How the Dark Knight Killed the DCEU

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  • It's been ten years since the release of the best Batman movie the Dark Knight. Since then we've seen the rise and fall of the DC cinematic universe. To Celebrate that anniversary your favorite lobster reviewer had decided to look back and see how things became the way they are now and how the success of the Dark Knight destroyed everything else.
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Комментарии • 8 тыс.

  • @lobstermagnetreview
    @lobstermagnetreview  6 лет назад +522

    Thanks to everyone who helped blow up this video. Made a new video with my recommendation on how to save the DCEU. Check it out here:ruclips.net/video/6_lOoJpws3g/видео.html

    • @casimiriii5941
      @casimiriii5941 6 лет назад +5

      Lobster Magnet's Review: The Channel If I was DC I'd turn the TV DC universe into the Movie universe as well.
      They could connect the movies to what's going on in the TV shows and use the same actors and actresses too.

    •  6 лет назад

      Lobster Magnet's Review: The Channel Do you have an email? I want to send you a photo.

    • @mnmnnm586
      @mnmnnm586 6 лет назад +1

      Lobster Magnet's Review: The Channel
      You sound like Fred from Scooby Doo. I like it.

    • @Auron1Roxas2
      @Auron1Roxas2 6 лет назад +3

      The DCEU doesn't need to be saved you fucking idiot.

    • @mctaguer
      @mctaguer 6 лет назад

      I don't often find new (to me) vids like this that are good. This was GREAT. Good insights, rants and made me laugh my ass off! Thanks!

  • @pritampandey9519
    @pritampandey9519 5 лет назад +2427

    The way Heath's joker says "Look at me" is more intimidating than Doomsday and Steppenwolf combined.
    We lost a legend.
    ( *Thanks for 2k likes* )

    • @banking8297
      @banking8297 5 лет назад +26

      you realize doomsday can kill everything in his path. Joker would laugh at doomsday, and doomsday will laugh too.

    • @pritampandey9519
      @pritampandey9519 5 лет назад +33

      @@banking8297 I am just wondering about what joker will do with supes

    • @pritampandey9519
      @pritampandey9519 5 лет назад +51

      @@shataniksarkar7382 just imagine joker confronting superman after all the destruction he did in Metropolis.
      He will simply say, I just wanted to see what you do, and you didn't disappoint, you let thousand people die. Hihaiahaha
      Your moral, your code is a bad joke,dropped at the first sign of trouble, You are only good as the world allows you to be.
      I know who you are, You are a lone alien trying to fit in this chaotic world,who will cast you out like a leper.
      Wow. just imagine

    • @politereminder6284
      @politereminder6284 5 лет назад +3

      @@banking8297 In the comics yes, but the movie made him a mindless pile of monster.

    • @pritampandey9519
      @pritampandey9519 5 лет назад +6

      @Project Trade has to be deluded Marvel fanboys

  • @vasylpark2149
    @vasylpark2149 6 лет назад +10666

    DCEU killed itself with terrible movies, lack of foresight, and planning. Mainly trying to invest in the justice league without building those characters up first

    • @Ovegrow120
      @Ovegrow120 6 лет назад +554

      Boom, right here- This man can save you almost 20 minutes of your life with a nail on the head statement that should be obvious to anyone that has ever seen a proper movie.

    • @MsWillowbayOrelse
      @MsWillowbayOrelse 6 лет назад +81

      Exactly

    • @Nabiki73
      @Nabiki73 6 лет назад +437

      Preach it, brother. In the end, this boils down to one thing that the fat cats at DC and Warner lacked: PATIENCE. Marvel took a freaking DECADE to build up their cinematic universe.

    • @jasonscott7527
      @jasonscott7527 6 лет назад +37

      I think there ganna do a full reboot with the solo joker movie

    • @seanmansfield4853
      @seanmansfield4853 6 лет назад +210

      They tried to be the Marvel Cinematic Universe but without waiting to put in the effort to be the MCU.

  • @nicholas8073
    @nicholas8073 5 лет назад +3741

    The Dark Knight killed the DCEU because Christopher Nolan set the bar way too high

    • @funwithtropes69
      @funwithtropes69 5 лет назад +61

      Nah. Nolan doesn't want the "realistic" trilogy to be involved with the universe, which is hypocritical since all of those movies' third acts are downright cartoonish, impossible, and fantastical compsred to their first two acts.

    • @thatcherfreeman
      @thatcherfreeman 5 лет назад +145

      Joe Martinez What was so cartoony about the end of The Dark Knight?

    • @pittland44
      @pittland44 5 лет назад +72

      I could not agree more. I also think they pressed Batman back into service way too quickly. On top of that WB/DC failed to truly account for Marvel. That is they saw and envied Marvel's success, but they failed to truly grasp that Marvel moved the goal posts and with the release of The Avengers the whole paradigm of superhero movies had changed. DC thought they could still ride the Dark Knight train but they don't have any of the talent or ingenuity that made the Nolan movies work nor did they have the heart or humor that made the Marvel movies work.

    • @funwithtropes69
      @funwithtropes69 5 лет назад +11

      @@thatcherfreeman, the transformation of Two-Face, his immediate rampage and downfall, is so cartoonish I wish the film ends with the Joker being defeated rather than him going down.

    • @thatcherfreeman
      @thatcherfreeman 5 лет назад +71

      Joe Martinez I see where you're coming from but idk if I'd say that's anywhere near as cartoonish as most of what's in any super hero movie nowadays. It's still in a level more realistic and gritty than, say, Man of Steel.

  • @lutherkling79
    @lutherkling79 5 лет назад +3828

    I don't care. Christian Bale was a freaking awesome Batman

    • @a.ychristian3562
      @a.ychristian3562 5 лет назад +112

      Green Beast79. Nobody's arguing with you.

    • @shearer1682
      @shearer1682 5 лет назад +18

      Voice was shocking in the sequel. Batman is purely good writing good look good voice. Bale had good writing which wasn't him

    • @davidb8523
      @davidb8523 5 лет назад +7

      Exactly

    • @TeezyFFA
      @TeezyFFA 5 лет назад +6

      Yes

    • @merwilliamson4918
      @merwilliamson4918 5 лет назад +53

      christen bale IS BATMAN!!!!

  • @larkstonguesinaspic4814
    @larkstonguesinaspic4814 6 лет назад +1296

    I said it before and I'll say it again: The Dark Knight was so great because it wasn't made to be a superhero movie. It was basically a crime film.

    • @AeneasGemini
      @AeneasGemini 6 лет назад +168

      No, it was great because it had good inspirations, excellent casting, brilliant directing and so much more. It's the people involved who make a difference, not the genre

    • @ninadpathak6399
      @ninadpathak6399 5 лет назад +35

      Ya definitely a large part of the contribution.
      But I tend to agree. DK was more crime Film than just superhero movie.

    • @OnionChoppingNinja
      @OnionChoppingNinja 5 лет назад +42

      I couldn't agree with you more. That's why I say that Infinity War is the greatest comic book movie out there.
      Because the dark knight trilogy are not comic book movies. They're crime thrillers with a razor thin wrapping of a comic book around it that could easily been peeled off and still leave a solid movie.

    • @larkstonguesinaspic4814
      @larkstonguesinaspic4814 5 лет назад +24

      @@OnionChoppingNinja Batman begins and dark knight rises are pretty superheroish, but The Dark knight yeah it's a great crime drama about an anarchist causing chaos and cops + a vigilante who dresses up as a bat tries to stop him. Seriously if you took the batman characters out of it, it would still be a great crime drama and people would probably compare it with Heat Instead of super hero movies.

    • @antona.1327
      @antona.1327 5 лет назад +28

      OnionChoppingNinja, let me explain why your point is wrong: 1. The Dark Knight trilogy are comic book movies de-facto. Comic book movie is a term that refers to any movie based on a source material that was published in the form of a comic book. It's an objective definition. So, The Dark Knight, A History in Violence, and Road to Perdition are all comic book movies. 2. The idea of putting Batman and his villains in a real-life-like setting and portraying their stories as an exaggerated, mildly realistic crime tales has been a staple of Batman's comics since Denny O'Neil's and Neal Adam's run on Batman. So The Dark Knight trilogy is perfectly in line with the comic book lore. 3. Infinity War was not even like the comics, buddy. The Dark Knight had more to do with the comics than Infinity War. Infinity War couldn't even get the motivation of Thanos right. The movie made him into a generic social-Darwinist. Thanos was not that in the comics. He was a madman, remember? That's his name - Thanos, The Mad Titan. The Dark Knight was so pedantic about respecting its source of inspiration, the iconic graphic novel The Long Halloween, it homages that novel by putting Two-Face in the middle of the third act. Which is exactly where Two-Face appears in the novel. The novel contains of twelve individual issues, and Two-Face appears in the last two.

  • @BigroomBlitz1
    @BigroomBlitz1 5 лет назад +1121

    The Dark Knight is the one movie I can't stop rewatching, it' so good

    • @bryans3436
      @bryans3436 4 года назад +6

      It was good trilogy

    • @TheVladMan.
      @TheVladMan. 4 года назад +9

      Batman Begins and Superman Returns should’ve started the DCEU.
      Both movies were one year apart from each other. Both movies were fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. Both movies looked and felt like they could’ve been connected.
      Superman Returns referenced Gotham City. Not to mention, it grossed more money at the box office than Batman Begins.
      I Am Legend teased a crossover between them for May 2010. The billboard in Times Square had Christian Bale’s Batman logo and Brandon Routh’s Superman logo merged together.

    • @user-qz4pr9vg1e
      @user-qz4pr9vg1e 4 года назад +4

      Its simply the best

    • @pongchannel.
      @pongchannel. 4 года назад +3

      Agreed

    • @zekeyeager1756
      @zekeyeager1756 4 года назад

      Ok but it’s super under appreciated

  • @thetechnocrat4979
    @thetechnocrat4979 4 года назад +144

    The Dark Knight Trilogy:
    ' Victory has defeated you '
    - Bane to DC.

  • @YksiSuomalainen
    @YksiSuomalainen 5 лет назад +207

    Don't blame the Dark Knight for everything other people did after it.

    • @noobslayer8310
      @noobslayer8310 2 года назад +4

      More of a compliment don't you think?

  • @TotallyHateit
    @TotallyHateit 5 лет назад +134

    Edgy actually works for some characters, I liked Harley in suicide squad. But dear god edgy did not work for The Joker who was basically a psychotic fuckboy in his thirties.

    • @jaredtgriffinatyahoo
      @jaredtgriffinatyahoo 5 лет назад +3

      Oh come on, they gave him nothing to do!

    • @karimshebeika8010
      @karimshebeika8010 5 лет назад +3

      @@jaredtgriffinatyahoo to be fair I was ok with Suicide Squad. I always get so hyped from trailers that disappointments have become the norm for me so I learned to deal with them. Suicide Squad was less disappointing than I expected

  • @rshah03
    @rshah03 5 лет назад +2370

    Two words: Zach Snyder.
    Wonder Woman did well bc look who directed it. Not Zach Snyder.

    • @thomassmith2891
      @thomassmith2891 5 лет назад +61

      Wonder women was garb though

    • @bounty8438
      @bounty8438 5 лет назад +121

      Suicide squad wasn’t directed by Snyder. It was the rushed nature of the film

    • @GeorgeMillerUSA
      @GeorgeMillerUSA 5 лет назад +57

      Wonder Woman is terrible imo.

    • @GeorgeMillerUSA
      @GeorgeMillerUSA 5 лет назад +86

      @@bounty8438 Blame WB. They wanted the movie to have humor and completely remove Joker’s abusive relationship with Harley.

    • @bounty8438
      @bounty8438 5 лет назад +33

      George Miller, oh I have some very strong words for WB. They screwed up BVS and panicked so they cut down SS. Now they just butchered JL and are pushing back SHAZAM into April.

  • @kenc12
    @kenc12 6 лет назад +1122

    When you get mocked by teen titans go just pack it in man

    • @teddyriggs1305
      @teddyriggs1305 6 лет назад +24

      Than Titans came out
      Shit

    • @jmaxpaine
      @jmaxpaine 6 лет назад +6

      Ken_Ken 20 for some reason I read that in Jordan Peterson’s voice lol

    • @adamfeliciano6321
      @adamfeliciano6321 6 лет назад

      ^lmao probably because he said ,man

    • @ltsalte9200
      @ltsalte9200 6 лет назад +31

      @Scott Summers only sheep call sheep sheep, ya sheep

    • @MrlspPrt
      @MrlspPrt 6 лет назад +8

      In Soviet Russia, the parody parodies you...

  • @Quincy_Morris
    @Quincy_Morris 5 лет назад +263

    Batman has always been different from the rest of the DC universe and a lot of creators fail to appreciate that.

