A friend of mine was preparing a practice flight for an aerobatic competition and asked me if I wanted to join him. Sure, why not? I like aerobatics. After two outside loops with -4.5 G, I looked like Dracula for the next seven days.
First time I did a rolling circle in a Pitts and experienced +4 and -4 every 90 degrees of turn I was highly motivated to reassess my choice of competitive outlets.
I have on many occasions experienced i’m guessing at least -2 G’s and up to possibly 6 G’s while sitting on the toilet. I have come close to G Loc. I try to utilize AGSM in these situations but sometimes it sneaks up on me while I am totally focused on completing the maneuver. A key indicator that I am in trouble is my hearing will begin to echo and I will start hearing “Highway To The Danger Zone” by Kenny Loggins. Fortunately these maneuvers usually go off without a hitch but when they don’t, I might need to scrub the mission at the first sign of a hangup. Thank you for your service and taking the time to make these videos 🇺🇸
Beware... G Loc on toilet has been identified as leading cause of brown missing the white. Used to work at Boeing, those whiny fighter pilots complaining we didn't include full latrine in their cockpit. I just tell them to pretend lots of 'G's... pinch and pucker. Got a few death threats, they have no sense of humor.
I went on my first flight with a pilot who heard I’d never been on a small plane before. Mid flight he asked me if I knew what negative Gs were. I said I didn’t and then he asked if I throw up easily. I said no, and he tipped the nose of the plane down and I made a really weird noise as the butterflies started. I also got to do some gentle turns. It was a fun flight and now I’m going to complete college with the goal of being a pilot.
I remember seeing a video of an airshow pilot of a stunt plane who pulled sustained negative g in his routine through an inverted loop. He described it as an extremely unpleasant experience. I forgot most of the specifics, but painful was certainly on the list of things to expect. It's a lot easier in the games, that's for sure.
Lots of aircrafts can’t fly negative G for very long. The Tomcat could fly negative G for 10 seconds with afterburner, 20 seconds at mil power(mil power is full throttle without afterburner)
Well you will run into that problem at AB as stated the fuel flow requirements are huge for AB and inverted or negative G you are automatically limiting the pumps thanks to physics.
'Bozo' Lloyd who did all of the Maverick dogfight scenes and the fly-by in 'Top Gun' said, Tomcat with certain trim and power settings could go up to 1 minute inverted before you had to go back upright. They did that while trying to shoot the 'birdie' scene for real initially, but the F-5 would start falling behind due to the lack of power as the F-14 was right above it so they had to use the split-screen.
"Bruises on your brain probably aren't a good thing" I mean, when you put it like that, I think I'd rather get g-lock and and pass out rather than have a stroke or a bruised brain.
@@southnc63 they do have the automatic correcting and leveling systems in modern fighter aircraft which has saved a lot of lives. Granted, in a combat scenario, any reduction in capacity will likely lead to getting killed. I was more referring to which would I rather: get knocked out and trust the plane to level out OR have a stroke and just die right then and there.
@@zakleclaire1858 Fair enough. It would be cool if they could develop software that enables the plane to land itself at nearest approved airport on its own in such a scenario as you described.
@@southnc63 oh that would be awesome! They already have fly-by-wire and autopilot so it shouldn't be too hard to create a "fly to base" feature if the pilot is unable to do so.
This was great. Yesterday I did some aerobatic training in a P51 a friend has. I’ve been up about five times now. It is a D model with controls in back. I love it. I am 71 so it affects me more than you young dudes. I’ve been pulling almost 4+ in various maneuvers and that’s about all I can handle, but getting better. I just love it. Of course the Mustang is a brilliant Aircraft. Not a jet, I realize....but truly a lot of fun. I enjoyed your explanations.
From my experience when I got an F-16 back seat ride if you're not conditioned and accustomed to it, pulling 9G's is actually quite painful. Negative G's usually make you puke!
Depends on the person. I got three rides and none of those were me at peak physical condition. Pulling 9 wasn't "quite painful" but it also wasn't fun. Only got to zero G so cannot say about into the negatives.
Man, when my dad showed me an outside loop in the aerobatic biplane we had (-4 to -5 G I think, though only for a few moments) and I was just like nope! that hurts, don't need to do that again. Positive G or regular inverted stuff I had no problem with. He was a Tomcat guy and like you said, he always said there was really no reason to do negative G stuff in that airplane, but for whatever reason he got a kick out of it in his. You're really informative and this is a great video.
Reminds me of the Ted Harduvel crash. His F-16 crashed due to wire chafing and he lost basic instruments while drifting into a cloud bank and didn’t realize he was flying upside down.
Love your video's my dream was to be a fighter pilot but life unfortunately led me in a different direction. It's excellent to get information from a real world fighter pilot and respect what you do!
One of the things that surprised me when I first started playing DCS was the fact that you have little "dive" (but actually climb) authority when inverted, but when you think about it from a physics standpoint it makes perfect sense. If you're flying level inverted, you are already "diving" at 2G, because in normal level flight your airframe is producing 1G of lift, so in order to counteract that you have to overcome the aircraft's natural 1G of lift, and then add on another 1G to stay level.
To pile on to your story from the flight sim instructor, originally, if the F-16 lost power the flight controls would default to full down and of course the jet would nosedive. This was determined to be the cause of several aircrew losses early in the F-16 program. Later the Flight Control Computer was reprogrammed for the flight controls to go to neutral in the event of power loss.
With all of the different sources of power through the inverter/regulators I find it had to believe a F-16 FLCS ever lost power. If any ever managed to lose ALL of those sources at once the FLCS is the least of their concerns.
Honestly, this is the first video I have seen for your channel but you are very concise and can describe things so well with minimal verbiage. Nothing short of what I would expect from fighter pilots. One of the most elite minds of the military in my opinion. Instant sub !
