John Mayer's Overdrive Pedal History - The Complete Guide
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2021
- Ever wanted to know every Overdrive Pedal John has used in his career? Well in today's episode I'm going to go over every OD pedal he has used starting during Room For Squares in 2001 all the way up until present day!
New videos every Saturday!
Time Stamps:
00:22 - Room For Squares & Any Give Thursday
01:25 - Heavier Things
01:46 - JM3
02:22 - Continuum & WTLI
04:34 - Battle Studies
05:02 - Born and Raised & Paradise Valley
05:42 - The Search For Everything
06:25 - Interesting Bit About The Dead & Company
07:00 - The 2019 World Tour
08:04 - Some Honourable Mentions & Conclusion
Great vid! I'm still hoping one day he does a gear documentary and shatters the internet
Thanks bro! Me too, how amazing would that be!!
Good work! I like the way you speak on behalf of the Mayer fans when you say ‘we’ and such phrases as ‘we can’t prove’ and ‘we have no evidence ‘. John knows he’s under investigation.
I try and state from a collective knowledge base as a whole! A lot of my friends have helped put together this knowledge over the years and I’m just one small part helping get it out there!
These are awesome videos - great content and the perfect length! Thank you for creating this channel!
Thank you Brian!!!
Appreciate all the research done for all these videos 🤘
Cheers Walter!!
This is becoming my favourite youtube channel ahah, keep up the good work! 🤗
Thank you!!!
Great educational video! Please keep uploading new videos!
Thanks Zhang!!!
Awesome video bro. Subscribed!
Hey Justin - great info provided. Subscribed!
Glad you are finding my channel informative! Cheers dude 🙏🏻😎
Putting an eq section with sliders in an overdrive is a cool concept tbh
really professional & interesting video! I like the good quality of your vids :) A little guitar playing would be great tho :D
Thanks Mick, I’ve mentioned this a few times but that will come once I get a proper recording setup and my Two Rock in the nearish future!
@@JustinJeske I‘m hyped :D
Great video, the only thing i saw missing was his cornish duplex from the rack days. I believe it was an ss2/g2 duplex from pictures of his rack on the gear page taken from a Japanese magazine
I wish John Mayer would try the Snouse Blackbox 2. I'm willing to bet he replaced the BluesBreaker with the Klon due to headroom, and I can guarantee that running the Blackbox 2 on 18 volts (which it can take!) with the boost and presence knobs added to the mix would work extremely well for his tones.
Yeah the Snouse is the dream solution to the issues the original has!
@@JustinJeske I own the Black Box classic which is basically just the original. Favorite pedal, but I'm on the waitlist for the 2 pro stage mod because I really want to have extra versatility.
Around the time after Continuum was released, a forum post surfaced from John where he did some sort of gear interview commentary... It seems I remember that commentary was given somewhere around the Heavier Things era, as John mentions the Full Drive, the Bluesbreaker, but also sang high praises of the Voodoo Labs Sparkle Drive...
It was quite interesting because he kinda takes a dump on the whole gear/tone chasing pedal obsession thing. I'll see if I was able to find the actual text and will post a link in another comment, as it's too lengthy to copy-paste in full.
"Stevie Ray used so much less distortion than you can possibly imagine. He was loud, and the way it hit the tape (and your ear) made that sound. I use a vintage 808, which has some properties that I like, but it is by no means the holy grail of tone. It has it’s place, though. Everything does. Just remember that turning that “cheat” knob too high also cheats you of the natural tonal characteristics of your guitar. Do work that volume knob, though.
So what if you don’t have the 600 bucks for an 808? Don’t even worry about it. There are so many pedals designed to emulate it, it’s not even funny. Purists want the original 808 because of some fairly esoteric microchip differences. The Voodoo Labs Sparkle Drive is somewhat close, (and dirt cheap!) but it can also have a really harsh high end. (What’s in a name, right?) I think the Fulltone Fulldrive 2 is a FANTASTIC update on the 808. The Keeley-modded TS-808 reissue is very close to an 808. These pedals are what I call “paint chip” close. If you didn’t have an original 808 to A/B with, you wouldn’t know what you were missing. If you’re looking for a good “edgey” tone, check out the Marshall Bluesbreaker pedal from the early ‘90s. Not the BB-2 (bad), but the original. It’s a great beefy sound that colors strat pickups in a really interesting way. The tone knob is like a “B.B.” dial. If you feel like your guitar just won’t cut it in the mix with your band, but you don’t necessarily want more overdrive, check out the Fulltone Fat-Boost, or the Keeley Katana. Kick it on for a solo, and it’s like having your own personal mixing engineer ride your fader. I use a Keeley-modded Boss BD-2 pedal as well. It’s got it’s own thing going on, and I like it. So many pedals are cool, and most every one has a place for something. It’s fun to listen to a pedal and then play to it’s strengths.
Oh, here’s another misconception: True bypass is all-around better than buffered (regular) bypass"
Yeah I am well aware of this post. Quoted it on one of my recent videos actually. This was on his own forum back in the day that he posted it on. Kinda cool to see his thoughts on the whole tone quest and certain pieces of gear!
