Shroud Talks About Why He'll Never Go Pro Again
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Shroud: **puts on glasses**
”what is rich?”
Hey Vsauce Michael here, No other Michael.
I saw this comment when he said it LOL
i read this comment right when he said that lol
for me, rich is have i9 rtx 2080 32 memory
rich=having a great deal of money or assets; wealthy.
6:00 why Shroud not going pro
thanks
Legend
King
thanks
So is he not going pro on valorant now??
"I'm not smart, I'm just not dumb"
- Shroud, 2020
Mooojojojojo
Literally the best reply that fucking moron could've gotten
'Why you think you're so smart, you just play video games"
Fucking moron doesn't understand this guy can buy his lowlife with the money he earns by playing these very video games
Atleast he's playing what r u doing? Watching? 😂
its deep
ay he aint wrong tho LOL
This answer shows that he is actually incredibly intelligent and very very self-aware- Dang I enjoy Shroud
The amount of people that didnt realize his tweet saying "I'm going pro in valorant" was an april fools joke blows my mind
I still didn't realise lmao
it was a pipe dream we know:,( you gotta have hope though
I think some are trolling him
Unless... 😉
I think he also announced his retirement in April Fools Day isn't it
People have this idea that pros quit playing professionally in their early 20's because they age out of their peak ability, but it seems like most pros I've seen talk about it say its actually just burn out. Imagine playing a single game 10+ hours a day, with the same people on your team and the same couple of teams of enemies. All day, every day, for years and years and years. That's the perfect mixture for burnout right there, and if you could change and be a variety streamer, making more money and having fun while doing it, its a no brainer imo.
Stupid not to, actually . Why wouldn't you , right ?
Not pro, but I played Mordhau on a competitive tournament level and can confirm that it's such a burn. I still play the game every day but the requirement to play and pressure to stay ahead of the curve was draining to say the least. Cant imagine playing at pro level in a game like CS.
true. as someone who almost went pro in rocket league, i burned out because of mental illness rather than peaking. in fact i was on the come up and my depression and anxiety and OCD got the better of me and I haven't opened the game in half a year.
Hmmm but why do professional sport players keep playing their game for 10 to 15 years? Is it better than playing a game with constant updates or play a sport with stagnant rules? Something about esports make pros not last as long as sport pros
@@stints2749 Its a lot easier to quit a pro esport than it is to quit pro sports. Way more pressure and way more publicity on those guys. Also they're under contracts worth millions. Could tie into why a lot of domestic abuse cases pop up surrounded professional sports players.
“A person is smart, people are dumb, dangerous, panicky animals”
That's a classic MIB reference
K
prathi sahrudh bruh that’s where it’s from I forgot. 🤣
The problem is people are panicky which is stupid now but panicking helped us evolve from Apes so it's a little price to pay.( or just don't panic lol)
thats how creatures evolve and survive
That que was so long you had a whole conversation.
Good thing u made it shorter
Yeah man. But its spelled queue :)
:0
Probably since there aren't that many top level people playing in 5 stacks all day.
Ahmed Bhiri Snake good one
this aged well
they say he is still trying to find a game.....
@@sulizu0186 he is talking about his queue time bud.
FUck the virus.
@@James-iz9fy oops
That's how not interesting that game is; nobody is playing that shit i know it's on closed beta or something but come on i've played some closed beta games it atleast have a decent amount of players in that beta, i think that streamers hyped it so much thats the game lost it's charm that's the problem with the new releases they always want to have the success of another game and starts dumping all of their resources on advertising the game instead of developing it let's be honest this game is no way near counter strike and probably never will be.
If it gets released in sea it would blow the shit up. Riot is dumb as hell why would they go west first
imagine being so good u can choose whether or not u want to go pro...
Jack Langan yeah, like every other Pro level player?!?!?
Chocolate Thunder i mean shroud could go pro in pretty much any game tho
He literally can't go pro. He has a contract with Mixer, there is no way he can just go pro. He would not be able to balance streaming and going pro. He wouldn't have the time. Also he is just getting older and older.
DaRkJ4ck he has the skill to go pro. also the video literally explains why he won’t go pro. if he wanted to drop everything and go pro good for him. i’m speaking hypothetically
Not all pro can become good streamer, and not all good streamer can become pro.. shroud is the latter case, his pro carrier was below mediocre..... streaming on the otherhand.....