I enjoy seeing pilots in the cockpit I do pray for all of their safety. I also enjoyed getting to learn about why it's good to avoid doing negative G's
I flew the F-15C, but before the air force I was an ATP flying corporate jets for a living, and flying airshows and competition for fun and supplemental income. I was surprised to find that flying my Pitts and Extra was much more demanding, physically, than flying the T-38 or F-15. Roll rates were similar, my aerobatic planes had similar positive g limits and higher negative g limits. We regularly flew -4, -4.5gs in competition, while -2.5 was very rare even in the eagle.
The biggest problem I see in the amateur aviation enthusiast world is that they think Red Flag is a competition where their favorite aircraft come to be tested against US fighters, then return with national press about how they smoked F-15s and F-16s, were banned from further attendance because they’re too good, etc. Red Flag is not about, nor has it ever been about testing one airframe or Air Force against another. It’s about building a Blue Force populated with various types of aircraft, who will then learn to work together to fight a campaign or series of campaigns so that the pilots get at least 10 simulated high threat environment missions that do their best to replicate the challenges of air combat. The threat force is called Red Air, and also has a growing array of ground threat platforms to simulate enemy radar, SAM, and AAA sites. The Aggressor units study very detailed threat capabilities fed to them by the National intelligence apparatus of the US and other partner nations, then emulate those flight profiles, tactics, weapons profiles, and countermeasures used by various threat air forces in the world. They aren’t just up there seeing who can humiliate Blue Air for fun. Each Red Flag exercise is different than the previous one. No 2 have been the same. If you look at the attending units and airframes throughout Red Flag history, it varies wildly from iteration to iteration. You could have a bunch of bombers and F-15Es flying as the primary Blue Force in one RF, and a large foreign participation Blue Air component in the next with guys from UK in Typhoons and Tornados, French Mirages, Italian Tornados and Typhoons, Indian Air Force Su-30MKIs, USMC Hornets, Aussie Hornets, Israeli F-16Is, etc. Then another one will be US-only with F-22As, F-35As, USMC F-35Bs, USN Growlers, B-1Bs, B-2As, etc. They’ve even started using F-22As and F-35As as Red Air, with dedicated F-35As already assigned to Nellis Aggressor Squadrons 2 years ago. They reactivated the 65th Aggressor Squadron and started populating it with older F-35As from Eglin AFB that were being used for weapons test and evaluation if I recall. Eglin is getting new F-35As off the later Lot production line now, and sending its older F-35As to Nellis. Edwards AFB has also been sending F-35As to Nellis, but I think these are part of one of the squadrons that tests and trains for CAS with F-16Cs. There’s a 1970s movie made about Red Flag back in the days of the F-4 that’s worth watching for a major step back in time.
We used to do Red Flag with our F-4's back in the early 90's. From what I understand they did pretty well for as old as they were. I wasn't a pilot though, I was a mechanic but I went a few times.
I read a story about a fellow flying a pitts for the first time back in the 40s, didn't realise how sensitive the aircraft was to stick input and he went for the outside loop and pushed -7Gs, managed to land the aircraft and his eyes were entirely red from burst blood vessels!
You just answered all the questions that I asked on someone's RUclips channel about negative G's. I'm not sure if it was yours or C.W. Lemoine's but I hadn't even thought about the fact that there is no straining technique that can force blood out of your head. And I'm sure putting the equivalent of a G-suit around your upper body and neck wouldn't be very healthy either. So thanks for the eye opening info.
In competition aerobatics, we have to be prepared to fly maneuvers in either direction. That means pilots will routinely see say +7 and -5g's, and up over +10/-8 for some monoplanes in Unlimited category competition. And of course this is without G-suits, so practice and conditioning are naturally important. It's also important to point out that G-loc is a function of positive G levels and *time*. In competition we pull high G's to turn a 90 deg corner that lasts 5 seconds (for example), whereas an F35 in ACM may be expected to pull 8 G's for 30-seconds in a turning fight. In regards to the risks of negative G's, we would end up with abrasions on our hips (rolling turns were the worst), and pinpoint bruises on our eyelids at that level (for me above -5G's), where capillaries seem to be weaker than elsewhere. But I never ever heard of anyone coming back with their face "all-bruised up". That's nonsense, and more likely the result of wind blast in a high-speed ejection. Other issues related to negative-G's included the "wobblies" (dizziness associated with dislocation of the Otoliths), but brain bleeding (stroke) never happened to my knowledge, and was something a pilot/physician advised me was highly unlikely given the fluid pressure equalization provided by our nicely spherical skull.
On my incentive ride in 1993 at Tyndall AFB we were tdy from Moody as soon as the pilot got to 18000 ft he leveled off and the negative g’s was wild I loved it. Now when I watch people going on a flight they roll the jet over to keep the positive g’s
Not to say any of this is wrong, but as someone who has regularly done -3 and occasionally -4 as an aerobatic pilot, I would just say that you can build up negative G tolerance just as these guys do for sustained high positive G. Don't get me wrong, it never gets comfortable, but its not unthinkable to work up to regularly pushing -6, it's just not something a fighter jet or any other non-aerobatic specific built plane can do safely.
I regularly saw +9 -7g doing unlimited competition. I suspect the fighter pilot myths about the evils of neg g are to scare pilots out of habits that may bend store hardpoints or send fod into the canopy.
