Grew up in the 90s and first half of 00s, i couldn't wait go home and watch todays games. Now it's almost unbearable to be honest, everyone is standing outside waiting for the 3ball, where is the fight for rebounds and stuff like that 🤷♂️
No travels or double dribble calls . Everyone just shooting 3s including centers. Players taking games off players joining up for super teams ...which isnt much of a thing anymore really unless you're Lebron. Players basically running the team as the GM I get you want the players input but to give in to the player's every wish and demand is ridiculous.
@brianjones7660 still telling jokes, bro. you should get a sense of humour before you respond. I sling steel, weld, and destroy my body every day on my own merit. do you seriously think we are being serious?
Whether players and fans today want to admit it or not, this generation of NBA players aren't mentally wired like the players of old. Athletically, they are gifted. But that's where it starts and ENDS.
Sorry most Gen Z doesnt know how to judge true talent and want to call any player that wins 1 ring a goat based on 3 point prowess. Yes, they're more athletic now then ever but game has gotten out hand.
I checked out when GSW started to shoot more 3s than 2s and the Houston Rockets would play small ball with a 6'7 ft guy as the center. I'm like " wtf is happening "
One of the reasons the UFC has bit of momentum now is Alex Pereira. No bullshit, no sitting back and waiting for lucrative fights. Dude will sub in and fight on short-notice, and it's great.
@ yes anticipation is good but not too much. Especially after waiting an entire year to wind up seeing a weak fight. Or worse see them fight when they are out of their prime such as Floyd/pacqiao.
@@michaeljimerson9021The only players that load manage are Embiid, Kawhi, George and Jimmy Butler. Nobody is saying this stuff when star players sit out against the Hornets, Jazz or Wizards
@@tamaralowe8726but are the games good? Because I'm starting to see too many 20 point leads just be washed away cause everyone shoots threes. It's like a game of hot N cold out there
Is he really one of the best coaches though? He had David Robinson, Duncan for 19 years, Ginobili for 16 years, Parker for 17 years, Leonard for basically 6 years, and Aldridge for over 5 years. Since Aldridge was released, the team has been atrocious. Popovich was awful as the USA Basketball coach and barely squeaked by. Oh, and yes, he is the founder of resting players and an arrogant prick.
No, he bows to the zionists. He's no wise man. He's no hero. He's a sellout like everyone on TV. It's a real shame how ignorant everyone has become. Brainwashed by the American (jewish) school system.
They’re actually underpaid compared to what they bring in . The problem is the roster talent is so condensed: in other sports there’s more subtle ways to load manage by having more roster flexibility
They are mostly overpaid. A few exceptions to huge box office guys. We are talking about playing basketball. These players should strive to play all games. Barkley is totally right.
I was a Bulls fan in the 80's and 90's. If I turned on a game and saw Jordan riding the bench and there was nothing wrong with him, I'd be beyond pissed. I'd stop watching the games. Well, after Jordan retired in '03, I DID stop watching the games.
Yeah, 80s/90s NBA was absolute *peak* basketball, and it was excellent to the late 2000s. But the decline for me came in the early 2010s. I still watched games, but not religiously like from the 1990s to 2005. By 2012, I stopped watching regular season games altogether., As of right now, the NBA does nothing for me. I _might_ watch a couple games in the Finals... if I feel like it.
Baseball already killed itself. NFL is killing itself with rules changes, lack of accessibility, antiquated blackout rules, and TV timeouts. NBA is killing itself with awful traveling rules and boring play. It looks like a rec league game.
@msharp It should be more like m dull. Don’t be trying to refute what I am saying and defending this nonsense. There are plenty of videos and reports clearly stating the ratings are down and disappointment in the ratings. Go back to your la la land gen z world in the confines of your moms basement and write a hurt feelings report and send it to Adam silver spoon , hayseed!
It all stems from it being FAR too easy to make the playoffs. The owners want the extra revenue. However, stars can sit out or take it easy the entire season and still make the tournament.
Bingo. This is the answer, but it’s even before the play-in tournament started, which just further proves how much this change isn’t helping either. The NBA changed their playoff format around the same time that load management became a problem, and they have been too stupid to understand what they did and how it changed their game. Yes, players are much lazier today than they used to be, but the players are lazier now because they can afford to be lazier now. The regular season no longer matters, and hasn’t mattered for nearly two decades now. Pop was the first to recognize this, but now the whole league (and their fans) have caught up.
Millions of fans have already turned their back on the NBA. You can thank players like Lebron for that. Viewership is not what it used to be. Players sitting out games is also a big problem.
@@loudertv8676 No he's not lol. I stopped rooting for the Lakers as soon as LeBron got here. Trust me there's many many more that did the same thing too.
@@MartinTemple-n9p It’s not pandering to them. It’s taking their stats down. Well, the total points one is. But then they won’t get to keep their ‘per game’ averages high because that stat won’t be kept.
I used to just absolutely love watching the NBA. Over the last 8-10 years, I've just not cared for it. The game has just regressed in terms of style of play. Way too many 3s. Plus the traveling not being called is just horrendous. Also load management does have a lot to do with it. If the player doesn't care, then why should I care.
The owners are the problem. They just agreed to a new CBA deal last year with ZERO teeth in it to stop this silliness. The owners chose the new TV deal and labor peace over the fans and the long term quality of their product.
Unfortunately, I already abandoned the NBA and load management wasn’t even considered. The main issue is the availability to watch games in your local area without it being blacked out and the fact that nobody cares about the regular season. YTF would I support a league that blocks my ability to watch my local team and players who don’t try until May.
