Unboxing, Review and Conversion of Dewalt Compound Miter Saw DWS779 to DWS780 for $60 (2021)

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  • Опубликовано: 11 янв 2025

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  • @Chatonune
    @Chatonune 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wish it was 2021, it's $142 to upgrade now according to amzn. Loved the video.

  • @wyseguy77
    @wyseguy77 3 года назад +4

    Love how you mentioned you're growing up and want grown up tools. I felt the same way when I bought my 779 and started replacing my Ryobi tools with Milwaukee. It's a great feeling. Cheers

  • @melvincooper8926
    @melvincooper8926 3 года назад +1

    When I saw (pun intended) that your video was 30 minutes long....I was like, com'on 30 whole minutes for a miter saw. And then I started watching...I couldn't stop watching. Very informative and thanks for saving me $200 bucks!

  • @MrBostonBilly
    @MrBostonBilly 8 месяцев назад

    I know u posted this 3 yrs ago, I just saw it now, yes ur old miter saw was Canadian I know because I'm Canadian it's from a store called Canadian tire, their top brand is Maximum it doesn't even compare to Ryobi, it's a beginners brand. I'm a Dewalt man myself everything I have is Dewalt, I myself have the 781B and love it

  • @timyarbro4783
    @timyarbro4783 Год назад

    I did the same thing a few years ago. It's well worth the few minutes it takes. Thanks for the video.

  • @theelmagoo
    @theelmagoo 3 года назад +6

    Great walkthrough video! Thanks for this!! Also just to note, there was another channel that did a comparison of the schematics of the 779 and 780, and apparently there are upgrades to the motor in the 780 as well. Presumably to make it beefier to last longer. But there does seem to be more difference than just the light.

    • @relikvija
      @relikvija 3 года назад +3

      Tool bear said thwy downgraded the parts in the newer 780 saws.
      Basically, they watered it down...
      Profit comes first

    • @ReelHardFishing
      @ReelHardFishing 2 года назад +1

      No, the bear said what reli said. They watered the 780 down to the 779. They downgraded parts in the newer 780. The 780 has 4 types, type 1, type 2, type 20 and type 21. The 20 and 21 are same as 779, the type 1 and type 2 are the beefier of the 4.

    • @perry.dillard
      @perry.dillard 2 года назад +2

      @@ReelHardFishing You're correct and I updated with a new reply below. I should probly just delete this prior comment. I realized I misheard the explanation. I ended up with a Type 1 780. I'm a happy camper.

    • @ReelHardFishing
      @ReelHardFishing 2 года назад +1

      @@perry.dillard yes I was happy to find that mine was type 2 even though I didn't pay for it.

  • @vikingnorm6935
    @vikingnorm6935 3 года назад +3

    My XPS kit is in UPS truck “out for delivery “ I bought the 779 last week, EXACTLY same thing you did LOL, ok, going to watch your video now, subbed & liked

    • @DadPerfectDesigns
      @DadPerfectDesigns  3 года назад +2

      thats awesome. Im usually pretty responsive to comments, so if you run into any snags, feel free to hit me up. Enjoy!

    • @vikingnorm6935
      @vikingnorm6935 3 года назад +1

      @@DadPerfectDesigns Thanks man, I appreciate it

  • @lastditch727
    @lastditch727 3 года назад +4

    The 779 is not the same as the 780 minus the light. I've spoken with a rep at my local dewalt store and he confirms, they're different internally. It will cost more to do certain repairs to the 779.

    • @miningsimple1924
      @miningsimple1924 2 года назад +3

      Not true anymore, they down graded the quality of the 780. To include the cheaper parts. The original 780 was a beast. But the one their selling now days isn't the same tool as it use to be. The den of tools has a good video explaining them. The truth about the dewalt dws780 vs dws779. Is the title

    • @00powerstrokin
      @00powerstrokin 2 года назад +1

      They have the same part numbers for replacement parts. They are internally the exact same saw now.

    • @lastditch727
      @lastditch727 2 года назад +2

      @@00powerstrokin if you simply Google search "what's the dif between dw780 and dw779" you'll clearly see the differences. Updated in jan of this year. Why does everyone insist they know better? Lol it's a different saw.

  • @charliemurphy2523
    @charliemurphy2523 3 года назад +2

    do you have a link for the part numbers needed for the light upgrade kit?

  • @idude1471
    @idude1471 3 года назад +1

    Dewalt says both are the same now. Price difference is xps light and the 780 comes with a more expensive blade.

  • @mcarendt
    @mcarendt 3 года назад +2

    Mastercraft is a Menards brand of tools. I'd assume your old saw is just an old version of what they sell now.

