What topic should I cover next?! Sorry the video coloring got a little weird on the second half of the video (I was trying to go for a good/evil look with the backgrounds but instead ended up looking like a ghost in the second half of the video, lol!)
I think you should look at predatory marketing in the gambling scene and predatory "freemium" games that are basically just scams. This stuff is increasingly popular and being marketed to young people and its super messed up tbh
-- Video essayist vs debate bros -- Treatment of women or marginalized creators on RUclips -- evolution of types of content on YT vs Twitch vs TikTok -- which is more toxic: Tiktok or Twitter?
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Love your channel and your content! I always get nervous seeing creepshow stuff pop up on m feed but I am so glad I watched this. You did a really great job. This was a thorough and well researched recounting! One thing that I find myself having to correct a lot is that Anthony did NOT know where I worked (around 1:35:00) He knew the *type* of restaurant I worked at (I told him “I’m still working at that sushi place” but purposefully kept it vague to avoid a digital trace of my workplace), but I never publicly shared my exact place of work nor did I share it with him. Because of this, I believe he impersonated another friend and posted the question, “Does anyone know any good sushi places in (where I lived at the time)?” In order to find the exact location by using the details he had at the time. This is, unfortunately, a good example of Shannon filling in some blanks with blatant lies as well as slightly twisting my words so it seems perfectly believable that she may have a “point” here and this is just me being hyper paranoid. This also happened when she tried to claim the snapchat stories were just an ARG. If you read through the snapchat messages, the other party not only refers to very specific and personal things about me in ADDITION to the ARG a elements, but they also reference being too young to drive so their parents drove them to my city… those Snapchats were sent around the same time I received the Britta Filter messages. It’s just all such a weird coincidence, I personally believe that WAS Shanthony and they were just using that ARG as a vehicle and cover for harassment.
Thank you so much for clarifying and providing further detail! Sorry I was trying to get everything right but there were so many details I knew I’d probably miss something 😕There was a lot to sort through and I often found my head spinning- I can only imagine what you’ve been through over the years. I’m. So. Sorry. For all you’ve experienced. I tried my best to approach from an unbiased place and with every new piece of information my mind was blown that things got exponentially worse. And as a fellow mother I often became emotional when researching because I could see and feel how much you care for your children and your role as a mother, and I relate to that so much- I admire you for how much you fought to protect your children. You’re doing an incredible job 💜
Your story gives me the chills every time… no one should ever have to go through that kinda hell. Thank you again for speaking your truth ❤️ we’re all here for you.
I hope you're doing okay. As someone who doesn't know about any of this, the tale is harrowing and I am so so sorry you had to go through this. Its scary. I can't even say this is a cautionary tale because this is just batshit insane. I'm glad you've come out of this and wish you success
Her cancellation was probably one of the few true cancellations. Most people are “cancelled” and can bounce back but Creepshow was truly just eliminated and she needed to be. People like her do not deserve a platform.
Even from distancing yourself from the victims, Shannon's life from now on is just.. upsetting. She's married to a guy whom is obsessed with his ex, and partially wrapped HER into this, her name is tarnished, her family life is strained, there's certainly no money streaming in, lost all friends, been publically humilated, probably has her own hateful stalkers in return, she's literally all alone.
@@seraphim108 to play devils advocate : Even murderers and child molesters have friends. Unfortunately evil attracts evil. May not be a positive choice of people to surround yourself with. But at the end of the day,maybe not on social media, she will be back. Somewhere.
@@TannerisSmol97 i would agree if it was any other youtuber but i can say for sure she's not bouncing back lmao. Even if she has some fans left all of her creator besties turned their backs completely on her, which is pretty important to mantain an audience imo. And tbh even if she tries to come back i think she's just gonna be bullied into oblivion, she doesn't have the power of someone like james charles
I can’t imagine marrying a guy who is staking his ex and trying to get me involved to the point i end up taking over. Her Self esteem is lower than hell. I’m sure the hate towards Emily was rooted by her husband’s obsession with his ex and not her. This is humiliating in every way possible.
Absolutely. My sister's ex from high school (which she has the unfortunate task of co-parenting with) is a lunatic, every girlfriend and SO that he has had since she got away from him has looked like she does, has the same hobbies/interests. These assholes constantly compare their current relations with their obsession. Abusers suck.
Not to mention, how she disgraced her sister.. someone whom she's had all her life. Even with abusive family, typically, you can always go back to them, (or at least one family memeber) I'm typically not that big on the "but they're your family!!!" train. But wow. I wonder what even pushed her to that point.
Not to mention she was a teen and he was in his 20s when they met. I don't doubt Emily's theory that he started, Creepshow happily followed and he settled for just manipulating her. And like Creepshow said HER stalker did, she would harass Emily as a a messed up stress relief
Bro you are a great friend I can't believe I used to be a Shannon Stan sometimes people support shit they shouldn't be supporting without realizing just because they admired a creator. I hope you guys are way better now
No matter how many videos I watch on this situation, it still boggles my mind that anyone can be this unhinged. I honestly hope she receives the help she so desperately needs
Very true, it is clear Shannon is struggling with something and I hope she is able to get help and grow as a person because that’s all any of us can ever really do in life. She has caused a lot of pain, and I hope she’s able to make amends one day
@@angelac5954 you are a perfect example of a therapist who doesn’t have a firm knowledge and understanding of personality disorders. Therapists don’t know everything and don’t specialize in everything
Not sure if it’s mentioned but I think it’s worth remembering. In Shannon’s video she shows screen shots from Emily’s old Facebook, from 10/11 years ago. But in the screenshots, under the comments it says ‘8 years ago’. She’s had those screenshots for at LEAST 2 OR 3 YEARs before Emily even made her first video.
@@ShortStuffMegs21 a streamer was looking into the evidence in her script for her comeback video against Emily with his friend and his friend noticed it if I'm not wrong !
Regarding Peaches' mental health: Even if someone is "faking it for attention", the fact that they feel the need to do that is still probably a sign of a mental health at, at the very least, a moment when they actually do need social support.
Yes, faking a mental illness is itself a sign of mental illness, maybe not the one they’re faking but clearly that person should reach out to a counselor for some support. Reaching out when you’re struggling is so important, and not everyone presents the same way when they’re in a hard place.
Yes. Like attention seeking isn’t always bad. Everyone needs attention and to feel like they’re heard. And sometimes people want attention just simply because it makes them feel something or better for a bit.
Whenever I hear someone say that somebody faked a mental illness for attention I roll my eyes. That’s literally a sign that they’re mentally ill and needing help. As a kid I would pretend to fake die online, and a year later I had tried to kill myself. If ppl stop taking that cry for attention as attention seeking then maybe more lives taken by suicide would still be alive.
Imagine stealing sexual images someone took of themselves as a mentally ill teenager and threatening to release them because you think it makes *them* look bad. How awful
Imagine not realizing having that Facebook account means you are in fact in possession of CP 🤦♀️ so it’s not a crazy accusation Emily being 16-17 is still a child. (I know this is old now but I had to, I got here from the new illuminaughii drama 😅 I still can’t believe this whole situation actually happened)
The reason Shannon fixated on Emily’s sobriety dates was to prove Emily was sober on the date Anthony allegedly SA’d her. As though someone can’t SA you when you’re sober. It was a moot point.
It's kinda "scary" because she is so self aware of who and how she is that she has always done stuff like that (like how she admits how she's a terrible liar, yet she still lies). She knows, but she continues.
@@JillCheese Yes, that was surprising to hear. To have some degree of self-awareness, but to continue down that path- I don’t know how that works exactly..?
DUDE ! I have tried so many times to understand.. so many videos sent unfinished. I couldn’t understand what happened, ever lol. I’m so happy to see the comments in here. I wanna be part of this anti-creep show thing everyone else is. I want to hate things too ):
Can we talk about how Shannon/Anthony could theoretically be charged with possession or possibly even distribution of CP????? That has been massively swept under the rug for some reason Edit: I didn’t mean that I was surprised they weren’t arrested. That doesn’t shock me at all. I’m just surprised no one is really talking about it, because if Shannon is willing to go that far, I wonder what else she might have in her possession
TBH prosecutors and the investigators that look into that type of thing have way bigger fish to fry. If this was something they did frequently or were still doing, then yeah. But the likelihood of them being charged with this is slim to none. Perhaps if it had been brought to prosecutor/LE attention back when it was ongoing, but even then it might be more of a harassment/revenge porn deal I say this because an extended relative of mine was arrested and eventually plead guilty to making CP with teens. And even that entailed a multi month police investigation and there were several victims who were still underage at the time of the investigation
that sums up this whole situation: “don’t believe Emily when she says we’re stalking her. she’s a bad person, and we would know because we’ve been tracking her every move for years.” It’s so bad it’s like a punchline. As if the whole thing’s just a game to see how much they can get away with.
sounds familiar 🤷♀️ literaly i cant believe how many people are like this ,how dare you do these things while we been invading your privacy like oh my gawd becky🤢hilarious😄 but laughing at them??oh right nevermind your own bad actions, don't worry what i do n look at u boo!😂😂
The worst part of Shannon's "response" was she claiming that Emily lied about her abuses because no one gets to be abused by so many people when in reality someone who has mental issues or drug problems are more likely to be abused and manipulated and usually are in a cicle of abuse with different people.
Exactly. Once you've been victimised once you are statistically so much more likely to fall into more abusive relationships because these abusers seek this out. It's like they know who to go for. People wouldn't believe me of I told them how many times I'd been victimised by various people in my almost 30 years. But it's true. Once it happens once you're unfortunately at risk for life.
I want to say this carefully, because I genuinely do NOT mean it as victim blaming, but if you are used to cycles of abuse, you are prone to fall into them and accept them because they are familiar. There is a sick comfort in the familiar being less frightening than what you don't know. You have been conditioned to believe you don't deserve better. It takes a lot to mentally break away from that cycle mentally and physically, and it is so easy to fall back into it.
Plus if you've gone through previous abuse or have mental health issues, abusive people can absolutely pick up on that vulnerability and see an opportunity.
What lolcow did with cross referencing Shannon’s IP in those posts was a Work a fucking art, and should forever be memorialized as one of the greatest virtual exposé ever
That was my favorite part of the whole video. They put Shannon on blast! Like, wow actual consequences for breaking the rules, every social media site ever would never!
It's just a beautiful mic drop. I've never dreamed of going on those kinds of sites (Kiwi Farms, Lolcow, 4Chan etc) as they just don't appeal to me. Instances like this though, where someone tries to get clever and gets absolutely smacked down by them is just lovely to see.
Quite a lot of forum sites operate like this actually because they are independently funded and don't have to rely on ads so they can literally do whatever they want.
Reminds me of this dash cam footage I saw a while ago! Guy and his new girlfriend got pulled over & arrested.. cops found missing woman tied up in the back of the car. The kidnapped woman was the guy’s ex girlfriend, who he had been stalking since the breakup. After talking with the victim, they found out that the guy had also gotten his new girlfriend to obsess over & stalk her as well.. going so far as to planning & executing a kidnapping.
I feel like if Shannon splits with her husband in a couple of years, she'll try to come back to YT and say "oh Anthony forced me to stalk Emily. I didn't want to do it!" She's that manipulative.
I know guys like him. They like to pin women against each other for their pleasure. He was feeding her obessession for sure. I SEE him getting away with it a lot. If he would have been q good boyfriend Shannon wouldn't even know about Emily at all. He defenetely fed her crap about Emily.. He's just as bad and manipulative.
If CS sent Emily’s employer pron, that’s considered revenge pron. Then causing her to lose her job and become homeless. I think she has a great case for a lawsuit. Maybe even criminal charges from the revenge pron
Emily does have a solid case, the only problem is if she goes through a lawsuit she is going to have to relive every single traumatic event again. Personally I don’t think it’s worth suing Shannon, I doubt she would be able to pay up the amount Emily will deserve, and having these videos that validate Emily’s struggles helps her whenever a potential employer looks her up.
But I don’t know if she could prove that it was them in a way that is good enough for court. I think her circumstantial evidence is pretty compelling but at the end of the day she can’t prove 100% it was them. Since Emily seems to have sought out professional legal counsel, my guess is that they probably adviced her against it.
I still love how Sh@non thought it would be a good idea to prove she’s not a crazy stalker by…being a crazy stalker and uploading a 2 hour long video of her stalking Emily
i remember when Charlotte Dobre created her youtube channel, Shannon was talking about how much she loved Charlotte and told people to subscribe to her. But around that time Charlotte said she was getting hate messages from someone, and i always wondered if it was Shannon lol
I was a fan of Shannon's for a while especially with her onion boy coverage. When I saw this all unfold I was shocked because Shannon came across as genuine but now we know.
I was for a while but when shes began to just yell or just bring up her homelessness i left.. It was so unnerving and tiring.. Then these thing happened and brought out to light
It's been my core belief for years to always mistrust people who gloat about how "humble" and "kind" they are, especially if they talk in length about examples of them doing good deeds. No one who truly does good for the sake of doing good is going to advertise it to make themselves look better. (The funniest case for me was one of a woman who told me how she used to help out in retirements homes "for free". The way she was boasting about it immediately made me doubt her intentions. I much later heard that it was mandatory community service for lying to police officers on a case)
For me its the fact that shannons entire youtube career only existed because she wanted to invade emilys online space (youtube) and she even became successful at it, only to have the biggest most embarrassing downfall in all of yt BECAUSE of what she did to emily
I think the catalyst was her lolcow leak, even if Emily hadn’t come out against her she would’ve lost a lot. I have to admit, her downfall was long overdue considering how many people she wronged, imagine if she had been exposed in 2018-2019 right when she first gained notoriety.
Bio mutant definitley but imo the emily stuff was unforgivable and her attempt to refute it basically confirmed what emily was alleging in the first place
My favourite part of these videos about Shannon is that Shannon 100% watches every single one of them because she can't help herself. She's proven time and time again that she can't help but engage with criticisms about her but now she can't say anything in response. I just know she watched this whole thing stewing in her anger.
there aren’t words to describe the horror i felt while watching Emily’s video when it first dropped. i was a casual fan of creepshow art, the lolcow posts were nauseating on their own but emily’s video was something else ENTIRELY
I had stopped watching creepshow art for a while before the video dropped. I ended up listing to Emily's whole video. The stuff she did to Emily was so bad. Like im just listening and it's just kept getting worse and worse
Add on a whole other level of crazy after she made her rebuttal video about Emily. I’m not a perfect person but you will never catch me using the walls of someone’s childhood bedroom for an argument.