Great presentation (notably, the clarification on man vs. unmanned)… Positive G’s vs. negative G’s are very different. Having experienced both, I would say that the negative G’s are incredibly nasty. It’s like someone or something pushing you down with great force while all of your inner parts being forces up. This is extremely more uncomfortable than any positive G forces…
OK a few bits. I was a maintainer on the F-16 for almost 20 of my 25 years (1986 to 2006) and I've never heard that story. Add in that the FLCS is quad redundant unless there was some REALLY bad code in the FLCC a single channel not agreeing with the others will not cause it to do that. Even in analog FLCS days it has always been quad redundant in everything but air data where it is triple redundant. Not to say something like this couldn't have happened in test or out at Edwards but you relating that is the first time I've heard that. As far as flying I had three incentive flights during that time and it only took the first flight to make me a true believer of Spatial Disorientation. Pilot did an Immelmann and, of course, you initially end that flying upside down. Well he left us flying upside down for several seconds but it all happened so fast that my body didn't process it all and so I am sitting there in the back seat looking UP at the Earth and feeling no different than I do right now typing this message at my keyboard. Absolutely must trust those instruments to tell you your attitude. The third flight was when I was stationed at Osan AB and it was a LtC and man that dude could bomb. After the first few he just asked me where I wanted him to put the BDU-33 and that is exactly where it went. However dropping that many bombs in quick fashion meant we were constantly pulling like 5-6 G. I didn't even realize I had picked up the G measles until the pilots in debrief pointed it out to me. Guess they just shortened it to geasles afterwards. Forget negative Gs. That is just no fun at all. Only time I ever felt like I might have gotten nauseous was on the take off from Osan and twice we must have hit pockets of disturbed air or something because the best way I can explain it is it felt like there were two huge rubber bands on the radome. One going down and one going up and someone smacked the nose and it just porpoised in pitch until it settled down. Other than that the F-16 was a freaking hoot to be flying in. Beats any amusement park ride you'll ever get on.
I got a ride in an F-15 for winning Airman of the Quarter and we pulled 7.5 pos G's. Watching WWII live clips of B-17s spiraling down to the ground I can't imagine the amount of G's they were pulling which made it impossible to get out.
It's good to hear some reality about the true nature of physics. Too many believe the crap out of Hollywood and then call it truth and get insulted when you try to explain reality to them.
Perhaps just to add to your final point. Wings and more specifically airfoil are optimized to provide a lift vector in a specific direction. So, turning will likely always be better into this vector rather than away from it.
Great presentation and information-thanks. Love too hear about the type of brain a fighter has. I love the fact we all have different brains. Great stuff. Nicko from NewvZealand.
About a -.5 g is the greatest thing ever! Love pushovers! Akin to that first drop on a large roller-coaster. Can't get enough of them :) I imagine -2 or more would suck though.
Thanks for all you do brother, and thanks for sharing life as a pilot, god bless and protect always, was it mustache March when you made this video? :)
I'm in love with everything Hornet kinda fanatically, but that Viper bubble canopy is a thing of beauty no doubt.. Makes me jealous every time I see it, despite me only "flying" in DCS.
I didn't believe this guy was a real air force Pilot until I saw that moustache seconds after clicking the video link. Legit! Jokes aside, you're a legend!
Thanks .. learned something.. only thing I cant agree on . Is unmanned flight will be sooner than you say. Theyll still be flown by humans but not from the cockpit
Competition aerobatics in my Pitts you build an horrendous G tolerance. High numbers but all instantaneous not sustained like military G. Plus/Minus 9G was common. Negative G had advantages as you didn’t have to tense your body and had excellent visibility of the 1km aerobatic box. Also your fin and rudder were always in clean air not blanketed by the elevator.
If you are inverted, you are not experiencing -1G. You are still experiencing 1G, you are just experiencing it upside down. Negative G refers to the force felt when you manoeuvre in such a way that you briefly carry momentum upwards, after acceleration has ceased. This causes a weightless feeling. Positive G is the force that you feel under that acceleration. Pilots often think of negative G as, blood rushing to your head, and positive G as blood rushing to your feet, which is generally a crude and inaccurate way of thinking of it
I live in Peoria AZ and the F35's fly over my house all the time. I noticed that some F35's fly over my house with their gear down? Why is this? Im still a good bit away from Luke. The F16's they fly over do not do this. Also why is the F35 2 to 3 times as loud as the F16 when it flies over?
The F-35’s F135-PW-100 motor has as much thrust in mil power as an F-16C Block 50/52’s has in full afterburner. It’s a beast of a fighter engine-the most powerful fighter engine ever built. It has 10,000lb more thrust than the SR-71’s J58, which is an absolute monster of an engine if you’ve ever seen one in person.
@@LRRPFco52 Well TBH comparing to the 71 is kind of an apples to oranges comparison as at speed the SR-71 bypasses most air and gets its power from AB. As much power as a 16 in full AB at mil is impressive though.
Hopefully here in the 🇵🇭 we could have proper fighter jets very soon.. I want to be an air force combat pilot so bad but we only got trainer jets from ROK and dozens of attack helis that are nearing their service lives
What really hurts is going from positive G's to negative G's and vise-versa in an instant. You are grunting trying to hold it all up and all of a sudden you are grunting trying to hold it all down. I like aerobatics where you know what to expect in the next few seconds. Combat is hard and it hurts. You may not know what your situation is going to be 2 seconds from now.
The first time we pulled negative Gs was coming off a (practice) iron bomb drop and started what’s called “GLB-ing” (sp) which was a SAM evasive maneuver that consisted of both weaving and bobbing vertically. It’s a low G maneuver of maybe 1.0-1.2 Neg Gs. I felt like I was going to come out of the top of the canopy. No Bueno.
how about manouvers that combine both positive and negative g? Are they even possible? Like rapid descent: begin just by pointing the nose lower and then invert to make it really tight. Would it be faster than getting inverted first and than doing vertical u-turn? Would it save more energy? Would it move the plane out if the line of gunfire faster?
Yea I heard that Wolfman story too. Not only does the blood go to the head… the Neg G is like hanging upside for too long along with a shock load such as a mountain climber would experience in a fall ( tied off ). The internal organs press up against the heart and lungs and will cause death
The pilot may not be replaced in the near future but his vision will be augmented (decluttered by computer). Imagine a ground attack pilot is maneuvering for attack. The target is nestled in and around hi obstructions. Imagine Swiss mountains. There is a path in/out but involves some very precise flying avoiding obstacles. The target was actually acquired by another aircraft/satellite higher and out of range (yes, he could get popped with guided munitions, but that’s not the point, this demonstrates a future attack system). The targeting aircraft data links the target info. The attack aircraft flips a switch and his canopy become fully augmented. Think opaque to the outside. What the attack pilot sees is a representation of the actual target nestled in and around solid cones. The height of these cones represents actual height but the bushyness changes dynamically depending on speed of the attacking aircraft and “it’s flight performance envelope ” basically he just has to keep out of the cones, the slower he goes the more narrow, the faster he goes they get more bushy ultimately looking like a hedge when at super high speed. Pilots are faced with information overload, a system like this is a virtual filter. The pilots needs to know can his aircraft can get to the target within the design envelope and not wind up in the ditch. Ultimately the pilot will be replaced with a real-time AI based flying system. Currently the aircraft performance envelop is restricted by the pilot not the machine. Stands to reason the ultimate goal is to get the pilot out of the cockpit, he/she/it is the limiting factor.
