My son who is the sweetest, non violent child you could ever meet and his medicine was changed and he literally almost stabbed my ex mother in law but thankfully his dad stepped in quick enough to stop it! He couldn't explain why or what happened. The doctor immediately stopped that med and he has never ever acted like that since and he just graduated highschool.
@Julie Ann I think that's a fair question to ask. Educating one another on possible side effects of medicine is great. And if someone is going to be open to give an example of a side effect its fair to know which medication may have caused it.
@@charlotteswebbing I kindly disagree with your comment to the woman asking. It's a fair question to ask if someone is mentioning a possible side effect from medicine that it is known the name of the medicine so that others can be aware of the possible effect it could cause someone.
She married a man who was in prison for torturing and killing his daughters cat and acts as though this would not harm or affect her daughter. She obviously put her “needs” over the children and this is what happened.
Ok, i didn't know all that, but wow . I couldn't even put a man who had disrespected me over my children. Actually, I couldn't imagine even being friendly to someone who killed a cat so nevermind but she is disgusting
Coming off these drugs, Ssri’s included, are an indescribable nightmare. The intrusive thoughts and rage are very hard to control. I’m currently going through this and it’s an absolute living nightmare. Praying for that family.
Ssri's are different from ADHD meds... And yes scary to come off of... ADHD meds are not nearly as addictive as ssri's ... I have taken both .. I never have a problem coming off of ADHD meds though . Except the normal ADHD grogginess
@ movementislife they can both be *highly* addictive, and both can be dangerous to both take and come off of. I’m glad you didn’t experience difficulty coming off ADHD meds, but countless others do. It can be life threatening not only to the one taking or coming off the medication, but also to those around them. This comment section is filled with people sharing their experience of it happening to them or their child in relation to taking or stopping ADHD meds. There is a reason ADHD meds are sold as street drugs. They are known to be highly addictive. That doesn’t mean everyone who takes them becomes addicted or has bad or life threatening/dangerous experiences, but many do, and children are no exception. It’s chemically altering the brain, and in some individuals, such as the heartbreaking case discussed in this video, it can have VERY dire consequences, and that is never something that should be downplayed. Those taking these medications, or the parents of children taking these medications, need to understand just how volatile and dangerous the risks can be, in order to adequately monitor the situation to prevent stories like the one in this video from happening. Unfortunately not all doctors take the care and attention to explain these things, and many write scripts without giving adequate warning or preparing the patient/parents for what could occur, and just how catastrophic the risks could be. Fortunately many doctors have stopped prescribing ADHD meds like candy (like was the case when I was growing up; thankfully I never needed them, though knew others that did and had horrible experiences), but there are still doctors who do treat it like candy and give it freely without proper warning or consideration. I pray this brave mother’s heartbreaking story opens the eyes of parents who have children on these medications or are considering putting their children on them. They CAN help some children, and sometimes are the only option to help a child function, but oftentimes there are other solutions that should be exhausted first, and if ADHD medication is tried, it needs to be done with extreme hyper vigilance and awareness to what can go wrong, and just how quickly it can happen.
I can confirm the issues her daughter had. I was on ADHD medication (Adderall) in college, and as my doctor increased the dose, it made me extremely angry all the time, typically for no reason. I screamed at friends, I screamed at family, I even got into major arguments with my professors which led to me getting suspended. Then when I discovered it was the high dose that led to that behavior I immediately cut the dose in half, and those issues stopped. I feel for this family tremendously.
I was dating someone who was on meds..I wonder if it’s the reason why he got really angry at me and ended things. It was thee strangest thing I’ve ever experienced because I’m a super mellow person. I was like whoooa why is he sooo intense.
When I watched the body cam footage my heart stopped beating for a second hearing this poor mama's pain. I hope to God she gets the help she needs and isn't just locked away and throw away the key.
She appears to be a Single mom bc she is hiding the fact that she married and brought a violent convict into the home, and wants to pretend that had nothing to do with this. Look up Levi LYDA.
About 2 or 3 months after stopping my ADHD med I locked myself in a closet bc I was afraid I was gonna kill my dog. It was everything I could do to not kill her and I didn’t understand why. I had some very small morsel of something that told me something was happening and these weren’t “real” feelings. That morsel saved my dog and me. Scariest think I’ve ever experienced.
I had a similar experience but with my mom. I made her tie me up and take me to emergency room because I didn’t want to hurt her. I was later diagnosed with OCD and was having intrusive thoughts. ERP saved me from that misery. Best of luck to you. I’m sorry you went through that. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
@@CharlotteIvyLeon yup!! Diagnosed with OCD. Much better and never had another experience like that. I’m sorry you went through that as well. Thank you for your kindness 🙏🏽
Omg that's terrifying I'm thankful for that little piece of reason you were blessed with . I am against these kids being on meds I see nothing that proves these drugs ate anything but mind altering .We're you on meds and how long ?
they’re safe and effective in the vast majority of people with ADHD. this girl definitely had other underlying issues to trigger what happened, it’s not a typical side effect at all
As a therapist I’ve learned that if ADHD medicine isn’t working it may be a sign of another disorder that can mimic ADHD such as trauma. I’ve seen adhd meds work very well with true adhd and for others have bad side effects. It’s so important to get the proper diagnosis. Also, if you notice negative side effects you should def let the doctor know so they can either change the dosage or try something new.
Well said! I too have seen patients react poorly to adhd meds when adhd isn’t the proper diagnosis. I would be curious to know more about this family’s history.
Yes! I'm a nursing student and in pharmacology it's emphasized that medicating a misdiagnosed patient can be detrimental, regardless of the medication. ADHD presents almost identical to other diagnoses. For someone with true ADHD, at the correct dose, it would never cause this. Something deeper is going on and scapegoating ADHD medication is harmful. Those of us with ADHD face enough stigma about medication as it is.
This is devastating but it needs to be used as a lesson. There is a serious problem of over-diagnosing ADHD in children these days. Thus leading to over-medicating with the incorrect type of drug.
U don’t know if this was a wrong diagnosis. It’s the mother physician and the kid who decided to get off the medication, when it was workin* perfectly the first 5 years. Chose to stop the meds just to try to be off the meds. Who knows we will never know the truth on how she was taken off the medication by her mom. Such as was it abruptly and le if specific warnings directions were followed as doctors always warn and labels and pharmacists warn too. This could have been prevented by simply following protocol…. Science may point out that the meds were stopped abruptly after 5 years and the off on choice the mother made isn’t good. Common knowledges. Simple internet search . Those meds are potent!
it’s only going to get worse unfortunately. each generation we were getting shorter and shorter attention spans due to the rapid developments in technology. it’s one of the downsides we haven’t figured out how to prevent/treat properly yet because it’s a relatively “new” phenomenon
I’m a Retired Navy Vet, who has PTSD/MDD/BPD/Anxiety along with insomnia and the medications I’ve been on throughout 14 yrs can be very tricky to your mental psyche if you aren’t fully aware of self and reality. I’ve had to stop taking some because of the intense suicidal ideations, racing thoughts, verbal outburst, manic moments to night terrors, flashbacks and sleep paralysis… There’s nothing more horrifying than being afraid of yourself, knowing what damage you can do to things, others and yourself. We all must educate ourselves on these medications that are prescribed to us, because knowing the side effects beforehand can really help and be instant warning signs to stop taking them. The withdrawal is a hard battle, which I’m dealing with now. It’s just that the brain/mind is a very powerful thing and We have to outsmart it. I’ve been in therapy for over 12yrs and I highly suggest having a therapist, psychologist, psychiatrist, social worker. It’s vital and beneficial (in my opinion). Being transparent/honest with myself has worked in my favor because I WANT THE HELP & I’m Fighting for MY LIFE. It’s an internal battle and I’m praying for ALL who are Fighting too. Those who have loved ones/friends who are battling mental health I beg you to be a listening ear, check-in on them, get them out the house and around people, let them know they are loved, wanted, needed and have a purpose. Please do not make light of what they are dealing with…Trust me, this all makes a huge difference. #MentalHealthMonth
If I could hug you I would. I lost a lifetime friend to 5uicide 6 years ago . I just commented alot of what you just said. I actually cried reading this. I found my friend. It was bloody and violent and no one should ever see that. I had PTSD too. I sell real estate. I would start to panic if I had to open closed doors. It was scary. I am in trauma therapy. I go for me now. I can talk freely and sometimes that is all you need. My therapist can't prescribe meds. The first therapist did. 2 days of whatever that crap was made everything worse. I couldn't even function. If my therapist thought I needed something he would call my doctor. I was given Xanax for about 2 weeks. I couldn't sleep or shut down my brain. You are spot on. Thank you for your sacrifices to our country. My son is coming up on a year being in the Navy. Its amazing how they have made my boy a man. He will probably stay in and retire like you. He loves it.
I also talked about my survivors of S loss. I encourage everyone to sit in on some. That is where you will find truth. 6 years and the increase of parents coming is shocking. Losing many females after graduation. They don't have this huge support group anymore and it hits them hard. I'm warning people as much as possible. Crisis is coming in many forms. I'm watching it happen with 5uicide for sure.
