Can this process work with 98% sulfuric acid + fuming nitric acid combo? Or does it have to be AN? I thought the reason why they don't use fuming nitric acid for nitration is due to danger of temperature rise that could cause runway reaction... At the end of this process when you get that goopy mixture done, do you just pour water in there to filter out precipitated ETN?
Yeah you could totally use nitric acid, I ratios may be a lil different but not too drastically different. Also make sure you cool all your acid down in the fridge/freezer etc before synthesis. It also helps to keep the nitrating erythritol in an ice bath. Make sure temp doesn’t really dip below 5’C (41F) but doesn’t get over 20’C (69F) . I normally keep it around 10 but everyone has their own preferred temp.
Yes that would be the most efficient way of doing it. Chill then disolve the erythratol in nitric plus 10% sulfuric first than slowly add the rest of sulfuric acid to complete the esterfication reaction. 🤓
@IMPROVISED CHAOS Europe bans Sulfuric acid over 40% and restricticts to 15% without a license. Holy fuk if you download the full document. You will find that a huge list of other chemicals are super restricted and banned sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=155798
@@fudes587 it's been thoroughly tested, and actually you get better yields at around 15°C, cooling it too much will result in extremely poor yields. I wouldn't go any higher than 15 and any lower than 10.
With that one it does not really matter, chilling supposedly makes a bigger molecule, adding a little bit of tin chloride forms the tetameric molecule instead of the trimeric molecular structure. The dimer is stupidly sensitive, it is formed when the heat is abouve about 30 deg C. The trimer is formed at 15 deg C or less. The tetramer is formed at 5 to 10 deg C in the presence of SnCl2 🤓.
Arent you afraid that you get a "runaway"? I wouldnt dare get it about 10 degrees C, its best to keep it between 0C and 10C. 0C is ice in water. I do get that you get bigger yields. But there are other ways to get even bigger ETN yields. But you need chemistry glass for that. It is described in the patent of Erythritol tetranitrate. It also helps in getting the sugar alcohol to a powder, that really improves yield to, and preferably get it as a powder, grains are really a 2nd choice. He, you best be sure you wont get caught. The guy going by the name "nuclear rabbit" got into trouble when he set of 13kg of ANNM. They searched his house, and found a fridge full of stuff, and then i got in trouble. :( So its best to try to be legal, or at least read on how to get legal. I know that farmers use explosives to clear land of rocks and tree stumps so getting a license should be something worth considering. ETN is pretty good stuff. Its a bit sensitive though. Greetings, Jeff
You can get the erythritol tetranitrate reaction using ammonium nitrate and sulfuric acid and of course erythritol all the way up to 20 degrees Celsius and still be in the clear as long as you have a ice bath that had salt added to it to bring the temperature down standing by I get the best yield if I keep the reaction between 15 and 18 degrees Celsius I typically add almost all of the ammonium nitrate first by itself before adding the erythritol while the reaction vessel is in the ice bath it never gets above 8 to 10 degrees Celsius then when I start adding the erythritol I remove the reaction vessel from the ice bath (just temporarily) & I add erythritol until I get the charge too around 18 degrees Celsius, i then put the reaction vessel back in the ice bath and add enough erythritol to keep the reaction around 18 degrees Celsius no more than 20 degrees Celsius you want to have all the components added to the acid within 30 to 45 minutes sometimes it takes a while if you're doing a big reaction if I do a small reaction I can get all the components added within 15 minutes while keeping the temperature in the appropriate range, I've only had one run away during the countless times I've synthesized etn and all that happened was the etn charge turned a dark yellow and started off-gassing that horrendous toxic gas at that point I had a crash bucket handy with sodium bicarbonate in it and a bunch of ice water and I just dropped the entire vessel into that killing the reaction immediately you should know that I use 99.9% pure anhydrous ammonium nitrate also i use confectioner's erythritol meaning it is powderized like powdered sugar, I also ball mill the ammonium nitrate to get it as powderized as the erythritol, also I use a magnetic stir plate but have recently learned how to complete the synthesis without one and also without a thermometer but mind you I have much experience with etn and can tell the average temperature by touch this does not get me the greatest yield but I still produce quality powerful etn also you can use "Zep 90%+ concentration sulfuric acid drain opener" in replace of the standard lab grade or industrial-grade 98% sulfuric acid your yield will be slightly affected from this but the deep red color of the Zep does not transfer to the etn and you will still yield a pure white to off-white product
