30-30 for the redneck-assault rifle! Better ballistics than the other calibers, with hornady ftx easy out to 300 yds. Cheap to reload. Handgun calibers suck at distances over 100 yds, 45-70 is overkill for the assault-rifle purpose.
I don’t own any lever guns yet but I’m always asking myself 30-30 or .357 I plan on buying a tactical lever action carbine in the next year or so. Marlin has been catching my eye.
I am a lifelong Montanan (only exception is military service) and I currently own centerfire lever actions in 30/30, 358 Win and 405 Win. I have to say 30/30 is my favorite lever caliber. I used the 44 Mag, back in the 90s and it was great too. When the 45/70 and Marlin 1895 was cheap, I had one but it's not as useful. The 30/30 is extremely useful, was a long time patrol rifle and is exceptional inside of 200 yards with inexpensive bullets.
Great video Chris. We agree that 44 Mag is a great caliber for home defense and hunting. Most of us have loading benches too and not only can reloading be cheaper BUT you can also work up your own special loads to fine tune your rifle performance.
Hey, when I asked you guys if you had handguards for the Henry big octagon barrels, you guys told me no because they won't fit. Dude in the video has a octagon barrel and one of your handguards. Did you guys make products that fit the big boy octagon lever guns now? Or?
This helped a lot. I have been looking to get into lever action rifles. Of course i would love a 45.70 but i cant afford the rounds. Im thinking of the .357 magnum and later buying a 30-30. Great video and well done. I appreciate how you left the stumble in the opening when you fumbled with the lever. Most would cut that out to keep the image of being perfect. Everyone is human and has fumbles now and then. Well done.
357mag/38spl. First off there is a lot of versatility. 357 gets serious efficiency gains from long barrel. It’s powerful enough to be lethal. More capacity than 45/70. More available, and common in a scavenger scenario. Cheaper to train with. Suppressed 38spl is about as silent you are going to get, for stealthy operations, including hunting without drawing a crowd.
One of my goals is to have a collection of lever guns and single action revolvers. Just haven’t found the job to support the dream lol. Thanks for the video.
I think one of the biggest misconceptions about reloading is that it's primarily for those in the firearms community who are obsessed with long-range precision rifles or those old guys who were mentored by an even older guy and are whipping up "home brews" in their basement. This can be intimidating to the average shooter, i.e. those who want to train in self-defense shooting (high volume of rounds) or those who primarily plink (don't care about using the best and premium components). But, take it for what it's worth...there is truly something for every shooter in the reloading community. I'm primarily in the "volume" camp of reloading, and I can't believe that it took me this long to get into the hobby.
Truth is......they are all good if you understand their capabilities and actually enjoy training with it. I went with .45 Colt because I simply love that caliber for the reason that it's extremely versatile and subsonic. 45/70 does amazing damage, but not something I'd recommend for home defense, camping defense, truck gun, etc. because it's vastly too powerful and you will run into issues in court if you end up using it for self-defense. Everything that is mentioned about why to choose .44 Mag or .357/38 is also applicable to .45 Colt, they are all very versatile and great choices. The reason I've stuck with .45 Colt over 45/70 is because my wife won't train with something that is not fun to shoot. The 45/70 will wear out anyone if you spend a few hours training, the .45 Colt (or any of the others mentioned previously) are a caliber you can shoot all day long. For this very reason it simply makes vastly more sense because it doesn't matter one bit how great a caliber is if people don't enjoy shooting it.
I went with a Henry in 45 Colt. I do SASS so I load 45 Colts using a 255 grain bullet at about 700 t0 800 fps. In my rifle it is light and fun. With the 45 Colt when I am using it as a saddle gun , I use hot loads or +P loads. I can load a 250 grain, Hornady JHP and get it up to almost 1600 fps. It is a very versatile round. I really enjoy mine. Just have to be careful to keep my pistols loads and rife loads separate. Finger nail polish helps and separate well marked ammo boxes.
@@operator5677 In theory you should be able to from what I’ve heard. I have not tried it, but my Henry can handle .45LC +P, which is basically more pressure than the 454 Casull. I’d check with the gun manufacturer before I tried it though.
Thank you for the reply, I have the Ruger 454 Alaskan and was thinking of the cost effective way of ammo sharing and I’ll definitely inquire with the gun store
Absolutely love my shortened Henry all-weather in .44 magnum decked out with RPP parts. Just started getting some reloads together for that caliber and so far I'm loving the versatility.