6:41 “Call of Duty ain’t shit” bro that had me dying 😂
Cuz COD didn't paid big stack to shroud for playing it
@@praveshtamang2732 can't tell if this is a joke or not.
@@praveshtamang2732 actually im pretty sure he did get paid to play COD, played it for the week stipulated by the contract an then stopped because COD is for pussy boys who think they know military strategy
If u isten he is comparing COD to cs and valorant were strategies are needed unlike cod because playing as a team is key in such games unlike cod
Lmaooo well it is true, cod is an easy game
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” - George Carlin
"Stupider" on purpose ???
"stupider"
That man is really a legend
@@mustared5948 first off its a quote if your dumb ass didnt realize by the name at the end and quotations...also im pretty sure thats how he said it and second it was a random copy paste off google lmao, you nerds amaze me every day with this bullshit.... i think the lock down may really be getting to you when you spend your days spell checking other peoples youtube comments LOL XD
@@adamms96 ok
“COD doesn’t count” lmao
You are a Liarn't.
disrespecting scump, even tho scump is pretty much the simple of cod imo :D
@@mirrar_2800 Maybe so, but it's cod, not CS.
@@mirrar_2800 dude cod is just such an easy game u cant compare it with anything
@@m_e_i_k_r_o_3_0_33 By my comparison I'm not trying to compare CS (simple) to COD (scump). But still scump is one of the Most-winning Cod pros and therefore I think he is, as shroud said in this vid, slightly above other COD pros. And COD might be easy, but being pro at any game is hard af. There is even a professional scene in folding paperplanes, even tho folding a paperplane is ez af, hope this makes sense :D
Shroud's editors and RUclips managers need WAY, WAY more recognition than they do right now, I wish shroud would sort of talk about them and maybe bring them up on stream or give them more publicity.
@C. A. Husted I agree to an extent but I still feel like they deserve credit from the audience who get to see all of this great content.
This video is not even edited. Am I missing something?
One day I want shroud to be some kind of Esports analyst or announcer for certain shooters. Not anytime soon, but it would be great to see him and other old players we've seen for years be there for the future of competitive esports. Make it like ESPN
Does Shrowd have podcasts where he just talks like this???
Cause he streams on mixer and his viewers got cut 3x from twitch lol
@@BrianFurios Your answer makes no sense lol. The original poster asked a 'yes or no' question lol. But no, I don't think Shroud has a podcast, but he definitely should. There is a niche and market for pro gamers to make a podcast to talk about topics, and they should definitely do it.
@@jonathanphan3736 i mean,he lives with his friends so might as well do it😂😂😂
"I'm not smart... I'm just not dumb". Some of you need to read this over and over and over and over again.
couldn’t even find a game with those glasses
Shroud 2020: Ill Never Go Pro
SEN Shroud 2022: Well this didnt age well
certified clown moment for shroud
Im so glad he's finally more outgoing and less afraid of actually voicing his thoughts, even if i dont agree with them...it took him a good while.
The whole what is rich thing somehow reminded me of the breaking bad quote where Hank says to Walt "You're the smartest guy I know, but you're too stupid to see."
How?
That was a very sad scene too :(
@@bated_8247 like before that question shroud was saying why are people so dumb as to go out there and risk their lives by gathering and protesting....the only reason they are doing that is bcoz they are poor and have to work 9 to 5...so if they were rich like shroud they wouldn't have to go there and protest and they wont be a dumb person.. the question is directly aimed at shroud are you a "smart" person bcoz u arent out there protesting or are just "rich"so you get to stay in the comfort of your home and judge people...while shroud is so "smart " like we already know by his gaming...but he fails to realize this whilst he is juding poor and desperate people so thats why the breaking bad quote fits. as Walter also was also very smart at a certain thing (like cooking ultra meth and doing it right under the nose of Dea) but he was too stupid to read the situation where hank was about to get killed.
@@drinkmorewater232 But Shroud later said "there is a logical reason" for why people protest and even said that they must be doing it for work etc. When he called the people dumb was because of the people going to the BEACH, that's leisure time, that's not essential work. Big difference. You misunderstood and jumped too quickly to conclusion.
@@nikch1 but the question came later and he didn't realize how it was meant so it fits with the breaking bad quote thats all bro
Shroud has talked about this like 5 times already lol ..
Which is why there is finally video on it lmao
And yet still people keep asking lol
He literally tweeted and still has the tweet up where he says “I’m going pro in Valorant and nothing is going to stop me” then he says this shit. It’s just contradictory and why ppl keep asking.