@@bethanywhite877 …Thank You sooooo much for your response. I honestly wasn’t expecting anyone to comment, more so read the lengthy msg I posted. But I felt compelled to do so since I’m living in my truth through full transparency. Panic attacks are no joke, I’ve recently had one that felt like I was having a heart attack…I couldn’t breathe, racing heart, lightheaded, hearing began to faint…It was the scariest thing I’ve ever experienced in life. I called 911, barely able to breathe…Just thinking about it now tears me up. Just trying to push through anxiety/panic attacks is a struggle because you don’t know what’s going on, what’s stressing your body. Bethany, continue with Trauma therapy…as challenging as it can be, it works. I’m in my second intensive PTSD trauma program and I’m awaiting for another 3-4 day a week program to start this month. One can not have enough help when you are wanting to help yourself. Like you, I can’t stand closed spaces..some reason that’s where intrusive thoughts linger. Meds…I’ve tried just about everything and go back n forth with my docs who think they know what works for me, when it doesn’t. April I was stuck in bed, forced myself to sleep to avoid all negative thoughts. Trying to find ways to lose the weight these medications have on our bodies. I’m sure you can relate 🙃 In closing, I’m sending virtual hugs your way and praying for your sons safety as he serves in the Navy. I know all too well the stressors one can experience while serving our country…I just hope you tell your son to seek help when the stress begins. He will need that personal relationship with someone he can trust, hear/listen to him and help rationalize things. Nothing like being amongst 5000 people on a ship and feel alone.🫶🏽
This tragedy is heartbreaking. We need to find better ways as a society to help these kids rather than throw meds with these horrible long lasting side effects.
this is such a disrespectful and unempathic thing to say when i wasn’t on meds i was the most violent kid ever i would inflict pain on my parents and i’ve never been more happy on meds so if you aren’t someone who lives with learning disabilities don’t talk about how meds are bad please and thank you
@@Ana-mz2jx I'm sorry but you misunderstood the comment. My life depends on medication as well, but I think what the op was trying to say is we need to explore new technologies and more non invasive ways to help these kids along side the medication .
absolutely! meds are a last resort. I see it all too often in the clinic unfortunately, 5 min apps with a midlevel and they walk out with a script. i am heartbroken for the mama
@@amybe3 i think she meant as a blanket statement, need to not give these meds out to people who truly do not need them, spend more time with patients, diagnose correctly and only medicate for the correct diagnosis
Actually. It’s the mothers job to follow medication directions and to research. U cannot sue the med comp. Warnings are listed all over the labels! Being on adhd meds on off on off should be closely monitored snd who knows if she was taken off the meds abruptly. Of course we will not ever know. Think the mom will admit to exactly how the dose was stopped? We will not know the truth, but science will dictate what happened in the girls brain due to reactions from being take off the meds. She was fine w the meds for 5 years before the mom and girl decided to get off the meds just to see how she’d do… other issues at hand. Horrific situation.
She married LEVI LYDA. She was not caring for or protecting her child. She was laying with a violent, animal torturing psycho and making him a stepfather and having more kids with him. She is culpable.
My daughter was around 6-7 when she was diagnosed with ADHD and when the doctor told us what the medicine side affects were, we couldn't believe it, so we chose not to medicate her and got her an IEP to help with school and we just dealt with her at home. She's now 14 and unless she gets really excited, she is good. It was hard sometimes, but I would never put my child on medication that causes the side effects that we were told about
That's wonderful! My mom also refused to medicate my brother and me. I've managed my adhd better and better over the years without medication...learning the tools to cope and very thankful she stood her ground. I know its not easy.
@@vickiefinney6073 I will say this, it only gets worse in mid-life, like really bad! I was never diagnosed but I know I have it & many women like myself question early dementia but it's actually ADHD with the estrogen dipping it makes the executive functioning worse. I'm a former psychotherapist & a very sensitive person with respect to any medication so I've not taken anything though I know I've had it since childhood. Girls weren't diagnosed in my day.
Agreed.. Sad it seems almost everyone in US is diagnosed with some sort of mental illness or behavioral disease - ADHD, PPD, PPP, bipolar, depression, anxiety, etc. Americans are being over diagnosed and overmedicated. 😢
I saw the body cam footage and for 12yrs old she used more curse words in that 10 min video than I do an entire year. She also yelled "I don't know why I did it mom, it was some demonic sh$@" This entire thing is heart wrenching. Can't imagine what that entire family is going through. 😢
Most of our 12 year olds are saying curse words. We just don't usually know it because they're not saying them in front of us. So I am not entirely sure why that was your main take away of that body cam footage. At first i felt outrage as a mama...knowing what she did...but the longer it went on....the more broken I became for not only her but the whole situation. I cannot imagine living through this. Not as the mom. Not as this little girl. It is horrific.
@jlcollins7673 The cursing is not a main takeaway, but there is an issue there not entirely to be blamed on the drugs. That little girl has behaviors in her that very well are possibly exacerbated by the drugs. If a 12 yr old is cursing like that because of what is picked up online, then online use should be monitored strictly by the parent(s). This is a tragic and cautionary tale of guarding your kids in all manners and raising them in the way they should go cannot be taken lightly. If so, there will be a root that is harder and harder to get out once it is allowed to grow. Be well and be at peace.
I can because the daughter is innocent - I should of been there to protect her, If this was my daughter firstly I'd take the blame for everything. She's too young to know what's she's done.
Calm down she is trying to make sense of why her own daughter stabbed her own brother she lost Two kids here clearly she is saying her daughter had issues prior she said she cut her wrist and had been going through mood changes she is trying to understand why as well.
You cannot say that.. those medications affect people differently… there are side affects. To sit back & judge from your keyboard as though you know this family… know this little girl. I wouldn’t for a second rule out the meds. 5 years on a medication then they took her off… there’s no telling what it did to her body chemistry. Not to mention the other things being administered i.e. injected these days with zero trial periods…
Your kidding me right you can clearly see this mother is broken over this she basically lost two kids that night one dead one arrested for murdering her little brother she is trying to get to the why and what happened she wants to know why her daughter did this clearly her daughter had some issues all you can say is she's looking to sue while on live TV emotional and clearly heartbroken
I was once put on a medication and just after one dose I had thoughts of harming others. They were not my own thoughts and I immediately got help. How could a child realise what was happening. I just breaks my ❤
This is terrifying. So many meds have mental side effects. Chantix for quitting smoking is a big one that causes suicidal thoughts. I used over the counter affrin my dr recommended for sinuses and it made me super angry for no reason. Extreme irritability and anger. I stopped it right away. Scary part was my husband had to tell me I had no idea.
@L i just commented in this section about chantix, is that what your father took? Im so sorry you guys experienced that. I am supposed to start on wellbutrin this week, a little worried.😢
@@leannabedore I was on that and it made have hallucinations and night terrors I suffer from bipolar 2 but b4 I was diagnosed I was recommended by my family physician in Canada here to take it to quit later finding out once I was diagnosed with bipolar 2 goddamn medication like Chantix can cause all the negative side effects that we suffer from like mania psychosis
This is so sad. I’m a psychiatric nurse and I have ADHD. This is so tragic and I only know too well how medications can alter a person. Personally, I’ve tried every ADHD meds known to man before I found one that worked. I believe the 12 year old. It’s like you have no control over your emotions or body. She’ll have to live with this for the rest of her life , along with her family. I hope and pray she and her family get the support they need because this will take years to learn how to move on and cope with.❤
It is the real question. I myself and professionally, have seen patients go crazy. However, like some other comments in here, the fact that she threw the knife out the window afterwards requires some sort of thought process. Despite my profession, I don’t proclaim to be an expert by no means. However, most that lose control would not have the mental capacity to throw away a weapon. This video certainly triggers an emotional response from the side of the mother. Hence, my quick emotional response. Upon further reflection : We are only getting few details here. Of course, for a parent, it would be much easier for them to believe that this was 100% due to meds and not anything else. Either way, it’s an extremely sad situation. For all involved. I cannot imagine what this mother is going through right now. Loosing a child is painful enough, let alone at the hands of the other child. It raises an ethical question. Someone who is heavily influenced by drugs or alcohol would be rightfully held 10% accountable for taking a life. Im assuming this would not be any different. I do have a co worker, who has a child with ADHD and she has explained to me how much pressure teachers put on her to medicate their child. I can also see it from the teachers’ perspective that the resources are lacking with regards to children with individual needs and support.
@@JoanBrown-j3e why? It's so much easier to take a pill and blame the manufacturer. Plus man how are the millions of single mama's going to suddenly discipline their kids? They're too tired, they gotta go to work. 😂
Im reading all these comments. One thing I wanted to add is that I felt it interesting that the 12 year old girl was cursing and fully aware what she did was illegal and could cause her to go to jail. She seemed very concerned that her life was over and that she was going to jail. She did not seem as concerned that her brother could possibly be dead. She committed murder.
Tweens/teens are self absorbed by design. At 12 and being given so much responsibility in babysitting a 9 and 3 year old, I'm not surprised: _"All teenagers are in a developmental stage that could be seen as self-centered and insecure. Their work is to develop themselves, which means that they're so focused on themselves that they don't have a lot of mental energy left to notice how they're affecting others, even if they're actually empathic people. They greatly value their peers, so they put peers first, and it is easy for parents to feel like their teen doesn't even notice the parent's feelings. All teens are still figuring out a realistic assessment of their capabilities and where they fit in the world. All of them are still developing good judgment and tend to be in denial about risk."_
Medication truly used for ADHD does not make you have manic episodes and stab people. There is something else going on. This child was so obviously misdiagnosed. And another type of medication was definitely used instead of traditional meds - like an SSRI...
I’d like the sources, regarding the statement that ADHD drugs can cause violent manic episodes with psychosis (in general) for people with ADHD, but I’d especially like a link to the credible source which states these episodes can take place months or even years following the discontinuation of ADHD drugs. I’ve been in the medical field for a very long time and I’ve never heard of that. It’s going to be even worse if it’s discovered that the 12yr old was misdiagnosed completely and prescribed the wrong drug. I feel so bad for this mother, for this entire family. I just cannot even imagine.
The sources!?!?!? It’s fucking amphetamines, almost chemically identical to meth.. yes it absolutely can cause violence and mania and all that shit, especially in a manic person
@@barbieknight6761 right?? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a study or review where there were violent behavioral outcomes from taking ADHD drugs, and most certainly not violent manic episodes or psychosis. I’d be interested to hear experts analyze the bodycam footage of her right after. I think there’s a lot, behaviorally speaking, contained within that footage, and would be ripe for expert insight. So sad all around. Hoping it can shed some light on the matter and hopefully help save a few lives.
This story is absolutely heartbreaking. There is no making sense of such a tragedy. RIP, little guy. My heart goes out to all involved. We need to seriously re-evaluate giving young kids these medications.
There’s more to this story than medication. In the bodycam footage, the mom said that her daughter didn’t get along with her son. For those wondering, Jaylyn Mitchell is her daughter’s name. “Jaylyn.Mitchell.716” for pics of her.
My niece was put on this type of medication and has been hospitalized 4 times in the psych ward from slicing her arms and body! She said it was an out of body experience! She is no longer taken the meds, but it was a struggle cause the damn doctors kept wanting to switch her meds up, making the cutting worse each time!!! She said she felt like the devil had possessed her! Sad.
sad how common this happens : ( doctors who prescribe meds usually DO NOT actually care about the patient.... it's all to make a profit.... the pharmaceutical companies benefit more than anyone from those meds
@@MichelleLalonde519 just know that if a child is put on the meds for years it can affect their brain in potentially serious ways for the rest of their life.... the doctors never tell you the whole story
@J D yeah, currently doing all those things which is why we haven't started yet. Trying to get a much information as I can before deciding if that's what's best for my child. It's all very overwhelming.
