i don't think he orbed any player the whole game. lucio might have been soft throwing too but the zen was definitely hard throwing. how they won, beats me
Actualnoobish my point is watch noob hunter/freshnuts/daily Overwatch moments, pros/ high level players do pretty dumb things, and not even on purpose, and so my point there is that Mei didn’t necessarily miss cuz of badness (I’m not suggesting that they aren’t bad, but that might not be a reason for the missing of shots)
The zen is likely a plat player or something that wants to do a bottom 500 to diamond video or something 😂 bc he is HARD throwing, no way that hes actually trying to win
Nibmeister in bottom 500 to diamond, you actually have to carry your team every single game, and make your way through a bunch of ranks. unranked to gm, you’ll place closer to gm. let’s say you get diamond, then it’ll be easier to reach grandmaster. so it’s not really the unskilled version, i think it’ll be much harder
@@Sp4rklegore It will have difficulties in different ways but it isn't harder. This could be done by people in high diamond/low master while unranked to GM actually requires GM skills
I started playing a little over three weeks ago because overwatch was on a like 60% off deal of something. Can you explain why throwing is so back and what it is? I mean I did spend a whole game just saying hi and emoting with the enemy’s in an arcade game. Is that okay?
10:16 omg the widow was literally 1 hp and the zen was 2 inches away and didn't heal, I am dying laughing right now. As a support main this kills me. hahahaha.
I think he didn't want to focus on that as the goal is to help the player that sent this in and it was better just to focus on things that could be helped.
I think this video actually demonstrates how hard it is for supports to climb out of bronze (at least solo). Both supports here were throwing to some degree and they still won, which means the enemy supports were not able to have enough impact to win the game even against two throwers.
seems like a fellow bronze support copium for me. Pls take your head out of your ass and buy a mouse or sell your pc. Youre literally wasting your time. Do not consider buying ow 2 and touch a girl instead. Cheers sir
#1 most important thing this player (or anyone else in their position) needs to do: memorize the locations of the health packs and stop asking for heals. Yes, Zen was throwing, and Lucio was probably a smurf slumming it from low gold or so who doesn't give a damn if he wins or not, or about healing his team, he just wants to practice sick reddit Lucio tricks at a rank where he doesn't die instantly trying them... but *regardless* of that, you still won't get *any* heals even from legitimate Bronze players as long as you're in triple-digits Bronze, and *rarely* even in high Bronze. When queuing for DPS at that rank you have *at least* 10 minutes queue waiting, probably much longer. Spend half your queues in aim-training or death match, and spend the other half loading up an empty custom game and just walking through making note of all the health pack locations. Figure out the shortest routes from all the best high ground perches to the nearest health packs, and figure out all the best routes from the health packs to the main areas where the fighting is likely to be. You just need to know that. A Bronze DPS that relies on Bronze supports for healing is going to *stay* a Bronze DPS forever.
Zen and Lucio were throwing. Smurfs on lower rank matches have become a huge problem/let down that Blizzard doesn't seem to want to address with any urgency. Which is sad because it ruins the game for us (lower tier) and for new players. You as a coach and with your popularity, should start addressing the issue when you see it instead of making fun of the bronze players for just being terrible at the game.
Honestly probably could’ve been a console player or someone using a controller, I played quite a bit of console before getting a PC that can run anything. Movement is a big part of aiming with a controller
I tried once aiming with movement keys and it is pretty effective. I tried it because I was being accused of hacking, just because I tend to flick a lot. I did pop off several times aiming with movement keys, but it is extremely boring to play that way and that is why I stopped. The idea is to only move the mouse up and down, and adjust your left and right with movement keys, you will try to keep the mouse at head level and shoot when the mouse is on the head of the person. Of course, occasionally you will need to flick when someone is way off your crosshair, but that type of aiming is specially effective when the enemy team is playing together, while peaking, or controlling a choke.
@@sselesUneeuQ yeah that's true, but when you get put with low teammates and you belong in gold or something, you can't carry the team that hard. Maybe a diamond or someone higher could but I see your point
Hey Sty, I think the mouse thing issue is because the person is using a mouse with a ball, rather then an optical mouse. Probably been a while since you've seen how that looks but I think we are looking at that here in this video. Assuming I am correct, the person may be using the mouse for different reasons unrelated to the game directly, and thus don't want to talk about mouse-aim issues. Also Payload only Heals when On Attack.
30:57 just in case there were any doubts that Zen and Lucio were working together to throw the game. It’s not bad play, it’s not “omg bronze”, it’s throwing.