@@improvisedchaos6355 So what did you do different that made the ETN synthesis runaway? Did you leave it too long on its own? Im getting a feeling that it has the tendency that it runsaway if you keep it unstirred too long. I would not try it without a thermometer. You should try the method of first making fuming nitric acid with the ammonium nitrate and the sulfuric acid. And then try the patent. It should bring you more yield than you have now. Its not so low tech. But what is so cool about getting yellow hands like a canary and inhaling toxic fumes? Also use chemistry glass from banggood or aliexpress, its cheap. You should get the "zubrick organic chemistry" book its free for downloading on archive.org. It explains on how to use chemistry glass, and some more things on dissolving. Greetings, Jeff
@@jeffjefferson2676 when I had the run away I was making etn for the first time and did not realize that the stir bar on the magnetic stir plate had came off center and was not spinning anymore because I could not see through the charge, but that's what I do I mix the ammonium nitrate and sulfuric acid first and then add the erythritol I normally get 2.5 to 2.7 grams of erythritol tetranitrate for every gram of erythritol which is a better conversion rate than most chemists get in a laboratory setting and also how you synthesize it determines the strength of the etn when you pull it out of the charge and neutralize it all those variables come into play when concerning the strength of the etn
@@improvisedchaos6355 Its been a while since ive done the math, but that is a large yield. I dont know what the theoretical 100% yield was. But it was something around that number if i remember correctly. Im not going to count all the atoms again and do the math; but are you sure thats what youve got? I remember that my yield was so so (lower temperatures) and i thought well, maybe the laboratory patented way is better. They also work with even higher temperatures, but to be sure, you should read it yourself. When you just need a big booster charge for ammoniumnitrate based explosives. ETN and the way you are doing it is definitely the way to go. It the nitromethane part that is actually the hardest ingredient to get/make. Where do you get it? Do you do a synthesis? Greetings, Jeff
Any alternatives for coffee filters because i still can't buy them. Im gona make som etn any tips? Also how long does it take for the H2SO4 + NH4NO3 to react?
It starts reacting as soon as u put the charge in the acid I would add half the amount of ammonium nitrate first after I would combine the erythritol with the remaining ammonium nitrate and add it in together. This will keep the temperature from spiking in the beginning of the reaction
About the filters...after u crash the charge make sure there is enough water to dilute the acid enough for you to use maybe cheese cloth or a few layers of a synthetic cloth like from an old shirt but make sure it's NOT cotton sulfuric acid loves eating cotton! Lol
First crush all the ammonium nitrate, add it slowly to the sulfuric acid. Keep the temperature low(below 10C) so you wont have a runaway(!!!) with red NOx fumes. When it is all mixed, add the powdered Erythritol, a little bit at a time (I like to keep it below 10C), so not to get a runaway(!!!!!). And when it is all mixed, you can leave it for a little bit. Then add the mixture to a big bucket of water, and let the crystals form. Let the crystals go too the bottom, and throw away the majority of the liquid. Then add more water, get cleaning soda to get he pH to 7. Throw the majority of the liquid down the drain, and filter the rest through vacuum glass filter preferably. Otherwise gravity filter with a coffee filter. Now you have got pretty stable ETN. You can recrystallize it by first dissolving the ETN in acetone. Add water to the mixture to precipitate the ETN out and let it form crystals. If you just want to cast the ETN, you can heat water, put a glass jar in the water, put the ETN in the jar. Heat until it melts. You can now cast the ETN, or you can add (pure!!!) paraffin to get a more stable cast able ETN. They use that paraffin/ETN mixture in RPG 7 rocket warheads ive read. First read on explosives before you do anything with it. You can only blow your hands off/kill yourself once. So be very careful. Also, there is no life after this one, so dont even think about blowing yourself or someone else up. Get a life, and be happy. :) Explosives are fun, but you want to be safe. Greetings, Jeff
@@jeffjefferson2676 just wondering would the reaction still take place with other nitrates such as potassium or lead nitrates in substitute of ammonium nitrate? I mean i was gonna just try it but maybe you can spare me the trouble?