@Michelle - Please look into dietary ingredients that may be CAUSING ADD & ADHD, such as Red#40 and Yellow#5. Several decades ago (early 2000's) I came across articles about groups of people trying to pass a ban on Red#40 because of it's DRAMATIC effects in the brain and causes of ADHD and ADD. I believe in some countries it has been actually banned, but if course not the USA🙄. Look deep into the food additives (and no it's not the sugar) that food companies are adding, like MSG (another scary ingredient😳). There is information, you just have to dig deep. Also, look into natural remedies and nutrients, such as Omega-3 from good quality fish, which has helped me in severe depression and ADD. Hope you get answers! Blessings!!
@@charlotteswebbing aah don't bother trying to reason with people on the internet. Clearly they know more than the doctors, psychologist and law enforcement all involved with this case 😂
there are other disorders that can mimic adhd too. for example bipolar disorder or oppositional defiant disorder. So it may look like adhd but really be bipolar disorder etc...
Do yall realize everyone is different and medications effect everyone differently??? And being taken off of medications can make u feel a lot of things and you can have withdrawals.
My youngest son was put on ADHD medication in 1st grade. He became angry and destructive. He would shut down and not talk if he got into trouble. Finally when he was in HS he got me to understand that the medicine was causing his anger issues. So he has never been on them since, but I absolutely regret ever making him take those medications.
When you've experienced a behavior change for yourself due to medication, you can understand how this is possible. I started taking a med that had me so I didn't know what I was doing. It was nothing like what this girl went through, thankfully. I had to stop driving because I wouldn't know where I was. I didn't even recognize my own home one day. It was very frightening. It took a few weeks to realize it was the meds. I was completely shocked how my own brain could change like that.
Apparently youve never had a serious side effect from medication personally,.. my meds make me a danger to myself and others when i miss a dose and even sometimes when i dont,… i was basically fine before the meds and now cant safely get off of them,…
I’m glad someone’s laying attention and not going off emotions, rather logic and facts. On meds 5 years just fine, chose to get off “ just to see” seriously! After that bad reaction she gave her the meds again! Did she wean her off or take her off the meds abruptly. Poor little boy. Sad unfortunate situation.
Absolutely heartbreaking. My son was on an ADD med and after awhile he wanted to stop. He said he didn't like the way it made him feel. I wasn't happy about it but he was older and I let him make the decision. After seeing this, I believe the child knows if it's a good fit or not. ❤
This mother is human. She did her best for all her children .. we're all innocent until we have more information. She's very brave for speaking about this situation and the newsman was so nice and understanding and patient, love that man.
@@alllifematters Shut it, there is always that person in the comments devoid of humanity, humility and down right decency. That person today, is you !!
She married a violent convict and brought him into her young daughters home…. She is not innocent. Look up Levi LYDA. This woman is obfuscating, she did not protect those children.
@@alllifematters you may be right l think the 3 children all have different dad's & she obviously doesn't have money needs a go fund me & sadly a paid interview of course she loved her kids but meds at aged 6 or 7 is too early
While trying to find therapy for my son who I believe has adhd, I was only given the option to medicate. I'm glad we decided to just work through it ourselves. All they want to do is medicate you
I've been hearing about these instances and the link between psych medications and violence since the Columbine shootings. There are doctors who were warning many years ago. This NEEDS to be talked about and brought to light by mothers and parents who KNOW what's causing this. I hope more people step forth and talk about this issue and "side effect" because doctors who prescribe these drugs WONT talk about it.
@@VMR8648 yet I and many others suffering chronic pain can't get relief because of overprescribing .Vulgar and again it truly needs looked into and talked about.
Stimulants are really scary. I sold a few ADHD meds (pharma rep for a long time) and i have heard some doozy stories at doctor luncheons. Things that will scare you enough. I know this isnt the norm but man so so tragic. I know she loved her brother. No doubt. My heart breaks for this family.
I have heard warnings about these drugs since the Columbine shootings. I hope more parents step up and talk about these dangerous drugs and side effects because the greedy doctors and big pharma will NEVER talk about it openly. There is just too much money and greed involved and it's tragic.
Something isn’t right. She told the cops that she heard screaming and rushed to her son because she thought he was having a nightmare. But then the daughter and the mom now is saying that the daughter woke her up and told her that she stabbed the son. Something is off here. Also ADHD medication doesn’t make a person homicidal. The mom knows more than she’s saying.
Youre completly incorrect, adhd meds can cause psychotic symptoms along with a host of other mental issues. Not to mention, where did the daughter say she woke the mom up?
@@nyc7166 the existence of psychosis as a potential side effect of adhd medication does not mean most people will develop psychosis. It means it is possible, just as SRRIs can trigger mania in a small subset of people
@@nyc7166 and you're just either completely lying about this psychiatrist you contacted in the last few hours after your comment or the psychiatrist doesn't know what they're talking about. I can't tell which. I do know it's unbelievably easy to find the relation between adhd meds, adhd, and psychosis just by googling for 30 seconds.
Prayers lifted. My heart is broken for them. The guilt that this little girl is going to deal with her whole life is gonna bring so many mental health issues. I pray that some good can come out of this.
DUDE... No. Did she get along with her brother? Why was she self-harming? What was her relationship like with the father of her brother? Need more details.
That girl had been off meds for a while. She was in the patrol car being hysterical and instantly flipped and became calm and said "are the cuffs really necessary, I'm a good child". She's spooky
“Trying to help your daughter” WTH IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD! She’s a murderer and NEEDS TO BE LOCKED UP! GET YOUR KIDS OFF SOCIAL MEDIA! And stop giving them pills!! KIDS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HYPER AND THE PHONES ARE DISTRACTING THEM! STOP DRUGGING THEM!
In an interview shortly after the incident the mother said that the boy and girl fought a lot and didn’t get along. I’m sorry for her loss, but I don’t think it was the medication only.
Her determination is something to be noted. I honestly don't think I could be doing media interviews in the near future after I lost my only 2 children at the same time,especially being that my eldest child murdered my youngest. I admire her strength in a situation as astounding as this.
Murder is only used when the person who harmed the other did it with intent and forethought, in other words it was completely planned. That is not the case here, the medical professionals have stated this violence was brought on by a negative reaction to a medication.
@@toscatattertail9813 I still believe it is murder.. the things is that she has the defense of insanity. Being under the effects of a drug is not enough to eliminate the element of intent.. (i.e., people who kill under the effects of alcohol still are indicted for murder)
Keppra made my daughter terrifying, once she was off of it within a week she was back to normal. I’m so sorry for the mom and the family, this is so sad
I bet life inside that apartment was a horror show. Three kids by three different dudes and the one she decides to shack up with got arrested for torturing and killing a kitten in front of his other kids? Great mothering skills
But on the body cam footage the mum says her son and daughter weren't that close, but that her daughter had never been violent. Now, the 2 kids were as close as can be. I'm just confused
and if you watched the body cam you'd recognize she was in shock and an unreliable narrator. there's no reason to question her here. and they were siblings, who lived in the same home and shared daily routines... why wouldn't they be close?
@islandofthemind so you don't question things you're confused about? All I'm saying is it's very contradictory. It is also possible for siblings to not be close even if living in the same house. Been there myself. In shock I can understand, yes, and that's a good answer to the question I had because I'm allowed to ask questions and be confused. So thanks
@@bellaapple2166 Well, she was throwing the F bomb around casually like she did it all the time. I get that it was an emotional situation and maybe one slips out, but my parents would have at least yelled at me to watch it...js.
@@KG_614 These doctors don't tell the parents to put in some punishments and consequences. It's easier for them to put the children on medication, and over diagnosi with adhd. Also many them exhibit sociopathic behavior which they still label adhd. Then when the kid harms people everyone is surprised.
Her stepfather allegedly had tortured and unalived one of the family cats, and then, while in prison, beat up his cellmate two nights in a row, causing the cellmate to have brain damage. So there were definitely other things going on in her environment, at some point or another. It’s just horribly sad and awful all around.
@@Future-zx9ts That's terrible and how could the mom allow him to stay in their lives while being a damn psycho? Unfortunately her growing up in that environment is exactly how sociopaths are made.
I have been on antidepressants that I felt made me become homicidal, luckily I was old enough to recognize that this was not OK and took myself off it.
I used to work with a lady for a short time who was extremely violent. It was a nightmare. One day she told me she was sorry and that it was because she was trying to wean herself of off antidepressants. At least she told me, because I kept wondering why she was always angry at me and what I did to deserve it. I would go home crying every single day, because for some reason she wasn't that way towards others but only me(maybe because I was sweet and quiet and she didn't feel like I would stand up for myself??) It was the worst time and I even became depressed more because of this nightmare of a coworker.
I pray that more people start to finally openly discuss this topic because we all know that big pharma and these greedy doctors will NEVER talk about it and WILL try to brush it all under the rug, as they have been doing for decades. So thank you for sharing your story and please continue to do so. We NEED to stand up for truth!
I'm so sorry momma. I cannot imagine what your going through. My heart genuinely goes out to you as a mom myself of the same ages, I hope you find peace ❤
The child was on medication since the age of 7. Adults (Teachers doctors and parents in this instance) FAILED this child majorly. She wasn't born evil fool- have you ever done high doses of amphetamines? - did you do em for 5 years from the age of 7 to 12 before your brain even developed? Were you than takin off of them cold turkey? Were you a giny pig at 7? Probably not. Your opinion is ignorant, shallow, and emotionally driven. No where in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to ANYTHING that could be considered a rational thought. But hey man it's all love just try having a little more decorum when commenting on such sensitive subjects in the future. 👌
I was on a new medicine for something that initially made me feel better, then my doctor upped the dose and that's when things went wrong. I literally think I had a nervous breakdown on it. I had thoughts of killing my neighbor's two dogs, and I am a huge animal lover, dog owner myself. I'd get rage anger over practically nothing. I'd look at myself in the mirror crying with out of control emotions. I felt like all my nerves were sparking inside of me like fireworks going off, and a rational part of my brain was telling me this isn't normal. I had to fight so dang hard against what that medicine was doing to my brain chemistry. I stopped taking it immediately and the day all of that med was out of my system was the best day of my life. Complete absolute nightmare.
