Presocratics Part 2: Mathematics, Atoms, and Logic

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • Continuing our examination of the Presocratic Greek philosophers, we examine some early formulations of mathematics, atomism, and logic. This will include figures from the Eleatic school, including Zeno and his famous paradoxes, and then moving on to the pluralists such as Anaxagoras and Empedocles. This leads to the Abdera school and Democritus, for our first conception of the atom, as well as the Sophists, the famous itinerant thinkers.
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Комментарии • 74

  • @LPVince94
    @LPVince94 Год назад +23

    Only Zeno would try to disprove movement with movement.
    And this guy is remembered thousends of years after his death kids. If he can do it, so can you.

    • @AriaHarmony
      @AriaHarmony Год назад +2

      Honestly I wonder if he meant it more like making fun of / demonstrate how it's possible to use logic to lead to illogical conclusions, kinda like how Schrodinger made his cat dead & alive at the same time thought experiment to illustrate how ridiculous quantum mechanics can seem from our non quantum perspective.

    • @623-x7b
      @623-x7b 5 месяцев назад

      The paradox assumes people walk a half and then a half again so on so fourth... towards their destination but I don't carry a ruler with me.

  • @philipparker5291
    @philipparker5291 Год назад +1

    Finished my masters in philosophy in 2014, and I really like how these series refreshes my memory of it. I devoted both my theses to Kant, one of which was geared towards his criticism of attempting to determine the existence of God. I really hope Dave will read up on that and explains this as well. I still think his criticism is on point and am curious how Dave would assess it.

  • @anbesivam6426
    @anbesivam6426 Год назад +3

    Sir please make full complex numbers , sequrlence and series , statistics and probability videos in mathematics playlist

  • @desfurria6232
    @desfurria6232 Год назад +1

    These have been very enjoyable.

  • @623-x7b
    @623-x7b 5 месяцев назад

    I find it funny how heaps of philosophers kept thinking everything must be made from one thing but could not agree on it being called 'stuff.' Name a single material thing not made from stuff and that the cosmos itself is from stuff made what else were they looking for? Things? A simple play on words but what are words but things and so distinction was created in the zooming into the cosmos its "parts" perhaps we're going about things backwards and ought to zoom out or look at both perspectives simultaneously - something being incorrect is as much information as something being correct. Yin and Yang kinda thing. Mysticism. The universe seems to have symmetry at least.

  • @mehrshadgafarzadeh2944
    @mehrshadgafarzadeh2944 Год назад

    I always wandered how and why did they let the religion away and inquired nature almost without it?

  • @TheCosmicGuy0111
    @TheCosmicGuy0111 Год назад

    Hmm cool

  • @frankpulmanns6685
    @frankpulmanns6685 Год назад +6

    Those ancient greeks were some smart cookies. Anyone claiming ancient peoples of whatever ethnicity couldn't possibly have achieved anything should really take a course on how much of our current knowledge is based on and was predicted by these people. And I don't mean just the greeks.

    • @mikotagayuna8494
      @mikotagayuna8494 Год назад +3

      This is true especially in their architecture. Just because we don't know how they were made does it mean that they were incapable of building them so...aliens.

  • @GetMoGaming
    @GetMoGaming Год назад +19

    Why they have names like "Touchindeez" and "Tickledeez"?

    • @j2323j
      @j2323j Год назад +4

      Says
      GetmoGaming lmfao 🤣

    • @mikotagayuna8494
      @mikotagayuna8494 Год назад +5

      Many of these names have since been Latinized. Their original Greek names are quite different.

    • @FlatEarthKiller
      @FlatEarthKiller Год назад +1

      uhh because uhh- aaaaagh

    • @easports2618
      @easports2618 Год назад +2

      @@FlatEarthKilleraughhhhhhhhh

    • @lifeisstr4nge
      @lifeisstr4nge Год назад +2

      Deeznuts

  • @thorstormlord
    @thorstormlord Год назад +8

    Great video series Professor. Thank you for sharing our philosophy and history with the world. Hope you make more and take some deep dives

  • @uncleanunicorn4571
    @uncleanunicorn4571 Год назад +5

    Zeno's Paradox is not a paradox from the simple observation that objects in motion will indeed hit other objects given enough time. But apparently they were not experimentalists. Thus, it amounts to a lot of mental masturbation until you get to empiricism

    • @jursamaj
      @jursamaj Год назад

      Indeed, much of what Aristotle declared is known to be false, because he thought he could think his way to conclusions that empirical evidence proved wrong. Logic and reasoning are useful, but you have to have the raw material of evidence for them to say anything about the real world.

  • @zephyrquasar
    @zephyrquasar Год назад +2

    yo

  • @FreedomandRights4US
    @FreedomandRights4US Год назад +4

    Didn't expect to wake up to philosophy on prof Dave's channel. Nice surprise

    • @cygnustsp
      @cygnustsp Год назад

      Dave needs to do a video on constitutional law 😁

  • @ivoryas1696
    @ivoryas1696 4 месяца назад +1

    1:40
    Ah, yes. I _love_ reading Ben Shap-xeno!

