The DP DLX has a reversed paint scheme to distinguish it as a prop replica and not a screen used prop because replicas of this detail and finish did not widely exist at the time (1996) and it could easily have been represented as one if painted correctly. Also, although the DP DLX was cast from molds made from original props, it is commonly believed that only the face mask is cast from an ESB helmet and that the dome is cast from a ROTJ helmet.
I discuss what you mentioned about the paint job in my DP Deluxe video (I have another video just focusing on that) but all I could find was that such an explanation was a rumor and was unable to confirm it. As for the face mask and helmet, the more time passes, the more I agree with that assessment. I used to think that was "crazy talk" but the more I look, the more that dome does appear to be from ROTJ. Good catch! Thank you. I am by no means an "expert" so I truly do appreciate any input and feedback on these items.
This is pretty cool, I worked for Rubies costumes and we (the company) sold the Darth Vader helmet that also came from those molds with the offset symmetry. I own one! when you look at the helmet straight on you can see how slanted it is. Rubies also sold a deluxe helmet with perfect symmetry which was more for display than anything, it was made thicker also in fiberglass and polished up just the way it looked in Return of the Jedi which made it look beautiful! Great video!
That's pretty cool! One of the items that I have been wanting for awhile is a nice Boba helmet. I haven't really had the opportunity to sit and research which one is considered the "best" as far a size and screen accuracy. I remember trying on the Don Post Deluxe Boba in the late 90s and while it is a cool "looking" mask it was very claustrophobic to wear (unlike the Vader or the Stormtrooper helmet). It was so tight fitting that I had to turn my head sideways to get it past my nose and then the "glass" from the visor sat on the highest(and most annoying) part of the nose. So much so that I would think just bumping into something would break your nose (so props to Jeremy Bulloch if that is what he had to contend with during filming). Granted, I don't really collect them for "wearing" or "cosplay" (that's not really my thing) but it was an interesting observation that I haven't forgotten. If given the choice, of course, I would love to have a Don Post Deluxe Boba but outside of that, I don't know who or what version is considered the definitive one to own. One of these days...
@@ALongTimeAgoCollectibles when you do get one it will have a presence where ever you put it. My Darth Vader sits on top of a bookshelf which forces you to look up at it which is the way it should be, I think. I also have a Jango Fett helmet which is very cool, it's pretty much the Boba helmet but without all the dings and a different color.
@@SlappedBrain I will be doing a video on how I plan to display my EFX Vader (along with another helmet here soon) and I think you will probably like it. I don’t really display much of my collection (just a few select pieces) but these are going to be setup cool enough that I have to do it.
I owned one of these, I was t impressed as I was born 1972 and pretty much owned all available Vader and TK lids even buying direct from Folano. I have the the DP deluxe and CA, the VA isn’t that much different from a distance but close is just a plastic lid, and you are lucky if you do not get a neck flair, I hunted for years and got mine for nostalgia as it is DP I do have the illusive originals full reveal Vader . The face plate is the Jedi, the dome is Jedi, but all from the reveal mask. As a caster now, to same so,etimg comes from the original moulds means nothing as curing, warping, shrink all makes the piece unique. I can show you 2 pieces cast in different rubber and if wanted and demoulder early or late will look completely different. The only constant, possibly is vac, but always remember you are taking a cast, from a cast of the original. So to concise, Gino got as close as he did but this is NOT a direct cast from the original moulds!
The only point of your statement that I would argue against is the part where you indicate that, "...it means nothing" to say something came from the original mold (as mentioned the molds for these were cast from the original screen used helmet as it is unknown what happened to the actual original molds). While your point is certainly valid for nuance and particular detail; I would argue that using the original mold does provide an accurate scale of the screen used helmet. For example, take a look at "The Black Series" Vader helmet. The dome/helmet on that thing is terrible. Nowhere near screen accurate. I don't follow all of these makers but I have seen other helmets where the scale is off as well. So while some may have neck flare, or slight warping, the size and scale (which is arguably what really gives the helmet its authentic look ) is proportional to the movie prop. And speaking of proportions, I would also argue (to a lesser extent) that being cast from the same mold also allows for the starting cast to have those correct proportions (rather than someone's guess or estimate). While it is true that these will have some variation based on the pull with warping here and there, the quality and value comes from a particular shops ability to minimize these defects. Some do a better job than others. It's similar to a baking contest where all the ingredients are right but some items are slightly more cooked than others, maybe some browning on the edges, etc. The focus shouldn't be on the defect (because they are given to take place) but on how well the company executes the final product by minimizing variations. Again, I don't work in the field and I am not a professional when it comes to making these things. That being said, I do have an analytical brain and can see value in these being cast from the same mold as an original (or in this case, an original vintage mold which utilized the screen used helmet to create a negative).