@@gamingsoup563 how many people dont realize that was an April fools joke HOLY SHIT
@@gamingsoup563 that was "literally" an April fool's joke
Shroud wearing spectacles.. now i have no excuse left for potato aim.
what is an "spectacles"
Glasses
@@miyahara6059 no
@@Dizzeke then wtf are u talking about
@@Dizzeke testicles
He almost never does mouse cam so I thought that was someone's foot lol.
I thought his arm was crooked and skinny for a sec too
I thought it was his own foot and was using to control his mouse 😂
I_like_Checken why u have my pocture
@@drag0nfight3r29 N I C E
Donney Souriya it’s cause he cheats
imagine the day where gaming is actual virtually simulated reality, that would be Pog.
By that time sports would probably die out
@@HaPham-jn7jk Gaming would be the new sports
u mean like 3d glasses with bodysensors n stuff?
@@daniellostlund no, I mean, actual virtually simulated reality, like a lucid dream.
@@SightSeeker22 I think about this all the time. Devs that make horror games would be sued for giving people heart attacks lol
"im not stupid -Breaks wrist from breaking to hard on a scooter.
Edoubleo 100 *too
Talk about being stupid
Braking*, too* -_-
Talk about being very stupid
Could also correct "I'm" and his/her failed use of quotation marks.. Bud, you probably shouldn't be calling people dumb. Lol
Shroud: "I have no idea what the future holds"
Some random: "This guy's talking straight out of his ass"
1:53 "I didn't say I'm smart, I'm just not dumb!" Ah, humble Shroud. :3
6:40 has me in tears
Legends say they're still in queue
shroud : we are all in the same playing field
Astralis : hold my b exec
Shroud: "More zoomers"
*Me looking at my anime waifu*
I'm sorry shroud
Who's it
^
Shroud do be looking fine with those glasses on.....
He looking fresh
aidan mesh he’s looking fine without those glasses already 😳
Ya'll fruity af
wait, since when he's wearing a glasses ? and why ?
Pasha zahran like a year ago he mentioned he is nearsighted. he also said he will never wear glasses.
and today here he is with two pairs, one for far & one for close lol
Genetics does definitely play some role; reaction times, hand-eye co-ordination and mindset are all affected by genetics to differing degrees. That said, without training, you'll get nowhere. Same as any sport. And you can obviously train reaction times, hand-eye co-ordination and so on but the best of the best will often be that much further ahead due to their genetic advantage compared to say others that put in the same time, same training but are just a little worse. Mindset though is the biggest one which CAN be genetics but is often just as much developed through nurture. If you don't have the mindset to take failure as a process and you let it get to you too often or you don't have that natural aggressiveness I guess, to really go for what you want, that drive to succeed, then you won't make it. That's the biggest factor for pretty much anything in life. Some people though are born with differing wiring that doesn't naturally tend to them being that way and others are brought up in a way that they don't have that drive or focus. Changing it, even if possible, is incredibly difficult once you've become a full grown adult. Usually there's a core of ourselves that just doesn't change no matter what and if you don't have that urge to be the best naturally inside you, I don't believe you can 100% change that. That said, there is still a LOT you can do and you can still become an incredible player or sportsmen, musician, whatever it is. You just might not become the VERY best.
Mindset is not fucking genetics wtf
Shoud: “glasses on”
Vsauce theme song plays
“What is being rich?”
"Streaming is my dream"
Yea me too Shroud...me too (typing this while being stuck in a corporate shit job I don't like but need to stay in due to financial obligations)
Relate to this on such a higher level. You feel us all in that same situation.
I’m with my friend. Just started streaming myself and would love to make it a career. Just keep grinding and I hope you make it as a streamer!
Ay man save up ,balance it but is going to be a struggle but if you put your mind to it I know you’ll get it
Its a pain in the ass but I feel like you need to look at it as a hobby before looking at it as a profession. Have fun with it and eventually it'll evolve into something!
I can feel you dude
reaction time can be genetic, problem solving too, level of IQ, hand eye coordination. Factors which will affect how good a player can be. So there is genetic elements which can mean some players are naturally better than others.