Ranger Point’s rear receiver mounted sight is superior to the Skinner model since it nestles lower allowing you to utilize the factory front sights in most applications
My comment is only because you show a bit of it on your videos, depending on your angle of the camera, but a video tour of your room there, would be frickin amazing. If not, that's fine too. It just looks pretty awesome.
45 Colt is cool because with new brass you can hand load some butt stomping rounds or you can turn around and hand load some plinking loads. Lots of bullets weights to choose from. Now 45/70 has a wide range of loads and weights too.
Reloading may help you reconsider and give you a new hobby. Put together some light range loads or some full house stuff. It's fun if you have the interest and patience.
.44 hits about as hard as .30-30 but will fit way more in the tube. It's not quite as flat-shooting, but neither of them are exactly long-range precision calibers anyway.
I love my Henry Carbine .44 Mag ! Just put on a set of Skinner peep sights . I’ll hunt whitetail with it this fall in the cedar swamps in Northern Michigan…using Hornady 225 grain FTX or 240 grain XTP’s .
I always wanted to get a 44mag revolver and did last year. I am looking to buy a Levergun soon. I am so glad I got into reloading as its so much less costly especially if you can cast your own. 44 Mag/SPL can be loaded from low to high and each has a huge range. I think of it like the 45/70 lil brother. Its still a great load for seer etc out to about 150yds max for me. Great video on the new stuff for the levergun. Thanks for your effort and info.
I've got a .44 mag Rossi model 92, 24" stainless octagon barrel. I'm quite large so the barrel length works for me. Great for deer here in the East and great for hogs.
Yep, I just started this vid... but too (I see previous comments) select .357 Mag chambered lever guns. I have a Rossi R92 rifle (24" octagonal barreled with rifle furniture including a crescent butt plate fitted with a Marbles fully adjustable tang sight) chambered in .357 Mag and it's a pip. It will hold up to 12 magnums in the tube and it can really be very potent - like sneaking up on a 35 Remington. It can also shoot the .38 Special and hold more rounds and be very good for anti-personnel work...
As much as I love 45-70, .357 is the perfect lever gun caliber. 38 special is also a lot more plentiful around me compared to 44 special (I don’t think I’ve ever seen it on the shelf here in FL). Though I have seen the new lever guns they showed off at SHOT that accept AR or AR10 mags……
Sales on the foregrip would definitely be higher if Henry could get their act together to ramp up their X series. After calling/emailing over 40 stores and 2 distributors...I've had no luck. Any chance on putting pressure on Henry to get their act together so it justified getting your RPP products?
There pushing faster than anyone else so far. Who new so many still loved the lever gun. Marlin is hoping to have handgun calibers after summer. But it’s hard to find a 4570 from them
It seems that Henry is taking care of their favorite Gold Dealers, not going down a list by date. Find the right Gold Dealer and get on a list for your particular item. You will know you've found the right/wrong Gold Dealer when you either get a call, or don't, when you see a fresh batch of listings for your item on Gun Broker. That's how its done. Thank me later.
whats the best caliber for you? Try some out. I have shot a Marlin in .357 Mag and like it a lot. The capacity was quite good but i wanted something a bit stronger. So i tested a 30-30 and 45-70. Both were nice, but the ammo was too expensive. So i stepped back and bought a 44 Magnum. IMHO best compromise between power, entertainment, capacity and price.
Hornaby has a 325 grain that gets around 2000 fps. If found that to be kinda my sweetspot for 45-70. Wont powder your shoulder will fully stop a charging 380lb hog at 400+ yards. Which is impressive for a bullet that has the flight characteristics of an enraged brick
I enjoyed shooting 44 mag out of the brass Henry I had. Missed it so I bought a Big Boy X in 44 mag yesterday. I'll have to absorb your LA content and figure out what I want to modify on it.
Great video Chris🙏. There are many, many reasons why we choose our calibers. I (we) decided on the .38 Spec/.357 Mag. It works great for us. If you haven’t already tried the Henry Mares Leg in .38/.357 I can tell you it’s quite handy. Just imagine how quick handling it would be if you put on a standard Big Boy stock(but that does magically turn into a SBR). Just saying. 🫣🤙
Getting started, forget the presses and high costs. Start out with a 357, 44, or 45-70 with a Lee hand loader kit. All you need is a small mallet. It's slow but let's be honest it will be just fine for the average person and it will keep ya up and running and one can always upgrade loading equipment as funds allow or I'd one honestly needs more production.