Same! I didn’t know who Emily was, and was only a casual fan of Shannon (I would turn her videos on when doing the dishes, mostly, for background noise) And when Emily’s videos dropped, my heart SANK. I still can’t imagine what Emily’s gone through, even though I wasn’t all that surprised that Shannon was a stalker because her own stalker Storytimes didn’t seem…authentic. Her wording and much of her storytelling feels like it comes from the perspective of the stalker, not the stalked.
i was a really big fan on shannon and i even tried to be one of her speedart vidoes when she took fan submissions and i remember when the video dropped i was in bed for days because i never thought my fav youtuber would be the most vile person, she needs genuine help, I hope Emily and peaches are recovering well
Oh, I have been completely obsessed with the insanity that is Shannon since this story first broke. I was just making myself a new cup of tea, so I'm going to settle in and get comfortable.
As someone who used to avidly watch Creepshow Art, I saw a lot of red flags in her behaviour, like she came across as the "Mean Girl" that think she's not like "every other girl" and she could get way too raged over the smallest of things. A lot of the stories she told in videos also didn't add up to past stories she'd tell, I never thought she would commit literally crimes, though. I'm hooked.
I'd like to see a video about trauma dumping and the harm it causes on both sides of the spectrum because a lot of content creators face it but are also guilty of it.
What rabbit hole did I fall into? Started with illuminatii/Blair (and learning about this channel from that), to hearing that Blair was the new 'CreepShowArt' and I had to learn what that was about. So now I decided to go through Blair's victims channels and watch a few of their vids. Hope you're doing better!
Same; As someone who doesn't even watch vids from like...ANY of these users...I've never heard of them or their cases. But now I'm just here like "dang, how many people are like this??". The only user I heard of from these so far was Miranda Sings/Colleen, and I only watched supposed collab vids between her and GloZell Green (aka, the only "main" RUclipsr I watch, aside from list vids, shows/movies, and robot combat). RUclips is also the closest I'll get to social media, so I wouldn't know of any posts via Twitter, TikTok, etc. I avoid social platforms like the plague, and people like Blair and Creepshow are darn good reasons for me to continue doing so - aside from possibly super toxic communities within fandoms...
Spite was a large part of it but let’s not forget she’s just the sort who feeds off attention and drama like a vulture. I think she started the account to invade Emily’s space but once she realised she had created a source of attention and praise that became an equal motivation
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART i think it’s funny you’re a fan of her when she herself said “if you’re still a fan of me or defending my actions, don’t. touch grass.” so you’re actively going against shitnon
I remember thinking to myself “how could anyone like her?” The way she talked was just so condescending and rude. I didn’t like her from the minute I watched one of her videos. Idk what it was. But I never subscribed to her. I just knew that she didn’t sound like a very nice person. And I’m glad this all came to light. Really really sad for the people she hurt. I didn’t like her, but couldn’t imagine she was this vile.
Yeah. And I don't think Shannon harassed Emily because she thought Emily was a bad person (due to brainwashing by Anthony). Shannon harassed Emily because of jealousy. Emily dumped Anthony. Anthony didn't want the relationship to end. Shannon later dated Anthony, learned about the super beautiful, fit, and outrageously talented Emily.... and of course... in Scorpio fashion, stalked the hell out of Emily to learn literally everything about her... out of jealous curiosity. Seeing how much better Emily was than Shannon in every possible way.... Shannon's jealousy grew to straight up hateful envy. And so she tormented her. Anthony is also an asshole, though. They tormented her together.
I liked her, but I really only watched her content about people who I already knew were bad people, like Onision. So the attitude didn't bother me since it felt deserved. I also worked in a restaurant, and language like her's was pretty common to me-so I never had and reservations or thought lesser of her just because she was condescending towards obviously crappy people. I rarely watched anything from her where I didn't have tea from another source first, but I did watch the one about Peaches and it had me feeling sus about her. After that I started to pull away from her content since I didn't feel like she was acting in good faith. Hearing how she talked about people like Jacklyn Hill and others is shocking though. It's one thing to be rude to vile people like Onision, and it's another to make that comment about Jacklyn's cult-leader dad and all the other things she was bringing up about many other people.
I agree. The first time I heard about her was through the 'Zeefixesart' situation where one of her art (which was a fanart she made for her fan) was 'fixed' horrendously. I was watching someone else's commentary video that time and they had Shannon's opinion about this whole fiasco, which to be honest, I thought that she's a good person. The way she responded was very mature. I felt bad for her so I decided to check her channel out and maybe subscribe to her to give support. And yeah, I didn't like what I see and heard. Like what you say, her tone was very condescending and sounded quite aggressive towards the person/topic she's talking about, it really gave me a mean girl vibe so in the end I did not subscribe to her.
I used to listen to her in the background of doing a task. When I actually listened to what she said, it most came off as a white savior who spoke in the place of the minorities she was talking about. I just brushed it off mostly, cause I didn't actually pay much attention to it. Though, I stopped watching her when she called out an artist for drawing minors sexually, but put their name in the description. She said it was to "report them and not send harassment", knowing that people would harass the artist and simultaneously give that art more exposure when she thought it was terrible. It really showed her true colors, that she doesn't care for those issues, and more of so just wants a reason to be upset. Like Emily mentioned, Shannon wasn't upset at Emilys horrible actions, she just wanted to pull Emily down.
I appreciate how delicate you are about drug addiction. I'm a recovering addict, and sudden mentions of hard drug usage/ overdose often make me crave opiates again, but the way you mentioned addiction was so tactful, along with the TW for it before. Damn, that's really amazing for a wreck like me.
Stay strong, dude. That may be a sorta canned response , but I’ve been dealing with an opioid habit as well. I just turned 28 , started when I was 22. I’ve been clean almost 2 years now. I know that I sure as hell get cravings still. Just keep reminding yourself that being a little bit bored and blank is better than going back to that stuff.
@@APPEALtoFEAR Seems I never replied to you, but I appreciate ya! It's hard to stay sober, but it's better than the alternative. I spent a lot of time trying to quit only to relapse and somewhat erode what I was trying to build while on a sober stint... I've been fully clean now for over nine months, but I still get major cravings... Still, I'm hanging in there c:
@@HolyGoddessMotherAnne 1. "Acid" and LSD are the same thing , "acid" is just slang for LSD. 2. That is perfectly fine , I consider myself a spiritual person to a certain degree, and when I used drugs like LSD or Mushrooms, it was in an attempt to learn more about myself and/or and the universe. But this is hardly the forum to discuss this. LSD isn't considered anything but a recreational drug in that context, we are discussing addiction and dependance. I understand you don't mean any ill will, but this should be discussed somewhere else.
@@AK-fr5zv Good for you dude. A thing that has helped me steer clear of using is trying to convince myself that cravings are "irrational" if that makes any sense to you. It seems to be helping me alot , but that's the best way that I can describe it.
The most ironic thing about this is that if Shannon hadn't panicked and publicly denied those lolcow posts where hers, it likely would have gotten minimum attention. Lolcow wasn't mainstream knowledge, half the youtubers she gossiped about didn't know it existed. But she panicked and announced it to EVERYONE who followed her.
Or they could’ve built themselves a house so as to no longer be the homeless hobos they bizarrely LOVED to go on at length about every single chance they had!
Honestly, the algorithm recommended Shannon to me back in late 2019/early 2020 and I watched a few videos. It was pretty obvious to me that Shannon was toxic. She went on and on about how awful the person she was talking about was but provided miniscule evidence or points compared to the insults. Maybe I've just known too many people like her but it was clear she was the type of person to shit talk people while claiming the moral high ground. Like maybe the person is bad but she's not talking about them because of that. She's talking about them because they're ate considered an acceptable target of her hatred. That said I never would've imagined it went this far. Like damn toxic gossip is quite a leap from stalking, and that kind of harassment.
I know exactly what you're talking about. I think I watched one, maybe two of her videos and I couldn't get what the hype was, I couldn't watch them all the way through though because she was mean! She wasn't just a commentary channel, she straight up insulted people, and I just can't be around those kinds of people. Then it turned into this and I guess I wasn't surprised, lol.
I remember the day I stoped trusting CSA, and the day I realized that she was more dangerous than a ally It was one of the videos where she would accuse a artist to be R*cist or a Pred*tor. I believe it was the video of a girl that made goth and Lolita style art, tackling DA and SA. I remember she saying she was romanticizing and glorifying ab*se. I look for the artist, saw their work and I instantly realized that it wasn't romantization. It broke me, because it was clear she did no research, and created a whole narrative that putted that very young artist in a negative light, and exposed her to a group that would attack them. It wasn't a mistake, because she never apologized or told her audience to not attack the artist. It was pure malice. From that day forward, I noticed her little slips, and it hurt people supported her, and I would pray for her to stop bringing pain to other like she did. The hopeless peaches drama broke, and her video was proof I should support peaches. The day Shannon was exposed, and the day she lost her career was a relief. The internet was a little safer after that
Same. I watched some of her videos after RUclips recommended me her channel and I saw the pattern immediately. The holier-than-thou attitude, the fake enthusiasm towards other creators, her need of inserting herlself continuously in the "stories" she covered... Yikes. Long story short, I clicked "Don't recommend me this channel" option after a few videos. A couple of months later, Emily's video popped up in my feed and I was like "I knew CSA was troublesome!" before watching it but I wasn't expecting she was so unhinged 😬 Edit: grammar. English is not my ML 😅
I always got a gross feeling whenever she started overly complimenting people and making shoutouts. I couldn't pinpoint it, but I felt so uncomfortable and icky, and like it wasn't genuine. Amazing how intuition picks up on stuff like that!
I knew about everything but the Jaclyn Hill's situation and, as someone who cut all contact with my parents, it's disgusting. You don't choose who gave birth to you or participated, you are not responsible for your parents' actions. I cannot imagine the anger and pain Jaclyn must have feel seeing someone associating her and her estranged cult leader father in a video. I would be so pissed if I was associated to my parents' actions, I didn't have them out of my life for someone on the internet to associate us. There are multiple children of criminals and cults leader out there that already live with the guilt of their parents' crimes (thinking about Jim Jones' sons, for example) He's her bio-father, but he is out of her life and nobody should try to put him back in it , but Shanon didn't care, because she knew by saying Jaclyn name she was going to get more views than if she only talked about a random cult leader.
Exactly. I’m not a fan of Jaclyn or how she’s handled her own situation, but I can’t even imagine digging up a father she’s completely estranged from and holding him up triumphantly as an example of why she’s bad. Aside from being utterly batshit stalking, it doesn’t even make sense.
Personally, I think Shannon became the stalker bc she saw how much damn time her husband was investing in his ex and just became bitter and jumped on board the crazy train.
The thing a lot of people forget is Shannon’s content was going downhill before the controversy. I found Shannon when I was in a though situation and looking up videos on how to safely be homeless and I was a pretty loyal viewer after that but her videos became more repetitive and rambling and when she talked about subjects I actually know about I realised she was missing major details and barely researching. So I had stopped watching months before the controversy.
Yasss! Agree, I noticed that too. Around february 2021 her content was shorter and mostly 80% of every video she was going on and on about unrelated things to the title, and then at the end gave 1 minute of actual topic and content 😂 rubbed me the wrong way. She even once thanked in may or april for 500k subscribers and said that even if its the last time she got so many subs and all will go to sh**t, she is happy😂 she knew before. True creep
Yeah, I was a casual fan on and off, she was in the wheelhouse of other creators/content I enjoyed, but at some point (just like with Onision and some other chanells) I felt weird watching her, like she was bitter or mean, and I started to distance and unsubcribed. I think she's one of the only youtubers I've unsubscribed to more then once? Something about her tone and how she talked about some people didn't feel right.
she made a whole video about my art thief and never spoke or contacted me despite using my art and emails for the video. It actually did a bunch of harm in the end. But I'm not super angry about that being honest. At the time i was just happy someone cared enough to stand up for the little guy, when this news came out I felt nearly betrayed in a way. Thanks for making this video, its always cathartic
I'm so sorry to hear this, you didn't deserve that 😔💔 I hope you've since had mental peace after dealing with her harrrassment and the harm it caused towards you. No one deserves that and I'm happy to see accountability towards these manipulative bullies is happening as a form of closure for you!
God. I still feel terrible about that whole thing and the only thing i did was unsub because i was new to her channel and didn't know what was happening :( I'm glad she's doing better, I really hope that she gets all she deserves and more someday, and is happy.
Kudos for dropping another two hour video less than two weeks after your montrous Paul brothers video! I hope you're taking plenty of breaks and enjoying you, your husband, and the baby.
The situation with hopeless peaches broke my heart. Imagine being in a horrible place only for some idiot to publicly accuse you of lying along with a testimony with an old “friend” encouraging it, I really hope Hopeless peaches is doing better now.
I remember being there for the Peaches drama and having ZERO idea of what was going on. I watched so many videos trying to understand what ANYONE did wrong and just not understanding it. It only made sense when it was revealed that Creepshow likely just smeared her out of sheer pettiness
Yesss I remember last summer when this all came out the first few videos that I saw all used the same thumbnail. They used the same art piece of Shannon it kinda just seemed like they were clipping each other’s thumbnails and trying to upload as soon as possible without much thought in it
I think I’ve only seen 2 others that feature her real pic and not the fan art. If I remember it right it was a commission someone drew for her, who she later tried to say was a scammer or something. Emily was really nice to the artist afterwards offering to finishing paying for what Shannon bounced on.
Heavily edited picture of her 😬, the real her are those pics of her in all black hair and no editing with double chins and all. (I’m a big girl too, not trying to fat shame here, just keeping it real).
It must suck to be married to someone still completely obsessed with his ex and have it wear off on you over a decade. Support your fellow woman and realize if your partner continues to bash his ex then he was most likely a bigger problem/abuser/asshole in that past relationship. My heart goes out to all of her victims. This is some seriously insane shit she had “allegedly” done. I hope she and her husband get the help they need because if all this is true then he is definitely in on it.
this. i had a groomer of an ex who also cheated and gaslit on me since i was 17 (we were also queer and in the closet and me being so young i had no idea they were too old for me, they were in their 20’s…) i’m currently in the happiest, safest relationship i’ve ever been in. i live with my partner and his roommate, my cats LOVE him, he accepts all my quirks wholeheartedly. i never worry about voicing my feelings around him and i never have to assume future planning is actually just lovebombing. i rarely if ever think of the abusive ex i had for 8.5 years. or the shitty people i got with before my current partner as i navigated the world of adult dating. if something reminds me of ABUSE, i am quite open about it sharing my experiences with abuse. but i don’t sit around stewing, waiting for a chance to bring up my ex so i can hate them. and i was ABUSED. these people obsess when the weren’t abused, they were the abuser. i guess what i’m saying is it shows how unhappy they are in their life. i love not having a care in the world or a thought most days about the person who did me so wrong. your comment made me a bit emotional, in a good way. thank you. i never compare my current partner to previous ones, there simply is no comparison needed, i am safe now and i am so happy now.