    • @AttackMyClone
      @AttackMyClone 4 года назад +32

      This is probably true.
      As someone who grew up watching the Batman Animated Series, I personally think Batman is better on its own.
      You put indestructible aliens, superpowered Amazonian women and a group of intergalactic police force and it all becomes uninteresting to me.

    • @JV-yq7dx
      @JV-yq7dx 4 года назад +14

      AttackMyClone ikr, I never understood how people say DC is darker than marvel, I’m not saying Marvel is dark, being lighthearted is great, but apart from batman, what’s so dark about DC, I love both but for different reasons and apart from batman they’re not so different, both can be lighthearted and dark and work perfectly if done right, compare the dark knight and Spider-Man, then compare Logan and the original Superman movie, done right both tones are good, look at justice league and suicide squad, two bright and colorful movies that are horrible and Thor the dark world, they can do both and debating that one is better bc it’s dark is pointless and the other can do it too

    • @notexalted800
      @notexalted800 4 года назад +5

      @@JV-yq7dx DC is a lot darker than Marvel in the comics. Movies I say would be the same.
      A example that comes to mind of DC darkness is how Dr. Light (If you remember him from the Teen Titans Cartoon) actually raped Elongated Man's wife when he was onboard the Watchtower. He was a serial rapist and extremely powerful, so the Justice League decide to alter his mind to make him a weak villain via Zatanna magic. They also alter Batman's mind as he disagree with this.

    • @parkerboy795
      @parkerboy795 4 года назад +2

      @@notexalted800 No, DC isn't darker in comics. They both have dark and lighthearted stories.
      As for that story, it was a terrible story. Alot of DC fans think so. That's an example of being dark without proper reason. It doesn't help that that became the defining characterization of Dr Light.

    • @notexalted800
      @notexalted800 4 года назад +3

      @@parkerboy795 No, DC is more darker than marvel generally

  • @ell4092
    @ell4092 5 лет назад +362

    A film like the dark knight could only work with Batman. Bruce Wayne is just a normal guy with some martial arts training and money, and so making it feel like a crime thriller worked because that is kind of what Batman is. An alien in neon tights? Not so much.

    • @ell4092
      @ell4092 5 лет назад +1

      Samir Simo i was referring to the whole trilogy, not just the one movie

    • @ell4092
      @ell4092 5 лет назад +6

      debkamal mullick yeah. unfortunately, the mcu has eliminated that tension by never letting anyone die, so that’s why I’m glad that infinity war ended the way it did

    • @ericktorres4055
      @ericktorres4055 5 лет назад +1

      @debkamal mullick IF THEY'RE MORE POWERFUL THAN THANOS, WHY IN THE FUCK JUSTICE LEAGUE SUCKED AND FLOPPED OVER INFINITY WAR WITH OVER 2 BILLION WORLD WIDE AND A SNAP???

    • @ericktorres4055
      @ericktorres4055 5 лет назад +1

      @Booper Dooper Just like The Joker was introduced in the DCEU and was a complete shit

    • @ericktorres4055
      @ericktorres4055 5 лет назад +1

      @Booper Dooper we're talking about movies

  • @colleenross8752
    @colleenross8752 5 лет назад +260

    Merging that playful toy commercial with that terrifying hostage video (that Heath filmed himself ) was genius

  • @ilo2224
    @ilo2224 6 лет назад +751

    Original Batman films had its own *Soul*
    Nolan’s Batman had its own *Soul*
    The MCU has its own *Soul*
    The DCEU doesn’t have anything, just an empty shell of a studio shat out pice of rubbish

    • @TheDestroyer73
      @TheDestroyer73 6 лет назад +50

      AND its always trying to be "dark" for some fuck sake reason

    • @dirtmcgirt9420
      @dirtmcgirt9420 6 лет назад +1

      Put up your own money and make the movies how you want! Stop bitching!

    • @the_mastermage
      @the_mastermage 6 лет назад +7

      well DC has always been Dark except for Captain Marvel, and what we have seen now is not nearly as Dark as the Comics really are, Blackest Night or Final Crisis that is Dark

    • @captainsave-a-ho1509
      @captainsave-a-ho1509 6 лет назад +7

      It does have a soul. It has the soul of an idiotic edge-lord.

    • @badreality2
      @badreality2 6 лет назад +16

      @@dirtmcgirt9420 Yeah, like the average Joe can crowd-fund 40 million dollars, to make a movie, that theaters will show. Oh, and make sure to add two million dollars to that, for licensing fees. Idiot.

  • @nielsmichiels1939
    @nielsmichiels1939 5 лет назад +934

    *"How the Dark Knight Killed the DCEU"*
    By being better in every way.
    question answered.
    you don't need to watch the video, move along.

    • @brothersforever2147
      @brothersforever2147 5 лет назад +6

      Thank you

    • @kaisac.
      @kaisac. 5 лет назад +25

      @Infinite Warlock you're on some mad drugs if you think the dark knight is only a bit better than the dceu

    • @Mr.Funnyguy194
      @Mr.Funnyguy194 5 лет назад

      laz kar yes but English please, besides,the movies were only because of the good was because of the writing, good cgi(there wasn’t much cgi anyway), amazing acting and good choreography... nothing special, it definitely doesn’t deserve praise for that

    • @Mr.Funnyguy194
      @Mr.Funnyguy194 5 лет назад +1

      Whoops, don’t quote me on “English please”

    • @cody_638
      @cody_638 5 лет назад +3

      @@Mr.Funnyguy194 "English please"
      -Red Rosenberg

  • @ZybakTV
    @ZybakTV 5 лет назад +1262

    DC should embrace the R rating. That's how they can differentiate themselves from Marvel. Logan was fantastic.

    • @rawleyfear5749
      @rawleyfear5749 5 лет назад +74

      Yeah, but Superman, Batman, and WW should be accessible to kids. Agree that side movies would do well with R.

    • @twodogsandacat2573
      @twodogsandacat2573 5 лет назад +83

      Logan is Marvel though and so is deadpool, I doubt they can overpower those with R rated movies and besides, those characters are meant for kids anyway

    • @lorkhan8565
      @lorkhan8565 5 лет назад +15

      @@twodogsandacat2573 the kids who liked those characters are adults now..... have you seen the state of the cartoons and movies? haha they should at very least try to replicate the justice league cartoon. the comics still have a dark and gritty feel to most their work even the original teen titens cartoon had adult themes and wasn't talking down to you like that those new ones that have silly fart jokes and feels very much like nickelodeon show than a DC show.

    • @DanielWidrew
      @DanielWidrew 5 лет назад +11

      @@twodogsandacat2573 the characters are marvel, but they're fox movies. no way marvel studio would put out movies that aren't cotton candy

    • @youknodavibes2903
      @youknodavibes2903 5 лет назад +8

      Well the comics aren’t for kids and these kids now a days don’t kno who Majority of these heroes are

  • @Anime4Life35
    @Anime4Life35 6 лет назад +811

    I'm sick of people saying dark and gritty is the reason why the films were bad. No it wasn't they were just bad films that happen to be dark and gritty

    • @Codsbestsniper
      @Codsbestsniper 6 лет назад +82

      I think what he's trying to say is that the films were bad because they tried to be gritty, when they didn't have the nuance to make it sophisticated, just campy.

    • @sidr2679
      @sidr2679 6 лет назад +28

      Nah, Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman were bad because they were dark and gritty because Zack Snyder does not now, nor has he ever understood Superman and tried to make him too much like Batman.

    • @ladydias3207
      @ladydias3207 6 лет назад +11

      Sid R Amen! I've said this to my friends, Zack neither understands nor respects Superman's character and you can't build up the Justice League when you can't even get Superman - who is a massively central character - right.

    • @madjester6088
      @madjester6088 6 лет назад +5

      Right. Many of the DC animated films, which are dark, are absolutely great!! Provided Geoff Johns isn't writing Hal Jordan...

    • @antona.1327
      @antona.1327 6 лет назад +7

      Rocco Angone, of all the legitimate criticisms DCEU have received, the dark and gritty wasn't at the top of the list. The most glaring issues were the attempts to copy MCU's overused formula, with jokes in inappropriate places, pointless worldbuilding, and pointless plot points that are meant to set up future movies.

  • @rockmanx20
    @rockmanx20 6 лет назад +1872

    You know what? Im gonna watch the nolan trilogy again

    • @Pernection
      @Pernection 6 лет назад +15

      It was only 2

    • @user-mt2dz8yj8r
      @user-mt2dz8yj8r 6 лет назад +78

      @@Pernection do we not count the dark knight rises?

    • @weasel4674
      @weasel4674 6 лет назад +104

      steve Macaulay Dark knight rises wasnt as good as begins or dark knight, but it should still be accounted for

    • @hanzohasashi844
      @hanzohasashi844 6 лет назад +60

      @@weasel4674 what was wrong with The Dark Knight rises 🤔

    • @weasel4674
      @weasel4674 6 лет назад +46

      dragon stone It was a fine movie, but with the dark knight being a predecessor it just seemed kind of a let down, I still love the movie though

  • @LavenousForever
    @LavenousForever 5 лет назад +112

    I liked Man of Steel as a stand alone movie. I like Wonder Woman as a stand alone movie. I loved Aqua man as a stand alone movie. I didn’t hate BvS but honestly i don’t remember much that happened... never saw justice league or suicide squad. Basically what I’m trying to say is DC tried to run into the universe thing too soon. Or the fact that they did it at all. Look JUST BECAUSE MARVEL HAS A SUCCESSFUL UNIVERSE DOESNT MEAN EVERYTHING HAS TO BE A UNIVERSE NOW! I realize that the DC universe IS a universe that already exists, but there is nothing wrong with stand alone movies!

    • @mikearchibald744
      @mikearchibald744 3 года назад +3

      The appeal is the same as the 'celebrity angel'. As Oliver Goldman said, celebrities don't sell movies, but they do open them. Thats the appeal of the universe thing, anything to give it a leg up. Its surprising because there are actually SO few movies that come out, yet its all tied to the first week it seems. You don't make money then and you aren't going to make money.
      Apart from the batmans I didn't really like ANY of the DC movies, too predictable. I didn't mind BVS, it was pretty good, just too many dream sequences. The problem of course is Marvel and the nature of executives. With Marvel you actually have guys who can stand up to executives, who almost always give bad advice. DC has always been run by Warner, which is executive hell. Some marvels fall into that trap, but many have strong directors who executives just like, like Taika Waikiti. They saw some rushes, laughed and liked it, left him alone. You can almost always tell an executive 'suggestion' or demand in a movie.
      Nothing wrong with a universe, but when all you can do is copy marvel you have a problem. I mean, there are decades worth of scripts, and thats the best? Crisis on Infinite Earths predates Marvels multiverse, but all DC can come up with is Teen Titans, and their animation movies are far superior to their other movies. But executives live to copy, not originate.

    • @Birthday888
      @Birthday888 2 года назад +2

      Also, Zack Snyder just doesn't get why people like Superman and Batman and why those characters work. It becomes blindingly obvious when you watch his interviews about both films.

  • @KillerUnicorn586
    @KillerUnicorn586 6 лет назад +493

    it's a shame because their animated films and TV series clearly show they know how to make good content

    • @sanguineregis5354
      @sanguineregis5354 6 лет назад +9

      EXACTLY.

    • @Maniac742
      @Maniac742 6 лет назад +4

      Live action Teen Titans would like a word.

    • @Crazybones66
      @Crazybones66 6 лет назад +27

      Well, if it ain't animated, DC can't do it Justice

    • @nlg070301
      @nlg070301 6 лет назад +28

      I find it quite funny that people hate the DCEU but watch utter shite like the Arrowverse. Probably the most camp looking thing I have ever seen. The DCEU is by no means perfect but don't attempt to say the TV shows are any better. They're embarrassing compared to shows like Daredevil.

    • @NY_7
      @NY_7 5 лет назад +4

      YES! But that's DC making those, with WB funding. The movies have WB executives up the asses of the writers or they just pick the dumbest story written. The WB needs to let DC Comics make their own decisions and make their own movies. The WB just needs to fund it and both studios would benefit in the end.

  • @athamas1294
    @athamas1294 5 лет назад +330

    The dark Knight is simply the greatest superhero movie,no question

    • @xStealthPigeon
      @xStealthPigeon 5 лет назад +72

      @laz kar Dark Knight didnt need time travel or 10 plus years of set up to be good.

    • @dsmann12
      @dsmann12 5 лет назад +56

      @laz kar In 10 years, Endgame will be considered a good movie, but TDK will still be considered one of the best movies of the century.

    • @SpaceAlley
      @SpaceAlley 5 лет назад +46

      @laz kar the dark Knight is still the greatest superhero film even after endgame has come out

    • @_V.Va_
      @_V.Va_ 5 лет назад +20

      @@xStealthPigeon Because its story was self contained. The Dark Knight didn't have so many characters to introduce and develop, but that's because it didnt NEED to. Endgame DID.