I passed on a pristine Marlin in stainless steel, 45-70, at a local shop for around $500 . . . lever action like buttah . . . but, I live in the city and don't get out into bear country much, and that is what that rifle does best. Now, twenty years later, I'm still kicking myself for not buying it. What did I buy instead? A Beretta 21A in .25 . . . for close quarter self defense carry.
OK you’ve got me hooked on lever guns. Want to equip my Henry with a QD mount on Woodstock and ranger point forend. Looking at slings blue force or flat line fiber company, your thoughts, and or a video on this topic nobody has covered slings on these modern lover gun applications.
For factory 45-70 loads I found Hornady Leverevolution 325 gr at 2050 fps to be outstanding! Marlin 1895. 1" groups at 100 yds. In my opinion, very manageable recoil,even from the bench 👍
I always tell people the best caliber is what they can handle physically and economically. I'm enjoying the Henry 223 Remington-5.56 Nato. The old shoulder can spend an hour at the range with that caliber.
It depends on the intended target and range. If you are just shooting empty cans, there is nothing wrong with a 22LR. If you are after larger targets, you need to match the bullet to the target and the intended distance. I have some favorites. It's hard to go wrong with a 30-30 for whitetails inside 100 yards. But there are considerably better performing cartridges that are chambered in lever actions from Henry Long Ranger and Browning BLR. Like 243, 270, and 308. Those could get you out to 200 yards, or more. If we are talking about self-defense, it's hard to go wrong with a 357 mag. If we are talking about manufacturers, I would stick with Henry or Browning. I have owned dozens of levers. Winchesters, Marlins, Henrys, Brownings, & Rossi. Henrys and Brownings have the smoothest action and best accuracy, by far. The Browning BLR is a unique rifle. The bolt lugs are similar to an AR and lock into place the same way. This allows the receiver to be capable of handling cartridges with higher chamber pressures. The stacked magazine allows the cartridge to have a pointed bullet. But the mag will only carry 4 or 5 rounds, if I remember correctly. My advice......get 1 of everything!
I personally just dropped about 1200 for the whole Casta RPP set up for my true marlin 45-70 gov. Paired with a F-1 foregrip, with an eotech red dot with flip over magnifier... I Love It!!!... only thing left to do is chop to 17" and suppress... but I know that just as the henry with a 6" at 430 grain sub-sonics you can't hear it standing next to the gun... 😊😊😊
It depends on where you live and what you hunt. A lever gun in .44 mag is great for farm defense and hunting east of the Mississippi. The 45-70 and 30-30 have universal application. The .405 win, .348, .32 spcl, 25-35, .35 rem, all have their following. I am looking forward to getting a gun in .360 buckhammer.
Picked up a Rossi 92. In 357/38. Keeping it old school. But. Am looking at A Rossi 92 in 44 magnum. I’m thinking about doing those rails. And making it my home defense tool… your thoughts
38 special in a levergun is very easy to get follow up shots. And you don't really risk penetrating walls. I personally would feel confident with such an option.
My favorite lever gun caliber is a wildcat I have. 357/454 Casull. It’s a Winchester trapper, and I’ve got to see if Ranger point Precision has something for it.
This lever gun thing is unbelievable. Where is The NGAL/DBAL or Surefire light? Are the mini dots compatible with NVGs? Are they convertible to full auto with a registered sear?
Personally I like the .357 better for the nickel cases for corrosion resistance and the ability to go super hot 125's for self defense and 180 grains for a really deep penetrating deer/black bear hunting load.
I'm currently selling my house here in California and moving to Idaho Falls hopefully in the summer. Buying a gun here is like going to the dentist, I was going to buy my Henry 45-70, and a couple of other firearm's, but its to much of a hassle so I'll wait till I move up there. Man... I can't wait to walk into a gun store and make my purchase without all the bullshit like here.