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The DP DLX has a reversed paint scheme to distinguish it as a prop replica and not a screen used prop because replicas of this detail and finish did not widely exist at the time (1996) and it could easily have been represented as one if painted correctly.
Also, although the DP DLX was cast from molds made from original props, it is commonly believed that only the face mask is cast from an ESB helmet and that the dome is cast from a ROTJ helmet.
I discuss what you mentioned about the paint job in my DP Deluxe video (I have another video just focusing on that) but all I could find was that such an explanation was a rumor and was unable to confirm it. As for the face mask and helmet, the more time passes, the more I agree with that assessment. I used to think that was "crazy talk" but the more I look, the more that dome does appear to be from ROTJ. Good catch! Thank you. I am by no means an "expert" so I truly do appreciate any input and feedback on these items.
I just ordered the EFX from Sideshow last night. Will be my first Vader helmet
That's a good one! You are going to love it!
This is pretty cool, I worked for Rubies costumes and we (the company) sold the Darth Vader helmet that also came from those molds with the offset symmetry. I own one! when you look at the helmet straight on you can see how slanted it is. Rubies also sold a deluxe helmet with perfect symmetry which was more for display than anything, it was made thicker also in fiberglass and polished up just the way it looked in Return of the Jedi which made it look beautiful! Great video!
That's pretty cool! One of the items that I have been wanting for awhile is a nice Boba helmet. I haven't really had the opportunity to sit and research which one is considered the "best" as far a size and screen accuracy. I remember trying on the Don Post Deluxe Boba in the late 90s and while it is a cool "looking" mask it was very claustrophobic to wear (unlike the Vader or the Stormtrooper helmet). It was so tight fitting that I had to turn my head sideways to get it past my nose and then the "glass" from the visor sat on the highest(and most annoying) part of the nose. So much so that I would think just bumping into something would break your nose (so props to Jeremy Bulloch if that is what he had to contend with during filming). Granted, I don't really collect them for "wearing" or "cosplay" (that's not really my thing) but it was an interesting observation that I haven't forgotten. If given the choice, of course, I would love to have a Don Post Deluxe Boba but outside of that, I don't know who or what version is considered the definitive one to own. One of these days...
@@ALongTimeAgoCollectibles when you do get one it will have a presence where ever you put it. My Darth Vader sits on top of a bookshelf which forces you to look up at it which is the way it should be, I think. I also have a Jango Fett helmet which is very cool, it's pretty much the Boba helmet but without all the dings and a different color.
@@SlappedBrain I will be doing a video on how I plan to display my EFX Vader (along with another helmet here soon) and I think you will probably like it. I don’t really display much of my collection (just a few select pieces) but these are going to be setup cool enough that I have to do it.
I owned one of these, I was t impressed as I was born 1972 and pretty much owned all available Vader and TK lids even buying direct from Folano.
I have the the DP deluxe and CA, the VA isn’t that much different from a distance but close is just a plastic lid, and you are lucky if you do not get a neck flair, I hunted for years and got mine for nostalgia as it is DP
I do have the illusive originals full reveal Vader . The face plate is the Jedi, the dome is Jedi, but all from the reveal mask.
As a caster now, to same so,etimg comes from the original moulds means nothing as curing, warping, shrink all makes the piece unique. I can show you 2 pieces cast in different rubber and if wanted and demoulder early or late will look completely different.
The only constant, possibly is vac, but always remember you are taking a cast, from a cast of the original.
So to concise, Gino got as close as he did but this is NOT a direct cast from the original moulds!
The only point of your statement that I would argue against is the part where you indicate that, "...it means nothing" to say something came from the original mold (as mentioned the molds for these were cast from the original screen used helmet as it is unknown what happened to the actual original molds). While your point is certainly valid for nuance and particular detail; I would argue that using the original mold does provide an accurate scale of the screen used helmet. For example, take a look at "The Black Series" Vader helmet. The dome/helmet on that thing is terrible. Nowhere near screen accurate. I don't follow all of these makers but I have seen other helmets where the scale is off as well. So while some may have neck flare, or slight warping, the size and scale (which is arguably what really gives the helmet its authentic look ) is proportional to the movie prop.
And speaking of proportions, I would also argue (to a lesser extent) that being cast from the same mold also allows for the starting cast to have those correct proportions (rather than someone's guess or estimate). While it is true that these will have some variation based on the pull with warping here and there, the quality and value comes from a particular shops ability to minimize these defects. Some do a better job than others. It's similar to a baking contest where all the ingredients are right but some items are slightly more cooked than others, maybe some browning on the edges, etc. The focus shouldn't be on the defect (because they are given to take place) but on how well the company executes the final product by minimizing variations. Again, I don't work in the field and I am not a professional when it comes to making these things. That being said, I do have an analytical brain and can see value in these being cast from the same mold as an original (or in this case, an original vintage mold which utilized the screen used helmet to create a negative).