The creep show and Jaclyn hill drama reminds me of when kids in hs used to make fun of me because my dad did drugs. Like I would even say “wtf does that have to do with me?” Because genuinely , what does someone’s parents behavior (especially if they aren’t in contact) have to do with them. Come for Jaclyn for what she has done not her father
For such a convoluted situation, that last Creepshow "expose" video was ironically the clearest demonstration that Creepshow & Anthony were responsible for the stalking... trying to defend yourself by gaslighting your accuser & demonstrating to the world how much info you've _collected & kept_ about this person that you have no interest in?? The screenshots of long-deleted accounts did it for me... that's not just an online beef, that's an _obsession._
i respect you for not using terms such as lovebombing or pathologizing the behavior you discuss. that's something i see a lot in these types of videos and it really irks me, so it's refreshing to see someone publicly say that they won't do it!
I have certainly made the same mistake in the past, and on reflection realized how that could be really bad considering I don’t personally know anyone I comment on and am not an expert on these topics!
@@luisdias5626 I don't have the energy or resources to attempt revenge or anything. I also have a disabled son to focus on so I just gave up most social media, cut her off and try to make my life too boring for her to even care. I do hope she will get what she gives one day though.
@@Lovelesslouvre that makes sense. I also think she does it because she honestly believes she is smarter, higher class and above those she targets. She didn't even want me in her wedding pictures because she thinks I am white trash or something.
@@harumskarum3481 lol she’s so insecure about herself, she feels the need to put herself on a higher pedestal to make herself feel better. Maybe you remind her of something she’s running from?
As I’m rewatching the entire timeline of this drama, I realized something. Shannon sure as hell has no problem supporting and yas-kweening Belle Delphine for coming back to social media to do sex work. Yet she feels the need to put together a five-minute compilation of weeaboo neckbeards displaying their thirst disguised as salt for Emily reviewing an anime in a provocative video. 😒
I'll save you the time. She praises people for the illusion of her being so great. It's to get information, to do what she did to Emily. It's fake nice.
There's no way a lawyer was advising Shannon. Rule number one is shut your damn mouth. The lawyer would have NEVER authorized Shannon releasing a video on that topic. Any lawyer worth their salt would say 'let me be the mouthpiece so you can play victim if something needs to be said.' The only other option would be a shady lawyer saying "send me 1000$ or whatever and I'll send a cease and desist." Knowing full well they had no intent of going to court and when it didn't work she spit that video out and they dropped her.
What my younger self would call a "Fuck Yeah Friday moment" lol. My son is finally down for his nap and you uploaded!! My heart breaks incredibly for Emily. As a recovering addict of almost 6 years I couldn't imagine constantly having it brought up, misconstrued, and used as a weapon against me. I unsubbed from Shannon about 8 months before all this broke simply because she was constantly saying contradictory statements from video to video and I just assumed she was just a fake ass person. Hope everyone has a wonderful and safe weekend! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Congratulations on getting clean! I'm also 6 years into recovery :) I still struggle with shame and self blame sometimes, it used to be much worse before years of therapy and recovery groups. It's a constant battle tbb. I don't like talking about it with anyone who isn't my family - I want to be open and help defeat the stigma around addiction, but I'm not very confident yet. The thought of it being discussed widely by strangers online is terrifying, let alone someone weaponizing it against me for millions to see.. The overwhelming support for Emily is heartening but it doesn't negate how utterly shitty it was of Shannon and how awful the experience must have been for Emily. I hope you are doing well, recovering addicts unite! ✊💖
when I saw this video had been posted I literally gasped and said "YESS QUEEN!!" Can't wait to see your coverage of this story. As someone who used to be a fan of Sh*nnon before this whole thing, videos about the situation are both fascinating and an outlet for my disappointment and confusion that someone whose content I once enjoyed turned out to be so awful.
I can completely relate! I used to watch her content when I first started making videos. I noticed after this whole thing a lot of RUclipsrs are more hesitant to make friends with other creators, in fear that they could be another Shannon. That’s certainly how I felt and it adds a whole other layer to “you never reallly know someone”…
@@cruelworldhappymind Absolutely. If I were a monetized (dependent for my livelihood I mean), I would be super hesitant to collab or link up with any other youtubers these days. So many good names get dragged into these messy situations for no other reason than proximity. SCARY!!
@@cruelworldhappymind I think social media (including RUclips) makes it very easy for people to show only one side (or just certain parts) of themselves - we see only what they want us to see. (This happens in real life too, but it’s a bit more difficult to hide who you are when you’re interacting with people face-to-face, on a regular basis). There is nothing inherently wrong with people deciding what they want and don’t want to share with or show the public at large. The problem comes in when people believe this social persona they see and know actually IS one and the same as the person/creator. It’s not. People following, watching or working with other people and creators need to understand this, and maintain a safe and reasonable distance, internally and externally. You have to protect yourself. I’m not sure if this would have helped Emily- but we all need to be aware and understand that what we see may not be what we get. It’s sad, but it is the reality. Thanks for the great video Madison, and sorry for the essay!
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART We can tell, seeing as your @ says "Stan CreepshowArt" in all caps. I'm not gunna shit on you for being a fan even though I vehemently do NOT share that opinion, but I will point out that it doesn't matter how much you like someone; they can still fuck up and do horrible things and people making videos on her about this is entirely fair. People are going to want to know what happened. Maybe you should reflect on the reasons why you hate videos on this situation. Why is it? Do you think the people you are fans of are above criticisms and mistakes? Do you just miss Creepshow? Do you see yourself in her and it feels personal? Are you sad things blew up the way they did? Are you sad that the idealized image of Shannon that she presented was shattered? I don't actually want you to explain yourself to me, btw, you do not need to or owe me any answers. I just think you should ask yourself why you feel that way maybe because this situation is the exact kind of situation Creepshow Art herself would make videos on when it was about other people. So, it feels kind of weird to be a fan of her and but then get upset when she's subjected to what she herself was ready to dish out.
You pointing out how the video seems more about Anthony clearing his name instead of Shannon makes so much sense. I didn't even think about that. This just goes to show how manipulated Shannon is (Not that she isn't guilty) I believe he egged her on and encouraged her to keep going out of his obsession with Emily. It's like Shannon did these things out of a need to please Anthony and prove herself to him.. And to top it off her insecurites helped alot. I think deep down shannon know it was always going to be Emily, and Anthony strikes me as someone who made Shannon feel she had to compete. Textbook Narcissist (although Shannon could be one too) and in her twisted mind she wanted to become Emily to the point where she realized she couldn't which ignited a flame to destroy her. So much resentment toward Emily by both of them, but for different reasons. Anthony's resentment from the fact that she was too good for him, saw through his b.s and moved on. Shannon's resentment stems from the fact that she isn't who Anthony really wanted. This is some sick lifetime movie type shit.
U're comment made me realize some things about my Dad I've always thought his manipulative ways are just like: = he does something bad then blames it on everyone but himself = making me "think" i was sooo evil But looking back, he's done so much more He manipulated me into "doing" something w/c is really crazy He made me lie, blamed me for poverty, made me hate my Mom & her family(talks about this from when i was 5 until the week he died), he wanted me to sign papers idk, used me to make my Mom get their marriage annulled so he'll have lots of money after, he wanted me to be with an old lawyer who is helping him(he also manipulated this lawyer) get his land,... i wasn't an angel myself but my father is so manipulative even now sometimes i think "He is not THAT bad. I am just being too-much-of-a-victim" My Mom didn't/can't leave Dad we're a mess but my Mom's fine coz He's dead. But me... i am sorry for myself bcoz i feel like ive been infected. I feel like i too bcom manipulative and its such a tough battle. I feel like i have no control of my feelings and is slowly going insane I'm scared of myself. I feel like another version of my Dad Uknow, when my Dad died, everyone actually talks about him in a positive manner---he got debts to pay to some of these people, he talks bad about these people Important to note that sometimes someone will manipulate him too My Dad's mother already died when i was born but i think, base on how he talks about her. My grandma seems manipulative +land-grabber too Manipulation ruin lives It's hard to get out of it I hope ill be fine before i die i don't wanna have a messed up life forever like my father
I really hope Emily, Peaches, and everyone else hurt by this person can have a nice life after all of this. It's appalling behavior and nobody deserves to go through this.
Creepshow always felt off to me from the first video of hers I watched. A person who is nice and a good person doesn't need to tell you that. She told the internet several times she was a good person. The way she dug into things and that unhinged document was definitive proof she has been the opposite of what she claims she is the whole time she has made videos.
Same. Long before this drama I got this kind of vibe from her. Like one of those people who always says "I hate drama" but is the person always going out of their way to stir up drama.
I quite quickly became tired of her videos because she was always complaining about stuff. I also didn't like how she talked; like aggressive almost, like she was always pissed off... which I now understand was exactly what she was. I hope she gets some help. Not for her own sake (I simply cannot feel sorry for her), but for the sake of people around her.
Creep is definitely the word I'd use for Shannon I can't believe there's been a 10 year stalking situation on the platform that's ridiculous. Shannon is definitely in the wrong for going back into someone's childhood some of us don't like to look at the just because of how dumb we were.
The fact that you can create such high production value, well researched videos with a new bebe will bever cease to amaze me! Can't wait to snuggle up with my cat and continue the rest of this video 🖤🖤
The whole Hopeless Peaches thing is proof of the stigma and misunderstanding when it comes to mental illness. I’m not sure what condition she has, but emotional states can be very volatile and change drastically over hours, days, months and years. Being suicidal isn’t always a constant state. I’ve experienced it myself many times. You’re coping with life and then suddenly go off the deep end, only to quickly gain control again. CSA always claimed to be a mental health ally, yet accuses someone of baiting when she knew absolutely nothing. I’ve worked in mental health, regardless if someone is serious or ‘doing it for attention’ aka screaming for help, it should be taken seriously. But CSA has ZERO evidence that it was the latter anyway. Hopeless Peaches went through hell because of CSA, whilst struggling to cope with a current condition. I stopped watching CSA during that time. I have a dozen other criticisms of CSA, but that took the cake.
Yes! It is especially not uncommon to be in a dark place, and then a few hours later, pretend like it never happened. I've done it so many times without even realizing. I did it today T.T I was thinking about my trauma a few hours ago, and now I'm on RUclips watching a video about CSA, acting completely like I hadn't been on the verge of tears all day. It's the whole "taking a selfie after crying" meme except real and much bigger than a selfie. I could go on about this, but I need to wake up early tomorrow. Speaking on Hopeless Peaches, I do not know that I'd be able to make it through if I went through what she went through. She's so strong and I admire that about her.
I feel like anyone who is open and honest about their mental illnesses will eventually have to deal with accusations of "faking it". I felt a ton of sympathy for Peaches because I have been there. Dealing with Bipolar 1 is already a nightmare, but then also dealing with everyone trying to gaslight you by telling you you don't have an illness makes you feel even more sick. I know the stories of countless others who experienced the same. People who don't struggle with severe mental health issues tend to accuse others of faking it because they are projecting their own ill intent on to someone who is sick. It's extremely toxic and fucked up.
I've been in recovery for 11 years this October... honestly, one of the biggest fears I have about creating content is that my past will be dug up and used against me despite the amends that have been made and the different life that I live today. This whole situation is so bizarre...
You're such a bada$$ for kicking that mean little addict monster in the face! If anyone were to bring up your past they're just stupid. First of all: the reason someone starts using isn't because they're a sh*tty person, it's because there's some sh*t in their life, that makes them feel sh*tty. I was an addict for almost 10 years and I never met another addict who didn't have a story to tell. Secondly: addicts do stupid sh*t. Not the person who's addicted, but the addict. Thirdly: it doesn't matter what you did, it matters what you do. And what you're doing is being a total rockstar for choosing to be present in your own life and battle hardships without the "help" of substances. That's what matters.
@@askthefrog You are a TREASURE! Thank you for the reminders (to Based Boomer and Laniakea S, too!) that our past cannot be weaponized against us because we've already survived ourselves. In the context of this video, I really respect Emily as a person who continues to hold her head high! Big ups to all my fellow addicts. Recovery is possible.
Yet another great video! Been a subscriber since you focused on anti-mlm content but I'm gladly following you along for the ride :) On a side note, AHHHH what is the music used throughout??? (especially in the opening and conclusion) I LOVE it but Shazam doesn't recognise it - I don't think it logs copyright free stuff.
Much of the music thru out the episode is Beethoven's 5th symphony. Or maybe it's the 9th, I always forget. But it's Beethoven. I don't know what the opening music is.
You made Shannon less triggering with voice mods. 😭 That woman triggered my anxiety so bad. I love how much empathy you have in your videos. Being empathetic can be taxing. I hope you're in therapy lol. 💜
She has the most malicious affectation in her voice whenever she speaks for real, I had the creeps from her years ago within a flat second of hearing lmao
@@UltraTaka1 right? I never got into her because of it. You can hear the sneer in her voice, the venom. I thought I was reading too much into it until it all blew up but you can hear the malice.
Ikr. Even when I watched her videos she was aggressive. I always felt uncomfortable with her videos and stopped watching them because it was hard to listen. There's this one video where I remember she mentioned someone in the comments asking her to swear less and she gonad and was like I can do whatever I want. Like yeah its your channel but you don't need to be so mean about. Once she was outed as a stalker it was kinda in her character so ot wasn't a shock to me.
My personal red flag was when she obsessively gushed about Meghan Markle for half a video that wasn’t even about her. Meghan is a very obvious narcissist, why does she stan her?
I remember how back then I realized that Shannon was behind the lol cow account based on her reaction. If she wasn't aware of these posts, wouldn't she act shocked about their existence or deny any knowledge of those or where they come from? Instead she immediately said that it must have been her stalker via IP spoofing, admitting the messages came from her IP. It just sounded more like the reaction of someone who is aware of those posts already
@@talin121 honestly idk. they've gone to the point of sending me and others death threats, because i didn't feel comfortable showing support to shannon smh
Former Shannon fan here, and there’s absolutely no overstating how much we, as her fanbase, trusted her at the very least to be a considerate and progressive person. The reason I gravitated towards her channel, even when she shifted to a new style of drama content, was because she was very casual with her viewers, like we were listening to a friend talk about some drama they’d experienced recently. She made it a point to be inclusive of all identities and that’s why I felt safe and believed the initial hacker story, hook line and sinker. Then it comes out that she’s been saying all this bigoted bs, using slurs she has no right to reclaim, and just in general being the absolute definition of a high school bully. Her last hurrah before she released the “comeback” to Emily was a video talking about the history of pride AFTER she’d been found out, like some sort of last ditch effort to prove that she cared about marginalized communities. It was all very insulting and horrible to watch in real time, you really had to be there to get the full scope of this mass betrayal and sudden shift of public opinion. Nowhere near what Emily went through, I know, but still worth mentioning how good she was at getting people to believe her lies and buy her fabricated persona as reality.