I think it depends on how you are going to use it. North America towards Alaska and way northern states 45.70 More south,I would have a .38/357 or .44 or.45 or 30.30. Those are the do everything guns. I would use the .22magnum everyday like that
I have 25 lever guns. If I could only keep one it would be my 1980 made Oliver Winchester commemorative 38-55 or maybe my 1988 Browning 1895 30-40 Krag.
I know this is about Ranger Point but I'm more of a traditionalist for my lever guns. I have an old Winchester 94 "build" in 30 WCF AI but my other three are all Rossi R92's in pistol calibers.
The shotgun world seems to have embraced soft, velcro-backed shell cards over fixed, rigid holders and I'm curious if that would benefit lever guns at all. Rip off the empty shell card, pull a new one from whatever container and you're good to keep going!
You start at 45-70 and work your way down.
My ammo budget disagrees..
I agree
@@eriksforestryvision8751 I also relate.
And here I am going from a 22 to 9 lol
Hahaha! Done that
..... am I the only one that just enjoys the happy middle ground that is the 30-30?
30-30 for the redneck-assault rifle!
Better ballistics than the other calibers, with hornady ftx easy out to 300 yds. Cheap to reload. Handgun calibers suck at distances over 100 yds, 45-70 is overkill for the assault-rifle purpose.
Nah I'm right there with you. You can take game and it has similar ballistics to 7.62x39 if you want to flex it into an hd rifle. Marlin Dark 336.
I don’t own any lever guns yet but I’m always asking myself 30-30 or .357
I plan on buying a tactical lever action carbine in the next year or so. Marlin has been catching my eye.
@@Heisenbrick I have a Marlin 336 dark in 30-30. It's great. 30-30 is an excellent calibre.
Nope
I am a lifelong Montanan (only exception is military service) and I currently own centerfire lever actions in 30/30, 358 Win and 405 Win. I have to say 30/30 is my favorite lever caliber. I used the 44 Mag, back in the 90s and it was great too. When the 45/70 and Marlin 1895 was cheap, I had one but it's not as useful. The 30/30 is extremely useful, was a long time patrol rifle and is exceptional inside of 200 yards with inexpensive bullets.
.357mag/.38 Special for sure larger ammo capacity. Suppressed .38 is INSANELY quiet. Cheaper ammo prices
Good choice or 44 Mag
most commonly available as well.
I run 38 special in my Henry Big Boy x 357 with an obsidian 45 and its such a joy to shoot.
Double that with an ankle holster 357/38 wheel gun snubby and you're in business. Only thing missing is a 12 guage.
I'd love to have a lever action that could shoot 10mm/.40 s&w. Slightly better ballistics but similar availability and versatility
Wow... that skeletonized Henry looks good! This resurgence of the level gun is cool af.
Great video Chris. We agree that 44 Mag is a great caliber for home defense and hunting. Most of us have loading benches too and not only can reloading be cheaper BUT you can also work up your own special loads to fine tune your rifle performance.
For hunting yes, for home defense....hell no, way too hot for home defense.
@@Diemerstein you sissy, my home defense is a 458 LOTT
44 mag is not a good home defense weapon it will penetrate every room in your house kill the wife and kids.
Hey, when I asked you guys if you had handguards for the Henry big octagon barrels, you guys told me no because they won't fit. Dude in the video has a octagon barrel and one of your handguards.
Did you guys make products that fit the big boy octagon lever guns now? Or?
This helped a lot. I have been looking to get into lever action rifles. Of course i would love a 45.70 but i cant afford the rounds. Im thinking of the .357 magnum and later buying a 30-30. Great video and well done. I appreciate how you left the stumble in the opening when you fumbled with the lever. Most would cut that out to keep the image of being perfect. Everyone is human and has fumbles now and then. Well done.
Classic 30-30 win 🏆 👌
357mag/38spl. First off there is a lot of versatility. 357 gets serious efficiency gains from long barrel. It’s powerful enough to be lethal. More capacity than 45/70. More available, and common in a scavenger scenario. Cheaper to train with. Suppressed 38spl is about as silent you are going to get, for stealthy operations, including hunting without drawing a crowd.
One of my goals is to have a collection of lever guns and single action revolvers. Just haven’t found the job to support the dream lol. Thanks for the video.
I think one of the biggest misconceptions about reloading is that it's primarily for those in the firearms community who are obsessed with long-range precision rifles or those old guys who were mentored by an even older guy and are whipping up "home brews" in their basement.