    • @Nobodyss21
      @Nobodyss21 5 лет назад +17

      laz kar Wtf?! Endgame is the mess. Time travel is the mess. Wtf with nebula killing herself?

  • @markamanic
    @markamanic 6 лет назад +574

    It feel like a lot of "DCEU defenders" think critisism of the movies equals critisism of the characters or source material. It's not, a lot of it comes from a place of love.
    I must say I'm not a big comic book guy, I read a few but only after the MCU got me hooked on superheroes and their interconnected stories.
    And as much as it may seem, it's never about which side of the coin has the best heroes, both Marvel and DC have a gigantic cast of unique and colourful heroes, people just want them represented in a way that's faithful to the characters.
    It's a shame Warner Bros doesn't see it like that.

    • @markamanic
      @markamanic 6 лет назад +44

      And by faithful I mean Batman not using firearms and Superman not letting people explode, burn or get crushed under buildings he himself knocked over.

    • @jackj9816
      @jackj9816 6 лет назад +4

      Markamanic I was the same with the dark knight and Arkham games before them I did not read comics but now I really like Batman comics and now deadpool as well

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 6 лет назад +28

      I have a nickname for such defenders: Stockholm Syndrome sufferers. At this point, it borders on masochism in how they defend this shit, settling for the mediocre because they're so afraid they'll get nothing otherwise.

    • @brycebitetti1402
      @brycebitetti1402 6 лет назад +33

      killbotone Many people would disagree with you on that because it's a pretty unpopular opinion. Not just fans, but the general audience and critics alike seem to agree that Infinity War was pretty great. The Marvel fanboys do get very defensive at times, though. Unless what you're criticizing is Iron Man 2, The Incredible Hulk, or Thor the Dark World, you WILL get bombarded by Marvel fans calling your opinions trash.

    • @brycebitetti1402
      @brycebitetti1402 6 лет назад +31

      killbotone No, it wasn't. That is a blatantly wrong statement. A majority of Marvel fans these days are adults, and why yes, some get quite defensive, I've seen many respectful ones. And no, the general consensus is not that Infinity War was bad. Look at critic reviews, RUclipsrs, video essays, and many more. I don't care if you liked it or not, but it is a provable fact that it was well received by most.

  • @thebadguychinli4011
    @thebadguychinli4011 2 года назад +10

    That’s because the directors don’t understand that Batman’s atmosphere is just not the same as Superman, yet they try to make Superman somber and gritty and it just doesn’t translate well. Also, the casting…

    • @-Scrapper-
      @-Scrapper- 2 года назад +1

      batman isn't gritty either. They are just copying nolan

  • @sandymccabe7670
    @sandymccabe7670 6 лет назад +326

    It's been said before and i will say it again but most of the dc animated movies are very good so why that kind of story boarding can't be adapted to the a live action movie screen is a mystery to me.

    • @jlogan2228
      @jlogan2228 6 лет назад +35

      Yeah I just watched death of Superman and thought holy shit why didn't they do more of this in bvs????

    • @HovektheArtist
      @HovektheArtist 6 лет назад +33

      I want a live action under the red hood thats got the feel of the animated movie

    • @MrCODEmaster999
      @MrCODEmaster999 6 лет назад +10

      Cause the cartoony elements would not translate well into live action. In any case Man of Steel was done very well so obviously WB dropped the ball with DCEU.

    • @kzarkage
      @kzarkage 6 лет назад +5

      Cause fu*k Batman

    • @jslaughter95
      @jslaughter95 6 лет назад +12

      @@MrCODEmaster999 man of steel was done horribly... I don't see how people can defend that movie. Sure it's visually appealing and has good fight scenes but the story and pacing were ass... Kal is on earth for 20, 30 years. Does some superman type things but never actually shows him self being superman until most of the way into the movie and Zod shows up demanding people hand him over. Except the only fucking people who know who he is are his mother and Lois plot device Lane. They spent way too much time on his past and not nearly enough building his character all because Snyder wanted to make it a gritty dark movie, which superman isn't at all, there's a reason he's constantly called the Boy scout

  • @phamchunghieu4560
    @phamchunghieu4560 6 лет назад +289

    Imagine being such an OP director that your movie kill a billion dollars worth franchise before its even born

    • @krynwomble3937
      @krynwomble3937 6 лет назад +16

      Phạm Chung Hiếu Literally spawn-camping/aborting the DCEU.

    • @feordedid9113
      @feordedid9113 6 лет назад +13

      "Chris nolan aborted dc"

    • @MrlspPrt
      @MrlspPrt 6 лет назад +5

      Tragic irony... even worse if we take Nolan's trilogy as a whole...

    • @Nintendoggy
      @Nintendoggy 5 лет назад

      Star Wars ep 8....

  • @Galimeer5
    @Galimeer5 6 лет назад +500

    That Titans/Teen Titans GO comparison was savage

  • @henrybones9314
    @henrybones9314 5 лет назад +60

    One thing DC got it right: let Hans Zimmer score the theme.

    • @amirhassan7887
      @amirhassan7887 4 года назад +3

      yah but he only got creative freedom on Man of Steel and Wonder Woman. Danny elfman fucks everything up with BvS's score and Hans left his Justice League project.

  • @JC-ev2ns
    @JC-ev2ns 6 лет назад +77

    Teen Titans Go makes fun of dark and gritty movies and then DC turns around and makes a live action teen titans that is dark and gritty. Is ANYONE at DC even paying attention at this point? They are laughably incompetent

    • @huntsman528
      @huntsman528 6 лет назад +2

      The Live Action Teen Titans is pretty sad.

    • @leotamer5
      @leotamer5 6 лет назад +1

      I was really excited for Titans. I then saw a picture of the cast standing together and all of that existing immediately drained out of me.

    • @etherspin
      @etherspin 6 лет назад

      that doesn't need to be the case - look at Adam West's batman co-existing with Bales depiction, a successful light hearted take doesn't diminish a future serious angle on the material

    • @mainstreetsaint36
      @mainstreetsaint36 6 лет назад

      This is where a multiverse works; you can have both dark/gritty/realistic existing next to more light-hearted fare.

    • @CoderatheGreat
      @CoderatheGreat 6 лет назад

      I believe studio execs saw that episode and just assumed we all wanted a "brutal, edgy" Teen Titans rather than the original show which was able to effectively balance both light and dark moments. They're such a joke.

  • @rhyslloyd3200
    @rhyslloyd3200 6 лет назад +430

    One had Nolan, the other had Zack Snyder. There's your difference

    • @lightningthebeast
      @lightningthebeast 6 лет назад +14

      Thou should not compare infinity with zero

    • @__________1175
      @__________1175 6 лет назад +13

      @lairdriver If only that presence was felt in the writing.

    • @roberonin7400
      @roberonin7400 6 лет назад +1

      Snyder got it right it was him leaving that killed it

    • @Shendue
      @Shendue 6 лет назад +14

      @@roberonin7400 Nah, Snyder even directed that mediocre Superman movie.
      He's a good worker when he follows the source material almost page-by-page (300, Watchmen), but when tries to put his personal twist on a movie, he fails miserably.
      Look at Man of Steel.
      Lots of good stuff when he sticks to the source material, then he decides to convey some convoluted concept about the world not being ready for the second coming or something, so he makes him stand while doing nothing watching HIS OWN FATHER dying to save a fucking dog, just to protect his secret identity. Too bad that he already showed his powers to all of his classmates with the bus incident and he does the exact same thing on the oil platform later on, which makes zero sense. The guy doesn't give a fuck to give away his identity to save complete strangers but lets his father die to save a dog. Wow. So deep.
      Snyder's a joke. They should have hired Affleck to direct BvS instead of acting in it.

    • @roberonin7400
      @roberonin7400 6 лет назад

      @@Shendue man of steal was the best orgin superman story lol

  • @TheBeardedBrosChannel
    @TheBeardedBrosChannel 5 лет назад +501

    Till this day, I think The Batman Animated Series is one of the best on-screen story telling that I’ve ever seen. DC needs to stop trying to be Chris Nolan. Also, am I the only one that actually enjoyed Man of Steel?

    • @kevincasey5996
      @kevincasey5996 5 лет назад +18

      Yep

    • @ssj4x448
      @ssj4x448 5 лет назад +12

      I loved it

    • @httohot
      @httohot 5 лет назад +4

      @@ssj4x448 I love it when I pretend that its a new superhero and not superman
      I always giggle now when I think about superman snapping necks to solve his problems "oh boy this is a tough opponent better snap his neck to save the day"

    • @ssj4x448
      @ssj4x448 5 лет назад +2

      @@httohot I was never the biggest superman fan so I didn't really know what to expect so it was easier to like

    • @sinmir501
      @sinmir501 5 лет назад +1

      Imagine a animated DC EU with better voice actors

  • @marvelousmeh2077
    @marvelousmeh2077 5 лет назад +194

    Comparing the Dark Knight Trilogy to the DC Extended Universe is very insulting and you should be ashamed of it.

    • @Hexamedro
      @Hexamedro 4 года назад +8

      Marvelous Meh It’s not a comparison, it’s a description of how the DCEU literally killed itself.

    • @TheVladMan.
      @TheVladMan. 4 года назад +4

      Hexa Medro Batman Begins and Superman Returns should’ve started the DCEU.
      Both movies were one year apart from each other. Both movies were fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. Both movies looked and felt like they could’ve been connected.
      Superman Returns referenced Gotham City. Not to mention, it grossed more money at the box office than Batman Begins.
      I Am Legend teased a crossover between them for May 2010. The billboard in Times Square had Christian Bale’s Batman logo and Brandon Routh’s Superman logo merged together.

  • @chandlerl2189
    @chandlerl2189 5 лет назад +44

    The reason is because the Dark Knight focused on moral themes while remaining an action movie. Almost all movies since are just action, and don’t really focus on the genre I like to call “Superhero Crime Fiction”. Whereas superhero tells action, Crime Fiction means, well, crime, and morality being tested. Testing the audience’s moral standards (a great example is the most recent Orient Express movie) means that they feel more of an emotion connection to the movie, making the events stand out more.

  • @nosfonader8792
    @nosfonader8792 6 лет назад +283

    DC and WB clearly got scared that Marvel was making B and C list characters as overnight rockstars. When a talking raccoon and tree become superstars, DC clearly did something wrong. I always felt DC should’ve made a Batman movie before the BvS one. Wonder Woman and the Flash after that. Justice League next, introduce Aquaman and Green Lantern in the JL movie. A Brainiac invasion would be the reason and revealing that Brainiac destroyed Kyrpton ( he wanted their technology). Green Lantern and Aquaman movies come after the League one.

    • @DragonoftheDarknessFlame
      @DragonoftheDarknessFlame 6 лет назад +6

      Guardians of the Galaxy were already popular before the movies though. People loved their comics years before the movie was even a thought

    • @Noin007
      @Noin007 6 лет назад +67

      They were beloved in their comic bubble, but your average movie goer was in the dark. Hell, I grew up on things like the X-Men cartoon and dabbled in comics but had never heard of them.

    • @nosfonader8792
      @nosfonader8792 6 лет назад +6

      I knew more about the Inhumans than the Guardians. I knew mostly surface level info. Like how they ruined Drax and the Nova corps for instance.

    • @uno9331
      @uno9331 6 лет назад +10

      @@DragonoftheDarknessFlame No they weren't people never heard of them and I'm speaking from experience I loved marvel and never heard of gaurdians of the galaxy look at the interviews and etc people made them the under dogs because nobody knew they existed the success of the movie is what made them popular it's the same situation with the Inhumans many people never heard of them but it marvel managed to make the show better than the bullshit they made people would've fell in love I feel like but sadly inhumand legacy is tarnished before it even got a chance to begin lol

    • @bishop253
      @bishop253 6 лет назад +3

      My brother and myself would play the Marvel games pretty consistently, and I never heard of Guardians until I saw a commercial for the movie.

  • @Ash-np4pd
    @Ash-np4pd 6 лет назад +788

    Batman begins - 9/10
    The Dark Knight - 11/10
    The Dark Knight Rises - 10/10
    But all 3 are masterpieces .

    • @UTU49
      @UTU49 6 лет назад +38

      10 10 7

    • @Ash-np4pd
      @Ash-np4pd 6 лет назад +55

      UTU49 there is no movie in TDK trilogy under 9

    • @UTU49
      @UTU49 6 лет назад +31

      I'm marking too hard because TDKR suffers by comparison with the others. Revised to ...
      10 10 8

    • @Ash-np4pd
      @Ash-np4pd 6 лет назад +27

      UTU49 for me Batman begins is the weakest but all three are masterpieces to me in terms of superhero films

    • @mmed23
      @mmed23 6 лет назад +11

      Is it bad I like the dark knight rises the best

  • @shaurya4242
    @shaurya4242 5 лет назад +110

    "It's success along with Iron Man ushered in a golden era of superhero films"
    Spider-Man Trilogy: Am I joke to you?

