I love that the their podcasts are becoming more and more frequent + more current !!! Its like what took place on the news yesterday will be covered by them tomorrow! Kudos!!!
Will Smith, first he laugh at the joke ; then he got angry and smack Chris for a known joke ; then he cried and that he is emotional ; then he went clubbing and was laughing and having a good time ; then he felt sorry and apologise on twitter and say he is a work in progress. "He is a work in progress indeed" such a good actor
I think jacky's first ex asking him sleeping with someone else, is a sign of her making herself to feel better for her own actions. those words are for selfish reasons.
Congrats on your new studio! I'm not a professional acoustic consultant, but there is a certain acoustic property that is better in your previous location. Not sure if its just the type of mic or the acoustic property of the room. There are more echos/reverberations in this room. May need more acoustic panels fitted for a studio recording. Looking fwd to final outcome!
ya boy, jp based. and besides, the point is that GI jane is badass, and no one actually thinks jada looks bad bald. she's objectively good looking (although rotten on the inside). that joke wasn't even insulting, it was just like a corny reference to an old and iconic movie. I think that's what chris rock meant by 'it's a GI jane joke'. it was more of 'you remind me of GI jane' not 'lol ur bald'. no one thought GI jane was lame for being bald - GI jane was a navy seal.
its funny idk why when Jackie was sharing his open relationship story, he kinda fits right into murakami's novels, he has that exact softness(inner/outer) and the yearning for the lady while shes spends her time with other partners in life (be it a secret from jackie or not).
Both of them are wrong. Violence is definitely a no-go. Additionally, talking about something so personal in the name of humour, especially on national TV is not ok. It’s like saying “just joking” after leaving a nasty comment.
If I was in Will's situation, clearly enjoying the show, I would've shouted back to Chris to just keep the subject of jokes strictly to me and leave my wife out of it.
12:32 I don't believe that the reaction was in response of being the subject of the joke. It is because a person's medical condition was being used as the joke. As Chris Rock had said in his apology, even as a comedian, there are some lines that you do not cross. And a person's medical condition is one of those lines. I'm sure celebrities all know and somewhat accept that they can be targetted for a joke at any time, but I don't believe it should involve their medical condition if they have one.
@@3mKay Hah! So comedians really believe that there is no line when it comes to jokes huh? Well, perhaps someone should give them a taste of their own medicine sometime.
Love your podcasts and content. One small tip to improve the learning experience is to reduce clipping on the audio. Noticed that in quite a few episodes.
will smith's relationship is open to everything but jokes 🤡 but fr, I don't think the slap is why open rs do not work; correlation is NOT causation (disclaimer: I don't believe in polygamy)
Sure Will Smith violence is definitely wrong but it is super BS that comedy has no lines that need to be drawn. Does this means as long as you put a guises of a joke it is okay to insult or to worst extent defame, harm people mentally maybe or spread misinformation etc everything is fair game. Arguing that when a line is drawn, comedy will slowly go down the slippery slope to only saying knock knock joke is is illogical. They key is how the line in comedy is drawn and not move around without reason instead of saying we are not going to drawn a line forever.
at the end of the day it is all about environment and context. Comedians dont insult everyone they see in public. But they do it in settings that allows them to do so. All jokes are going to offend someone at some point in time. Look at Ricky Gervais roasting everyone in golden globes, dont see him getting punched. These comedians are literally being paid to roast the audience in these events.
Since the moment I saw that clip on tik tok, I imagined myself being in Will's shoes and I must say, in this situation, both parties are kind of in the wrong here. Chris Rock should've looked up why Jada was bald and Will Smith shouldn't have used any force on Chris. If a comedian made fun of my wife in the same context and I have the same stature as Will, I would've walked up with the same swag and talk to Chris about my wife's illness in a whisper like "yo dawg, not cool. My wife's ill, man". I'm sure Chris would have taken the joke back and apologise. PS: Andrew Garfield should've won the Oscar.
