@@InSaN3ViSioN It actually doesn’t, but it does have a lot more people saying it’s bloody ugly whereas the reception to the Hummer is overwhelmingly positive.
The drag due to wind eliminates not in a loop because the drag is non linear! This applies also to velocity differences. If you go faster to compensate for a lower speed in order to keep a certain average speed it will not work that way. Because of the non linearity!! Keep that in mind!
I've got a Ed1 I put the 22" OEM rims on a more road oriented Wrangler AT and I'm getting close to 380 miles at 70mph at about 72F and no wind. Instrumented acceleration in WTF is 3.05sec to 60.
While I love my F150 Lightning there are some things I'd like to see. One would also be handy on a Rivian or even a Hummer EV, the "eco" mode option that would say switch to 2-wheel drive instead of all 4 (so, in Ford's case only powering 1 motor instead of 2), but it could use the non-propelling motor to regenerate while braking. I think that could really extend range in situations when one isn't towing/hauling or driving for sport performance or off-roading.
Looking at Tire Rack they do not carry a single option in the factory size (305/55-22). Not sure when more options will be available since I’m sure no other vehicle uses such a ludicrous fitment.
In the UK Instavolt uses the same chargers. Even those rated for 50kw rarely reach their potential. The 350s are much better but the 50 and 150s aren’t great. We have to pay 79p per kW for the privilege of using them, meaning that even a small battery will cost as much as an ICE for a full charge.
Last digit you mentioned probably is hidden by programming because no one ever really will need it except you 😂 so it shows only the digits before that. Doesn't matter if it closer to next one or the previous, it's about programming :)
3x range is listed as 381 though. Does this mean the 3x would use the power more efficiently than a 2x by distributing the power to 3 motors instead of 2??
@@Discoducky73 My home energy is $0.12 per kwh, so 220kwh would be 27 bucks. Fast chargers are expensive for sure, but even then it's usually under $0.40 which would make it 88 bucks. If you compare to a 12mpg H2 then to go 300miles would be takes 25 gallons of fuel which at 4 bucks a gallon is 100 bucks . . . All that though, and I doubt anyone buying a Hummer is caring about the efficiency and savings on milage.
My 3800 pound 2018 Tesla Model 3 probably gets appox 3 miles/KWH at 70MPH, so for a 9000 pound not very aerodynamic vehicle 1.4 miles/KWH is fairly impressive. Next time you might want to mirror your range test with your 2019 Model 3. Great video thanks!
So, about 310 miles at 70 mph? If it can't maintain 70 mph, then the 70 mph range test is done... also, if cruise control shuts off at 5%, then my goal would be to never go below 5%... so when cruise shut off you were at 307 miles, so real world you have an effective 70 mph range of 305 miles.
"The non-Tesla DC fast-charging network is a mishmash of crud. If you want to take an EV road trip, it's easy in a Tesla and dicey in anything else." -Ezra Dyer (C&D Sep '22)
@@tdpiersonavoca I don’t see why they would only be limited to the new L3 chargers but fair enough. I’ve learned as an EV and petrol household for the last half decade to use them based on their strengths. And for roadtrips, petrol is just a lot better, even with the supercharger network. I’m hoping for a major battery technology breakthrough, we need one for BEV’s to achieve their potential.
I’ve got a question I was in the market for the Hummer EV I see they’re still doing reviews on the vehicle but I also know there’s a recall your honest opinion is it worth the risk of buying the vehicle.
I still cant get past this vehicle weighing over 9000 pounds. And can do 0-60 in around 3.5 seconds. Like WTF. This is one of the vehicles you see and just pray they dont hit you.
I think they’re very nice looking. Not super practical for a daily but if you have a big family and need to tow a boat or trailer this should be nice for that
LOL @ no spare tire. What will you do if you get a flat ? This is not a normal driving condition, unless you never change tires, and always call for help. Why don't you take the bumpers off as well, I mean, you don't REALLY need them, unless something happens... It really makes sense to drive the car as it comes from the factory. Many new cars DON'T have a spare out the dealership, and if that is the case, then NP, but I would normally drive with a spare, it just makes logical sense.
You can't rag on the cars too much or they'll stop giving you press cars. Aside from Tesla which doesn't do press cars hence why reviews of their cars tend to be on average more truthful.
