Are you making this mistake with Distortion & Overdrive pedals?
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- A common question I get quite often is "How should I set my pedal controls" in order to achieve a desired sound. Sometimes I also get messages or emails where a viewer has watched a youtube video, tried the same settings on their rig and had less than optimal results. In this video I'll dig into why this is, the simple solutions to fix it, and why suggested settings in a manual aren't actually all that helpful.
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It's almost like Brian is suggesting we use our ears and move the tone knob(s) to get the sounds we want instead of inundating the Wampler support folks with emails. It's a bold strategy, Cotton. ;)
@Pedro Kantor, the Crimson power Fister I've been doing it wrong all along! I sound like me instead of YT videos! Pull my "guitar-guy" card immediately!
@Pedro Kantor, the Crimson power Fister yes, but they are suggestions of where to start and if you have no idea those settings will help you get going so you can play right away and have fun. When you have experience then you play around.... cheers.
He's right! LISTEN!
Ha! Yes use your brain/earz
You're talking nonsense everybody knows there is only one good setting: everything on max.
I hear everything you're saying in this video, but where exactly do I set my gain, volume, tone cut, bass, treble, mid shift, mids, and presence controls on my 1993 chinese-clone-of-a-soviet-knockoff-amp-in-a-box pedal to get the tone at the beginning of the 1971 bootleg live led zeppelin cassette I have? For reference I'm playing the billie eilish electric ukelele into a danelectro honeytone. unsure if pedal is true bypass.
Obviously the place to start would be vol 10, bass 10, mid 0, mid shift 0, treble 10, presence 10, and tone cut to taste. That’s what I use with my Metal Zone into Crate and my mom says it sounds good.
If I was in your situation "IF" I would get a Danelectro Bacon 'n' Eggs for a pre amp ,amp. Google says you can git one from Walmart. they're real nice ; ) P.S. the hissing noise is how it lets you know it's working .
This gave me a good chuckle, thanks!
Play it through a Line 6 amp, of course!
@@TelesPlayMetal With all due respect to your Mum, that's Nonsense! Obviously you just turn everything to 10 and snap the knobs off. Don't you know anything about tone?!? (Lol!)
This video just confirms why I love the Blues Driver so much. Truly one of the best overdrive pedals ever. Yes, it’s bright. Just turn the tone knob down, don’t be scared. Tweak with thine ears, not thine eyes.
Doesn't go out of my board for almost 20 years!
i bought one when i was 12 because billie joe armstrong uses it. i’m 19 and haven’t stopped using it
My go-to when dialing in pedals and amps is a looper pedal. Play some chords and single notes and just let it play back while I tweak knobs. Easy.
I have a Donner mini looper that gets used for that and troubleshooting, nothing else.
Wow
Jeez. Can't believe I've never thought of doing this...
Thanks for the tip.
I always thought the Blues Driver had a surprising amount of gain for an overdrive pedal. When you're were jamming on that Dokken riff with that pedal, that's what really made my ears perk up!
Those "suggested" settings helped me get into sounds though, when I bought my first pedals and had no clue about anything. I like to see them as invitations to play around and from there, your ears will take you on a journey. Great vid as usual!
Good point
I think the key with suggested settings is to not treat them as gospel truth. That deviating is 'bad' somehow.
@@Ruefus The key word here is 'suggested'! Seems many don't know what it means!
@@wampler_pedals
Dear Mr. Brian Wampler
I am a Man living in a 3rd World Country. I wrote this to personally thank you for your amazing circuit designs and tone of your pedals. I am a poor man and I love playing guitar. Your pedals are too expensive for me, I cannot afford one and its not available in my area and region. So I bought a Circuit Clone of one of your Pinnacle Standard Pedals under a different brand name. I am amazed at the tone, features and controls of this pedal. I played Guitar at my work place and my co workers are amazed at the tone. The Real Pinnacle Standard you make must be really good, judging by, even the circuit clone are so good. Now I know why its called the Pinnacle ...... Hope you forgive us for buying Clones of your pedals. Many People of poor countries all over the world cannot afford your pedals, but they love the the tone and features of your Pedals. I am currently saving up to buy the Real Pinnacle Standard or the Deluxe Pinnacle. Compared to the real thing, My Clone Pedal is like Inexpensive Fast Food, The Real Pinnacle must be like Exquisite Fine Dining. Thank you again for your amazing designs, those pedals must be a labor of love for you. Thank you.