Funny “not funny” but you had an issue with iilluminaughtii in the past, and made this video about Creepyshow Art and now people are saying they are the only and the same: you should do a follow up 🙏🏾❤️
I had been following Emily for years and Shannon was in my recommendations like lice and seeing this all unfold in real time (including Emily mentioning her stalker before she even named her) was like being in an avalanche
I had a stalker in high school, and they'd break into my house all the time and steal my underwear and leave notes under my pillow, in my drawers, in pockets of my jeans, etc. They stalked me for close to 4 years, and the last thing they did(that I'm aware) was they put a dead chicken in a bag and put it in my mailbox, and said it was my aborted baby(I've never had an abortion) and they stole 4 of my dads guns that same time. To this day, I'd really like to know who it was, but I know I'll never find out who it was. *Edit* We did notify the cops, both before the guns were stolen and after. They never came up anywhere, but the cops and pawn shop had the serial numbers and descriptions and everything.
@@ridita5221 agreed no way would the cops not be involved in the theft of 4 guns unless dad was covering for someone. Possibly a friend or family member of the dad who had known mental health issues/delusions
@@ridita5221 right cause why didnt they get alarm system and surveillance for someone breaking in "all the time"? But ive watched obessesion on id discovery and ive seen cases of the stalker breaking in a few times. So its possible. But Idk y her parents didnt do something. In the cases im mentioning, the women lived alone. Listen im not playing about my child. If someone comes through my house, theyre declaring they dont want to live.
@@Angel-gp6tx my dad had built that house, and I didn't tell him everything that was happening, just some of it because I felt like it was my fault somehow. Also, this was in Juneau, Alaska in the early 2000s when I was in high school. Security systems weren't a big thing at the time, and my dad had no clue how bad it really was because I was too embarrassed to tell him they stole my panties and bras, and left notes in my underwear drawer n stuff. Idk why, but at the time I felt like I did something to make someone mad, and deserved it.
Having a cleaning day and was bummed I had nothing good to watch. Refreshed my page and this was just uploaded and I’ve never been so excited!!! Love your work, love the length, love you!
Y'know what's scary? Plotting the downfall of another RUclipsr because they're gaining popularity and surpassiing your fame, that feels awfully familiar & I could understand that. I was sorta "popular" for a few years back in deviantART and whenever the artists I envy gain more praise or got more popular than me I got angry & either blast them on my journal or copied their artworks, cuz I was an envious copycat. But that was the mid-late 2000s. I was a dumb teenager, and being that catty & competitive was still "the norm" 10 yrs ago. Cant believe some people still behave this way in the now. Also the part with peppering those lolcow posts with homophobic/transphobic language. I can understand why. In Shannon's mind she's "disguising/impersonating someone who posts regularly on lolcow" and not as herself, cuz "oh i would never say those things so people wouldnt expect I posted those things" but they did. lol.
I come back to these videos covering this situation from time to time, and it still blows my mind how hard Shannon tried, and failed spectacularly, to become Emily. Emily has an art based RUclips channel- Shannon creates an art based RUclips channel. Emily uploads videos showing her drawing/sketching while telling stories- Shannon starts making videos where she’s drawing/sketching while telling stories. Emily has a stalker- Shannon ends up with a stalker. Emily is able to use I.P. addresses to her advantage when dealing with her stalker- Shannon tries to use I.P. addresses to…oh, well shit…Shannon ends up outing herself with the I.P. address b.s. Obviously Shannon wasn’t bright enough to get away with the lies. Perhaps she was jealous of the “hold” that Emily had on Anthony. So she thought that if she made herself into Emily, Anthony would shift his attention to her rather than Emily. Whatever the reason, Shannon was doing everything in her power to turn herself into Emily. But Emily was a much better human being overall and that just wasn’t something Shannon could mimic.
The way she attacks even the fans who were saying "oh we still want you to come back" for some reason really, really pisses me off. It's like she had to attack EVERY ONE. Not that this is worse than what she did to Emily but my God, you had to attack even the people who STILL wanted to support you?
I don’t think those “fans” exist, she actually used their hypothetical existence to take the moral high ground (as always) and act like she is so above supporting horrible people.
@@Angel-gp6tx yep go to the very end after she texts hipster and then she goes after the people who went to her and said oh Blair I trust you I don't think you're lying, even if you did do the stuff on kiwi Farms I still think your art is great and stuff similar to that and to them she freaked out on them told them they needed to get a life to go out and touch grass and never ever message her again or even think about her because they are pathetic I'm not saying that those were her exact words but that was the gist of what she said and I know she said go touch grass and called them pathetic oh and losers
A thing that I don't see being brought up that often is that Shannon claimed that when Emily said she had been sober for 3 years in *September 2016*, it would therefore mean she started being sober around November *2012* (1:27:38 on the video) But anyone who knows basic math will know that the real date would have been Semptember *2013* (2016-3=2013). Shanon just pretends not to know basic math and hopes no one will notice and pretends that 3 years before 2016 would be 2012 to claim that Emily couldn't possibly be intoxicated in 2013 which is when she said the ass*ult took place Trying to defend someone who commited sa is gross enough, doing so by deliberately twisting a victim's words to fit a narrative is just abhorrent
@@TehMomo_ Yeah but the video Shannon used as proof that Emily lied about it wasn’t posted in 2015 like Shannon claimed. It was kinda funny because you could see the post date of that video in Shannon’s video and it compleatly debunked the claimes Shannon herself had been making for such along time winding up to giving us the «proof». Like it would have been sad if Shannon wasnt being so malicious that I couldn’t feel bad for her.
As someone who had a stalker just seeing creepshow's name brings shivers down my spine. I don't understand and is terrified of this sort of obsessive person.
This is one of the best "drama" videos I've ever seen. No sensationalism, no villainizing, just well reasoned and compassionate coverage. This is the first video of yours I've seen and I'm sold tbh, great job 🌻
It was so frustrating to see the little lies Shannon and Anthony directly slipped in to misdirect. The one that always frustrated me the most was the "3 years in November" song Emily posted in 2016. Of all the commentary I watched, almost no one mentioned it and I was so relived that Emily herself caught it. She was SO ADAMANT that Emily was "sober" in 2012 to clear Anthony that she had to make up her own math, but because she said it with her whole chest, people just couldn't hear how wrong it was. When has 2016-3 ever been 2012?? Aaaaa
Thank you love!! 🥺💜 I’ve been trying to make content more frequently it’s just challenging with the length and details in the videos. Hope you enjoy them!!
Also with Brita Filter - that is the name of a S12 Rupaul’s Drag Race Queen. I remember watching a video of Shannon in which she was drawing another S12 Queen, Crystal Methyd.
Always thought it was funny how most people that cover this story seem to not know about Brita Filter 😅 Also, I feel like she chose to use Brita's name cos Brita was widely disliked during her time on RPDR
It's just absolutely sad and pathetic that a woman would join in on stalking an ex of your husbands. If my husband were to do something like this, I would kick his ass out of the house. Obviously, she was jealous over the fact that her husband was still obsessed with another woman. Truth is, they are children trying to pretend that they are adults. Most adults don't have time for this petty junior high school BS.
Same. I don't know anything about the ppl she talks about. Sometimes I don't even know their names, like this time, but I love watching her vids about these crazies.
It’s like the art community saw everything going on in the beauty community & pulled a hold-my-beer. I’m glad Emily got to speak her truth though & I hope she finally gets some peace. Shannon needs to be banned by every wifi provider on earth.
It says a whole lot about Emily’s character that she thought that Shannon was also a victim instead of immediately thinking that Shannon was harassing her to.
What topic should I cover next?! Sorry the video coloring got a little weird on the second half of the video (I was trying to go for a good/evil look with the backgrounds but instead ended up looking like a ghost in the second half of the video, lol!)
You havent really touched on the cryptosphere ...
you should do Olsen twins! Love the videos
I think you should look at predatory marketing in the gambling scene and predatory "freemium" games that are basically just scams. This stuff is increasingly popular and being marketed to young people and its super messed up tbh
-- Video essayist vs debate bros
-- Treatment of women or marginalized creators on RUclips
-- evolution of types of content on YT vs Twitch vs TikTok
-- which is more toxic: Tiktok or Twitter?
fresh and fit, fresh and fit, fresh and fit. Please discuss the rise of alpha male RUclipsrs and their rise on the platform and the counterculture they are creating.
Love your channel and your content! I always get nervous seeing creepshow stuff pop up on m feed but I am so glad I watched this. You did a really great job. This was a thorough and well researched recounting!
One thing that I find myself having to correct a lot is that Anthony did NOT know where I worked (around 1:35:00)
He knew the *type* of restaurant I worked at (I told him “I’m still working at that sushi place” but purposefully kept it vague to avoid a digital trace of my workplace), but I never publicly shared my exact place of work nor did I share it with him.
Because of this, I believe he impersonated another friend and posted the question, “Does anyone know any good sushi places in (where I lived at the time)?” In order to find the exact location by using the details he had at the time.
This is, unfortunately, a good example of Shannon filling in some blanks with blatant lies as well as slightly twisting my words so it seems perfectly believable that she may have a “point” here and this is just me being hyper paranoid.
This also happened when she tried to claim the snapchat stories were just an ARG. If you read through the snapchat messages, the other party not only refers to very specific and personal things about me in ADDITION to the ARG a elements, but they also reference being too young to drive so their parents drove them to my city… those Snapchats were sent around the same time I received the Britta Filter messages. It’s just all such a weird coincidence, I personally believe that WAS Shanthony and they were just using that ARG as a vehicle and cover for harassment.
hope ur doing well queen! thank u again for sharing your story and helping others who are going through similar situations
Thank you so much for clarifying and providing further detail! Sorry I was trying to get everything right but there were so many details I knew I’d probably miss something 😕There was a lot to sort through and I often found my head spinning- I can only imagine what you’ve been through over the years. I’m. So. Sorry. For all you’ve experienced. I tried my best to approach from an unbiased place and with every new piece of information my mind was blown that things got exponentially worse. And as a fellow mother I often became emotional when researching because I could see and feel how much you care for your children and your role as a mother, and I relate to that so much- I admire you for how much you fought to protect your children. You’re doing an incredible job 💜
Your story gives me the chills every time… no one should ever have to go through that kinda hell. Thank you again for speaking your truth ❤️ we’re all here for you.
I hope you're doing okay. As someone who doesn't know about any of this, the tale is harrowing and I am so so sorry you had to go through this. Its scary. I can't even say this is a cautionary tale because this is just batshit insane. I'm glad you've come out of this and wish you success
i hope your going ok there your so strong for sharing your story hope you and you family are safe and happy now!
“I’m not a stalker” proceeds to recount every moment of Emily’s life since she was 13
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART Sure Jan.
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART and the sky isn’t blue
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART Shannon we all know it’s you stop pretending
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART well you’re as delusional as she is
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART Your account is something Shannon would make.
Her cancellation was probably one of the few true cancellations. Most people are “cancelled” and can bounce back but Creepshow was truly just eliminated and she needed to be. People like her do not deserve a platform.
Even from distancing yourself from the victims, Shannon's life from now on is just.. upsetting.
She's married to a guy whom is obsessed with his ex, and partially wrapped HER into this, her name is tarnished, her family life is strained, there's certainly no money streaming in, lost all friends, been publically humilated, probably has her own hateful stalkers in return, she's literally all alone.
@@seraphim108 to play devils advocate : Even murderers and child molesters have friends. Unfortunately evil attracts evil. May not be a positive choice of people to surround yourself with. But at the end of the day,maybe not on social media, she will be back. Somewhere.
Kinda early to make a comment like that
@@middle-agedMan evil friends arent great to have around and dont count much for friends.. even as companions to other evil people.
@@TannerisSmol97 i would agree if it was any other youtuber but i can say for sure she's not bouncing back lmao. Even if she has some fans left all of her creator besties turned their backs completely on her, which is pretty important to mantain an audience imo. And tbh even if she tries to come back i think she's just gonna be bullied into oblivion, she doesn't have the power of someone like james charles
I can’t imagine marrying a guy who is staking his ex and trying to get me involved to the point i end up taking over. Her Self esteem is lower than hell. I’m sure the hate towards Emily was rooted by her husband’s obsession with his ex and not her. This is humiliating in every way possible.
Absolutely. My sister's ex from high school (which she has the unfortunate task of co-parenting with) is a lunatic, every girlfriend and SO that he has had since she got away from him has looked like she does, has the same hobbies/interests. These assholes constantly compare their current relations with their obsession. Abusers suck.
Not to mention, how she disgraced her sister.. someone whom she's had all her life. Even with abusive family, typically, you can always go back to them, (or at least one family memeber)
I'm typically not that big on the "but they're your family!!!" train. But wow. I wonder what even pushed her to that point.
...Putting it that way, that's really depressing, imagining loving this man who's more obsessed with his ex than in love with you. Yikes.
Not to mention she was a teen and he was in his 20s when they met. I don't doubt Emily's theory that he started, Creepshow happily followed and he settled for just manipulating her. And like Creepshow said HER stalker did, she would harass Emily as a a messed up stress relief
Im sure she was absolutely miserable being with an abuser
14:43 - Yup, as the friend who stayed up all night talking to Peaches to make sure she didn't do anything rash, that is what happened.
You are a great friend! 😊💯 Wish there were more people in the world like you.🌎 💛
Bro you are a great friend I can't believe I used to be a Shannon Stan sometimes people support shit they shouldn't be supporting without realizing just because they admired a creator. I hope you guys are way better now
@@kristiriley There are people like me out there, they just tend to not be as loud as the bad actors.
@@Thirsaa So long as you've learned from it, it's alright.
🥺 well I happy you where there
No matter how many videos I watch on this situation, it still boggles my mind that anyone can be this unhinged. I honestly hope she receives the help she so desperately needs
Very true, it is clear Shannon is struggling with something and I hope she is able to get help and grow as a person because that’s all any of us can ever really do in life. She has caused a lot of pain, and I hope she’s able to make amends one day
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART lol Dude- the proofs literally in the pudding
I agree also I watched her for over a year and its still crazy to me
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART lmao nice try shanon
@@angelac5954 you are a perfect example of a therapist who doesn’t have a firm knowledge and understanding of personality disorders. Therapists don’t know everything and don’t specialize in everything
Not sure if it’s mentioned but I think it’s worth remembering. In Shannon’s video she shows screen shots from Emily’s old Facebook, from 10/11 years ago. But in the screenshots, under the comments it says ‘8 years ago’. She’s had those screenshots for at LEAST 2 OR 3 YEARs before Emily even made her first video.
