX. This just doesn’t look like a 60k car. Toyota does have very good hybrids so I guess we will have to wait and see how long it will last.

  • @traincation5715
    @traincation5715 8 дней назад

    Any thoughts on the rumored Land Cruiser FJ? It's supposedly a cheaper Jimny-like baby off-roader, though unclear if it will even come to the US

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  8 дней назад

      I doubt Toyota would bring it here with how saturated their SUV lineup already is. I suppose if they made it slot well below the 4Runner then people would be excited (I'd probably want one too). At the same time, North American Toyota continues to move further and further from making entry level stuff like that :(

    • @traincation5715
      @traincation5715 8 дней назад

      @@Realistick I want to want a Toyota but I'm looking for a mix of cool and cheap, which an FJ revival would fill. I agree though that it's unlikely

  • @melanie7781
    @melanie7781 2 дня назад

    Price is just to high.

  • @normaninsandiego7061
    @normaninsandiego7061 8 дней назад +5

    If it is built in Japan, then the price doesn't matter. I like the looks of the 1958 Land Cruiser. Another excellent review.

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  8 дней назад +3

      Thanks! I'm glad that they still build the Land Cruiser and GX like a Japanese rock.

    • @johnrose7212
      @johnrose7212 8 дней назад

      @@Realistick my First edition was made alongside the GX in the same factory in Japan,

  • @mohammeds5458
    @mohammeds5458 7 дней назад

    At the end you get a prado not a land cruiser

  • @jdrules23
    @jdrules23 6 дней назад

    Should be max 48k.

  • @Tehilliym
    @Tehilliym 5 дней назад

    Front end styling is meh. No v6 meh. Pass

  • @vitaminme4203
    @vitaminme4203 8 дней назад

    $57k and you say fog lights are a feature? lol what?

  • @lucassitanggang5154
    @lucassitanggang5154 8 дней назад

    I think it's better car is overpriced, than watch Richard Mille is overpriced

  • @peterdaniel66
    @peterdaniel66 4 дня назад

    People, what the hell is wrong with you? This looks exactly like a Ford escape. There’s nothing retro about it and sure as shit ain’t worth the price that they’re asking.

  • @christopherkozal7987
    @christopherkozal7987 8 дней назад +2

    I’m curious…what SUV’s would you recommend in this segment before this LC? Nothing really comes close in value. This is much more sophisticated & long lasting than a Bronco or Wrangler.
    This just proves that no matter what, people will find something to complain about. Toyota finally delivers a “base” version, something not available since the early 90’s & this guy complains that it’s not “base” enough 😂
    Too expensive? Yeah naw, inflation sucks bad….but you probably voted for it. The 1958 will absolutely be the one I choose.

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  8 дней назад +7

      I think you missed 95% of the video but it’s no biggie! I’d recommend a Toyota 4Runner or Lexus GX550 well before this. The LC is a good vehicle and I think a stripped down LC is a great idea, but not at damn near $60k (hence the thumbnail). Also, Toyota has made a stipped down Cruiser since the 90s, the FJ, and that was cheaper than the 4Runner✌️Take it easy.

  • @naveenthemachine
    @naveenthemachine 8 дней назад +1

    I can see everyone’s clearly disappointed.
    So where’s your “naveens a Toyota hater who owns a Toyota” comment now huh?😆🤣. You guys failed miserably (as usual) to shut me down and prove me wrong. Because it’s you who’s getting schooled on the internet by me. 😂

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  8 дней назад +1

      Nobody bats 100% but I don’t think most folks would disagree with you on this one in particular, not even me🥸

    • @naveenthemachine
      @naveenthemachine 8 дней назад

      @@Realistick 😆😂
      No one bets 100% yet it ends up being a 100% disappointment
      Just look at nearly every new model from them. They’re all super underwhelming when compared to rivals

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  8 дней назад +1

      I still think the LC is a nice rugged SUV, just horribly priced and hard to recommend as a result. You already know I disagree with you on the rest of the lineup so I’ll save us the time today😂 Have a nice Tuesday🤟

    • @kizo172
      @kizo172 8 дней назад +2

      Another Toyota and lexus owner here and after seeing how subpar are Toyota products I can confirm that no manufacturer is price gouging like Toyota. No value in this Prado.

    • @bitbat9
      @bitbat9 8 дней назад +1

      Hey guys look at me, your favorite E tier troll

  • @lash9400
    @lash9400 8 дней назад +2

    The last generation LC was a big bland box that cost $80 k. This one has so much presence in its design and ruggedness appeal.
    I want one and I’m not really an SUV type of guy

    • @BillLaBrie
      @BillLaBrie 7 дней назад

      The core appeal of the LC was that it was functional, real, and wasn’t directly marketed to sorority girls.