Now do a range test over I70 to Grand Junction in 20 degee weather. You know, not on basically flat roads in cool but not cold weather. Pretty sure it won't make it there.
Why? To prove that EV's aren't for everyone? K... so now what... Duallys aren't for everyone, they make and sell them. Miatas aren't for everyone, they make and sell them. Poor guy...has to deal with someone else driving a vehicle that doesn't work for him, so it's bad. I actually feel bad for the anti EV crowd, they are worse than the anti ICE crowd.
Isn’t the upcoming Sierra ATV4 EV the best of both worlds? Off road prowess, more range, onboard power? Gotta be $20K less? Tough waiting for all of this PR to be attainable. The longer people wait, the better other options get. Hybrid trucks still the best. 700 mi range, onboard power…. Eventually EV trucks will be 600 mi range and 10 mins charge time
I don't need 600 Kilometers range, what should i do 12 hours on the road without pause? I could nearly reach Castle bran from Vlad the Impaler. Rome is a bit outside of the scope @ 1035 km. What about Berlin? Too short. Warszawa? Too short. Now i know, one trip to the Casinos in Monaco! Hilarious, 600 miles. You are CRAZY!!!
Hello, I am looking to purchase a Hummer pick up truck a 3X. Want to have your advice on should I wait till the 2025s come out with the newer style cable attachment (Tesla style) or go with a 2024 with the CCS and have a adapter with you?
Looks like for every 100 miles of highway driving, you need 1 hour of charging. So on a long distance trip, drive for 2 hours the charge for 2 hours. Unless, you have to wait in line to charge. Would hate to be 18th in line. The vehicle and batteries are new. Your performance will only go down from here. Batteries don't last forever and degrade slowly at first, then more rapidly ten years from now. Will cost a fortune to replace those batteries. This is no way a cost effective and practical vehicle. Just a rich mans toy.
Gm is likely selling the hummer as a break even or total loss as a halo car. I’m sure they’ll eventually raise prices or have some economies of scale to make it profitable. It’s likely just a test model. No one can actually buy them atm.
It's just so big and heavy.....bruh it's 9,000 POUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there's bridges and roads you can't driver that heffer over. And you should have left it at 69 you blew it!
And the cost/ life of the replacement battery? The push for ev is not realistic , especially when there's other options and considering where the materials for the batteries come from.
@@HondaRidea I thought that too a week ago. After closer inspection, they're closer to a quarter of a million dollars now. (Because of the scarcity. Craziness.)
Top Speed is 105MPH. Which is incredibly low, even for such a large vehicle. I mean at least make it 120MPH so that your highway cruising speed of 80-85MPH isn't nearly maxing out your over priced EUV. I heard the top speed is set so low because of the tremendous 9,000 lbs. weight and limiting the speed to prevent tire blow out. So perhaps with better tire compound that can increase? I am sure it has the capability to go faster. Just a matter of software update or a hack.
Most vehicles have a speed governor set to whatever the factory tires speed ratings are. Off road and/or truck tires typically don't have high speed ratings. Most trucks I have driven have all had governors that limit top speed somewhere around 85-95 MPH depending on tires. My Duramax (Silverado 2500) governor was factory set at 95MPH and my Chevy Kodiak 5500 was factory set to 85 MPH. My Jeep Grand Cherokee (5.7L Hemi V8) was limited to 106 MPH if I recall.
I Am Good used to have H-2 Hummer I Still prefer ⛽️Gas I don't trust electric Way I look at it Just in Case When Something Goes wrong it Will Cost a lot of Money to get it fixed.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 lol ya for sure... I was thinking in the perspective of a customers out of pocket expenses if they have to replace a 200kw battery. Thats like 40-50k
@@peterchon1179 Yes, a big pile of lithium for a big pile of bucks. Every two years? Maybe three? But you must see it that way, either you have it - then you buy Government Motors or you don‘t. Those who don‘t buy Teslas…
So around 250 miles at only 70 mph is your range SOC 20 % or less before any reasonable person starts looking for a charge. Same with a ICE car you get under a 1/4 tank you typically will fill up. Your test should have been realistic. That is to say, min mostly 80-85 as theses are normal posted speeds in many states and 18 wheelers will be going that fast . I'll bet you get 100-150 miles before you get to 20%soc and then is when most will start looking for a Charge station. That is about 2 hours of drive time.
