Refreshing an 80s VOLKSWAGEN engine | Volkswagen Golf Mk1 Engine swap

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  • Опубликовано: 22 май 2019
  • In part 2 of the Golf Mk1 engine swap series the 'new' engine was presented. In this video you can see the entire process of what the 1.8L has gone through from when i got it to where i showed it to you guys in episode 2.
    Disclaimer: This was the first time I did a project like this so be gentle in the comments :)
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  • @RetrocarStyle
    @RetrocarStyle 4 года назад +9

    I remember these SOHC 8V engines. I built a couple of these. The German spec 9A ( here in the States ) was the engine to have if you wanted a good build. It came with the 10.1:1 CR pistons. Stout little engines but they do better as turbocharged units. Nowadays if I were to build one I would skip these and go for the 1.8T...same engine just with 5 valve head. The make nice projects!! Would make an MK1 go like the wind!! Glad to see someone is still into these older cars. They have so much more character than the new Volkswagens.

  • @rafaelcarvalho9818
    @rafaelcarvalho9818 4 года назад +23

    Here in Brazil, this engine is know as AP and it was used by VW until 2005 if I'm not mistaken. Very reliable engine.

    • @eoquimporta1430
      @eoquimporta1430 3 года назад +2

      Eu acho que os ap só foram feitos no Brasil, na Europa é outra referência

    • @GuilhermeMetz
      @GuilhermeMetz 3 года назад +2

      @@eoquimporta1430 É a sigla EA, se não me engano é EA837 e EA827 nesses carros

    • @GustavoPereira-kw6nq
      @GustavoPereira-kw6nq 3 года назад +2

      Tem gente que chama os MI de AP tbm, esse aí é APzao tbm igual do meu Seat 97

    • @user-og7uv9jd7s
      @user-og7uv9jd7s Год назад +1

      ​@@GuilhermeMetz
      O Motor AP de primeira geração era chamado EA827, já o de segunda geração era o famoso EA113

    • @user-og7uv9jd7s
      @user-og7uv9jd7s Год назад +1

      Motor AP foi fabricado em sua segunda geração (EA113) até 2016, a primeira geração (EA827) foi produzida até 2009

  • @vijayantgovender2045
    @vijayantgovender2045 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for sharing your wonderful videos I am from South Africa

  • @gustavodelmarchi4967
    @gustavodelmarchi4967 4 года назад +4

    Here in Brazil this engine is legendary, it's called A.P. (Alta Performance (High Performance)), i have one in my VW Passat 1.8 1986 and works pretty well. Sorry if I wrote something wrong, i'm drunk as fuck right now. PASSAT TURBÃO 3KILIMEI .

  • @mislavmatkovic8180
    @mislavmatkovic8180 4 года назад +51

    Since you went so far as removing the valve cover and changing the belt pulley, you could also replace the belt and remove the cylinder head to check the valves and cylinder walls. You could have removed the oil sump and checked the oil pump. All in all a great job done with all the tin parts.

    • @dennygti
      @dennygti 4 года назад +1

      i igree!

    • @oseo943
      @oseo943 4 года назад +6

      and water pump change...

    • @joshuatassone8764
      @joshuatassone8764 4 года назад +4

      The cylinder head bolts of this engine deform when being tightened. So you would have to buy new ones if you want to remove the head.

    • @ricky107_
      @ricky107_ 3 года назад +3

      @@joshuatassone8764 that's weird are they meant to?

    • @joshuatassone8764
      @joshuatassone8764 3 года назад +2

      @@ricky107_ Based on my knowledge, yes.

  • @Fabio-jm9jq
    @Fabio-jm9jq 4 года назад +5

    Nice work. For a complete work, you can clean the pistons, replace the head gasket and bearings. A lot of cars used this engine here in Brasil, in 90's was common a 1.8s ethanol version, with 12.3:1 of compression and Pierburg 2E, they came with 106cv from factory.

  • @BATCHMAN_0
    @BATCHMAN_0 4 года назад +7

    That model of engine was the heart of almost all VW models here in Brazil from the 70's until 2010's and many people associate the decay of VW here because they don't use it anymore. If you search for "AP Engine" or "AP Engine Turbo" here on youtube you're going to get tons of brazilian videos about that engine.