It’s not throwing. The lucio was Redshell. He’s a top 500 reddit lucio. He has a video of this exact game I’m pretty sure. If he was doing anything he was boosting
Plot twist: the Zen wasn't throwing he was just doing bad to give his teammates encouragement to do better. Like he's providing emotional support and I'd take that over heals any day
@@hiiambarney4489 Yup in fact, I would say that all of our teammates are trying to give us emotional support that's why they make us angry all the time because anger can be a motivater and it's also a healthy emotion to express.
@@erieyoung2615 It worked to because they ended up winning. Like that trans off the edge of the map when now one was around was just his way of saying " I know you guys can win this without my ult "
These bronze coaching videos make me feel like I’m a good player, but in reality I’m Plat. I still love these low bronze reviews though because you can teach good habits from the ground up.
That zen was throwing the whole game which is infuriating to say the least. Also Sty Killing yourself isn't the worst thing in Overwatch. Look at baby D.va when the fight is lost.
I’m new to overwatch just got it a few months ago and your vids help a lot keep up the entertaining videos, my first rank was high gold and that blew my mind now I’m mid gold, your vids really help
This is the literal definition of 0 Heals and I'm unable to understand how the enemy team managed to lose that. It shouldn't be possible even in Bronze.
I saw a Mercy take a moment to notice the rest of our team was down then pull out a gun and run into the entire 6 person enemy team for no discernible reason. It was amazing. Mercy died quick.
statistically you will get as many throwers, leavers, and smurfs as the other team, so if you play better than a bronze you will always climb out of bronze.
The zen was the best art of this video. The trans especially! Watched it over and over dying of laughter. Even with no healers both throwing, you STILL won! haha
i know everybody is commenting about the zen but i thought it was just going to be silly throwing, not infuriating. imagine being in bottom 500 trying your hardest to climb but you can't even perform at your best because your zen refuses to heal and decides to emote next to you as you're literally at 4hp. that's so shitty and unfair, i hope the people who tried their best this game have been able to climb a little bit and haven't given up.
Sty, I love your channel, they're very informative. Here's my problem, especially with some of the advice you give in this video, most in particular on the third point of defense. Nobody ever talks about experience or actual rank; yeah, sure it's bronze, mistakes and mechanical issues will plague the players, but they also have the same mindset. In most games though, the experience is different - each game varies, but digress - when you give the advice "you could've walked away from the fight (on first point) that's usually not an option, as the Dva/Junk/Moira know where they are, and are after them, and while I wouldn't have taken the shot at the Orisa, they are on us now too. 4 people, and you only have 2 options of escape; back and into the top corner, which Junk/Dva can easily access, Moira can throw the Orb, and if we get as far as the window Orisa can pull/pre-auto-fire into it, or we can go back the way the Dva was chasing us, and we'd be split from our team but in a "better" position. I think the idea of killing yourself at this point, is more about not getting too staggered from your team and getting a better position in the next fight, though the thought of escape came too late. That's the mindset; this player didn't realize the fight was lost before the Dva began chasing, so it's more of a game sense issue; throwing the mine is a good option because Dva is chasing, but we shouldn't be there in the first place... we should have already been through the window. All that being said, you suggest on the McRee to keep the high ground in the corner, despite our isolation from our team, why? "Imagine if we were here" and the whole team decided to look directly at us and shoot. It only takes a Mei shot (again, bronze, so unlikely but possible), and a few missiles from Dva and we're dead. Yes, they're "backing off", but they're all alive. This advice is sort of where the rank comes in; playing to your opponents rank as well. See, sometimes, when you play like a Plat player in a Silver game, you can and do get destroyed because your team is all Silver as well. Your Mercy gets distracted by the Rein who's taken a few points of damage and is now backing off calling for healing, while you're already mid dive and about to be focused into oblivion. Sure "don't dive" but we've already communicated and decided, and we're going in and our Rein is coming with us and our Rein is gone, and we're now the front line... While our Rein is backing off and we're dying our Ashe is dueling their Ashe and losing. All of these things compile into poor quality games and it's hard to climb. I just can't get over how most coaches completely skip over the team's mentality, and focus on personal improvements, which is a fine lesson and good advice, but when all of your games are focused on you (which is generally my experience), people chase you down because they know your team can't/won't do anything to stop them. So retreat is usually not an option and it drives me mental when coaches suggest it. "Based on my