"The amount of emails I get" sounded like "The amount of females I get"
I made the same observation. =)
Absolutely did, I was confused for a second
Same.
If only he could create a pedal that DID control Females Tone!!! He could sell them at KLON or even higher prices. 😂
None?
Everyone who thinks, that Boss Distortions sound bad, might have turned the tone knob and the ammount of distortion way too high, as I did, when I was 14. Set the amp clean right before it starts to break up and roll the tone in from dark to high with gain at 9 o clock. I think, that‘s a very good start for a great dirt sound 🤟😎 Great Video again!
Boss Mega Distortion prices skyrocketing in 3...2...1...
I think the idea was to showcase a cheaper and less commonly used pedal. however those tones could even drive metalzone prices up.
... probably not though
I actually always dug the tone of that pedal anyway.
I already have mine 😜😄
@@Tomislav_B. now is your chance to cash in! 😂
Brian, this frequency response analysis might be my second favorite thing there is on the internet right now.
Love the use of the pink noise through the DAW into the analyzer for visual representation. Would love to see a video on the way the EQ works on various Wampler offerings, but specifically the PlexiDrive Deluxe and anything else with the three band. Tying this into the dramatic effect thiscan have on gain settings might be cool as well. Keep it up Brian!
Just wanted to say, I'm super enjoying the comparisons using the Spectrum Analyzer....and it never hurts my feeling to hear some Dokken. Thanks Brian !!! Keep up the good work!
Hey Brian, loved the video, thanks for your effort putting this together. That Metal Distortion is actually a nice surprise. There are accepted ways of running signal chains, but I love it when people experiment with gear in ways it wasn't necessarily designed to be used. There's no right or wrong answer in artistic expression. Stay safe everyone 😉
I'm still learning the guitar and videos like this are great. I don't need anyone to tell me exactly where to put the knobs. Videos like this help me understand what the knobs are really doing when I turn them. I don't want to spend my time randomly twisting knobs to look for the tones I want. When I understand what the knobs are really doing I can find the tones I want much quicker. When I hear a guitar tone in my head I want to be able to find it quickly and start playing.
I believe I heard shades of “The Hunter” by Dokken on this one... always rockin, Brian!
Got mine MD-2 since 2004 ! I used to run with a Boss OD-2R boost. Congrats on your channel!!!!! Cheers from Viamão City - RS Estate 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
I love the MD-2! It even makes your rig sound better when the distortion and gain are all the way down. Great pedal!
Yeah exactly thats how i use it and the EQ section is so useful
When you riff Dokken....all pedal settings sound decent.
One of the better pedal channels on YT.
Just ordered my first Wampler...(The Pantheon)
I'm so psyched, your videos and others were very helpful in making my choice. Thanks man
It might have been nice to see the view in the analyzer as you move the tone knob on the pedal as well as how the eq knobs on the amp change the spectrum. Another thing some people don't consider is what the room is like. Some rooms just have a completely different eq than others. Definitely a good video, thanks!
Everything will sound completely different when playing live with a real bassist and drummer and singer and keyboard player. Sometimes a less meaty, thinner tone might cut through the mix better.
Bingo !
You get what you think is a great tone and then the band shows up and starts playing and crap, needs more mids. Never fails.
WHAT?!?!? You mean my 15 watt bedroom settings won't work in a 5 piece gig?!?!?
Yeah also when you get hats/snare/and vocals all contributing to high end “chicks” and “hisses” sounds I end up pulling lots of highs out as well and end up with an almost pure mid/high mid sound with very little bass or treble that sound great in a band on stage but really lo-fi and limited by itself
@@jeanenviedapprendre Mike it or line out to the PA, EQ to taste. Not quite the same as a big amp but will get it done.
Man I just love the look of that white Tele, it’s like chalk or milk paint. Thanks for the fun videos Brian.
I love the MD-2. People call it fizzy, but it's unique.
Boss makes great Pedals. They have for decades. This pedal is one I also overlooked as I didn't see a need. But after hearing this video , I can hear some useable tones in there to be discovered. I think backing off the gain on this pedal might be a sweet spot.