Live by the sword, die by the sword. The NBA didnt want to promote and teach fans growing up to love their teams over the players like the NFL and MLB did and for a while in the 2000s it worked for the league as a whole, making money hand over fist marketing the players more than the franchises. Now comes the cost of that decision, they need superstars on every team and they need them playing continually. You dont see NFL fans saying they want their money back if a team switched to its backup QB or if the RB2 is starting because their star RB fumbled twice the previous game. Same with MLB with star starting Pitchers, or an off day for elite closers, etc. Their fans love their teams no matter what. NBA fans just want to see their guy play and if the team wins its a bonus.
NBA chases casual fans even knowing that it turns off die-hard fans. What happens when you catch the attention of the casual fans? They might watch for a while, but as they get closer to becoming real fans, they start to see the gimmicks. So the obvious problem is that the more someone watches NBA, the more frustrated they get and they stop watching. The NFL gives you an exciting game, but they don’t dumb it down. Football has a lot of moving parts and it takes time to understand the intricacies of it. It’s not a game for the casual fan to really understand. Yet it’s the one thing that in 2024 tens of millions of fans will sit in front of a television for over three hours to watch.
It’s hypocritical for LeBron to be the one now, in the face of criticism, that commits to 82 games “if healthy,” but he’s the one that was the pioneer of the healthy scratch. He would sit out road games in small markets, often disappointing fans that payed to come and see him on what was scheduled to be his only regular season game in that market. I remember that happening in Memphis and Oklahoma City, I think, and I’m pretty sure that he sat out multiple games in Indianapolis over the years.
@@tigers7834 Pop started doing it as a team/coach’s decision. LeBron did it as a player’s/primadonna’s decision, and I’m pretty sure that LeBron did it first.
Last time i watched a full NBA game was when Toronto won the championship. Since then I've canceled my cable subscription. Only enjoyed basketball (was a fierce fan since the mid 80s) but now its not even on my radar.
Most young fans today don't really watch the game. They only watch the highlights. Even when they turn on the games, their eyes are mostly on their phones texting. They don't really pay attention to the game. So I don't know if all those commercials actually reach them because they are not even watching the game itself. This is why TBS would rather do college football than to overpay for the NBA. They know the real number and how much they actually make. Amazon is willing to overpay for the NBA package because they want to use it to get more people to sign on to their Prime package. Let see if it will work out the way Amazon want, otherwise they will lose money on the deal.
Welcome to the modern NBA. Players get paid ridiculous money to skip games, play awful basketball when they bother to show up, and then expect statues.
Would you get up if you had to play Utah, Charlotte or Washington? I can see if it is your few years in the NBA. The there teams are not even trying to win.
@@boomshakalaka8567 I am keeping it real. You do not hear fans complaining when the star players for Utah and Charlotte are sitting out because are they are “tanking” to get a better draft pick.
I would change it to this: 1. NBA players gets a base salary, rest of the money is prorated on amount of minutes active in the game. 2. Bring back hand checking, or other rules to punish three point percentage.
Or how aboutt his, the owner saying " this is how much money you can get each season if you reach up to our expectations, that means if you're not hurt or sick you play and you play to win every game, then you will get this salary after every season" Not giving them thier salaries before the job is done, you've just taking away thier motivation and reason because clearly nowdays the love and the passion for the alone isn't enough
The issue that I have with load management (other than the very concept, which is ridiculous) is that year after year the same players - Joel Embiid, Kawhi Leonard, Kristaps Porzingis, Paul George, Ben Simmons, Anthony Davis, etc. - are notoriously load managed, yet these same guys are on the shelf with injuries EVERY year.
Imagine spending your hard earned money on overpriced NBA tickets to watch your favorite player and team play only to be told he isn't playing due to load management. It's like paying to see your favorite singer in concert and they send out the background singer to perform instead.
I had one foot out the door after KD joined the warriors. Then in 2020 I was completely done for 2 seasons, but last season I started watching just the playoffs and holy cow the 3 pt attempts is crazy compared to just 6 years ago. Sad because I was a superfan from 1991-2016
That's why I still love college basketball 🏀 Those 18 to 20 year olds. Are going to play their hearts out. And the college b ball games is more competitive. Especially March Madness!
Basketball was my favorite sport growing up back I the 90s. 3 point shot destroyed the game of basketball. These guys are making too much money. That's the problem. You pay these guys per game you best to believe these superstars will play every game to get their money. I hate what the NBA stands for now. I stop watching basketball after the lakers I the 2000s. Kobe Bryant was the last old school nba star who played every game and took his job serious. I wouldn't pay a dollar to watch these nba players play.
Play 82 games to eliminate 10 teams is a scheme to steal money from the fans. The regular season just doesn’t mean anything anymore. Baseball regular season is insanely long but at least you eliminate 18 teams after that.
Already did, paid a bunch of money to go see a GSW game a couple years back and they sat all the starters, paid all that money to watch some bench players, not like they give you a heads up before you purchase your tickets 😂
To me it's hilarious fans defend the players who play barely more than half a season...missing many games despite being healthy as they are getting paid a million per game is ridiculous
Get paid for the games you play is a great idea. The stars would get a baseline salary of say 25 mil a year but if they want big bucks they have to play. Players wouldn’t like it but they’d get over it. They’re not going to go somewhere else to play. Something has to change.
The players don't care about the regular season. The fans know the players don't care about the regular season, so they don't care about the regulars season. Give people 82 games to not care about your product and it will become their default setting.
That's never going to happen. The owners, the players and the NBA itself all make the kind of money Charles is talking about because there are 80+ regular season games on TV/streaming per team, and each playoff series is now 7 games instead of the old 5 games, and there are the play-in games for even a bit more TV license money.