position from the time I realized the fight was lost watching this clip, how do I escape?" If it were me, I realized the fight was over when you were talking about the low ground - Zen's dead, Orisa's on her way back from spawn, Bastion's dead... We've killed their Mei, but it's still 5v3, and they still have Mercy rez. So unless I'm planning on (or relying on more like it) killing at least 3 of them, the fight is over. When you say "you've corrected it quite quickly" I'd have said you should've been trying to hook to the window, and taking peak shots from either the other window, or the top corner; preferably the other window as it has better escape routes. Then breaking it down a bit more, when we kill their Mei, our Dva loses her mech to their Junk, this fight was long over, so even taking a pot shot was a bad decision, when the Dva started chasing us, because we let it get that far, we shouldn't have stopped running and =maybe= got away. Zen not healing is also an issue, as we recognize this, and can't stay in any sort of fight as long as we could with support, which makes us play much less aggressively, and leads into other situations like the high ground call; the thought being "I can't sustain this position or relocate if they decide to jump on me even with cover, and if they jump on me what consequences do my team mates inflict on them?" The short answer (especially in Bronze) is usually "no consequences, so they'll jump me and I'll die" annnnnnd "Dying is the worst thing you can do in Overwatch". LOL. I just want to see a whole (well done) coaching video on the mindset of climbing, and what you can do to change your mindset. mechanical skill will come, but you need the proper mindset to win more games than you lose. Sorry for the rant, but while I enjoy the videos and all, I just can't help but notice everybody skips over this extremely important point. "You should be aggressive here on Doomfist, you have your ult and can run away" Okay, ---aggressive--- or even or "THEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOOMFIST?!?!?!" - k swap to any other character, but those players still gonna try and focus you, same results. OverStun. Ugh, I'm still ranting. Anyways, I enjoy the videos, but they could be better if you can put more emphasis on the mindset of the ranks as well.
From my experience in a couple of games in bronze (totally wasn't smurfing) I've found projectile heroes are usually super easy just from getting random kills like hanzo/torb/junkrat/pharah (a lot of players in these ranks struggle to hit pharah so it can usually be a good pick, but don't just fly out in the open) obviously skill is involved for precise shots. If you want to truly work on mechanical skill, positioning and in general game sense I think tracer is a great pick for these low ranked games, people don't usually turn around and just ignore the tracer in the backlines, or you'll get hard focused the entire match and it's better to just swap to cree/ashe and try get value there, (but if you're being hard focused in the backlines it usually creates an opening for your team, but this is bronze, so... not much value).
Differents is (most) Zen's in Diamond actually try to win yeah the hero isn't great right now but they are trying, however this Zen in Bronze is trying to lose on purpose just to be a prick to his/her teammates.
"Never ever kill yourself" Isn't resetting a thing for you dont get staggered and the enemy team doesn't just snowball the 5v6 the whole game (depending on the situation) you might have just been boomed but just wondering
Yeah, something about Sty that gets on my nerves. While yes, in the porkbelly meta, Hanzo isn't the best DPS pick, this is something that needs to be kept in mind: players at this rank are going to piss on team comp and yeet it out the window. At this rank, you just need to be proficient with ANY given hero, and you'll climb
D.Va pushes McCree inside the tunnel, Sty "Ok we can't beat this so we go back to the payload." McCree goes on to destroy the D.Va.......Sty you forget one big advantage the McCree has....it's bottom bronze lol.
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The zen was literally throwing lol
Yeah emoting right in front of 1 hp widow
Of course he was, he was playing zen
i don't think he orbed any player the whole game. lucio might have been soft throwing too but the zen was definitely hard throwing. how they won, beats me
he reminds me of a good player playing on a smurf trying to lose sr so he can smurf lol
Thanks for clearing that up, I thought he was figuratively throwing.
Mccree: I need healing
Zen: Ults into the abyss
Embrace nothingness!
Winston: Curious
Zarya: You have failed your team
The best advice you could get from this video, 500% report that Zen
We need Overwatch Bronze League - It would be infinitely more popular than current OWL.
IKR!! Like seeing people do good is boring and it would be way more entertaining to see a team struggle to to group up.
Best Idea ever, that would be a comedy owl xD i love it
great, then we will have a similar thing happening in the Paralympics where they hire professionals that try to act like they are crippled
No it wouldn’t
@@jedzias8919 so you would buy tickets to watch bronze players? Yeah right
The zen was definitely throwing hope he got reported
Ye same
If a bottom 500 cares about their rank they wouldn't be bronze
Well the first 3 letters of his name is IDC so yeah defs was throwing !!!!!!!