What's really funny is the H2 gas guzzler was purchased by people on 1099 as a commercial vehicle and got tax credit because of its weight. The H2 is one reason the GM EV was killed off.
What you hear is not wind noise but the electrons being sucked out of the battery.
😂
Picked up an Edition One last week with only 5k miles on it for $95k.. absolutely love this thing, it turns heads like nothing else too.
Cybertruck turns way more heads
@@InSaN3ViSioN It actually doesn’t, but it does have a lot more people saying it’s bloody ugly whereas the reception to the Hummer is overwhelmingly positive.
I guess they nailed the "hummer" spirit, gluttony as a sin embodied! 😂
Such a huge battery and only 300-ish miles. 🤦♀️
The large wheels and off-road tires are a large contributor to that.
The drag due to wind eliminates not in a loop because the drag is non linear! This applies also to velocity differences. If you go faster to compensate for a lower speed in order to keep a certain average speed it will not work that way. Because of the non linearity!! Keep that in mind!
it would be interesting to see what kind of efficiency (and acceleration) you can get on road tires
I've got a Ed1 I put the 22" OEM rims on a more road oriented Wrangler AT and I'm getting close to 380 miles at 70mph at about 72F and no wind. Instrumented acceleration in WTF is 3.05sec to 60.
While I love my F150 Lightning there are some things I'd like to see. One would also be handy on a Rivian or even a Hummer EV, the "eco" mode option that would say switch to 2-wheel drive instead of all 4 (so, in Ford's case only powering 1 motor instead of 2), but it could use the non-propelling motor to regenerate while braking. I think that could really extend range in situations when one isn't towing/hauling or driving for sport performance or off-roading.
I would have left the spare in , it probably only makes a small difference, but still you test it as you would normally drive it .
It would be interesting with all season or less aggressive tires at 70mph.
Looking at Tire Rack they do not carry a single option in the factory size (305/55-22). Not sure when more options will be available since I’m sure no other vehicle uses such a ludicrous fitment.
@@KyleBrightman You will have to wait for the Silverado EV.
Love these straightforward reviews.
In the UK Instavolt uses the same chargers. Even those rated for 50kw rarely reach their potential. The 350s are much better but the 50 and 150s aren’t great. We have to pay 79p per kW for the privilege of using them, meaning that even a small battery will cost as much as an ICE for a full charge.
318.3 miles / 213.3 kWh = 1.49 mi/kWh
Not sure why the display rounds this down to 1.4 mi/kWh. It's really closer to 1.5
Last digit you mentioned probably is hidden by programming because no one ever really will need it except you 😂 so it shows only the digits before that. Doesn't matter if it closer to next one or the previous, it's about programming :)
3x range is listed as 381 though. Does this mean the 3x would use the power more efficiently than a 2x by distributing the power to 3 motors instead of 2??
Love this review, definitely would love to see a test with road tires
I like the big Bolt layout. Push button start no pop out door handles and the Regen paddle. Plus it has the same turn circle SUV=EV, Pickup=EUV.
Really enjoy your Hummer vids, still going to stay with my H2
What an absurd vehicle with actually pretty solid range
Wonder how it performs out in 20 degree weather. Heat going
Its just a matter of time before Kyle has one of these Beef machines in his driveway permanently.
He’s already said that he Loves the Hummer.
714 Wh/mi! I don’t know whether to 😆 or 😭.
Exactly, insanely inefficient. Will be over $100 to charge to go $300 miles.
It’s horrible
Better than the Semi. Well done. IMHO.
@@Discoducky73 My home energy is $0.12 per kwh, so 220kwh would be 27 bucks. Fast chargers are expensive for sure, but even then it's usually under $0.40 which would make it 88 bucks. If you compare to a 12mpg H2 then to go 300miles would be takes 25 gallons of fuel which at 4 bucks a gallon is 100 bucks . . .
All that though, and I doubt anyone buying a Hummer is caring about the efficiency and savings on milage.
@@Snerdles Did you watch Kyle's video about charging the Hummer? You might be surprised!