Dennis Rodman went to Vegas during the playoffs and had to be dragged back to practice by MJ himself. Scottie Pippen refused to go back in a playoff game because Phil Jackson drew up the final play to use him as a decoy and for Kukoc to hit the game-winner. Michael Jordan would play 20 holes of golf before a game. Meanwhile, LeBron spends $1M/yr on his body. He perfectly optimizes his diet so he plays at his peak. He has a hyperbaric chamber in his house that helps him recover after games. So, I'm gonna ask you. How do you measure passion? The goal is to win an NBA title not any individual game.
@@boomshakalaka8567 Every team is different on how they deal with their star players. I could tell you Allen Iverson used to party hard, not go to practice and still drop 35.
I stopped watching the NBA a few years ago. The prices of the tickets are just too much to watch big babies. Prices continue to go up and dumb people pay it! Eventually they’ll make 300 million a year while the middle class keeps getting screwed.
Yep I used to watch the NBA several games a week for decades but the last ten years have been awful the all star game is a joke none of the games are entertaining until the playoffs and even then weak the league is a joke and Bronny being drafted is a joke and laughable players are trash today
It’s too late to get the fans who have left back. Once someone decides to stop watching it’s too late. Then if that fan has already went an entire playoff cycle they are never coming back. Maybe later if their kids get into it. Or a team moves to the area they live in. Their only real move is to try and get young people who are not fans to get interested in the game. They have earned every bit of this situation.
Lebron saying he wanna play 82 games after he load managed his whole career is hilarious and dan patrick just tryna push propaganda is sad lebron is the reason load management became popular!
I’ve been a Jazz fan all my life (still am) but I live around 11 hours from SLC. Stockton was my fav player and my parents would surprise me with tickets to a Jazz game for Christmas or my birthday when I was little, we’d go every year and I would have been totally gutted if we drove all that way only for Stock to “have a rest day” People don’t realize how much money people spend to go to these games. Tickets, and a lot of times hotel, gas, food.
FOLKS LUV HOW CHARLES SAID WE DONT EVEN HAVE REAL JOBS. WE PLAY BASKETBALL, PREACH CHARLES 🙌 LAZY MFCKERS IN THE LEAGUE NOW FOLKS, THANK GOD I DONT LOOSE SLEEP TO WATCH THESE LAZY CLOWNS NOW AH DAYS
It's not the players choice.its the organizations choice. Just like how Zach Edey couldn't play for team Canada he can't because it's the grizzlies choice. Gilbert Arenas said when the team decides u ain't playing your jersey ain't even in the locker. Organizations have done a great job skirting the blame and putting it completely on the player for this load management thing.
What? You know how many fans hated the NBA after MJ? It was called too hip hop. Let’s not act like the fans were celebrating the NBA over the Malace in the Palace. Stop romanticizing things.
A while ago when I was really young I was in Miami for spring break and my mom got me tickets to see the Heat play when Lebron was there, and right it was right before playoffs. I was so excited to see Lebron play but right before the game started I found out Lebron was “resting” for playoffs and this was when he was in his prime! Most of the players are like this now and it’s part of what’s killing the game.
I passed on clipper season tickets at the new arena for that very reason. Not spending that much money for all the star players to sit out when I go to the games. I pretty much threw in the towel with nba basketball at this point. I was fortunate enough to see basketball from the 80s til now. Been a bulls fan the entire time. So I saw pre dance, 1st dance-the last dance in real time and it was so much fun. Never will be duplicated again. And that seem to be all people care to talk about now days are the 90s Bulls, because the current nba suck so bad. I never was a fan of baseball and football... but I'm starting to like watch MLB and NFL now. Probably will give NHL a try too. But pro basketball is complete turn off at this point.
The way you solve this load management nonsense is reduce the number of games from 82 to 58. 29 opponents. Each team plays every team twice 1 home and 1 away. Get rid of divisions and conferences. The top 14 teams make the playoffs instead of 16 with the top two getting first round byes. Two less teams make the playoffs and there’s just 58 games making each game more important! As far as the three point shot goes, turn the hoop into a double rim. Everyone knows that a double rim is much more difficult to shoot on. These simple changes will make a big difference.
I love the NBA, but I can’t disagree with what Chuck is saying. I think load management is more about keeping guys fresh for the playoffs than players just being lazy, but ultimately it makes the regular season feel pointless. Lots of DNPs, lots of blowouts.
Where was the collective outrage when pop was doing this ? He used to rest those guys for key games not care and take the fine . And what did he say “ we prolonged these guys careers”
Rule change....get rid of 3pts. 2pts scoring in the key zone, 1pt from outside the key. Watch the defense tighten up trying to stop the big boyz drive it to the hoop.
3:10 you shouldn’t have to do anything besides telling these players to man up and do their jobs. Media is so afraid to hurt these players feelings, that they stand by, smiling and nodding when an nba player complains about their pay, or how the nba expects too much from them. Stop coddling these grown men, and the game will fix itself.
It’s like baseball…all walks, strikeouts and home runs. Pitch clock helped slightly. NBA? Bring back physicality, hand checking, etc. get rid of the rules about 3 seconds on defense, the spread court, etc. maybe push the 3’s a couple of feet back….or, dump it altogether
If we got back to the 80s, teams were worth like 40 million. Now it's a billion plus. Chuck was getting big money, then. He'd be getting like 40 million with inflation, probably 90 million with today's money. I'm all for players getting the money. They are the product. Contracts should reflect the work they put in and the massive profit the league makes. Problem is, the rich have made so much obscene cash, they're building multi billion dollar stadiums, paying billions for teams, they of course offset expense with charging fans a ton more. We've been getting priced out for years and years. The invention of PSLs changed things for the worse. The weight is unsustainable.
