@@samuelgazdacko4705 if the fights went fast enough you could even bring elemental shamans. Priest's shadow weaving was nice if you had a few warlocks.
That blizzard animation is hard to see where the edges are if you're in it. Easy to see if you're on the opposite side of the room. The tornado helps mark where the leading edge is - the blizzard covers half the room and rotates around, turns in the direction of the tornado
Can someone explain how he pulls threat while he's less than 75% of the tank's threat on the meter? This only happens with shadow priest and elemental shaman (never warlocks and hunters) and no one talks about it
Is there a way to show mana gains during combat and out or combat? The mana gains for me only float up when I use my shadow fiend. Any help would be appreciated!
TBC was great for Spriests. I was north of 1500 shadow b4 Wrath full raid shadow build I did all the healing for the healer group on most bosses though shadow healing it was great!
thanks for showing your talents! i started raiding as shadow in naxx and have not needed to use threat reduction talents so i am hoping i won't need to for TBC but maybe i will have to sacrifice some crit for some threat reduction. I refuse to not have silence
Imagine standing on ground effect and trying to dispel it, its like tryng to dispel hunters frost trap. Charred earth is thing under you :) you dispel it with stepping out of fire
Hey Danny, was just wondering if you had any content or info on viable or meta 5-man comps for S priests in TBC? Just starting to roster groups for initial rep grinds for phase 1
Spriest is one of the worst dps for 5mans due to lack of good cc. Not a lot of shackle undead stuff that is useful. You'll get passed over a lot for other cc classes that do way more dps than you and have aoe
on nightbane... how is it possible that he didnt use any fear on u... we have always big distance from him so i cant spam mindflay and when we are going closer we have insta fear
as much as i like to see that, there is definitely something wrong in PRT. Shadow priests do not do that type of damage, definitely status and rates have been revised. Back in the true TBC MB would never crit 4K with your geer, i was full T6 raiding SWP and rarely i would see over 5K. if you need more examples look for muq videos in nihilum (best guild there was) he was the top shadow priest and he would be making 1.6/1.7K sustained dps, pretty much shadow priest where amazing because they bring more to the raid then DPS, in fact they would never be in top 5 or even top 10, but the amount of healing and especially mana... now that's a different thing
What I noticed when watching the streaming and remembering the time I played the original TBC is that the meta DPS is not as unbalanced as the community thinks it is. Obviously if you privilege some classes (bloodlust rotation?) over others, actually the GAP looks much bigger than it really is.
Ye, well, both boomkin, ret paladin, enha shaman, elemental shaman, feral druid and so on can pull good dps but, which is more important, they bring utility. Every decent raid has have at least one ret, one boomkin, one enha... Also best possible dps group is feral druid + enha shaman + 3x bm hunter.
@@badanhatheman nah, arms as a support class (you bring arms only for + 4 % physical dmg on target) is in melee group with rogue (you bring it for expose armor), ret (imp crusader + crusader strike which keeps judgement of wisdom + buff), warrior tank and enha. Well, in other scenario you put surv hunter in melee group or surv + 2x bm + feral + enha. Arms in hunter group would be dps lose. Well, in fact fury warrior (highest dps melee) + 2x bm + feral + enha wouldnt be that bad - but fury to do any dmg requires t6/swp gear. But in most of raid comps there is simply no spot for fury warrior (you want one hunter group for sure because they have the highest dps and you need rogue for expose, arms for +4% dmg for everyone, ret, enha and tank in melee group).
@@krowaswieta7944 are you forgeting battle shout (that is a huge buff to his group) plus 4% to phys dmg to the hole raid. Maybe you can throw a rogue and retri in the same group and put hunters in the tank group 😂😂.
@@badanhatheman Mate, battle shout doesnt buff ranged attacks :). You know whats difference between arms warrior and hunter? Hunter has 50% higher dps in tbc :). Its not even exaggeration. Hunters have on avarage 30% higher dps than any other class and arms warrior 15% lower than any other class. And well, if youre try hard you just simply give all heros to hunter group (by switching shamans) for max dps increase.
