Why don’t we see these brutal LEGAL moves in MMA?
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- Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2023
- Q&A with the Coach. Why don’t we see moves in the UFC that are legal, and seem very brutal, but never seem to happen?
Well, it turns out that fighting in movies looks very different from fighting in real life.
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I fought professionally in Mixed Martial arts, Sanda, Muay Thai, K1 and American kickboxing from 2004-2011 when I was forced to retire due to a broken skull and being blinded in one eye. I hold a brown belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Black belts in multiple traditional martial arts, including Taekwondo and kyokushin karate. I also train in catch wrestling, sambo, taijiquan, judo, and boxing.
I currently coach at the Animal MMA gym, the Extreme Fight Lab, and the Mordor Fight Club, all in Shanghai, China. 
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2:40 As a traditional practitioner of Chinese martial arts that has trained in tiger style, I just wanted to chime in here. The grabbing and ripping skin is only in movies. We DO NOT ever practice any thing like that. The closest we do is maybe raking across someone's face to distract them as part of a set up for something else.
Tiger style is mostly using your fingers to grab stuff like a forearm, hair, jacket lapels, and so on. We're just a tad better at it from working on finger pushups, that's all. And a lot of palm strikes are used.
Let me stress that again, the skin ripping is only in movies.
I'm also a tiger style guy, and I've had a Sifu tell me that he would disable someone by pressure point attacking their elbow with a tiger claw. I was like, "Okay, please do that to me. I will stand here and not resist at all. Please do it to me right now." He tried it. It was... mildly uncomfortable. What's worse is he demonstrated it on another student and they compliantly fell on the ground! So many Kung Fu people are brainwashing themselves to believe in ridiculous stuff like this! Your breakdown of the real use of tiger claws is spot on btw
What about them Chi Blasts 😮??
1 finger death punch 😮?
There is truth to it but trust me it’s definitely a case of not letting the truth get in the way of good stories. I dunno about ripping off skin but I have had points grabbed that caused debilitating pain. It didn’t last long but it lasted long enough…..
That said, to perform these to any degree of efficiency require an amount of practice no normal wants to put themselves thru.
Mantis Kung fu has entered the chat. Don’t get me started on the hooks and people thinking we do nerve strikes
It is possible and has happened, but unless we're talking of professional rock climbers or longbow archers, humans don't have the grip strength for the most part. You are far more likely to see such injuries if you anger a chimpanzee...
This is like a greatest hits of martial arts forum posts from 2005.
Hahahaha! How true!
Shinya Aoki broke a dudes arm while trying to do a throw once, they classified it as a standing armbar in the Shinya Aoki Vs Keith Wisniewski fight in 2005.
@user-dt7px5xp6z that's my reaction to most of his fights. Japanese Diaz brother with insane fighting style.
Aoki the limb snapper.
That's a good example. Not only of a break happening in that way, but also that you need to be as good as Shinya Aoki to pull it off.
Aoki has broken many limbs. He's not aiming for a tap, he's aiming for the break.
@@angelsjoker8190 He sure don't mind sending people to the hospital.
The absolute copium of TMA guys. I mean, after years of "this is too lethal to ever try, but trust me, bro", I understand.
The thing that you can practice more often has more value. That's why shadiversity is wrong about nunchucks.
Like, you can't practice the staff the same way you would practice nunchucks because staffs are too lethal? I never heard that before @@joeleek9976
The only thing too lethal in TMA to really try out are swords, axes and knives.
As a person that asked that question that is totally not what i meant and i hate thia argument
Bullshitzu (TMA) still being something people believe in confounds me. When it was back in the day without social media and all people saw was Bruce Lee fair enough but when we’ve never seen a single Tibetan monk put their forbidden skills to the test on the world stage- just staged videos where they break rocks
It's a recurring theme I see among people who usually have no knowledge of martial arts beyond kung fu movies and back issues of Black Belt Magazine, that the various techniques that are illegal in MMA are magical, fight ending supermoves. And the reason they're illegal is because the moment you use them, it would cause a fighter to collapse into a screaming puddle of meat and vomit.
They're often the same people who say things like: "Bruce Lee would beat Connor McGregor because Bruce Lee trained FUR TEH STREETZ!" And that he could dick kick his way to victory, with McGregor totally impotent against his crotch striking skills.
It's a strange mental block where people don't seem able to understand that fights are dynamic. The best technique to use at any given time is going to be contextual. And that there is no magic supermove.
Even in street fights, fights rarely end with a shot to the crotch. Or throat punches. Or knee kicks. Or eye gouges. Or any of the other super moves these people fantasize about. But they end with a punch to the head ALL THE TIME.
I think a lack of exposure to intense stress feeds this. Adrenaline is about as powerful a drug there is.
EDIT: By that I mean it's not unusual for cops to not realize they've been shot or stabbed until the fight's over. What's a kick to the crotch or punch to the throat compared to a 9mm to the gut or shot gun pellets to the face. Your senses aren't reliable in a street fight that's an advantage of Jiu-jitsu and wrestling.
Yes, sir. Most fights end with somebody being slammed, knocked out, or incapacitated in some way.