You can use potassium nitrate instead but can’t use hydrochloric acid instead of sulfuric. If you have trouble getting sulfuric acid you can try extract and distill/purify the sulfuric acid in car batteries, generally the concentration of that is around 20-30% but it is very contaminated with lead and stuff hence the need for purification. Also if you just search hard online you could probably get some, it’s really hard to get where I live but just out of sheer will and the refusal to quit looking I managed to get myself 15l of 96% sulfuric acid. Good luck!
@@timeisajourney6062 first of all! do not even think about peroxides... tatp is a death wish! For etn You can use high voltage ebw or spark gap, thermal shock, a powerful flash powder or safe primaries.
Mannitol is pretty pretty good ive read. Its about the same deal. It has a melting point though. So its not too good for casting. Casting ETN is doable. You can mix it with paraffin, it helps to desensitize it. Greetings, Jeff p.s. check out the links in my youtube channels about section.
@@energeticpyro209 What does the place matter where you cast it?? Impregnated in paraffin its a lot more stable. Just be careful not to overheat it, or drop it. It should be good. Just dont make to big of a batch. Greetings, Jeff p.s. I dont make explosives anymore, i like to keep my hands, but even then. It really did look safe.
@@jeffjefferson2676 hello Jeff, I'm new to this hobby and would like to know how are the steps to produce ETN, it will be my first experience with explosives could you help me?
@@Nene-zk1hj Basically you need to understand that you need a strong acid sulfuric acid (H2SO4, draincleaner, make sure this is in the draincleaner) and a nitrate donor (ammonium nitrate, NH4NO3), and add the ammonium nitrate to the acid slowly. Make sure the ammonium nitrate is very small (grinded), and add little bits at a time. The temperature should be kept under 10C, or else a "runaway" could follow. If that happens the experiment fails and you get a lot of red noxious fumes (NO2) of nitrogendioxide. Once all the ammoniumnitrate is added to the dihydrogensulfate(sulfuric acid), start adding the erytrytol, make sure you get the powdered one, or grind it really small. Keep the temperature under 10C or you will get a runaway, and you dont need that. Keep stirring (with a glass rod or something like that, a glass thermometer could break..). You need to have more of the acid nitrate mixture than you would think you will need when you do the "stoichiometry" on paper. Be sure to look up stoichiometry and understand what it means. Also learn how to transfer weight to mols and density of a material to ml etc. You are better of downloading a copy of "Chemistry, McMurry" on "PDFDRIVE". Learn the first 2 chapters, and then start to do some experiments. Its way better to know to much than to blow your hands off. Downloading "maple" on "the pirate bay" will give you an edge with doing math. It will ask a lot to get to know the book, and to do maple well. But i cannot advice you to start off with making an explosive if you never did chemistry before. Maybe reading "Zubrick-Organic Chemistry Laboratory Survival Manual", is a good start on getting to know the procedures on how to do an experiment. When you have reacted all the Erythrytol (the temperature did not go up anymore for about 15 minutes), you can add a lot of water, and filter the material. Then add some more water, and then add disodiumcarbonate(Na2CO3, its washing soda and its cheap). Make sure you add the disodiumcarbonate untill the Ph is 7(a Ph meter is cheap on aliexpress or banggood). Now dry the ETN, put a small piece in aluminum foil, and hit it with a hammer. It should give a bang. Always wear eye and ear protection. ETN is not sensitive to fire, and will just burn. You need a primary, and you need to sensitize the ETN with matchhead powder to detonate it reliably. Be sure you do not blow your fingers off. 1 gram can blow your hands to pieces, and leave you scarred for life. Be responsible. Also there are a lot of ETN videos out there. When you are more advanced with chemistry and have read the labmanual, the "patent" of erythrytoltetranitrate. You can make this compount with labglass you can buy that too off banggood or aliexpress. ETN can be made in a glass jar, and you do not need any labglas at all. It can be as low tech as a jar, draincleaner, washingsoda, grassfertilizer, icecubes, and dietsugar. And of course water. Dont do something dumb with the ETN, you could regret it later. Greetings, Jeff
Wash with distilled water. Than wash with 5% sodium bicarbonate. Next wash with destilled water in excess adding HCl till ph strip stays neutral. Next disolve in acetone and add 20% ethanol, distill off the acetone until it becomes cloudy then dump at once into deionized or distilled water. The product will immediately precipitate and your product will form super fine crystals. Using a slight vacuum will make the distillation temperature of the acetone a lot lower.