  • @andrewsturgess7072
    @andrewsturgess7072 2 года назад

    I've always wondered where the 14 pound difference is. Must be in the base since everything else looks similar. Great mod for the 779,

  • @HTPXI
    @HTPXI Год назад

    How many gauge wires are the ones you added?

  • @bootstraps4174
    @bootstraps4174 2 года назад +1

    Who makes that wire stripper

  • @EYECOMEINPEACE
    @EYECOMEINPEACE 3 года назад +2

    Arrgh. Need to get one tomorrow and can't decide between the 779 or the ridgid r4222.

    • @DadPerfectDesigns
      @DadPerfectDesigns  3 года назад +1

      Rigid is a good company. I would do a little research on what it is your looking for out of the saw. I needed better dust collection and out of the saws, this was the best for my price range. There’s better saws but they cost a lot more. Type in the saw model and compare and I’m sure someone has made video comparing the two. Good luck.

  • @MrSylvainarsenault
    @MrSylvainarsenault 3 года назад +1

    Can you give us the kit number and where to find it, great video and very well described!

  • @luisma1161
    @luisma1161 Год назад +1

    Great video thanks for posting it

  • @techmap4191
    @techmap4191 Год назад +1

    Where did you order the kit??

    • @DadPerfectDesigns
      @DadPerfectDesigns  Год назад +1

      I should have done it when I posted the Video but I added it now. The items I purchased are in the description. Good Luck. Also, the wiring I did has help up perfectly with no voltage drop.

  • @JasonTaylor1
    @JasonTaylor1 2 года назад

    MasterCraft is a brand used extensively at Menards home centers

  • @jmk7104
    @jmk7104 Год назад

    Current travels on the outside of a conductor and when you “haircut” it, you’re limiting the rating on the conductors ampacity. Being an electrician and this being a corded saw with a decent amount of amps, you’ve could’ve just crimped an extra conductor between them and not created an environment for hot spots or arcing.

  • @TheByouc2000
    @TheByouc2000 2 года назад

    Can you tell me where do you ordered the part thank you

  • @brendangriffin1791
    @brendangriffin1791 Год назад

    Check out the old westernelectric payphone. I have one just like it

  • @SubtlyAggressive
    @SubtlyAggressive 2 года назад +1

    That light on Amazon is going for $168 now...

  • @ltfirefighter772
    @ltfirefighter772 2 года назад

    As others have mentioned, the 779 is not the same as the 780 just without the light. The extra cost does actually give you more features. I have a 782 and compared it side by side with a 780. The 782 is exactly the same as a 780 just no light (and much less expensive). The 779 is missing certain features of the 780/782 besides the light.

  • @tylerogrins6000
    @tylerogrins6000 2 года назад

    Master craft is Canadian. The store “Canadian Tire” is a big box store that specializes in tools, auto supplies, camping/hunting and sporting goods. The company Mastercraft is sold through Canadian tire and generally has rediculously good warranties. If you buy a mastercraft wrench, its guaranteed for life. No receipt, just bring in a broken mastercraft wrench or screw driver and get an off the shelf replacement… Not the top of the line but good for life to be the same 😂

  • @dollymansuri2936
    @dollymansuri2936 3 года назад

    Where did you buy the kit Sir? Thanks!

  • @markmurrell1894
    @markmurrell1894 2 года назад

    Would this work with the Dws716? I am not wanting the slide version but want the light.

  • @christcrucified6385
    @christcrucified6385 2 года назад

    Now the light kit is $100 plus $15 for shipping! You also only get a 32 tooth blade with the 779 and you get a 60 tooth fine finish blade with the 780 that is actually useable for finish work for a while. So add $165 just to get the light and the blade that comes with the 780. This is not even considering the other features that the 779 has gotten rid of. It does not have the extra bevel stops anymore either. I found the 780 on sale for $520 right after I bought the 779 for $449 with a free stand I did not even really want. It was a no brainer the 779 is going back to Lowe's. Oh yeah, modifying the 779 will void the warranty as well, though warranties are often worthless anyway.

    • @petergiannakos3741
      @petergiannakos3741 2 года назад

      Where did you find the dws780 on sale for $520?

    • @christcrucified6385
      @christcrucified6385 2 года назад

      @@petergiannakos3741 Don't order from JB tools. They are selling used and beat up items and claiming their new. My saw did come but it was clearly refurbished or used. Box had holes all over it. The miter handle had three big chunks out of it. Machine had scratches and scuffs all over it. It even had an old used part in the box from some other machine 🤦. I'm usually so good at recognizing these things. I can't believe I fell for it. Somehow I guess I saw their reviews and they were all good of course. You go to Google reviews and you'll find out the truth.