  • @JayJay-cv2no
    @JayJay-cv2no 4 года назад +3

    These are good strong reliable engines, had one in my jetta mk2 in South Africa. Done a mp9 fuel injection on it after a while and ran strong as hell!

  • @thiscocks
    @thiscocks 3 года назад +2

    Had this engine in my MK2 Golf GL. Went really well. Only problem I had was having to replace the plastic carb manifold mounting several times as they like to split. 90hp and decent torque.

  • @analoggeneration385
    @analoggeneration385 5 лет назад +9

    Your channel is awesome!! Great editing and I love your accents!! Keep the videos coming. I am working on a 1980 mk1 Convertible myself on my channel.

  • @garymucher9590
    @garymucher9590 3 года назад +1

    How can you not like a clean engine? A clean engine runs cooler and therefore longer. Thumbs Up. I think I would have changed the timing belt as well, myself. A ton easier then when it is installed...

  • @orionstar6747
    @orionstar6747 3 года назад +2

    This young lad did an awesome work, he is talented for his age, and all I read are silly comments below...Keep up the good work, great editing also.

  • @LegendArtzz
    @LegendArtzz 4 года назад +2

    Nice. But here's a tip: Before polishing anything, make sure it's cleaned first. The valve cover you should wire brushed first then polishing that way you would had the polished bright look that you were looking for! But keep doing what you're doing because we all start somewere!

  • @risto124
    @risto124 4 года назад +1

    Now it is nice and clean for a mechanic to work with.

  • @Bazukax
    @Bazukax 3 года назад +3

    Good job on the refresh. I would suggest wearing safety glasses when working with that drill brush, as those individual metal strands sometimes shoot out.

  • @DimitrisTheodopoulos
    @DimitrisTheodopoulos 4 года назад +18

    you forgat something.... vavle cover and replace head gasket..... so much work without the most important one....

  • @kuldipxxxpanesar
    @kuldipxxxpanesar 3 года назад +1

    24:28 that’s the best feeling when working with old cars and sheared bolts. Couldn’t have put it better “Nice”.

  • @letrasmais4215
    @letrasmais4215 4 года назад +2

    In Brazil this is the most prepared engine for high power. called "AP" alta potência and came out in several cars of own brand: gol mk1 mk2 mk3 mk4, Santana mk1 mk2, Passat b1, Apollo, polo classic, Jetta mk6, golf mk3 and mk4, Voyage mk1, Saveiro mk1 mk2 mk3 mk4, parati mk1 mk2 mk3 mk4, pointer, Logus, van And diesel version as in Kombi and Saveiro

  • @HavokTheorem
    @HavokTheorem 4 года назад +3

    I don't think I've seen a direct acting overhead cam IRL before. Nice!

  • @antekaramatic3382
    @antekaramatic3382 4 года назад +2

    stoped playing Heroes of Might and Magic 3 to watch this ..beautifull to watch...freakin cool

  • @sneaks01
    @sneaks01 4 года назад

    Nice work! Just discovered your channel. Look forward to more!

  • @user-dk6hl5oq7y
    @user-dk6hl5oq7y 4 года назад +5

    Помыл движок и всё, теперь потащит как новый!!! А вы что незнали ?, вот вам наглядный ролик😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

    • @bohriss
      @bohriss 4 года назад +1

      @dima kosmonavt этот двигатель не убидь ничем. Он всегда хорошо тянет, ну на сколько 90лс могут.
      Хотя если дать его рукажопам, то они и его угробят.

  • @pieterfranke
    @pieterfranke 3 года назад +1

    Alleen de thumbnail is al een duimpje waard, goed bezig kerel!

  • @adumitroaiesebastian2082
    @adumitroaiesebastian2082 4 года назад +2

    Great work. Congrads!

  • @vaiper2905
    @vaiper2905 4 года назад +1

    I have to do this to my mk2 1.8..god work bro 👍.

  • @tymoteuszs1614
    @tymoteuszs1614 4 года назад +67

    12:00 wear a mask! Don't breath in this aluminum dust!

  • @mr.gonzalez1991
    @mr.gonzalez1991 3 года назад +1

    Great job and skills!! Hope I can have this done on mine

  • @TheJvorte
    @TheJvorte 3 года назад

    Nice job! the engine looks much better👍

  • @harshabiliangady3211
    @harshabiliangady3211 4 года назад +2

    You’ve done great job. In future show us more of what you did on the inside of the engine.