Ahh this brings back so many memories! I played shadow all through out TBC and was consistently top5 DPS in my guild up until Black Temple. Ofc the player skill back then was a bit more varied. I recall having a lot of mana problems early on, like not being able to mind blast on cooldown but maybe that's not such a big problem now that everyone plays more optimally. Looking forward to follow your journey :)
No need to dispel princes shadow word pain in phase 1. It does very little damage, nobody including tank is taking much dmg, and it can help with threat generation
As someone who just played it through an entire private server cycle, get used to being bottom of the dps charts, bottom of loot priority, no significant upgrades in T5, and buff bot for the raid since you have improved fortitude talent. It's fun but there are significant drawbacks. Also, guilds usually just have 1 spriest for the whole 25 man raid so it's hard to find guilds that need one.
@@flo157g Warlock is really popular and does highest dps along with hunter. Boomkin is really helpful for raid but it's kind of like shadowpriest. Only 1 is needed and their dps isn't great nor are they going to be top of gear priority.
@@TheDigitalPanther hmm Hard to decide really, i played a hunter when I started in tbc (never raided tho inward like 11) was fun as far as I can remeber, warlock sounds really cool aswell with summoning demons and throwing dots and stuff but I heard all they do is spam demonbolt? Which doesn’t sound so appealing for me and spriest I just really like how it looks and think maybe I can heal some dungeons while leveling to get easier in groups really hard choice for me since there is only one boost :(
@@flo157g Warlocks sacrifice their demon to get a buff that increases shadow damage so you won't have it out during raid. And people are right, you pretty much only spam shadowbolt and refresh curse of doom on bossfights while occasionally popping trinkets and lifetap for mana.
Do i see right that the mage is just spamming fireball and nothing else and is nr. 1 in dmg? How is that even fun to play xD Guess I wont pick mage then.. :( Is frost any good in raids?
Welcome to classic DPS. Fire mages spam scorch mostly. If you play frost you will be doing less damage with the same level of gear, and all you do is spam Frostbolt.
I wish recount / details counted your buffs/utility as damage done as well. For instance, if I buff a warrior with blessing of might, whatever % of his attack that I contributed would count as my damage instead. In this case, spriest increasing shadow damage for warlocks would count for them. It doesn't make much sense, but it would really incentivize buffing and helping people because your contribution is more obviously reflected on the charts.
This was not like it was back in the day. Spriest still had mana issues early on in t4, popping mana pots on CD and shadowfiending on heroism/bloodlust didnt prevent that. However, looks like Blizz is going for the casual approach :(
@@TheGlorion I think it's because classic tbc will be release on 2.4 version so the priest and other class will probably be more powerfull than there were at the real tbc release wich was of course 2.0. Just for the reason I may not play the game I mean it's look so easy doing all the boss first try with blue gear looks so easy... After 2 raid I'll get bored
Too easy, definitely pservers raids are harder, like more health, more dmg, improved AI, complete and unerfed boss/adds skill set. For example aoe tanking Moroes adds, thats impossible in pservers, the adds hit too hard, this means tank dying or healers pulling agro, also they often dispel each other, CC is a must. Another example, killing Shade of Aran w/o him casting polymorph, that was only possible in late TBC, because of all nerfs and improved itemization.
Yea most people say it's too easy but also that it's just kara and kara was never hard. This is still on beta so maybe they will buff something for release, who knows.
@@TheZdowd it was Hard back then. Now we are better gamers, with better PCS, better internet, and we have many sources of good information. If they simply replicate some tbc version from 2007, most guilds will stomprofl karazhan, mainly those who cleared naxx. Add a lvl boost to The formula and you have another fiasco (classic was too easy). This is not The same not even close to The same experience of vanilla. I'm not saying classic wasnt fun, pvp wise i enjoyed it, but raids were deplorable.