This can be intimidating to the average shooter, i.e. those who want to train in self-defense shooting (high volume of rounds) or those who primarily plink (don't care about using the best and premium components).
But, take it for what it's worth...there is truly something for every shooter in the reloading community. I'm primarily in the "volume" camp of reloading, and I can't believe that it took me this long to get into the hobby.
No Love for the .30-30? More downrange energy than a .44, and can be loaded subsonic. Lots of brass and bullets available.
And it's a helluva lot cheaper.
30/30 is a classic!…👍
.357 magnum. Best self defense pistol cartridge, and a perfectly acceptable rifle cartridge.
So 9mm?
@@mikie1466 N-... No.
Truth is......they are all good if you understand their capabilities and actually enjoy training with it. I went with .45 Colt because I simply love that caliber for the reason that it's extremely versatile and subsonic. 45/70 does amazing damage, but not something I'd recommend for home defense, camping defense, truck gun, etc. because it's vastly too powerful and you will run into issues in court if you end up using it for self-defense. Everything that is mentioned about why to choose .44 Mag or .357/38 is also applicable to .45 Colt, they are all very versatile and great choices.
The reason I've stuck with .45 Colt over 45/70 is because my wife won't train with something that is not fun to shoot. The 45/70 will wear out anyone if you spend a few hours training, the .45 Colt (or any of the others mentioned previously) are a caliber you can shoot all day long. For this very reason it simply makes vastly more sense because it doesn't matter one bit how great a caliber is if people don't enjoy shooting it.
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I went with a Henry in 45 Colt. I do SASS so I load 45 Colts using a 255 grain bullet at about 700 t0 800 fps. In my rifle it is light and fun. With the 45 Colt when I am using it as a saddle gun , I use hot loads or +P loads. I can load a 250 grain, Hornady JHP and get it up to almost 1600 fps. It is a very versatile round. I really enjoy mine. Just have to be careful to keep my pistols loads and rife loads separate. Finger nail polish helps and separate well marked ammo boxes.
Can you use 454 casull in 45 long colt?
@@operator5677 In theory you should be able to from what I’ve heard. I have not tried it, but my Henry can handle .45LC +P, which is basically more pressure than the 454 Casull. I’d check with the gun manufacturer before I tried it though.
Thank you for the reply, I have the Ruger 454 Alaskan and was thinking of the cost effective way of ammo sharing and I’ll definitely inquire with the gun store
Absolutely love my shortened Henry all-weather in .44 magnum decked out with RPP parts. Just started getting some reloads together for that caliber and so far I'm loving the versatility.
I'm a big fan of .357/.38 for a lever gun.
Powerful enough, accurate enough and good enough magazine capacity.
I have a tactified Henry .410 lever action based on the .45-70 frame. Extremely accurate shooting Brenneke slugs.
Ranger Point’s rear receiver mounted sight is superior to the Skinner model since it nestles lower allowing you to utilize the factory front sights in most applications
I appreciate the realistic B-Roll where it shows malfunctions too. Thanks for not blowing smoke to sell a product.
Depends on what you want to do with it. Mine's .45 Colt.
Reloading is a must during these times.
My comment is only because you show a bit of it on your videos, depending on your angle of the camera, but a video tour of your room there, would be frickin amazing. If not, that's fine too. It just looks pretty awesome.
45 Colt is cool because with new brass you can hand load some butt stomping rounds or you can turn around and hand load some plinking loads. Lots of bullets weights to choose from. Now 45/70 has a wide range of loads and weights too.
45 70 packs a serious punch i love it, but darn it's expensive ammo!
I want one but like u said the ammo makes me think definitely.
@@eidtnaci 2 bucks a trigger pull 😳
Reloading may help you reconsider and give you a new hobby. Put together some light range loads or some full house stuff. It's fun if you have the interest and patience.
Great video Chris!
Appreciate that my friend
I have a Marlin 1895SBL 45/70 and a Two Henry’s both Mares Legs converted into SBR’s. 45 colt and a 22mag in lever action. Love mine.
Loving the lever gun action.
Here in the UK it's a great choice for good fun.
.30-30 is the best, for me. This may be because I only have a .30-30. 😂
30-06 very practical, .45-70 very fun, .44 and ,357 mag good choices.