I bought a MD-2 in my 20’s. Barely used it as it squealed uncontrollably so I put it in a cupboard. Now in my 40’s I’ve figured out it sounds a lot better when you turn the knobs down.
I have learned ‘mega’ is not a description of quality, it just means lots.
Picked up a used TS9DX a few months back and I love it.
I see videos on RUclips all the time where people are demonstrating very expensive gear and still manage to make the gear sound like crap. This is a very well made video, very informative for those starting out, and I can appreciate that. The bottom line is really get to know your gear and use your ears to achieve whatever tone you're after. Oh yeah, another thing, spend less time watching RUclips and use that time playing your guitar instead :-)
That definitely changes the game! Thanks a lot for the video mate!
thanks brian. i use an OCD w level set at 11oclock, drive set at 10oclock, tone middle...through the front end of a fender HRD3 clean channel. boost it as needed for lead w a TS9 set with zero drive/2oclock level - it's heaven. that coupled with a Wampler tape echo and EQ in my effect loop . using my volume knobs on my guitar gives me so many options for tone, drive, etc....it's my go to rig and i love it.
Love the frequency analyzer.
Always informative and thanks for sharing Brian. Love the Dokken lick!
you caught me :-)
Thinking about it this difference can be useful in a live situation, such as when singing and you want a drop in gain/treble. (Using an A/B pedal). There are many instances when you want volume to drop and make a bigger hole for vocals or keyboards or another guitar player to cut in on lead. Great demo
Love your content man, thanks for doin your vids - priceless. Hope you’re well
For some reason I've always been a fan of bright amps with drive/fuzz pedals. Upper harmonics from distortion make it through to the speaker. To my ears, the Blues Driver with the tone up on the darker amp input got really nasally. Some people might want that.
My guitar has tone controls for both pickups so I'm a fan of adjusting my treble that way.
Good video Brian!
Great Bri. I just twiddle around and hopefully find the sound I'm after. It changes too in a band and at high volumes .
Cool video, as usual. Im wondering why so many ppl dont get that...
But i REALLY freaked out when you plaed "the hunter" with the Boss BD. OMFG, made my day :D
This is VERY important. Many older pedals were specific to amp types: a DS1 or Dist+ were designed to run into Marshalls. TS9 into a Fender (which is why Mesa guys love them, similar tone stacks).
Not to mention add this to say what a given designer thinks a "Marshall In A Box" should sound like. I have various clones of the Riot, Sansamp GT2, a Line 6 Butler Tube Driver on my M13, GT500, had a Pinnacle Deluxe, and just rebought a Joyo British Sound (Tech 21 British) to get me back where I want to be.
The Riot & GT500 sounded E P I C through a Brown Eye clean channel or various clean tube Marshalls. Through my Quilter TB201 I couldn't get that back, despite the Lead Channel being extremely similar to a clean JCM800.
Woods > Strings > Pickups > Effects > Preamp > Power Amp > Speaker > Mic. No matter what you choose, these are all stacked, and have to do so well. At least to your ears.
I use the BOSS Adaptive Distortion pedal. It’s a great pedal! It gives distinct sounds for each string whether playing chords or solos. It’s a little pricey, but well worth the money!
So to summarize this video, turn the tone control up on a dark sounding amp, turn it down on a bright sounding amp. Genius!
Enjoyed this video very much. Great job‼️🎸🔥
Nice that you're really digging into pedals that can be useful, if set correctly.
Hoping one day, you'll create a boost circuit that includes a 'resonance' & 'presence', that you jus can't find in amps that are solid state, as everyone knows...the Amptweaker Fishfinder & Fizzerator effects,which does just that, cannot be found anywhere!
Very insightful. Love your take on The Hunter from Dokken (5:58)
Your the smartest guy I don’t know that I wish I did...I have been running my pedals through the second input on my Modded hot rod devil and on my blond tone master...I thought those 2nd inputs were basically just -6 db..but I had noticed they delivered a different tone. Darker for sure..better for my drives anyway..so I guess I’m not crazy..thank u for that revelation🎸🔥
The best thing I ever did to improve my amp and pedal sounds was putting a Fryette Attenuator in the chain. Realized the solution to my constant tone-chasing wasn’t at my feet.