I respec'd to shadow because holy was getting boring and so far shadow has been LESS fun. I have no idea how people enjoy it and I was hoping to find out ways to be able to enjoy the class or to see if I was playing the class wrong, but no.. it seems like it really is just about spaming 2 or 3 moves over and over.
Then you're doing it wrong. You "spam" (use) vampiric touch, shadow word:pain, mind blast, shadow word:death, mind flay and devouring plauge (if you're undead), so that's 6 skills. Then of course vampiric embrace, shadow fiend and, most of the times on bosses, fade. And if you're good, you're ALWAYS ready to off heal or/and shield yourself or others, dispel and cc using mind control/shackle (if the mobs are humanoids/undead). It's not hard to play shadow priest, but to play it good is a lot trickier. Most shadow priests pretty much suck. I outdps shadow priests (as shadow myself) every single time, even when they've had a lot better gear than me. Maybe you don't like dpsing? I find holy priest (well, healing in general) to be incredibly boring and easy myself. I can only heal for no more than an hour before I get so bored my skin starts crawling, so I end up dpsing too with smite, holy fire, wand and dots.
Dude are you kidding?!? This class is faceroll DPS... literally one of the most boring specs I've ever played. But yeah, great for drinking beer while raiding!
Feels good to see spriest with 85% mana halfway thru fight.
Impossible, show me your Manahaque.exe
oh right haha, in classic they went oom in like a few seconds right?
@@keenzo1998 SPs were in classic raids? :O
@@samuelgazdacko4705 every week brother, since phase 1
@@samuelgazdacko4705 if the fights went fast enough you could even bring elemental shamans. Priest's shadow weaving was nice if you had a few warlocks.
I miss Kara. Good memories. I was a Bear Tank and Off Tank on my first runs through it way back in the day.
I've always been a shadow priest. Always. Thanks for getting me back into the game danny.
oooh boy so looking forward to karazhan and all the tbc content! cant wait :D
Love the long video gameplay! Great way to spend my lunch break!
That blizzard animation is hard to see where the edges are if you're in it. Easy to see if you're on the opposite side of the room. The tornado helps mark where the leading edge is - the blizzard covers half the room and rotates around, turns in the direction of the tornado
Can someone explain how he pulls threat while he's less than 75% of the tank's threat on the meter? This only happens with shadow priest and elemental shaman (never warlocks and hunters) and no one talks about it
Is there a way to show mana gains during combat and out or combat? The mana gains for me only float up when I use my shadow fiend. Any help would be appreciated!
You cant dispell charred earth on nightbane, its caused by the ground effect. Mass dispel may do something, never tried it
TBC was great for Spriests. I was north of 1500 shadow b4 Wrath full raid shadow build I did all the healing for the healer group on most bosses though shadow healing it was great!
The debuff on Nightbane is displayed as "magic" but shouldn't ; it fades as soon as you come out of the charred area on the ground.
thanks for showing your talents! i started raiding as shadow in naxx and have not needed to use threat reduction talents so i am hoping i won't need to for TBC but maybe i will have to sacrifice some crit for some threat reduction. I refuse to not have silence
I think you will have to since there wont be fury prot to generate max threat generator
hey man,
what addon do you use for seing incoming mana from vampiric embrace?
Please reply !! @DannyGaminGnC
so sweet merry christmas Danny
Hey Danny! Saw you at Gruul's Lair and danced with you :) (holy paladin) just wanted to say love ur videos been watching since Classic came out.
On top of all the other utility you're also buffing the Warlocks your girlfriend tells you not to worry about.
Great vid danny can't wait for more tbc content
same :D
Imagine standing on ground effect and trying to dispel it, its like tryng to dispel hunters frost trap. Charred earth is thing under you :) you dispel it with stepping out of fire
Hey Danny, was just wondering if you had any content or info on viable or meta 5-man comps for S priests in TBC? Just starting to roster groups for initial rep grinds for phase 1
Spriest is one of the worst dps for 5mans due to lack of good cc. Not a lot of shackle undead stuff that is useful. You'll get passed over a lot for other cc classes that do way more dps than you and have aoe
@@TheDigitalPanther the dps ceiling for spriest is much higher than people think but the rotation is very unforgiving.
on nightbane... how is it possible that he didnt use any fear on u... we have always big distance from him so i cant spam mindflay and when we are going closer we have insta fear
"I see the blizzard"
proceeds to almost die from blizzard and then actually dies from another cast later on
Nice vid man❤️ u know what lvl / skill u need to make mooncloth/spellcloth/ shadow cloth
350 :)
@@niclasquistgaard5760 ty man ! U need to be lvl 70 or lvl works ?