    • @petergiannakos3741
      @petergiannakos3741 2 года назад

      @@christcrucified6385 thanks for the heads up. I was thinking of going that route and buying one from them. I’ll stick with the 779 in that case.

  • @mikeege7643
    @mikeege7643 3 года назад

    Thanks for taking the time to share your research. Very helpful. My only comment for the non-electricians watching this video is to be careful in duplicating the testing portion. You had wrapped your hand over the black (hot/line) terminal of the switch when you pulled the trigger. Had you touched the aluminum frame (or any other metal) of the saw, the video might have included a few swear words. Thanks again for your help. How do you like the saw? I'm thinking about getting one.

  • @ReelHardFishing
    @ReelHardFishing 2 года назад +1

    Keep in mind everyone, the newer 780 has same parts in motor as 779 and make it basically same exact saw. The 780 has 4 types. Type 1, type 2, type 20 and type 21, but the type 20 and 21 are same motors as the 779. The type 1 and type 2 on the 780 are the beefier more quality motors.

    • @christcrucified6385
      @christcrucified6385 2 года назад

      This is false information put out by the tool bear guy. If you look at the diagrams for each type you will see that the parts changed simultaneously with newer models. The main parts of the 779 and 780 have always been the same each year. The is no evidence they were beefier in the past. The only downgrading that has happened is the removing of features from the 779 such as extra bevel stops, full depth cut lock, and the metal bevel wheel. It also has a cheaper and next to worthless blade and no light.

  • @APolishedTurd
    @APolishedTurd Год назад

    So how did you manage to shave the 20 pounds of difference In weight off of the 779 to the 780 to make the conversion complete?
    Also we need to add a handle. Change the miter Detent plates out switch over the the 780s dust collection system
    I think a much more appropriate title would have been “Adding a shadow line to my 779”
    Because that’s what you did lol.

    • @DadPerfectDesigns
      @DadPerfectDesigns  Год назад

      Thank you for watching and I hope you subscribed. 😂 You obviously watched the video because it sparked your interest. The weight difference from the 780 is mostly because of them adding a few more stops for miter cuts on the back and using a metal handle for the bevel adjustment instead of plastic. Not to mention the obvious, the XPS system. Besides the added stop adjustment, the saw is exactly the same. And as for the title, I will not change it because I did convert the saw. If you don’t believe adding the XPS is a complete conversion then that’s your opinion. But people are most likely buying the 780 because of the light, not because of the stops, which by the way I can buy those for a fraction of the price and add those as well, because all of the machine is in place to add them(it’s the same base) but I don’t need those so I opted out of that. Don’t believe me? Look up the difference between the two. Lots of videos that agree with everything I just mentioned. Anyways. Have an amazing day and keep watching!

    • @jameshill4900
      @jameshill4900 Год назад

      The 780 weighs 76 pounds or 779? Where did you get that number from. All current specs have it at 56. The older versions were 65.

  • @MelodeusForever
    @MelodeusForever 2 года назад

    I think it's worth voiding the warranty only thing, a year later, they've caught on its now $93+ for 3 parts to the kit, then shipping for $15 and then tax which takes you over the top $111+ so right now, considering getting the kit for $150 plus the DWS779 - which by the way is on a Black Friday Sale where you get it for $399 and they throw in a DWX724 for free but rounded up - $550 compared to buying the DWS780 for $650. Or maybe that $100 is worth spending. Thanks for sharing!

    • @petergiannakos3741
      @petergiannakos3741 2 года назад

      Are you talking about the kit from m and m tools or some place else? I was going to purchase it from m and m but there are tons of recent reviews with complaints about how the site is now fraudulent and people’s credit card info is being compromised. Would love to find the kit somewhere else

    • @christcrucified6385
      @christcrucified6385 2 года назад +1

      You can get the 780 at JB Tools right now for $520. It is a MUCH better deal unless you need the free stand. The 799 comes with a 32 tooth blade that is worthless for finishing work. The 780 has a decent 60 tooth finishing blade. The 779 also has no extra bevel stops, no full depth space lock, no light, plastic bevel wheel instead of metal, etc. There is no machining on the 779 to allow adding the parts aftermarket either. The only thing you can really add is the light and now with shipping it is over $100. Just to upgrade a 779 to get a light and a decent blade with cost at least $160.