Yup got the boss tae and cooking the power tubes provides the tone we’re all looking for.
damn only $700? bargain toen
@@YangiTheCat Budgets vary, so not a bargain for some if your reply was sarcastic. I will say since i got it I only use one amp and my Marshall JVM410 and handwired Vox AC30 now see zero action. If I’d bought the attenuator first, that’s spending $700 to be satisfied and not spend an extra $4000 for the sake of variety, much less multiple dirt pedals no longer needed.
“Sounds completely common-sensical”. Love it!
I now have adjustments to make. Thank you kindly.
That mega distortion is a wicked good pedal and on a 7 string tuned down, amazing!!!
Cool! I always use the vibrato/reverb channel on my Deluxe Reverb. Thanks for the video. For sure use your ears and play with pedals, amps, guitars. That's the fun part, other than playing!
Since I have my strymon iridium i am mind blown of how different every pedal sounds by just changing the impulse response. Its like forget everything i thought i knew about my pedals sounds. It is the same with real speaker cabs. People dont underestimate the affect your speakers have on your sound, often if you dont like pedals, they dont do well with your current amp/speaker setup or, like brian says, you are just not using your tone knobs well. Everybody should add an eq pedal on their board
You're a legend Mr Wampler
ive been wanting to try some pedals,this was some good info.
I have one. Love the orange color of it.
More nerd episodes please Brian, you are an inspiration to us budding designers.
Greeting from southern Indiana! I think youre a hoosier too? Boss md2 has been my mainstay distortion since 2006 when i replaced my broken ds1. Love seeing it get some attention, the 2band eq really makes it versatile!
Yep! Just north of Bloomington
MD-2 was my first pedal ever bought. I use it with the gain and distortion all the way down. Still own it.
Hi, just stumbled across your video. About a hundred years ago 😉 (because I'm old, and make involuntary noises getting up from chairs these days) I worked in a guitar shop in London and a local sound engineer dropped in for a chat.
I was having a bit of a noodle on one of the shop guitars through a Boss MT-2 *takes cover* and this sound engineer says try putting it in the effects loop and stick a rack EQ in there aswell.
It blew. My. Mind. The sound was an entirely different beast, since then I've always tried distortion or overdrive pedals in the loop and sometimes it really works, sometimes its a bit m'eh.
If you have an amp with an effects loop, throw the pedal in there, then maybe get an EQ pedal and a compressor to put in front of the amp if you're running a combo.
Never been a fan of this pedal, but doesn’t sound too bad here; seems Brian knows what he’s doing!
I used to think the same about the DS-1 until I figured out where it's sweet spots are & that a lil clean boost stacked in tightens it up brilliantly.
Cool, finally Brian show me how to get a good sound out of my MD2 .. Got it at the flea market for £20
There r a lotta good sounds in it. Play a bass through it is also a good tip
According to everyone here, now you could sell it for £50
@@ZetaFuzzMachine... you can have it for £55 :)
Love the Dokken riffs! 👍
The blues driver sounds like a Marshall! This helped me make up my mind
Outstanding video ‼️🔥😎🎸
Thanks for this really useful video!
6:50 "The amount of FEMALES I get..."
Exactly what I heard!
I heard the same thing, but it's not what he said.. Its just that he didn't pause between the "of emails" and they blended together.
@@jeffg7047 haha, even the captions state “females”
He knows what he said. Brian can get it, yeah!
I had a boss od1 and ds1 back in 90' and with a marshall jcm900 2x12 i could get any tone but after 20 years i found the wampler pedals and ..... it is another world. Thank you Brian!
Awesome a Boss MD-2 was my first pedal. My brother handed it down to me and at first I used it for bass but I like it for guitar too.
I've got an MD-2 AND an MT-2. I know a lot of people rag on the Metal Zone but I love it. All it takes is adjusting it for whatever sound you like. IMHO
Great video. Btw, I'm loving my Tumnus I got a few months ago!
The Boss Mega Distortion was my 1st ever pedal, I even got it before my first electric guitar.
Excellent video, thanks for posting, much appreciated. New sub : )
Mega Distortion was my first distortion pedal. It was alright. Of course there were a lot fewer choices (that I was aware of) in 2002ish or whenever the heck I had it.
The frequency analyzer is awesome. Would you be able to show the two comparisons side by side or do a screen shot to show the difference? Thanks for the video Brian
Brian “George Lynch” Wampler makes an appearance! Very cool!