Good that you pointed that out because a lot of people overlook that
Yup. I can't remember exactly which video showed it but they were supposedly recently and it showed the screenshots were taken 2-3 years ago.
Holy crap. This woman really is obsessed.
Good lord 🤦♀️ Shannon is so pathetic
@@ShortStuffMegs21 a streamer was looking into the evidence in her script for her comeback video against Emily with his friend and his friend noticed it if I'm not wrong !
Regarding Peaches' mental health: Even if someone is "faking it for attention", the fact that they feel the need to do that is still probably a sign of a mental health at, at the very least, a moment when they actually do need social support.
I think you're correct here. Not saying that faking for attention is good or okay but could indicate another root problem
Yes, faking a mental illness is itself a sign of mental illness, maybe not the one they’re faking but clearly that person should reach out to a counselor for some support. Reaching out when you’re struggling is so important, and not everyone presents the same way when they’re in a hard place.
@@krk6216 spot on
Yes. Like attention seeking isn’t always bad. Everyone needs attention and to feel like they’re heard. And sometimes people want attention just simply because it makes them feel something or better for a bit.
Whenever I hear someone say that somebody faked a mental illness for attention I roll my eyes. That’s literally a sign that they’re mentally ill and needing help. As a kid I would pretend to fake die online, and a year later I had tried to kill myself. If ppl stop taking that cry for attention as attention seeking then maybe more lives taken by suicide would still be alive.
Imagine stealing sexual images someone took of themselves as a mentally ill teenager and threatening to release them because you think it makes *them* look bad. How awful
Imagine not realizing having that Facebook account means you are in fact in possession of CP 🤦♀️ so it’s not a crazy accusation Emily being 16-17 is still a child. (I know this is old now but I had to, I got here from the new illuminaughii drama 😅 I still can’t believe this whole situation actually happened)
It’s highly illegal too, both from a CP point of view but it’s also revenge p*rn
The reason Shannon fixated on Emily’s sobriety dates was to prove Emily was sober on the date Anthony allegedly SA’d her. As though someone can’t SA you when you’re sober. It was a moot point.
That’s disgusting, why would she do that… I’m so so so glad she’s been fully canceled, that lady is psycho
Shannon woke up one day and decided to emphasize the “creep” in Creepshow Art.
😂 😂
She was always the creep
It's kinda "scary" because she is so self aware of who and how she is that she has always done stuff like that (like how she admits how she's a terrible liar, yet she still lies). She knows, but she continues.
@@JillCheese Yes, that was surprising to hear. To have some degree of self-awareness, but to continue down that path- I don’t know how that works exactly..?
She was always a Creepshow who thought she was an artist.
Thank you for covering this because so many people covered this and it was hard asf to follow Lmaoooo
🥺💜 thank you for always being so kind and supportive
Ditto! Thank you!
DUDE !
I have tried so many times to understand.. so many videos sent unfinished. I couldn’t understand what happened, ever lol.
I’m so happy to see the comments in here. I wanna be part of this anti-creep show thing everyone else is. I want to hate things too ):
@@missyelliot6237 😂😂🤣
Facts
Can we talk about how Shannon/Anthony could theoretically be charged with possession or possibly even distribution of CP????? That has been massively swept under the rug for some reason
Edit: I didn’t mean that I was surprised they weren’t arrested. That doesn’t shock me at all. I’m just surprised no one is really talking about it, because if Shannon is willing to go that far, I wonder what else she might have in her possession
This is the first time I’ve heard mention of it. But with people of this caliber, it wouldn’t surprise me.
I was thinking the same thing!
TBH prosecutors and the investigators that look into that type of thing have way bigger fish to fry. If this was something they did frequently or were still doing, then yeah. But the likelihood of them being charged with this is slim to none. Perhaps if it had been brought to prosecutor/LE attention back when it was ongoing, but even then it might be more of a harassment/revenge porn deal
I say this because an extended relative of mine was arrested and eventually plead guilty to making CP with teens. And even that entailed a multi month police investigation and there were several victims who were still underage at the time of the investigation
Im wondering about this too, ive heard this being mentioned but what would be the legal ramifications at this point
This
that sums up this whole situation: “don’t believe Emily when she says we’re stalking her. she’s a bad person, and we would know because we’ve been tracking her every move for years.”
It’s so bad it’s like a punchline. As if the whole thing’s just a game to see how much they can get away with.
It almost feels like they just wanted ad revenue 💀 granted, I haven't watched the video
sounds familiar 🤷♀️ literaly i cant believe how many people are like this ,how dare you do these things while we been invading your privacy like oh my gawd becky🤢hilarious😄 but laughing at them??oh right nevermind your own bad actions, don't worry what i do n look at u boo!😂😂
The worst part of Shannon's "response" was she claiming that Emily lied about her abuses because no one gets to be abused by so many people when in reality someone who has mental issues or drug problems are more likely to be abused and manipulated and usually are in a cicle of abuse with different people.
I know like sick fucked up people always target vulnerable people it’s just sadly so common
Exactly. Once you've been victimised once you are statistically so much more likely to fall into more abusive relationships because these abusers seek this out. It's like they know who to go for. People wouldn't believe me of I told them how many times I'd been victimised by various people in my almost 30 years. But it's true. Once it happens once you're unfortunately at risk for life.
I want to say this carefully, because I genuinely do NOT mean it as victim blaming, but if you are used to cycles of abuse, you are prone to fall into them and accept them because they are familiar. There is a sick comfort in the familiar being less frightening than what you don't know. You have been conditioned to believe you don't deserve better. It takes a lot to mentally break away from that cycle mentally and physically, and it is so easy to fall back into it.
Plus if you've gone through previous abuse or have mental health issues, abusive people can absolutely pick up on that vulnerability and see an opportunity.
@@alim.9801eww i know they're like literal predators
What lolcow did with cross referencing Shannon’s IP in those posts was a Work a fucking art, and should forever be memorialized as one of the greatest virtual exposé ever
That was my favorite part of the whole video. They put Shannon on blast! Like, wow actual consequences for breaking the rules, every social media site ever would never!
It's just a beautiful mic drop. I've never dreamed of going on those kinds of sites (Kiwi Farms, Lolcow, 4Chan etc) as they just don't appeal to me. Instances like this though, where someone tries to get clever and gets absolutely smacked down by them is just lovely to see.
Quite a lot of forum sites operate like this actually because they are independently funded and don't have to rely on ads so they can literally do whatever they want.
@@chelsbeaupeeplove to see some good karmic Justice and a website helping achieve it
Its such a wild sort of abuse, to be dating a woman, while obsessed with his ex, & getting the new woman to also help him. Its layered abuse.
It is wild, think this also is the case with Onision & Kai(? I think that's their name still?)
Reminds me of this dash cam footage I saw a while ago! Guy and his new girlfriend got pulled over & arrested.. cops found missing woman tied up in the back of the car. The kidnapped woman was the guy’s ex girlfriend, who he had been stalking since the breakup. After talking with the victim, they found out that the guy had also gotten his new girlfriend to obsess over & stalk her as well.. going so far as to planning & executing a kidnapping.
@@cindynicole9445 that's so sick, what the hell is wrong with people
That must've been so scary for the poor girl involved
I feel like if Shannon splits with her husband in a couple of years, she'll try to come back to YT and say "oh Anthony forced me to stalk Emily. I didn't want to do it!" She's that manipulative.
You're right 💯!!
She seems like the type to do something like that. Ugh. I hope she just stays off of youtube and gets the help she seriously needs.
Even if she did she’ll never have her career back
She’d never divorce Anthony let’s be real. In her mind, he’s the only thing she has “over” Emily.
I know guys like him. They like to pin women against each other for their pleasure. He was feeding her obessession for sure. I SEE him getting away with it a lot. If he would have been q good boyfriend Shannon wouldn't even know about Emily at all. He defenetely fed her crap about Emily.. He's just as bad and manipulative.
Gotta love the “I’m not a stalker, you can’t trust my accuser because look at all this dirt I’ve accumulated on them over years and years” defense
I give it a name; it's called "Muckrakers' tactic." One who digs up dirt on another to deflect blame from themselves for their own sins.
@@SteveInLavabut also the irony that there is no way to know that information unless she was stalking them.
If CS sent Emily’s employer pron, that’s considered revenge pron. Then causing her to lose her job and become homeless. I think she has a great case for a lawsuit. Maybe even criminal charges from the revenge pron
Emily does have a solid case, the only problem is if she goes through a lawsuit she is going to have to relive every single traumatic event again. Personally I don’t think it’s worth suing Shannon, I doubt she would be able to pay up the amount Emily will deserve, and having these videos that validate Emily’s struggles helps her whenever a potential employer looks her up.
Revenge porn is a newer thing in law, would it have counted back then? I don’t know the history of the legality of it
But I don’t know if she could prove that it was them in a way that is good enough for court. I think her circumstantial evidence is pretty compelling but at the end of the day she can’t prove 100% it was them. Since Emily seems to have sought out professional legal counsel, my guess is that they probably adviced her against it.
Can anyone explain why people use "pron" instead of "porn"? I don't think you can get in trouble for using the word "porn" here?
@@montananerd8244 RUclips tends to delete comments with certain words.
I still love how Sh@non thought it would be a good idea to prove she’s not a crazy stalker by…being a crazy stalker and uploading a 2 hour long video of her stalking Emily
I'm sorry I love how you censored sh*nnon's name 😭
I read it "Shatnon" 😂
@Person 1 thats why i just call her creepshart lol
That's what happens when you get a delusional sociopath
THE FUCKING CENSOR 💀
i remember when Charlotte Dobre created her youtube channel, Shannon was talking about how much she loved Charlotte and told people to subscribe to her. But around that time Charlotte said she was getting hate messages from someone, and i always wondered if it was Shannon lol
Omg, I feel like I remember this. It would not surprise me at all though
what video did charlotte talk about this omg
I love Charlottes videos
Wooow, that's really sad. I honestly wouldn't be surprised, which just sucks. Charlotte just seems like such an upbeat, sweet person.
I'm subscribed to Charlotte Dobre and this SHOOK me!
I was a fan of Shannon's for a while especially with her onion boy coverage. When I saw this all unfold I was shocked because Shannon came across as genuine but now we know.
Completely agree, the whole thing blows my mind because I was a fan of her content as well. I guess you never really know someone 😕
I was for a while but when shes began to just yell or just bring up her homelessness i left.. It was so unnerving and tiring.. Then these thing happened and brought out to light
Same! I was really shocked when it all came out!
@@yuki97kira same!!
She always seemed phoney to me tbh , but I never expected her to be THAT phoney 😅
Shannon reaching out to Gabbie Hanna of all people alone tells me a lot.
Her legacy is basically a reminder to me to never completely trust people who are THAT insistent how loving and supportive they are.
It's been my core belief for years to always mistrust people who gloat about how "humble" and "kind" they are, especially if they talk in length about examples of them doing good deeds. No one who truly does good for the sake of doing good is going to advertise it to make themselves look better.
(The funniest case for me was one of a woman who told me how she used to help out in retirements homes "for free". The way she was boasting about it immediately made me doubt her intentions. I much later heard that it was mandatory community service for lying to police officers on a case)
like ellen!
You make a great point. People who say how loyal they are usually aren’t, they are just narcissistic.
Indeed. If you have to say you're kind, compassionate and humble, you're probably lying. To others and/or to yourself.
For me its the fact that shannons entire youtube career only existed because she wanted to invade emilys online space (youtube) and she even became successful at it, only to have the biggest most embarrassing downfall in all of yt BECAUSE of what she did to emily
I think the catalyst was her lolcow leak, even if Emily hadn’t come out against her she would’ve lost a lot. I have to admit, her downfall was long overdue considering how many people she wronged, imagine if she had been exposed in 2018-2019 right when she first gained notoriety.
Bio mutant definitley but imo the emily stuff was unforgivable and her attempt to refute it basically confirmed what emily was alleging in the first place
And now Emily had more subs than Shannon ever did and it’s well deserved. 🏆✨ Karma been that bitch and stays that bitch.
Gotta say. Karma got it right with this one. Build her up high, to take her down to her lowest lol well deserved I’d say.
It's the greatest irony that has ever happened
"I'm not a stalker I can prove it. You see when the person who's accusing me was 13 they-"
Bro.... That's you stalking right there
Fr! “I’m not a stalker guys, look at this screenshot of a post this person made when she was 13 (which I had saved in my computer for 2 years)”
My thoughts on the Hopeless Peaches situation: "Why are you mad at me for NOT killing myself???"
🤣 What an excellent but disturbing point!
During my worse mental health episodes I did similar shit to Peaches. I feel bad Peaches had people get angry at her for not killing herself
Exactly. That drama was super toxic and ridiculous. Even if it was just a cry for help…. So?! People are allowed to be emotional lol
Still the most unhinged response. I love it; "I'm not a stalker, anyways heres a complete Biography of this person"
My favourite part of these videos about Shannon is that Shannon 100% watches every single one of them because she can't help herself. She's proven time and time again that she can't help but engage with criticisms about her but now she can't say anything in response. I just know she watched this whole thing stewing in her anger.
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART okay shannon lmfaooo. shut up
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART that doesn't mean you can harass and send threats to people
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART goo goo gaga 👏🎶
how did i know the replies to this comment would be from sh*nnon 🫣🫣
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART you are an absolute psychopath...
there aren’t words to describe the horror i felt while watching Emily’s video when it first dropped. i was a casual fan of creepshow art, the lolcow posts were nauseating on their own but emily’s video was something else ENTIRELY
I had stopped watching creepshow art for a while before the video dropped. I ended up listing to Emily's whole video. The stuff she did to Emily was so bad. Like im just listening and it's just kept getting worse and worse
Add on a whole other level of crazy after she made her rebuttal video about Emily. I’m not a perfect person but you will never catch me using the walls of someone’s childhood bedroom for an argument.
Same!
I didn’t know who Emily was, and was only a casual fan of Shannon (I would turn her videos on when doing the dishes, mostly, for background noise)
And when Emily’s videos dropped, my heart SANK. I still can’t imagine what Emily’s gone through, even though I wasn’t all that surprised that Shannon was a stalker because her own stalker Storytimes didn’t seem…authentic. Her wording and much of her storytelling feels like it comes from the perspective of the stalker, not the stalked.
i was a really big fan on shannon and i even tried to be one of her speedart vidoes when she took fan submissions and i remember when the video dropped i was in bed for days because i never thought my fav youtuber would be the most vile person, she needs genuine help, I hope Emily and peaches are recovering well
Oh, I have been completely obsessed with the insanity that is Shannon since this story first broke. I was just making myself a new cup of tea, so I'm going to settle in and get comfortable.