@Clarry if you listen to the confession of the 12 year she clearly says her mother regularly leave HER to take care of the kid and shes not even home!? What do you mean
the way her mom explains how she felt on adhd medicine literally explains how i did, thankfully my mom took me off of them (after talking to my doctor ofc) and i just learned how to control it myself and my parents also helped me but i know a lot of people are not like that.
Her situation was made public, bodycam footage was released, and she has a public gofund me up, so it's really NOT weird that she would do an interview or two about her own story, from her POV that's already known to tons of people.
i have homeschooled my son since the 3rd grade he was adhd i never put him on meds and thank the Lord he graduated in May on time with a 3.7 gpa. Please be careful about these medications.
If I was Zander's dad (or extended family), I'd tell the Tulsa Police Department that if murder charges aren't filed soon, I'm suing the daughter & the mother!
Psych meds are scary especially stopping and restarting a medication. For those saying the medicine isn't an excuse, we've got to think about not only her young age but her brain that is still maturing, when a brain is chemically imbalanced things happen out of your control. So when you mix the adolescence and chemicals being imbalanced, it's inevitable that something is going to happen one way or another unfortunately :(
Her brother is inside dying or already dead because she stabbed him and shes saying "im probably gonna spend the rest of my life in jail". So seconds after killing her brother she's not worried about his health, she's worried about who?? Herself. She is a psychopath.
Medications affect people differently. You can't say ADHD meds don't "make you stab people." She may have had an allergic "reaction" to it. At the same time, she might be a budding psychopath. Only time, unfortunately, will tell. This is a very tragic story. I feel so badly for all involved, including the girl. This poor mother - she's devastated. I surely would be.We can't blame the parents. How would they know something this horrible would happen? Her interview is a gift to others who need to know this can happen. Maybe they will pay more attention to conditions like ADHD and meds given to children for all types of mental illness. Why sweep this under a rug? It's so easy for others to judge. I, for one, simply feel lucky that nothing like this ever happened in my life/my family. I don't set myself up as somehow superior to others' misfortunes, and that's what it is: a horrible misfortune.
Yes thank you because all of the seasoned doctors and clinical study’s and medical reviews never considered that medications could affect people differently 🤦🏻♀️
Exactly. When your child kills your other child, it's a whole different range of emotions that I could never imagine. This mom is following her heart imo and im sure she is well aware of everyone wanting to point the blame at her for not seeing it coming and/or for still loving and supporting her daughter while having to mourn the loss of her other child. Ppl are so quick to judge and talk out their @ss about things that they never, and will probably will never have to deal with.
I have a 13 year old girl, and 10 year old boy, also a 16 year old boy. My kids don't always get along. This story broke my heart. Prayers for answers and healing.
This is so Heartbreaking. Godspeed to this family. Thank you for sharing this and to the mother for interview. How hard it must be 😢 Mental health is so important.
I knew there was much more to this story. The comments on the officer's body cam video just tore this mom to shreds. I hope nobody ever has to experience what this family has experienced. Beware of the medications you and your family are prescribed. Just because you've been told they're safe, doesn't mean they are and discontinuing some of them have horrific results.
I saw the police video and they were at the scene and the mom kept saying how they don't get along with each other. Now she's saying they were close and loved each other. Most people get these mental disorders from not being raised properly. Those were my kids I would have had her in a facility until she got better. I feel bad for the mom but she is partially to blame.
Why would you leave your kid alone with another kid when she shows signs of harm, violence and aggression, regardless of the reason...I agree mother has some blame in this.
The girl and her mother are to blame. She was old enough to know what she was doing. I can't believe her mother is defending her daughter for being a murderer! Anybody can say ''I wasn't in the right mind'' YES YOU WERE. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WERE DOING AND WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS WERE. Plus, they try to make it seem like she self harmed when in reality, she only had the courage to do small cuts. Why do these teen girls have phones and look at tiktok videos of people self harming and then they want to do it to follow the trend and get attention? It does nothing. It's simply for attention.
@@bobby6569 believe that the little girl is playing with feelings from her mother and doctors in order not to be punished. 2 think are sure: firts she doesn't love her brother, second she now exactly what she did...i can't believe to her mother doesn't see it.
My daughter was on Concerta as a child, sure that is not spelled correctly but as she grew older I took her off the ADHD medication. This is so tragic!
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My son who is the sweetest, non violent child you could ever meet and his medicine was changed and he literally almost stabbed my ex mother in law but thankfully his dad stepped in quick enough to stop it! He couldn't explain why or what happened. The doctor immediately stopped that med and he has never ever acted like that since and he just graduated highschool.
What med?
@@juliepietruszka5089 Stop asking
@Julie Ann I think that's a fair question to ask. Educating one another on possible side effects of medicine is great. And if someone is going to be open to give an example of a side effect its fair to know which medication may have caused it.
@@charlotteswebbing I kindly disagree with your comment to the woman asking. It's a fair question to ask if someone is mentioning a possible side effect from medicine that it is known the name of the medicine so that others can be aware of the possible effect it could cause someone.
Hard to believe there were no lead-up symptoms like irritability, anger, etc.
Am so sorry mama no words can comfort you and May God ‘s grace be upon you, your daughter and family. May your son rest in peace
She married a man who was in prison for torturing and killing his daughters cat and acts as though this would not harm or affect her daughter. She obviously put her “needs” over the children and this is what happened.
Ok, i didn't know all that, but wow . I couldn't even put a man who had disrespected me over my children. Actually, I couldn't imagine even being friendly to someone who killed a cat so nevermind but she is disgusting
@@sargassum6190 ALSO, those Psychotropic meds are HORRIBLE.
@@sargassum6190 where did you hear that information?
@@Sunflowers__5 Google Levi LYDA. Many sources. Mostly the local news.
Coming off these drugs, Ssri’s included, are an indescribable nightmare. The intrusive thoughts and rage are very hard to control. I’m currently going through this and it’s an absolute living nightmare. Praying for that family.
Prayers for you
Ssri's are different from ADHD meds... And yes scary to come off of... ADHD meds are not nearly as addictive as ssri's ... I have taken both .. I never have a problem coming off of ADHD meds though . Except the normal ADHD grogginess
Wow sounds awful. Hang in there. ❤❤❤❤❤
@ movementislife they can both be *highly* addictive, and both can be dangerous to both take and come off of. I’m glad you didn’t experience difficulty coming off ADHD meds, but countless others do. It can be life threatening not only to the one taking or coming off the medication, but also to those around them. This comment section is filled with people sharing their experience of it happening to them or their child in relation to taking or stopping ADHD meds.
There is a reason ADHD meds are sold as street drugs. They are known to be highly addictive. That doesn’t mean everyone who takes them becomes addicted or has bad or life threatening/dangerous experiences, but many do, and children are no exception. It’s chemically altering the brain, and in some individuals, such as the heartbreaking case discussed in this video, it can have VERY dire consequences, and that is never something that should be downplayed.
Those taking these medications, or the parents of children taking these medications, need to understand just how volatile and dangerous the risks can be, in order to adequately monitor the situation to prevent stories like the one in this video from happening. Unfortunately not all doctors take the care and attention to explain these things, and many write scripts without giving adequate warning or preparing the patient/parents for what could occur, and just how catastrophic the risks could be.
Fortunately many doctors have stopped prescribing ADHD meds like candy (like was the case when I was growing up; thankfully I never needed them, though knew others that did and had horrible experiences), but there are still doctors who do treat it like candy and give it freely without proper warning or consideration. I pray this brave mother’s heartbreaking story opens the eyes of parents who have children on these medications or are considering putting their children on them. They CAN help some children, and sometimes are the only option to help a child function, but oftentimes there are other solutions that should be exhausted first, and if ADHD medication is tried, it needs to be done with extreme hyper vigilance and awareness to what can go wrong, and just how quickly it can happen.
Praying for you. I hope you have a great counselor and support system
She cut her arms prior to… but there were no signs that she was unstable? That’s an absolute red flag!
I can confirm the issues her daughter had. I was on ADHD medication (Adderall) in college, and as my doctor increased the dose, it made me extremely angry all the time, typically for no reason. I screamed at friends, I screamed at family, I even got into major arguments with my professors which led to me getting suspended. Then when I discovered it was the high dose that led to that behavior I immediately cut the dose in half, and those issues stopped. I feel for this family tremendously.
I was dating someone who was on meds..I wonder if it’s the reason why he got really angry at me and ended things. It was thee strangest thing I’ve ever experienced because I’m a super mellow person. I was like whoooa why is he sooo intense.
Don’t try to justify this …. She needs be in jail ….
@@nbayoungboy8529 she explaining why the meds are a factor in this nightmare! This is a very sad situation for all! Chill !
Same adderall is nuts! I was on it for way too long and it totally made me manic. Scary stuff i switched to vyvanse much better
@@nbayoungboy8529 jail doesn’t fix anything it only fixes the riches pockets. Almost no rehabilitation goes on there. That kid needs mental treatment.
Im so sad for you mom. I hope youll be able to find peace.
When I watched the body cam footage my heart stopped beating for a second hearing this poor mama's pain. I hope to God she gets the help she needs and isn't just locked away and throw away the key.
We should note that this appears to be a single mom situation, which no doubt made the whole situation a lot worse.
She appears to be a Single mom bc she is hiding the fact that she married and brought a violent convict into the home, and wants to pretend that had nothing to do with this. Look up Levi LYDA.
Another single mom. Bad choices and it’s yet everyone else’s fault
@@hr-hq8ji No, it would be WAY better if she was single. Google her husband Levi Lyda.
Absolutely heartbreaking. My heart goes out to this mother and her children.
About 2 or 3 months after stopping my ADHD med I locked myself in a closet bc I was afraid I was gonna kill my dog. It was everything I could do to not kill her and I didn’t understand why. I had some very small morsel of something that told me something was happening and these weren’t “real” feelings. That morsel saved my dog and me. Scariest think I’ve ever experienced.