  • @aliensprtcrico
    @aliensprtcrico Год назад +1

    Amazing work

  • @gumerovomg
    @gumerovomg 4 года назад +1

    Very nice work!

  • @davidconde1521
    @davidconde1521 4 года назад +25

    This is the most bulletproof VW 4 banger known to mankind!!!! IMO

    • @acolexa
      @acolexa 4 года назад +2

      Correct.

    • @Pain5k
      @Pain5k 4 года назад +3

      dont forget the 1.9 TDI

    • @acolexa
      @acolexa 4 года назад +3

      @@Pain5k in terms of reliability older engines are better even though they might be more pollutant and lacking technology, my grandpa had a 1.6 diesel passat b2 that engine was a tank, car got scrapped unfortunately

    • @jasonhooey5677
      @jasonhooey5677 4 года назад +2

      Yea, and that's not saying much either.

    • @niwe11
      @niwe11 4 года назад +3

      @@Pain5k and 1.6 8V, 1.8T, 1.6D, 1.9D, 2.4D, R5 2.5Tdi...

  • @nicholasvonrhine541
    @nicholasvonrhine541 4 года назад +1

    Outstanding.

  • @Mario-po9vu
    @Mario-po9vu 4 года назад

    Nice Work!!!

  • @TonyMontana-mf2mw
    @TonyMontana-mf2mw 4 года назад +1

    Bravo ricorda che gli grandi della historia se la hanno fatto del passione e ingenio. .complimenti ragazzo..

  • @MrCryptoGamer
    @MrCryptoGamer 4 года назад +4

    that engine is called AP, there is 1.6, 1.8, 1.9 and 2.0 versions. it's the most popular engine here in Brazil, cuz it can hold high presures of turbo, it's really cheap and u can find it anywhere. we have cars with almost 2000 HP using this engine.

    • @vdubskiee5356
      @vdubskiee5356 3 года назад +1

      i really would LOVE to know how your getting 2000hp out of a 8v 1.6 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @MrCryptoGamer
      @MrCryptoGamer 3 года назад +1

      @@vdubskiee5356 well then search for the AP engine and enjoy :)

  • @CarlsGarage
    @CarlsGarage 4 года назад

    Bro! So dope

  • @kpdesignersatwork7631
    @kpdesignersatwork7631 Год назад +1

    Great job, it will be great if the garden is protected too from oils and cleaning products not only the engine ;)

  • @RestoDesignsnando
    @RestoDesignsnando 4 года назад +1

    Nice project.

  • @scottdoubleyou563
    @scottdoubleyou563 4 года назад +1

    I'm most concerned with the spark plug threads for cyl. #2. Were they galled up, or was that just the plug?

  • @xZeroStrikerx
    @xZeroStrikerx 4 года назад

    Nice job! 👌👌👌

  • @ilqarquliyev492
    @ilqarquliyev492 4 года назад

    excellent skill very good video 👍🏻

  • @Levi2789
    @Levi2789 4 года назад +1

    Satisfying to watch

  • @111brc
    @111brc 4 года назад

    Looks nice )

  • @Lesnz2009
    @Lesnz2009 4 года назад

    Agree, the Sparkplug threads are definitely unhappy and sad :(. A lot of work involved and think some people do not realise just hard it is doing this kind of project. And of course, we always need the ubiquitous can(s) of WD40 or Equivalent, I know I have used up many a can in my time doing projects like this. Usually helping my mates.

  • @jamesconnors4297
    @jamesconnors4297 8 месяцев назад

    you might be the right person to ask. i'm looking to convert a manual mk1 engine to automatic. besides the gear box what else do i need ? thanks

  • @leonardogrevenhagen6866
    @leonardogrevenhagen6866 4 года назад +15

    engine AP 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0. His in Brazil the engine is very good. "AP" Alta Performance.