The moves are illegal because they COULD result in permanent injuries. Nothing magic about it, it’s purely biological.
Im a person that asked that question and i hate for the streets arguments and i have mma experience so you missed with that
Bruce Lee's fans are the worst thing that could happen to his memory and legacy.
I do suspect that there are some effective legal moves which just haven't really been picked up in MMA yet. Calf kicks are a relatively recent game-changer, and those were always legal; I don't think we've reached a point yet where the whole well of useful techniques has actually been tapped out yet.
That's true, hand fighting looks promising, especially with MMA gloves
I'd say that's more a concern in strategy than moves. The calf kick being an alternative to the traditional leg/thigh kicks. But reducing the risk of the kick being checked and causing a leg break (see Anderson Silva, Chris Weidman, etc.)
Main limitation for more interesting skills is good old fashion lack of training. Most MMA gyms are not interested in the spending the time to develop less seen skills till someone that has already had teh training previously successfully pulls it off in the ring. Spins of all strip used to be laughed at now are a staple.
@@Jono793 while that's true, they've always existed in sports like Sanda. It's nothing new, it's just that MMA only recently got with the calf kicking program.
@@ehisey that is true, however I will say that some of the weird seeming fist shape stuff like leopard fist and phoenix eye fist are largely intended for striking targets that are illegal to some extent like the eye or throat, spear fist too. Leopard and spear hand both have their best use case in attacking the throat, which means that they probably aren't ever going to catch on in a sport, since even if it's not penalized in MMA, people will still avoid doing it in a sporting context. Phoenix eye fist is probably the one most likely to catch on, since while it can be used to attack the eye, it can also pretty effectively attack normal scoring areas. Other things like tiger or dragon are just grips, not ways to strike an opponent. The whole tearing flesh thing is pure Hollywood.
13:30 I'm a former Judoka, I used to basically use this exact throw when I was about 12 because NOBODY TUCKED THEIR CHIN. I won a bunch of fights that way until I got a bit older, was fighting better opponents in a higher weight class and they knew to tuck their chin...
Interesting thing about the Namajunas slam is that she said it fixed a neck issue she had been suffering from for years!
I have actually had a similar experience with a guy attempting a neck crank that popped by back like the perfect chiropractic adjustment that felt amazing.
@@RamseyDewey That's a topic in itself. I know you were making an analogy, but what do you think about chiropracty in general? It's considered crankish by mainstream medicine.
I had a weird thing on my neck like a stiffness/soreness then i popped it trying to survive a tight triangle choke and voula! No more soreness HAHA
@@RamseyDewey BTW about first one most of the worst pain receptors are on face you technicly can joint lock face with nose and other locks which are I think legal but not sports like.
@@IamnotfromUSA jaw and face cranks happen all the time in the sport of MMA.
It's so interesting to see how movies and TMAs create such unrealistic expectations in people...even rare low precentage techniques like standing wristlocks when they do happen only make the person move a bit and in best case awkwardly fall 🤷♂️
not if you twist your body, you can break their arm
@@Purwapada not from a pure wrist lock like a kotegaesi, I do many standing wristlocks all the time...there are techniques like "wrist control locks" but those break the elbow or the shoulder not the actual wrist, you use the wrist for the control, those can be dangerous if you twist, but mostly everything can be applied in light sparring
Injury story related to the video
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Worst injury I've seen in competition was not even in a fight, it was in a wrestling match. Takedown, the recipient landed on an outstretched arm and broke his olecranon process. So his elbow bent 90 degrees in the wrong direction. Made me sick to my stomach at the time, but I was 17 years old. Coach told us all the next day that he had surgery and the bone was set with pins and wires and would heal just fine.
Years later when I became a physical therapist I saw patients with the same injury post operatively. Never treated one that did not heal perfectly.
Well thats good to know
Oh really >: I DIDN"T HEAL PROPERLY. I can't straigthem my arm like I was before the operation. I can't bend my forarm more than 90 degree. I got lucky that I can reach to my face and eat with that hand.
Two years with thereapists didn't help
@@RotaksThat is unfortunate. Medicine is never 100%. You'll note I said I have never seen one that did not heal perfectly. That does not mean they don't exist. I wish you the best of luck coming to terms with your situation.
@@DagwoodDogwoggle Just to add. During my rehabilitation, I have had contact with few rehabilitation centers, and - always - when they see me for the first time the reaction was like:"Uuuuhhh elbow :/ That's gona be tought". They were saying that elbow joint is more difficult to recover than a knee joint.
Even a surgeon write before my first operation (when they mount a plate with screws) said: After that you - will never - be able to straighten your elbow like you did befor. And how much you will be able to bend your elbow - depends on many factors.
A physical therapist is not an orthopedic surgeon.
Know your role mate.
At least you are not a chiropractor
I think it was Jesse Enkamp who addressed the issue of some of those "unconventional punches and kicks" techniques. He called that video something along the lines of "The most useless karate techniques" or something.
The Tl;dw was basically that while you may be able to condition your finger or toe into something deadly (and some people apparently did as a matter of exploring karate for decades), nobody quite literally has time for that - you can use it with a much greater efficiency by learning a lot of different things and improving your physique in more useful ways, and thus be much more capable in a fight in general while you're still full of strength.