Hope you enjoy the video! It is certainly fascinating, I was shocked as the story continued unfolding
Girl, i see you everywhere. We have the exact same taste in yt videos lmao.
As someone who used to avidly watch Creepshow Art, I saw a lot of red flags in her behaviour, like she came across as the "Mean Girl" that think she's not like "every other girl" and she could get way too raged over the smallest of things.
A lot of the stories she told in videos also didn't add up to past stories she'd tell, I never thought she would commit literally crimes, though. I'm hooked.
I'd like to see a video about trauma dumping and the harm it causes on both sides of the spectrum because a lot of content creators face it but are also guilty of it.
@Destiny Mine was this and Pyrocynical.
I'm glad Pyro is innocent but I'm not shocked that Shannon isn't.
What rabbit hole did I fall into? Started with illuminatii/Blair (and learning about this channel from that), to hearing that Blair was the new 'CreepShowArt' and I had to learn what that was about. So now I decided to go through Blair's victims channels and watch a few of their vids. Hope you're doing better!
This has been my experience as well
Same; As someone who doesn't even watch vids from like...ANY of these users...I've never heard of them or their cases. But now I'm just here like "dang, how many people are like this??". The only user I heard of from these so far was Miranda Sings/Colleen, and I only watched supposed collab vids between her and GloZell Green (aka, the only "main" RUclipsr I watch, aside from list vids, shows/movies, and robot combat).
RUclips is also the closest I'll get to social media, so I wouldn't know of any posts via Twitter, TikTok, etc. I avoid social platforms like the plague, and people like Blair and Creepshow are darn good reasons for me to continue doing so - aside from possibly super toxic communities within fandoms...
Same, watched her Blair video first and found myself genuinely enjoying the chill and empathetic vibes of the videos
Creepshow Art be like “I’m going to ruin my life on RUclips”
Colleen Ballinger be like “hold my wine”
Toxic gossip traiiiiiiinn
And Prince Harry says “You’re exactly like me!” 🤣
@@sadiestrike9069Chugging down the tracks of misinformaaaaaation😓🎶
@@ms.blooddiamond3857THE TOXIC GOSSIP TRAAAAAAAIIIIIIIN
Creepshowart's journey on RUclips is such an odd one, I don't think I've ever seen someone that built an entire career out of pure spite.
literally. it seems like creepshow made her entire channel, with the sole purpose of dominating emily and manipulating her
Spite was a large part of it but let’s not forget she’s just the sort who feeds off attention and drama like a vulture. I think she started the account to invade Emily’s space but once she realised she had created a source of attention and praise that became an equal motivation
"I WILL PROVE I'M NOT A STALKER!!!“
*proceeds to prove long-term stalking*
Just, ffs.
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART i think it’s funny you’re a fan of her when she herself said “if you’re still a fan of me or defending my actions, don’t. touch grass.” so you’re actively going against shitnon
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART goo goo gaga 👏🎶
I remember thinking to myself “how could anyone like her?” The way she talked was just so condescending and rude. I didn’t like her from the minute I watched one of her videos. Idk what it was. But I never subscribed to her.
I just knew that she didn’t sound like a very nice person. And I’m glad this all came to light. Really really sad for the people she hurt.
I didn’t like her, but couldn’t imagine she was this vile.
Yeah. And I don't think Shannon harassed Emily because she thought Emily was a bad person (due to brainwashing by Anthony). Shannon harassed Emily because of jealousy. Emily dumped Anthony. Anthony didn't want the relationship to end. Shannon later dated Anthony, learned about the super beautiful, fit, and outrageously talented Emily.... and of course... in Scorpio fashion, stalked the hell out of Emily to learn literally everything about her... out of jealous curiosity. Seeing how much better Emily was than Shannon in every possible way.... Shannon's jealousy grew to straight up hateful envy. And so she tormented her. Anthony is also an asshole, though. They tormented her together.
She has the tone and attitude of someone who is tumblr famous. I get why you'd feel irked (so do i) but i kinda get why she's famous
I liked her, but I really only watched her content about people who I already knew were bad people, like Onision. So the attitude didn't bother me since it felt deserved. I also worked in a restaurant, and language like her's was pretty common to me-so I never had and reservations or thought lesser of her just because she was condescending towards obviously crappy people. I rarely watched anything from her where I didn't have tea from another source first, but I did watch the one about Peaches and it had me feeling sus about her.
After that I started to pull away from her content since I didn't feel like she was acting in good faith. Hearing how she talked about people like Jacklyn Hill and others is shocking though. It's one thing to be rude to vile people like Onision, and it's another to make that comment about Jacklyn's cult-leader dad and all the other things she was bringing up about many other people.
I agree. The first time I heard about her was through the 'Zeefixesart' situation where one of her art (which was a fanart she made for her fan) was 'fixed' horrendously. I was watching someone else's commentary video that time and they had Shannon's opinion about this whole fiasco, which to be honest, I thought that she's a good person. The way she responded was very mature. I felt bad for her so I decided to check her channel out and maybe subscribe to her to give support.
And yeah, I didn't like what I see and heard. Like what you say, her tone was very condescending and sounded quite aggressive towards the person/topic she's talking about, it really gave me a mean girl vibe so in the end I did not subscribe to her.
I used to listen to her in the background of doing a task. When I actually listened to what she said, it most came off as a white savior who spoke in the place of the minorities she was talking about. I just brushed it off mostly, cause I didn't actually pay much attention to it.
Though, I stopped watching her when she called out an artist for drawing minors sexually, but put their name in the description. She said it was to "report them and not send harassment", knowing that people would harass the artist and simultaneously give that art more exposure when she thought it was terrible. It really showed her true colors, that she doesn't care for those issues, and more of so just wants a reason to be upset. Like Emily mentioned, Shannon wasn't upset at Emilys horrible actions, she just wanted to pull Emily down.
I appreciate how delicate you are about drug addiction. I'm a recovering addict, and sudden mentions of hard drug usage/ overdose often make me crave opiates again, but the way you mentioned addiction was so tactful, along with the TW for it before. Damn, that's really amazing for a wreck like me.
Stay strong, dude. That may be a sorta canned response , but I’ve been dealing with an opioid habit as well. I just turned 28 , started when I was 22. I’ve been clean almost 2 years now. I know that I sure as hell get cravings still. Just keep reminding yourself that being a little bit bored and blank is better than going back to that stuff.
@@HolyGoddessMotherAnne That's fine dude, but go say that shit somewhere else, it's not helping anyone.
@@APPEALtoFEAR Seems I never replied to you, but I appreciate ya! It's hard to stay sober, but it's better than the alternative. I spent a lot of time trying to quit only to relapse and somewhat erode what I was trying to build while on a sober stint... I've been fully clean now for over nine months, but I still get major cravings... Still, I'm hanging in there c:
@@HolyGoddessMotherAnne 1. "Acid" and LSD are the same thing , "acid" is just slang for LSD.
2. That is perfectly fine , I consider myself a spiritual person to a certain degree, and when I used drugs like LSD or Mushrooms, it was in an attempt to learn more about myself and/or and the universe.
But this is hardly the forum to discuss this.
LSD isn't considered anything but a recreational drug in that context, we are discussing addiction and dependance.
I understand you don't mean any ill will, but this should be discussed somewhere else.
@@AK-fr5zv Good for you dude. A thing that has helped me steer clear of using is trying to convince myself that cravings are "irrational" if that makes any sense to you.
It seems to be helping me alot , but that's the best way that I can describe it.
The most ironic thing about this is that if Shannon hadn't panicked and publicly denied those lolcow posts where hers, it likely would have gotten minimum attention.
Lolcow wasn't mainstream knowledge, half the youtubers she gossiped about didn't know it existed. But she panicked and announced it to EVERYONE who followed her.
I've seen her friends who weren't aware of what shannon was doing on lolcow until Shannon called attention to it.
man if those two weirdos spent that much time and effort learning about carpentry they could've built hundreds, nay thousands of lovely birdhouses
Yes, it's very sad people waste their time, energy and effort on such petty and even terrible things.
As a carpenter, this made me laugh.
Or they could’ve built themselves a house so as to no longer be the homeless hobos they bizarrely LOVED to go on at length about every single chance they had!
Honestly, the algorithm recommended Shannon to me back in late 2019/early 2020 and I watched a few videos. It was pretty obvious to me that Shannon was toxic. She went on and on about how awful the person she was talking about was but provided miniscule evidence or points compared to the insults. Maybe I've just known too many people like her but it was clear she was the type of person to shit talk people while claiming the moral high ground. Like maybe the person is bad but she's not talking about them because of that. She's talking about them because they're ate considered an acceptable target of her hatred.
That said I never would've imagined it went this far. Like damn toxic gossip is quite a leap from stalking, and that kind of harassment.
I know exactly what you're talking about. I think I watched one, maybe two of her videos and I couldn't get what the hype was, I couldn't watch them all the way through though because she was mean! She wasn't just a commentary channel, she straight up insulted people, and I just can't be around those kinds of people. Then it turned into this and I guess I wasn't surprised, lol.
I remember the day I stoped trusting CSA, and the day I realized that she was more dangerous than a ally
It was one of the videos where she would accuse a artist to be R*cist or a Pred*tor. I believe it was the video of a girl that made goth and Lolita style art, tackling DA and SA. I remember she saying she was romanticizing and glorifying ab*se.
I look for the artist, saw their work and I instantly realized that it wasn't romantization. It broke me, because it was clear she did no research, and created a whole narrative that putted that very young artist in a negative light, and exposed her to a group that would attack them. It wasn't a mistake, because she never apologized or told her audience to not attack the artist. It was pure malice.
From that day forward, I noticed her little slips, and it hurt people supported her, and I would pray for her to stop bringing pain to other like she did.
The hopeless peaches drama broke, and her video was proof I should support peaches.
The day Shannon was exposed, and the day she lost her career was a relief. The internet was a little safer after that
Same. I watched some of her videos after RUclips recommended me her channel and I saw the pattern immediately. The holier-than-thou attitude, the fake enthusiasm towards other creators, her need of inserting herlself continuously in the "stories" she covered... Yikes.
Long story short, I clicked "Don't recommend me this channel" option after a few videos. A couple of months later, Emily's video popped up in my feed and I was like "I knew CSA was troublesome!" before watching it but I wasn't expecting she was so unhinged 😬
Edit: grammar. English is not my ML 😅
I always got a gross feeling whenever she started overly complimenting people and making shoutouts. I couldn't pinpoint it, but I felt so uncomfortable and icky, and like it wasn't genuine. Amazing how intuition picks up on stuff like that!
@@leavemealone802 Wait she made a video about the dollieguts stuff?
I knew about everything but the Jaclyn Hill's situation and, as someone who cut all contact with my parents, it's disgusting. You don't choose who gave birth to you or participated, you are not responsible for your parents' actions. I cannot imagine the anger and pain Jaclyn must have feel seeing someone associating her and her estranged cult leader father in a video. I would be so pissed if I was associated to my parents' actions, I didn't have them out of my life for someone on the internet to associate us. There are multiple children of criminals and cults leader out there that already live with the guilt of their parents' crimes (thinking about Jim Jones' sons, for example) He's her bio-father, but he is out of her life and nobody should try to put him back in it , but Shanon didn't care, because she knew by saying Jaclyn name she was going to get more views than if she only talked about a random cult leader.
Exactly. I’m not a fan of Jaclyn or how she’s handled her own situation, but I can’t even imagine digging up a father she’s completely estranged from and holding him up triumphantly as an example of why she’s bad. Aside from being utterly batshit stalking, it doesn’t even make sense.
You are not responsible for anyone's actions but your own
Personally, I think Shannon became the stalker bc she saw how much damn time her husband was investing in his ex and just became bitter and jumped on board the crazy train.
The thing a lot of people forget is Shannon’s content was going downhill before the controversy. I found Shannon when I was in a though situation and looking up videos on how to safely be homeless and I was a pretty loyal viewer after that but her videos became more repetitive and rambling and when she talked about subjects I actually know about I realised she was missing major details and barely researching. So I had stopped watching months before the controversy.
Yasss! Agree, I noticed that too. Around february 2021 her content was shorter and mostly 80% of every video she was going on and on about unrelated things to the title, and then at the end gave 1 minute of actual topic and content 😂 rubbed me the wrong way. She even once thanked in may or april for 500k subscribers and said that even if its the last time she got so many subs and all will go to sh**t, she is happy😂 she knew before. True creep
Yeah, I was a casual fan on and off, she was in the wheelhouse of other creators/content I enjoyed, but at some point (just like with Onision and some other chanells) I felt weird watching her, like she was bitter or mean, and I started to distance and unsubcribed. I think she's one of the only youtubers I've unsubscribed to more then once? Something about her tone and how she talked about some people didn't feel right.
I watched 3 videos of her a few years ago and it felt AI generated honestly
Not to tooth emilys own horn but her voice geniunely irritates me, it sounds so high school mean girl @@stonalisa3729
she made a whole video about my art thief and never spoke or contacted me despite using my art and emails for the video. It actually did a bunch of harm in the end. But I'm not super angry about that being honest. At the time i was just happy someone cared enough to stand up for the little guy, when this news came out I felt nearly betrayed in a way.
Thanks for making this video, its always cathartic
Sorry to hear that. How did it harm you?
I'm so sorry to hear this, you didn't deserve that 😔💔 I hope you've since had mental peace after dealing with her harrrassment and the harm it caused towards you. No one deserves that and I'm happy to see accountability towards these manipulative bullies is happening as a form of closure for you!
I feel so bad for Hopelesspeaches she was done so dirty by everyone and nobody is apologizing to her
Most of the original people involved came out more recently and apologized for what happened, but ofc Shannon didn’t.
i genuinely think shannon hopped on that bandwagon because peaches is a better artist than her and she saw an opportunity to bury her
God. I still feel terrible about that whole thing and the only thing i did was unsub because i was new to her channel and didn't know what was happening :( I'm glad she's doing better, I really hope that she gets all she deserves and more someday, and is happy.
Kudos for dropping another two hour video less than two weeks after your montrous Paul brothers video! I hope you're taking plenty of breaks and enjoying you, your husband, and the baby.
Thank you 🥺💜 worked so hard on these last two videos and I hope you enjoy them!!
When I'm forced to refer to them, I'll call them the Monsterous Paul Brothers too.
The situation with hopeless peaches broke my heart. Imagine being in a horrible place only for some idiot to publicly accuse you of lying along with a testimony with an old “friend” encouraging it, I really hope Hopeless peaches is doing better now.