The ds-2 metal zone the one that everyone hates. is my favorite it has an EQ built into it high, low, and mids. It used to be the standard to scoop everything on guitar amps. Sounds great when youre by yourself. But no matter how much you turn your volume knobs up, you wont hear it. when playing with other people, as a guitarist, you need higher mids because guitar is a mid-range instrument.
MT-2
Ok I finally subscribed lol... you got me bro. You're cool and a great pedal maker as well. God bless
Enjoyed the content and Dokken riffage!
Great video... interesting & informative....cheers.
Just discovered this channel. I am almost %100 certain I used to skate with him in the high school days, homemade 1/4 in the driveway and he was trying to show me how to get above coping on bs airs. If I’m wrong I sound crazy probably lol
If you’re from central Indiana that’s probably me!
@@wampler_pedals yes sir I am
I just joined and liked. It’s always good
Amazing video. I have been using ONLY the normal channel in my DRRI exactly cause the vibrato shannel is bright. All the drives I try in it, sound like a thin "fly" sound. After watching this, I am gonna try some new EQ settings in the pedals. However, as far as you are concerned, can fuzz pedals be used in the vibrato channel of a DRRI without sounding too thin?
9:02 that was the most greg koch pinch harmonic ive ever heard not coming from greg koch
Would you run a Visual sound “Visual blues” pedal before or after a Klon?
Thanks for being you man... You and JHS really make my day. I look forward to your new video like Christmas brother! God bless and thanks for sharing?
Never had one, but I've always liked the Mega Distortion.
Was that the opening riff to Dokkens the Hunter? Also, do most two channel amps have no “preamp” on the clean channel? My Blackstar artist 15 claims this, so should I be using some king of preamp , maybe to boost volume and color it at least? It only has a volume and tone for clean channel. Great video as usual- super informative, Brian
Thanks for sharing this.
Brian single handedly increasing sleeper pedal prices lol
ah... the sweet taste of a rookie pedal user comment. lets ask what my 200+€ handmade pedals have to say about that 😂
jokes aside, if you come to the dark side, where the real sleeper pedals are, you find some wicked stuff 😅
@6:30 Brian is "The Hunter" lol
...Searching for love on these lonely streets again.
😂
Wow. I love my MD-2. Never see them mentioned.
Grrrrrreat (Tony the Tiger) on bass too!
MD-2 is my favorite ds pedal, let a friend borrow mine and never got it back, really need to grab another one
You need a new friend too.
Same. That was 10 years ago. Need to get another one.
That was a snake in the grass not a friend.
Another friend that is..rock on.
Better hurry up! Haha Everyone’s going to want one now. Hehe
love your playing
Great sound and vidéo.
"I'm a Hunter" - I like Brian Wampler's love for Dokken! Lynch is always a classic! @6:00.
Brian, great video as always. If you were to mod the MD1 what mods would you make? Asking for a friend of a friend.
I used to run my 3 drives on: med to high gain. I sounded fizzy, with zero-note-definition and extremely unprofessional. Now I've turned all 3-Drives "way down" and will occasionally Stack-em. I finally have several gorgeous Gain stages now. You-live & You-learn. Stay Safe.
GOOD tips Bri! Pedals will always react differently in different amps! Still you seemed to have too much low end flub to that sound! Might want to dial back some more low freqs on that amp! Most Fenders are very bassy sounding!
huuuuuh.....I was just playing along with some Dokken Back For The Attack today......pretty cool
He pulled out the Dokken!
The Hunter , Dokken nice!
I have the WAZACRAFT version and I much prefer it over the standard models.
It's only common sense if the common people know of it. They will only know by being taught. So thank you.
I realize this posting is 3 years old...but also, for the last 3 years, I've been trying to dial in the Dracarys to a usable tone. I bypass my preamp and go straight into the return because I don't care for the preamp...I can get a decent tone...until the rest of the band joins in. The mid control on that pedal is just weird. Unfortunately, I keep going back to my Metal Zone. Also, not everyone is using tube amps these days...and guitar stores (at least in my area) are few and far between, and don't have the more boutique stuff to try out, so I get stuck listening to demos on super high-end and colored videos that just don't provide a realistic display. I really want to love this Dracarys!
You played The hunter intro. Awsome we use to play that song in my band. My drummer loved dokken