I had a similar experience but with my mom. I made her tie me up and take me to emergency room because I didn’t want to hurt her. I was later diagnosed with OCD and was having intrusive thoughts. ERP saved me from that misery. Best of luck to you. I’m sorry you went through that. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
@@CharlotteIvyLeon yup!! Diagnosed with OCD. Much better and never had another experience like that. I’m sorry you went through that as well. Thank you for your kindness 🙏🏽
Intrusive thoughts are so terrifying. Big hugs xxx
Omg that's terrifying I'm thankful for that little piece of reason you were blessed with . I am against these kids being on meds I see nothing that proves these drugs ate anything but mind altering .We're you on meds and how long ?
I had an experience on a medication with myself. Something in me knew it was wrong and that it was the medication. It was beyond scary.
My brother was told to get on these meds. My parents said absolutely NOT and it was probably the best decision they’ve ever made for him.
What kind of medicine?
@@pattylettelier2837 adhd meds. There are different medications they prescribe for this but they wanted my brother in Ritalin specifically.
they’re safe and effective in the vast majority of people with ADHD. this girl definitely had other underlying issues to trigger what happened, it’s not a typical side effect at all
As a therapist I’ve learned that if ADHD medicine isn’t working it may be a sign of another disorder that can mimic ADHD such as trauma. I’ve seen adhd meds work very well with true adhd and for others have bad side effects. It’s so important to get the proper diagnosis. Also, if you notice negative side effects you should def let the doctor know so they can either change the dosage or try something new.
Well said! I too have seen patients react poorly to adhd meds when adhd isn’t the proper diagnosis. I would be curious to know more about this family’s history.
Yes! I'm a nursing student and in pharmacology it's emphasized that medicating a misdiagnosed patient can be detrimental, regardless of the medication. ADHD presents almost identical to other diagnoses. For someone with true ADHD, at the correct dose, it would never cause this. Something deeper is going on and scapegoating ADHD medication is harmful. Those of us with ADHD face enough stigma about medication as it is.
@@bryaneshelman8267 seems like there is a lot going on with the family
@@laurj23 This 🙌🏽
Could be the trauma of her step father killing an animal
This is devastating but it needs to be used as a lesson. There is a serious problem of over-diagnosing ADHD in children these days. Thus leading to over-medicating with the incorrect type of drug.
Thank you!
U don’t know if this was a wrong diagnosis. It’s the mother physician and the kid who decided to get off the medication, when it was workin* perfectly the first 5 years. Chose to stop the meds just to try to be off the meds. Who knows we will never know the truth on how she was taken off the medication by her mom. Such as was it abruptly and le if specific warnings directions were followed as doctors always warn and labels and pharmacists warn too. This could have been prevented by simply following protocol…. Science may point out that the meds were stopped abruptly after 5 years and the off on choice the mother made isn’t good. Common knowledges. Simple internet search . Those meds are potent!
it’s only going to get worse unfortunately. each generation we were getting shorter and shorter attention spans due to the rapid developments in technology. it’s one of the downsides we haven’t figured out how to prevent/treat properly yet because it’s a relatively “new” phenomenon
If you believe that it was the medication. So why did the kid have to go back on the medication in the first place? Kid had issues in the first place.
This has been an issue for years.
I’m a Retired Navy Vet, who has PTSD/MDD/BPD/Anxiety along with insomnia and the medications I’ve been on throughout 14 yrs can be very tricky to your mental psyche if you aren’t fully aware of self and reality. I’ve had to stop taking some because of the intense suicidal ideations, racing thoughts, verbal outburst, manic moments to night terrors, flashbacks and sleep paralysis… There’s nothing more horrifying than being afraid of yourself, knowing what damage you can do to things, others and yourself.
We all must educate ourselves on these medications that are prescribed to us, because knowing the side effects beforehand can really help and be instant warning signs to stop taking them. The withdrawal is a hard battle, which I’m dealing with now. It’s just that the brain/mind is a very powerful thing and We have to outsmart it.
I’ve been in therapy for over 12yrs and I highly suggest having a therapist, psychologist, psychiatrist, social worker. It’s vital and beneficial (in my opinion). Being transparent/honest with myself has worked in my favor because I WANT THE HELP & I’m Fighting for MY LIFE. It’s an internal battle and I’m praying for ALL who are Fighting too.
Those who have loved ones/friends who are battling mental health I beg you to be a listening ear, check-in on them, get them out the house and around people, let them know they are loved, wanted, needed and have a purpose. Please do not make light of what they are dealing with…Trust me, this all makes a huge difference. #MentalHealthMonth
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If I could hug you I would. I lost a lifetime friend to 5uicide 6 years ago . I just commented alot of what you just said. I actually cried reading this. I found my friend. It was bloody and violent and no one should ever see that. I had PTSD too. I sell real estate. I would start to panic if I had to open closed doors. It was scary. I am in trauma therapy. I go for me now. I can talk freely and sometimes that is all you need. My therapist can't prescribe meds. The first therapist did. 2 days of whatever that crap was made everything worse. I couldn't even function. If my therapist thought I needed something he would call my doctor. I was given Xanax for about 2 weeks. I couldn't sleep or shut down my brain. You are spot on. Thank you for your sacrifices to our country. My son is coming up on a year being in the Navy. Its amazing how they have made my boy a man. He will probably stay in and retire like you. He loves it.
I also talked about my survivors of S loss. I encourage everyone to sit in on some. That is where you will find truth. 6 years and the increase of parents coming is shocking. Losing many females after graduation. They don't have this huge support group anymore and it hits them hard. I'm warning people as much as possible. Crisis is coming in many forms. I'm watching it happen with 5uicide for sure.
@@bethanywhite877 …Thank You sooooo much for your response. I honestly wasn’t expecting anyone to comment, more so read the lengthy msg I posted. But I felt compelled to do so since I’m living in my truth through full transparency. Panic attacks are no joke, I’ve recently had one that felt like I was having a heart attack…I couldn’t breathe, racing heart, lightheaded, hearing began to faint…It was the scariest thing I’ve ever experienced in life. I called 911, barely able to breathe…Just thinking about it now tears me up. Just trying to push through anxiety/panic attacks is a struggle because you don’t know what’s going on, what’s stressing your body.
Bethany, continue with Trauma therapy…as challenging as it can be, it works. I’m in my second intensive PTSD trauma program and I’m awaiting for another 3-4 day a week program to start this month. One can not have enough help when you are wanting to help yourself. Like you, I can’t stand closed spaces..some reason that’s where intrusive thoughts linger.
Meds…I’ve tried just about everything and go back n forth with my docs who think they know what works for me, when it doesn’t. April I was stuck in bed, forced myself to sleep to avoid all negative thoughts. Trying to find ways to lose the weight these medications have on our bodies. I’m sure you can relate 🙃
In closing, I’m sending virtual hugs your way and praying for your sons safety as he serves in the Navy. I know all too well the stressors one can experience while serving our country…I just hope you tell your son to seek help when the stress begins. He will need that personal relationship with someone he can trust, hear/listen to him and help rationalize things. Nothing like being amongst 5000 people on a ship and feel alone.🫶🏽
Sending u love!
I would NOT be talking to the press about this, immediately when he tried asking about taking her on or off the medicine
She gets paid around $15,000-$20,000 for the interview. She probably could use the money.
This tragedy is heartbreaking. We need to find better ways as a society to help these kids rather than throw meds with these horrible long lasting side effects.
this is such a disrespectful and unempathic thing to say when i wasn’t on meds i was the most violent kid ever i would inflict pain on my parents and i’ve never been more happy on meds so if you aren’t someone who lives with learning disabilities don’t talk about how meds are bad please and thank you
For many people meds DO work. My experience was horrible but not the case for everyone.
We need to be respectful here. Thanks
@@Ana-mz2jx I'm sorry but you misunderstood the comment. My life depends on medication as well, but I think what the op was trying to say is we need to explore new technologies and more non invasive ways to help these kids along side the medication .
absolutely! meds are a last resort. I see it all too often in the clinic unfortunately, 5 min apps with a midlevel and they walk out with a script. i am heartbroken for the mama
@@amybe3 i think she meant as a blanket statement, need to not give these meds out to people who truly do not need them, spend more time with patients, diagnose correctly and only medicate for the correct diagnosis
Poor mom, I can't even begin to imagine the extreme pain she is in. Wishing her love & strength.❤
I would’ve sue this medication comp
@@vnss1745 Do your research before judging.
Actually. It’s the mothers job to follow medication directions and to research. U cannot sue the med comp. Warnings are listed all over the labels! Being on adhd meds on off on off should be closely monitored snd who knows if she was taken off the meds abruptly. Of course we will not ever know. Think the mom will admit to exactly how the dose was stopped? We will not know the truth, but science will dictate what happened in the girls brain due to reactions from being take off the meds. She was fine w the meds for 5 years before the mom and girl decided to get off the meds just to see how she’d do… other issues at hand. Horrific situation.
She married LEVI LYDA. She was not caring for or protecting her child. She was laying with a violent, animal torturing psycho and making him a stepfather and having more kids with him. She is culpable.
You're insane!
This is very sad situation and heartbreaking- this poor mother😢 !! My prayers for her family 🙏💔🙏
There are more layers to this story than medication.
I Think so also.
Yes they don't tell you about the stepfather who Tortured the kitten and killed it....mom.. three kids different dads all taking meds..house of demons
I think so too…something doesn’t seem right. She shouldn’t of been left alone with him if she was cutting herself.
I agree. The mother's excuses are alarming and very suspicious.
I heard she told a friend a few weeks earlier she wanted to fo this.
My daughter was around 6-7 when she was diagnosed with ADHD and when the doctor told us what the medicine side affects were, we couldn't believe it, so we chose not to medicate her and got her an IEP to help with school and we just dealt with her at home. She's now 14 and unless she gets really excited, she is good. It was hard sometimes, but I would never put my child on medication that causes the side effects that we were told about
That's wonderful! My mom also refused to medicate my brother and me. I've managed my adhd better and better over the years without medication...learning the tools to cope and very thankful she stood her ground. I know its not easy.
@@MelodyInTheChaos I couldn't imagine giving my daughter that medication with the side effects it had.
@@vickiefinney6073 I will say this, it only gets worse in mid-life, like really bad! I was never diagnosed but I know I have it & many women like myself question early dementia but it's actually ADHD with the estrogen dipping it makes the executive functioning worse. I'm a former psychotherapist & a very sensitive person with respect to any medication so I've not taken anything though I know I've had it since childhood. Girls weren't diagnosed in my day.