@Jeffery epstein having problems separating the ETN from the nitrating solution one guy says distilled water and coffee filters, but see something about ethanol to do it.
@@SSS-cp1op You heat the ethanol to about 65C, remove it from heat, add your ETN, it will melt into the Ethanol. Pour this into an ice water bath with some sodium bicarb added bath, its called crashing, a powder will precipitate when it hits the cold water. Filter that powder from the water and viola you have a recrystallized product. Recryst makes it much more safe
I'm trying the synthesis with nitric acid / sulfuric acid and Erythrol but the solution is clear of erythrol and ETN does not form, can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I'm using the Bitchute video as a reference.
By using strong acid (sulf+nitric)and temp.not higher than 4 Celsius,. Efficiency 160% before recristalization. Detonator hmtd. I learned something, but you must have at least A level knowledge on CHEMISTRY and always try to make very small quantity, and keep notes. Explosion gives orange flame without smoke.
How much did the final product end up weighing?
Can this process work with 98% sulfuric acid + fuming nitric acid combo? Or does it have to be AN? I thought the reason why they don't use fuming nitric acid for nitration is due to danger of temperature rise that could cause runway reaction... At the end of this process when you get that goopy mixture done, do you just pour water in there to filter out precipitated ETN?
Yeah you could totally use nitric acid, I ratios may be a lil different but not too drastically different. Also make sure you cool all your acid down in the fridge/freezer etc before synthesis. It also helps to keep the nitrating erythritol in an ice bath. Make sure temp doesn’t really dip below 5’C (41F) but doesn’t get over 20’C (69F) . I normally keep it around 10 but everyone has their own preferred temp.
Yes that would be the most efficient way of doing it. Chill then disolve the erythratol in nitric plus 10% sulfuric first than slowly add the rest of sulfuric acid to complete the esterfication reaction. 🤓
If your going to be using nitric acid you might as well make petn
Sounds like u already know the answer....
@@TheFireGoose for mixed acid i like to use 0c to 5c or else it goes to shit
Looks great, not bad at all. Lovely delicious ETN syrup, mmmm…
It will cure what ails you
Especially if that's high blood pressure LOL
@@improvisedchaos6355 I'm moving to Texas or nevada or something
@IMPROVISED CHAOS
Europe bans Sulfuric acid over 40% and restricticts to 15% without a license.
Holy fuk if you download the full document. You will find that a huge list of other chemicals are super restricted and banned
sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=155798
@@improvisedchaos6355 Even potassium nitrate and aluminum powder are now under some watchlist or something
What was the yield on that?
good job!
Is this synthesis similar to TATP by putting the chemicals together in a chilled environment
Chilling something is pretty common in chemistry.
It needs to be around 10C° for the reaction to take place correctly, it needs to be cooled but not too much.
@@TheExplosiveGuy did anyone tested this?
@@fudes587 it's been thoroughly tested, and actually you get better yields at around 15°C, cooling it too much will result in extremely poor yields. I wouldn't go any higher than 15 and any lower than 10.
With that one it does not really matter, chilling supposedly makes a bigger molecule, adding a little bit of tin chloride forms the tetameric molecule instead of the trimeric molecular structure. The dimer is stupidly sensitive, it is formed when the heat is abouve about 30 deg C. The trimer is formed at 15 deg C or less. The tetramer is formed at 5 to 10 deg C in the presence of SnCl2 🤓.
Wait so no nitric acid needed?? I hope not because that shit is expensive.
Nitric acid acts as a oxidizer,nitric acid is also used in TNT and Nitroglicerin
how the final product dries?
What mix order? mix first?
Arent you afraid that you get a "runaway"? I wouldnt dare get it about 10 degrees C, its best to keep it between 0C and 10C. 0C is ice in water. I do get that you get bigger yields. But there are other ways to get even bigger ETN yields. But you need chemistry glass for that. It is described in the patent of Erythritol tetranitrate. It also helps in getting the sugar alcohol to a powder, that really improves yield to, and preferably get it as a powder, grains are really a 2nd choice.
He, you best be sure you wont get caught. The guy going by the name "nuclear rabbit" got into trouble when he set of 13kg of ANNM. They searched his house, and found a fridge full of stuff, and then i got in trouble. :( So its best to try to be legal, or at least read on how to get legal. I know that farmers use explosives to clear land of rocks and tree stumps so getting a license should be something worth considering.
ETN is pretty good stuff. Its a bit sensitive though.