    • @IsGoNu
      @IsGoNu 5 лет назад +13

      THE PMC X-Men saga from 2000 hello?

    • @stanleyshady9465
      @stanleyshady9465 4 года назад +2

      lol Yes

    • @manniking233
      @manniking233 4 года назад

      X-Men and Spiderman, please shut up!

    • @AntarcticMagpie
      @AntarcticMagpie 4 года назад +4

      Spiderman and X-Men "woke up" mainstream media to the idea that superhero movies ~might actually be cool~. Batman Begins/ The Dark Knight and Iron Man confirmed this, thereby indeed "ushering in a golden age of superhero movies."
      My point is: both sets are equally important, merely in different ways.

    • @AntarcticMagpie
      @AntarcticMagpie 4 года назад

      @@avedeathstroke6577 true :P

  • @godspeed6947
    @godspeed6947 6 лет назад +160

    Nolan’s writing and directing was amazing. I was constantly zoned into the screen/story of the Dark Knight.

    • @Beastking800
      @Beastking800 5 лет назад +3

      Plus Christian Bale batman had an amazing cast, Morgan Freeman, Michael Caine, his batman version made me love batman, but then batman vs Superman came out and it Honestly didn't look right without Christian Bale

    • @shades1503
      @shades1503 5 лет назад +1

      Godspeed so basically the dark knight was great then dc got lazy with their movies?

    • @laurocoman
      @laurocoman 5 лет назад +2

      @@shades1503 It wasn't lazyness, it was more a timing and patience issue. These films could have all been good, maybe great, but they kept pushing half-made films to fit a timeline, had they gave them a little bit of room they would have felt more complete. Man of Steel was not bad, and that's because that's the only film that wasn't a commercial for other films.

    • @shades1503
      @shades1503 5 лет назад

      Bitchslapped they shouldn’t have announced anything about any new movies until they were sure

    • @laurocoman
      @laurocoman 5 лет назад

      @@shades1503 right, they didn't even know what worked and what didn't.

  • @whytmangatv
    @whytmangatv 6 лет назад +1689

    They should just use the Flashpoint movie to undo the garbage parts and fix their universe. Better than an overall reset button because I love the DCEU casting decisions for the most part and Wonder Woman did well.

    • @captainsave-a-ho1509
      @captainsave-a-ho1509 6 лет назад +11

      Hahahahahahaha

    • @danielsantos6437
      @danielsantos6437 6 лет назад +31

      They will screw that up too if they make it, let it just die, we have Marvel, they are making entertaining movies. (Only one I didn't like was the latest avengers: Infinity war)

    • @-Trauma.
      @-Trauma. 6 лет назад +29

      The DCEU needs Dr. Manhattan and that Doomsday Clock story in live action, and it shall start with Flashpoint Paradox, & Dr. Manhattan witnessing the creation of another Universe due to the Flash's actions...I just want to see everything I've read recently in live action, I want to see Mr. Oz revealed as Jor-El and I want to see he and Kal-El fight and then I want to see Kal-El use the Cosmic Treadmill (or whatever they want to use in the DCEU) to be given the chance to create his own Paradox Universe...yes...I want to see this all in live action. As well as The White Knight starring William Defoe as The Joker/Jack Napier...

    • @bombasticbagman
      @bombasticbagman 6 лет назад +2

      I see you like stealing comments

    • @danielsantos6437
      @danielsantos6437 6 лет назад +2

      He's not stealing he is copying...

  • @azraelbrown9889
    @azraelbrown9889 6 лет назад +287

    The cringe factor of the titan live movie segment... was over 9000!!

    • @FlaccidSunday
      @FlaccidSunday 6 лет назад

      It's a series not a movie. And it's gonna be much better than it looks. Story wise

    • @HolleWalle
      @HolleWalle 6 лет назад +7

      Man, even TT Go seems more competent than the live adaptation.

  • @jammydodger222Xxd
    @jammydodger222Xxd 5 лет назад +33

    DC should have just completely ignored what marvel were doing and focused on doing *Their* thing and taking their time to do it

  • @sertaki
    @sertaki 6 лет назад +180

    Oh god.
    Teen Titans Go describing Titans perfectly is so real, it hurts.

    • @lobstermagnetreview
      @lobstermagnetreview  6 лет назад +23

      So glad people are finally getting a kick out of that bit.

    • @Thalanox
      @Thalanox 6 лет назад +13

      One of the very, very few things Teen Titans Go did right.

    • @1r0zz
      @1r0zz 6 лет назад +3

      the irony is that Teen Titans Go uses those joke at the expense of the fans who want a series that respects Titans as a serious cast of character, instead of a bunch of jokes...

    • @Thalanox
      @Thalanox 6 лет назад

      1r0zz After learning the context of this, I retract my earlier comment.

    • @1r0zz
      @1r0zz 6 лет назад +4

      Thalanox
      yeah... I mean, it's weird... I mean I guess they can hate the "anime" like Teen Titans previous series, but the group of teen titans is an interesting group and cast of heroes that you can use for many interesting stories...I mean, Raven alone could be the main character of a full big budget movie...
      TTgo also "insulted" Young Justice series and that's where the whole "serious story" joke started...

  • @Bmystyle
    @Bmystyle 6 лет назад +311

    The Dark Knight didnt kill the DCEU, it's the incompetent studio execs behind the scenes that are too lazy to research the source materiel and find the right tone for each character and movie. They'd rather slap a "Dark Knight" filter over everything in the hopes that it performs as well. What they don't realize is that the dark gritty look & feel worked for Nolan in Dark Knight because it's the essence of Batman. End rant.

    • @juanbartolo3828
      @juanbartolo3828 6 лет назад +3

      @Antonio Valdivia Jr aaaaw dammit! You beat me to the comment! Lol

    • @Godzillaaaaa11
      @Godzillaaaaa11 6 лет назад +8

      In this guy's defense the title says Dark Knight did, which is exactly what OP refuted

    • @xsteveconwayx
      @xsteveconwayx 6 лет назад +1

      I agree. Batman Begins and Dark Knight were partly written by Goyer, who I believe confessed to being a total Batman fanboy. I could be wrong. Maybe it was Chris Nolan’s brother? I don’t remember. But it was written by people who clearly understood the essence of Batman.

    • @eagleone0one
      @eagleone0one 6 лет назад

      Indeed, one who is lazy is right next to one who is destructive. If you want something worthy, you must put in the time and effort - mansions and castles aren't built overnight, but a cheap shack sure can be.

    • @xsteveconwayx
      @xsteveconwayx 6 лет назад +2

      Noctis Caelum I disagree. I liked Ben Affleck as Batman, but I think the Dark Knight trilogy were the better films.

  • @cameron818
    @cameron818 5 лет назад +29

    Dark Knight Rises was amazing. He wasn't done lol. He put a fantastic ending on a remarkable trilogy.

    • @BryanVGK23
      @BryanVGK23 5 лет назад

      Cameron Rice thank you! He doesn’t get enough credit for putting a great ending to the trilogy which was very tough to do given the circumstances

  • @friggyk
    @friggyk 2 года назад +7

    *it’s a damn shame how the animated DC universe IS MILES BETTER than the live action dceu*

  • @elin111
    @elin111 6 лет назад +48

    Compelling characters is what keeps the MCU going, getting a director that isn't good with characters was a bad idea.

  • @jimbertido2800
    @jimbertido2800 5 лет назад +215

    Joaquin Phoenix will save DC.

    • @nhmooytis7058
      @nhmooytis7058 5 лет назад +8

      Jim Bertido he's a one dimensional boring actor who will suck as The Joker.

    • @blackstewiegriffin
      @blackstewiegriffin 5 лет назад +47

      Jim Bertido DCEU is already rebuilding themselves after Justice League. Wonder Woman and Aquaman are good. They should focus on doing solo movies from now on

    • @2mch2sy
      @2mch2sy 5 лет назад +17

      @@nhmooytis7058 how do you know if it's based on the trailers don't waste words on me

    • @nielsmichiels1939
      @nielsmichiels1939 5 лет назад

      Honestly doubt it.

    • @veritas4733
      @veritas4733 5 лет назад +2

      After seeing the teaser trailer.
      Ive lost all interest, it doesnt look like a comic book movie for me but one of those bs looking action movies.

  • @shihabhossainjoy2435
    @shihabhossainjoy2435 6 лет назад +280

    At least Michael bay admits what he is but Zack Snyder is a train wreck

    • @jonnymartinez9092
      @jonnymartinez9092 6 лет назад +3

      SHIHAB HOSSAIN JOY actually it's not Snyder's fault wb and the corporates controlled it

    • @escanorlionsinofpride6147
      @escanorlionsinofpride6147 6 лет назад +1

      BULLSHIT ! Zack Snyder is a GREAT director, dumbass, it is WB's fault if the WODC (DCEU) is crap for now.

    • @onespiker
      @onespiker 6 лет назад +6

      @@escanorlionsinofpride6147 its both. Have you looked at his reviews and shittalk.

    • @1r0zz
      @1r0zz 6 лет назад +17

      Escanor Lion Sin of Pride
      have you seen Sucker Punch? yeah... that's your director...

    • @escanorlionsinofpride6147
      @escanorlionsinofpride6147 6 лет назад +1

      @@1r0zz Have you seen 300 ? Or Watchmen ? Now shut the fuck up !

  • @ytkingoffun2129
    @ytkingoffun2129 5 лет назад +55

    The scene of Batman chasing with the his motorcycle was bad ass

  • @eddhiggins9034
    @eddhiggins9034 6 лет назад +169

    At 13:15, you hit the nail on the head. Marvel, my #2 in favorite character base, did their homework and found the nerds who could make these stories come to life.

    • @andyparker5688
      @andyparker5688 6 лет назад +1

      So, DC's your #1?

    • @eddhiggins9034
      @eddhiggins9034 6 лет назад +1

      @@andyparker5688 I love the characters of DC comics. Every time I look for a comic to read, I learn to DC. I just think the entire line of characters are more interesting and relatable to myself.

    • @eddhiggins9034
      @eddhiggins9034 6 лет назад +1

      @@andyparker5688 yes - DC is my #1.

    • @andyparker5688
      @andyparker5688 6 лет назад +2

      Relatable? I don't exactly think that DC (which is mostly about Gods) is more keen on relatability than Marvel (which is mostly about humans). Batman sure is one massive exception though, and I do find him greatly interesting/relatable.

    • @eddhiggins9034
      @eddhiggins9034 6 лет назад

      @@andyparker5688 Well, yeah... He is my favorite comic book character. No other compares to him, in my opinion.

  • @dingkong5034
    @dingkong5034 5 лет назад +684

    How the DCEU should’ve been:
    Gen 1:
    Superman: Man of Steel (2013)
    Batman: The Dark Knight (2013)
    Wonder Woman: Queen of Themyscira (2014)
    Superman 2: Man of Tomorrow (2015)
    Aquaman: King of Atlantis (2015)
    World’s Finest (2016)
    Batman 2: The Killing Joke (2016)
    Teen Titans (2016)
    Wonder Woman 84 (2017)
    Suicide Squad (2017)
    Green Arrow (2017)
    Justice League (2018)
    Gen 2:
    Aquaman 2 (2018)
    Flash (2019)
    Cyborg (2019)
    Superman 3 (2019)
    Batman 3 (2020)
    Teen Titans 2 (2020)
    Suicide Squad 2 (2020)
    World’s Finest: Returns (2021)
    Deathstroke (2021)
    Wonder Woman 3 (2021)
    Green Lantern (2022)
    Flash 2 (2022)
    Aquaman 3 (2022)
    Cyborg 2 (2022)
    Doctor Fate (2023)
    Shazam (2023)
    Justice League: The Legion of Doom (2023)
    Gen 3:
    Green Lantern 2 (2024)
    Flash 3 (2024)
    Shazam 2 (2025)
    Doctor Fate 2 (2025)
    Suicide Squad 3 (2025)
    Booster Gold (2026)
    New Gods (2026)
    Teen Titans 3 (2026)
    Justice League: Darkseid Rises (2027)
    Gen 4:
    Nightwing (2028)
    Superboy (2028)
    Kid Flash (2029)
    Aqualad (2029)
    Young Justice (2030)
    Etc.

    • @Saulgoodman67677
      @Saulgoodman67677 5 лет назад +64

      I was always thinking of the DCEU finishing off with injustice as the after math of the dark side war

    • @Saulgoodman67677
      @Saulgoodman67677 5 лет назад +3

      The Gaming Ghost I know that it isn’t that hard to implement injustice to the DCEU.

    • @3Rayfire
      @3Rayfire 5 лет назад +7

      What happened to Batman/Superman: Public Enemies?