My 3800 pound 2018 Tesla Model 3 probably gets appox 3 miles/KWH at 70MPH, so for a 9000 pound not very aerodynamic vehicle 1.4 miles/KWH is fairly impressive. Next time you might want to mirror your range test with your 2019 Model 3. Great video thanks!
and the hummer EV has ALL TERRAIN tires on it.. that's killing range
I'm guess about 60% of the cost is battery pack.
It's a lot less than that, probably around 25k for the pack, so less than 25%.
So, about 310 miles at 70 mph? If it can't maintain 70 mph, then the 70 mph range test is done... also, if cruise control shuts off at 5%, then my goal would be to never go below 5%... so when cruise shut off you were at 307 miles, so real world you have an effective 70 mph range of 305 miles.
"The non-Tesla DC fast-charging network is a mishmash of crud. If you want to take an EV road trip, it's easy in a Tesla and dicey in anything else." -Ezra Dyer (C&D Sep '22)
As of Jan 24, GMC vehicles including the Hummer now have access to the Tesla supercharger network too ❤
@@Libertas_P77 Some of the Supercharging network. Only level 3 chargers. About half. :)
@@tdpiersonavoca I don’t see why they would only be limited to the new L3 chargers but fair enough. I’ve learned as an EV and petrol household for the last half decade to use them based on their strengths. And for roadtrips, petrol is just a lot better, even with the supercharger network. I’m hoping for a major battery technology breakthrough, we need one for BEV’s to achieve their potential.
😢😢😢😢😢
Can’t afford it but if I could I would get a Chevy EV pickup! It has a 450 mile range.
I’ve got a question I was in the market for the Hummer EV I see they’re still doing reviews on the vehicle but I also know there’s a recall your honest opinion is it worth the risk of buying the vehicle.
I still cant get past this vehicle weighing over 9000 pounds. And can do 0-60 in around 3.5 seconds. Like WTF. This is one of the vehicles you see and just pray they dont hit you.
3000 pounds is just battery weight.
10:02 We are going to go automatic at 68 degrees"....1 second later moves it to 70 😂
I think they’re very nice looking. Not super practical for a daily but if you have a big family and need to tow a boat or trailer this should be nice for that
LOL @ no spare tire. What will you do if you get a flat ? This is not a normal driving condition, unless you never change tires, and always call for help. Why don't you take the bumpers off as well, I mean, you don't REALLY need them, unless something happens... It really makes sense to drive the car as it comes from the factory. Many new cars DON'T have a spare out the dealership, and if that is the case, then NP, but I would normally drive with a spare, it just makes logical sense.
Can’t wait for you to get your hands on the new GMC truck.
Why? It’s the same as this and the SilveradoEV
“Never met an EV he didn’t like: Kyle Connor” 😊
😅😅
You can't rag on the cars too much or they'll stop giving you press cars. Aside from Tesla which doesn't do press cars hence why reviews of their cars tend to be on average more truthful.
Can we transplant this battery into my bolt?
Its easier to transplant the bolt inside the battery...
Kyle you should actuallly do the range test again with different tires. I am curious the difference.
Good sample. Looks like GMC was not embellishing when it states a 314 mile range.
18% tint is a must for that suv.daytime riding lights should be on. Your properly using more power just to keep the car at 66 degrees
Now do a range test over I70 to Grand Junction in 20 degee weather. You know, not on basically flat roads in cool but not cold weather. Pretty sure it won't make it there.
Why? To prove that EV's aren't for everyone? K... so now what... Duallys aren't for everyone, they make and sell them. Miatas aren't for everyone, they make and sell them. Poor guy...has to deal with someone else driving a vehicle that doesn't work for him, so it's bad. I actually feel bad for the anti EV crowd, they are worse than the anti ICE crowd.
New chargers going in at the electrify America in salt lake City yay!
I’m loving the tech but not the cost to replace that battery pack
Not sure I'm reading screen correctly, it is showing 28 hours and 4 min. to fully recharge?
could you imagine how far an iX would get with the same size packs?
Better yet, an EQS/EQXX 🤯
Would also like to test with a cover on the bed. I hope to do this soon.
it doesnt have more than 212 usable.. its consuming your regen...
How many coal fire power plants does it take to keep the Hummer EV charged?