Greetings,
Jeff
You can get the erythritol tetranitrate reaction using ammonium nitrate and sulfuric acid and of course erythritol all the way up to 20 degrees Celsius and still be in the clear as long as you have a ice bath that had salt added to it to bring the temperature down standing by I get the best yield if I keep the reaction between 15 and 18 degrees Celsius I typically add almost all of the ammonium nitrate first by itself before adding the erythritol while the reaction vessel is in the ice bath it never gets above 8 to 10 degrees Celsius then when I start adding the erythritol I remove the reaction vessel from the ice bath (just temporarily) & I add erythritol until I get the charge too around 18 degrees Celsius, i then put the reaction vessel back in the ice bath and add enough erythritol to keep the reaction around 18 degrees Celsius no more than 20 degrees Celsius you want to have all the components added to the acid within 30 to 45 minutes sometimes it takes a while if you're doing a big reaction if I do a small reaction I can get all the components added within 15 minutes while keeping the temperature in the appropriate range, I've only had one run away during the countless times I've synthesized etn and all that happened was the etn charge turned a dark yellow and started off-gassing that horrendous toxic gas at that point I had a crash bucket handy with sodium bicarbonate in it and a bunch of ice water and I just dropped the entire vessel into that killing the reaction immediately you should know that I use 99.9% pure anhydrous ammonium nitrate also i use confectioner's erythritol meaning it is powderized like powdered sugar, I also ball mill the ammonium nitrate to get it as powderized as the erythritol, also I use a magnetic stir plate but have recently learned how to complete the synthesis without one and also without a thermometer but mind you I have much experience with etn and can tell the average temperature by touch this does not get me the greatest yield but I still produce quality powerful etn also you can use "Zep 90%+ concentration sulfuric acid drain opener" in replace of the standard lab grade or industrial-grade 98% sulfuric acid your yield will be slightly affected from this but the deep red color of the Zep does not transfer to the etn and you will still yield a pure white to off-white product
@@improvisedchaos6355 So what did you do different that made the ETN synthesis runaway? Did you leave it too long on its own? Im getting a feeling that it has the tendency that it runsaway if you keep it unstirred too long.
I would not try it without a thermometer.
You should try the method of first making fuming nitric acid with the ammonium nitrate and the sulfuric acid. And then try the patent. It should bring you more yield than you have now. Its not so low tech. But what is so cool about getting yellow hands like a canary and inhaling toxic fumes? Also use chemistry glass from banggood or aliexpress, its cheap. You should get the "zubrick organic chemistry" book its free for downloading on archive.org. It explains on how to use chemistry glass, and some more things on dissolving.
Greetings,
Jeff
@@jeffjefferson2676 when I had the run away I was making etn for the first time and did not realize that the stir bar on the magnetic stir plate had came off center and was not spinning anymore because I could not see through the charge, but that's what I do I mix the ammonium nitrate and sulfuric acid first and then add the erythritol I normally get 2.5 to 2.7 grams of erythritol tetranitrate for every gram of erythritol which is a better conversion rate than most chemists get in a laboratory setting and also how you synthesize it determines the strength of the etn when you pull it out of the charge and neutralize it all those variables come into play when concerning the strength of the etn
@@improvisedchaos6355 Its been a while since ive done the math, but that is a large yield. I dont know what the theoretical 100% yield was. But it was something around that number if i remember correctly. Im not going to count all the atoms again and do the math; but are you sure thats what youve got? I remember that my yield was so so (lower temperatures) and i thought well, maybe the laboratory patented way is better. They also work with even higher temperatures, but to be sure, you should read it yourself.
When you just need a big booster charge for ammoniumnitrate based explosives. ETN and the way you are doing it is definitely the way to go. It the nitromethane part that is actually the hardest ingredient to get/make. Where do you get it? Do you do a synthesis?
Greetings,
Jeff
@@jeffjefferson2676 I live in Texas and I can buy 100% nitromethane from hyperfuels outside of Houston Texas
Any alternatives for coffee filters because i still can't buy them.
Im gona make som etn any tips?
Also how long does it take for the H2SO4 + NH4NO3 to react?