Dude I loved Bohemian Rhapsody and your Flash soundtrack. Can you sing a song in your next video? /S Just kidding, Love all the nitty-gritty behind the scenes, nerd info, what goes into the job, making the sausage videos. Thank you for your service.
Love your channel so informative and answers all my questions so thank you for that. Question why did you switch planes from the F-16 to F-35? Second question I’m a professional artist and would love to team up and draw a portrait of you in your plane, have you sign it and auction it off for charities that I currently work with. Would that be of interest to you? Also we can make prints and give them away to your fans the same way you do with your patches. I’d be happy to provide you with a jet I drew for a client. Thank you in advance 🙏🏾
Hi Antoine, I switched to the F-35 because it's a much newer and more capable aircraft. The Viper will always be my favorite aircraft, but you want the best tools available. The art sounds interesting, please send some more info @ justin@professionalsplaybook.com
@@HasardLee awww I see, so you always want to be flying the best plane possible and keeping up with the times as they say. To have the tools to put you in the best position. As for the art thank I shall do just that, I so appreciate the reply will continue to watch and hopefully win one of those patches for my brother. who’s been in love with planes since a baby so thank you again 🙏🏾
So cool I wanted to be a pilot god wanted me to play music but wow so cool to hear about positive and negative g all of us land dwellers will never get to really understand that and thanks for proving that Tom cruise’s maverick story of being inverted in a negative 4 g dive means he wouldn’t be pretty anymore lol
Hey Hasard, I'm a big fan from India. 🔥🔥🔥 Just wanted to know your opinion about *Sukhoi SU 30 MKI* and *Dassault Rafale* . And if given a choice, which one would you prefer ? Please reply 🙏🙏🙏
4:49 so why don't any other fighters have canopies like the F-16? I've played with a lot of fighters in VR on DCS and that's the most striking thing I've noticed about the F-16, there isn't anything obstructing your view. Some jets are worse than others in that regard, you have pretty good vision in the hornet but, the tomcat feels like you're looking through a porthole, but nothing comes close to the viper canopy. Why isn't it the standard?
Never really flown negative g but positive up to 4.5 in a T6 Texan once that was fun 🤩 Negative maybe 1.5 at best a couple of times, cool feeling though 😁 love the weightless feeling
5:38 with advanced remote pilot, this would not be an issue. If we can create an augmented reality system with a recreated cockpit, you would not need a pilot and you could pull as many g's as necessary. That's the technology of the future, I'm looking forward to designing it.
"Dont do it" ok thanks for the tip when I fly on my fighter jet.
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@@FaustoTheBoozehound there's even more bot accounts saying this
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“Anything more than 3G’s is not gonna be an enjoyable experience”
Me on a 5G phone: “are you sure about that?”
clever
i wonder if you get 8G's if you use a 5G phone during a 3G maneuver 🤔
actually yes . you will have a bad time with your soft kill device.
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A friend of mine was preparing a practice flight for an aerobatic competition and asked me if I wanted to join him. Sure, why not? I like aerobatics. After two outside loops with -4.5 G, I looked like Dracula for the next seven days.
An outside loop is no joke, -4.5 is impressive!
@@HasardLee, I will never do it again!
Did about the same in a Super Decathlon, had me seeing red. Not fun.
First time I did a rolling circle in a Pitts and experienced +4 and -4 every 90 degrees of turn I was highly motivated to reassess my choice of competitive outlets.
holy shit lol... maybe you are Dracula. XD
I have on many occasions experienced i’m guessing at least -2 G’s and up to possibly 6 G’s while sitting on the toilet.
I have come close to G Loc. I try to utilize AGSM in these situations but sometimes it sneaks up on me while I am totally focused on completing the maneuver. A key indicator that I am in trouble is my hearing will begin to echo and I will start hearing “Highway To The Danger Zone” by Kenny Loggins. Fortunately these maneuvers usually go off without a hitch but when they don’t, I might need to scrub the mission at the first sign of a hangup.
Thank you for your service and taking the time to make these videos 🇺🇸
Fucking gold bro
Same. Had to hit my speed brake....because I wasn't keeping ahead of the toilet seat. Full slats; almost stalled it.
Beware... G Loc on toilet has been identified as leading cause of brown missing the white. Used to work at Boeing, those whiny fighter pilots complaining we didn't include full latrine in their cockpit. I just tell them to pretend lots of 'G's... pinch and pucker. Got a few death threats, they have no sense of humor.
Picturing someone passing out from g-loc pinching a loaf made me chuckle.
It's all in the breathing...😖💩💥🎆
I went on my first flight with a pilot who heard I’d never been on a small plane before. Mid flight he asked me if I knew what negative Gs were. I said I didn’t and then he asked if I throw up easily. I said no, and he tipped the nose of the plane down and I made a really weird noise as the butterflies started. I also got to do some gentle turns. It was a fun flight and now I’m going to complete college with the goal of being a pilot.
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I remember seeing a video of an airshow pilot of a stunt plane who pulled sustained negative g in his routine through an inverted loop. He described it as an extremely unpleasant experience. I forgot most of the specifics, but painful was certainly on the list of things to expect. It's a lot easier in the games, that's for sure.
Lots of aircrafts can’t fly negative G for very long. The Tomcat could fly negative G for 10 seconds with afterburner, 20 seconds at mil power(mil power is full throttle without afterburner)
Trueeee
it's tough to keep feeding the engine
Well you will run into that problem at AB as stated the fuel flow requirements are huge for AB and inverted or negative G you are automatically limiting the pumps thanks to physics.