Or he just bad
that zen was a legend
People complain about 'zero heal', then bottom 500 healers be like 'I can do worse than that'
😂😂😂😂
Kuno F. Yea I think the payload had gold healing 😂
danehb89 u haven’t uploaded since 6 yrs ago lol
If 15k heals is 'Zero Healing' in Gold, Bronze is -15k
Mei misses a point black shot on emoting zen thats something else wow.
Actually he could’ve just made a dumb mistake pros have done dumb things on accident as well
@@Personal_Info145 hes bronze that’s not a dumb mistake there’s no comparison between bronze aim and pros making mistakes
@@Handleforyt12345 it's the same mistakes, bronze players just have a 50000% higher chance to do them
@@johnhiggins4513 true
Actualnoobish my point is watch noob hunter/freshnuts/daily Overwatch moments, pros/ high level players do pretty dumb things, and not even on purpose, and so my point there is that Mei didn’t necessarily miss cuz of badness (I’m not suggesting that they aren’t bad, but that might not be a reason for the missing of shots)
The zen is likely a plat player or something that wants to do a bottom 500 to diamond video or something 😂 bc he is HARD throwing, no way that hes actually trying to win
Ah yes, bottom 500 to Diamond. The unskilled version of unranked to GM.
@@Nibmeister highly doubt hes anywhere near gm.so yes 😂
Nibmeister in bottom 500 to diamond, you actually have to carry your team every single game, and make your way through a bunch of ranks. unranked to gm, you’ll place closer to gm. let’s say you get diamond, then it’ll be easier to reach grandmaster. so it’s not really the unskilled version, i think it’ll be much harder
@@Sp4rklegore It will have difficulties in different ways but it isn't harder. This could be done by people in high diamond/low master while unranked to GM actually requires GM skills
If ur a gm smurfing in bronze you should be IP banned. Get that crap out of here.
Sty: NEVER EVER kill yourself
Me: life lessons with stylosa
I hope you reported that Zen, clearly hard throwing the game. Hate people like that, they should all get banned
Especially if they do it in a competitive game 😤
True report that bastard
lol it was funny 😂
@@thebigwilly123 It was better when people did it in 2016 or in arcade lol
I started playing a little over three weeks ago because overwatch was on a like 60% off deal of something. Can you explain why throwing is so back and what it is? I mean I did spend a whole game just saying hi and emoting with the enemy’s in an arcade game. Is that okay?
10:16 omg the widow was literally 1 hp and the zen was 2 inches away and didn't heal, I am dying laughing right now. As a support main this kills me. hahahaha.
that zen shows everything wrong with overwatch
10:30 Stylosa somehow failed to point out the throwing zenyatta lol
I think he was surprised
I think he didn't want to focus on that as the goal is to help the player that sent this in and it was better just to focus on things that could be helped.
@@FredCracklin that sounds reasonable but he pointed out that same player throwing at the beginning.
@@loganzumpano that's the beginning, of course he says something about it
It kind of irritates me that he never even acknowledged it.
I think this video actually demonstrates how hard it is for supports to climb out of bronze (at least solo). Both supports here were throwing to some degree and they still won, which means the enemy supports were not able to have enough impact to win the game even against two throwers.
The lucio was Redshell. He’s a top 500 Reddit lucio. He has a video of this game I think
@@anuraow source?
seems like a fellow bronze support copium for me. Pls take your head out of your ass and buy a mouse or sell your pc. Youre literally wasting your time.
Do not consider buying ow 2 and touch a girl instead.
Cheers sir
@@anuraow I just noticed that and yeah, that is one of his alts. He was doing a frog run through Bronze if I recall correctly.
To his credit, I think I've never seen a worse healing duo...
#1 most important thing this player (or anyone else in their position) needs to do: memorize the locations of the health packs and stop asking for heals. Yes, Zen was throwing, and Lucio was probably a smurf slumming it from low gold or so who doesn't give a damn if he wins or not, or about healing his team, he just wants to practice sick reddit Lucio tricks at a rank where he doesn't die instantly trying them... but *regardless* of that, you still won't get *any* heals even from legitimate Bronze players as long as you're in triple-digits Bronze, and *rarely* even in high Bronze.
When queuing for DPS at that rank you have *at least* 10 minutes queue waiting, probably much longer. Spend half your queues in aim-training or death match, and spend the other half loading up an empty custom game and just walking through making note of all the health pack locations. Figure out the shortest routes from all the best high ground perches to the nearest health packs, and figure out all the best routes from the health packs to the main areas where the fighting is likely to be. You just need to know that.