When i was a kid i used to loom forward to watching the nba on the nightly bases , not only my team but different teams Now ; i either A watch my own team only B : xmas day games Or c playoffs only .
Chuck ain't wrong. The NBA is making it real easy. I'd turn to the NFL, but they are about to prove a lot of people right with it being "scripted". NHL goes hard. My town has an NAHL team, fun games.
I stopped watching basketball as much as I use too when LeBron went to my Lakers , he trade all players , gets rid of coaches ,always crying and now has his son on the team , players have to much power with to much money and owners bend the knee and now ppl like me and many more don't watch basketball as much because of the flopping and load managing
I don't know why anybody surprised about this team this is the team that told you for years that they was going to suck just to draft a hard quality player like Joe embid
"We don't have a real job. We're playing basketball."
This is why people call him Sir.
I can’t even watch basketball anymore, and I grew up loving this game
Grew up in the 90s and first half of 00s, i couldn't wait go home and watch todays games.
Now it's almost unbearable to be honest, everyone is standing outside waiting for the 3ball, where is the fight for rebounds and stuff like that 🤷♂️
It used to be my favorite sport. The 90s and 2000s. It’s a garbage product now. They desperately need to bring back handchecking.
Same with me. The 90s and early 2000s were Golden. Also me and my son have been watching reruns of Family Matters. 😂
No travels or double dribble calls . Everyone just shooting 3s including centers. Players taking games off players joining up for super teams ...which isnt much of a thing anymore really unless you're Lebron. Players basically running the team as the GM I get you want the players input but to give in to the player's every wish and demand is ridiculous.
Same. Havent watched a single game in 3 years. Over it. Mediocre players making 30 mil a year. Divas all.
Im an ironworker/welder. Im going to bring up load management at the next safety meeting...............
😂 good idea! I drive a semi downtown and deliver 12-14 hrs a day! I’m gonna try that too
😂😂
I use to be an ironworker and now I'm a truck driver and I agree with both of y'all lol
And let me ask you guys…..where will you be working NEXT week?? 😊
@brianjones7660 still telling jokes, bro. you should get a sense of humour before you respond. I sling steel, weld, and destroy my body every day on my own merit. do you seriously think we are being serious?
Whether players and fans today want to admit it or not, this generation of NBA players aren't mentally wired like the players of old. Athletically, they are gifted. But that's where it starts and ENDS.
True it starts with mentality
It's a softer generation, because life has gotten easier since the old days. These players aren't built like the past players.
@@chriskey7440 See Anthony Richardson.
Sorry most Gen Z doesnt know how to judge true talent and want to call any player that wins 1 ring a goat based on 3 point prowess. Yes, they're more athletic now then ever but game has gotten out hand.
@@MrBobbyj32 who care my granddad use to walk to school I drive my car he’s mentality tougher then me my knees will last way longer then his
i checked out 5 years ago
That is right about the time I checked out too.
Facts.. nba sucks
I checked out when GSW started to shoot more 3s than 2s and the Houston Rockets would play small ball with a 6'7 ft guy as the center. I'm like " wtf is happening "
Me about 7 years ago or so
2016 was the last good year of NBA
This is what killed boxing, the fighters got spoiled and only fight 1 or 2 times a year so fans stopped watching and now nobody cares about it.
That and getting it off network TV
Boxing used to be THE SPORT in America
Bro boxing was legit back then. Lots of guys today couldn’t handle the fighters of the past.
One of the reasons the UFC has bit of momentum now is Alex Pereira. No bullshit, no sitting back and waiting for lucrative fights. Dude will sub in and fight on short-notice, and it's great.
For boxing 🥊 those few fights worked,as it created anticipation and excitement. It is risky for a boxer to have many fights per year.
@ yes anticipation is good but not too much. Especially after waiting an entire year to wind up seeing a weak fight. Or worse see them fight when they are out of their prime such as Floyd/pacqiao.
Its crazy to even have to have a conversation about basketball players not wanting to play basketball, like wtf.
Like who? Yall take 2 players and act like that’s the whole league
@@daa_97 if that's true, it's still too many.
@@michaeljimerson9021The only players that load manage are Embiid, Kawhi, George and Jimmy Butler. Nobody is saying this stuff when star players sit out against the Hornets, Jazz or Wizards
These franchise should lose a boatload of profit and then cut the player an incentive based contract
@@Dimllll773 Name the teams you feel this way about? You are being your posts strictly off of emotions, not facts.
I've already turned my back cancelled my league pass subscription
Games have been good so far, but too many stars out already
@@tamaralowe8726but are the games good? Because I'm starting to see too many 20 point leads just be washed away cause everyone shoots threes. It's like a game of hot N cold out there
I had it one year. Wouldve been better if people played more. No real regular season match ups
Was a season ticket holder in New York. Haven't done it in 2 years because of this 💩. Haven't even watched on TV
@@tamaralowe8726yup we real fans loving it just let the physicality come back stop blowing that damn whistle every other drive to the rim
Last time I watched a full game was 2018 finals game. Since then I don’t have much of a desire to watch the NBA.
That's perfect since Prince James got destroyed that year.
I’m around the exact same timeframe bro! Couldn’t take it anymore
If players get paid to go to work, they gotta go to work. Plain and simple and short and sweet!
@@dreamcage1801 There only a handful of players that load manage. Monkey says this stuff about the Wizards and Hornets.
Kawhi laughed at this
@ well he shouldn’t be
Why Don't they pay players on results when the season is over ??
Stop paying them on potential, you take away the drive and the motivation
@@jimmykarlsson2567 makes them earn their pay by showing them you can play and get better
Popovich started this mess. He is one of the best coaches in history, but he is the main reason why this started with Spurs back then.