Yeah there's this one Uechi Ryu guy who breaks shit with his toes and fingertips and the Goju Ryu guy with those mangled hands of stone. That insane type of conditioning allows them to do some crazy shit but then when you look at their students, none of them has those hands or conditions their limbs like that, and instead just sticks to the regular stuff.
I once had a mild injury while drilling fireman carries. My training partner was a purple belt but wasn’t comfortable with throws/takedowns. During the drill, instead of throwing me over, he held onto my leg (which meant that I couldn’t roll out) and fell to his side with me landing straight on my shoulder. It was just an honest drilling mistake and thankfully didn’t mess up my shoulder too much (only out for a few months - no surgery). I still can’t do wide push-ups super comfortably though.
Love the channel!
Iv heard alot of criticism on Jones kicking at the knee, people assuming he's the UFC's Skelator or something. All you need to do is ask those same people if they would ever use a knee bar in a competition. Than ask them if they'd put above average pressure on it to ensure a tap. Same destination, different paths.
Difference, with a knee bar, you usually have the time to tap while resisting, with a kick, you don't as the damage is done instantaneously.
@angelsjoker8190 It still damages the knee in the exact same way, so I really don't see why anyone should be judging the kick. Have you been in many knee bars? I'd almost prefer the kick over some guys reefing on my leg for a tap. Oleg Taktarovs later career demonstrated some pretty nasty knee bars. I can assure you, that those men would have rather taken a stomp on the knee by him instead.
Dude, he already explained why a knee kick like that is dirty. Knee bars can be applied slowly allowing the opponent to tap. Knee kicks do instantaneous, possibly debilitating damage. People being savage with bars and hooks and holds are severely looked down on. There's a reason Palhares was banned from the entirety of the sport
@Ult1mateWoob0 Has Jones won any fight by stomping the knee? I am getting so frustrated with mma getting watered down by gyms and people, where they start making their own rules, and deem certain things dirty. I'm serious. In my city, gyms are limited, and a few clubs are private with invite only sort of things going on, but what I can't stand is visiting one, and your sparring lightly, but you go for a particular strike on the ground, or even frame against someone's jaw. And right away they think your trying to kill the guy and call a foul on you. Months ago, our team was invited to a particular gym since the one guys brother was friends with some bjj guys at the other gym and got us an invite. So we were pretty pumped and glad to be going. Things were good for a while, but than when it came to rolling, one of our more advanced guys would land a spine twisting submission, leg lock, or head crank. He wasn't reefing on it, he just knew how to set them up. He was scolded for doing it!! So he played by their rules for a while, but than once we started using our own techniques and strategies that varied from what the coach there liked, he would get upset and say no no no, if yojr going to train here, you habe tondo it this way. Eventually heads collided, and one of our guys said thank you, but walked out. We're a team, so we followed. Mma and submission grappling is a dangerous sport. Injuries happen. It s terrible. Guys can be down for an undetermined amount of time. Accidents can also happen. It seems like theirs so many people that want to helmet and pad the mma rules. I respect the rules, I do, and think they are fair. No one should have to worry aboit going into an mma match and it turning into blood sport or the mortal kombat tournament. Respecting the spine line, yes good, the eyes, etc. All good rules. Yet there's still these few that cry about so much it's just absurd! They think it's super bro fine to get knocked out at their lil secret smokers hut once a week, like that's a good idea, aslong as it's from a respectful bro technique like a punch or high kick, but once you start throwing hammer fists at the on the ground lightly, or even at an angle while standing and their taking a shot at you, or angular palm and forearm shots, sometimes tapping behind the ear, which is currently legal, they get fussy and say yoir cheap. Or if you dig your elbow into their ribs while transitioning, that's a dirty tactic, or frame their face while your in any kind of top position, that's dirty, or using a can opener to open their guard, that's dirty, and I can't forget, if your butts on their face, oh my. like what the heck!!!! I could go on. Iv just had enough of it. These guys are in mma, yet I'm pretty certain that their not going to be happy untik the stand up is tag karate, and rhe ground game is nothing but chokes and armbars. I know this us a rant, but I have gotten so sick and tired of combat sports hobbiests complaining about perfectly legal techniques, yet their perfectly fine with getting punched and kicked in the face with force by their own gym bro buddies. Know what I think, and it might be a bit cruel to say. If a person can't handle the full spectrum or potential of mma, and respect it, than they should go to their tag karate, and bjj gym that only focuses on subs above the belt. Maybe take away the judo and wrestling potential it could have to, just to be safe.