    • @eligolfs17
      @eligolfs17 5 лет назад +18

      DC rules the show side of comic books, But Marvel dominates the movies. Marvels shows are getting canceled. DC movies are bad

    • @apexphotostories3507
      @apexphotostories3507 5 лет назад +11

      Tbh i like this idea but its too much to ask right now given that the DCEU is on shaking knees rn

  • @tmzissupergay
    @tmzissupergay 6 лет назад +250

    Dear Warner Bros,
    I need to be honest and clear. I’m going to watch Marvel movies. I love them and I want to spend the rest of my money with them. When I told you when the day would come when DC movies didn’t need to be the Dark Knight all the time we’d love your movies I meant it. But now I know the day won’t come when YOU no longer need the Dark Knight. I hope it does. And if it does I’ll be there. But as a fan, I’m sorry to let you down. If you lose your faith in me please keep your faith in DC properties.

    • @HumeanPiano
      @HumeanPiano 6 лет назад +5

      Have some faith, besides I got bored of marvel films long ago myself, I just watched the spiderman homecoming movie and civil war, and ant man and the wasp because I was going out with someone and I didn't know what to watch ( it was boring and no one was in the theatre). The DCEU should be dark, and be different from the marvel films, but also include jokes at times to lighten up the mood ( not one liners though just comedic effect at times that blends in with the dark tone), but ofcourse not make it dark for too long or else it will be stale the film. The generic tone of Marvel movie bores me now since the days they felt original to me. Wonderwoman was a breath of fresh air, and say what you want I find batman v superman, not found it the best movie, but I enjoyed it going blind on the first screening ( and I have seen 10 or so analysis videos on it and do agree it was boring at a lot of parts, but still enjoy it for what it is). If the DCEU wants to attract different superhero audiences, they need to take advantage of marvel movie fatigue and give their own spin on superheroes, go deeper into the character and what their TRUE motives are ( not reading the killing joke and the dark knight and thinking you know all about batman). If you want to stick to Marvel and have a bad vibe for things warner brothers puts out, you won't see the good in the films, you will have a biased view with the mindset you have. So please be more acceptant, the name isn't what you should be blaming, with hundreds of employees in studio houses working 24/7

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 6 лет назад +3

      Sadly, someday never comes.

    • @Pernection
      @Pernection 6 лет назад +5

      Just watch the animated stuff and you'll be fine.

    • @okgamerjack2274
      @okgamerjack2274 6 лет назад +5

      new spidey game is sick

    • @Rickeyvickey.
      @Rickeyvickey. 6 лет назад +1

      No one knows you, dont act important.

  • @1138shirerat
    @1138shirerat Год назад +5

    Couldn’t agree more dude, no matter how good the first two Nolan movies were, it set WB and the DCEU on a path of self-destruction.

  • @TheMrBmurray
    @TheMrBmurray 6 лет назад +320

    I disagree, I don't think the Nolan-verse destroyed the DCEU. Warner Bros.' incompetence is what killed the DCEU. I honestly think the dark and gritty tone could have worked for the DCEU, it worked for Wonder Woman. The difference is Wonder Woman was done by a legitimate competent director and not an overconfident ass kisser. One thing that exemplifies Snyder's incompetence is the fact he let the producers dictate what the next movie was going to be after Man of Steel. They wanted him to cram all those introductions to ALL those characters to set up Justice League to play catch up with Marvel. It could have worked. But not under the guidance of Zack Snyder. BvS hadn't even hit theaters and they hired him to do Justice League and had him start shooting. When BvS had it's ugly backlash they scrambled desperately. They hired some random music video company to re-cut Suicide Squad without the director's knowledge, and they CUT one of the biggest highlights of the movie (Leto's Joker, even if he clearly was trying too hard). Then they remove Snyder, and put Whedon in with not nearly enough time to truly fix the movie. WB had given up on their DC properties years ago, after they butchered it with Batman & Robin. They became interested again when Nolan made it profitable again. But when he was done they thought they had cracked the code on what makes these properties successful and they were mistaken.

    •  6 лет назад +5

      How are you this incompetent?.. He literally just states why the Nolan movies killed the other DC movies..

    • @gearaldbecker6015
      @gearaldbecker6015 6 лет назад +22

      Jared' Leto's Joker wasn't the highlight of ANYTHING. It was the WORST "Joker" portrayal of all time. Hell, he wasn't even TRYING to play The Joker; he was doing a Pacino impression or something. He was the only part of that film that I DIDN'T like. Let's just call him "The Joke" and be done with it.

    • @rogerwilco2
      @rogerwilco2 6 лет назад +13

      The problem is that they first and foremost are trying to make a profitable movie.
      If that's your main goal, then you're not going to get it.
      You need to make a good story and then see how to make a profit from it.

    • @TheMrBmurray
      @TheMrBmurray 6 лет назад +10

      Charles Bolanos...and I'm telling you WB could have kept the DCEU going after Nolan, if they just brought in the right people to do it. But their care of the material is so close to apathy that it brought us what we know as the DCEU. Becker I agree Jared's Joker was not great, but WB sold the movie with Harley Quinn, Will Smith and Leto's Joker. But in their post-BvS scramble they cut most of Leto out after promoting him for the movie. RogerWilco you bring up a great point. WB casts their movies based on the draw of the actor/actress and not how well they will do the role. It's how Affleck was casted as Batman. But it boils down to the collaboration between writers, directors and producers. The producers at WB have exuded too much power over the collaboration and we get BvS, SS, and JL.

    • @joynerkt
      @joynerkt 6 лет назад +1

      TheMrBmurray right...!

  • @bobthet-rex2718
    @bobthet-rex2718 6 лет назад +148

    Titans vs teen titans go was hilarious but it also filled me with pain because it is true

    • @Anon-lu6ct
      @Anon-lu6ct 6 лет назад +5

      Same but with cringe instead of rage

    • @zero-wolf5519
      @zero-wolf5519 6 лет назад

      Aqua man is going to flop

    • @bobthet-rex2718
      @bobthet-rex2718 6 лет назад

      Selassie West and the Shazam trailer was embarrassing

  • @viditmanjrekar2940
    @viditmanjrekar2940 6 лет назад +122

    DCEU should have just been patient like Marvel. Instead of trying to catch up with Marvel they should have learned from Marvel. Also the DCEU movies were tonally too inconsistent. This is the main reason why Justice League failed. Batmans character went from a dark killing vigilante to a joke cracking idiot. And now Henry Cavill apparently isn't Superman anymore? Gg DCEU.

    • @yeongvinsheng7639
      @yeongvinsheng7639 6 лет назад +13

      Not good game, it's game over.

    • @jacobaarum
      @jacobaarum 6 лет назад +6

      The problem is inconsistencies in the vision. Snyder already had 5 movies planned out. He had his conclusion for the universe written and he was gonna let WB go from there. WB said fuck that, greenlit Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman and the universe just simply became the case of too many hands in the cookie jar.

    • @timothygalvin3021
      @timothygalvin3021 6 лет назад

      I don't think that justice league was technically a box office failure

    • @LongjoyNl
      @LongjoyNl 6 лет назад +1

      I hate when people say DC tried to play catch up...So...introducing your big team up movie instead of solo movies is trying to play catching up..?? Wrong..it's their way of introducing characters... It also adds a mystery to why they are contributing to the team..
      Also..the thing about Batman is that it's his way of dealing with the after effects after Supermans death... Batman is still the serious type..however Bruce can sometimes crack a little joke...

    • @yeongvinsheng7639
      @yeongvinsheng7639 6 лет назад +2

      @@timothygalvin3021 I can't believe justice League 2017 flopped considering that it was screenwrote by Joss Whedon who did 6 MCU films.

  • @imanshafiq5835
    @imanshafiq5835 5 лет назад +53

    The Dark Knight trilogy >>>>>> All DCEU Movies
    Director: Christopher Nolan >>>>>>> Zack Synder

    • @Denis-qv5yj
      @Denis-qv5yj 4 года назад +5

      This is a stupid comment because is obvious

    • @person-du8dj
      @person-du8dj 4 года назад +2

      Exactly

  • @13ishup
    @13ishup 6 лет назад +489

    God that Titans trailer is so goddman cringy

  • @WickedKnightAlbel
    @WickedKnightAlbel 6 лет назад +186

    The writing on the Justice League/Unlimited cartoon is godlike

    • @jacobaarum
      @jacobaarum 6 лет назад +15

      The writer passed away though. People pay more credit to Dini or Timm but I credit Dwayne McDuffie more since he had his own spin on all the characters and was the main writer throughout the show. Dini is fine. Timm just has weird fetishes where he just has to have a character fuck someone they wouldn't and shouldn't fuck.

    • @Comkill117
      @Comkill117 6 лет назад +15

      It’s the best, that whole era of DC cartoons starting with Batman and Superman all the way to JL:U was perfect.
      Hell it started Batman Beyond and that’s my probably favorite Batman series.

    • @minatodroger7890
      @minatodroger7890 6 лет назад +4

      So damn true it Batman beyond, BAtman the animates series, young justice Teen Titans just god like

    • @UnchainedEruption
      @UnchainedEruption 6 лет назад +4

      Terry R. I don’t think the others would ever be as good as Batman the Animated Series was, but they were still all very well done. Honestly superhero movies should just end. We’ve already seen a good Justice League adaptation in those cartoons. The live action movies and CW soap operas suck. The movies are boring, overdone, and predictable.

    • @javier.alvarez764
      @javier.alvarez764 6 лет назад +2

      Mr. JustAGuyWithALightsaber I agree. Although we now have a lot of superhero movies, most of it are just average. Most of these movies lack depth. They are the new replacement for the Transformers franchise.

  • @danthreepwood2760
    @danthreepwood2760 6 лет назад +352

    I'd rather have ONE decent Chris Nolan Batman film (doesn't matter which one) than ALL the other crappy DCEU films combined.

    • @jocelyncooper1738
      @jocelyncooper1738 6 лет назад +4

      I second that

    • @ghosturiel
      @ghosturiel 6 лет назад +9

      motion has been recognized and seconded, all in favor say I, those who oppose?

    • @gearaldbecker6015
      @gearaldbecker6015 6 лет назад +2

      I don't get it - why does everyone keep talking about "Chris Nolan Batman films"? Nolan has NEVER made a SINGLE Batman movie.
      Seriously. Big Daddy from Kick-Ass is a better Batman film portrayal than that character that Nolan invented. Whoever it is, it ain't Batman.

    • @freewill3356
      @freewill3356 6 лет назад +21

      @@gearaldbecker6015 are you on drugs?

    • @JasonWilliams89
      @JasonWilliams89 6 лет назад +10

      Marvel haven't made a shit movie since 2008. Think you're confused.

  • @chidimoseri7563
    @chidimoseri7563 5 лет назад +118

    I dont understand why DC has better animated movies than live action, but Marvel has better live action than animation. Im confused

    • @hydrolito
      @hydrolito 5 лет назад +1

      Isn't Teen Titan go animated how is that better?

    • @C1pher187
      @C1pher187 5 лет назад +5

      @@hydrolito we take mostly

    • @keloid123
      @keloid123 5 лет назад +3

      @@hydrolito have you watch Spiderman reboot. No not spiderverse. The Spiderman reboot

    • @jamarij5814
      @jamarij5814 5 лет назад +1

      hydrolito we don’t like to talk about that show......

    • @jamespaguip5913
      @jamespaguip5913 5 лет назад +2

      Young justice was good

  • @chriss1757
    @chriss1757 6 лет назад +395

    DC has a simple problem. Their heroes are based around their powers. Marvels heroes are based around their personalities. Iron Man is Tony Stark with a super suit, Spider-man is Peter Parker with super powers. The reason Batman works is because he has no powers. They've had to develop Bruce Wayne because he is integral to the character. Batman stories are detective stories with a Zorro-like character as the lead detective. Zorro stories are essentially Robin Hood retold with the titular character changed to a Spanish swordsman. Superman has no real connection to past works. He was created out of whole cloth by two Jewish boys who wanted a character who could solve any problem. His character arc is he's a super powerful alien who does good. That's it, you're done. And this permeates most DC works. Who is the least interesting character in Watchmen? Dr. Manhatan. Literally the only guy with real powers. If DC wants an EU, they are going to have to go back and develop the characters. And that doesn't mean waste time on their childhoods or make them all edgy. Clark Kent is not edgy. He is simply a good guy. And that doesn't mean he has to be a 1950's caricature either. You can develop him as a modern man who always does the right thing. Do that, and we will root for him as Superman.

    • @bluesorcerer83
      @bluesorcerer83 6 лет назад +52

      Of all the comments in this or any other video about why Warner is so incompetent trying to adapt the DC characters in movies or tv series, I tell you: you nailed it perfectly.

    • @wienzard93
      @wienzard93 6 лет назад +25

      I tried to tell this to my DC fans friends they just blocked me out. basically saying I'm Marvel nuts (even though I love batman :/ and want DCEU to work) and Warner Bros is at fault. but really, the core problem is how DCEU wasn't invested in character building. movie-goers loves character development.