A Bronze DPS that relies on Bronze supports for healing is going to *stay* a Bronze DPS forever.
True^ I did this in low gold when I was learning wrecking ball and it significantly improved my games
Actually the lucio was Redshell a top 500 reddit lucio who goes on smurfs for content.
I hate this zen on your team,He’s clearly HARD THROWING
He’s probably been drinking
I had a mei that would use her walls to sabotage and spam the I'm sorry
He is playing Zen like god intended
Holy shit that was so funny when he ulted into the well tho
Well to be fair he needed healing
when the mei has a worse accuracy then the widow lmao
What are you doing here Weiss?
That zen was such a dirty thrower
Stylosa: think logically
Zenyatta: I shall logically die
Zen and Lucio were throwing. Smurfs on lower rank matches have become a huge problem/let down that Blizzard doesn't seem to want to address with any urgency. Which is sad because it ruins the game for us (lower tier) and for new players. You as a coach and with your popularity, should start addressing the issue when you see it instead of making fun of the bronze players for just being terrible at the game.
Lmao bronze funny haha bronze
Smurfs don't ruin the game though. If you want to climb, you just have to get better, it's that simple. Also find a duo or 3 stack to play with.
it's an impossible problem that every rank faces even GM's complain about top 500 players smurfing in their games
I think Lucio was just braindead. I don’t think he was throwing.
Part of the reason why I don’t play ranked games anymore
That mei was aiming with the movement keys.
She walked sideways to recorrect the aim.
I've seen bronze but.. this deserves something else...
Honestly probably could’ve been a console player or someone using a controller, I played quite a bit of console before getting a PC that can run anything. Movement is a big part of aiming with a controller
Ryan Granquist if you think that, you’re aiming wrong lmao
vvvs 2145s I’m not saying it’s entirely movement but movement is a much bigger portion of console aiming than it is on PC
Ryan Granquist Mabey like bad players but most people just aim with the stick to aim and if turn off aim assist you can literally flick
I tried once aiming with movement keys and it is pretty effective. I tried it because I was being accused of hacking, just because I tend to flick a lot. I did pop off several times aiming with movement keys, but it is extremely boring to play that way and that is why I stopped. The idea is to only move the mouse up and down, and adjust your left and right with movement keys, you will try to keep the mouse at head level and shoot when the mouse is on the head of the person. Of course, occasionally you will need to flick when someone is way off your crosshair, but that type of aiming is specially effective when the enemy team is playing together, while peaking, or controlling a choke.
"I'm a hardstuck bronze widowmaker how do I get out"
Me: *Play junkrat*
Nah just pick bastion and sit in a corner somewhere.
No report the zen and he'll instantly be in top 500
And then I fired again. And then I missed. And then I fired, and then I fired, and I missed. I missed both times. And then I fired. And I missed.
i fired and i hit something, but it wasn't what i was going for. so i guess i missed.
I love this lmao
You can’t underestimate what a flanking Bastion can do at low ranks. Most players wont even turn around before they die.
Low/Mid Bronze is actually pretty hard to get out of. No teamwork and so many throwers and leavers.
its actually so easy if u have good aim u will get out in a couple hours
@@Nate-qu3gr Its more difficult than it seems, love. Some people's whole team is as good as throwing.
@@spycenrice8108 Actually, it depends on what character your playing and what rank you actually belong in (assuming you don't belong in Bronze).
@@Nate-qu3gr how do you want to get out, if someone leaves and you lose the game and lose SR?
@@sselesUneeuQ yeah that's true, but when you get put with low teammates and you belong in gold or something, you can't carry the team that hard. Maybe a diamond or someone higher could but I see your point
Zen just wasn’t going to heal and that was soooo triggering
He also decided to emote again at 10:06
You know these guys are future pro players
Charlie Dunbabin my mind is blown
Hey Sty, I think the mouse thing issue is because the person is using a mouse with a ball, rather then an optical mouse. Probably been a while since you've seen how that looks but I think we are looking at that here in this video. Assuming I am correct, the person may be using the mouse for different reasons unrelated to the game directly, and thus don't want to talk about mouse-aim issues. Also Payload only Heals when On Attack.
who uses those mice anymore
...I completely forgot those existed... Lol
30:57 just in case there were any doubts that Zen and Lucio were working together to throw the game. It’s not bad play, it’s not “omg bronze”, it’s throwing.
It’s not throwing. The lucio was Redshell. He’s a top 500 reddit lucio. He has a video of this exact game I’m pretty sure. If he was doing anything he was boosting
@@anuraow He isnt boosting if he is losing them the game
@@anuraow who cares lol it's still throwing if he's not healing his team, barely getting kills and beating for himself
Mei was blinded by the Iris.