@Ult1mateWoob0 I'm. Ot going to take back anything I said, maybe I got a bit worked up. To put it into a more context, I just personally don't believe that you can take away something like stomping the knee, which yes, does hyper extend it, but still allow knee bars, which some guys do go hard on. So Rampage made a big deal about the knee kick, going off about how dirty it was. And how it could end someone's career, which is hasnt yet by my research. Infact only a few have had to habe some down time from it, but they always recovered and made a come back. So Rampage has the gull to say that knee kicks are dirty, but than hel drop Ryan Bader directly on his head, and nobody will say boo about the fact that he could of paralyzed a man from the neck down. Spiking is illegal as we know, but if you start with just a belly to back toss and it ends badly, well, than everyone's hands are up. Just like Fedor and Randleman. Alot of guys preach about this 'honor thing' they got going on in the ring. I cry bs. Excuses to try and control and work around what a person can't handle. Like I said before. They go into the competition to test themselves in full combat, but than say "nope, nope, he dug his elbow into my rib when transitioning from side control to a high reverse mount sitting on their head, which they'll cry about to. When does it stop, and people just start accepting the sport for what it is, and what can come with it. Call me completely insane, but I actually think head butting should be allowed. Mainly for the ground work. It's a nightmare rolling with a guy thats proficient with headbuttijg and he catches your liver and solar plexus when he can.
Different fighters use Different Moves. A fighter doesn't need to or want to use every move . Some moves to harm the opponent needs a set up. Many pro fighters use kickboxing/muay thai combos and simple to complex bbj/grappling moves. Fights are fast.
Loving the Mortal Kombat arena background for the video.
We don't see these crazy techniques because Kenshiro from Hokuto no Ken doesn't compete in MMA
Hahaha! I wouldn't expect less from a Jojo fan!
What a cool comment to stumble upon, i might even say
"I am already laughing"
About nerves and pressure points, Sean O'Malley's loss against Chito Vera was after a leg kick that completely shut down his leg. His leg just didn't work after this hit. Obviously, targeting the nerve wasn't intentional, but you can aim to the zones where you know there are nerves, and if you are lucky it will work. The calf kicks work because there is a nerve there. Even a well placed thigh kick also can hit a nerve. So, yes, you can target nerves, but if you hit them it will be more of a lucky shot, because of the huge amount of precision required to do so intentionally.
In fairness calf kicks are lethal because you cant cindition them , muscle there too thin to minimize damage unless you check with shin
Bro you can not target a nerve, if you could you'd be a heck of a neurosurgeon.
@@crisstoff89 Targeting a nerve is a misnomer. You're hitting a relatively large area compared to the nerve but at the macro scale the foot makes focused contact with an area where nerves are present.
@@crisstoff89 bro learn how to read. I'm saying that you can target zones where you know there are nerves, but hitting them will be just sheer luck. I don't know how to explain myself any better...
Honsetly traditional lowkicks areaimed just above the knee where´s thin muscleconnection to quads - that the pressure point. However if you condition it it takes a lot power to effect you + thats why we check or evade kicks and why side stance is vulnerable...
Khalil Rountree Jr. Won against Modesta with a front oblique kick that dislocated the patella. Thai Boxers use thr technique, JBJ LOVES using it. Of the things listed, I can recall seeing at least 2 fights ends this way.
Also, armpit punches are phenomenal when you're in a clinch, but I can't think of any other instances I'd use it. The low calf kick is trying to pinch the Perennial Nerve against the Tibia/Fibula.
19:51 Someone finally said it! Hard weapon vs soft target. It amazing how many martial arts videos I've watched and have never heard anyone say it. That's the same terminology I was taught. I'm teaching my fiance how to defend herself now, and I hammer that into her head. If you break your hand 10 seconds into a fight, you better hope that shot knocked your attacker out, because you're gonna be at a serious disadvantage otherwise.
Not saying you couldn't punch someone in the face. Just gotta be careful about it. If you're snapping out a quick jab, probably not going to break your hand, but if you have the time and are in position to load up and throw a really heavy shot, hammerfist is better. At least that's my opinion.
I always enjoy your question and answer sessions I always learn alot and everyone else does too. No such thing as a stupid question. Thanks man.
I always love using traditional martial arts moves, but everyone should know that a jumping leopard claw strike won't kill a man
I am a TMA guy, but I've never put any faith in pressure points or chi. The reason is simple: it's hard to hit a small moving target with a precise strike at the best of times, when someone's trying to punch you in the face at the same time, it's extremely difficult, and it might not work anyway. Why waste time? Instead go for high percentage strikes... Like a right cross.
Same its very hard to pull off. Maybe during grappling and if you've got control you might be able to hit something but even then someones gonna be resisting.
Its useless if someones is about to punch your face... I´d say they can be pretty effective in clinch or in grappling situation however your opponent is gonan be tense and full of adrenalin so they´ll dont react to it quite like when you train it :D
It's also worth noting that there plenty of techniques which have only recently been "discovered" in MMA (ie, calf kicks, buggy chokes), suggesting that there are plenty more yet to be discovered.
And who knows? Maybe some of it maps onto this mortal kombat shit.
Yeah, might as well happen.
I personally think that Trapping (as in Chinese martial arts like Wing Chun) might be the future of MMA if anything. But it might also just stay the way it is now with only a few changes
Trapping is very hard to pull off in real time. Won't be a game changer
I need a "Face the wrath of the Jaguar Fist" gif.
Yet another excellent commentary.
Hi Coach, regardless of sport everyone likes to complain about the rules which leads to my question. What martial arts do you think has the worst ruleset for that martial art? For instance, many people claim the Olmpics ruine TKD. Best Wishes.