Chris Rock made a distasteful joke in hindsight and really there are two types of people in this world, people who will be mad offended and people who have no issues laughing at themselves. Regardless, the best way to take it is to be calm and if offence was taken then things can be worked out off stage. Will Smith could've been more mature about the whole situation and demand a public apology off stage, off air and people would be on his side because Chris would look like the real ass here. But what Will did was the worst way to react which is to use violence and shouting profanities on live TV. Now he's the bigger ass here and it's made worse by the fact that he laughed at the joke initially. Both are in the wrong but Will was wayyyy out of line. Not something you'd expect a 50 year old adult male. But hey, maybe something snapped in Will and that he had a temporary lapse of judgement. The man does look like he's going through a rough patch and we can only speculate about his mental health. Society tend to pressure celebrities into living their lives flawlessly and that's probably the worst thing about being so famous. Everything you do or say will become front page news, for better or for worse. You literally can't be a human cause to be human is to be flawed.
I have lot of console, but in the end; PSP is the only one my favorite, that is one of reason why open or polygamous relationship can't work, but for some people might do work out. P.s that whole Chris apologize is hoax btw
one thing these comics do not understand is that they have expanded their line. Stand up used to be joke not mockery roast or insult. Joking on group stereotype etc is understandable but if u just pick a single person out and have everyone laugh at him that was what we identified as bullying
You guys don't know the whole part.. Find the part in RUclips where Will was devastated by Jada cheating and how Jada "persuaded" that she was not cheating on him.. And find the clip for the uncensored version of the slap incident on The Guardian as you will see the off camera what went on.. It's not about defending out not, but in the first place being vulnerable and manipulate by others and doing things that believe in defending..
@@TheDailyKetchupPodcast Awesome, I knew it! Was betting with my wife if I could guess the watch correctly. Haha! Looking to pick up SBGH273, the four seasons fall version myself.
there shld be a level of sensitivity even if you are a comedian. Like every other people, comedians should know which topic to not go to since it will be triggering to people, especially when you are speaking to not one but many. If the person u made fun of is not finding it funny, then its not a joke, but an insult. know your lane.
at least she could dress nicely and attend the oscars. some people with a less serious like panic attack will find it difficult to attend any functions
Saying that no lines should be drawn in comedy is completely ridiculous. Just how unfunny can you possibly be if the jokes you make include making fun of a sick person? Sick people get the brunt of a lot of things already, just give them a break :/ Saying that it's their problem if they can't handle it is cruel
Alopecia is just the medical term for balding.... so everytime you make fun of anyone that is balding, you are essentially make fun of someone with a medical condition... But how come nobody said anything when people make fun of bald men?
there needs to be a line. dont tell me you will make a joke that will put you in jail? Does it mean that a comedian doesnt need to care about feelings of some people who are going through a difficult time? For e.g, is it wise to make a joke on wars or flight tragedies? Shouldnt comedians have sort of awareness too?
if you've ever laughed at someone falling down, you've laughed at someone going through a difficult time. It's all about perspective isn't it? What is funny to you might be offensive to others and vice versa. Does that mean we all stop laughing completely? If you can't make a joke about baldness, you cant joke about sh*t.
Open relations are another model on the spectrum of relationship models, even the hetero-normaltive ones does not work for 50% of the population considering the amount of sexless/loveless/cheating and divorces statistically. Open relationships requires alot of self-awareness,attention to own's insecurities, building on a 'customized' fit for both humans in it based on trust,openness, vulnerabilities and honesty. So obviously both partners or the foundations in question here wasn't fit or ready to progress into an open relationship.
If that is the case, would it be fine to make fun of holocaust survivors just because they are in your audience? The Smiths came for the Academy Awards, not to attend a joke fest at their expense.
Pete Davidson received and made those jokes all the time. And no, academy awards host are all comics, I could be wrong, but show me a presenter or host that cracked 0 jokes. So it is already expected.