100%
To be honest though Kawhi has looked legitimately hobbled for the last 7 years.
He won a chip on one leg.
Watching the Spurs play during that time was a thing of beauty.
Today’s game is ugly and uninteresting to watch!
Is he really one of the best coaches though? He had David Robinson, Duncan for 19 years, Ginobili for 16 years, Parker for 17 years, Leonard for basically 6 years, and Aldridge for over 5 years. Since Aldridge was released, the team has been atrocious. Popovich was awful as the USA Basketball coach and barely squeaked by. Oh, and yes, he is the founder of resting players and an arrogant prick.
He did it with old players. Not men in their 20’s .
Charles is a national treasure. Protect this man
No, he bows to the zionists. He's no wise man. He's no hero. He's a sellout like everyone on TV. It's a real shame how ignorant everyone has become. Brainwashed by the American (jewish) school system.
NBA stars are making too much money and have too much power. They want to play when they feel like on their terms
Ninjas need to pull their heads outta their asses
Do you feel that way about the Jays? They play every game. Better yet, be a fan of the team and not the name on the back of jersey.
Too much according to who? You....u mad bro
They’re actually underpaid compared to what they bring in . The problem is the roster talent is so condensed: in other sports there’s more subtle ways to load manage by having more roster flexibility
They are mostly overpaid. A few exceptions to huge box office guys. We are talking about playing basketball. These players should strive to play all games. Barkley is totally right.
I was a Bulls fan in the 80's and 90's. If I turned on a game and saw Jordan riding the bench and there was nothing wrong with him, I'd be beyond pissed. I'd stop watching the games. Well, after Jordan retired in '03, I DID stop watching the games.
Yeah, 80s/90s NBA was absolute *peak* basketball, and it was excellent to the late 2000s. But the decline for me came in the early 2010s. I still watched games, but not religiously like from the 1990s to 2005. By 2012, I stopped watching regular season games altogether.,
As of right now, the NBA does nothing for me. I _might_ watch a couple games in the Finals... if I feel like it.
Entitled stars, 3 point chuck fest, zero D allowed, giving the Lakers a +20 ft advantage every game= garbage product
Baseball already killed itself.
NFL is killing itself with rules changes, lack of accessibility, antiquated blackout rules, and TV timeouts.
NBA is killing itself with awful traveling rules and boring play. It looks like a rec league game.
NHL has become sissy sport too. Nascar racing has become sissy sport. Social media and smart phones have ruined everything especially sports world
How would you rank the NHL?
@ dead
Check in on hockey
@@September2004nobody watches hockey outside of Canada. The NHL videos on RUclips barely get views compared to NBA or NFL.
Its not just too many 3s...its the constant isolation in-n-out crossover stepback into a 3 pointer...so over that play
It's like watching ten lazy people play a friendly pickup game at the YMCA.
“Eventually turn their back” ?
People have already started turning their back. Ratings suck
No they don't....They are determined differently because of social media...Also, international viewership is at an all time high....
@msharp
It should be more like m dull. Don’t be trying to refute what I am saying and defending this nonsense. There are plenty of videos and reports clearly stating the ratings are down and disappointment in the ratings. Go back to your la la land gen z world in the confines of your moms basement and write a hurt feelings report and send it to Adam silver spoon , hayseed!
Wrong rating are down 40 percent
@@scott783You’re emotional.
@@MrMoraltv exactly
Stop watching. Revenue drops and that begins a re-set.
It all stems from it being FAR too easy to make the playoffs. The owners want the extra revenue. However, stars can sit out or take it easy the entire season and still make the tournament.
Bingo. This is the answer, but it’s even before the play-in tournament started, which just further proves how much this change isn’t helping either.
The NBA changed their playoff format around the same time that load management became a problem, and they have been too stupid to understand what they did and how it changed their game. Yes, players are much lazier today than they used to be, but the players are lazier now because they can afford to be lazier now. The regular season no longer matters, and hasn’t mattered for nearly two decades now. Pop was the first to recognize this, but now the whole league (and their fans) have caught up.
@@Ezekial2517both of these answers are the long and short of it sadly .
I don’t think Philly fans agree with you today. 2-9
Millions of fans have already turned their back on the NBA. You can thank players like Lebron for that. Viewership is not what it used to be. Players sitting out games is also a big problem.
Lebron bringing in his shitty son helps turn off fans even more.
Lebron is the biggest draw in basketball bro.
@@loudertv8676 Doesn’t matter. LeBron is just as hated as he is loved
@lyndonchastain3181 make that make sense thanks
@@loudertv8676 No he's not lol. I stopped rooting for the Lakers as soon as LeBron got here. Trust me there's many many more that did the same thing too.
They not going to play 25min a game. It will bring down their averages. They rather miss the whole game, keep their stats in tact then play.
Bingo
Maybe they should change the stats and go with total points or points per 48 minutes of playing time.
@@September2004no. Stop pandering to these babies
@@MartinTemple-n9p It’s not pandering to them. It’s taking their stats down.
Well, the total points one is. But then they won’t get to keep their ‘per game’ averages high because that stat won’t be kept.
I used to just absolutely love watching the NBA. Over the last 8-10 years, I've just not cared for it. The game has just regressed in terms of style of play. Way too many 3s. Plus the traveling not being called is just horrendous. Also load management does have a lot to do with it. If the player doesn't care, then why should I care.
The walking and palming is just ridiculous.
The owners are the problem. They just agreed to a new CBA deal last year with ZERO teeth in it to stop this silliness. The owners chose the new TV deal and labor peace over the fans and the long term quality of their product.
Pay them by the hour and problem solved
Replace all American players with imports. You will see a real hunger to play.