It starts reacting as soon as u put the charge in the acid I would add half the amount of ammonium nitrate first after I would combine the erythritol with the remaining ammonium nitrate and add it in together. This will keep the temperature from spiking in the beginning of the reaction
About the filters...after u crash the charge make sure there is enough water to dilute the acid enough for you to use maybe cheese cloth or a few layers of a synthetic cloth like from an old shirt but make sure it's NOT cotton sulfuric acid loves eating cotton! Lol
First crush all the ammonium nitrate, add it slowly to the sulfuric acid. Keep the temperature low(below 10C) so you wont have a runaway(!!!) with red NOx fumes. When it is all mixed, add the powdered Erythritol, a little bit at a time (I like to keep it below 10C), so not to get a runaway(!!!!!). And when it is all mixed, you can leave it for a little bit. Then add the mixture to a big bucket of water, and let the crystals form. Let the crystals go too the bottom, and throw away the majority of the liquid. Then add more water, get cleaning soda to get he pH to 7. Throw the majority of the liquid down the drain, and filter the rest through vacuum glass filter preferably. Otherwise gravity filter with a coffee filter. Now you have got pretty stable ETN. You can recrystallize it by first dissolving the ETN in acetone. Add water to the mixture to precipitate the ETN out and let it form crystals.
If you just want to cast the ETN, you can heat water, put a glass jar in the water, put the ETN in the jar. Heat until it melts. You can now cast the ETN, or you can add (pure!!!) paraffin to get a more stable cast able ETN. They use that paraffin/ETN mixture in RPG 7 rocket warheads ive read.
First read on explosives before you do anything with it. You can only blow your hands off/kill yourself once. So be very careful. Also, there is no life after this one, so dont even think about blowing yourself or someone else up. Get a life, and be happy. :)
Explosives are fun, but you want to be safe.
Greetings,
Jeff
@@jeffjefferson2676 just wondering would the reaction still take place with other nitrates such as potassium or lead nitrates in substitute of ammonium nitrate? I mean i was gonna just try it but maybe you can spare me the trouble?
@@deralikbalik9610 Its the cheapest nitrate around. Use that ammonium nitrate. If you want to know more, go study chemistry.
Greetings,
Jeff
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Can sodium nitrate be used instead of ammonium nitrate with same molar ratios?
No
Yes
Noice
can you use pottasium nitrate or insted of sulfuric acid use hydrochloric acid 31%
You can use potassium nitrate instead but can’t use hydrochloric acid instead of sulfuric. If you have trouble getting sulfuric acid you can try extract and distill/purify the sulfuric acid in car batteries, generally the concentration of that is around 20-30% but it is very contaminated with lead and stuff hence the need for purification. Also if you just search hard online you could probably get some, it’s really hard to get where I live but just out of sheer will and the refusal to quit looking I managed to get myself 15l of 96% sulfuric acid. Good luck!
@J R UK, what about you?
Can you instruct me on how to prepare ETN, I want to do an experiment on them
Sciencemadness.
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@@timeisajourney6062 wot
@@energeticpyro209Do you have any way to detonate etn, I clicked with tatp and failed
@@timeisajourney6062 first of all! do not even think about peroxides... tatp is a death wish! For etn You can use high voltage ebw or spark gap, thermal shock, a powerful flash powder or safe primaries.
I did MHN 8260 m / s this way, it was successful.
Mannitol is pretty pretty good ive read. Its about the same deal. It has a melting point though. So its not too good for casting. Casting ETN is doable. You can mix it with paraffin, it helps to desensitize it.
Greetings,
Jeff
p.s.
check out the links in my youtube channels about section.
@@jeffjefferson2676 casting etn at home is a really really really bad idea...
@@energeticpyro209 What does the place matter where you cast it?? Impregnated in paraffin its a lot more stable. Just be careful not to overheat it, or drop it. It should be good. Just dont make to big of a batch.
Greetings,
Jeff
p.s.
I dont make explosives anymore, i like to keep my hands, but even then. It really did look safe.
@@jeffjefferson2676 hello Jeff, I'm new to this hobby and would like to know how are the steps to produce ETN, it will be my first experience with explosives could you help me?
