Gerald McCoy Says Which QB’s are and are NOT "Elite" in NFC/AFC Title Games | The Rich Eisen Show
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This dude hates the Niners anyways why should we worry bout his words 🤣
He literally picked them to win the superbowl
Gerald McCoy would’ve killed for Brock purdy or Jared goff to be his quarterback in his playing days lmao. Guy didn’t play with one good let alone elite quarterback his whole career
Was thinking the same 😂
The Deebo- Brock NECESSARY connection is highly questionable. The small sample size, 5 games and other factors in those five games: concussion, weather, bad games from everyone are normal, ...etc. Plus the fact that the Niners won the fifth game with a final drive, and the Niners lost the first game because they missed a very makeable field goal after driving into field goal range.
Deebo already back at practice lol! He probably got a stinger and he be 💯 percent game time
Not only that but that 3 game losing streak also had to do with Trent Williams being out. That was bigger loss imo. Purdy won 3 games last year without Deebo and still average over 30 pts per game
Mahomes is the only Elite quarterback so they can stop with the elite nonsense!
There's only 1 elite quarterback in the playoffs right now and that's Mahomes
No one else has won a title and only Goff has gotten to the Super Bowl before.
You're not elite until you win it all. And honestly you're not actually elite until you can do it multiple times.
If Goff gets back to the Super Bowl it means he's gotten there twice. It would go Mahomes, then Goff, then the other guys.
In my opinion you're not elite until you prove it and none of these guys outside of Mahomes have proved anything yet. Goff is the closest but he's not there. And I'm not gonna sit here and act like Jackson is there yet either because he beat the Texans... Thata not even close enough to call you elite.
I don't know about that. Dan Marino was elite but he never won a Superbowl. Warren Moon never won a Superbowl as a player he is elite for sure. It is hard to get to the Superbowl let alone win one.
Seems like a lot of people are overlooking how young a player Brock is. He is only going to get better over the next few seasons I would think. I remember early in the year how Green Bay fans were all in a panic about Jordon Love and I was figuring just be patient he will be a solid QB for them. I'm a Lions fan stats don't matter leadership and winning games does. Brock has what matters quit hating on their QB he has done what he was supposed to do so far. Jared has done the same for us. This game should be really good.
Honestly, in general, I don't think that's the issue at all. The crux of the issue is that most fans think Brock Purdy is 'Good' and better than Jimmy G, but not 'Elite'. And 49ers fans get hyper defensive about that and list a bunch of stats, before declaring that others must not watch games. Then, we watch Purdy against Baltimore and the man should have honestly thrown 7 picks. Then, we watch him against Green Bay and he should have thrown 4. I mean, we're not talking one bad throw in the game. Most QBs will have that. We're talking 4, 5, 6, 7 passes, that one could argue, should have been picked. Then, 9ers fans play the victim and feel that Purdy is being held to an unfair standard for someone in their second season. Because they want him to have the title of being an 'Elite' QB, without the pressure and scrutiny that comes with it. Without holding him to that standard. Everyone for the most part agrees that he's a good young QB, who happens to be in the best situation for a QB in the league. And there's nothing wrong with that, but that's just not enough for Purdy fans and Niners fans.
That is a reasonable take on it.
@@segagenesis7708 This is not the crux of it. Maybe recently there's been some discussion around it, but the issue that Niner fans have had even going back to last year is that Brock Purdy is simply not getting the respect he deserves and is being discredited so much for his accomplishments. "They have so many weapons, anyone can QB that team". I know you've heard that one. Does that sound like people saying Purdy is good? Or, "If Purdy was on Carolina, he would not do as well", which obviously applies to almost every QB but they don't say about any other QB, just Purdy. How about "He's just a dink and dunk QB", "All his yards come from YAC", which are just incorrect statements and easily disproven with stats. All season long people were saying "let's see how he does without all his weapons and has to play from behind". After the win against GB, the narrative is "But he played so bad until that last drive and should have been picked twice". Does any other QB get knocked for "shoulda been" picks as much as Purdy? Every QB has some. So of course there's a double standard here. If the discussion was just whether Purdy is Good vs Elite, the debates would not be so contentious.
As a bears fan Rex Grossman made 4 NFC championships and a Super Bowl. Not saying Brock Purdy is Rex Grossman, nobody in the NFL is as bad as sexy rexy, and Brock isn’t anywhere near as bad as Rex. However, he’s no where near elite. Brock manages the game well, he can win you games, and possibly win a SuperBowl, I don’t think they will this yr I think the winner of the AFC will beat SF in the SB, but elite is reserved for like 2-4guys. Mahomes, Lamar, and possibly Burrow and Allen.