Judo recently was (and maybe still is, I don't keep up often with competitive judo) having problems with people forcing the opponent to get punished for stalling, by taking a certain stance and hold that, by the rules, makes it so that you are not considered to be "doing nothing", but your opponent is, as it is a extremely defensive position that makes it almost impossible to attack following the rules, so you get free points for stalling by abusing anti-stalling rules. Pretty silly stuff
Always love the background in your videos
The only time i remember a standing arm bar resulting in a break was done by shinya aoki
It was the whizzer variation
Theres a video of it somewhere on youtube
It was actually a technique called wakigatame that he broke his arm with. Here's the video.
ruclips.net/video/OVkYqCJmNlk/видео.html
I'd say the closest techniques to "pressure points" in movies or TMA lore are calf kicks hitting the perenial nerve, paralysing the lower leg, and strikes to the solar plexus or the liver, giving a delayed onset shut-down of the body. I guess you have a similar nerve running through the arm as the perenial nerve, but due to the nature of attacking techniques and how the arms are held, it's much harder to hit that spot.
Real pressure points are a thing - people often misunderstand what a pressure point is, in fighting. The liver, the throat, the groin, ARGUABLY the top of the foot, the spine, and if we include armed martial arts, the back of the hand - places where you can hit somebody just once for extreme effect. Some are banned in MMA, others aren't, generally based on "will it cripple you for life or kill you?". Throat? Banned AF. Liver? pretty unlikely to kill you, so it's allowed.
A real life "pressure point expert" would just be somebody who's really good at hitting these spots. They'd probably be called a dirty fighter instead, though. But yeah, I mean - there are a lot of "pressure points" on the human body, and they're not small. It's mostly a matter of "are you willing to do that to another human?"
The chin for knockouts, the liver. The femoral nerve on the inside of the thigh, the temple, etc….there are tons of them. Most are not accessible with padded knuckles
I got hit on the Saphenous nerve in a roll one fairly recently that shut my right leg off for a few minutes. Just accidental knee to knee on a guard pass. Definitely can happen. It’s just hard to do on purpose.
oh thats very interesting! so i guess it can happen@@CaPnBaLlBaG
Most fights are stopped by a looping right hand. You can practice a horse stance for 20 years, monkey style, dragon tail or whatever and still get dropped by a drunk in a bar with a right hand.
Solid opinions--well-delivered sir
G'day Dewey! About 13 years ago on the mats I got some ribs broken and displaced in a bad throw/fall/pin and grind. You can really see it with my shirt off. A few weeks ago I discovered that it had doubled over my gall bladder and its getting worse with the ribs pressing it, I rolled over on it and was soon in hospital on *strong* opiates. Point is , these guys are talking about " gall bladder pressure points" mate if their gall bladder was affected ....you tremble and do reoccurring small vomits with the pain. These guys are in a fantasy world, they aren't doing a *thing*
very interesting comment, these are literally the moves I do during my daydreams at work.
This guy definitely has played a Yakuza game to come up with that. The protaganist cheese grates is opponent on the street and brick walls.
@ramsey Dewey the delight in ur face as u simulated the "cheese grating" move.... I feel like ur going to try this out some time soon, and plz make a video for us.
hema, boxing and cma guy passing by, just wanna say the standing armbar stuff in chinese martial arts is often just an attempt to control the arm which imo is the easiest thing you can grab a hold onto, when comapred to lets say a single coller where you have to go all the way through and behind your opponent's hands, and yes we know that anyone with as you correctly pointed out, with a marginal amout of martial arts training would be able to recover or prevent it from happening in the first place. and thats one of the reasons in most of the forms where this technieque is present whether in nothern long fist like 硬捶 or 彈腿, even southern schools like hung gar, we often chain it into a strike since idk if you noticed but when we attempt the armbar, one of our hands is pretty convinient for a inside strike, cross to the solar plexis(黑虎偷心） if im doing northern techniques and upppercut to the throat or chin （扣撞）if im trying to do southern techniques.
for me, it only works when you strike into the absolute vital of the opponet forcing them to react thats when ill probably contact their hand, since they're trying to block and once i do, thats when i pull their hand back with the twist of the spine(hikite in karate) to unbalance them, only when all of those are present, at the heat of combat will i even consider such technique. so youre mostly right about how it will play out but i really think the focus is in the strategy and layout, but all of what you said is very true in terms of the execution.
anyone seeing this please correct me with any mistakes as im a student and happy to learn.
But thank you so much for the info and constructive critisism you've been presenting me and the wider martial arts community in general mr dewey. really liked your content, personality and all, keep it up!
Funky background. Took me back to the good old days of playing Arcade. Way back in late 90s
Those questions came straight out of those 80’s Kung Fu movies, Batman, Naruto, and Assassin’s Creed 💀💀
Hi Ramsey, love the Mortal Kombat background 😁 I have a question which kind of links to some of what you said. I've trained in Shotokan karate for a few years and recently transitioned to MMA. Sparring/fighting was never really my strong point and I do want to get better at MMA but I feel like something is holding me back and I'd be interested in your thoughts. I've had a history of post-traumatic stress and I think PTSD as well and it feels like it's left me with a kind of learned helplessness as I've been in a lot of situations that have involved some form of conflict and where it's just not felt possible to fight back or escape in any meaningful way. I pretty much never won sparring matches or fights in karate even just in the dojo and I think I just have this underlying belief that nothing I do is really going to be that effective and I can't win. I feel like even if I did score some points I wouldn't be able to go on and win because I think my limiting beliefs would hold me back. Do you have any thoughts on how we might overcome these kind of beliefs? I feel like this holds me back from being able to intelligently defend myself and protect myself, and it kind of is as if I do have some kind of off switch!