Justin, any info on John's use of the TS-9?
Any idea what mode John used on his TS9DX back in the Any Given Thursday era? I’d love more videos like this on his other effects like reverbs, delays, modulation etc.
I have never played a TS9DX so I can't say for sure! Stay tuned for my next video cause you might enjoy it then!
Just managed to get my self a zendrive 2! Super chuffed 😊
Congrats man!! What are your thoughts on it so far?
@@JustinJeske when it arrives I’ll let you know😂, I’m impatiently waiting here in Wales for it to come from US.
Hopefully sooner than later!!
@@JustinJeske and its finally here 😂. Also just got a katana V1 script! The geek in me is so happy!!
I’m sure you’re gonna love it!!!
hey Justin, i love your inputs regarding JMs Gear! i also love reading your inputs on JM Gear FB Page. I am still pretty confused though, when does JM use the different overdrives? like in which instance, let´s say in Belief, does he use the TS10 for it? and for the solo, how does he boost the drive? in which particular order? or let´s say, when does he specifically use the Centaur? thanks a lot!
Hey Justin (great name by the way 😎), this is somewhat hard to describe in a RUclips comment, but generally the TS10 is the main overdrive sound. For most solo's he stacks the Klon/Blues Breaker into the TS10 as the main lead tone, especially bigger outro ones for example. The TS10 is used on its own for lighter solos. The Blues Breaker and Centaur serve different purposes on their own in the different eras. Lighter overdriven/more than the base sounds is the jyst. Think the harmony parts on Slow Dancing during the intro, that is usually Centaur but also has been the Katana. I'm going to be doing a lot more videos on this on the channel to fully discuss this all in detail but if you have any specific questions feel free to message me on Instagram!
@@JustinJeske great name you have as well 😉 thanks so much for the answer, i am at least at ease now how to tweak the stuff that i have. there are a few Pedals that I like to ditch to have a closer sound with JMs. eg. my TS is Ibanez JD9, which i think is nowhere as near as TS10 🤣 i did all the tweaking and it's really difficult. As for the Bluesbreaker, i have a Protein and it's Blue side, i hope the green one would at least get a little Centaur sound out of it as it os based from a Nobles. But all things aside, at least i now somehow have an idea on how he uses the Drives.
And yes, an extensive Video about this would be great! Looking forward to it! Keep safe, man! 😊
when you mentioned the jhs bonsai, and the instagram live he used it on, what instagram live were you referring to?
Blackstone Appliances Overdrive 👌👌
I had a stock boss bd2, what's the difference between it and the keeley moded one?
The pedal you were referring to at 1:09 is actually a Menatone Ms. Foxy Brown
The Zendrive 2 is great!
My favourite Dumble Overdrive!
What's is your thought on the cornerstone antique in comparison to the mayer ts usage? Is it more beneficial to just get a ts 10, or does the cor ertstone add something if you are not playing two rocks etc. 🤔 might give the guys with every day use amps more of a chance?
The guys at Cornerstone make amazing products. Emilio is a great dude with an insane attention to detail. The Antique might have some more thought in terms of it’s overall EQ. I haven’t played one… yet… so I can’t totally comment on it’s difference to the TS10.
@@JustinJeske very fair comment thank you for your quick response! I know ariel posen uses it and that's good recommendation. I was just wondering if it was trying to capture just the ts sound or the ts in to klon sound. Anyway, regardless, seems I will have to put both on the list 🤣👍👍
Damn it seems me and John Mayer share the same taste in drive pedals lol. No surprise though since they are the top choice of their respective. The flux five with a good tube blues amp is nice.
I was blown away with how good the Flux5 is!
Would a JHS bonsai be a good alternative to a ts10 or ts808 keeley mod seems like
Both of those are difficult to find
Whelp answered at the end 😂
Been trying the WTLI tone for weeks, only way to get that creamy solo for Gravity and Slow Dancing was stacking 2 tube screamers (mini spark + mini ts + ts9). I got pretty close! Have you tried anything similar? Also, having place the ts9 before my bluesbreaker gave me something very close to the Belief intro and solo. Also, combining ts9+soul food was way better than soul food and ts9, I don't know, its the opposite than JM uses but gave me a very similar tone, and the other way around got me a very different sound. Cheers!
Im inclining to keep my board in this order: mini spark > mini ts > ts9 > BB > BD2 (trio)
Also, ive seen and old picture of John using the BB after the TS808 in one of his live rigs in JOHNMAYERRIG instagram channel, so that makes sense!
Would very much appreciate you comments on that! Tks! =)
Hey Marcelo! I haven't tried the 2 Tube Screamers like that, I know John has very briefly experimented with 2 TS10's, but whatever works for your rig! I do however think that in terms of your comment on ordering, the Tube Screamer last gives you that mid hump and classic TS sound we know with JM. Having the Blues Breaker or BB-2 after it can give great tones but would, from purely a tone perspective, be a bit of a departure from that specific sound. I would not recommend having the BD-2 after the Tube Screamer personally. I know John was experimenting with the placement of the Blues Breaker when that and the Klon were both on his board in like 2008/09 but that was for only a few shows. Hope that helps!