The way this video opens with an execution, bronze is brutal
Plot twist: the Zen wasn't throwing he was just doing bad to give his teammates encouragement to do better. Like he's providing emotional support and I'd take that over heals any day
So you say, all my healers in Plat are giving me Emotional Support?
😂😂😂
@@hiiambarney4489
Yup in fact, I would say that all of our teammates are trying to give us emotional support that's why they make us angry all the time because anger can be a motivater and it's also a healthy emotion to express.
@@erieyoung2615
It worked to because they ended up winning. Like that trans off the edge of the map when now one was around was just his way of saying
" I know you guys can win this without my ult "
ACE CLOP 😂 I need to finish the video, but I just had to come to the comments to check out the Zen talk!
I really wish I could see the end stats... I'm curious if that zen did any healing...
he did like 23 healing off his one trance where he threw himself off the map and thats literally it
@@SebastianReedAndrews 32:11
at the end of the game the zen used his ult to save from a sigma ult, that was the only good play i saw out of him the entire game
That Zen is throwing but the enemy team can’t catch
These bronze coaching videos make me feel like I’m a good player, but in reality I’m Plat. I still love these low bronze reviews though because you can teach good habits from the ground up.
Knew that zen was throwing when he was emoting at the beginning lol
Zen was at 99.9% chill. I thought he was Neo for a second when Mei missed. There was absolutely no reason the 1st shot should've missed.
Then again, Mei was in the middle of moving when she first shot. Then she corrected herself.
It's so hard for me to play Widow
*Its also hard for me to aim*
Just click on the heads
Just play moira
Play Winston , moria , Symetra, rein , sigma, brig , or rodhog is questionable if u cant hit hook but great value
@Bruh Man sigma has shield
@Bruh Man why would he feed as rodhog
My dream is to one day see Sty scooting about on his electric scooter and say hi to him
I am pretty sure that zen was trolling like crazy and deliberately deranking...
I love that you have been doing more bronze videos, as a new player they are a huge help
That "You have failed your team" by Zarya was on point
"ELO Hell doesn't exist"
*Throwing Zen*
hes explaining everything so well holy shit
That Mei missing a point blank shot is peak bronze
That zen was throwing the whole game which is infuriating to say the least.
Also Sty Killing yourself isn't the worst thing in Overwatch. Look at baby D.va when the fight is lost.
I’m new to overwatch just got it a few months ago and your vids help a lot keep up the entertaining videos, my first rank was high gold and that blew my mind now I’m mid gold, your vids really help
The zen is probably trying to be the lowest player in bronze 😂
I like how Sty tries to focus on the player being coached rather than the Thrownatta
This is the literal definition of 0 Heals and I'm unable to understand how the enemy team managed to lose that. It shouldn't be possible even in Bronze.
One time we won with 6 dps in high gold so it's totally possible
@@WaveOfDestiny 6 DPS is still better than two tanks and two DPS while 2 healers do nothing or, at best, amount to a third DPS.
The fact that he was talking about thinking logically then seeing a Zen ult and jump into the abyss has me dead man 🤣😭
"Bottom 500... literally have nothing to lose"
Thats some white phosphorus type burn right there XD
Yep, his zen was just throwing...
Nothin like transing Zens falling off maps to start my day
pretty sure he jumped off LOL
Alucard lol
I saw a Mercy take a moment to notice the rest of our team was down then pull out a gun and run into the entire 6 person enemy team for no discernible reason. It was amazing. Mercy died quick.
That Zen is the one everyone talks about when they say "heElUrZ R USeLeSs"
LOL!!! Yeah!
Zen: welll time to throw
Stylosa: Wait! What’s this tactic ive never seen it before
13:04:
Stylosa: I think logically
Zen: I don't even know what that means
Stylosa trying to make a point about logical thinking
Zen: Yeah but no... (13:00)
The thing about bronze is you get hard stuck because of leavers, throwers, and the occasional smurf/account booster.
Not if you're better than most bronze players
statistically you will get as many throwers, leavers, and smurfs as the other team, so if you play better than a bronze you will always climb out of bronze.
One thing about bronze is that sometimes, no matter how good you are, you can't carry your teammates sometimes
You can't really carry in this game at all. You need your team to actually work.
@@lililing14 but all the people in the comments and all streamers say you can carry!
Watching Bronze is either pure rage fuel or you will laugh so hard your stomach hurts. There is no in between.