    • @petergiannakos3741
      @petergiannakos3741 2 года назад +1

      @@christcrucified6385 thanks for the vendor info. Im still on the fence. I got the 779 for $250 after returning the “free” stand. I’ve also seen a hack where I can put a usb led light on for the shadow light for around $20. That plus a fine tooth Diablo blade, I’m about $330 all in. So about $200 in savings, but that obviously doesn’t make up for the other features that come standard on the 780.

    • @christcrucified6385
      @christcrucified6385 2 года назад

      @@petergiannakos3741 That is a good deal. I didn't know you could take the stand back and get money for it. I might have went that route also. I don't think I'd miss any of these other features. The saw will cut a board standing up at 7 and 1/4 in. I don't see needing the extra bevel stops when I can miter just about everything. If I knew I could return the stand I probably would have just done that and bought the light kit.

  • @joaquinvasquez7923
    @joaquinvasquez7923 10 месяцев назад

    It's Big Boy time now right? But goddammit, I just love a new tool!

  • @perry.dillard
    @perry.dillard 2 года назад

    So the thing to understand here is that there are actually 4 models of the DWS780 Type 1, Type 2, Type 20 and Type 21. The newer DWS780 Type 20 and Type 21 ARE the same as the DWS779. They have actually downgraded the parts. But the Type 1 and Type 2 are still the higher quality internals. If you can get your hands on the Type 1 or Type 2 then you really do have a higher quality saw. Pretty shady on the part of DeWalt to downgrade internal parts without really telling the consumer. In fact I'd say it's bordering on false advertising, but IANAL.

  • @nelsonbrum8496
    @nelsonbrum8496 3 года назад

    You bought a miter saw.. if you wanted a chop saw, you should have bought the D28730. It would have been under $200 as well! WIN!

  • @satchmodog2
    @satchmodog2 2 года назад

    I did the same mod but waited a year until the actual warranty was up. Dewalt's 3 year warranty claim is largely BS, but regardless of that, this addition of the light voids your factory warranty. Now granted I am a contractor, but this saw didn't last four years. I bought my 780 in 2011 and it finally gave it up in 2018 after pretty heavy use, so I decided on the 779 because the 780 actually got 150 more expensive since my initial purchase. Three weeks ago the motor died on my 779 and that's BS. I don't understand how field windings just commit suicide, but that's apparently the issue and it's a 300 dollar part lol. The sad thing is the 779 and 780 now both use the downgraded 779 armature and windings. I wanted the new Makita with the shadow line and 12 inch blade, but it's 1350.00 and I could barely afford the 800 for the Milwaukee right now. I've become very jaded regarding Dewalt tools the past few years and have wound up replacing everything that dies or breaks prematurely with Makita and Milwaukee. I'm going to keep an eye open for a damaged 780 so I can repair that saw because I do love it and it is a strong machine.

  • @monteglover4133
    @monteglover4133 3 года назад +4

    NEVER!!! Trim the strands on your wire to fit into the connector that will create a fail point.

    • @DadPerfectDesigns
      @DadPerfectDesigns  3 года назад +1

      Look it here bud. We’re not sending anyone to the moon with this thing, we’re cutting wood. I know it’s not the best solution but it works. Thanks for watching and stay tuned to see if it fails.

    • @monteglover4133
      @monteglover4133 3 года назад +2

      @@DadPerfectDesigns
      This is from 30 years of wiring

    • @DadPerfectDesigns
      @DadPerfectDesigns  3 года назад +1

      @@monteglover4133 you must not have got my joke. I as well have been wiring for thirty years, not as a certified electrician, but as a certified do it your selfer and have never seen a splice or connector fail because I cut a few strands off it. You need to make choices in your life when faced with obstacles and not be scared to go off the beaten path. It’s how men are made. Yes I’m a rule breaker and have proven that life is going to be ok if you don’t abide by some standard set by some person that says there way is the only way. Think out side of the box sometimes. It’s fun.

    • @monteglover4133
      @monteglover4133 3 года назад +2

      @@DadPerfectDesigns
      Oops 🤢
      I’ve had to repair way to much bad wiring

    • @thegg5097
      @thegg5097 3 года назад +3

      @@monteglover4133 let me guess? You're a Union guy, right? 🤣

  • @ThekiBoran
    @ThekiBoran 3 года назад

    Does that void the warranty?

  • @DadPerfectDesigns
    @DadPerfectDesigns  3 года назад +4

    I guarantee everyone who doesn’t agree that the 780 is the same as the 779 bought the 780. Now they feel ridiculous for wasting their money. All I know is I did my research and have used the 780 and 779 for years at my job and there absolutely no difference is what material I can cut or the durability of the saw. If I’m wrong prove it.