    • @Tasorius
      @Tasorius 6 лет назад +4

      Instead he became an idiot who will obey the government and ignore what is truly right and wrong.
      At least in that one movie.

    • @GiacomoSorbi
      @GiacomoSorbi 6 лет назад +30

      Not sure why you felt compelled to remark about the ethnicity of the two "jewish" creators, as it seems rather irrelevant to me, but I disagree on Dr. Manhattan. He has drama and he is conflicted, having a multi-dimensional insight on what happens (or is going to happen) around him.
      Nite Owl was imho much more flat, kinda of a hard discount version of batman.

    • @iikkuowo6735
      @iikkuowo6735 6 лет назад +5

      i dont think dr manhattan was boring, before he became that he was a normal scientist guy and even as dr manhattan he wasnt boring because in the whole movie he was like you said the only one with real powers, it made him unique in the setting, unlike other dc heroes where literally everyone has super powers, and its not like dr manhattan didnt have a character developed, it was literally the lack of character, the complete apathy that made him good, the other heroes just dont work like that

  • @DrFroyd123
    @DrFroyd123 6 лет назад +240

    The weird thing is that WB has far superior DC toon movies that marvel has

    • @mainstreetsaint36
      @mainstreetsaint36 6 лет назад +12

      Doctor strange animated movie was damned good.

    • @TheCell111
      @TheCell111 6 лет назад +4

      I don't think dc has far superior cartoon then marvel cartoon but on average dc cartoons are better then marve cartoons but both are really good.

    • @redwolf19k45
      @redwolf19k45 6 лет назад +28

      @@TheCell111 No marvel is trash in the animated department.

    • @DrFroyd123
      @DrFroyd123 6 лет назад +26

      There are over 40 DC animated movies. All of them good, some of them great. Its sad that DC can't produce a decent live action movie. Just sad

    • @cfruge444
      @cfruge444 6 лет назад +1

      The Batman Vs. Dracula; Joker's line "Got any ketchup?" still cracks me up just thinking about it - and I only ever saw that movie once.

  • @daniellye6820
    @daniellye6820 6 лет назад +295

    We need a remake of all DC films
    EDIT: Except Nolan's ones

  • @davidwiley4953
    @davidwiley4953 4 года назад +25

    What ruined the DCEU? "MARTHA!!!!"

  • @BlueGoblin1
    @BlueGoblin1 6 лет назад +169

    It is not Nolan's fault. It is WB fault.

    • @Maniac742
      @Maniac742 6 лет назад +10

      It was Nolan's godliness that gave WB a chance. They squandered that chance.

    • @RukudoSage69
      @RukudoSage69 5 лет назад

      @@Maniac742 Nolan is overrated, just saying. ;)

    • @Maniac742
      @Maniac742 5 лет назад +4

      RukudoSage69 And Snyder can't be rated low enough.

    • @RukudoSage69
      @RukudoSage69 5 лет назад +2

      @@Maniac742 He did alright with his earlier films, but yeah, after three bombs, it's clear he and DC dont mix. Maybe hes just doing what the producers want or something, or maybe it's true and hes out of creative juice like you said. On the bright side, DC has James gunn now, but whether he mixes with DC as well as he did with marvel is another question. Looks like they're going to test him out with the suicide squad sequel. Hopefully he can bring it to ragnarok proportions, but we'll see. One things for certain though, snyder needs to leave..right behind Leto, Caville and Affleck...And the new titans..lols

    • @DavidCardonaESM
      @DavidCardonaESM 5 лет назад +1

      You didnt understand the video. He is agreeing with you

  • @jayinquisitive6055
    @jayinquisitive6055 5 лет назад +406

    DC is better at animation flims period

    • @xebys6096
      @xebys6096 5 лет назад +5

      So were just going to watch superhero cartoons on TV?!? How about other demographics that don't read comics and don't watch cartoons? How can you make them pay $$ to appreciate these characters?!?

    • @aliazzam626
      @aliazzam626 5 лет назад +61

      Until Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse happened

    • @ricardopalomino8329
      @ricardopalomino8329 5 лет назад +6

      Stick to those please, leave the theatrical movies to marvel

    • @ricardopalomino8329
      @ricardopalomino8329 5 лет назад +12

      Forgot about that Ali, damn. Marvel is leaving no room for dc anywhere

    • @mathiyanz
      @mathiyanz 5 лет назад +1

      Literally no one gives a fuck

  • @Mareritt
    @Mareritt 6 лет назад +230

    1) Isn't this the same mentality as blaming the kid who studied for a test and aced it because he made the rest of the class look bad?
    2) DCEU failed because WB. Specifically, they hired directors who didn't know nor wanted to know the source material (the characters & world they exist in), they were poorly written, and they wanted to jump on the bandwagon of the MCU without ever doing any character or world building to earn the rapport of the audience.

    • @MrPtrlix
      @MrPtrlix 6 лет назад +27

      I don't think the uploader actually thinks the Dark Knight is responsible for the failure of DCEU. The title is just short for "How the Dark Knight Gave Birth to the Killer of the DCEU." Basically the same deal with the Jason Bourne trilogy and the action genre of the following decade.

    • @Mareritt
      @Mareritt 6 лет назад +1

      Actually, I was going off what he said in the first few minutes. The title is more of a TL;DW. He keeps basically saying that the Dark Knight was so good, it caused the DCEU to fail.

    • @angiee1603
      @angiee1603 6 лет назад +31

      It's more like some other kid copied the test of the kid who studied and tried to use the same answers on a completely different test.

    • @blarghts
      @blarghts 5 лет назад +9

      You can't put the blame for the failure of the DCEU anywhere but on senior management. They looked at marvel said they are our competitor we need to catch up with them in Expanded universe creation. They then rushed into making team up movies of characters that we hadn't been introduced to yet and built up an understanding of within the context of said universe. We didn't love bat fleck or aquaman or the flash or cyborg we didn't hate or have affection for the members of the suicide squad. So the film makers where tasked with building fan investment in an entire set of characters and having an interesting conflict at the same time and this is a setup for failure in my opinion. They should have looked to compete with marvel on a tit for tat basis following the roadmap for building a cinematic universe by starting with the individual characters then moving up to multi character movies. Hell they even had an opportunity to one up marvel by building a better rogues gallery cause the mcu's roster of antagonists isn't that great across the board.

    • @BrianWilliams-rl9hw
      @BrianWilliams-rl9hw 5 лет назад +1

      So I keep hearing this over and over. Do you really think Batman needed a movie before facing off with Superman? Hell I thought the 2-3 scenes where they showed his parents dying in BVS was too much. Everyone on earth knows why Batman became Batman. Everyone on earth knows Superman's tale. You couldn't say the same for Ironman when it came out in 2008, or Black Widow. The Hulk had a long running TV series and a movie before the MCU, Spider-Man had multiple movies, thus why neither (I don't count Nortons Movie) needed an origin movie before coming into the MCU. People already knew there story. Who on the SS was important enough to have an origin? Aquaman is B level JL. I loved Batfleck, and those that hate Snyders movies still enjoyed Batfleck. I do agree the problem was with upper management. But it wasn't the layout, it was the interference they ran against Snyders vision. Cut this, change that, shorten this. It caused confusion, and incoherence. And that's what people mainly don't like about the DCEU. Which Ironically is what people love about the MCU.

  • @samuelmullins758
    @samuelmullins758 3 года назад +5

    the dark knight did not kill the DCEU, DC just could not get as good a director as chris nolan. simple as that

  • @VTown1989
    @VTown1989 6 лет назад +340

    *Teen Titans Go* is more respectable and self-aware than the edgelord Teen Titans series coming out.... let that sink in.

    • @grandoblivion5268
      @grandoblivion5268 6 лет назад +5

      Frisky *OH SHIT!*

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 6 лет назад +10

      Fuck you. Teen Titans Go is a childish crap.

    • @DuelJ007
      @DuelJ007 6 лет назад +5

      i dont think you know what the word respectable means.

    • @mechengr1731
      @mechengr1731 6 лет назад +12

      Fuck all of them...they already ruined my childhood by releasing go...now they're making a live action show where they all act super depressed and angry

    • @tricko8000
      @tricko8000 6 лет назад +13

      Shelton Matthews Yeah just fuck everything. It's like WB is purposedly trying to murder DC, I don't know wtf is going on.

  • @Laikenwilliams
    @Laikenwilliams 6 лет назад +243

    that Teen Titans comparison! had me dead. But seriously. Everytime I see a DC movie-- even if the trailers look good .. its like "ohhhh just wait."

    • @pittland44
      @pittland44 6 лет назад +4

      That's where I'm at, I might see something later, but I do not get hyped up for anything DC does anymore.

    • @1r0zz
      @1r0zz 6 лет назад +4

      I mean the best DC movie was Wonder Woman and it was visually dull, repetitive, made Wonder Woman a joke, confused WWI with WWII...

    • @pittland44
      @pittland44 6 лет назад +3

      @@1r0zz They didn't confuse WW1 with WW2, they had to change Wonder Woman's backstory so that it would be different from Captain America's.

    • @Interfector0
      @Interfector0 6 лет назад +3

      Gotta disagree - Wonder Woman was the only good movie in the whole goddamn DCEU. I'd say it was because Snyder wasn't involved, but, well, Suicide Squad sucked.

    • @1r0zz
      @1r0zz 6 лет назад

      pittland44
      no they actually confused WW1 with WW2...the big difference between WW1 and WW2 is that EVERY COUNTRY in WW1 was "bad"...the war exploded pretty much because everyone thought they had better weapons that could resolve in blood all the various gripes between countries...sure Germany could be said more "evil" for the use of chemical weapons, that said British, French and Austrian forces started to adopt them (and british use was kinda a failiure...). also the gas mask in WWI wasn't that great (so the whole gas-melting-mask in the story is kinda silly, also because it should also attack skin and clothes...I mean many WWI gas kinda attacked the skin anyway...)

  • @MrAte-uo7yo
    @MrAte-uo7yo 6 лет назад +279

    Oh.....that Teen Titans live action thing is real....... oh......oh no.

    • @garver5833
      @garver5833 6 лет назад +29

      kill it before it gets started, hurry

    • @SephConUno
      @SephConUno 6 лет назад +3

      *Oh No!*

    • @hairypancake
      @hairypancake 6 лет назад +24

      I want to hear "Crawling in my skin!" on a loop throughout every episode, just crank that edginess up to 11. Also, lol at 80's prostitute Starfire.

    • @W0lverineable
      @W0lverineable 6 лет назад +4

      i thought i forgot about that thing , but oh that reminded me again

    • @oakeye980
      @oakeye980 6 лет назад +8

      I thought it was a cosplay fan film. "Fuck Batman" bet he wouldn't say this to his face... 😂

  • @TheVladMan.
    @TheVladMan. 4 года назад +10

    Batman Begins and Superman Returns should’ve started the DC Cinematic Universe. Warner Brothers made a mistake not combining the two worlds together.
    Both movies were one year apart from each other. Both movies were fresh on Rotten Tomatoes with fans and critics. Both movies looked and felt like they could’ve been in the same universe. Both movies brought the two most popular superheroes back on the big screen after a long hiatus.
    Superman Returns referenced Gotham City. Not to mention, it grossed more money at the box office than Batman Begins whose sequels went on to hit the one billion dollar mark.
    I Am Legend teased a crossover between them for May 2010. The billboard in Times Square had Bale’s Batman logo and Routh’s Superman logo merged together.

    • @manniking233
      @manniking233 4 года назад +3

      Underrated comment.

    • @parabellum2o999
      @parabellum2o999 4 года назад +2

      The problem was, that Nolan specifically said, not to join his movies with a universe, also Christain Bale has stated that he will opt make another batman movie unless nolan is the director

    • @TheVladMan.
      @TheVladMan. 4 года назад +5

      Mexican Boi - Yeah. If I recall, Bale’s Bruce Wayne was supposed to make a cameo in Superman Returns, hence the Gotham reference, but Nolan turned it down.

  • @xarporte
    @xarporte 6 лет назад +194

    You want to know how I got these scars I was in a better movie than Suicide Squad.

    • @androlibre9661
      @androlibre9661 6 лет назад +3

      I think there's a cut to Suicide Squad that is A LOT better than what was re-edited for the screen

    • @youpeoplearecrazy374
      @youpeoplearecrazy374 6 лет назад +4

      Yeah, but even that wouldn't be as good as it could have been.

    • @mar10ssj1
      @mar10ssj1 6 лет назад +7

      The Joker was hyped to be this BIG FUCKING DEAL. Barely had 10 minutes of screen time.

    • @perfectcell5613
      @perfectcell5613 6 лет назад

      Lmfao l2 Batman

    • @speakthefunkup3998
      @speakthefunkup3998 6 лет назад +5

      +Mar10 the 10 minutes he did have was a corny fucking overracting that drug my fave DC character to the ground.