Thank you for analysising my game!
18:01 uhm no, the payload doesn’t heal when you’re on defense 🤷🏻♀️
fr? this explains so much
The zen was the best art of this video. The trans especially! Watched it over and over dying of laughter. Even with no healers both throwing, you STILL won! haha
imagine walking down the street and then see stylosa riding around on a electric scooter
I'd love to see that
Stylosa's comment about checking the kill feed is huge. So much information right there for you.
Yo I watch these for your reactions😂 you be genuinely confused by the bronze play
I love your videos, and I definitely need help with overwatch. But it’s a lovely bonus that you’re so easy on the eyes and the accent... beautiful. ♥️
I started dying laughing when zen ulted off the map 😂😂😂
i know everybody is commenting about the zen but i thought it was just going to be silly throwing, not infuriating. imagine being in bottom 500 trying your hardest to climb but you can't even perform at your best because your zen refuses to heal and decides to emote next to you as you're literally at 4hp. that's so shitty and unfair, i hope the people who tried their best this game have been able to climb a little bit and haven't given up.
the fact that they won with the throwing zen is insane
Sty, your videos have helped me become a better OW player. Thank you so much!
Stylosa: "Hanzo is the worst DPS in the game right now."
Symmetra: *exists*
Bronze is essentially throwing until one team wins
I was losing my shit to when you finally noticed the zen😂
Sty was not expecting Zen to ult off the map lol
Really this person just isn’t getting any help from the team, they aren’t good but thier team certainly isn’t giving them heals or barriers too often
That Zenyatta player was the real star of this show, loved how he ulted and just jumped into abyss :D
Sty, I love your channel, they're very informative. Here's my problem, especially with some of the advice you give in this video, most in particular on the third point of defense.
Nobody ever talks about experience or actual rank; yeah, sure it's bronze, mistakes and mechanical issues will plague the players, but they also have the same mindset. In most games though, the experience is different - each game varies, but digress - when you give the advice "you could've walked away from the fight (on first point) that's usually not an option, as the Dva/Junk/Moira know where they are, and are after them, and while I wouldn't have taken the shot at the Orisa, they are on us now too. 4 people, and you only have 2 options of escape; back and into the top corner, which Junk/Dva can easily access, Moira can throw the Orb, and if we get as far as the window Orisa can pull/pre-auto-fire into it, or we can go back the way the Dva was chasing us, and we'd be split from our team but in a "better" position. I think the idea of killing yourself at this point, is more about not getting too staggered from your team and getting a better position in the next fight, though the thought of escape came too late. That's the mindset; this player didn't realize the fight was lost before the Dva began chasing, so it's more of a game sense issue; throwing the mine is a good option because Dva is chasing, but we shouldn't be there in the first place... we should have already been through the window.
All that being said, you suggest on the McRee to keep the high ground in the corner, despite our isolation from our team, why? "Imagine if we were here" and the whole team decided to look directly at us and shoot. It only takes a Mei shot (again, bronze, so unlikely but possible), and a few missiles from Dva and we're dead. Yes, they're "backing off", but they're all alive. This advice is sort of where the rank comes in; playing to your opponents rank as well. See, sometimes, when you play like a Plat player in a Silver game, you can and do get destroyed because your team is all Silver as well. Your Mercy gets distracted by the Rein who's taken a few points of damage and is now backing off calling for healing, while you're already mid dive and about to be focused into oblivion. Sure "don't dive" but we've already communicated and decided, and we're going in and our Rein is coming with us and our Rein is gone, and we're now the front line... While our Rein is backing off and we're dying our Ashe is dueling their Ashe and losing. All of these things compile into poor quality games and it's hard to climb.
I just can't get over how most coaches completely skip over the team's mentality, and focus on personal improvements, which is a fine lesson and good advice, but when all of your games are focused on you (which is generally my experience), people chase you down because they know your team can't/won't do anything to stop them. So retreat is usually not an option and it drives me mental when coaches suggest it. "Based on my position from the time I realized the fight was lost watching this clip, how do I escape?" If it were me, I realized the fight was over when you were talking about the low ground - Zen's dead, Orisa's on her way back from spawn, Bastion's dead... We've killed their Mei, but it's still 5v3, and they still have Mercy rez. So unless I'm planning on (or relying on more like it) killing at least 3 of them, the fight is over. When you say "you've corrected it quite quickly" I'd have said you should've been trying to hook to the window, and taking peak shots from either the other window, or the top corner; preferably the other window as it has better escape routes. Then breaking it down a bit more, when we kill their Mei, our Dva loses her mech to their Junk, this fight was long over, so even taking a pot shot was a bad decision, when the Dva started chasing us, because we let it get that far, we shouldn't have stopped running and =maybe= got away. Zen not healing is also an issue, as we recognize this, and can't stay in any sort of fight as long as we could with support, which makes us play much less aggressively, and leads into other situations like the high ground call; the thought being "I can't sustain this position or relocate if they decide to jump on me even with cover, and if they jump on me what consequences do my team mates inflict on them?" The short answer (especially in Bronze) is usually "no consequences, so they'll jump me and I'll die" annnnnnd "Dying is the worst thing you can do in Overwatch". LOL.