.44 hits about as hard as .30-30 but will fit way more in the tube. It's not quite as flat-shooting, but neither of them are exactly long-range precision calibers anyway.
30-06 Lever Gun?
Seems a bit dangerous
@@ritotron5752 why would you think that?
@@ritotron5752 perfectly safe in a model 1895 Winchester!
@@ritotron5752why’s this
I love my Henry Carbine .44 Mag !
Just put on a set of Skinner peep sights .
I’ll hunt whitetail with it this fall in the cedar swamps in Northern Michigan…using Hornady 225 grain FTX or 240 grain XTP’s .
Look at Costa letting the lettuce Flow! Heck yeah buddy looking good.
I wouldn't mind one in 357 magnum.
I got one. It's great. Hardly any recoil.
@@TheGorillafoot I imagine reloading for 357 magnum specifically out of a carbine lends itself quite well to that cartridge.
.38 special suppressed on the lever is movie quiet, it’s insane
I wouldn't mind one in 120mm M829.
That would be my dream 357 and matching wheel gun. But since I was in the army I always wanted a 45-70
This is exactly the video I was looking for yesterday!
Always great to see Serj Tankian on the range.
Dayuum totally awesome gun room!
I always wanted to get a 44mag revolver and did last year. I am looking to buy a Levergun soon. I am so glad I got into reloading as its so much less costly especially if you can cast your own. 44 Mag/SPL can be loaded from low to high and each has a huge range. I think of it like the 45/70 lil brother. Its still a great load for seer etc out to about 150yds max for me. Great video on the new stuff for the levergun. Thanks for your effort and info.
I've got a .44 mag Rossi model 92, 24" stainless octagon barrel. I'm quite large so the barrel length works for me. Great for deer here in the East and great for hogs.
Yep, I just started this vid... but too (I see previous comments) select .357 Mag chambered lever guns. I have a Rossi R92 rifle (24" octagonal barreled with rifle furniture including a crescent butt plate fitted with a Marbles fully adjustable tang sight) chambered in .357 Mag and it's a pip. It will hold up to 12 magnums in the tube and it can really be very potent - like sneaking up on a 35 Remington. It can also shoot the .38 Special and hold more rounds and be very good for anti-personnel work...
As much as I love 45-70, .357 is the perfect lever gun caliber. 38 special is also a lot more plentiful around me compared to 44 special (I don’t think I’ve ever seen it on the shelf here in FL).
Though I have seen the new lever guns they showed off at SHOT that accept AR or AR10 mags……
shoutout the 727
Sales on the foregrip would definitely be higher if Henry could get their act together to ramp up their X series. After calling/emailing over 40 stores and 2 distributors...I've had no luck. Any chance on putting pressure on Henry to get their act together so it justified getting your RPP products?
There pushing faster than anyone else so far. Who new so many still loved the lever gun. Marlin is hoping to have handgun calibers after summer. But it’s hard to find a 4570 from them
@@TheofficialCostaludus been on waiting list since november 2022.
It seems that Henry is taking care of their favorite Gold Dealers, not going down a list by date. Find the right Gold Dealer and get on a list for your particular item. You will know you've found the right/wrong Gold Dealer when you either get a call, or don't, when you see a fresh batch of listings for your item on Gun Broker. That's how its done. Thank me later.
My god, that Henry in 44 Magnum is magnificent. 😮
whats the best caliber for you? Try some out. I have shot a Marlin in .357 Mag and like it a lot. The capacity was quite good but i wanted something a bit stronger. So i tested a 30-30 and 45-70. Both were nice, but the ammo was too expensive. So i stepped back and bought a 44 Magnum. IMHO best compromise between power, entertainment, capacity and price.
Hornaby has a 325 grain that gets around 2000 fps. If found that to be kinda my sweetspot for 45-70. Wont powder your shoulder will fully stop a charging 380lb hog at 400+ yards. Which is impressive for a bullet that has the flight characteristics of an enraged brick
I've never had a hog charge me from 400 yards before.
I enjoyed shooting 44 mag out of the brass Henry I had. Missed it so I bought a Big Boy X in 44 mag yesterday. I'll have to absorb your LA content and figure out what I want to modify on it.
I've been out of the loop for a while I guess. Costa is now tactical Bob Ross. I like it.