'Bozo' Lloyd who did all of the Maverick dogfight scenes and the fly-by in 'Top Gun' said, Tomcat with certain trim and power settings could go up to 1 minute inverted before you had to go back upright. They did that while trying to shoot the 'birdie' scene for real initially, but the F-5 would start falling behind due to the lack of power as the F-14 was right above it so they had to use the split-screen.
@@HasardLee due to fuel starvation?
"Bruises on your brain probably aren't a good thing" I mean, when you put it like that, I think I'd rather get g-lock and and pass out rather than have a stroke or a bruised brain.
Really? If you pass out, you're DEAD! Bruised brain is not good either, but you'll probably survive.
@@southnc63 they do have the automatic correcting and leveling systems in modern fighter aircraft which has saved a lot of lives. Granted, in a combat scenario, any reduction in capacity will likely lead to getting killed. I was more referring to which would I rather: get knocked out and trust the plane to level out OR have a stroke and just die right then and there.
@@zakleclaire1858 Fair enough. It would be cool if they could develop software that enables the plane to land itself at nearest approved airport on its own in such a scenario as you described.
@@southnc63 oh that would be awesome! They already have fly-by-wire and autopilot so it shouldn't be too hard to create a "fly to base" feature if the pilot is unable to do so.
@@southnc63 ILS
Love that Redbull pour demo... loved the fact that it's a banned flight substance while flying. Ironically humorous.
Hasard, you are amazing. I asked you for this content, and you delivered. Thank you so much.
This was great. Yesterday I did some aerobatic training in a P51 a friend has. I’ve been up about five times now. It is a D model with controls in back. I love it. I am 71 so it affects me more than you young dudes. I’ve been pulling almost 4+ in various maneuvers and that’s about all I can handle, but getting better. I just love it. Of course the Mustang is a brilliant Aircraft. Not a jet, I realize....but truly a lot of fun. I enjoyed your explanations.
From my experience when I got an F-16 back seat ride if you're not conditioned and accustomed to it, pulling 9G's is actually quite painful. Negative G's usually make you puke!
Depends on the person. I got three rides and none of those were me at peak physical condition. Pulling 9 wasn't "quite painful" but it also wasn't fun. Only got to zero G so cannot say about into the negatives.
Man, when my dad showed me an outside loop in the aerobatic biplane we had (-4 to -5 G I think, though only for a few moments) and I was just like nope! that hurts, don't need to do that again. Positive G or regular inverted stuff I had no problem with. He was a Tomcat guy and like you said, he always said there was really no reason to do negative G stuff in that airplane, but for whatever reason he got a kick out of it in his. You're really informative and this is a great video.
Reminds me of the Ted Harduvel crash. His F-16 crashed due to wire chafing and he lost basic instruments while drifting into a cloud bank and didn’t realize he was flying upside down.
Love your video's my dream was to be a fighter pilot but life unfortunately led me in a different direction. It's excellent to get information from a real world fighter pilot and respect what you do!
Hasard you're amazing. It's great to see you in moustache .
Are you a moustache rider?
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Bit of a Freddie Mercury
Aerodynamic moustache
He looks good with and without moustache….
Thank you, good info. As an aspiring engineer. Thank you. It's one thing to be in a lab, it's another to be in the sky.
"Thinking enemies"
Ace combat: Am I a joke to you?
One of the things that surprised me when I first started playing DCS was the fact that you have little "dive" (but actually climb) authority when inverted, but when you think about it from a physics standpoint it makes perfect sense. If you're flying level inverted, you are already "diving" at 2G, because in normal level flight your airframe is producing 1G of lift, so in order to counteract that you have to overcome the aircraft's natural 1G of lift, and then add on another 1G to stay level.
I had just seen a Czech 330SC pilot pull -7.8Gs for about 2 seconds. crazy stuff
To pile on to your story from the flight sim instructor, originally, if the F-16 lost power the flight controls would default to full down and of course the jet would nosedive. This was determined to be the cause of several aircrew losses early in the F-16 program. Later the Flight Control Computer was reprogrammed for the flight controls to go to neutral in the event of power loss.
With all of the different sources of power through the inverter/regulators I find it had to believe a F-16 FLCS ever lost power. If any ever managed to lose ALL of those sources at once the FLCS is the least of their concerns.
Honestly, this is the first video I have seen for your channel but you are very concise and can describe things so well with minimal verbiage. Nothing short of what I would expect from fighter pilots. One of the most elite minds of the military in my opinion. Instant sub !
I'm just here to say I love when they fly upside down
Listening to this, it makes me respect you guys more. Mann I didn’t know about the physical and health risk of G Force’s💯💪🏽
I enjoy seeing pilots in the cockpit I do pray for all of their safety. I also enjoyed getting to learn about why it's good to avoid doing negative G's
I flew the F-15C, but before the air force I was an ATP flying corporate jets for a living, and flying airshows and competition for fun and supplemental income.
I was surprised to find that flying my Pitts and Extra was much more demanding, physically, than flying the T-38 or F-15. Roll rates were similar, my aerobatic planes had similar positive g limits and higher negative g limits. We regularly flew -4, -4.5gs in competition, while -2.5 was very rare even in the eagle.
The "RED BULL POUR OUT SCENE" tells everything about what's going on high there.
Thanks for the upload👍
can you talk about the training red flag? If you done that training of course
many times. I'll look into it
@@HasardLee thanks, your the best!
@@arielkravchinski2616 Pilots say "Fox 2" when they fire a IR guided missile (i.e Aim 9)
The biggest problem I see in the amateur aviation enthusiast world is that they think Red Flag is a competition where their favorite aircraft come to be tested against US fighters, then return with national press about how they smoked F-15s and F-16s, were banned from further attendance because they’re too good, etc. Red Flag is not about, nor has it ever been about testing one airframe or Air Force against another. It’s about building a Blue Force populated with various types of aircraft, who will then learn to work together to fight a campaign or series of campaigns so that the pilots get at least 10 simulated high threat environment missions that do their best to replicate the challenges of air combat.