Shroud made the right decision as he has made his mark in a lot of games, That's what i dream of doing 😅
People don't realize that when you go pro it's no longer just a game, it's a job and a lifestyle. The amount of sheer will and dedication you need for that is immense, people who don't take that seriously will burnout quicker than a flame on water. People are in love with the idea of a pro, not what it means to actually be one. Playing the same game for 8+ hours a day with the same people is torture for people who wants to be a pro to "play" the game they love, or to have "fun". That is the hard truth when things like pro gaming becomes mainstream. If you're a NFL player, you just don't practice football, you practice workouts, lifting, diets, etc. In Esports you practice teamwork, mechanics, and macros. And for the average person who is good at a game but doesn't have the mentality that fits a pro lifestyle, it's hard even if you like the game. The thing you have to ask for yourself for almost anything career related is, Do you only like the idea of doing it? Or do you actually love and want to do it? That is not an easy task to do, part of life.
I think being rich doesn't directly make a person smart, and there's not a distinct correlation between brilliance and financial wealth, but there's more freedom and less stress when you're financially stable and for some that is enough to simulate mental health that creates an environment/opportunity of gaining knowledge.
In other words it's easier to read up on philosophy, learn about math and science, and dive deeper into what interests you the most when your mind isn't focused on how you gonna pay your rent and car payment and still have enough to eat until next paycheck. When you're living paycheck to paycheck and one mishap like a vehicle needing maintenance work would take you months to a few years to recover from... the whole time you have to think about how you gonna make it to work on time, plan chores around another person's schedule who is willing to help you (driving you around as you try to be as little if an inconvenience as possible).
Stress is the biggest inhibitor of knowledge and simply thinking clearly.
"I've never learned in college" as a lecturer myself, he is such a missed opportunity as a student.
How is he a missed opportunity? He makes more money than you ...
@@TeeVee20105 i think its a compliment, i think he means it would keep him engaged to teach someone that smart
Most people don't understand what you're trying to say
Tee Vee you totally missed what he was trying to say lol
@@TeeVee20105 You missed what he said.. And you have no clue on who that guy is and how his life actually is. Stay in school my friend.
You know he boutta go talk mode when he
put the glasses on..
shroud: "We need more Grindrs." Is he trying to tell us something?
Actually, genetics are a significant factor in gaming as in anything else, it's just that the clear cuts aren't there yet.
F.e. your eyesight is crucial to your performance in any competitive game from CS:GO to Rocket League and what not, bcs it determines how well you can coordinate your input regardless whether you're using Mouse/Keyboard, Controller or Wheel/Stick.
If you have poor eyesight you're fucked.
Well, unless you're playing something like Chess or similarly turn based game where vision isn't a crucial aspect, but for FPS games talking from experience your overall performance is really tightly bound to how good your eyesight is, even if you can aim pretty well, if you can't see clear enough it does not matter.
Anyone who has moderate to high myopia can verify this with great ease, just play a few rounds without glasses/contacts at a distance outside the minimum necessary focus and a few rounds with glasses on - the difference is often staggering.
You will struggle to hit anything.
You take much longer to aim (from few extra hundred ms to 1 sec +), you aren't as precise either, bcs your brain isn't getting the required visual info feedback to calculate your aim.
If you have some condition that affects your Binocular vision you are also fucked.
You can aim with 1 eye, but it's still far from idea to put it lightly. Not having stereoscopic vision (or more precisely - lacking Stereopsis can quite detrimentally affect your spatial coordination and hence your aim.
That's Vision alone which is only 1 aspect of the equation.
Not even mentioning the tech side like your PC and Monitor, which even if you are perfectly healthy you'll suck balls if you don't have the necessary equipment and vice versa.
Hes earned more on livestreaming than he did in his entire pro career. Good choice.
its not about the money, he just enjoys streaming more. If you do things just for the money youll grow to hate it quicker then expected.
@@Leaqi Tell me about why he joined mixer ? ;)))
6:41 over, and over, and over again.
Shroud what you said about professional sports in comparison to esports as far as talent pool is correct. In most sports there are maybe 2-3 people at the top or on your team that are just so good that not even other pros can touch them (example: Roger Federer at Wimbledon, his win streak is insane). It goes down in tiers like you said idk if anyone here plays fantasy football but that's a good example of skill tiers as well.
You are right about the consistency. I started to think about it and a super consistent MVP was Michael Jordon in basketball. Where as when I start to think about the NFL it is hard to be consistent with field goal kicks. It all comes down to lots of variables and if they are in your favor then things work out.