@@michellecd4722 I believe the doctor told us girls have it more than boys. Sending well wishes 🙏
Agreed.. Sad it seems almost everyone in US is diagnosed with some sort of mental illness or behavioral disease - ADHD, PPD, PPP, bipolar, depression, anxiety, etc. Americans are being over diagnosed and overmedicated. 😢
I saw the body cam footage and for 12yrs old she used more curse words in that 10 min video than I do an entire year. She also yelled "I don't know why I did it mom, it was some demonic sh$@"
This entire thing is heart wrenching. Can't imagine what that entire family is going through. 😢
Sadly if she was online she could have been exposed to a lot of bad stuff too.
Most of our 12 year olds are saying curse words. We just don't usually know it because they're not saying them in front of us.
So I am not entirely sure why that was your main take away of that body cam footage.
At first i felt outrage as a mama...knowing what she did...but the longer it went on....the more broken I became for not only her but the whole situation.
I cannot imagine living through this.
Not as the mom. Not as this little girl. It is horrific.
@jlcollins7673 The cursing is not a main takeaway, but there is an issue there not entirely to be blamed on the drugs. That little girl has behaviors in her that very well are possibly exacerbated by the drugs.
If a 12 yr old is cursing like that because of what is picked up online, then online use should be monitored strictly by the parent(s).
This is a tragic and cautionary tale of guarding your kids in all manners and raising them in the way they should go cannot be taken lightly. If so, there will be a root that is harder and harder to get out once it is allowed to grow.
Be well and be at peace.
Swearing is almost developmentally normal for many kids her age, and she is experiencing something more horrific than any of us could even imagine.
I can because the daughter is innocent - I should of been there to protect her, If this was my daughter firstly I'd take the blame for everything. She's too young to know what's she's done.
The worst part is this little boy will never know why his big sister stabbed him.
What?
The little boy died 😢
@@patriciagordon2Exactly my thought.
No I think the worst part is loss of a beloved family member and another living one will be missing the family in kid prison until 18.
What??? Dumb statement he’s deceased. 5:24
ADHD medication doesn’t make you stab people. There were underlying anger, mood & impulse issues in this child that were not being properly addressed.
Trying to find a reason to sue.
Calm down she is trying to make sense of why her own daughter stabbed her own brother she lost Two kids here clearly she is saying her daughter had issues prior she said she cut her wrist and had been going through mood changes she is trying to understand why as well.
You cannot say that.. those medications affect people differently… there are side affects. To sit back & judge from your keyboard as though you know this family… know this little girl. I wouldn’t for a second rule out the meds. 5 years on a medication then they took her off… there’s no telling what it did to her body chemistry. Not to mention the other things being administered i.e. injected these days with zero trial periods…
Your kidding me right you can clearly see this mother is broken over this she basically lost two kids that night one dead one arrested for murdering her little brother she is trying to get to the why and what happened she wants to know why her daughter did this clearly her daughter had some issues all you can say is she's looking to sue while on live TV emotional and clearly heartbroken
This woman is grieving and deeply traumatised. Come on.
I was once put on a medication and just after one dose I had thoughts of harming others. They were not my own thoughts and I immediately got help. How could a child realise what was happening. I just breaks my ❤
Certain medicine can make you absolutely crazy. I have seen first hand what a medication that helps you stop smoking did to my step father.
Thank you for sharing
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This is terrifying. So many meds have mental side effects. Chantix for quitting smoking is a big one that causes suicidal thoughts.
I used over the counter affrin my dr recommended for sinuses and it made me super angry for no reason. Extreme irritability and anger. I stopped it right away. Scary part was my husband had to tell me I had no idea.
@L i just commented in this section about chantix, is that what your father took? Im so sorry you guys experienced that.
I am supposed to start on wellbutrin this week, a little worried.😢
@@leannabedore I was on that and it made have hallucinations and night terrors
I suffer from bipolar 2 but b4 I was diagnosed I was recommended by my family physician in Canada here to take it to quit later finding out once I was diagnosed with bipolar 2 goddamn medication like Chantix can cause all the negative side effects that we suffer from like mania psychosis
This is so sad. I’m a psychiatric nurse and I have ADHD. This is so tragic and I only know too well how medications can alter a person. Personally, I’ve tried every ADHD meds known to man before I found one that worked. I believe the 12 year old. It’s like you have no control over your emotions or body.
She’ll have to live with this for the rest of her life , along with her family. I hope and pray she and her family get the support they need because this will take years to learn how to move on and cope with.❤
Is that little girl above the law??? That’s the real question ……
It is the real question. I myself and professionally, have seen patients go crazy. However, like some other comments in here, the fact that she threw the knife out the window afterwards requires some sort of thought process. Despite my profession, I don’t proclaim to be an expert by no means. However, most that lose control would not have the mental capacity to throw away a weapon.
This video certainly triggers an emotional response from the side of the mother. Hence, my quick emotional response. Upon further reflection :
We are only getting few details here. Of course, for a parent, it would be much easier for them to believe that this was 100% due to meds and not anything else.
Either way, it’s an extremely sad situation. For all involved. I cannot imagine what this mother is going through right now. Loosing a child is painful enough, let alone at the hands of the other child.
It raises an ethical question. Someone who is heavily influenced by drugs or alcohol would be rightfully held 10% accountable for taking a life. Im assuming this would not be any different.
I do have a co worker, who has a child with ADHD and she has explained to me how much pressure teachers put on her to medicate their child. I can also see it from the teachers’ perspective that the resources are lacking with regards to children with individual needs and support.
@@nbayoungboy8529because shes 12, it wasnt her fault, and her family are deciding not to press charges
Get off the dangerous drugs and LEARN to cope with life!!!!
@@JoanBrown-j3e why? It's so much easier to take a pill and blame the manufacturer. Plus man how are the millions of single mama's going to suddenly discipline their kids? They're too tired, they gotta go to work. 😂
This is a very difficult conversation but an important one. April is really strong and brave to speak out about this.
Im reading all these comments. One thing I wanted to add is that I felt it interesting that the 12 year old girl was cursing and fully aware what she did was illegal and could cause her to go to jail. She seemed very concerned that her life was over and that she was going to jail. She did not seem as concerned that her brother could possibly be dead. She committed murder.
Tweens/teens are self absorbed by design. At 12 and being given so much responsibility in babysitting a 9 and 3 year old, I'm not surprised:
_"All teenagers are in a developmental stage that could be seen as self-centered and insecure. Their work is to develop themselves, which means that they're so focused on themselves that they don't have a lot of mental energy left to notice how they're affecting others, even if they're actually empathic people. They greatly value their peers, so they put peers first, and it is easy for parents to feel like their teen doesn't even notice the parent's feelings. All teens are still figuring out a realistic assessment of their capabilities and where they fit in the world. All of them are still developing good judgment and tend to be in denial about risk."_
I just watched the body cam video this morning and damn this is so tragic. My heart goes out to the momma.
Medication truly used for ADHD does not make you have manic episodes and stab people.
There is something else going on. This child was so obviously misdiagnosed. And another type of medication was definitely used instead of traditional meds - like an SSRI...
I’d like the sources, regarding the statement that ADHD drugs can cause violent manic episodes with psychosis (in general) for people with ADHD, but I’d especially like a link to the credible source which states these episodes can take place months or even years following the discontinuation of ADHD drugs. I’ve been in the medical field for a very long time and I’ve never heard of that.
It’s going to be even worse if it’s discovered that the 12yr old was misdiagnosed completely and prescribed the wrong drug.
I feel so bad for this mother, for this entire family. I just cannot even imagine.
@@barbieknight6761 💯
The sources!?!?!? It’s fucking amphetamines, almost chemically identical to meth.. yes it absolutely can cause violence and mania and all that shit, especially in a manic person
@@barbieknight6761 right?? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a study or review where there were violent behavioral outcomes from taking ADHD drugs, and most certainly not violent manic episodes or psychosis.
I’d be interested to hear experts analyze the bodycam footage of her right after. I think there’s a lot, behaviorally speaking, contained within that footage, and would be ripe for expert insight.
So sad all around. Hoping it can shed some light on the matter and hopefully help save a few lives.
I'm so sorry momma,I suffer from several mental health illnesses and it's not easy. My heart goes out to you and your family.❤
This story is absolutely heartbreaking. There is no making sense of such a tragedy. RIP, little guy. My heart goes out to all involved. We need to seriously re-evaluate giving young kids these medications.
She needs the life in prison
My heart does not go out to that evil girl
It’s time to start disciplining
@@A2-Star438same. She knows what the fuck she did
There’s more to this story than medication. In the bodycam footage, the mom said that her daughter didn’t get along with her son. For those wondering, Jaylyn Mitchell is her daughter’s name. “Jaylyn.Mitchell.716” for pics of her.
My niece was put on this type of medication and has been hospitalized 4 times in the psych ward from slicing her arms and body! She said it was an out of body experience! She is no longer taken the meds, but it was a struggle cause the damn doctors kept wanting to switch her meds up, making the cutting worse each time!!! She said she felt like the devil had possessed her! Sad.
sad how common this happens : ( doctors who prescribe meds usually DO NOT actually care about the patient.... it's all to make a profit.... the pharmaceutical companies benefit more than anyone from those meds
What type of medication was she put on? I'm only asking because they are trying to put my son on ADHD medication and it scares me.
@@MichelleLalonde519 just know that if a child is put on the meds for years it can affect their brain in potentially serious ways for the rest of their life.... the doctors never tell you the whole story
@J D yeah, currently doing all those things which is why we haven't started yet. Trying to get a much information as I can before deciding if that's what's best for my child. It's all very overwhelming.
@Michelle - Please look into dietary ingredients that may be CAUSING ADD & ADHD, such as Red#40 and Yellow#5. Several decades ago (early 2000's) I came across articles about groups of people trying to pass a ban on Red#40 because of it's DRAMATIC effects in the brain and causes of ADHD and ADD. I believe in some countries it has been actually banned, but if course not the USA🙄. Look deep into the food additives (and no it's not the sugar) that food companies are adding, like MSG (another scary ingredient😳). There is information, you just have to dig deep. Also, look into natural remedies and nutrients, such as Omega-3 from good quality fish, which has helped me in severe depression and ADD. Hope you get answers! Blessings!!
That mom is reaching for excuses, there’s other issues than ADHD. Also, Self harming isn’t an adhd thing.