The threat force is called Red Air, and also has a growing array of ground threat platforms to simulate enemy radar, SAM, and AAA sites. The Aggressor units study very detailed threat capabilities fed to them by the National intelligence apparatus of the US and other partner nations, then emulate those flight profiles, tactics, weapons profiles, and countermeasures used by various threat air forces in the world. They aren’t just up there seeing who can humiliate Blue Air for fun.
Each Red Flag exercise is different than the previous one. No 2 have been the same. If you look at the attending units and airframes throughout Red Flag history, it varies wildly from iteration to iteration. You could have a bunch of bombers and F-15Es flying as the primary Blue Force in one RF, and a large foreign participation Blue Air component in the next with guys from UK in Typhoons and Tornados, French Mirages, Italian Tornados and Typhoons, Indian Air Force Su-30MKIs, USMC Hornets, Aussie Hornets, Israeli F-16Is, etc.
Then another one will be US-only with F-22As, F-35As, USMC F-35Bs, USN Growlers, B-1Bs, B-2As, etc.
They’ve even started using F-22As and F-35As as Red Air, with dedicated F-35As already assigned to Nellis Aggressor Squadrons 2 years ago. They reactivated the 65th Aggressor Squadron and started populating it with older F-35As from Eglin AFB that were being used for weapons test and evaluation if I recall. Eglin is getting new F-35As off the later Lot production line now, and sending its older F-35As to Nellis. Edwards AFB has also been sending F-35As to Nellis, but I think these are part of one of the squadrons that tests and trains for CAS with F-16Cs.
There’s a 1970s movie made about Red Flag back in the days of the F-4 that’s worth watching for a major step back in time.
We used to do Red Flag with our F-4's back in the early 90's. From what I understand they did pretty well for as old as they were. I wasn't a pilot though, I was a mechanic but I went a few times.
I wanna see Hasard with a beard next lol. I feel like I wouldn't recognize him anymore
Cant have beards in the military
@@alejandroli2 I see religious people wearing turbins with beards all the time
@@sharpemang not true at all lol are u even in the military?
@@sharpemang I’m flight line 2A354C and haven’t seen pilots with beards
@@alejandroli2 knowledge is power. Use the computer to learn, not to be ignorant
I read a story about a fellow flying a pitts for the first time back in the 40s, didn't realise how sensitive the aircraft was to stick input and he went for the outside loop and pushed -7Gs, managed to land the aircraft and his eyes were entirely red from burst blood vessels!
You just answered all the questions that I asked on someone's RUclips channel about negative G's. I'm not sure if it was yours or C.W. Lemoine's but I hadn't even thought about the fact that there is no straining technique that can force blood out of your head. And I'm sure putting the equivalent of a G-suit around your upper body and neck wouldn't be very healthy either. So thanks for the eye opening info.
Thank you Cmdr Hasard, great stuff and lots of info for us aficcionados!
I am your new subscriber. My only words
Seems like You are gem of a person. Your son will draw a lot of inspiration from you..
Thank you for your service.
In competition aerobatics, we have to be prepared to fly maneuvers in either direction. That means pilots will routinely see say +7 and -5g's, and up over +10/-8 for some monoplanes in Unlimited category competition. And of course this is without G-suits, so practice and conditioning are naturally important. It's also important to point out that G-loc is a function of positive G levels and *time*. In competition we pull high G's to turn a 90 deg corner that lasts 5 seconds (for example), whereas an F35 in ACM may be expected to pull 8 G's for 30-seconds in a turning fight.
In regards to the risks of negative G's, we would end up with abrasions on our hips (rolling turns were the worst), and pinpoint bruises on our eyelids at that level (for me above -5G's), where capillaries seem to be weaker than elsewhere. But I never ever heard of anyone coming back with their face "all-bruised up". That's nonsense, and more likely the result of wind blast in a high-speed ejection. Other issues related to negative-G's included the "wobblies" (dizziness associated with dislocation of the Otoliths), but brain bleeding (stroke) never happened to my knowledge, and was something a pilot/physician advised me was highly unlikely given the fluid pressure equalization provided by our nicely spherical skull.
Another awesome video @Hasard.
On my incentive ride in 1993 at Tyndall AFB we were tdy from Moody as soon as the pilot got to 18000 ft he leveled off and the negative g’s was wild I loved it. Now when I watch people going on a flight they roll the jet over to keep the positive g’s
Not to say any of this is wrong, but as someone who has regularly done -3 and occasionally -4 as an aerobatic pilot, I would just say that you can build up negative G tolerance just as these guys do for sustained high positive G. Don't get me wrong, it never gets comfortable, but its not unthinkable to work up to regularly pushing -6, it's just not something a fighter jet or any other non-aerobatic specific built plane can do safely.
I regularly saw +9 -7g doing unlimited competition. I suspect the fighter pilot myths about the evils of neg g are to scare pilots out of habits that may bend store hardpoints or send fod into the canopy.
Thanks for the advice man ! I'll pay more attention the next time I fly my F-22 parked in the backyard.
Thanks for explaining this. 👍🏻
Rock and roll brother.
Love the videos as always. stay amazing bro......
Great presentation (notably, the clarification on man vs. unmanned)… Positive G’s vs. negative G’s are very different. Having experienced both, I would say that the negative G’s are incredibly nasty. It’s like someone or something pushing you down with great force while all of your inner parts being forces up. This is extremely more uncomfortable than any positive G forces…
OK a few bits. I was a maintainer on the F-16 for almost 20 of my 25 years (1986 to 2006) and I've never heard that story. Add in that the FLCS is quad redundant unless there was some REALLY bad code in the FLCC a single channel not agreeing with the others will not cause it to do that. Even in analog FLCS days it has always been quad redundant in everything but air data where it is triple redundant. Not to say something like this couldn't have happened in test or out at Edwards but you relating that is the first time I've heard that.