@@jiawei0917 Actually not all Academy Award hosts are comics, Anne Hathaway (2011),& Alec Baldwin (2010) are more recent hosts who, while they might have some comic chops, aren't comics persay. Further Chris Rock wasn't there as host. If you really want to get technical about it, the hosts for 2022 were Regina Hall, Amy Schumer and Wanda Sykes. And you seem to have missed the point entirely. It's not about NOT making jokes. Its about the appropriateness of the jokes. There are lines that must not be crossed. 1) This is not a Chris Rock comedy special, this is the Academy Awards. 2) To claim 'it is already expected' just because he is a comedian is sophistry. No one attends the Academy Awards to be the butt of jokes. they attend the awards to be recognised for their work done, and possible win the highest form of the recognition, which is the SAG awards. 3) Just because someone is in your presence doesn't automatically make them fair game. If you really want a slippery slope to avoid standing on, that's the one you should be aware of. What Chris Rock did, and what was suggested in the podcast, was that as long as you are in the audience you are fair game and you shouldn't be there if you didn't want to be that 'fair game'. You seem to forget this wasn't a comedy fest hosted by Chris and attended by the Smiths. No matter how you try to spin this, the fact is, they attended the SAG awards ceremony cause Wil Smith was being recognised for his acting, not because Chris Rock was a presenter who was there to make adlib jokes. Further in any comedy fest, there are lines that can never be crossed for various reasons. to make a claim that there are no lines that cannot be crossed because it's a slippery slope and because it limits the comedian says much about the comedian's abilities. As I asked, would it be fine to make fun of a holocaust survivor just because he/she is in your audience? Do you seriously want to argue that it is ok to make jokes about the victims of the holocaust to a holocaust victim? To put it in a Singapore context, would it be appropriate to make fun to survivor of Kempeitai torture about their torture? Or perhaps make jokes about rape directed to a rape victim? I am not saying that Wil Smith's reaction is appropriate or proportional to the slight he might have felt at Jada being targeted for suffering from Alopecia. But how right or wrong Wil Smith was, does not justify Chris Rock targeting Jada for her medical condition.
Listening to the r/s stories, wtf is wrong w/ all the young ppl nowadays man? Don't most got self respect? Screwing w/ random ppl even when in a serious r/s
What medical condition? Alopecia basically means dropping hair! Men has been dropping hair and being made fun of... of course normally we shouldn't, but that was traditionally what awards shows are about.
I love that the their podcasts are becoming more and more frequent + more current !!! Its like what took place on the news yesterday will be covered by them tomorrow! Kudos!!!
Respect to Will for defending his son's friend's girl.
Will Smith, first he laugh at the joke ; then he got angry and smack Chris for a known joke ; then he cried and that he is emotional ; then he went clubbing and was laughing and having a good time ; then he felt sorry and apologise on twitter and say he is a work in progress. "He is a work in progress indeed" such a good actor
I think jacky's first ex asking him sleeping with someone else, is a sign of her making herself to feel better for her own actions. those words are for selfish reasons.
Congrats on your new studio! I'm not a professional acoustic consultant, but there is a certain acoustic property that is better in your previous location. Not sure if its just the type of mic or the acoustic property of the room. There are more echos/reverberations in this room. May need more acoustic panels fitted for a studio recording. Looking fwd to final outcome!
ya boy, jp based. and besides, the point is that GI jane is badass, and no one actually thinks jada looks bad bald. she's objectively good looking (although rotten on the inside). that joke wasn't even insulting, it was just like a corny reference to an old and iconic movie. I think that's what chris rock meant by 'it's a GI jane joke'. it was more of 'you remind me of GI jane' not 'lol ur bald'. no one thought GI jane was lame for being bald - GI jane was a navy seal.
I swear Keiji looks a lot like Jacky! 🤣
He really does.... manifesting for them to collab someday
Jokes sent, all smiling, rolled eyes, then execute “order 66” 💥
its funny idk why when Jackie was sharing his open relationship story, he kinda fits right into murakami's novels, he has that exact softness(inner/outer) and the yearning for the lady while shes spends her time with other partners in life (be it a secret from jackie or not).