I've trained regularly in karate in the past and I'm working on having a consistent MMA training routine although that's definitely work in progress! Do you have any advice for what might help?
Sounds like you're a huge pussy and need to man up...nobody has a right to beat you...winners dont worry about losers
I have had nerve centers and point get either hit or pressed and had quite a myriad of reactions from pain to dizziness . I even know some of them and use them in demos. But then I mark them on my body (wearing a long sleeve shirt) with pieces of velcro and ask people to try and pull one or two off as we spar . Same skill it would take to target them and strike them basically . Rarely if ever has anybody grabbed any. So yes they are there and if you can hit them it's a bonus but I personally wouldn't count on them .
The weird fireman carry slam they described sounds like a Death Valley Driver so they're probably a pro wrestling fan which might explain some things
The last time I did karate I was like 8 so I don't really know how effective the punch lock thing is but I have seen people really hang on to wrists and forearms. They were trying to do arm drags and maybe they didn't get to the triceps/close the shoulder but they're still trying for it. I feel the move wouldn't work because you would basically be giving into what the guy trying to drag you is doing because you are rotating yourself into it. Maybe that's just the trad karate look of it though.
edit: I don't know what it is but watching kids faceplant is always hilarious
That question was highly entertaining! 😂
This was intriguing
Your contributer to this one seems to have a love of permanent damage! also...the cheesegrater..! A new move and name for my vocabulary
As a judoka I am often confused when MMA people use judo throws. The entire concept of judo wss to remove the crippling anf lethal stuff from jui jitsu. You would figure that they would drill on all the banned techniques and use the more damaging variations of throws a seoi nage or tai otoshi used to plant the opponents face into the mat is far more effective than the gentle shoulder drop version everyone does.
IT is a matter of training. Most MMA fighters learn them from either Judo competitors or BJJ, ( which is basicly the Judo comp versions) so don't really see/get taught/practice the higher damage versions.
The jaguar fist Lmaoo0000! 😂🤣😆 Thats the way Jhon jones enters the cage on his jaguar knuckles
Regarding breaking the arm while standing, 9-shape block is a better bet but still very hard to pull off. Never seen it pulled off if I'm being honest. For the middle knuckle I think he meant the second joint in the middle finger, but yeah still a soft tissue technique.
Hey Ramsey, if there´s no wrestling where i live, is judo a good 2nd best??
Been doing a lot of bouldering and rock climbing recently you ever trained with people who have a lot of climbing experience?
I have seen some people throw them selves from real awkward positions off the wall then catch there entire swinging body wight with just the finger tips of one hand.
ippon seoi nage jacked up both of my shoulder AC joints lol
There was a muay thai fight I watched where a guy was elbowed in the arms, and it dislocated his opponents elbow. They didn't know it was dislocated until he sat in the corner. It was like that very old UFC fight where a guy elbowed someone and dislocated his own elbow. I don't know the fight, though, it was in my recommendations on instagram. But honestly, elbowing arms on someone being defensive doesn't seem unrealistic, pretty brutal thing to do though. I don't remember it well enough to believe it was intentional, but I think the opponent was in the center balled up, then the attacker threw like two elbows, one hit the arm and the other hit his head. Then the guy threw a big punch that missed by a mile after, then the round ended, then the clip skips to a doctor taking a look at it.
I guess the question is does this seem like an effective thing to do? In boxing attacking the guard is a pretty common thing, but I don't think I've ever seen a elbow to setup another elbow ever again, and I feel it's actually not a bad idea as long as you're elbowing the side that would expose you.
18:33 I know there's almost no context in which you should do this but I wonder if this would actually be more effective than just regular ground and pound. Lifting the chin with one hand and hammering your opponent in the throat with the other. I feel like Ramsey just inadvertently created an actual "technique too dangerous for the cage" 🤣
I'm guessing that Mortal Kombat in the background was not a mistake. :D Tear the skin Johnny yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhh!!!!!
Made me think of I guess would be the opposite, which is actual illegal moves in boxing I've seen. One guy threw fake hooks, where he would miss or slip over the opponents face then crash his elbow into their head. Andrew Golota was famous for ball punching, although he got caught and disqualified for it. I saw another guy use the clinch to rabbit punch like crazy. He actually managed to pull that off without getting caught a lot.
the tiger claw move in kickboxer 5 is good.
Piledriver is an illegal move and im happy for it
The guy or girl asking these questions have never been in a fight.... i assume
Yess ..someone saying punching someone in the face is pressure point fighting. If I recall there are 14 points that nerves exit the skull (canals) on each side of the face ..most around the eyes ..two each side of the lower mandible. The facial nerve branches into the temporal, zygomatic, buccal and mandibular nerves. None of which are a magic off switch however those spots would momentaraly stun a person being hit with less force than elsewhere on the skull.