  • @breadfan7433
    @breadfan7433 Год назад +1

    Hmmm....
    Slapping Zeno in the face should be impossible according to Zeno. I'd be willing to take part in that experiment, just to remind Zeno that the slap he just got was surely an illusion.
    In general, slapping someone in the face is an appropriate response to someone who disregards empirical evidence in order to defend the conclusions they reached solely by thinking.
    For example, if you are a solipsist (of the kind who believes that other minds don't exist) you should not object to getting slapped in the face, as it was your own mind which thought of and executed that slap.
    Same if you're someone who claims that prayers get answered. You pray that I don't slap you, and we test if prayer works. You never know, maybe I will concede that prayer works and the slap you just got was not a slap, after the experiment is conducted, of course.
    So, slap away, kids, for science and philosophy!

  • @waelfadlallah8939
    @waelfadlallah8939 Год назад +3

    Best presentations professor Dave 😊

  • @ildebrandon6553
    @ildebrandon6553 Год назад +1

    Grazie ancora una volta Gesù Cristo della chimica

  • @ZillaGaming-k6r
    @ZillaGaming-k6r Год назад +2

    Bros name was Epicurus,that's epic

  • @jonerlucas3933
    @jonerlucas3933 Год назад +1

    Funny how the shape of the statue of Pythagoras at 8:13 slightly resembles a triangle.

  • @jeffbarnard3050
    @jeffbarnard3050 Год назад

    Cut your hair!!! Hippy!! LOL Good episode! other than the hair thing. :)

  • @wheresmyeyebrow1608
    @wheresmyeyebrow1608 Год назад +2

    Zeno was a gangster

  • @건강샘
    @건강샘 Год назад +1

    Thank you for good content.😊

  • @alexandrabemova9514
    @alexandrabemova9514 10 месяцев назад

    In this playlist are 5 videos that can't be played, why they are censored and what is their topic?

  • @NZRic001
    @NZRic001 Год назад

    Hi Professor Dave and followers… I am just changing tact and hoping to pass on that Physics Girl (another awesome science creator) host has been bed ridden with long Covid for months and is not well at all… she has been hospitalised with CFS as a result of the long Covid and is under full time care by family…. this is an unsolicited comment but I know many, like me, are followers of both of these wonderful and inspiring people… sorry to of put anyone…

  • @obviousmaths4368
    @obviousmaths4368 Год назад

    Gwyneth Paltrow ski crash trial had two experts arguing over a factor of 1/2 in applying Newton's laws of motion to the force needed to break ribs. One of them has made a massive howler, but which one? This was crucial evidence in the trial and the experts effectively cancelled each other out. Can you take a look at this?

  • @marknieuweboer8099
    @marknieuweboer8099 Год назад

    According to Bertrand Russell Democritus came to his model via a thought experiment: curting an apple with a knife.

  • @kingofallfrogs
    @kingofallfrogs Год назад

    There is always a universe where everything you are doing is airing on live TV and the world is losing its mind because it's on a huge fucking network

  • @ThomasAndersonbsf
    @ThomasAndersonbsf Год назад

    interesting that they I guess chose the "elements of nature" based on observed states of matter, from solid "earth" liquid "water" gas "air or wind" and plasma "fire" lol

  • @glennpearson9348
    @glennpearson9348 Год назад

    Imagine that. An impactful thinker doing a video on impactful thinkers.

  • @lolitaras22
    @lolitaras22 Год назад

    I like Democritus, he was an early polymath.

  • @christophergetchell6490
    @christophergetchell6490 Год назад +3

    Thank you for a bit of a refresher of some things that I learned in college almost 20 years ago!

  • @for_fox_aches
    @for_fox_aches Год назад

    Is autumn longer where you live?

  • @Rico-Suave_
    @Rico-Suave_ Год назад

    Watched all of it 8:12

  • @AriaHarmony
    @AriaHarmony Год назад

    I'm excited for this series! Thanks professor Dave 👍

  • @tutor_aj
    @tutor_aj Год назад +1

    I'm the first 😅

  • @nikhilPUD01
    @nikhilPUD01 Год назад

    And then abrahamic came. ☠️

  • @erikpadilla4572
    @erikpadilla4572 Год назад

    great vid

  • @nikhilPUD01
    @nikhilPUD01 Год назад

    I love Greeks and Romans
    ButAnd middle east man walking on water
    😂

  • @-JA-
    @-JA- Год назад

    👏👍

  • @Jonno_B251
    @Jonno_B251 Год назад +1

    Just stick to science this is all wrong

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  Год назад +1

      No, it isn’t, and I’ll cover whatever topics I please. Stay in your lane.

  • @christophersnedeker
    @christophersnedeker Год назад

    I feel this guy might be biased in favor of atheism.

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  Год назад +3

      I didn’t write these scripts.

    • @christophersnedeker
      @christophersnedeker Год назад

      ​@@ProfessorDaveExplainsAlso Zeno wasn't a presocratic. He was post Socrates.

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  Год назад +2

      @@christophersnedeker False. Also, nice deflection.

    • @Shadowman4710
      @Shadowman4710 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@christophersnedeker Which Zeno are you talking about? Zeno of Citium (founder of Stoicism) was post Socrates. Professor Dave was clearly referencing Zeno of Elea, who predates Socrates.

    • @ivoryas1696
      @ivoryas1696 4 месяца назад

      ​@@Shadowman4710
      Honestly, I looked it up and I was confused as to what he was talking about until I read your reply... so thanks. 👍🏾

  • @TheseNuts2
    @TheseNuts2 Год назад +1

    Idealistic monism is untestable speculation. I don't see much value in it.