    • @lk0234
      @lk0234 3 года назад

      Apzero kkkkkk

    • @onadademais5683
      @onadademais5683 3 года назад

      No Brasil e em todo o lado 😅😂🇵🇹🇵🇹 tamos juntos

    • @thenewells6411
      @thenewells6411 2 года назад

      En Argentina *AP o Audi*

    • @frannicogallardo
      @frannicogallardo 2 года назад

      @@thenewells6411 hice un swap de un motor ap 2.0 muy buenos resultados, repuestos un poco caros pero hay de todo

  • @tigernicelava5642
    @tigernicelava5642 4 года назад

    Good job

  • @lesleymothapo2138
    @lesleymothapo2138 2 года назад

    Nice job boss

  • @user-lp3bc1sb9z
    @user-lp3bc1sb9z 2 года назад

    Hi I just in middle on this project and I not find mount Engine and gear box you know wher I can buy mount

  • @byfunkyoid2917
    @byfunkyoid2917 Год назад

    I know this was a while ago but how long did it take to do? I’ve got same engine in a VW Scirocco Mk2 and it’s my daily ride. Could this be done in a weekend do you think? Thanks 🙏

  • @nilsbogdanovs6302
    @nilsbogdanovs6302 3 месяца назад

    Hey, just wanted to ask, do these also come in golf mk2? and if they do, they fit well etc. right?

  • @RSx94
    @RSx94 4 года назад

    Oh man! I had a Golf Mk2 with an 1,6 75 HP engine, which is basically the same as this one (except for some internal things).

  • @jamescartwright387
    @jamescartwright387 2 года назад

    The bracket that you removed around 9:33, does anyone know what it is for? I've worked on this motor myself and never seen it before.

  • @cars3939i
    @cars3939i 3 года назад

    How is possible to put distributor in position I have remove wrong way Audi 80 1.8s

  • @gpowerdragon9852
    @gpowerdragon9852 4 года назад +2

    toch een mooi resultaat

    • @marcvs9992
      @marcvs9992 4 года назад +1

      Ja hè, maar ik zou toch de distributieriem vervangen hebben

  • @walteralcantara5998
    @walteralcantara5998 4 года назад +3

    This engine is very popular in Brasil, we call this motor A.P.

    • @sunnydoes7200
      @sunnydoes7200 3 года назад

      Why A.P

    • @fraggzor
      @fraggzor 3 года назад

      @@sunnydoes7200 A.P means ("alta performance" translated to English is "High performance".

  • @FhVW
    @FhVW 3 года назад

    Hey, welk spul gebruik je in spuitbus om mee te ontvetten? remmenreiniger?

  • @user-co8iz2ng4u
    @user-co8iz2ng4u 3 месяца назад

    You are good Mechanic

  • @zia.g63
    @zia.g63 4 года назад

    what is that spray, he is using for opening the bolts?

  • @baptiste7533
    @baptiste7533 2 года назад

    Hello and thank you for the video, where did you find the screw that tightens the belt cover? Mine is damaged. Thanks Memphis (at 28 min 28 sec) 😁

  • @wissammustafa6558
    @wissammustafa6558 4 года назад

    Hi man nice work

  • @dinatarkteruz
    @dinatarkteruz 2 года назад

    Is it missing a camshaft journal cap between cylinder 3 and 4?

  • @Lukaszmajamen
    @Lukaszmajamen 3 месяца назад

    Kiedyś miałem VW GOLF 3 z silnikiem 1.8 GT 90KM ABT, teraz mam AUDI 80 B4 2.0 90KM ABT. W Audi zrobiłem remont silnika. Pracuję w autoszlifie.
    I used to have a VW GOLF 3 with a 1.8 GT 90KM ABT engine, now I have an AUDI 80 B4 2.0 90KM ABT. I overhauled the engine at Audi. I work in a car repair shop.

  • @rocharox
    @rocharox 4 года назад

    great video.
    be sure to wear PPE when dealing with oil or fuel.

  • @takieddine1605
    @takieddine1605 5 месяцев назад

    good job thanks

  • @higor_gdv5305
    @higor_gdv5305 3 года назад +3

    Famoso motor ap aqui no Brasil muito bom esse motor é usado pricipalmente em provas de arrancada por aguentar muito as pressão dos turbos

  • @danskFF
    @danskFF 2 года назад

    nice work dUdE -_-

  • @MehLewH
    @MehLewH 2 года назад

    I found a total gem of a engine!
    A 1600 engine for sale for only 250 euro’s! Sadly it does not come with a transmission. I have a build project coming up in 2 years time which is perfect with engine like this, but should I go for it? I am mostly just afraid to miss out on a engine like this.