What are you talking about? International players can all enter the draft. You might as well say replace them all with construction workers.
Unfortunately, I already abandoned the NBA and load management wasn’t even considered. The main issue is the availability to watch games in your local area without it being blacked out and the fact that nobody cares about the regular season. YTF would I support a league that blocks my ability to watch my local team and players who don’t try until May.
Drayton Green said most players don't love the game; they're just collecting a check
Players make way too much money to care. So they sit out games and just throw 3s up the entire game and whatever team makes more, wins the game.
Yes but would you rather they miss shots?
The regular season DOES NOT MATTER. The players treat it like that.
The 3-ball doesn’t bother me, but the load mgmt is definitely a problem. Also, I wish the defensive rules need to be adjusted too.
Yep. I won’t pay to take my son to a game for fear the star players won’t be there to watch.
Live by the sword, die by the sword. The NBA didnt want to promote and teach fans growing up to love their teams over the players like the NFL and MLB did and for a while in the 2000s it worked for the league as a whole, making money hand over fist marketing the players more than the franchises. Now comes the cost of that decision, they need superstars on every team and they need them playing continually. You dont see NFL fans saying they want their money back if a team switched to its backup QB or if the RB2 is starting because their star RB fumbled twice the previous game. Same with MLB with star starting Pitchers, or an off day for elite closers, etc. Their fans love their teams no matter what. NBA fans just want to see their guy play and if the team wins its a bonus.
Apples to oranges my friend
@loudertv8676 not really. I get his point.
NBA chases casual fans even knowing that it turns off die-hard fans. What happens when you catch the attention of the casual fans? They might watch for a while, but as they get closer to becoming real fans, they start to see the gimmicks. So the obvious problem is that the more someone watches NBA, the more frustrated they get and they stop watching. The NFL gives you an exciting game, but they don’t dumb it down. Football has a lot of moving parts and it takes time to understand the intricacies of it. It’s not a game for the casual fan to really understand. Yet it’s the one thing that in 2024 tens of millions of fans will sit in front of a television for over three hours to watch.
All sports suck now, gambling screwed them.
For $80 million / year, most people would be way early, take tickets and walk around the stands shaking fans hands before the game
It’s hypocritical for LeBron to be the one now, in the face of criticism, that commits to 82 games “if healthy,” but he’s the one that was the pioneer of the healthy scratch. He would sit out road games in small markets, often disappointing fans that payed to come and see him on what was scheduled to be his only regular season game in that market. I remember that happening in Memphis and Oklahoma City, I think, and I’m pretty sure that he sat out multiple games in Indianapolis over the years.
Exactly he is the poster boy and dan tryna use him as some tough honorable guy is hilarious and typical mainstream media lepropaganda!!
That's was the Spurs that started doing that
@@tigers7834 Pop started doing it as a team/coach’s decision. LeBron did it as a player’s/primadonna’s decision, and I’m pretty sure that LeBron did it first.
@@projoebiochemnope, popavich and the spurs started it. All your anger needs to go to Gregg Popavich.
@@sameenergy9414 nope
Last time i watched a full NBA game was when Toronto won the championship. Since then I've canceled my cable subscription. Only enjoyed basketball (was a fierce fan since the mid 80s) but now its not even on my radar.
Most young fans today don't really watch the game. They only watch the highlights. Even when they turn on the games, their eyes are mostly on their phones texting. They don't really pay attention to the game. So I don't know if all those commercials actually reach them because they are not even watching the game itself. This is why TBS would rather do college football than to overpay for the NBA. They know the real number and how much they actually make. Amazon is willing to overpay for the NBA package because they want to use it to get more people to sign on to their Prime package. Let see if it will work out the way Amazon want, otherwise they will lose money on the deal.
Why havent they turned their backs already? The quality of the game nosedived like 20 years ago.
Just like why there are so many more NFL injuries
The NFL got rid of real practice / training camp
NBA is following right along
I stopped watching the NBA, especially the regular season, a decade ago. And it has to do with a WHOLE LOT MORE than just load management.
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I've went to 1 NBA game in the past 10 years, Cavs vs Kings and I'm treated to Fox and Mitchell both resting. Yeah I'm never going back.
Damn
Will lead to their downfall? I think we’re there Dan. I haven’t watched the regular season in 5 years.
Welcome to the modern NBA. Players get paid ridiculous money to skip games, play awful basketball when they bother to show up, and then expect statues.
Would you get up if you had to play Utah, Charlotte or Washington? I can see if it is your few years in the NBA. The there teams are not even trying to win.
The NBA gets your implicit approval when you watch
@@boomshakalaka8567 I am keeping it real. You do not hear fans complaining when the star players for Utah and Charlotte are sitting out because are they are “tanking” to get a better draft pick.
@@therealdarrell282 Idk what this has to do with my reply to the OP
@@boomshakalaka8567 I am making a point that nobody has an issue when two bad NBA teams play each and sit out their best starters for draft purposes.
If I tell my boss I’m not working back to back days I won’t have a job
Yeah and you don't even have food in your table after that
I would change it to this:
1. NBA players gets a base salary, rest of the money is prorated on amount of minutes active in the game.
2. Bring back hand checking, or other rules to punish three point percentage.
Or how aboutt his, the owner saying " this is how much money you can get each season if you reach up to our expectations, that means if you're not hurt or sick you play and you play to win every game, then you will get this salary after every season"
Not giving them thier salaries before the job is done, you've just taking away thier motivation and reason because clearly nowdays the love and the passion for the alone isn't enough
The issue that I have with load management (other than the very concept, which is ridiculous) is that year after year the same players - Joel Embiid, Kawhi Leonard, Kristaps Porzingis, Paul George, Ben Simmons, Anthony Davis, etc. - are notoriously load managed, yet these same guys are on the shelf with injuries EVERY year.