Depends on the grid you're connected to... in my state, 33% of the grid power comes from wind energy.
@@mowcowbell So is that 33% needed for the Hummer 😂
@@trmon8890 almost 200lb of coal. But of course there’s natural gas and other ways to generate electricity. Need to figure out nuclear.
In my case, none. A few solar panels on the roof take care of this and more.
Isn’t the upcoming Sierra ATV4 EV the best of both worlds? Off road prowess, more range, onboard power? Gotta be $20K less? Tough waiting for all of this PR to be attainable. The longer people wait, the better other options get.
Hybrid trucks still the best. 700 mi range, onboard power…. Eventually EV trucks will be 600 mi range and 10 mins charge time
I don't need 600 Kilometers range, what should i do 12 hours on the road without pause?
I could nearly reach Castle bran from Vlad the Impaler.
Rome is a bit outside of the scope @ 1035 km.
What about Berlin? Too short. Warszawa? Too short.
Now i know, one trip to the Casinos in Monaco!
Hilarious, 600 miles. You are CRAZY!!!
I would love to see e-gas trucks, a BEV but with a small ICE generator on board. Basically a more efficient version of a plug in electric
Hello, I am looking to purchase a Hummer pick up truck a 3X. Want to have your advice on should I wait till the 2025s come out with the newer style cable attachment (Tesla style) or go with a 2024 with the CCS and have a adapter with you?
How is 218 miles tested range 'very close' to the EPA range of 329?
Hummer it's about everything military not for ordinary eco friendly. It's about power 🔋 off road capability and dominance.
Now I kind of want to see a Hummer EV hypermile test. Lol
you said 218 miles it got? also it has MT tires not AT tires right?
444 Wh/km and 512 km?
about 250Kw battery pack, "fast charging" took over two hours.
@@buddy1155 About the size the Volvo trucks have around here. But they have 27 tons.
Looks like for every 100 miles of highway driving, you need 1 hour of charging. So on a long distance trip, drive for 2 hours the charge for 2 hours. Unless, you have to wait in line to charge. Would hate to be 18th in line. The vehicle and batteries are new. Your performance will only go down from here. Batteries don't last forever and degrade slowly at first, then more rapidly ten years from now. Will cost a fortune to replace those batteries. This is no way a cost effective and practical vehicle. Just a rich mans toy.
You just showed the world that you have no idea what you're talking about 😂
You just showed the world that you have no idea what you're talking about 😂
You gotta do a test towing something
Kung and go is crazy
Weight : $
That's an interesting metric to go off of, haha
So this could be a nice road trip vehicle as long as there are enough superchargers on the route.
As long as you're not towing your 27ft wake boat out of your valley to the lake.
Can’t wait for Kyle to inevitably lose power 15 miles away from Kum&Go.
is regen paddle emergency brake ? 'i'm confused ?
No cameras and radar for the super cruise? Odd.
Excellent video
Do they offer a long range edition? ;-)
The EV3X Trim without the Extreme-Off-Road Package.
Yay 2WD please!
Damn. So with an efficiency of .9-1miles/kW its pretty close to my Bolt in range.
Gm is likely selling the hummer as a break even or total loss as a halo car. I’m sure they’ll eventually raise prices or have some economies of scale to make it profitable. It’s likely just a test model. No one can actually buy them atm.
How many hrs u gotta charge the 🔋
Is the 70 mph GPS?
My Dream car...
It's just so big and heavy.....bruh it's 9,000 POUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there's bridges and roads you can't driver that heffer over. And you should have left it at 69 you blew it!
Wow, thats one thirsty beast. I'm all for BEV, but this is not its space. Makes little sense. A great science experiment though.
this is why legacy auto will go out of business. making 12 hummers a day? i mean come on
1.4? Those mud tires offer less efficiency than a Lightning towing a 6000lb travel trailer.
Does that say “Kum & Go”? 😂
It did say "Kum and Go." It might feel even better if it said "Cum and Go." 😊😊
What if you tow max weight
Kyle, it's a pig and waste of space, but I'd love one-----well done as usual.
An LT4 would make this a good vehicle
You have such high regen so you probably got 1KWH from the regen
Long range and very fast charging. Hmmm... You have found your new Cannonball vehicle, huh?