As far as flying I had three incentive flights during that time and it only took the first flight to make me a true believer of Spatial Disorientation. Pilot did an Immelmann and, of course, you initially end that flying upside down. Well he left us flying upside down for several seconds but it all happened so fast that my body didn't process it all and so I am sitting there in the back seat looking UP at the Earth and feeling no different than I do right now typing this message at my keyboard. Absolutely must trust those instruments to tell you your attitude.
The third flight was when I was stationed at Osan AB and it was a LtC and man that dude could bomb. After the first few he just asked me where I wanted him to put the BDU-33 and that is exactly where it went. However dropping that many bombs in quick fashion meant we were constantly pulling like 5-6 G. I didn't even realize I had picked up the G measles until the pilots in debrief pointed it out to me. Guess they just shortened it to geasles afterwards.
Forget negative Gs. That is just no fun at all. Only time I ever felt like I might have gotten nauseous was on the take off from Osan and twice we must have hit pockets of disturbed air or something because the best way I can explain it is it felt like there were two huge rubber bands on the radome. One going down and one going up and someone smacked the nose and it just porpoised in pitch until it settled down.
Other than that the F-16 was a freaking hoot to be flying in. Beats any amusement park ride you'll ever get on.
Such a great, informative video! Cheers
Learned a lot and loved the video!!
I got a ride in an F-15 for winning Airman of the Quarter and we pulled 7.5 pos G's. Watching WWII live clips of B-17s spiraling down to the ground I can't imagine the amount of G's they were pulling which made it impossible to get out.
Great content! I love the insight you provide.
Thank you for your service!!
It's good to hear some reality about the true nature of physics. Too many believe the crap out of Hollywood and then call it truth and get insulted when you try to explain reality to them.
Perhaps just to add to your final point. Wings and more specifically airfoil are optimized to provide a lift vector in a specific direction. So, turning will likely always be better into this vector rather than away from it.
When he said "when you are inverted", it made me smile 😂
I’ve done -4 to -5, you look fabulous after. ;)
Grumpy (from being ridiculed) and purple face, you guys are nice; I would've expected call sign: Raisin (lol, great vid! )
Thanks for the informative video and thanks for your service🇺🇸
Love the stache!! great video !
I know I'm late to the party but you are rocking that 'stache, dude.
You were in a 4g inverted dive with a Mig 28? I immediately thought about Charlie here. Lol
You sir are fascinating!!!!thank you for your service!!!!!!!👍👍👍👍👍
Very informative. Thank you!
Great presentation and information-thanks. Love too hear about the type of brain a fighter has. I love the fact we all have different brains. Great stuff. Nicko from NewvZealand.
OHHH GODDDDD THAT MUSTACHE
SOO GOOD
Thanks I was just about to pull some negative G's
Hasard. Always so cool 😎👌🏼
About a -.5 g is the greatest thing ever! Love pushovers! Akin to that first drop on a large roller-coaster. Can't get enough of them :) I imagine -2 or more would suck though.
Thanks for all you do brother, and thanks for sharing life as a pilot, god bless and protect always, was it mustache March when you made this video? :)
I'm in love with everything Hornet kinda fanatically, but that Viper bubble canopy is a thing of beauty no doubt.. Makes me jealous every time I see it, despite me only "flying" in DCS.
I also fly in DCS and the 16 and 18 are my favorites by far. 18 has great low speed characteristics.
4:15 that transition scared the crap out of me, I thought it was a plane flying out of the clouds towards the other plane, haha.
I enjoy your informative vids.
Thanks
After watching this I have more respect for Blue Angel pilots.. Coz they're pulling heavy Gs without having a g suit....that's awesome
I'm pretty sure the Blue Angels pilots still have G-Suits. It's a vital piece of equipment
@@brettblades9320 They do not. The inflation would cause them to move the stick and that has bad results when you are in close formation.
Thank you Sir, Good Information 👍
I didn't believe this guy was a real air force Pilot until I saw that moustache seconds after clicking the video link. Legit! Jokes aside, you're a legend!
Buddy these are fascinating. 👌🏻
Thanks .. learned something.. only thing I cant agree on . Is unmanned flight will be sooner than you say. Theyll still be flown by humans but not from the cockpit
And a jammer disconnects it and it falls on the ground...
Competition aerobatics in my Pitts you build an horrendous G tolerance. High numbers but all instantaneous not sustained like military G. Plus/Minus 9G was common. Negative G had advantages as you didn’t have to tense your body and had excellent visibility of the 1km aerobatic box. Also your fin and rudder were always in clean air not blanketed by the elevator.
If you are inverted, you are not experiencing -1G.
You are still experiencing 1G, you are just experiencing it upside down.
Negative G refers to the force felt when you manoeuvre in such a way that you briefly carry momentum upwards, after acceleration has ceased. This causes a weightless feeling.
Positive G is the force that you feel under that acceleration. Pilots often think of negative G as, blood rushing to your head, and positive G as blood rushing to your feet, which is generally a crude and inaccurate way of thinking of it
I live in Peoria AZ and the F35's fly over my house all the time. I noticed that some F35's fly over my house with their gear down? Why is this? Im still a good bit away from Luke. The F16's they fly over do not do this. Also why is the F35 2 to 3 times as loud as the F16 when it flies over?
The F-35’s F135-PW-100 motor has as much thrust in mil power as an F-16C Block 50/52’s has in full afterburner. It’s a beast of a fighter engine-the most powerful fighter engine ever built. It has 10,000lb more thrust than the SR-71’s J58, which is an absolute monster of an engine if you’ve ever seen one in person.
@@LRRPFco52 Well TBH comparing to the 71 is kind of an apples to oranges comparison as at speed the SR-71 bypasses most air and gets its power from AB. As much power as a 16 in full AB at mil is impressive though.
@@Stubbies2003 I was comparing the F135 motor with the J58, not the F-35's speed with the SR-71's. F-35 max speed is exactly half of the SR-71's.
Hopefully here in the 🇵🇭 we could have proper fighter jets very soon.. I want to be an air force combat pilot so bad but we only got trainer jets from ROK and dozens of attack helis that are nearing their service lives
Sadly our country will never have powerful fighter jets because we can't afford them
@@JayHeartwing Poor country moment
@@shinygemsbro True.