Manages the game?? I'm tired of you casuals that clearly don't watch him play with ur lazy takes. He LEADS THE NFL IN DEEP PASSING. He lead all qbs in almost every qb stat. He keeps plays alive until someone gets open, makes tight window layered throws with anticipation and drops 45 yard dots. In what world is that not basically elite. He's the best qb in the nfc and outplayed every qb in the afc this year too
@@SoloDoloToker Why is it that when fan make the 'You don't watch the games' claim, the FIRST thing they do is go to STATS? And he didn't outplay Lamar and the 49ers went 1-3 against the division that the Ravens won.
It’s funny if Brock wins a Super Bowl and deeboo is there. They will say deeboo was there
Being elite is subjective depending on your personal criteria. It doesn't matter whether you are elite or a game manager, just win baby!
In the media today, the word "elite" refers to a QB who can run AND, in their eyes, if you can't run you are not elite. Brock Purdy is a more accurate passer than Josh Allen , Lamar Jackson & CJ Stroud (look at the stats). But because Purdy is not likely to take off for a 60 yard run, does that mean he is not elite? I don't think so.
@@nanoRatalso arm strength. He doesn't have a rocket arm
Sometimes a game manager is all you need in playoff games. I believe QB needs to be graded on a curve for playoffs. Cause not every QB can play against nothing to lose defenses in these situations. In my opinion, regular season QB completion rates are like above 80, but playoffs going to be subpar 60 to 70. A level of difficulty QB should be measured. Also a wining team in the reg, are not the same in playoffs. Their either better or worst.
There are 4 elite QBs in the NFL: Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, and Lamar Jackson
But Purdy is young Brady reincarnated. He is the 6th best QB in my opinion. Brock is only in his second year. Josh was not elite until his 3rd year in the NFL.
There are two main types of QBs: Elite QBs and Franchise QBs
Purdy is, along with Stafford (my 5th ranked QB), the best Franchise QB in the NFL.
You can win a SB with a Franchise QB, but your organization has to surround you with higher quality talent, which makes it harder to sustain long-term success. Goff and Purdy are high-end franchise QBs. Lamar and Mahomes are elite QBs.
Nothing but love and respect for GK-- Gerald McCoy! He went to HS with my daughter--all 5'2" 100 lbs. of her and was her "protector" of sorts--always a friend, always respectful, funny and wicked smart (as they say). I am only disappointed that the injuries kept him from having his full impact on the field with my beloved Raiders late in his career. Absolutely great guest too, and I hope he makes many more appearances.
Deebo connection narrative not true. Last year he was 3-0 without Deebo. This year, the games without Deebo just happen to be games where Trent Williams was also out. Missing Trent is the bigger issue. It turns the Niner Oline into bottom of the barrel, this truly effecting Purdy, which makes total sense. Purdy can definitely win without Deebo, he’s done it. Missing Trent on that terrible Oline is a different story. Check your facts.
Rich never played fighting games. Dude is a boomer. And Rich is out of the 49ers club house
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I don't agree with the Deebo connection - Brock won three games in his first year without Deebo. The three games they lost this year when Deebo was out, they also didn't have Trent Williams and Christian McCaffrey wasn't there either. Brock also got concussed against the Vikings, but people don't consider that. Again, against the Browns, he drove them into winning field goal range, but Moody missed the kick. I have a good feeling about this game against the Lions. The Niners should be fine.
Jared Goff is a dangerous man, especially in this system. Purdy is also very underrated. Its going to be a great game.
Ravens are taking it all though.
Would LOVE for the Niners to get a 2nd crack at Baltimore. I think this SF team plays well as the underdog
Ain’t this the dude was playing for panthers tal’m bout “all Dey dis and all Dey dat we want all da smoke” next thing yk niners pull out the smoke machine
Purdy is Drew Brees reincarnated. Watch. Just give him some time.
I’d rather have a good Super Bowl-winning QB over an elite qb who can’t get over the hump
Purdy needs some more seasons under his belt, no doubt. But for anyone to argue that Purdy isn't an elite QB is just delusional nonsense.
Purdy being compared to his peers (ELITE) is taboo….
Mahomes
Lamar
Burrow
Josh Allen
Same dumb🫏🫏🫏 be like Mahomes is creeping up on the GOAT 😳😳 Leap frogging……
Brady
Montana
Manning
Brees
Elway
Eli (The Goat Slayer lol) Made Brady play 10 extra years
This is clowning🤡
I'm a 9er fan and I don't believe either QB in the NFC game is elite. They are both very good, but they aren't on that elite level.