Clearly you need to do some research.
@@charlotteswebbing aah don't bother trying to reason with people on the internet. Clearly they know more than the doctors, psychologist and law enforcement all involved with this case 😂
Exactly
there are other disorders that can mimic adhd too. for example bipolar disorder or oppositional defiant disorder. So it may look like adhd but really be bipolar disorder etc...
Do yall realize everyone is different and medications effect everyone differently??? And being taken off of medications can make u feel a lot of things and you can have withdrawals.
My youngest son was put on ADHD medication in 1st grade. He became angry and destructive. He would shut down and not talk if he got into trouble. Finally when he was in HS he got me to understand that the medicine was causing his anger issues. So he has never been on them since, but I absolutely regret ever making him take those medications.
When you've experienced a behavior change for yourself due to medication, you can understand how this is possible. I started taking a med that had me so I didn't know what I was doing. It was nothing like what this girl went through, thankfully. I had to stop driving because I wouldn't know where I was. I didn't even recognize my own home one day. It was very frightening. It took a few weeks to realize it was the meds. I was completely shocked how my own brain could change like that.
And pharmaceutical companies never warn patients about all these scary side effects. 😢
I went out anti depressants once n it made me more depressed n zombie like. Very scary i stopped taking it
it's all about how much money big pharma can out in their greedy pockets.
I've worked in pharmaceuticals for the past 20 years. Yes some medications can cause irritability but it's irresponsible to blame medication alone.
Agree she said she had previously been on it for 5 years and was never violent so I highly doubt it eas the medicine
Apparently youve never had a serious side effect from medication personally,.. my meds make me a danger to myself and others when i miss a dose and even sometimes when i dont,… i was basically fine before the meds and now cant safely get off of them,…
Are you fimiliar with mania? I’m bipolar, an 31, at 12 it’s a miracle I didn’t make a lifelong mistake
Not if your 12 ! You can't explain how you feel.
@@roundsdm Amen
She's contradicting herself from what she said here vs what she said to the police on the body cam video on that night...
You’re right
At the hospital in the waiting room?
She wasn’t thinking about any possibilities at the time, but she’s had time to process
@@lukemckee3970 or she’s making excuses to keep her kid out of prison. Either way unfortunate position to be in.
I’m glad someone’s laying attention and not going off emotions, rather logic and facts. On meds 5 years just fine, chose to get off “ just to see” seriously! After that bad reaction she gave her the meds again! Did she wean her off or take her off the meds abruptly. Poor little boy. Sad unfortunate situation.
My heart breaks for this mom and family!!!So very tragic!!!!
Why are families so trusting on pharmaceuticals. Ridiculous.
Absolutely heartbreaking. My son was on an ADD med and after awhile he wanted to stop. He said he didn't like the way it made him feel. I wasn't happy about it but he was older and I let him make the decision. After seeing this, I believe the child knows if it's a good fit or not. ❤
@@Newsnationforamerica no ur not. And ppl, DO NOT send this fake person any of ur personal information.
I can hear them trying to bring a lawsuit. it's always someone else's fault. What about anger issues, bad moods, and unable to control impulses.s
Do you have anger issues?
And lack of good parenting
Did you read the GoFundMe description and the mother's update comments? I wouldn't be surprised if they do what you said.
This mother is human. She did her best for all her children .. we're all innocent until we have more information.
She's very brave for speaking about this situation and the newsman was so nice and understanding and patient, love that man.
Probably not having more children that she can take care of effectively would have been the best way she could have helped her children.
@@alllifematters Shut it, there is always that person in the comments devoid of humanity, humility and down right decency. That person today, is you !!
@@delishme2 thank you
She married a violent convict and brought him into her young daughters home…. She is not innocent. Look up Levi LYDA. This woman is obfuscating, she did not protect those children.
@@alllifematters you may be right l think the 3 children all have different dad's & she obviously doesn't have money needs a go fund me & sadly a paid interview of course she loved her kids but meds at aged 6 or 7 is too early
While trying to find therapy for my son who I believe has adhd, I was only given the option to medicate. I'm glad we decided to just work through it ourselves. All they want to do is medicate you
Putting kids on potentially dangerous or personality altering drugs so they will do their school work has always bothered me.
this is so fucking messed up taking a care of a child for 9 years then your 12 year old daughter takes his life away
My heart goes out to this mother that was sucked in by big pharma, through Doctors she trusted. She has paid the worst price.😢
Big Pharma saved me when I had my heart attack at age 43 .I have no problems taking a daily Pharma heart medication.🤘🤘
It's the ultimate price .😢 Terribly sad
I've been hearing about these instances and the link between psych medications and violence since the Columbine shootings. There are doctors who were warning many years ago. This NEEDS to be talked about and brought to light by mothers and parents who KNOW what's causing this. I hope more people step forth and talk about this issue and "side effect" because doctors who prescribe these drugs WONT talk about it.
@@VMR8648 yet I and many others suffering chronic pain can't get relief because of overprescribing .Vulgar and again it truly needs looked into and talked about.
i can understand the mom wanting to make sense of this all, but nah, meds from 1.5 years ago didnt didnt cause this
Stimulants are really scary. I sold a few ADHD meds (pharma rep for a long time) and i have heard some doozy stories at doctor luncheons. Things that will scare you enough. I know this isnt the norm but man so so tragic. I know she loved her brother. No doubt. My heart breaks for this family.
I have heard warnings about these drugs since the Columbine shootings. I hope more parents step up and talk about these dangerous drugs and side effects because the greedy doctors and big pharma will NEVER talk about it openly. There is just too much money and greed involved and it's tragic.
It angers me that these doctors KNOW about the dangers and STILL continue prescribing the dangerous drugs! 😡😡😡😡❤️🩹
@@VMR8648 Sad but true, Americans are overmedicated, over diagnosed. Drugged society..Pharmas love drug dependant society.
Something isn’t right. She told the cops that she heard screaming and rushed to her son because she thought he was having a nightmare. But then the daughter and the mom now is saying that the daughter woke her up and told her that she stabbed the son. Something is off here. Also ADHD medication doesn’t make a person homicidal. The mom knows more than she’s saying.
Have you seen the bodycam footage on the scene? The girl is clearly hysterical and kept saying over and over "I don't know what happened"
Youre completly incorrect, adhd meds can cause psychotic symptoms along with a host of other mental issues. Not to mention, where did the daughter say she woke the mom up?
@@UnseenOct I’m not incorrect. Not only do I know a well established psychiatrist who confirmed this, I know peope with ADHD that take medication.
@@nyc7166 the existence of psychosis as a potential side effect of adhd medication does not mean most people will develop psychosis. It means it is possible, just as SRRIs can trigger mania in a small subset of people
@@nyc7166 and you're just either completely lying about this psychiatrist you contacted in the last few hours after your comment or the psychiatrist doesn't know what they're talking about. I can't tell which. I do know it's unbelievably easy to find the relation between adhd meds, adhd, and psychosis just by googling for 30 seconds.
Prayers lifted. My heart is broken for them. The guilt that this little girl is going to deal with her whole life is gonna bring so many mental health issues. I pray that some good can come out of this.
ADHD and meds alone didn't make her do that. Normal kids with a normal life and a normal home life don't even think about doing something like this.
DUDE... No. Did she get along with her brother? Why was she self-harming? What was her relationship like with the father of her brother? Need more details.
This mom needs to wake up and stop making excuses for her daughter!!! This girl seriously needs alot of help!!!!
They aren’t excuses, they are reasons, mental health can cause horrible things
That girl had been off meds for a while.
She was in the patrol car being hysterical and instantly flipped and became calm and said "are the cuffs really necessary, I'm a good child".
She's spooky
“Trying to help your daughter”
WTH IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD!
She’s a murderer and NEEDS TO BE LOCKED UP! GET YOUR KIDS OFF SOCIAL MEDIA! And stop giving them pills!!
KIDS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HYPER AND THE PHONES ARE DISTRACTING THEM! STOP DRUGGING THEM!
In an interview shortly after the incident the mother said that the boy and girl fought a lot and didn’t get along. I’m sorry for her loss, but I don’t think it was the medication only.
He was asleep when she killed him
This poor woman. My heart breaks for her as a mother and her family.
My heart literally breaks for this mother. It's just horrible!
If it were the medication, then why did she appear to be very lucid and remorseful after she stabbed him?
Psychotic episodes come on suddenly and dissapear
Can we let the mother talk without interrupting/ cutting her off?…
Her determination is something to be noted. I honestly don't think I could be doing media interviews in the near future after I lost my only 2 children at the same time,especially being that my eldest child murdered my youngest. I admire her strength in a situation as astounding as this.
Murder is only used when the person who harmed the other did it with intent and forethought, in other words it was completely planned. That is not the case here, the medical professionals have stated this violence was brought on by a negative reaction to a medication.
@@toscatattertail9813 so its manslaughter?
She actually has three children
@@toscatattertail9813 I still believe it is murder.. the things is that she has the defense of insanity.
Being under the effects of a drug is not enough to eliminate the element of intent.. (i.e., people who kill under the effects of alcohol still are indicted for murder)
@@KrystiroI believe that the little girl is playing with feelings from her mother and doctors in order not to be punished.
Keppra made my daughter terrifying, once she was off of it within a week she was back to normal. I’m so sorry for the mom and the family, this is so sad
What was her behavior like? I’m currently on keppra for my seizures
This is such a sad, sad story. My heart goes out to the family!
I bet life inside that apartment was a horror show. Three kids by three different dudes and the one she decides to shack up with got arrested for torturing and killing a kitten in front of his other kids? Great mothering skills
I have a feeling mom was suddenly stopping and starting these meds which can cause severe reactions
But on the body cam footage the mum says her son and daughter weren't that close, but that her daughter had never been violent. Now, the 2 kids were as close as can be. I'm just confused
Exactly. Now she's saying the opposite. I suppose she already lost one child, she doesn't want to lose the other?
She said at the hospital in body cam they were close .
She also said her daughter didn't curse when all she did was curse in the video
and if you watched the body cam you'd recognize she was in shock and an unreliable narrator. there's no reason to question her here. and they were siblings, who lived in the same home and shared daily routines... why wouldn't they be close?