Grew up on lever action Marlins.. still a 30/30 and a .22 in use that were my fathers. I'm 62 now
A 357 GP100 and 357 lever gun sure is a good combo :)
Some old marlins in 308 marlin express are selling for over $3000 and there is a reason . By far the best lever action cal..
.45 Colt. Subsonic is great for suppressing and can be easily purchased. Hot loads are readily available.
45 colt is now more expensive than 44 mag in Pa.
.44 mag lever action is the way to go!!
Nice to see you loading your own, Chris!
What do you think of the AR mag fed lever gun Fightlite is putting out soon??? The Herring model 2024. 450 bushmaster sounds fun out of it!
I’ve been thinking about a 44 lever gun cause I already have the revolver.
Great video Chris🙏. There are many, many reasons why we choose our calibers. I (we) decided on the .38 Spec/.357 Mag. It works great for us. If you haven’t already tried the Henry Mares Leg in .38/.357 I can tell you it’s quite handy. Just imagine how quick handling it would be if you put on a standard Big Boy stock(but that does magically turn into a SBR). Just saying. 🫣🤙
Brethren! Thank you for always sharing solid info!
Getting started, forget the presses and high costs. Start out with a 357, 44, or 45-70 with a Lee hand loader kit. All you need is a small mallet. It's slow but let's be honest it will be just fine for the average person and it will keep ya up and running and one can always upgrade loading equipment as funds allow or I'd one honestly needs more production.
I passed on a pristine Marlin in stainless steel, 45-70, at a local shop for around $500 . . . lever action like buttah . . . but, I live in the city and don't get out into bear country much, and that is what that rifle does best. Now, twenty years later, I'm still kicking myself for not buying it.
What did I buy instead?
A Beretta 21A in .25 . . . for close quarter self defense carry.
Like your rifle I have a model 336. Old school type.
OK you’ve got me hooked on lever guns. Want to equip my Henry with a QD mount on Woodstock and ranger point forend. Looking at slings blue force or flat line fiber company, your thoughts, and or a video on this topic nobody has covered slings on these modern lover gun applications.
Kind of depends on a lot of factors including usage profile, priorities, and applicable regulations.
For factory 45-70 loads I found Hornady Leverevolution 325 gr at 2050 fps to be outstanding! Marlin 1895. 1" groups at 100 yds. In my opinion, very manageable recoil,even from the bench 👍
My 2 lever guns , marlin 1895 skinner trapper 45/70...and a model 336 ..chambered in 35 Remington..👍👍👍
I always tell people the best caliber is what they can handle physically and economically. I'm enjoying the Henry 223 Remington-5.56 Nato. The old shoulder can spend an hour at the range with that caliber.
The JK suppressors are the perfect combination with these lever guns!
It depends on the intended target and range.
If you are just shooting empty cans, there is nothing wrong with a 22LR.
If you are after larger targets, you need to match the bullet to the target and the intended distance.
I have some favorites. It's hard to go wrong with a 30-30 for whitetails inside 100 yards. But there are considerably better performing cartridges that are chambered in lever actions from Henry Long Ranger and Browning BLR. Like 243, 270, and 308. Those could get you out to 200 yards, or more.
If we are talking about self-defense, it's hard to go wrong with a 357 mag.
If we are talking about manufacturers, I would stick with Henry or Browning. I have owned dozens of levers. Winchesters, Marlins, Henrys, Brownings, & Rossi.
Henrys and Brownings have the smoothest action and best accuracy, by far.
The Browning BLR is a unique rifle. The bolt lugs are similar to an AR and lock into place the same way. This allows the receiver to be capable of handling cartridges with higher chamber pressures. The stacked magazine allows the cartridge to have a pointed bullet. But the mag will only carry 4 or 5 rounds, if I remember correctly.
My advice......get 1 of everything!
Two years ago I killed a nice 8 point at 140 yards with my 3030 he dropped in his tracks.
my 30/30 is a marlin 336BL very accurate.
My best home defense weapon is the Judge with 00buckshot.
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How does it do at 300?
Now you get my point?
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At what range?