Imagine spending your hard earned money on overpriced NBA tickets to watch your favorite player and team play only to be told he isn't playing due to load management. It's like paying to see your favorite singer in concert and they send out the background singer to perform instead.
I had one foot out the door after KD joined the warriors. Then in 2020 I was completely done for 2 seasons, but last season I started watching just the playoffs and holy cow the 3 pt attempts is crazy compared to just 6 years ago. Sad because I was a superfan from 1991-2016
That's why I still love college basketball 🏀 Those 18 to 20 year olds. Are going to play their hearts out. And the college b ball games is more competitive. Especially March Madness!
Basketball was my favorite sport growing up back I the 90s. 3 point shot destroyed the game of basketball. These guys are making too much money. That's the problem. You pay these guys per game you best to believe these superstars will play every game to get their money. I hate what the NBA stands for now. I stop watching basketball after the lakers I the 2000s. Kobe Bryant was the last old school nba star who played every game and took his job serious. I wouldn't pay a dollar to watch these nba players play.
Play 82 games to eliminate 10 teams is a scheme to steal money from the fans.
The regular season just doesn’t mean anything anymore.
Baseball regular season is insanely long but at least you eliminate 18 teams after that.
Already did, paid a bunch of money to go see a GSW game a couple years back and they sat all the starters, paid all that money to watch some bench players, not like they give you a heads up before you purchase your tickets 😂
To me it's hilarious fans defend the players who play barely more than half a season...missing many games despite being healthy as they are getting paid a million per game is ridiculous
2:49 Exactly
Get paid for the games you play is a great idea. The stars would get a baseline salary of say 25 mil a year but if they want big bucks they have to play. Players wouldn’t like it but they’d get over it. They’re not going to go somewhere else to play. Something has to change.
The players don't care about the regular season. The fans know the players don't care about the regular season, so they don't care about the regulars season. Give people 82 games to not care about your product and it will become their default setting.
The NBA needs to stay out of politics. Stop alienating potential customers. Doesnt matter who is in the WH, stay the hell out of politics.
Cut season to 60 games, no back to back, and reduce salary to match…
That won't work
That's never going to happen. The owners, the players and the NBA itself all make the kind of money Charles is talking about because there are 80+ regular season games on TV/streaming per team, and each playoff series is now 7 games instead of the old 5 games, and there are the play-in games for even a bit more TV license money.
they will never ever do that
@@stevenkraft8070they would need to earn less money
Players will still find reasons to not play some nights.
Players aren’t passionate about the game, that’s why they don’t see anything wrong with constantly sitting out.
Go direct your feelings towards the team. For years, the Miami Heat would prioritize health over the regular season.
Dennis Rodman went to Vegas during the playoffs and had to be dragged back to practice by MJ himself. Scottie Pippen refused to go back in a playoff game because Phil Jackson drew up the final play to use him as a decoy and for Kukoc to hit the game-winner. Michael Jordan would play 20 holes of golf before a game. Meanwhile, LeBron spends $1M/yr on his body. He perfectly optimizes his diet so he plays at his peak. He has a hyperbaric chamber in his house that helps him recover after games. So, I'm gonna ask you. How do you measure passion? The goal is to win an NBA title not any individual game.
@@boomshakalaka8567 Every team is different on how they deal with their star players. I could tell you Allen Iverson used to party hard, not go to practice and still drop 35.
@@therealdarrell282 Fantastic. But you missed the point there.
@@boomshakalaka8567 I used the analogy with AI because he was in the club versus Kobe and MJ who would be in that gym.
I stopped watching the NBA a few years ago. The prices of the tickets are just too much to watch big babies. Prices continue to go up and dumb people pay it! Eventually they’ll make 300 million a year while the middle class keeps getting screwed.
I agree. Pay athletes based on games played.
Both two many Three pointers and load mngt
Wilt played more than the 48 minutes in a more physical game.
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Yep I used to watch the NBA several games a week for decades but the last ten years have been awful the all star game is a joke none of the games are entertaining until the playoffs and even then weak the league is a joke and Bronny being drafted is a joke and laughable players are trash today
It’s too late to get the fans who have left back. Once someone decides to stop watching it’s too late. Then if that fan has already went an entire playoff cycle they are never coming back. Maybe later if their kids get into it. Or a team moves to the area they live in. Their only real move is to try and get young people who are not fans to get interested in the game. They have earned every bit of this situation.
Lebron saying he wanna play 82 games after he load managed his whole career is hilarious and dan patrick just tryna push propaganda is sad lebron is the reason load management became popular!
I’ve been a Jazz fan all my life (still am) but I live around 11 hours from SLC. Stockton was my fav player and my parents would surprise me with tickets to a Jazz game for Christmas or my birthday when I was little, we’d go every year and I would have been totally gutted if we drove all that way only for Stock to “have a rest day” People don’t realize how much money people spend to go to these games. Tickets, and a lot of times hotel, gas, food.
You're getting paid gazillions, but you only want to work half the time for it. BULLSHIT
It all boils down for the league stiffling the defenses allowed and not curbing the load management from the get-go
I tune in for the last month & post season - I still love watching the NBA.
I turned my back 5 years ago. Load management is just another reason to not watch anymore
The oversaturation of sports media is helping to destroy sports. They sensualize players, build them, and the tear them down. Shyt crazy
I been sayin that too.
Stop worshipping these players. They're the capital citizens in the Hunger Games.