@islandofthemind so you don't question things you're confused about? All I'm saying is it's very contradictory. It is also possible for siblings to not be close even if living in the same house. Been there myself. In shock I can understand, yes, and that's a good answer to the question I had because I'm allowed to ask questions and be confused. So thanks
so... this lady lost her nine year old son to her clearly unstable daughter, and she is blaming medication? uh huh.... check the family dynamic...
Yes the answer is in the family dynamic. I wonder what all she was allowed to get away with because of the adhd diagnosis.
@@bellaapple2166 Well, she was throwing the F bomb around casually like she did it all the time. I get that it was an emotional situation and maybe one slips out, but my parents would have at least yelled at me to watch it...js.
@@KG_614 These doctors don't tell the parents to put in some punishments and consequences. It's easier for them to put the children on medication, and over diagnosi with adhd. Also many them exhibit sociopathic behavior which they still label adhd. Then when the kid harms people everyone is surprised.
Her stepfather allegedly had tortured and unalived one of the family cats, and then, while in prison, beat up his cellmate two nights in a row, causing the cellmate to have brain damage. So there were definitely other things going on in her environment, at some point or another. It’s just horribly sad and awful all around.
@@Future-zx9ts That's terrible and how could the mom allow him to stay in their lives while being a damn psycho? Unfortunately her growing up in that environment is exactly how sociopaths are made.
I have been on antidepressants that I felt made me become homicidal, luckily I was old enough to recognize that this was not OK and took myself off it.
This is very very typical sadly... I hope you are doing better ❤❤ hugs
Same for me. I went through the same thing.
I used to work with a lady for a short time who was extremely violent. It was a nightmare. One day she told me she was sorry and that it was because she was trying to wean herself of off antidepressants. At least she told me, because I kept wondering why she was always angry at me and what I did to deserve it. I would go home crying every single day, because for some reason she wasn't that way towards others but only me(maybe because I was sweet and quiet and she didn't feel like I would stand up for myself??) It was the worst time and I even became depressed more because of this nightmare of a coworker.
I pray that more people start to finally openly discuss this topic because we all know that big pharma and these greedy doctors will NEVER talk about it and WILL try to brush it all under the rug, as they have been doing for decades. So thank you for sharing your story and please continue to do so. We NEED to stand up for truth!
I'm so sorry momma. I cannot imagine what your going through. My heart genuinely goes out to you as a mom myself of the same ages, I hope you find peace ❤
Never ever let your children do drugs!!! Esp not those pharmadrugs prescribed by doctors!
The warning says may cause suicidal or homicidal thoughts
I'm really glad the girl won't be charged as an adult. This seems like a mental health crisis, not an evil kid.
I can’t imagine going through what this mother is going through. I don’t know that I could forgive my child for doing something so evil.
The mother and father caused her behaviours
@@lmn1966Nah that a bull shit, is just a crazy person.
@@kneedol yes she did
@@kneedolYes she did. She pre mediated it.
She still deserves life in prison or the death penalty!!!! I don't care what they say, she knows exactly what she did!!!!!
The child was on medication since the age of 7. Adults (Teachers doctors and parents in this instance) FAILED this child majorly. She wasn't born evil fool- have you ever done high doses of amphetamines? - did you do em for 5 years from the age of 7 to 12 before your brain even developed? Were you than takin off of them cold turkey? Were you a giny pig at 7? Probably not. Your opinion is ignorant, shallow, and emotionally driven. No where in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to ANYTHING that could be considered a rational thought. But hey man it's all love just try having a little more decorum when commenting on such sensitive subjects in the future. 👌
@@logandailey2498why defend murder
she is 12? What 12 year old goes to normal prison/get the death penalty?
I was on a new medicine for something that initially made me feel better, then my doctor upped the dose and that's when things went wrong. I literally think I had a nervous breakdown on it. I had thoughts of killing my neighbor's two dogs, and I am a huge animal lover, dog owner myself. I'd get rage anger over practically nothing. I'd look at myself in the mirror crying with out of control emotions. I felt like all my nerves were sparking inside of me like fireworks going off, and a rational part of my brain was telling me this isn't normal. I had to fight so dang hard against what that medicine was doing to my brain chemistry. I stopped taking it immediately and the day all of that med was out of my system was the best day of my life. Complete absolute nightmare.
So why would she leave her daughter ALONE with a KID.
@Clarry if you listen to the confession of the 12 year she clearly says her mother regularly leave HER to take care of the kid and shes not even home!? What do you mean
You agreed to put her back on medicine because her grades were slipping? Wtf
the way her mom explains how she felt on adhd medicine literally explains how i did, thankfully my mom took me off of them (after talking to my doctor ofc) and i just learned how to control it myself and my parents also helped me but i know a lot of people are not like that.
My Heart Goes out to this Mom and Daughter ! I’m Praying for All Family Members.
Your heart goes out to the murderer?? What about the innocent little victim?
@@A2-Star438 I was talking about the victims Family, Grandparents, uncles,cousins ect.
I can never get over people running out to interviews after some horrible incident. It's weird.
@Lorene Carden, there is a lesson here, that’s why. It’s also been 6 months.
Her situation was made public, bodycam footage was released, and she has a public gofund me up, so it's really NOT weird that she would do an interview or two about her own story, from her POV that's already known to tons of people.
@@floflo8153 yeah whatever
It's the Media y'all
Agree
i have homeschooled my son since the 3rd grade he was adhd i never put him on meds and thank the Lord he graduated in May on time with a 3.7 gpa. Please be careful about these medications.
If I was Zander's dad (or extended family), I'd tell the Tulsa Police Department that if murder charges aren't filed soon, I'm suing the daughter & the mother!
Same!
Psych meds are scary especially stopping and restarting a medication. For those saying the medicine isn't an excuse, we've got to think about not only her young age but her brain that is still maturing, when a brain is chemically imbalanced things happen out of your control. So when you mix the adolescence and chemicals being imbalanced, it's inevitable that something is going to happen one way or another unfortunately :(
Her brother is inside dying or already dead because she stabbed him and shes saying "im probably gonna spend the rest of my life in jail". So seconds after killing her brother she's not worried about his health, she's worried about who?? Herself. She is a psychopath.
My heart breaks for this mother and her family
Maybe had something to do with the trauma of this mom marrying a violent, animal torturing, convict into her daughters life and home…
The mom, who is evil, thinks the investigators are on her side; they're building a case against you, Einstein
My heart breaks for this mother! I know how medications can play with your mind.
I feel so bad for this sweet mother. My love and prayers and SUPPORT go out to her ❤
Medications affect people differently. You can't say ADHD meds don't "make you stab people." She may have had an allergic "reaction" to it. At the same time, she might be a budding psychopath. Only time, unfortunately, will tell. This is a very tragic story. I feel so badly for all involved, including the girl. This poor mother - she's devastated. I surely would be.We can't blame the parents. How would they know something this horrible would happen? Her interview is a gift to others who need to know this can happen. Maybe they will pay more attention to conditions like ADHD and meds given to children for all types of mental illness. Why sweep this under a rug? It's so easy for others to judge. I, for one, simply feel lucky that nothing like this ever happened in my life/my family. I don't set myself up as somehow superior to others' misfortunes, and that's what it is: a horrible misfortune.
Yes thank you because all of the seasoned doctors and clinical study’s and medical reviews never considered that medications could affect people differently 🤦🏻♀️
I've had an allergic reaction. To medication and you know what happened? I couldn't breathe and got hives.
Exactly. When your child kills your other child, it's a whole different range of emotions that I could never imagine. This mom is following her heart imo and im sure she is well aware of everyone wanting to point the blame at her for not seeing it coming and/or for still loving and supporting her daughter while having to mourn the loss of her other child. Ppl are so quick to judge and talk out their @ss about things that they never, and will probably will never have to deal with.
An "allergic reaction?" White people get every excuse in the book.
@@ajdarko8531 omg bro u thinik ur the king IM the king! this little girl should have been given life in prison
It’s not only about the meds. Something else to the story for sure
I have a 13 year old girl, and 10 year old boy, also a 16 year old boy. My kids don't always get along. This story broke my heart. Prayers for answers and healing.
she should have life in prison
This is so Heartbreaking. Godspeed to this family. Thank you for sharing this and to the mother for interview. How hard it must be 😢 Mental health is so important.
I knew there was much more to this story. The comments on the officer's body cam video just tore this mom to shreds. I hope nobody ever has to experience what this family has experienced. Beware of the medications you and your family are prescribed. Just because you've been told they're safe, doesn't mean they are and discontinuing some of them have horrific results.
She stabs the little boy 3 times then runs away and hides the knife mom needs to be charged as well
She didn't hide it .Get with the program.
Let's blame the medication so she can get out and do it again to someone else's child. She's a cold-blooded killer.
What is going on at home that she required medication? Child determines when and if she's on medication?
Bs don’t use excuse for her she totally messed up she needs to be held accountable
I saw the police video and they were at the scene and the mom kept saying how they don't get along with each other. Now she's saying they were close and loved each other. Most people get these mental disorders from not being raised properly. Those were my kids I would have had her in a facility until she got better. I feel bad for the mom but she is partially to blame.
Why would you leave your kid alone with another kid when she shows signs of harm, violence and aggression, regardless of the reason...I agree mother has some blame in this.
The girl and her mother are to blame. She was old enough to know what she was doing. I can't believe her mother is defending her daughter for being a murderer! Anybody can say ''I wasn't in the right mind'' YES YOU WERE. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WERE DOING AND WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS WERE. Plus, they try to make it seem like she self harmed when in reality, she only had the courage to do small cuts. Why do these teen girls have phones and look at tiktok videos of people self harming and then they want to do it to follow the trend and get attention? It does nothing. It's simply for attention.
@@bobby6569 believe that the little girl is playing with feelings from her mother and doctors in order not to be punished. 2 think are sure: firts she doesn't love her brother, second she now exactly what she did...i can't believe to her mother doesn't see it.
Heartbreaking 💔 i hope the mum and daughter get the support they both need 🙏🏻
SHUT UP DUDE
All those medications are so dangerous for children, she should of been slowly weaned off of the medications
Im on it and i feel happy and productive with it.when i stop taking it i just dont focus and concentrate well. Ive never felt angry or aggressive.
Everyone is different. I know a few who are also doing well besides headaches
My daughter was on Concerta as a child, sure that is not spelled correctly but as she grew older I took her off the ADHD medication. This is so tragic!