Gerald McClown. Purdy = Elite
Deebo + Trent out is a problem. Just Deebo out is not as big a deal as everyone is making it.
Gerald mccoy needs to be deleted. This dude is beyond bad
So sick of all these haters
Deebos playing
What QB won 14 games for 2 different teams? Or, just go with what McVay tells you
Neither NFC QB is elite but they both can make Elite throws during any game...game film proves it. Mahomes is elite.....Lamar is almost there.
Thats a good way of putting it I guess but not only can brock make elite throws he processes at an elite level. The speed he goes through progressions and he's elite at throwing with anticipation. Hes also pretty mobile. He's def above Goff
The only elite QB is Mahomes- the rest are unproven
Take out WR1 and which QB winning percentage won’t go down?
Lamar. Heck, Lamar has missed Mark Andrews for six games and the offense has still averaged 32.8 PPG in those six starts.
I’m amazed that no one called Aikman a system and he had all the weapons
Everyone considers Aikman a product of a great team there was 7 Hall of Famers on offense. Brock is another Aikman which Don't see as a bad thing.
Aikman 3 and 0 in SB
I love the "elite" category to describe super-talented QBs that can't win it all 🤣
I love Brock, but I'm okay with saying he isn't elite. _YET._ He's already borderline, given that he plays with truly elite efficiency when he's at his best. (And he often is). The only question is, can he play his best against the best competition? That's still unproven, at least in the playoffs. But I haven't seen much to make me think he can't.
I don't blame Gerald on his BP13 take he prolly just started watching 49er football.
I thought Rich might have been above hot take nonsense for clicks but guess not.
I don’t believe some people watch the actual games/tape
No I’m a fan I overstand Gerald but I don’t care if you pick my team or not.
49ERS WILL SHOW UP!!! I AGREE WITH GERALD!!!
Gerald McCoy is an excellent guest. Please bring him back as much as possible.
Yes. You heard him correctly. He used the word “elite”.
Lions edge Rush is pretty good
People acting like any offense is just as good with a backup wr in for a starter
Lamar Jackson is throwing to a rookie Zay, an oft-injured OBJ, Bateman and Agholor at WR. He's missed Andrews for six starts and the offense averaged 32.8 PPG in those six starts.
I'd take chiefs defense over ravens.
You need rehab
if Purdy success depends on Deebo then it proves that its not Purdy. its the system.
It's not about Deebo. The losses had more to do with Trent Williams being out. 22nd ranked oline w/ Trent Williams
Last year, when Purdy was a rookie, he won games without Deebo. This year, now that teams have more tape on him, it seems to be an issue.
@@segagenesis7708 the issue this year wasn't Deebo. It was Trent being out during those games. 22nd ranked oline with Trent, you can imagine what it is without Trent
Purdy is Jimmy G all over again@@segagenesis7708
Purdy makes 900k a year and led the nfl in 20+ 30+ 40+ yard throws aka LED the nfl in deep passing, passer rating, ypa, airypa, TD%, Cmp%, 1st down %, 3rd in TDs, 5th in yards, 4th in air yards, has the 26th ranked pass blocking line and was only 20th in pass attempts. In what world is that not basically elite.
Purdy led the league in having the most interceptions against the Baltimore Ravens in 2023!
I love it that the Lions are still being underrated and disrespected. Lions SB champion
Not if they play the Ravens again...
The way he dismissed the final drive 💀 clown 🤡
The reality is, even if Purdy won the Superbowl, many wouldn't say he's elite. Until people see him in a different system with a lesser coach and lesser weapons, he'll never get full credit.
He will be seen as a Game Manager. That's just how its gonna be when youre surrounded with that much talent.
Baltimore vs Detroit rematch!
Average players no what average players look like I guess
*know
In the media today, the word "elite" refers to a QB who can run AND, in their eyes, if you can't run you are not elite. Brock Purdy is a more accurate passer than Josh Allen , Lamar Jackson & CJ Stroud (look at the stats). But because Purdy is not likely to take off for a 60 yard run, does that mean he is not elite? I don't think so.
No he's not elite. That Christmas game showed his true colors
@@RickyBrittAnybody can have a bad game. Don't act like Lamar never threw 4 picks in a game.
@RickyBritt 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 3 tipped passes that happened to go right into defenders hands and 1 actual int on brock. Every qb has tipped passes every game but they're usually lucky enough for them to just fall to the ground
@@RickyBritt Yall gonna fight back or nah?😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
Black people feel pressured to root for Lamar for some reason. I find him dull and antisocial. Why not root for Patrick?
Bullshit