  • @nqobulwazikhanye106
    @nqobulwazikhanye106 3 года назад

    Hello please may I have the list of chemical and tools used to clean it to look like this

  • @clintbrown9596
    @clintbrown9596 4 года назад

    hI guys wonder if you can help, I have Fiat Uno 1100 1999 model.close on 275000 km on the clock. runs like a dream. on the freeway. BUT idles far too high when at stop street or stuck in traffic. was serviced recently and I thought it was the choke that was stuck. Had carb serviced a few months back. guy did a great job. starts easy , dont even need the choke anymore to start it . But none of the mechanics can get the idle down to normal. the last garage said that the carb is " over fuelling ".. or something like that. all I know is its just costing me plenty but Id like to keep the car as a great little " run around ". what does it sound like to you ?

  • @chrum91
    @chrum91 2 года назад

    So did you take the engine apart and rebuild it or just clean the outside?.....

  • @Tomaz88
    @Tomaz88 4 года назад

    Why you not change crankshaft oil seal? Its leaking...

  • @2Chaniz
    @2Chaniz 5 лет назад +1

    When are you going to post the final video of the swap??

    • @memphis5220
      @memphis5220  5 лет назад +1

      Somewhere along next week, im currently held up by my exams

  • @LOPdesigner
    @LOPdesigner 4 года назад +22

    Damn! All this work and didn't you change the head gasket???

    • @vdubskiee5356
      @vdubskiee5356 3 года назад

      i said the same thing lol 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @Ash1983.
      @Ash1983. 3 года назад +2

      He can easily do it when it’s back in the car when or if it’s it’s gone tho

  • @thejakebarnes1
    @thejakebarnes1 4 года назад +54

    refreshing...does that mean cleaning and painting? I was hoping for more of a mechanical rebuild.

    • @Loni.32
      @Loni.32 4 года назад +2

      @Jeroen it dosent matter how clean it looks , i mean with REFRESH i thought they will open the whole Motor and clean it inside.

    • @Rosigee
      @Rosigee 4 года назад +2

      Even Worst that he doesn't care about the inviromantal impact of disposing that cleaningspray outside on the lawn.

    • @tyrone-leegordon4349
      @tyrone-leegordon4349 4 года назад

      Thank God this comment is high up, was hoping for a mechanical rebuild as well and this just saved me a few minutes that would have gone wasted

    • @killerdinamo08
      @killerdinamo08 3 года назад +2

      That would be a rebuilding...

  • @szosiu7823
    @szosiu7823 4 года назад +2

    And inside ?

  • @brunobrazuka
    @brunobrazuka 4 года назад +2

    The most famous engine in Brazil, AP 1.8.

  • @ruslantkachenko3799
    @ruslantkachenko3799 4 года назад +2

    У меня в 90 х был Фольксваген Пассат и Ауди с таким мотором 1.6. Хороший мотор, неприхотлив. А сейчас куча датчиков, которые якобы следят за окружающей средой.

  • @AK-Star007
    @AK-Star007 3 года назад

    u did great

  • @pablosway
    @pablosway 2 месяца назад

    i had that engine too but in my mk3 golf gl from the 99

  • @mk4boi948
    @mk4boi948 5 лет назад

    Found your videos yesterday, they’re great! Looking at mk1s now, my final goal is a 2.0 with a 1.8 head in a cabrio or 4 door golf

    • @dvrklo8335
      @dvrklo8335 4 года назад

      mk4boi I have a 86 2 door

  • @larshammett
    @larshammett 3 года назад +3

    Someone else was waiting for the tear apart too?

  • @bnana8885
    @bnana8885 4 года назад +41

    this job added 50 hp to the engine

    • @user-dn6qy1ou1f
      @user-dn6qy1ou1f 4 года назад +1

      This engine barely had over 50 how from the factory

    • @warika1208
      @warika1208 4 года назад +18

      He didn't add squat, except make the engine look cleaner...not a single performance enhancing job was done to it, and by reusing the old timing belt after slopping chemicals all over it he may well have shortened the life of the engine.