Both of them are wrong. Violence is definitely a no-go. Additionally, talking about something so personal in the name of humour, especially on national TV is not ok. It’s like saying “just joking” after leaving a nasty comment.
Kudos to Denise for asking interesting questions!
Curious if there are no lines drawn, then should racist jokes be tolerated?
If I was in Will's situation, clearly enjoying the show, I would've shouted back to Chris to just keep the subject of jokes strictly to me and leave my wife out of it.
admire jacky's courage in life. you are the man.
12:32 I don't believe that the reaction was in response of being the subject of the joke. It is because a person's medical condition was being used as the joke. As Chris Rock had said in his apology, even as a comedian, there are some lines that you do not cross. And a person's medical condition is one of those lines. I'm sure celebrities all know and somewhat accept that they can be targetted for a joke at any time, but I don't believe it should involve their medical condition if they have one.
that apology is fake, Chris Rock's publicist confirmed that.
@@3mKay Hah! So comedians really believe that there is no line when it comes to jokes huh? Well, perhaps someone should give them a taste of their own medicine sometime.
Love your podcasts and content. One small tip to improve the learning experience is to reduce clipping on the audio. Noticed that in quite a few episodes.
Really appreciate the time stamps 👍
Please do more of such situations!! I.e. grey areas. Right for bf to enjoy but right for gf to ask for updates.
01:00 is it lumbar or something else? Haha my ears got problem
He almost laughed but he tarik back because no one seemed to laugh hahahaha
Abit swayed away in pronunciation
Good that you all doing well, starting to upgrade your studio with good chair and table~
will smith's relationship is open to everything but jokes 🤡
but fr, I don't think the slap is why open rs do not work; correlation is NOT causation
(disclaimer: I don't believe in polygamy)
I was looking out for this Will Chris episode... And finally it's here. Good one
Sure Will Smith violence is definitely wrong but it is super BS that comedy has no lines that need to be drawn. Does this means as long as you put a guises of a joke it is okay to insult or to worst extent defame, harm people mentally maybe or spread misinformation etc everything is fair game. Arguing that when a line is drawn, comedy will slowly go down the slippery slope to only saying knock knock joke is is illogical. They key is how the line in comedy is drawn and not move around without reason instead of saying we are not going to drawn a line forever.
at the end of the day it is all about environment and context. Comedians dont insult everyone they see in public. But they do it in settings that allows them to do so. All jokes are going to offend someone at some point in time. Look at Ricky Gervais roasting everyone in golden globes, dont see him getting punched. These comedians are literally being paid to roast the audience in these events.
its how will himself laughed before seeing jada not, which led him to slap chris rock. like why dont he just slap himself then?
Aww jacky was a great guest! Love this episode:)
29:00 open relationship oooof, doesn't work....
I'm surprised Ricky Gervais is still alive after 6 years hosting the golden globe 🤣🤣
Since the moment I saw that clip on tik tok, I imagined myself being in Will's shoes and I must say, in this situation, both parties are kind of in the wrong here.
Chris Rock should've looked up why Jada was bald and Will Smith shouldn't have used any force on Chris. If a comedian made fun of my wife in the same context and I have the same stature as Will, I would've walked up with the same swag and talk to Chris about my wife's illness in a whisper like "yo dawg, not cool. My wife's ill, man".
I'm sure Chris would have taken the joke back and apologise.
PS: Andrew Garfield should've won the Oscar.
Chris Rock made a distasteful joke in hindsight and really there are two types of people in this world, people who will be mad offended and people who have no issues laughing at themselves. Regardless, the best way to take it is to be calm and if offence was taken then things can be worked out off stage. Will Smith could've been more mature about the whole situation and demand a public apology off stage, off air and people would be on his side because Chris would look like the real ass here.