@@Nene-zk1hj Basically you need to understand that you need a strong acid sulfuric acid (H2SO4, draincleaner, make sure this is in the draincleaner) and a nitrate donor (ammonium nitrate, NH4NO3), and add the ammonium nitrate to the acid slowly. Make sure the ammonium nitrate is very small (grinded), and add little bits at a time. The temperature should be kept under 10C, or else a "runaway" could follow. If that happens the experiment fails and you get a lot of red noxious fumes (NO2) of nitrogendioxide. Once all the ammoniumnitrate is added to the dihydrogensulfate(sulfuric acid), start adding the erytrytol, make sure you get the powdered one, or grind it really small. Keep the temperature under 10C or you will get a runaway, and you dont need that. Keep stirring (with a glass rod or something like that, a glass thermometer could break..).
You need to have more of the acid nitrate mixture than you would think you will need when you do the "stoichiometry" on paper. Be sure to look up stoichiometry and understand what it means. Also learn how to transfer weight to mols and density of a material to ml etc. You are better of downloading a copy of "Chemistry, McMurry" on "PDFDRIVE". Learn the first 2 chapters, and then start to do some experiments. Its way better to know to much than to blow your hands off.
Downloading "maple" on "the pirate bay" will give you an edge with doing math. It will ask a lot to get to know the book, and to do maple well. But i cannot advice you to start off with making an explosive if you never did chemistry before.
Maybe reading "Zubrick-Organic Chemistry Laboratory Survival Manual", is a good start on getting to know the procedures on how to do an experiment.
When you have reacted all the Erythrytol (the temperature did not go up anymore for about 15 minutes), you can add a lot of water, and filter the material. Then add some more water, and then add disodiumcarbonate(Na2CO3, its washing soda and its cheap). Make sure you add the disodiumcarbonate untill the Ph is 7(a Ph meter is cheap on aliexpress or banggood).
Now dry the ETN, put a small piece in aluminum foil, and hit it with a hammer. It should give a bang.
Always wear eye and ear protection.
ETN is not sensitive to fire, and will just burn. You need a primary, and you need to sensitize the ETN with matchhead powder to detonate it reliably. Be sure you do not blow your fingers off. 1 gram can blow your hands to pieces, and leave you scarred for life. Be responsible. Also there are a lot of ETN videos out there. When you are more advanced with chemistry and have read the labmanual, the "patent" of erythrytoltetranitrate. You can make this compount with labglass you can buy that too off banggood or aliexpress.
ETN can be made in a glass jar, and you do not need any labglas at all. It can be as low tech as a jar, draincleaner, washingsoda, grassfertilizer, icecubes, and dietsugar. And of course water.
Dont do something dumb with the ETN, you could regret it later.
Greetings,
Jeff
請問有食譜嗎？
to neutralize residual acid used what? distilled water? sodium bircabonate? he can talk?
Personally I used deionized water with a sodium bicarbonate 5% solution to start and then a deionized water to follow
Remember high pH is just as bad as a low PH you want to get a negative reading on a strip
When I got around a 7 I knew I was in a good area 7 is a negative reading
@@improvisedchaos6355 ok
thank you for the information.
Wash with distilled water. Than wash with 5% sodium bicarbonate. Next wash with destilled water in excess adding HCl till ph strip stays neutral. Next disolve in acetone and add 20% ethanol, distill off the acetone until it becomes cloudy then dump at once into deionized or distilled water. The product will immediately precipitate and your product will form super fine crystals. Using a slight vacuum will make the distillation temperature of the acetone a lot lower.
can this be done with 70% nitric acid
You need sulfuric acid, but adding nitric acid gives a higher yield
Does it work with potassium nitrate
Yes, it just clumps up more and gets thicker.
Will 90-93 % sulfuric acid work
@Jeffery epstein can I distill 90?
@Jeffery epstein having problems separating the ETN from the nitrating solution one guy says distilled water and coffee filters, but see something about ethanol to do it.
@@SSS-cp1op You heat the ethanol to about 65C, remove it from heat, add your ETN, it will melt into the Ethanol. Pour this into an ice water bath with some sodium bicarb added bath, its called crashing, a powder will precipitate when it hits the cold water. Filter that powder from the water and viola you have a recrystallized product. Recryst makes it much more safe
I'm trying the synthesis with nitric acid / sulfuric acid and Erythrol but the solution is clear of erythrol and ETN does not form, can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
I'm using the Bitchute video as a reference.
By using strong acid (sulf+nitric)and temp.not higher than 4 Celsius,. Efficiency 160% before recristalization. Detonator hmtd. I learned something, but you must have at least A level knowledge on CHEMISTRY and always try to make very small quantity, and keep notes. Explosion gives orange flame without smoke.
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