Thanks for that input on the Kimura. Never thought that cranking it too fast would damage the shoulder. Still learning how to do techniques like this safely so every tip is helpful.
Also, touching up on stuff like Batman and activating nerve bundles. People have to understand that Batman is a trained assassin that chooses not to kill so all of his techniques are modified to immobilize/imcapacitate his opponents without killing them. That being said, that finger jab was likely a killshot that he modified to simply disable the arm.
Also, you'd assume that in a sport that teaches your to keep your chin tucked, your opponent would, ya know, keep their chin tucked. Also, if you're smart enough to do it in the streets, you're smart enough to do it in the cage and vise versa (for all those so-called "street fighters").
I'm not really sure what else to touch on in terms of calculated strikes though. Mostly because from experience, what works in the cage also works in the street. Not much need for super calculated strikes. Grappling is great for defending yourself so I'd advise anyone to dabble in any form of grappling (especially submission). Also, a little boxing and Muay Thai can't hurt.
Update: there is are more martial arts places opening up here. Still no Muay Thai so doomed to practice that on my own. The places here focus on Tae Kwon Do, BJJ and boxing. Admittedly, I got really excited when I saw the BJJ place.
I got a standing kimura in my last MMA fight.. Though again the bloke didn't tap. Still it was pretty cool to get it.
Can you compare .Ramsey, the fighters from the old K1 prmotion to those that are fighting today in promotions like Glory?Were they better or not?Were the fighters from the older UFC's better than those from the UFC today?Thank you for your answer.
3:13 I've seen that, not for a throw but it's good enough for a strike or 2
9:25 I think it depends on the level of the athletes conditioning too, verses shadow ninjas on the street
1. a fighter that is good at pushing the opponent to the fence and keep the fight there, could stomp the opponent's feet until both breaks.
2. wrestlers could focus at throwing opponents in such a way that the pression is done majority to the neck. (like pile drive and karelin's thrown)
Commenter:"Why is it not possible? Coach:"It's just not" Commenter:"Why not you stupid bastard!?"😂
I had an instructor tell me once to always "Tap Early." That stuck with me after training with someone one evening went a little overboard and I injured my ulnar nerve in my elbow.
@9:00 Oh man, in the early 2000's, Tony Jaa's stunts were some of the best that RUclips had to offer.
I really like this guy's imagination.
Yeah even though it likely isnt they could be well written parody questions
That is one of my better atributes
@@milofitness7726 You really made me laugh. Thank you.
Where can I find that mortal kombat backround ?
Question: I have a friend who wants to practice jiu jitsu but there are no gyms where they live (rural area/very small town). They figured they could look up online training material and practice with local friends and whatnot. Of course, once they started looking online, they found a lot of junk (ah, Internet...) and were confused about what resources to use as reference.
Do you have some guidance for my friend and maybe even recommended resources for them to train safely and have a good time doing so.
P.-S.: They are a total beginner at all of it.
Tell him to train endurance and strength, that will serve him far better in any fight than wrestling with imaginary partners and will make starting martial art way easier when he has the opportunity.
@@Nala15-Artistimaginary partners? Did i miss something?
boxing or wrestling.
@@Nala15-Artist Thanks for the advice. My friend is already quite active (running, hunting, outdoor sports, etc.). I'm not sure where the imaginary partners came from, since they would be practicing with local friends in the area they live in that are also interested... lol.
@@jestfullgremblim8002 Yeah, I'm also a bit confused...
I don´t think the technique the question was talking about was about the tiger fist or as i know it hira ken, but the nakadaka ken where you strike with the interphalangeal joints of the middle finger in flexion so you end up striking with the proximal interphalangeal joint. Yeah let´s put it like this i teach it for bunkais and katas who have it i wouldn´t dare to use it against any sort of resisting opponent or hard surface.
You’re alright, man. Humorous and knowledgeable. It’s simple, kinda. The honesty is refreshing. Online anyway, a lot of B.S. out there.
What's that background animation? Did you make it yourself?
Only oblique kick when knee snapped I can think of is Khalil Rountree.
Can the electronic drums dude! You have a Great voice . Dont spoil it
Well, consider watching one of my 1400 other videos that don’t have background music.
I can imagine like an “Indian burn “ being something that I feel would be probably effective but probably illegal
Interesting background as you give your commentary. I’m not sure. Is it a Halloween theme?
It’s a collage of backgrounds from the first two Mortal Kombat video games.
The vagus nerve is DEFINITELY an off switch
For the guy talking abou pressure point attacks, what do uou think leg kicks to the outer thigh are? You're punishing those legs, hopefully on the outer thigh pressure point, until your opponent can't takenit anymore and either his leg buckles or he switches to his less dominant stance. Can you hit them hared and/or with more precision? Maybe. But it would be very difficult to pull off against an intelligent, capable, defending opponent. Same for most of the other pressure points. They exist, but like Coach Dewey said, doesn't mean they're easy to hit or instant fight enders.