But what Will did was the worst way to react which is to use violence and shouting profanities on live TV. Now he's the bigger ass here and it's made worse by the fact that he laughed at the joke initially. Both are in the wrong but Will was wayyyy out of line. Not something you'd expect a 50 year old adult male. But hey, maybe something snapped in Will and that he had a temporary lapse of judgement. The man does look like he's going through a rough patch and we can only speculate about his mental health. Society tend to pressure celebrities into living their lives flawlessly and that's probably the worst thing about being so famous. Everything you do or say will become front page news, for better or for worse. You literally can't be a human cause to be human is to be flawed.
The Chris Rock apology is fake. His management team came out to clarify that Chris Rock has not issued any apology.
I have lot of console, but in the end; PSP is the only one my favorite, that is one of reason why open or polygamous relationship can't work, but for some people might do work out. P.s that whole Chris apologize is hoax btw
Guess i'm gonna call it - upgraded set!
Bring back the pink and blue lights!
honestly if it wasn't for the slap, I wouldn't know Oscar happened.
Awesome
Really enjoyed Keiji’s comments in this episode..
one thing these comics do not understand is that they have expanded their line. Stand up used to be joke not mockery roast or insult. Joking on group stereotype etc is understandable but if u just pick a single person out and have everyone laugh at him that was what we identified as bullying
HAHAHHAHAHA 🤣 “Got wind blow only , it’ll drop. “ 👀
The Everdesk is a good buy!
You guys don't know the whole part..
Find the part in RUclips where Will was devastated by Jada cheating and how Jada "persuaded" that she was not cheating on him..
And find the clip for the uncensored version of the slap incident on The Guardian as you will see the off camera what went on..
It's not about defending out not, but in the first place being vulnerable and manipulate by others and doing things that believe in defending..
What's the white dial watch Dan is wearing? GS?
Yes! The Grand Seiko “Snowflake”
- Dan
@@TheDailyKetchupPodcast Awesome, I knew it!
Was betting with my wife if I could guess the watch correctly. Haha!
Looking to pick up SBGH273, the four seasons fall version myself.
"this is what Sarah did to Abraham" 😂 ded
Jokes aside, good riddance la Jacky you dodged a bullet man
Initially WS was laughing so cannot comprehend why he hit Chris after!
repping the hougang shirt
Talking about lines, you should watch Jim Jefferies monologue about lines in comedy.
Yo audio is quite bad this ep, good content tho
there shld be a level of sensitivity even if you are a comedian. Like every other people, comedians should know which topic to not go to since it will be triggering to people, especially when you are speaking to not one but many. If the person u made fun of is not finding it funny, then its not a joke, but an insult. know your lane.
at least she could dress nicely and attend the oscars. some people with a less serious like panic attack will find it difficult to attend any functions
Is it just me but I thought jacky ng was keiji umehara at first hahaha 💀💀
Nobody has the right to not to be offended. Simple as that.
Saying that no lines should be drawn in comedy is completely ridiculous. Just how unfunny can you possibly be if the jokes you make include making fun of a sick person? Sick people get the brunt of a lot of things already, just give them a break :/
Saying that it's their problem if they can't handle it is cruel
OMGAWD KEIJI AS A GUEST!!!!!!!!!!
John's awkwardness during Dan's intro rating: 2/10
Too awkward or not awkward enough
@@JohnathanChuaa the higher the rating, the more awkward. For this episode not awkward enough haha
Yo, if joke is on "her side" lik as in "her prob". Then what if people make joke of your mum? "Her prob"?
Chris rock wasn’t awkward…. Will was awkward and asked to leave
Alopecia is just the medical term for balding.... so everytime you make fun of anyone that is balding, you are essentially make fun of someone with a medical condition...
But how come nobody said anything when people make fun of bald men?
A joke is a joke, if audience gonna react violently to jokes, Russel peters would be dead by now.😂
Lol sorry at 1st look i thought jacky was keiji umehara
Guys protect your girls. And not do nothing. Words hurts :(
there needs to be a line. dont tell me you will make a joke that will put you in jail? Does it mean that a comedian doesnt need to care about feelings of some people who are going through a difficult time? For e.g, is it wise to make a joke on wars or flight tragedies? Shouldnt comedians have sort of awareness too?
if you've ever laughed at someone falling down, you've laughed at someone going through a difficult time. It's all about perspective isn't it? What is funny to you might be offensive to others and vice versa. Does that mean we all stop laughing completely? If you can't make a joke about baldness, you cant joke about sh*t.