  • @garys9718
    @garys9718 6 месяцев назад

    Yes, but others watching may want to keep their warranty without modifications of their miter saw.

  • @ReelHardFishing
    @ReelHardFishing 2 года назад

    Good job, but that voided your warranty by doing that.

    • @lancomedic
      @lancomedic 2 года назад

      I don't think that this guy cares about warranties. He buys tools from a guy on the street. If something breaks he'll just find a way to fix it. That's the fun of it.

  • @MrBigFishJoe
    @MrBigFishJoe 3 года назад

    I don’t find a DWS800

    • @DadPerfectDesigns
      @DadPerfectDesigns  3 года назад

      Ha. I can’t believe I didn’t notice that. It’s the DWS 780 not 800. Wow

  • @garys9718
    @garys9718 6 месяцев назад

    And your warranty is void if you change it too

    • @DadPerfectDesigns
      @DadPerfectDesigns  6 месяцев назад

      Its a Dewalt, who needs a warranty, plus the amount of money I make with this saw, Ill just buy a new one and do it all over again. It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize, accept, and celebrate those differences. Thanks for watching!

  • @M30263
    @M30263 2 года назад +2

    Yeah so the wiring. Where to start? Yeeesh! ? Finish with? Fubar??
    Do NOT do this to your saw folks. Cutting near half the strands will not only effect the voltage but those strands cut short will arc… and I mean arc, get hot and could very well start what those men in the big red trucks call a fire!
    However, if you have money to throw out the window and could care less about your tool, let alone new tool? Be a tool and test some shyt up! 🤦‍♂️
    OR just use the correct connectors and correct crimped. 🤷‍♂️
    Wise man “once” said “watch this!” (Shakes head)

    • @DadPerfectDesigns
      @DadPerfectDesigns  2 года назад

      Oh ye of little faith. I haven’t replied to any comments in a while but yours my friend deserves one. Maybe because it’s been a year and a review of the review is due. Not only does the saw still work, flawlessly, it actually seems to cut more square then you are as a person. I use the saw on a daily and have never come to a situation that the lack of voltage you speak of has caused me to not make a cut or blow a circuit. So either the saw puts out more then enough power to negate your theory or like I said in the video, power is power. Your going to get the same voltage no matter how many strands there are. Don’t believe, cut the end off your computer wire, strip out all but one strand, plug it in and touch and then tell me if there is a drop in voltage or amps. Do that, video it and I’ll eat my hat sir. Till then stay tuned because I have way sketcher stuff coming that will make you question your existence on this planet. Oh and thanks for watching. 🎉

  • @ReelHardFishing
    @ReelHardFishing 2 года назад

    I own the type 2

  • @evictioncarpentry2628
    @evictioncarpentry2628 3 года назад +4

    Its more then the light thats different. The 779 uses cheaper internal components compared to the 780.

    • @DadPerfectDesigns
      @DadPerfectDesigns  3 года назад +5

      I appreciate you watching the video but trust that I did my research and the key components are Identical. Here is a reference video to check out that goes in-depth about the comparison. Still not worth the extra cash. ruclips.net/video/GegsVcqRkXc/видео.html check it out.

    • @evictioncarpentry2628
      @evictioncarpentry2628 3 года назад +2

      @@DadPerfectDesigns Your extensive research is someone else's video. Got it.

    • @DadPerfectDesigns
      @DadPerfectDesigns  3 года назад +3

      @@evictioncarpentry2628 no not really. That was just ONE reference video. I’m not going to sit here and list out every video I watched, article I read, buddies saws that I took apart and service tech that I spoke with who confirmed that yes indeed, if you have the 780 or 799, the motors are the same, bearings are the same, etc. look. Look, The info is out there. I didn’t believe it either. You can look for yourself. If I’m wrong, show me.

    • @richtaylor712
      @richtaylor712 3 года назад

      Idk where you bought your light kit from but I just bought one from mmtools.com and it comes with the harness that plugs everything together. There should be absolutely zero cuttimg of wires in this install. It's literally a 10 minute job.

    • @DadPerfectDesigns
      @DadPerfectDesigns  3 года назад

      @@richtaylor712 I believe I mentioned that in my video that you get that harness if you want. I choose not to get it because I couldn’t find it on Amazon and that’s where I find most of my stuff. So if you found the harness, great!! This was more for the people that can’t find it or don’t want to spend the extra cash but still want to add the light. If I wasn’t filming then yes, even with cutting it would have taken about ten minutes to as well. Thanks for watching.

  • @senoJSR
    @senoJSR Год назад

    WATERHEAD ALERT.