@@JustinJeske thank you so much!!
Are there any other pictures of the 'Black' Klon? If not I recon it's the regular silver one. Not Black and not Ceriatone! 7.39 if you want to check.
Yes there are plenty of pictures of it from the 2019 Tour and 2020 Dead & Co. It’s black no question about it
Worth mentioning that the Boss BD2 was a Keeley modded version, not a stock one.
2:01 lol
No mention of the Pete Cornish NG-2? Is fuzz not considered overdrive in your book?
Fuzz for most people is a totally separate category of effect! I wouldn’t throw an NG-2 in the same category as like a Klon. Just two totally separate effects really
@@JustinJeske Fuzz, Overdrive, they’re just different intensities of the same effect, distortion. Making a distinction between them just becomes pointless when a fuzz on the lowest gain could be an overdrive and an overdrive on the highest gain could be considered fuzz.
Well yes, but there still is classification of them. It’s why the NG-2, the OctaFuzz (key word fuzz), etc, is called a Fuzz. It’s why the Tube Screamer is called an Overdrive. It’s still incredibly easy to actually separate the characteristics of Fuzz and Overdrive for the most part. I have never plugged my NG-2 and thought “oh yeah this is a great overdrive sound”.
There are a handful of pedals that do a wide range of the spectrum, Broadcast AP for one, where it can do cleanish boost all the way into some fuzz-like tones. But that’s besides the point with this video here.
@@JustinJeske You’re right but I still feel like it should’ve been included in the video since it’s a quite important pedal in JM’s arsenal and it would be pointless to make a seperate 30 second video detailing John’s history of fuzz pedals.
I guess I just feel like it would’ve been smart to include all of John’s distortion instead of just the overdrive pedals.
I had a tube screamer, what other drive can I add to the pedalboard?
If you have a TS any of these will work but depends on the Era you want:
JM3: Keeley BD-2
Continuum: Marshall Blues Breaker
Pretty much from 2010 to present day: Klon
Doesn’t have to be the exact pedal obviously, good clones will more than work!
@@JustinJeske thank you I’m thinking of adding the mxr sugar drive!
How does he use the flux five? Any alternatives?
It's just his 3rd overdrive to stack on top of the TS and Klon. He's used a lot of different pedals over the years in that spot! The Flux is brilliant though
here is some list(kind of):
2001 room of square:
ts9dx fulldrive2 kot-v2
2002 any:
ts9dx menatone red snapper
2003 tour:
mbb fulldrive2 ts808
2005 trio:
katana bd2 ts808
2006 continuum:
?
2007 1st march:
ts10 bd2 katana
2008 wtli:
?
2009 battle:
klon ts10 mbb
2012~2014 born and raised paradise valley:
ts808/ts10 klon katana
2017 search:
klon ts10
camel toe/dumbloid twin/......
mesa boogie flex five
2019 tour:
zendrive/blackstone/smoky signal tubeless/
solo dallas storm/
I'd love to see John getting his overdrive from a channel switching amp like a Mesa/Boogie. Probably won't happen, but I think it'd be a nice change for him.
Honorable mention for the M13?? 😅
How about his pete cornish ss-2/3?
Yeah he had a Cornish Dueplex (SS-2 / G-2) in the rack around 2008 a little, and it was also used during the 2017 Tour, then it was swapped out with others like the small box Cornish G-2 and the JHS Charlie Brown V4. Those were the "other ones" I mentioned at 6:15 I didn't list. It wasn't a major one so it never made the cut!
Justin Jeske thanks for the reply and the info! Keep up the content you put out. More power to you!
alos his finger making the tone
Where is the John Frusciante video 😢😢
The tone is in the fingers. ....
Can you please talk about John frusciante again
When the new album and tour comes. Until then there is nothing really new to talk about.
@@JustinJeske By the way what happened to your other RUclips channel
I only have ever had 2! I have this one and the one I host a podcast on.
What's the podcast?
It’s with my friends and for JM group I’m apart of so you probably wouldn’t be interested lol.
Hey Justin, do you have an email that I can ask you a few questions????
Through my Instagram is the best way @JustinGuitarist !
Metal Zone.
You can also see John using the king of tone when he did a duet with Barbra Streisand.
Yes I said that in the video!
@@JustinJeske oh crap bro I’m sorry you did lol. Watch till the end George lol.
Haha yeah I decided to add it as an honourable mention cause it wasn’t a major thing in the timeline!
He didn’t use the FullDrive 2 MOSFET edition as that didn’t come out until years after 2001. It was a standard white knob FD2 non mosfet.
Come on man, if you’re going to dump all this money and effort into apparently being a fanboy you’ve got to get the details right.
You’re absolutely right it was a standard one he used at that time.
However, I suggest not using one small mistake within a 10 minute timeline in my 3rd ever video 2 years ago as an indicator of my ability to get the details right or level of my “apparent” fanboyness.
BB into TS or TS into BB ????