Oooo new table …………
Will smith sick of his dead shot role and wants to try out for joker
Open relations are another model on the spectrum of relationship models, even the hetero-normaltive ones does not work for 50% of the population considering the amount of sexless/loveless/cheating and divorces statistically. Open relationships requires alot of self-awareness,attention to own's insecurities, building on a 'customized' fit for both humans in it based on trust,openness, vulnerabilities and honesty. So obviously both partners or the foundations in question here wasn't fit or ready to progress into an open relationship.
everyone is falling into the trap... even local news allocated a segment for this incident. not worthy for any discussion imo.
comment for the underwear jokes
If that is the case, would it be fine to make fun of holocaust survivors just because they are in your audience? The Smiths came for the Academy Awards, not to attend a joke fest at their expense.
Pete Davidson received and made those jokes all the time. And no, academy awards host are all comics, I could be wrong, but show me a presenter or host that cracked 0 jokes. So it is already expected.
@@jiawei0917 Actually not all Academy Award hosts are comics, Anne Hathaway (2011),& Alec Baldwin (2010) are more recent hosts who, while they might have some comic chops, aren't comics persay. Further Chris Rock wasn't there as host. If you really want to get technical about it, the hosts for 2022 were Regina Hall, Amy Schumer and Wanda Sykes.
And you seem to have missed the point entirely. It's not about NOT making jokes. Its about the appropriateness of the jokes. There are lines that must not be crossed.
1) This is not a Chris Rock comedy special, this is the Academy Awards.
2) To claim 'it is already expected' just because he is a comedian is sophistry. No one attends the Academy Awards to be the butt of jokes. they attend the awards to be recognised for their work done, and possible win the highest form of the recognition, which is the SAG awards.
3) Just because someone is in your presence doesn't automatically make them fair game. If you really want a slippery slope to avoid standing on, that's the one you should be aware of. What Chris Rock did, and what was suggested in the podcast, was that as long as you are in the audience you are fair game and you shouldn't be there if you didn't want to be that 'fair game'.
You seem to forget this wasn't a comedy fest hosted by Chris and attended by the Smiths. No matter how you try to spin this, the fact is, they attended the SAG awards ceremony cause Wil Smith was being recognised for his acting, not because Chris Rock was a presenter who was there to make adlib jokes. Further in any comedy fest, there are lines that can never be crossed for various reasons. to make a claim that there are no lines that cannot be crossed because it's a slippery slope and because it limits the comedian says much about the comedian's abilities.
As I asked, would it be fine to make fun of a holocaust survivor just because he/she is in your audience? Do you seriously want to argue that it is ok to make jokes about the victims of the holocaust to a holocaust victim?
To put it in a Singapore context, would it be appropriate to make fun to survivor of Kempeitai torture about their torture? Or perhaps make jokes about rape directed to a rape victim?
I am not saying that Wil Smith's reaction is appropriate or proportional to the slight he might have felt at Jada being targeted for suffering from Alopecia. But how right or wrong Wil Smith was, does not justify Chris Rock targeting Jada for her medical condition.
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Listening to the r/s stories, wtf is wrong w/ all the young ppl nowadays man? Don't most got self respect?
Screwing w/ random ppl even when in a serious r/s
I hear jada laughed when will slapped chris.
That guy mispronounced lumbar is sneaky...
What medical condition? Alopecia basically means dropping hair! Men has been dropping hair and being made fun of... of course normally we shouldn't, but that was traditionally what awards shows are about.
from thumbnail tot was Keiji
anything white black cannot.... except for carrot cake LOL
Jon Chua look like a property lim brother
How dare you
EARLYYY
Boring subject by boring intellectuals …
Algooooooooo