I personally just dropped about 1200 for the whole Casta RPP set up for my true marlin 45-70 gov. Paired with a F-1 foregrip, with an eotech red dot with flip over magnifier... I Love It!!!... only thing left to do is chop to 17" and suppress... but I know that just as the henry with a 6" at 430 grain sub-sonics you can't hear it standing next to the gun... 😊😊😊
It depends on where you live and what you hunt. A lever gun in .44 mag is great for farm defense and hunting east of the Mississippi. The 45-70 and 30-30 have universal application. The .405 win, .348, .32 spcl, 25-35, .35 rem, all have their following. I am looking forward to getting a gun in .360 buckhammer.
That henry is magnificent!!
I want a Henry X in 10mm!
Plz.plz.plz
Picked up a Rossi 92. In 357/38. Keeping it old school. But. Am looking at A Rossi 92 in 44 magnum. I’m thinking about doing those rails. And making it my home defense tool… your thoughts
38 special in a levergun is very easy to get follow up shots. And you don't really risk penetrating walls. I personally would feel confident with such an option.
My favorite lever gun caliber is a wildcat I have. 357/454 Casull. It’s a Winchester trapper, and I’ve got to see if Ranger point Precision has something for it.
Just found your video. Can I get more info on your build.
Guess I’m the only one with the Henry X in .45 colt , just call me old fashioned
This lever gun thing is unbelievable. Where is The NGAL/DBAL or Surefire light? Are the mini dots compatible with NVGs? Are they convertible to full auto with a registered sear?
There's only one thing that would make all this just a little bit better. Cornrows. Cornrow that dome up and good things will happen.
Waiting for one in 350 legend.
Just got my 45LC... mmm, spicy. lol. I am getting into the smaller calibers next. These rifles are so much fun.
Just getting into reloading SPECIFICALLY for this caliber. Will you make some tutorials as you become an expert on each stage?
your shop background is impressive!! ;)
Personally I like the .357 better for the nickel cases for corrosion resistance and the ability to go super hot 125's for self defense and 180 grains for a really deep penetrating deer/black bear hunting load.
I thought ranger point didnt have products, accessories for the Henry big boys with the octagon barrels?
Any. I want an all weather so bad just can't afford right now.😢
I got a 44 magnum but definitely want a 45-70 and a 357
I did not get what gun that was. Is it a Big Boy X ? I wanted tu buy a Marlin, but there are not many options in 357. Maybe I go for the Henry
Thanks
I like fud lever action all wood iron sight. 357/38 seems versatile and affordable.
Almost perfect, to get it 100% perfect I would need folding stock..(to be able to fold the skeleton part)
That garage/gun room is awesome!!
How do you buy the Henry already built out from someone?
AWSOME video! Your father-in-law is so PROUD!
You look like Carlos Santana had a baby with Doc Brown. That’s a compliment, and it sounded better in my head.
I am today days only when I learned that my .44 mag revolver will accept .44 special, this vid spurred the research. Freaking awesome!
Lol
357 guns will run 38 special. Life hacks
I'm currently selling my house here in California and moving to Idaho Falls hopefully in the summer. Buying a gun here is like going to the dentist, I was going to buy my Henry 45-70, and a couple of other firearm's, but its to much of a hassle so I'll wait till I move up there. Man... I can't wait to walk into a gun store and make my purchase without all the bullshit like here.
Spot on with the wifey arguments 🤣
"She calls bull sh*t!" Love it.
W94 357 is my fav. But 3030 still thumps
I think it depends on how you are going to use it.
North America towards Alaska and way northern states 45.70
More south,I would have a .38/357 or .44 or.45 or 30.30.
Those are the do everything guns.
I would use the .22magnum everyday like that
I have 25 lever guns. If I could only keep one it would be my 1980 made Oliver Winchester commemorative 38-55 or maybe my 1988 Browning 1895 30-40 Krag.
I know this is about Ranger Point but I'm more of a traditionalist for my lever guns. I have an old Winchester 94 "build" in 30 WCF AI but my other three are all Rossi R92's in pistol calibers.
Are the current "Marlins" i.e. the Ruger Marlins compatiable with your buttstocks?
The shotgun world seems to have embraced soft, velcro-backed shell cards over fixed, rigid holders and I'm curious if that would benefit lever guns at all. Rip off the empty shell card, pull a new one from whatever container and you're good to keep going!
It's out there. Just seen one online last night
What do you think of the Rossi 92 triple black? Is it a myth that .357 can set off another round in the mag tube?
Don’t forget these two great Winchester lever action calibers: .25-35 and .38-55.