It takes almost 3 hours to recharge on a fast charger (according to Kyle's test) from 0% to 100%
@@zachlafond2652 I was poking fun at the total lack of context to all the hyperbole.
It's great unless you have to pay for it.
Hasta la vista, baby 👍
Now stand there for 4 hours charging...
And the milage is given by empty truck😅
$108K Holy crap. That is stupid expensive for a vehicle that is more or less useless.
And the cost/ life of the replacement battery? The push for ev is not realistic , especially when there's other options and considering where the materials for the batteries come from.
Risk it for the biscuit🥖
Surprise long lange >300 miles. Better than Rivian and Ford F150 Lightning
there's a button to push all windows down, automatic
I would be ran over if I tried to do only 70 mph on the highway where I live
Should be EV charging overnight... It's cheaper than at daytime..
So essentially, you can get an EV, but for long trips have a gas powered vehicle, because charging stations all suck, and there’s not enough of them?
Is white the only color option for this thing? That's the only color I've ever seen.. ever. Where are the other colors? White is a snore.
ev charging is becoming as costly as gasoline... range anxiety is a killer.
783 of these on the road? 😆 So, they are quite rare.
For a $100,000 + vehicle
@@HondaRidea I thought that too a week ago. After closer inspection, they're closer to a quarter of a million dollars now. (Because of the scarcity. Craziness.)
They’re only going to build as many as they can sell, the 1% can afford it
Alors....! Combien de kms réaliser avec une seule charge....? 🤔🤨🤔🤨
500
So Charge an hour to drive 2 hours? Yikes!!
Top Speed is 105MPH. Which is incredibly low, even for such a large vehicle. I mean at least make it 120MPH so that your highway cruising speed of 80-85MPH isn't nearly maxing out your over priced EUV. I heard the top speed is set so low because of the tremendous 9,000 lbs. weight and limiting the speed to prevent tire blow out. So perhaps with better tire compound that can increase? I am sure it has the capability to go faster. Just a matter of software update or a hack.
Most vehicles have a speed governor set to whatever the factory tires speed ratings are. Off road and/or truck tires typically don't have high speed ratings. Most trucks I have driven have all had governors that limit top speed somewhere around 85-95 MPH depending on tires. My Duramax (Silverado 2500) governor was factory set at 95MPH and my Chevy Kodiak 5500 was factory set to 85 MPH. My Jeep Grand Cherokee (5.7L Hemi V8) was limited to 106 MPH if I recall.
you would have to add an axle
My 2022 RAM 1500 is governed at 105 mph as well
I Am Good used to have H-2 Hummer I Still prefer ⛽️Gas I don't trust electric Way I look at it Just in Case When Something Goes wrong it Will Cost a lot of Money to get it fixed.
318 miles on 213 kwh? That mileage is atrocious. Utterly ridiculous.
That’s gonna be a no for me dawg
can you imagine having to replace this battery? GM must be losing a ton of money on this car
Its better than the Bolt. Imagine having to change ALL batteries...
@@wolfgangpreier9160 lol ya for sure... I was thinking in the perspective of a customers out of pocket expenses if they have to replace a 200kw battery. Thats like 40-50k
@@peterchon1179 Yes, a big pile of lithium for a big pile of bucks. Every two years? Maybe three? But you must see it that way, either you have it - then you buy Government Motors or you don‘t. Those who don‘t buy Teslas…
This thing uses more than THREE TIMES the electricity my Bolt does...
What’s the name of that crappy charger? I’ll avoid it.
after the weight to dollar ratio I just couldn't watch the rest of this video. Normalizing 100k plus vehicles
So around 250 miles at only 70 mph is your range SOC 20 % or less before any reasonable person starts looking for a charge. Same with a ICE car you get under a 1/4 tank you typically will fill up. Your test should have been realistic. That is to say, min mostly 80-85 as theses are normal posted speeds in many states and 18 wheelers will be going that fast . I'll bet you get 100-150 miles before you get to 20%soc and then is when most will start looking for a Charge station. That is about 2 hours of drive time.
Hope there is no government incentives for buying such ineffective vehicles.
What's really funny is the H2 gas guzzler was purchased by people on 1099 as a commercial vehicle and got tax credit because of its weight. The H2 is one reason the GM EV was killed off.