But that's not a "pressure point". You can hit above the knee on the outside, on the inside, you can hit the quad. As long as there's tissue related to motion, any area of the leg that can be hit will hurt when the opponent takes steps.
6:26 😂😂
I got to see that Batman fight breakdown 😮
Sad about the Jaguar fist :( didn't even know about it so I missed all the hype I guess.
Yeah but you didn't mention the ancient dragon fist/law (because it's a secret). 😉
Hey Coach,
Do you think that the kick to the knee should be illegal because it is rarely a fight ender but leads to cummulitatve damages the knee shortening the careers of the fighters?
No. I do not think any more illegal techniques need to added to MMA.
The sport of MMA has too many fouls in the rule book as it is.
Only time I can think of a standing arm break is Aoki breaking the arm of Keith Wisniewski.
Most of these illegal moves were done in UFC 6 by Tank Abbott. He's the reason most of these are fouls. Before Tank, it was only no biting and no eye gouging. They had to make rules because of him.
That guy sounds badass, and also scary (looking from his opponents' perspectives)
@@jestfullgremblim8002
Tank Abbott looked like the type of guy who goes to biker bars to pick fights. He also once picked up a guy and tried to throw him out of the cage. Another rule that was implemented because of him.
What about trying to rip someone's ear off When you have backmount and can not get the choke in?
It's illegal
we covered this already in this video. Grabbing, twisting, tearing, pinching the flesh is a foul.
The reason you don't see techniques like leopard fist, is simple. MMA fighters don't train like that, Bas Rutton for example like using a slap to the side of the head, yet not many use it.
They don't use it, because fists do more damage. Rutten used slaps and palm strikes, because pancrase didn't allow closed fist strikes to the head. When he fought under different rule sets, he used fists too.
Prior to Pancrase, Bas was already using palms and elbows... in da streetz! (security work) to protect his hands.
But even light MMA gloves provide enough protection to make punching the preferred option.
@@BWater-yq3jx elbows yes, palms maybe as a gimmick. Even in his bar fight instructionals he's using fists most of the time
You kick to knee to do a disruption you see it all the time
Aoki broke his opponent's arm with the spinning overhook armlock.
My fights are always like Mortal Kombat. When it's time to "finish him" I go with "friendship" and don't do anything and lose my position and then go get subbed. 😂😂😂😂
I love (and by love i mean hate) the misconception that fist techniques like leopard fist and tiger claw, and mantis fist are actual techniques. All of those come from Wushu, which is performance art.
Mantis techniques are real but they are not what everyone when they think of mantis. The same goes for tiger, and leopard, and crane, and all of the other animal forms.
Example: Mantis is all about angles, precision striking and hand fighting. How to get that angle for a strike to softy tissue, etc. It's not about finger pokes.
Example 2: Tiger claw is not an open finger claw like you see. It's ALL about grappling, grabbing and extremity and destroying it.
Leopar is all about HARD sudden strikes and how to land them. its not at all about hitting with your finger joints, thereby breaking your hand while doing no damage to your opponent.
That is SOME patience mr Dewey, answering such idiotic questions in all seriousness...
Shinya Aoki did a very TMA style standing armlock vs Keith Wisniewski and instantly broke his arm. Thats probably the only legitimate example i can think of.
Good points, but ellbows are for ellbow distange. The 3rd nuckels hit in the longest jab distance. You can push them much better in the eye regions than the real nuckles:-) no?
Can you? If you land half an inch off (which you probably will if you land anything at all, because the other guy is fighting back) you’ll have broken hands striking from outside the pocket like that.
@@RamseyDewey depends, if he stands to receive yes, if he pulls back and gets more upright while doing that the target is easy to hit with the right footwork, and the neccessary power is minimal compared to a fully turned punch. Of course, it should be illegal in any sport. You understood it correctly, you need to hit soft areas, it is like an eye jab and you do risk a trade-off, eye for a finger injury:-)
CHEESE GRATING AGAIN THE FENCE LMAO
I did disable a guys arm in the Army once by accident. His whole arm stopped working for like 5 min. It scared me to death as we where horseplaying not training. But this is not something you can just do as you said.
The last point is good for a party tricks ask a good boxer to punch through a few layers of cardboard. I've NEVER seen anyone succeed! However, someone who can do the Jaguar/leopard fist or finger poke with a modicum of force CAN punch through cardboard.
I think the jaguar/leopard/panther fist would be better in amateur mma since to my knowledge elbows are illegal in amateur mma, or so that how we trained at my first gym. Maybe not as a hard strike, but as a jab, or as he mentioned, to cut or cause bleeding. As an extension to make the jab longer. I used to practice it on the heavybag for fun and thought the same thing. Sure i havent hit bone or something similar, but it has crossed my mind as well.
Wouldnt use it on bone. Its meant for soft targets and stabbing to pinpoint areas that fist might not get into. Blunt force vs Getting stabbed with something dull kinda pain.
@LunaticReason like ribs, maybe legs when catching a kick, or simple jabs. Also, tactically speaking could confuse a less experienced fighter. It's lasted this long for a reason, had to have some practical application at some point.
I was sparring Boxing, and took a hit to the eye, it tore my eye, and I still finished the round before going to the ER. And I'm amateur as fuck.