    • @leehuntley189
      @leehuntley189 4 года назад +3

      Some of us are broke but still wanna have nice things

    • @nicostenfors5690
      @nicostenfors5690 4 года назад +1

      @@user-dn6qy1ou1f It had 90hp from factory you dummy

    • @dodgeplow
      @dodgeplow 3 года назад

      @@warika1208 the original comment flew right over your head.

  • @chadwickseeley
    @chadwickseeley 4 года назад

    I don't suppose you have a list of all the cleaning stuff you used? I saw a lot of WD40 but wondered if you used other stuff also? Cheers. Great video btw.

  • @badtheboy
    @badtheboy 4 года назад

    I cant feel how much force your putting on that ratchet, but by the looks of it; looks like alot. And I'm a amazed that little thing can handle it without busting the gears. Seems like a 1/4" ratchet?

  • @ericknauss2080
    @ericknauss2080 3 года назад

    Nice outside restauration but what happened inside of the engine ?

  • @robertglover2497
    @robertglover2497 3 года назад

    you wouldn't happen to have a intake manifold for a carbureted 1.8cc?

  • @Jiggus
    @Jiggus 2 года назад

    How do you remove the hedhehog?

  • @EmanuelPCA
    @EmanuelPCA 4 года назад

    whow where you buy this whrench?, i think if you do the necesary forse can unbolt the head

  • @ernestsriekstins5681
    @ernestsriekstins5681 4 года назад

    Why didn’t you changed the runing parts?

  • @patrickcannell2258
    @patrickcannell2258 4 года назад

    I still ride a 1400 version. 240 000km never opened. No oil usage. Recently did the clutch myself. If I were him with the engine out , I would have done the clutch, water pump and head gasket. But first compression test.

  • @lamasalamasa1080
    @lamasalamasa1080 4 года назад +1

    That engine with the 1.6 Diésel Crankshaft and 10psi can take 180hp STD
    Here in Argentina we have the Volkswagen Gol AP 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0i GTI (GOLF 3 engine)
    Its the equivalent of a Civic in USA
    Currently we have the fastest Front wheel drive Record in the World by Team Viturro Argentina with a VW GOL G4 1200+hp its a beast (1.8T 20v Jetta engine)

  • @hussssshie
    @hussssshie 3 года назад +1

    If that cover is right (197k KM) then first things in the list would be the head gasket and main seals, and check for cylinder scoring. Perhaps it needs honing and oversized components.
    Keeping the engine clean on the outside and overlooking the inside ain't the way to go. That's how you get catastrophic failures down the road. You'll never know how the cylinder walls looked like.
    Not criticizing because we all started trying to make things better with a couple rugs, but that engine got pulled out for a reason.
    If you don't have a torque wrench and that's why you decided to stay out of it, your local machine shop can torque the head down for you and typically free of charge if you give them the torque specs and sequence.

  • @TheMalskey
    @TheMalskey 4 года назад +3

    13:06 just disassemble all and sandblast!

  • @davan278
    @davan278 4 года назад +46

    Great video!
    Since you went this far, why not replace the head gasket? Given by the looks, the engine probably has never been opened.

    • @vielflieger7973
      @vielflieger7973 4 года назад +6

      Because he is a stupid Kid.

    • @BigBossKollegah08
      @BigBossKollegah08 4 года назад +4

      @@vielflieger7973 und du ein troll

    • @vielflieger7973
      @vielflieger7973 4 года назад

      @@BigBossKollegah08 Klappspaten

    • @BigBossKollegah08
      @BigBossKollegah08 4 года назад

      @@vielflieger7973 Sag ja Troll armes kleines Würstchen :D

    • @vielflieger7973
      @vielflieger7973 4 года назад

      @@BigBossKollegah08 Bastel weiter an deiner Gehhilfe und lass die Erwachsenen in Ruhe.
      Kleines A.....loch

  • @nbdcbn
    @nbdcbn 4 года назад

    Would love to do something like this

  • @stalkergamesful
    @stalkergamesful 4 года назад +10

    24:29 *N O I C E*

  • @jamesball8966
    @jamesball8966 4 года назад +1

    Great video mate but showing 197k would’ve done engine overall

  • @tobiasb6556
    @tobiasb6556 4 года назад

    15:32 a tip is to hammer on a 12 point socket and lose it with an impact machine.