As a fellow Filipino, I feel that
Man that's an awesome fighter stash 💪
What really hurts is going from positive G's to negative G's and vise-versa in an instant. You are grunting trying to hold it all up and all of a sudden you are grunting trying to hold it all down. I like aerobatics where you know what to expect in the next few seconds. Combat is hard and it hurts. You may not know what your situation is going to be 2 seconds from now.
The first time we pulled negative Gs was coming off a (practice) iron bomb drop and started what’s called “GLB-ing” (sp) which was a SAM evasive maneuver that consisted of both weaving and bobbing vertically. It’s a low G maneuver of maybe 1.0-1.2 Neg Gs. I felt like I was going to come out of the top of the canopy. No Bueno.
You are a boss!
Great info!
1:55 really want to know the conversation of asking his CO of cracking a cold one on the plane
Hey Hasard how come it doesn't show how many followers you have? Love the videos. Keep up the good work.
how about manouvers that combine both positive and negative g? Are they even possible? Like rapid descent: begin just by pointing the nose lower and then invert to make it really tight. Would it be faster than getting inverted first and than doing vertical u-turn? Would it save more energy? Would it move the plane out if the line of gunfire faster?
Yea I heard that Wolfman story too. Not only does the blood go to the head… the Neg G is like hanging upside for too long along with a shock load such as a mountain climber would experience in a fall ( tied off ). The internal organs press up against the heart and lungs and will cause death
Freddie Mercury flying jets! Haha! Love the channel!
Dream job my friend!!!
The pilot may not be replaced in the near future but his vision will be augmented (decluttered by computer). Imagine a ground attack pilot is maneuvering for attack. The target is nestled in and around hi obstructions. Imagine Swiss mountains. There is a path in/out but involves some very precise flying avoiding obstacles. The target was actually acquired by another aircraft/satellite higher and out of range (yes, he could get popped with guided munitions, but that’s not the point, this demonstrates a future attack system). The targeting aircraft data links the target info. The attack aircraft flips a switch and his canopy become fully augmented. Think opaque to the outside. What the attack pilot sees is a representation of the actual target nestled in and around solid cones. The height of these cones represents actual height but the bushyness changes dynamically depending on speed of the attacking aircraft and “it’s flight performance envelope ” basically he just has to keep out of the cones, the slower he goes the more narrow, the faster he goes they get more bushy ultimately looking like a hedge when at super high speed.
Pilots are faced with information overload, a system like this is a virtual filter. The pilots needs to know can his aircraft can get to the target within the design envelope and not wind up in the ditch.
Ultimately the pilot will be replaced with a real-time AI based flying system. Currently the aircraft performance envelop is restricted by the pilot not the machine. Stands to reason the ultimate goal is to get the pilot out of the cockpit, he/she/it is the limiting factor.
My only experience of Neg G was in the rear of a US Blackhawk in Cyprus, not strapped in either!
Dude I loved Bohemian Rhapsody and your Flash soundtrack. Can you sing a song in your next video?
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Just kidding, Love all the nitty-gritty behind the scenes, nerd info, what goes into the job, making the sausage videos. Thank you for your service.
Love your channel so informative and answers all my questions so thank you for that. Question why did you switch planes from the F-16 to F-35? Second question I’m a professional artist and would love to team up and draw a portrait of you in your plane, have you sign it and auction it off for charities that I currently work with. Would that be of interest to you? Also we can make prints and give them away to your fans the same way you do with your patches. I’d be happy to provide you with a jet I drew for a client. Thank you in advance 🙏🏾
Hi Antoine, I switched to the F-35 because it's a much newer and more capable aircraft. The Viper will always be my favorite aircraft, but you want the best tools available. The art sounds interesting, please send some more info @ justin@professionalsplaybook.com
@@HasardLee awww I see, so you always want to be flying the best plane possible and keeping up with the times as they say. To have the tools to put you in the best position. As for the art thank I shall do just that, I so appreciate the reply will continue to watch and hopefully win one of those patches for my brother. who’s been in love with planes since a baby so thank you again 🙏🏾
So cool I wanted to be a pilot god wanted me to play music but wow so cool to hear about positive and negative g all of us land dwellers will never get to really understand that and thanks for proving that Tom cruise’s maverick story of being inverted in a negative 4 g dive means he wouldn’t be pretty anymore lol
Hey Hasard, I'm a big fan from India.
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Just wanted to know your opinion about *Sukhoi SU 30 MKI* and *Dassault Rafale* .
And if given a choice, which one would you prefer ?
Please reply
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@@nevergonna....7066 great choice brother
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Glad to see someone who thinks beyond all the hype and drama.
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LOVE THE STASH MAN!
Great info, thank you sir
This video made me disoriented imagining the scenarios you described. Never knew about AGSM and how a G suit worked.
Did -4 doing aerobatic flights in Hawaii. Least favourite thing I've ever done.
you should be pulling a max of -2G for short periods of time.
@@puffcatco yea I didn't go to do aerobatics in an unlimited aircraft to do Max - 2
@@elliotsamuel i have -3 in a steen skybolt, really hate minus g, hurts alot, feels like your eyes gonna pop out
4:49 so why don't any other fighters have canopies like the F-16? I've played with a lot of fighters in VR on DCS and that's the most striking thing I've noticed about the F-16, there isn't anything obstructing your view. Some jets are worse than others in that regard, you have pretty good vision in the hornet but, the tomcat feels like you're looking through a porthole, but nothing comes close to the viper canopy. Why isn't it the standard?
Never really flown negative g but positive up to 4.5 in a T6 Texan once that was fun 🤩
Negative maybe 1.5 at best a couple of times, cool feeling though 😁 love the weightless feeling
5:38 with advanced remote pilot, this would not be an issue. If we can create an augmented reality system with a recreated cockpit, you would not need a pilot and you could pull as many g's as necessary. That's the technology of the future, I'm looking forward to designing it.