I remember being there for the Peaches drama and having ZERO idea of what was going on. I watched so many videos trying to understand what ANYONE did wrong and just not understanding it. It only made sense when it was revealed that Creepshow likely just smeared her out of sheer pettiness
Props to you for using a real photo of her, hate how people have been using her drawings as in the video thumbnail
Yesss I remember last summer when this all came out the first few videos that I saw all used the same thumbnail. They used the same art piece of Shannon it kinda just seemed like they were clipping each other’s thumbnails and trying to upload as soon as possible without much thought in it
I think I’ve only seen 2 others that feature her real pic and not the fan art. If I remember it right it was a commission someone drew for her, who she later tried to say was a scammer or something. Emily was really nice to the artist afterwards offering to finishing paying for what Shannon bounced on.
@@ZombieGravitation omg lol it’s not her art it’s fan art I didn’t even know that 😭
Heavily edited picture of her 😬, the real her are those pics of her in all black hair and no editing with double chins and all. (I’m a big girl too, not trying to fat shame here, just keeping it real).
Well, there isn't a ton of pictures of her, and her art is the most recognizable.
It must suck to be married to someone still completely obsessed with his ex and have it wear off on you over a decade. Support your fellow woman and realize if your partner continues to bash his ex then he was most likely a bigger problem/abuser/asshole in that past relationship.
My heart goes out to all of her victims. This is some seriously insane shit she had “allegedly” done. I hope she and her husband get the help they need because if all this is true then he is definitely in on it.
this. i had a groomer of an ex who also cheated and gaslit on me since i was 17 (we were also queer and in the closet and me being so young i had no idea they were too old for me, they were in their 20’s…)
i’m currently in the happiest, safest relationship i’ve ever been in. i live with my partner and his roommate, my cats LOVE him, he accepts all my quirks wholeheartedly. i never worry about voicing my feelings around him and i never have to assume future planning is actually just lovebombing.
i rarely if ever think of the abusive ex i had for 8.5 years. or the shitty people i got with before my current partner as i navigated the world of adult dating. if something reminds me of ABUSE, i am quite open about it sharing my experiences with abuse. but i don’t sit around stewing, waiting for a chance to bring up my ex so i can hate them. and i was ABUSED. these people obsess when the weren’t abused, they were the abuser. i guess what i’m saying is it shows how unhappy they are in their life.
i love not having a care in the world or a thought most days about the person who did me so wrong. your comment made me a bit emotional, in a good way. thank you. i never compare my current partner to previous ones, there simply is no comparison needed, i am safe now and i am so happy now.
The creep show and Jaclyn hill drama reminds me of when kids in hs used to make fun of me because my dad did drugs. Like I would even say “wtf does that have to do with me?” Because genuinely , what does someone’s parents behavior (especially if they aren’t in contact) have to do with them. Come for Jaclyn for what she has done not her father
For such a convoluted situation, that last Creepshow "expose" video was ironically the clearest demonstration that Creepshow & Anthony were responsible for the stalking... trying to defend yourself by gaslighting your accuser & demonstrating to the world how much info you've _collected & kept_ about this person that you have no interest in?? The screenshots of long-deleted accounts did it for me... that's not just an online beef, that's an _obsession._
i respect you for not using terms such as lovebombing or pathologizing the behavior you discuss. that's something i see a lot in these types of videos and it really irks me, so it's refreshing to see someone publicly say that they won't do it!
I have certainly made the same mistake in the past, and on reflection realized how that could be really bad considering I don’t personally know anyone I comment on and am not an expert on these topics!
This, and I also greatly appreciate the fact that she did enough research to not misgender Shannon's sibling! (which I've seen many creators do)
Why does that bother you?
@@FLdancer00 Because people on RUclips who don't have experience with Psychology often use these terms wrong.
@@cutienerdgirl If they have experience and do use them correctly, would that be ok?
I have a sister in law who does shit like this. She has ruined a few lives (including my own) for her own amusement and I will never understand it.
Did someone try some sort of revenge?
They’re miserable so they want others to be miserable. Misery loves company
@@luisdias5626 I don't have the energy or resources to attempt revenge or anything. I also have a disabled son to focus on so I just gave up most social media, cut her off and try to make my life too boring for her to even care. I do hope she will get what she gives one day though.
@@Lovelesslouvre that makes sense. I also think she does it because she honestly believes she is smarter, higher class and above those she targets. She didn't even want me in her wedding pictures because she thinks I am white trash or something.
@@harumskarum3481 lol she’s so insecure about herself, she feels the need to put herself on a higher pedestal to make herself feel better. Maybe you remind her of something she’s running from?
As I’m rewatching the entire timeline of this drama, I realized something. Shannon sure as hell has no problem supporting and yas-kweening Belle Delphine for coming back to social media to do sex work. Yet she feels the need to put together a five-minute compilation of weeaboo neckbeards displaying their thirst disguised as salt for Emily reviewing an anime in a provocative video. 😒
I'll save you the time. She praises people for the illusion of her being so great. It's to get information, to do what she did to Emily. It's fake nice.
There's no way a lawyer was advising Shannon.
Rule number one is shut your damn mouth. The lawyer would have NEVER authorized Shannon releasing a video on that topic. Any lawyer worth their salt would say 'let me be the mouthpiece so you can play victim if something needs to be said.'
The only other option would be a shady lawyer saying "send me 1000$ or whatever and I'll send a cease and desist." Knowing full well they had no intent of going to court and when it didn't work she spit that video out and they dropped her.
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What my younger self would call a "Fuck Yeah Friday moment" lol. My son is finally down for his nap and you uploaded!! My heart breaks incredibly for Emily. As a recovering addict of almost 6 years I couldn't imagine constantly having it brought up, misconstrued, and used as a weapon against me. I unsubbed from Shannon about 8 months before all this broke simply because she was constantly saying contradictory statements from video to video and I just assumed she was just a fake ass person.
Hope everyone has a wonderful and safe weekend! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
💜 Aw I hope you enjoy the video! Always the best feeling when my baby goes down for a nap and I have a few moments of rest and recover!
Everything's going PERFECT!! LOL Let's hope he (your son) gives you that perfect 2 hour nap to finish the vid!! :D
Emily seems like a really sweet lady - I honestly wish her the best
Congratulations on getting clean! I'm also 6 years into recovery :)
I still struggle with shame and self blame sometimes, it used to be much worse before years of therapy and recovery groups. It's a constant battle tbb.
I don't like talking about it with anyone who isn't my family - I want to be open and help defeat the stigma around addiction, but I'm not very confident yet.
The thought of it being discussed widely by strangers online is terrifying, let alone someone weaponizing it against me for millions to see..
The overwhelming support for Emily is heartening but it doesn't negate how utterly shitty it was of Shannon and how awful the experience must have been for Emily.
I hope you are doing well, recovering addicts unite! ✊💖
So close to 400k!! Good job lady! 👏🏻
Yay at 400k
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when I saw this video had been posted I literally gasped and said "YESS QUEEN!!" Can't wait to see your coverage of this story. As someone who used to be a fan of Sh*nnon before this whole thing, videos about the situation are both fascinating and an outlet for my disappointment and confusion that someone whose content I once enjoyed turned out to be so awful.
I can completely relate! I used to watch her content when I first started making videos. I noticed after this whole thing a lot of RUclipsrs are more hesitant to make friends with other creators, in fear that they could be another Shannon. That’s certainly how I felt and it adds a whole other layer to “you never reallly know someone”…
@@cruelworldhappymind Absolutely. If I were a monetized (dependent for my livelihood I mean), I would be super hesitant to collab or link up with any other youtubers these days. So many good names get dragged into these messy situations for no other reason than proximity. SCARY!!
@@cruelworldhappymind I think social media (including RUclips) makes it very easy for people to show only one side (or just certain parts) of themselves - we see only what they want us to see. (This happens in real life too, but it’s a bit more difficult to hide who you are when you’re interacting with people face-to-face, on a regular basis).
There is nothing inherently wrong with people deciding what they want and don’t want to share with or show the public at large.
The problem comes in when people believe this social persona they see and know actually IS one and the same as the person/creator. It’s not.
People following, watching or working with other people and creators need to understand this, and maintain a safe and reasonable distance, internally and externally. You have to protect yourself.
I’m not sure if this would have helped Emily- but we all need to be aware and understand that what we see may not be what we get.
It’s sad, but it is the reality.
Thanks for the great video Madison, and sorry for the essay!
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART We can tell, seeing as your @ says "Stan CreepshowArt" in all caps. I'm not gunna shit on you for being a fan even though I vehemently do NOT share that opinion, but I will point out that it doesn't matter how much you like someone; they can still fuck up and do horrible things and people making videos on her about this is entirely fair. People are going to want to know what happened.
Maybe you should reflect on the reasons why you hate videos on this situation.
Why is it? Do you think the people you are fans of are above criticisms and mistakes? Do you just miss Creepshow? Do you see yourself in her and it feels personal? Are you sad things blew up the way they did? Are you sad that the idealized image of Shannon that she presented was shattered?
I don't actually want you to explain yourself to me, btw, you do not need to or owe me any answers. I just think you should ask yourself why you feel that way maybe because this situation is the exact kind of situation Creepshow Art herself would make videos on when it was about other people. So, it feels kind of weird to be a fan of her and but then get upset when she's subjected to what she herself was ready to dish out.
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART
We all know ur just three creepshows in a trench coat
You pointing out how the video seems more about Anthony clearing his name instead of Shannon makes so much sense. I didn't even think about that. This just goes to show how manipulated Shannon is (Not that she isn't guilty) I believe he egged her on and encouraged her to keep going out of his obsession with Emily. It's like Shannon did these things out of a need to please Anthony and prove herself to him.. And to top it off her insecurites helped alot. I think deep down shannon know it was always going to be Emily, and Anthony strikes me as someone who made Shannon feel she had to compete. Textbook Narcissist (although Shannon could be one too) and in her twisted mind she wanted to become Emily to the point where she realized she couldn't which ignited a flame to destroy her. So much resentment toward Emily by both of them, but for different reasons.
Anthony's resentment from the fact that she was too good for him, saw through his b.s and moved on. Shannon's resentment stems from the fact that she isn't who Anthony really wanted. This is some sick lifetime movie type shit.
U're comment made me realize some things about my Dad
I've always thought his manipulative ways are just like:
= he does something bad then blames it on everyone but himself =
making me "think" i was sooo evil
But looking back, he's done so much more
He manipulated me into "doing" something w/c is really crazy
He made me lie, blamed me for poverty, made me hate my Mom & her family(talks about this from when i was 5 until the week he died), he wanted me to sign papers idk, used me to make my Mom get their marriage annulled so he'll have lots of money after, he wanted me to be with an old lawyer who is helping him(he also manipulated this lawyer) get his land,... i wasn't an angel myself but my father is so manipulative even now sometimes i think
"He is not THAT bad. I am just being too-much-of-a-victim"
My Mom didn't/can't leave Dad we're a mess but my Mom's fine coz
He's dead. But me... i am sorry for myself bcoz i feel like ive been infected. I feel like i too bcom manipulative and its such a tough battle. I feel like i have no control of my feelings and is slowly going insane
I'm scared of myself. I feel like another version of my Dad
Uknow, when my Dad died, everyone actually talks about him in a positive manner---he got debts to pay to some of these people, he talks bad about these people
Important to note that sometimes someone will manipulate him too
My Dad's mother already died when i was born but i think, base on how he talks about her. My grandma seems manipulative +land-grabber too
Manipulation ruin lives
It's hard to get out of it
I hope ill be fine before i die i don't wanna have a messed up life forever like my father
I really hope Emily, Peaches, and everyone else hurt by this person can have a nice life after all of this. It's appalling behavior and nobody deserves to go through this.
Creepshow always felt off to me from the first video of hers I watched. A person who is nice and a good person doesn't need to tell you that. She told the internet several times she was a good person. The way she dug into things and that unhinged document was definitive proof she has been the opposite of what she claims she is the whole time she has made videos.
Same. Long before this drama I got this kind of vibe from her. Like one of those people who always says "I hate drama" but is the person always going out of their way to stir up drama.
I quite quickly became tired of her videos because she was always complaining about stuff. I also didn't like how she talked; like aggressive almost, like she was always pissed off... which I now understand was exactly what she was. I hope she gets some help. Not for her own sake (I simply cannot feel sorry for her), but for the sake of people around her.
@@askthefrog Yes! I've gotten that vibe from listening to clips on these kind of videos. Completely aggressive constantly.
Creep is definitely the word I'd use for Shannon I can't believe there's been a 10 year stalking situation on the platform that's ridiculous. Shannon is definitely in the wrong for going back into someone's childhood some of us don't like to look at the just because of how dumb we were.
The fact that you can create such high production value, well researched videos with a new bebe will bever cease to amaze me! Can't wait to snuggle up with my cat and continue the rest of this video 🖤🖤
Thank you so much!! And kitty cuddles are the best 🥺💜 hope you enjoy the video
The whole Hopeless Peaches thing is proof of the stigma and misunderstanding when it comes to mental illness. I’m not sure what condition she has, but emotional states can be very volatile and change drastically over hours, days, months and years. Being suicidal isn’t always a constant state. I’ve experienced it myself many times. You’re coping with life and then suddenly go off the deep end, only to quickly gain control again. CSA always claimed to be a mental health ally, yet accuses someone of baiting when she knew absolutely nothing. I’ve worked in mental health, regardless if someone is serious or ‘doing it for attention’ aka screaming for help, it should be taken seriously. But CSA has ZERO evidence that it was the latter anyway. Hopeless Peaches went through hell because of CSA, whilst struggling to cope with a current condition. I stopped watching CSA during that time. I have a dozen other criticisms of CSA, but that took the cake.
Yes! It is especially not uncommon to be in a dark place, and then a few hours later, pretend like it never happened. I've done it so many times without even realizing. I did it today T.T I was thinking about my trauma a few hours ago, and now I'm on RUclips watching a video about CSA, acting completely like I hadn't been on the verge of tears all day. It's the whole "taking a selfie after crying" meme except real and much bigger than a selfie. I could go on about this, but I need to wake up early tomorrow.
Speaking on Hopeless Peaches, I do not know that I'd be able to make it through if I went through what she went through. She's so strong and I admire that about her.
I feel like anyone who is open and honest about their mental illnesses will eventually have to deal with accusations of "faking it". I felt a ton of sympathy for Peaches because I have been there. Dealing with Bipolar 1 is already a nightmare, but then also dealing with everyone trying to gaslight you by telling you you don't have an illness makes you feel even more sick. I know the stories of countless others who experienced the same. People who don't struggle with severe mental health issues tend to accuse others of faking it because they are projecting their own ill intent on to someone who is sick. It's extremely toxic and fucked up.
I've been in recovery for 11 years this October... honestly, one of the biggest fears I have about creating content is that my past will be dug up and used against me despite the amends that have been made and the different life that I live today. This whole situation is so bizarre...