@@kristofferbergman5973 pretty sure lvl 60 is good enough. So you can stack tailoring on all your alts :)
@@niclasquistgaard5760 yeah thats my plan for easy gold 😃😃 ty for info
I've never played TBC. I think I'll go Shadow Priest, this video kinda helped me to decide haha
as much as i like to see that, there is definitely something wrong in PRT. Shadow priests do not do that type of damage, definitely status and rates have been revised. Back in the true TBC MB would never crit 4K with your geer, i was full T6 raiding SWP and rarely i would see over 5K. if you need more examples look for muq videos in nihilum (best guild there was) he was the top shadow priest and he would be making 1.6/1.7K sustained dps, pretty much shadow priest where amazing because they bring more to the raid then DPS, in fact they would never be in top 5 or even top 10, but the amount of healing and especially mana... now that's a different thing
Danny i think that You can an addon which shows dots above enemies bars. I don't remember the name of that addon.
Its the beta, don't think most addons are working
What I noticed when watching the streaming and remembering the time I played the original TBC is that the meta DPS is not as unbalanced as the community thinks it is. Obviously if you privilege some classes (bloodlust rotation?) over others, actually the GAP looks much bigger than it really is.
Ye, well, both boomkin, ret paladin, enha shaman, elemental shaman, feral druid and so on can pull good dps but, which is more important, they bring utility. Every decent raid has have at least one ret, one boomkin, one enha... Also best possible dps group is feral druid + enha shaman + 3x bm hunter.
@@krowaswieta7944 take it off 1 hunter, put an arms warrior and gtg
@@badanhatheman nah, arms as a support class (you bring arms only for + 4 % physical dmg on target) is in melee group with rogue (you bring it for expose armor), ret (imp crusader + crusader strike which keeps judgement of wisdom + buff), warrior tank and enha. Well, in other scenario you put surv hunter in melee group or surv + 2x bm + feral + enha. Arms in hunter group would be dps lose.
Well, in fact fury warrior (highest dps melee) + 2x bm + feral + enha wouldnt be that bad - but fury to do any dmg requires t6/swp gear. But in most of raid comps there is simply no spot for fury warrior (you want one hunter group for sure because they have the highest dps and you need rogue for expose, arms for +4% dmg for everyone, ret, enha and tank in melee group).
@@krowaswieta7944 are you forgeting battle shout (that is a huge buff to his group) plus 4% to phys dmg to the hole raid. Maybe you can throw a rogue and retri in the same group and put hunters in the tank group 😂😂.
@@badanhatheman Mate, battle shout doesnt buff ranged attacks :).
You know whats difference between arms warrior and hunter? Hunter has 50% higher dps in tbc :). Its not even exaggeration. Hunters have on avarage 30% higher dps than any other class and arms warrior 15% lower than any other class.
And well, if youre try hard you just simply give all heros to hunter group (by switching shamans) for max dps increase.
Ahh this brings back so many memories! I played shadow all through out TBC and was consistently top5 DPS in my guild up until Black Temple. Ofc the player skill back then was a bit more varied. I recall having a lot of mana problems early on, like not being able to mind blast on cooldown but maybe that's not such a big problem now that everyone plays more optimally.
Looking forward to follow your journey :)
Lol I have over 1000 in naxx, but that gear still looks better than mine?
what is better to lvl from 60 to 70, shadow or disco?