Sensualize? Lol
I don’t think you know what sensualize means, buddy. 🤣
You meant “sensationalize” just btw
Can brick layers and iron workers claim they can't work back to back days...?
FOLKS LUV HOW CHARLES SAID WE DONT EVEN HAVE REAL JOBS. WE PLAY BASKETBALL, PREACH CHARLES 🙌 LAZY MFCKERS IN THE LEAGUE NOW FOLKS, THANK GOD I DONT LOOSE SLEEP TO WATCH THESE LAZY CLOWNS NOW AH DAYS
Can you go out there and play in the NBA?
It’s called pandering
It's not the players choice.its the organizations choice. Just like how Zach Edey couldn't play for team Canada he can't because it's the grizzlies choice. Gilbert Arenas said when the team decides u ain't playing your jersey ain't even in the locker. Organizations have done a great job skirting the blame and putting it completely on the player for this load management thing.
They are not made like the 80’s 90’s 00’s players….real men💪🏻
What? You know how many fans hated the NBA after MJ? It was called too hip hop. Let’s not act like the fans were celebrating the NBA over the Malace in the Palace. Stop romanticizing things.
A while ago when I was really young I was in Miami for spring break and my mom got me tickets to see the Heat play when Lebron was there, and right it was right before playoffs. I was so excited to see Lebron play but right before the game started I found out Lebron was “resting” for playoffs and this was when he was in his prime! Most of the players are like this now and it’s part of what’s killing the game.
I don't agree with Barkley most times, but he is spot on here. These players today are spoiled rotten with the money they make.
I passed on clipper season tickets at the new arena for that very reason. Not spending that much money for all the star players to sit out when I go to the games. I pretty much threw in the towel with nba basketball at this point. I was fortunate enough to see basketball from the 80s til now. Been a bulls fan the entire time. So I saw pre dance, 1st dance-the last dance in real time and it was so much fun. Never will be duplicated again. And that seem to be all people care to talk about now days are the 90s Bulls, because the current nba suck so bad. I never was a fan of baseball and football... but I'm starting to like watch MLB and NFL now. Probably will give NHL a try too. But pro basketball is complete turn off at this point.
Has Barkley been living under a rock? It's already started 🤦🏻♂️💀💀💀
Pay him only 50% if he’s only playing 50%
The way you solve this load management nonsense is reduce the number of games from 82 to 58. 29 opponents. Each team plays every team twice 1 home and 1 away. Get rid of divisions and conferences. The top 14 teams make the playoffs instead of 16 with the top two getting first round byes. Two less teams make the playoffs and there’s just 58 games making each game more important! As far as the three point shot goes, turn the hoop into a double rim. Everyone knows that a double rim is much more difficult to shoot on. These simple changes will make a big difference.
I love the NBA, but I can’t disagree with what Chuck is saying. I think load management is more about keeping guys fresh for the playoffs than players just being lazy, but ultimately it makes the regular season feel pointless. Lots of DNPs, lots of blowouts.
Where was the collective outrage when pop was doing this ? He used to rest those guys for key games not care and take the fine . And what did he say “ we prolonged these guys careers”
We stopped watching when players started kneeling and stopped playing.
Rule change....get rid of 3pts. 2pts scoring in the key zone, 1pt from outside the key. Watch the defense tighten up trying to stop the big boyz drive it to the hoop.
I still pay attention to the NBA but i don't watch the games as much as I use to. I also didn't get league pass this year.
I went to a Clippers game last season and Kawhi actually played. Blew my mind. It was dope though because that’s who my daughter wanted to see.
3:10 you shouldn’t have to do anything besides telling these players to man up and do their jobs. Media is so afraid to hurt these players feelings, that they stand by, smiling and nodding when an nba player complains about their pay, or how the nba expects too much from them. Stop coddling these grown men, and the game will fix itself.
It’s like baseball…all walks, strikeouts and home runs. Pitch clock helped slightly. NBA? Bring back physicality, hand checking, etc. get rid of the rules about 3 seconds on defense, the spread court, etc. maybe push the 3’s a couple of feet back….or, dump it altogether
Maybe delete the 3pts entirely
If we got back to the 80s, teams were worth like 40 million. Now it's a billion plus. Chuck was getting big money, then. He'd be getting like 40 million with inflation, probably 90 million with today's money. I'm all for players getting the money. They are the product. Contracts should reflect the work they put in and the massive profit the league makes. Problem is, the rich have made so much obscene cash, they're building multi billion dollar stadiums, paying billions for teams, they of course offset expense with charging fans a ton more. We've been getting priced out for years and years. The invention of PSLs changed things for the worse. The weight is unsustainable.
When i was a kid i used to loom forward to watching the nba on the nightly bases , not only my team but different teams
Now ; i either A watch my own team only
B : xmas day games
Or c playoffs only .
Just quit paying em for not playing. This will all change
Chuck ain't wrong. The NBA is making it real easy. I'd turn to the NFL, but they are about to prove a lot of people right with it being "scripted". NHL goes hard. My town has an NAHL team, fun games.
I stopped watching basketball as much as I use too when LeBron went to my Lakers , he trade all players , gets rid of coaches ,always crying and now has his son on the team , players have to much power with to much money and owners bend the knee and now ppl like me and many more don't watch basketball as much because of the flopping and load managing
I could listen to Barkley talk all day
I don't know why anybody surprised about this team this is the team that told you for years that they was going to suck just to draft a hard quality player like Joe embid
I watch the NBL a competition in Australia sure it isn't NBA level but you get to see the star players play only time they don't is when there injured
The three pointer is okay but watching them miss tons is beyond gay. I miss the 80s and 90s where they dunk and its high percentage going in.
It's bad and the woke bs gay woke players being pushed too. Wtf. Pause at this era.