You put it out there & it can't be used against you. Everyone has something, we've all been stupid.
I think you should remember about past with pride. Not pride in addiction but in beating it
You're such a bada$$ for kicking that mean little addict monster in the face! If anyone were to bring up your past they're just stupid. First of all: the reason someone starts using isn't because they're a sh*tty person, it's because there's some sh*t in their life, that makes them feel sh*tty. I was an addict for almost 10 years and I never met another addict who didn't have a story to tell. Secondly: addicts do stupid sh*t. Not the person who's addicted, but the addict. Thirdly: it doesn't matter what you did, it matters what you do. And what you're doing is being a total rockstar for choosing to be present in your own life and battle hardships without the "help" of substances. That's what matters.
@@askthefrog You are a TREASURE! Thank you for the reminders (to Based Boomer and Laniakea S, too!) that our past cannot be weaponized against us because we've already survived ourselves. In the context of this video, I really respect Emily as a person who continues to hold her head high! Big ups to all my fellow addicts. Recovery is possible.
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Yet another great video! Been a subscriber since you focused on anti-mlm content but I'm gladly following you along for the ride :)
On a side note, AHHHH what is the music used throughout??? (especially in the opening and conclusion) I LOVE it but Shazam doesn't recognise it - I don't think it logs copyright free stuff.
Music is usually in the description.
@@nobody-ey1pt yeah! I was sure to check there first but it’s not listed :/
@@Meppity I think it's called Benji?
Much of the music thru out the episode is Beethoven's 5th symphony. Or maybe it's the 9th, I always forget. But it's Beethoven. I don't know what the opening music is.
You made Shannon less triggering with voice mods. 😭 That woman triggered my anxiety so bad.
I love how much empathy you have in your videos. Being empathetic can be taxing. I hope you're in therapy lol. 💜
She has the most malicious affectation in her voice whenever she speaks for real, I had the creeps from her years ago within a flat second of hearing lmao
@@UltraTaka1 right? I never got into her because of it. You can hear the sneer in her voice, the venom. I thought I was reading too much into it until it all blew up but you can hear the malice.
Ikr. Even when I watched her videos she was aggressive. I always felt uncomfortable with her videos and stopped watching them because it was hard to listen. There's this one video where I remember she mentioned someone in the comments asking her to swear less and she gonad and was like I can do whatever I want. Like yeah its your channel but you don't need to be so mean about. Once she was outed as a stalker it was kinda in her character so ot wasn't a shock to me.
@@CJMGalaxy i think that’s why i stopped watching her before the controversy, she felt way too blunt and hateful
My personal red flag was when she obsessively gushed about Meghan Markle for half a video that wasn’t even about her. Meghan is a very obvious narcissist, why does she stan her?
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I remember how back then I realized that Shannon was behind the lol cow account based on her reaction. If she wasn't aware of these posts, wouldn't she act shocked about their existence or deny any knowledge of those or where they come from? Instead she immediately said that it must have been her stalker via IP spoofing, admitting the messages came from her IP.
It just sounded more like the reaction of someone who is aware of those posts already
A well deserved fall. Unfortunately, we don't see justice/karma happen as often as it should. Tbh she deserves to be held legally accountable.
Do you mean criminally charged?
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART why do you defend Shannon so much? (Genuine question)
@@talin121 honestly idk. they've gone to the point of sending me and others death threats, because i didn't feel comfortable showing support to shannon smh
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART lol hi shannon, if you're going to troll, try to be subtle.
Former Shannon fan here, and there’s absolutely no overstating how much we, as her fanbase, trusted her at the very least to be a considerate and progressive person. The reason I gravitated towards her channel, even when she shifted to a new style of drama content, was because she was very casual with her viewers, like we were listening to a friend talk about some drama they’d experienced recently. She made it a point to be inclusive of all identities and that’s why I felt safe and believed the initial hacker story, hook line and sinker. Then it comes out that she’s been saying all this bigoted bs, using slurs she has no right to reclaim, and just in general being the absolute definition of a high school bully. Her last hurrah before she released the “comeback” to Emily was a video talking about the history of pride AFTER she’d been found out, like some sort of last ditch effort to prove that she cared about marginalized communities. It was all very insulting and horrible to watch in real time, you really had to be there to get the full scope of this mass betrayal and sudden shift of public opinion. Nowhere near what Emily went through, I know, but still worth mentioning how good she was at getting people to believe her lies and buy her fabricated persona as reality.
This reflects my experience too. She portrayed herself as so genuinely, *actively* progressive and inclusive. 😔
AAHHH me being a BIG fan of "art tube" I'm so thankful you have decided to cover this.. because Shannon is CRAZY. 😱😣
It’s a fascinating and unsettling story!
Funny “not funny” but you had an issue with iilluminaughtii in the past, and made this video about Creepyshow Art and now people are saying they are the only and the same: you should do a follow up 🙏🏾❤️
Never thought the woman I watched as background noise was a stalker
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART She is. The evidence is irrefutable. Give up.
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART oh my god, shut the eff up at this point. wasn't sending me death threats enough???
@STAN CREEPSHOW ART she is lol she just weird “creepshow” she is a creep
me too i was littarly gobsmacked
I had been following Emily for years and Shannon was in my recommendations like lice and seeing this all unfold in real time (including Emily mentioning her stalker before she even named her) was like being in an avalanche
I had a stalker in high school, and they'd break into my house all the time and steal my underwear and leave notes under my pillow, in my drawers, in pockets of my jeans, etc. They stalked me for close to 4 years, and the last thing they did(that I'm aware) was they put a dead chicken in a bag and put it in my mailbox, and said it was my aborted baby(I've never had an abortion) and they stole 4 of my dads guns that same time. To this day, I'd really like to know who it was, but I know I'll never find out who it was.
*Edit* We did notify the cops, both before the guns were stolen and after. They never came up anywhere, but the cops and pawn shop had the serial numbers and descriptions and everything.
I have a feeling that it was your dad or someone who was really close to you.
@@ridita5221 agreed no way would the cops not be involved in the theft of 4 guns unless dad was covering for someone. Possibly a friend or family member of the dad who had known mental health issues/delusions
Um your parents didnt want to move? Im sorry u had to experience this. I would be so terrified.
@@ridita5221 right cause why didnt they get alarm system and surveillance for someone breaking in "all the time"? But ive watched obessesion on id discovery and ive seen cases of the stalker breaking in a few times. So its possible. But Idk y her parents didnt do something. In the cases im mentioning, the women lived alone. Listen im not playing about my child. If someone comes through my house, theyre declaring they dont want to live.
@@Angel-gp6tx my dad had built that house, and I didn't tell him everything that was happening, just some of it because I felt like it was my fault somehow.
Also, this was in Juneau, Alaska in the early 2000s when I was in high school. Security systems weren't a big thing at the time, and my dad had no clue how bad it really was because I was too embarrassed to tell him they stole my panties and bras, and left notes in my underwear drawer n stuff. Idk why, but at the time I felt like I did something to make someone mad, and deserved it.
Having a cleaning day and was bummed I had nothing good to watch. Refreshed my page and this was just uploaded and I’ve never been so excited!!! Love your work, love the length, love you!
Aw I’m so glad! Hope you enjoy the video!!
Y'know what's scary? Plotting the downfall of another RUclipsr because they're gaining popularity and surpassiing your fame, that feels awfully familiar & I could understand that. I was sorta "popular" for a few years back in deviantART and whenever the artists I envy gain more praise or got more popular than me I got angry & either blast them on my journal or copied their artworks, cuz I was an envious copycat. But that was the mid-late 2000s. I was a dumb teenager, and being that catty & competitive was still "the norm" 10 yrs ago. Cant believe some people still behave this way in the now.
Also the part with peppering those lolcow posts with homophobic/transphobic language. I can understand why. In Shannon's mind she's "disguising/impersonating someone who posts regularly on lolcow" and not as herself, cuz "oh i would never say those things so people wouldnt expect I posted those things" but they did. lol.
I come back to these videos covering this situation from time to time, and it still blows my mind how hard Shannon tried, and failed spectacularly, to become Emily. Emily has an art based RUclips channel- Shannon creates an art based RUclips channel. Emily uploads videos showing her drawing/sketching while telling stories- Shannon starts making videos where she’s drawing/sketching while telling stories. Emily has a stalker- Shannon ends up with a stalker. Emily is able to use I.P. addresses to her advantage when dealing with her stalker- Shannon tries to use I.P. addresses to…oh, well shit…Shannon ends up outing herself with the I.P. address b.s. Obviously Shannon wasn’t bright enough to get away with the lies. Perhaps she was jealous of the “hold” that Emily had on Anthony. So she thought that if she made herself into Emily, Anthony would shift his attention to her rather than Emily. Whatever the reason, Shannon was doing everything in her power to turn herself into Emily. But Emily was a much better human being overall and that just wasn’t something Shannon could mimic.
The way she attacks even the fans who were saying "oh we still want you to come back" for some reason really, really pisses me off. It's like she had to attack EVERY ONE.
Not that this is worse than what she did to Emily but my God, you had to attack even the people who STILL wanted to support you?
I missed that part. I guess i shouldnt have been blowdrying my hair while watching subtitles
@@Angel-gp6tx it was at the very end of her response video.
I don’t think those “fans” exist, she actually used their hypothetical existence to take the moral high ground (as always) and act like she is so above supporting horrible people.
@@biomutant1468 that makes sense
@@Angel-gp6tx yep go to the very end after she texts hipster and then she goes after the people who went to her and said oh Blair I trust you I don't think you're lying, even if you did do the stuff on kiwi Farms I still think your art is great and stuff similar to that and to them she freaked out on them told them they needed to get a life to go out and touch grass and never ever message her again or even think about her because they are pathetic
I'm not saying that those were her exact words but that was the gist of what she said and I know she said go touch grass and called them pathetic oh and losers
A thing that I don't see being brought up that often is that Shannon claimed that when Emily said she had been sober for 3 years in *September 2016*, it would therefore mean she started being sober around November *2012* (1:27:38 on the video)
But anyone who knows basic math will know that the real date would have been Semptember *2013* (2016-3=2013). Shanon just pretends not to know basic math and hopes no one will notice and pretends that 3 years before 2016 would be 2012 to claim that Emily couldn't possibly be intoxicated in 2013 which is when she said the ass*ult took place
Trying to defend someone who commited sa is gross enough, doing so by deliberately twisting a victim's words to fit a narrative is just abhorrent
also...Emily herself talked about how it's not unusual for addicts to lie about still being sober...that's part of the cycle.
@@TehMomo_ Yeah but the video Shannon used as proof that Emily lied about it wasn’t posted in 2015 like Shannon claimed. It was kinda funny because you could see the post date of that video in Shannon’s video and it compleatly debunked the claimes Shannon herself had been making for such along time winding up to giving us the «proof». Like it would have been sad if Shannon wasnt being so malicious that I couldn’t feel bad for her.
As someone who had a stalker just seeing creepshow's name brings shivers down my spine. I don't understand and is terrified of this sort of obsessive person.
This is one of the best "drama" videos I've ever seen. No sensationalism, no villainizing, just well reasoned and compassionate coverage. This is the first video of yours I've seen and I'm sold tbh, great job 🌻
It was so frustrating to see the little lies Shannon and Anthony directly slipped in to misdirect. The one that always frustrated me the most was the "3 years in November" song Emily posted in 2016. Of all the commentary I watched, almost no one mentioned it and I was so relived that Emily herself caught it. She was SO ADAMANT that Emily was "sober" in 2012 to clear Anthony that she had to make up her own math, but because she said it with her whole chest, people just couldn't hear how wrong it was. When has 2016-3 ever been 2012?? Aaaaa
Two videos days apart? And lengthy? Love it here.
Thank you love!! 🥺💜 I’ve been trying to make content more frequently it’s just challenging with the length and details in the videos. Hope you enjoy them!!
@@cruelworldhappymind yes totally understand! Videos this long require thoughtful planning and attention to details!! Absolutely appreciate it. 🥰
@@cruelworldhappymind it is hard to do especially when you have a kid on the way or your have to feed your infant.
This emoji is adorable
Also with Brita Filter - that is the name of a S12 Rupaul’s Drag Race Queen. I remember watching a video of Shannon in which she was drawing another S12 Queen, Crystal Methyd.
Always thought it was funny how most people that cover this story seem to not know about Brita Filter 😅
Also, I feel like she chose to use Brita's name cos Brita was widely disliked during her time on RPDR
there's a video of shannon's where she even shows that account, i don't remember in what context, but i do remember seeing the clip
Omg I couldn't stand her when she was at her peak. She thought she could just throw her opinions around that were so easily seen as ridiculous.
The prison guy sounds almost angry that Peaches didn't unlike herself. So weird.
It's just absolutely sad and pathetic that a woman would join in on stalking an ex of your husbands. If my husband were to do something like this, I would kick his ass out of the house. Obviously, she was jealous over the fact that her husband was still obsessed with another woman. Truth is, they are children trying to pretend that they are adults. Most adults don't have time for this petty junior high school BS.
Me: someone who somehow knows nothing about this topic
Also Me: watches this video intensely
Love your videos queen! 👑
I'm the same with this channel. 😂
There's been coverage of a lot of RUclipsrs I knew zero about until I was educated here.
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Same. I don't know anything about the ppl she talks about. Sometimes I don't even know their names, like this time, but I love watching her vids about these crazies.
I genuinely like listening to your voice while I game or painting my models.. So thanks for your videos and all the work you put into them.
Aw thank you so much!
Agreed! Her voice is so completely calming. Now I have things to listen to while I make jewelry/draw.
Same! I have a Playlist of her videos I use for sleep when I'm taking a break from ASMR.
It’s like the art community saw everything going on in the beauty community & pulled a hold-my-beer. I’m glad Emily got to speak her truth though & I hope she finally gets some peace. Shannon needs to be banned by every wifi provider on earth.
It says a whole lot about Emily’s character that she thought that Shannon was also a victim instead of immediately thinking that Shannon was harassing her to.
YES 🙌🏼
girl, let me just tell you….I have never been so excited to see a creator upload a video on a particular topic in my whole life 😍🍿
Aw thank you!! Hope you enjoy the video! 💜
@@cruelworldhappymind I always do 😏
I hope Shannon gets the help she needs and is able to recover and give Emily a genuine apology. Stalking is rooted in self-hatred and insecurity.
I honestly don't think I hope for than anymore. I think after all this, she is beyond retribution
@@talb.1805 I think she deserves the option if she does the work in therapy. None of this will be easy.
shannon deserves prison time, shes an absolute fruitcake
Narcissists and antisocials don't recover
@@laniakeas92 Where's your doctorate from?