  • @UGNPFU
    @UGNPFU 6 лет назад +107

    Damn that Teen Titans Go v Titans was hilarious!

  • @MrRockstar402
    @MrRockstar402 5 лет назад +99

    The answer is simple: the Dark Knight trilogy as a whole was just superior to the current DCEU. Better cast, way better villains (although the Riddler would've been awesome to see in Nolan's trilogy. Bale's Batsuits were way better (the Batman logo on Affleck's suits alone sucks) and is all around a better Batman than Ben (I would've picked Jim Caviezel). Heath Ledger's Joker is the greatest movie villain ever period, that alone buried the DCEU, considering how terrible Leto's Joker was (he looked more like a junkie pimp than a super villain).

    • @dstreamerII
      @dstreamerII 5 лет назад

      You Said It! ha

    • @nielsmichiels1939
      @nielsmichiels1939 5 лет назад +10

      hell a lot of batman villains could have worked in a nolan style movie.
      Poison ivy:
      Get rid of the mutations, keep the femme fatale act, make her into an eco terrorist that blows up powerplants or could release a genetically modified version of the Ophiocordyceps unilateralis spore troughout the city.
      (a type of nightmare mushroom that can take over the body of ants, just imagine if it would be able to take over a human being).
      The riddler
      Just make him into a zodiac style serial killer, done.
      The pinguin
      Can largely stay the same, he doesn't have superpowers, without his special umbrella he's just a regular crime boss.
      Mister freeze:
      Suffers from hyperthermia (no, not hypothermia, *hyper* -themia) and for some reason is able to survive this for a limited amount of time by putting himself in a suit that keeps him cold by using a liquid nitrogen tank using an old style NASA enviromental enclosed space suit or something.
      And arm him with a nozzle that fires said liquid nitrogen.
      Trying to get enough money together to save his dying wife before he dies.
      Did i mention this should take place while a (naturally formed) massive blizzard is going on?

    • @thedude9941
      @thedude9941 5 лет назад +1

      Bales bat suits where better than Affleck's lol! I hope you where kidding.

    • @suvajitchoudhury1707
      @suvajitchoudhury1707 5 лет назад +5

      @@thedude9941 yes because bale's suit was armored unlike stupid rubber suit of affleck lol

    • @thedude9941
      @thedude9941 5 лет назад +2

      @@suvajitchoudhury1707 but Affleck suit was comic book accurate and it was Kevlar not rubber.

  • @ishmaelgeoffrey
    @ishmaelgeoffrey 5 лет назад +53

    You know what makes a good movie? When you watched it 10000 times and never gets bored.
    But with BvS, Man of Steel, WW, I dont feel the need to rewatch it again...

    • @playboy6548
      @playboy6548 4 года назад +6

      That's called a entertaining movie....
      You know what makes a good movie?
      A movie that will impact your mind so much that you won't be able to get over it for at least 10 days......

    • @kurthamilton7744
      @kurthamilton7744 4 года назад +3

      Man of Steel is kinda entertaining but WW and BvS were both boring.

  • @aricente
    @aricente 6 лет назад +183

    Did you just...make me appreciate teen titans go?

    • @niceprofile-k6i
      @niceprofile-k6i 6 лет назад +11

      TTG is actually pretty good, if you give it a chance (and selectively skip food-based episodes)

    • @lobstermagnetreview
      @lobstermagnetreview  6 лет назад +39

      TTG gets a bit too much hate. I think there's some really smart comedy in it with the Dark DC episode being one of the best. Still can't believe they were able to get away with it.

    • @wat2999
      @wat2999 6 лет назад +10

      Get away with it? Nobody over the age of 10 likes that garbage. I enjoy comedy shows too. So I am not hating. If something is MEANT to be comedy(Regular Show, Chowder, Spongebob etc) then it works, but forcing good characters to be comedic jokes and farting noises and poop jokes is not funny.

    • @thatotherguy8138
      @thatotherguy8138 6 лет назад +4

      Waffles.

    • @MrAte-uo7yo
      @MrAte-uo7yo 6 лет назад +4

      I can't recall the episode but I remember there was an episode that kinda poked fun at older Teen Titan fans and their inability to move on. I thought that was pretty funny.

  • @ducoboeschoten
    @ducoboeschoten 5 лет назад +353

    Why is Watchmen not mentioned.
    Snyder isnt trying to copy Dark Knight..
    The reason the DCU failed is that it was rushed.

    • @bifftannen66
      @bifftannen66 5 лет назад +12

      You can make the opposite argument with some of his other movies, but it's easy to blame it all on Snyder.

    • @UTU49
      @UTU49 5 лет назад +17

      "The reason the DCU failed is that it was rushed."
      Yeah, that might be 80% of the problem.

    • @RafitoOoO
      @RafitoOoO 5 лет назад +41

      He said he's technical but horrible to tell a story. It pretty much sums up Watchmen. It was good because he was not in charge of the story.

    • @silentnoah
      @silentnoah 5 лет назад

      what do you know thats the reason the new star wars movie suck too.

    • @Trazynn
      @Trazynn 5 лет назад +12

      If the DCEU films were only a tenth as good as Watchmen then it'd be an amazing franchise.

  • @trylobyte07
    @trylobyte07 6 лет назад +57

    No one asked Warner to copy the Dark Knight for their DC shared universe to compete with Marvel. So the Dark Knight did not kill the DCEU, Warner Bros did with their botched execution. As usual studios take the wrong lessons..."oh, people love dark, let's try to make everything dark!" "Oh, people love humour, let's try to make everything funny!" "Oh, people love the female superhero, let's force more female superheroes!" "Oh, people love the R rating, maybe let's make everything R rated!" No, it all comes down to whether we care/invest in the characters and we have a nice good story.

    • @FBI-dr4bk
      @FBI-dr4bk 6 лет назад +3

      trylobyte07 Isn’t that exactly what the guy said in the video?

    • @gunchar06
      @gunchar06 6 лет назад +2

      @ trylobyte07
      "Let's force more female heroes""Oh, people love the R rating, maybe let's make everything R rated!"
      Did i miss something, WW is still the only truly relevant female hero in the DCEU and MCU and there are still barely R rated Superhero movies? They should absolutely have more female and R rated heroes, but that's sadly not the case at all.

    • @kzarkage
      @kzarkage 6 лет назад +1

      You know how fans always debate how Batman can defeat anyone given enough prep time
      Well ........................ he kinda did here

    • @gunchar06
      @gunchar06 6 лет назад +1

      @ Martin Combes
      So their plan was to wait for 19 movies and let WB/DC gain all the buzz of having the first truly relevant female superhero movie ever(the only very succesfull thing the DCEU actually accomplished so far), until they make a movie about an in the general public completely unknown characters like Carol?
      Sounds like an amazing plan...

    • @alucard347
      @alucard347 6 лет назад

      @surfitlive
      Honestly, with how DC flops so much, I really don't think they care.
      DC can try as much as it wants, but at this point, the MCU is an invincible juggernaut.
      As long as marvel keeps on its way, they don't need to care for anything DC pulls out.

  • @subliteral
    @subliteral 5 лет назад +44

    That comparison between the Teen Titans Go episode & the crappy TV series at 14:35 is so accurate it's freaking spooky.

  • @agungandy836
    @agungandy836 6 лет назад +252

    The Dark Knight trilogy even better than marvel movies, im a marvel fan's.

    • @ImAviex
      @ImAviex 6 лет назад +12

      I mean its definitely a matter of taste. I don't have an affinity for either DC or Marvel but Dark Knight's edgy broody nature gets played out after one rewatch imo, while I could understand that people may have a similar experience to the over abundance of quips and jokes in Marvel movies, for me its not the case.

    • @edjaedavid6362
      @edjaedavid6362 6 лет назад +15

      Nah.. it depends on the taste of a person.. the dark Knight was really good.. but the other two were not really special.. and besides, the wonder woman was really good (except that it was like watching a woman captain America).. dc just suck at making movies..

    • @kubashiii
      @kubashiii 6 лет назад +3

      as much as i love Captain's movies i gotta agree on this !

    • @thamir21
      @thamir21 6 лет назад +10

      the dark knight had the best story of any superhero movie. One of the best plots in a movie ever.

    • @antiochus87
      @antiochus87 6 лет назад +9

      Nah, it wasn't all that. Batman Begins was good, The Dark Knight was amazing, but The Dark Knight Rises was hilariously bad. Most Marvel movies are a lot better than two of the three.

  • @er1115
    @er1115 5 лет назад +92

    Christopher Nolan, Christian Bale, Morgan Freeman, Gary Oldman, Heath Ledger.

  • @benespinoza4384
    @benespinoza4384 6 лет назад +186

    Comparing synder to michael bay really hits the nail on the head. The funniest part is that not only does snyder think hes smarter than he really is but so does his "woke" fan base. If you give any sort of reasonable criticism about BvS they all act like your just too "dumb" to understand his very basic story telling. Well done.

    • @joesycamore2899
      @joesycamore2899 6 лет назад +9

      A bit like Star Wars

    • @benespinoza4384
      @benespinoza4384 6 лет назад +7

      @@joesycamore2899 haha so true. Which is why i didnt get my panties over TLJ. I walk into every star wars film with the mind set that its a childrens movie.

    • @blizzyyt2281
      @blizzyyt2281 6 лет назад +1

      Ben Espinoza THANK YOU someone has sense

    • @jocelyncooper1738
      @jocelyncooper1738 6 лет назад +7

      Ben Espinoza Disney has pretty much killed Star Wars at this point, and they are now busy beating a dead horse. Batman v Superman was just plain garbage, and Snyder needs to humble himself.

    • @ReubenModeXXX
      @ReubenModeXXX 6 лет назад +15

      Michael Bay is way more self aware then people give him credit for one of my favorite quotes is him saying "I make movies for teenage boys. What a crime"

  • @clownprincess1999
    @clownprincess1999 5 лет назад +50

    So in one end we could have the best batman trilogy ever and an awful starting dceu, or no batman trilogy and posibbly a better dceu.
    I choose the first

  • @hanzohattori9576
    @hanzohattori9576 6 лет назад +19

    The DCEU killed itself by making terrible movies and no planning and not taking full advantage of what Dark Knight did. The tone of DCEU was fine. Dark and gritty movies sell even today. Even marvel had movies like that. The rush, no character development and the convulated plots were the problem.
    In fact, DC's serious tone meant more serious stakes that made audience more invested and every loss would have a genuine impact. That's why infinity war was amazing. Ant man 2 after it was not so much
    But dark tone is not the bread and butter of every hero. Shazam for exampls. Superman too. He lives in a dark world but himself is the ray of hope and sunshine and not an emo edgelord.

    • @lanaz375
      @lanaz375 6 лет назад

      Ant-man 2 was pretty alright imo :) but regarding dceu the lack of planning I agree

    • @Kal-El207
      @Kal-El207 6 лет назад +1

      Honestly bro you're so right. I agree 100% DC is supposed to be dark. But you see. Way too many people bitched and complained about how the movies were dark and how marvel was more lighthearted and funny so Warner listened which was wrong to do to those retarded idiotic dumb fucks and we got DCEU which was horrible. Except for Man of Steel and Wonder Woman.

  • @ketienne1021
    @ketienne1021 6 лет назад +154

    That teen titans bit was hilarious.

    • @gulorful8488
      @gulorful8488 6 лет назад +3

      @deenman23 Teen Titans Go!: Season 2, Episode 32 - Let's Get Serious

    • @ArcaneAzmadi
      @ArcaneAzmadi 6 лет назад +6

      Some people say Teen Titans Go! is absolutely awful with no redeeming features. And yes, it's not the same as the original 2003 animated Teen Titans series that it's based on. But by _god_ it can be bitingly satirical when it wants to be.

    • @lugaruclone
      @lugaruclone 6 лет назад +8

      It is somehow the dumbest and smartest superhero cartoon at the same time.

    • @Fargoth_Ur
      @Fargoth_Ur 6 лет назад

      "...is absolutely awful with _no redeeming features_ "
      "But by god it can be bitingly satirical when it wants to be."
      Not to point out the obvious, but wouldn't the latter statement be a redeeming feature?

    • @lugaruclone
      @lugaruclone 6 лет назад +4

      I think ArcaneAzmadi is not lumping himself in with the 'some people' who consider it awful and without redeeming features. Like it is hard to talk about the new show without a shout out to the fans of the old show who hate this incarnation, but legit this incarnation has so much to offer.

  • @Ari-6
    @Ari-6 6 лет назад +255

    I'm still bitter about the James Gunn thing. The worst part is if he hadn't attracted attention to himself, no one would have cared. Disney doesn't care. But because he drew negative public opinion, Disney dropped him on his ass. Great video man, I lost it at that Teen Titans comparison!