Disco bro 🕺
No need to dispel princes shadow word pain in phase 1. It does very little damage, nobody including tank is taking much dmg, and it can help with threat generation
affliction warlock on top dmg?
i wanna play shadow priest in tbc and this motivates me even more
As someone who just played it through an entire private server cycle, get used to being bottom of the dps charts, bottom of loot priority, no significant upgrades in T5, and buff bot for the raid since you have improved fortitude talent. It's fun but there are significant drawbacks. Also, guilds usually just have 1 spriest for the whole 25 man raid so it's hard to find guilds that need one.
@@TheDigitalPanther would it be better to go boomkin or warlöck?
@@flo157g Warlock is really popular and does highest dps along with hunter. Boomkin is really helpful for raid but it's kind of like shadowpriest. Only 1 is needed and their dps isn't great nor are they going to be top of gear priority.
@@TheDigitalPanther hmm Hard to decide really, i played a hunter when I started in tbc (never raided tho inward like 11) was fun as far as I can remeber, warlock sounds really cool aswell with summoning demons and throwing dots and stuff but I heard all they do is spam demonbolt? Which doesn’t sound so appealing for me and spriest I just really like how it looks and think maybe I can heal some dungeons while leveling to get easier in groups really hard choice for me since there is only one boost :(
@@flo157g Warlocks sacrifice their demon to get a buff that increases shadow damage so you won't have it out during raid. And people are right, you pretty much only spam shadowbolt and refresh curse of doom on bossfights while occasionally popping trinkets and lifetap for mana.
Danny is it scryers or draeneis ?
*Aldor
blizzard comes at a clockwise rotation and you run into the blizzard and follow the pathing...
The content will be gated? I know in original tbc t6 was available at the very beginning
T5 and T6 were not available at the beginning.
how is sp in pvp and pve ? worth playing ??
I think most data points to them being awful
you have a video where u go over ur macros?
pve talent tree?
Nice display of skill here
Seems like all those streamers have already finished tbc before it is released :P
I heard spriests had horrible mana sustain in TBC but hell youre mana rarely went below half
You picked Scryers? lol
havent done this since 2008 but that shade of aran blizzard looked something unclear where it is :p prolly easy if u know how it works ofc
Farking Blizzard, the spell AND the company
Server name
can anyone tell me at 1:40 what spell crits for 2438?
Shadow word: death
lol greifing that blue portal xD
from where did he come? his englisch sounds like a india
17:10 if you had a hunter in your group that shit would be no problem
tbc pre bis gear video pls
I think the neck that drops of trash is better then neck that drops from prince.
I would really like to play a shadow, but my main was always a warlock and they are just too similar and don't have AE.
Warlock is the most boring spec in tbc in pve. You might get burned out playing lock. PVP is kinda fun though
@@krowaswieta7944 massive shadow bolt crits is actually pretty fun
@@mrmurphymil You literally spam only one button though except life tap.
@@krowaswieta7944 but its a nuclear button that has nice sound and animation
@@krowaswieta7944 when you get a crit you get big number on screen then second crit even bigger number!!
Blizzard REALLY needs to make these bosses harder.... Being able to do these bosses with ease in blues makes me sad.
One of your warlocks just kept shadowbolting mindlessly.... I bet was a warrior in classic. Uric sounds like a warrior name
that's all you do as warlock in tbc
Do i see right that the mage is just spamming fireball and nothing else and is nr. 1 in dmg? How is that even fun to play xD Guess I wont pick mage then.. :( Is frost any good in raids?
Welcome to classic DPS. Fire mages spam scorch mostly. If you play frost you will be doing less damage with the same level of gear, and all you do is spam Frostbolt.
how do you change ur priest to male？
Bro you changed to Male Undead whaaat
VE Is generally a wasted global in pve btw. Just causes alot of unnecessary threat and insignificant healing
Not true, if there's any kind of aoe damage happening to your group its an easy 250 hps on 5 people; 1250 effective hps. That is pretty significant.