I just want to see a whole (well done) coaching video on the mindset of climbing, and what you can do to change your mindset. mechanical skill will come, but you need the proper mindset to win more games than you lose. Sorry for the rant, but while I enjoy the videos and all, I just can't help but notice everybody skips over this extremely important point. "You should be aggressive here on Doomfist, you have your ult and can run away" Okay, ---aggressive--- or even or "THEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOOMFIST?!?!?!" - k swap to any other character, but those players still gonna try and focus you, same results. OverStun.
Ugh, I'm still ranting. Anyways, I enjoy the videos, but they could be better if you can put more emphasis on the mindset of the ranks as well.
Yup, hopefully the Zen player got suspended, but Winston's "curious" was such gold.
Bro this is some zen tech I need to write this down
I was already laughing at the Zen sitting in the corner, but I completely lost it when Mei missed from 3 ft away.
TFW the healthpacks have gold healing...
This bronze widow was just featured in flats videos 10 months later and they're still no better. They are the definition of bronze.
Poor guy, got no healing at all
AC Milan 1899 picking hitscan when you can’t aim is the equivalent of picking support and not healing. Think about it,
@@MovieTrialers yes but at least he is genuinely trying. Definitely not the same
Suffers from the low rank disease of ignoring high ground advantage.
From my experience in a couple of games in bronze (totally wasn't smurfing) I've found projectile heroes are usually super easy just from getting random kills like hanzo/torb/junkrat/pharah (a lot of players in these ranks struggle to hit pharah so it can usually be a good pick, but don't just fly out in the open) obviously skill is involved for precise shots. If you want to truly work on mechanical skill, positioning and in general game sense I think tracer is a great pick for these low ranked games, people don't usually turn around and just ignore the tracer in the backlines, or you'll get hard focused the entire match and it's better to just swap to cree/ashe and try get value there, (but if you're being hard focused in the backlines it usually creates an opening for your team, but this is bronze, so... not much value).
I like how the supports were spawn camping half of the enemy team
90% of comments: Zen is hard throwing
Me: Welcome to diamond
Differents is (most) Zen's in Diamond actually try to win yeah the hero isn't great right now but they are trying, however this Zen in Bronze is trying to lose on purpose just to be a prick to his/her teammates.
when you zoom in to the zen who is spawn camping on their attack, they had actually been back there like the whole time. It blew me away
"Never ever kill yourself" Isn't resetting a thing for you dont get staggered and the enemy team doesn't just snowball the 5v6 the whole game (depending on the situation)
you might have just been boomed but just wondering
At this level the enemy doesn't even know of the phrase "staggered spawns"
I think this is a player that should come back on a future OverAnalzyed
😂 I’m rolling at Zen right now. What a douche! 😂
(I’d be so heated if I were playing, though?!)
THE HEALTH PACK WAS ON THE WALL. Truly over analyzed, love that
I’m hardstuck high masters dps and sometimes think I’m trash at the game, then I watch stuff like this lol.
Bruh im stuck gold and I think I'm shit and I don't understand why you think that when you know that you're the second highest rank in game.
Here's the attention you ordered 🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣
This poor dude never got any healing either lol
Stylosa Hanzo was a good pick he’s a shield breaker and they had two shields
Yeah, something about Sty that gets on my nerves. While yes, in the porkbelly meta, Hanzo isn't the best DPS pick, this is something that needs to be kept in mind: players at this rank are going to piss on team comp and yeet it out the window. At this rank, you just need to be proficient with ANY given hero, and you'll climb
hanzo is also a good pick against bastion if you can get the angle because of storm arrow
AJ also true Hanzos storm arrows can a kill a bastion fast
D.Va pushes McCree inside the tunnel, Sty "Ok we can't beat this so we go back to the payload." McCree goes on to destroy the D.Va.......Sty you forget one big advantage the McCree has....it's bottom bronze lol.