    • @lobstermagnetreview
      @lobstermagnetreview  6 лет назад +19

      Glad you liked that bit. I might make a video going in depth about my thoughts on that because I'm furious on a lot of levels because of it. For both sides.

    • @tdfern1
      @tdfern1 6 лет назад +11

      Aaron Parker Man I hope James Gunn can still return and they are just overreacting because of some conservative opinions.

    • @bilza247
      @bilza247 6 лет назад +3

      Yep. So sad.

    • @sedevacante6591
      @sedevacante6591 6 лет назад +8

      You're all out of your liberal lunatic leftist progressive minds. Eat a big bag of boiled Shit. Then shove it up your hypocritical asses.

    • @jaredcardenas813
      @jaredcardenas813 6 лет назад +21

      Aaron Parker I hate this narrative that people actually cared about what Gunn had said. It was that dumb alt-right idiot Mike Cernovich who redug that stuff to scared Disney of a backlash that never happened.

  • @aviram7129
    @aviram7129 3 года назад +6

    The Dark Knight is better than everything the DCEU has put out

  • @iOnyxApple
    @iOnyxApple 6 лет назад +57

    I think the fact that you could tell this entire story without the Nolan story preceding it shows that you should be blaming Snyder for killing it, not Nolan. It's like saying the reason why xbone isn't doing well (compared to ps4 with customer satisfaction) Is because the xbox360 was such an amazing system and so far ahead of ps3. Doesn't make sense to me, just because someone set a bar, it's not their fault that everyone after them failed trying to imitate them. Either set a higer bar or find another one.

    • @3Rayfire
      @3Rayfire 6 лет назад +8

      Good analogy...but the Xbox One still has more customer satisfaction than the DCEU.

    • @lanaz375
      @lanaz375 6 лет назад +8

      Totally agree. Also nolan was never responsible for creating a universe, so why would he have taken that into account? He created a trilogy was self contained. Something to consider

    • @blackmanwhitesuit
      @blackmanwhitesuit 6 лет назад +3

      ...but the Xbox one isn't doing well because the Xbox 360 did so well they got comfortable and the PS4 is doing better than the PS3 because of the competitive drive from the PS3 loss. All you can hope is to innovate enough while staying familiar and hope to catch a break.

    • @elski5958
      @elski5958 6 лет назад +1

      I say this with newer generations.
      You never want to be first.
      Ps3 then 360. 360 won.
      Xbox One then PS4. PS4 won. Granted I think ps4 wins 100% due to their exclusives. God of War and Spiderman kinda just put the nails in the coffin. X1 doesn't really compare in exclusives. Got your shooters like Halo and Gears...but really those are like CoD, they get old after so many.

    • @blackmanwhitesuit
      @blackmanwhitesuit 6 лет назад +2

      El Ski, didn't PS2 come out before the original Xbox? I think it just comes down to foresight and marketability. How focused on that era of gaming is the console? How long will that console last?

  • @efenege2
    @efenege2 6 лет назад +124

    Bruce Timm and Paul Dini should be the executive producers of all the DC Movies

    • @MrBazBake
      @MrBazBake 6 лет назад +14

      Too bad the former gave us The Killing Joke and Harley and Batman.

    • @2nd3rd1st
      @2nd3rd1st 6 лет назад +8

      Let me rephrase you: Bruce Timm and Paul Dini should be executing all producers of the DC Movies

    • @jacobaarum
      @jacobaarum 6 лет назад +7

      Paul Dini sure, Bruce Timm made Batman and Batgirl have sex and made Nightwing and Harley have sex. Dude's got a weird fetish it seems.

    • @Batz130
      @Batz130 6 лет назад +1

      Sooo Bruce timm and Paul dini are still with WB and these are the movies we get. 😑

    • @tilaNmanx
      @tilaNmanx 6 лет назад

      Timm just can't be in total control or we'll have to suffer through all of his fanfictions

  • @abhijeetjadhav2961
    @abhijeetjadhav2961 5 лет назад +199

    Christopher nolan is like God of Movie Industry.... Give him trash, he ll turn it into gold

    • @roarblast7332
      @roarblast7332 5 лет назад +5

      Like insomnia.

    • @JayGriffinblaze
      @JayGriffinblaze 5 лет назад +2

      @Abhijeet Yes... the god of biting other's ideas.

    • @damawsomedan
      @damawsomedan 5 лет назад +4

      Cough *Intersteller

    • @JayGriffinblaze
      @JayGriffinblaze 5 лет назад +3

      *cough cough* Interstellar was his brother's script from 2007. He jumped on that bandwagon too.

    • @damawsomedan
      @damawsomedan 5 лет назад +5

      JayGriffinblaze thats not really a “biting” example directors usually dont write completely original scripts, my point to the original commentary is that its a failure of a movie and the script is trash which he didnt save

  • @t0m653
    @t0m653 4 года назад +8

    "It's not about how good your CGI, it"s about telling a good story"

  • @SamSilk
    @SamSilk 5 лет назад +140

    I agree 100% with you. Snyder didn't even tried to understand the core of the DC characters he was supposed to adapt on the big screen. A lot of his story in both Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman is based on the assumption that Superman is capable of killing. Nothing could be more wrong. The real superpower of Superman in the comics is to be an pure incarnation of justice and good. He can't kill, period. Not for Lois Lane, not to save his mother, not even to save Earth. He will always find another answer and that should have been the road taken. He's described in the comics as an antithesis of Batman, the latter being more enclined to use any means necessary. From there, even the choice of color grading in Man of Steel is wrong. Superman should've been much more colorful. These characters are archetypes, some scholars compare them to ancient heroes such as Hercules or Ulysses. You can't tell their stories if you don't know what is their fundamental character trait.

    • @SamSilk
      @SamSilk 5 лет назад +1

      @Santos Lewynn i agree

    • @youngknowledgeseeker
      @youngknowledgeseeker 5 лет назад +6

      Exactly! It would have been fine having a Superman or Batman movie where they kill and are extra dark, but NOT in the first movies! First build up the characters, and TRUE to their actual personas, then in sequels, preferably later then sooner, show them going through dark times/character changes/moral conundrums. Did the mcu start off with Ironman fighting captain America for a random dumbfuck reason? Did they start captain America off as a dark brooding mercenary? Imagine starting Peter Parker off as a criminal branding gangbanger who just doesn’t give a fuck or something (roflmao)? DCeu’s not dead just set back in a coma for years. Only a fresh remake will truly save it and bring it the glory it deserves. Start with good origin stories which are going to be even more boring now since we already know them. Tease team ups. Tease heroes knowledge and opinions of each other. Establish their motivations, personal views in the world and m.o.’s. DONT fuck up or waste MAJOR storylines (death of Superman 🤦🏽‍♂️) Showcase what makes us love the characters in terms of their personalities and powers, and hit this hard, dc shows particularly excel here (the hulk, cap, and spidey are marvels excellers in this area). DON’T fuck up or waste major villains (like doomsday smh 🤦🏽‍♂️), and everything I wrote above pretty much applies to villains too. I remember watching the last episode of jlu where Superman reveals just how insanely op and strong he is if he removed all his mental blocks and really knew he could hit someone (darkseid) as hard and fast as he wanted and they wouldn’t die. Super powered fights are always cool, but what made it stick with me for so many years and so amazing is that it was slowly and meticulously built towards. Peaceful by nature Superman slowly showing his real strength, Batman knowing all along what a monster he really is or could be, darkseid constantly pushing him to the edge morally. We all felt invested because it was written well and true to the characters. If Superman had killed darkseid out of necessity in that episode or when he killed dan Turpin it would have been 100x easier to swallow than in man of steel. Batman being dark and super brutal to the point of mindlessly killing because of Jason Todd would have been fine too if properly and patiently executed.

    • @lishlash3749
      @lishlash3749 5 лет назад +7

      The problem with Snyder is how he cut his superhero teeth on Watchmen, which was a fatalistic deconstruction of superhero mythology. Once he popped that cherry, he couldn't revert back to a pristine vision of superhero integrity that he'd never experienced in the first place. He's a destroyer of empires, not a builder of universes.

    • @WeAreLegion1904
      @WeAreLegion1904 5 лет назад +6

      you know the problem with characters and not killing is? It requires the writer to give the character a choice. There is always some deus ex machina sollution to characters like that. It works quite well with batman these days because batman is an interesting hero overall. He has weaknesses and flaws. Superman does not. I hate snyders batman. It goes against everything batman is because batman had a choice in the killings/murders. It bothers me alot because you can make batman fight brutal without killing. To show a brutal version of batman he just need to break bones. The last fight in BvS was done well except bats would have saved the grenade guys.... I am not sure if the guy he stabbed in the shoulder survived or not. At least he put superman in a no choice scenario. You can argue that superman could do this, that or whatever but I think it was done ok. The only thing in Man of steel I hate is the way Jonathon Kent died. Man of Steel was an enjoyable film but BvS and JL are pure garbage.

    • @veritas4733
      @veritas4733 5 лет назад

      @@WeAreLegion1904
      Yo also watch:
      Batman Does Not Kill.
      Its inspiring af.

  • @RossM3838
    @RossM3838 6 лет назад +27

    The 1978 superman movie is bright colorful and hilarious. After all they are COMIC books. That movie stands up wonderfully even with its noncomputer effects.

    • @dhenderson1810
      @dhenderson1810 6 лет назад +5

      Plus Christopher Reeve played Superman as he should be played, as a glorified super-powered boy scout. It was corny, but at least watching those Superman films were fun (though Superman III took it too far with Richard Pryor), not the depressing borefest that was MOS.
      When I go to the movies, I want to feel happy, not like I want to blow my brains out afterwards.

    • @RossM3838
      @RossM3838 6 лет назад +4

      Reeves Superman is a nice guy who grew up unnoticed in Kansas. He wants only to do the right thing by people. We really like him (and Clark). At one point Reeve goes from Clark to Superman and back to Clark in one long take, no effects at all. He simply changes his posture and facial expression. Its great.

    • @dhenderson1810
      @dhenderson1810 6 лет назад

      About the "nice guy" thing. The best part of Superman III was when Superman became bad, and battled his "good side" Clark Kent in a junkyard.

  • @KanadasKid
    @KanadasKid 6 лет назад +62

    fun fact: nolan said the long halloween served as further inspiration for the dark knight than the killing joke

    • @_XR40_
      @_XR40_ 6 лет назад +6

      Makes sense to me. I never saw any particular elements of The Killing Joke in Dark Knight - Not a trace...

    • @KanadasKid
      @KanadasKid 6 лет назад +5

      the jokers plan was apparently straight from the killing joke, but instead of driving gordon insane and failing, he drives harvey insane and succeeds

    • @_XR40_
      @_XR40_ 6 лет назад +7

      Sorry, can't agree. Both plans involved trying to make someone crazy, but that is the only similarity. _Every other detail_ is different. You might as well say that any movie with the Joker is "straight from" any story with the Joker.
      (Aside from which, Harvey Dent in Dark Knight is already half-crazy. He's perfectly willing to kill, already using his trick coin to decide such matters even _before_ Rachel is killed and he is disfigured. If you pay attention, he's an unstable character and "driving him insane" isn't a long trip. He's sort of a less well-adjusted version of Batman, if that makes sense.)

    • @KanadasKid
      @KanadasKid 6 лет назад +2

      i dont super agree with your analogy but yeah fair

  • @afrazpatankar1296
    @afrazpatankar1296 5 лет назад +11

    The best thing that happened to DC was Batman trilogy. DC killed itself by trying to make Batman vs Superman dark

    • @tonpaynejr1812
      @tonpaynejr1812 5 лет назад +1

      That story is dark originally wdym ???

    • @genghiskhan7691
      @genghiskhan7691 3 года назад

      Correction: Batman trilogy was the best thing to happen to DC movies, not in general, though it's one of the best along with the Arkham games and animated series.

    • @lye27
      @lye27 3 года назад

      @Bradyn Kerr I agree that DCEU is bad. But nowhere MCU is masterpiece lmao, they are 'fast food of cinema'😂

  • @thomssbentzen8258
    @thomssbentzen8258 6 лет назад +24

    The dark knight rises destroyed their chances because they set the bar so high.

    • @southwestdairyfarmers2952
      @southwestdairyfarmers2952 6 лет назад

      @Sammy Smith DKR is overrated

    • @OkyDooky
      @OkyDooky 6 лет назад +1

      @@southwestdairyfarmers2952 I don't know, man. It seems pretty equally loved and hated.

    • @namechanges5359
      @namechanges5359 6 лет назад

      @OkyDooky you pretty much got it down

  • @Iron-Black-Sabbath-Maiden
    @Iron-Black-Sabbath-Maiden 5 лет назад +48

    Nolan made you care for Bruce Wayne and Batman the same which is not easy to pull off.

  • @ArsxnIV
    @ArsxnIV 3 года назад +6

    If they wanted to fix the DCEU, then they need a flashpoint movie to hit the 'reset' button and start from the beginning.