I wish recount / details counted your buffs/utility as damage done as well. For instance, if I buff a warrior with blessing of might, whatever % of his attack that I contributed would count as my damage instead. In this case, spriest increasing shadow damage for warlocks would count for them. It doesn't make much sense, but it would really incentivize buffing and helping people because your contribution is more obviously reflected on the charts.
No more mana problems as priest in tbc, uh?
This was not like it was back in the day. Spriest still had mana issues early on in t4, popping mana pots on CD and shadowfiending on heroism/bloodlust didnt prevent that. However, looks like Blizz is going for the casual approach :(
@@TheGlorion I think it's because classic tbc will be release on 2.4 version so the priest and other class will probably be more powerfull than there were at the real tbc release wich was of course 2.0.
Just for the reason I may not play the game I mean it's look so easy doing all the boss first try with blue gear looks so easy... After 2 raid I'll get bored
Wow, curator is a joke, when people get gear he will die before he ever evocates... I thought he is supposed to take much less dmg normally.
And I remember wiping on him in tbc, we really had no idea how to play
Ok karas boss health pools are for sure nerfed hopefully just for beta and testing purposes
So 1000dps with vampiric touch up is equal to 250 mp5? That's amazing!
Yup
Hi dude! Give me pls ur macros. I would look at this
Plyaing with GSE is not playing. I'm sry to say that .....
you make it look so easy
watching you not put up Vampiric embrace on Terestian was hard to watch D:
pve shadowpriest looks fun :)
Not a single rogue in the raid...this doesnt look good fellas T_T
rogues are for pvp
yeah now that Mind Blast has no more insane agro.
so nub shadow priest omg
Too easy, definitely pservers raids are harder, like more health, more dmg, improved AI, complete and unerfed boss/adds skill set. For example aoe tanking Moroes adds, thats impossible in pservers, the adds hit too hard, this means tank dying or healers pulling agro, also they often dispel each other, CC is a must. Another example, killing Shade of Aran w/o him casting polymorph, that was only possible in late TBC, because of all nerfs and improved itemization.
i agree completely. ive now watched the gruuls lair and kara and the values of everything is way off. moroes didn't even 1 shot him.
Yea most people say it's too easy but also that it's just kara and kara was never hard. This is still on beta so maybe they will buff something for release, who knows.
Kara was never hard.
@@TheZdowd it was Hard back then. Now we are better gamers, with better PCS, better internet, and we have many sources of good information. If they simply replicate some tbc version from 2007, most guilds will stomprofl karazhan, mainly those who cleared naxx. Add a lvl boost to The formula and you have another fiasco (classic was too easy). This is not The same not even close to The same experience of vanilla. I'm not saying classic wasnt fun, pvp wise i enjoyed it, but raids were deplorable.
@@marlon7442 Kara was only hard back then for about a month. I get what you're saying, though.
I respec'd to shadow because holy was getting boring and so far shadow has been LESS fun.
I have no idea how people enjoy it and I was hoping to find out ways to be able to enjoy the class or to see if I was playing the class wrong, but no.. it seems like it really is just about spaming 2 or 3 moves over and over.
Then you're doing it wrong. You "spam" (use) vampiric touch, shadow word:pain, mind blast, shadow word:death, mind flay and devouring plauge (if you're undead), so that's 6 skills. Then of course vampiric embrace, shadow fiend and, most of the times on bosses, fade. And if you're good, you're ALWAYS ready to off heal or/and shield yourself or others, dispel and cc using mind control/shackle (if the mobs are humanoids/undead).
It's not hard to play shadow priest, but to play it good is a lot trickier. Most shadow priests pretty much suck. I outdps shadow priests (as shadow myself) every single time, even when they've had a lot better gear than me.
Maybe you don't like dpsing? I find holy priest (well, healing in general) to be incredibly boring and easy myself. I can only heal for no more than an hour before I get so bored my skin starts crawling, so I end up dpsing too with smite, holy fire, wand and dots.
STOP TO STRAFF WTF . . .
Dude are you kidding?!? This class is faceroll DPS... literally one of the most boring specs I've ever played. But yeah, great for drinking beer while raiding!