Shroud looks like Gideon from Scott Pilgrim in this video
Shroud looked like he tried to hide his identity of being pro by wearing glasses. 😂
The ol' Clark Kent disguise
05:42 is where he starts talking about going pro
This aged well.
A moment to appreciate this channel to upload interesting "Shroud Talks" for people who can't watch his whole stream ❤️
Shroud “I don’t plan on going pro
Chat “SHROUDS GOING PRO???”
Shroud “Get Cod out of hear, it ain’t shit” in the context of competitive play vs CS
Chat: “wHaTs WrOnG wItH cOd?????”
me: **SMASHES HEAD IN DESK**
1:57 I need that quote on a shirt
“1:57”- Shroud
here is why you can stream your practice for cod
1: yes there is a ton of strategy for cod but it is just as easy to change it up during game
2: in cod you do not have to play as a team in cod
Thatbeast555 Clan you a dumb asf if
You believe that lol
6:40 lmao who thought COD counted
Henrik K be only plays when they sponsor him, I would love to see him go up against pro players who play COD everyday and are in their prime and watch him get destroyed then we will see how easy it is
@@l0rdofwolves7 cod isn't relevant in competive play tho ;)
@@golfball_diver cod4 promod?
@Matt not really lol
@Matt you've obviously never seen promod before there are tons of restrictions and rulesets that are different from public matches
If skill is genetic.. shroud and s1mple should have a kid
mmm yes, I love how casually 2 males can create their own babies. What a world we live in.
Also, if you're going to wooosh me you're just gonna get whoooshed yourself
No u
Unfortunately genetics don't work that way lol😂😂😂
Reaal r/whoosh
irony not caughnt as wosh. no re-wush=wushcess
gamers were the first humans to accept virtual worlds. gaming is only the beginning. in a few decades, everyone will live a virtual life. grim future.
Well look at how times have come
No matter what happens youre still the pro player for me shroud ❤️
It's *You're, you peasant
*happenS
Hisham Zaza damn thats crazy
@@Mand3012 what
Done teacher hisham
Did he really just wait 40mins for a match 🙄
dirtytrispokes13 Not too many ppl in close beta, he queue in high rank, for sure not much player in high rank too.
@@peacepham7838 there are tons of people in the closed beta, if you queue for unrated you get a game in about 5 sec, there just aren't many people in immortal
Lower rank queue times are between 5 seconds and 45 seconds. High rank queue times are currently atrocious, but League streamers had the same problem a while back. You just deal with it :P
@@stairfall12345678900 league is still 1hour or something in challenger
@@stairfall12345678900 with all the dodges and shit
Shroud should make a podcast
Man Shroud is wise af
"There is no way these people are protesting their right to go to the movies."
I've been in retail for a decade and am incredibly depressed to advise you that is incorrect. I have many customers at my store bellowing their rights to window shop and dine in. People are generally dumb. Really dumb. We can't allow people in the store for the most part and have at least one person completely spaz about it daily.
Their abiding by their constitutional rights.
@@Mr_jz_12 and in doing so being as dumb as your reply was. Rights are something you are able to do not something you necessarily should do whenever. If people weren't selfish trash to begin with and could adhere to simple recommendations for a couple weeks the law wouldn't have to get involved to begin with. It's the same reason not wearing a seatbelt is a ticketable offense in many states. People are too stupid to take care of themselves and the others around them.
@@bradsamples6427 My reply was dumb. What? Hell, I just finished watching an American police officer talk about this on instagram. SAYING THE SAME THING I SAID. But hey, what would i know, im stupid. But then again, if I'm dumb, so is the officer, talking about the law............
@@Mr_jz_12 it's interesting how you spent half of that reply talking about how I called you stupid when I only and very explicitly stated that your comment was dumb. Everything else was directed to the public at large. Why even comment to begin with if you're going to be so defensive?
Also, I could give a shit less what some random cop had to say that some random guy is relaying to me. What in the world would make you think that rebuttal had any weight?
I don't want answers to either of the above questions. I really would prefer you not respond at all given the nature of your previous two comments, so even if you do, I will not.
Have a good day.
@@bradsamples6427
The general public, "stupid and selfish" as they are, are well within their rights to do as they are. Just because you don't understand your laws, doesn't mean they don't.
You couldn't give a shit about what some "random" cop has to say? He's saying the people you're calling "selfish" haven't done anything wrong. So are they selfish, or are you being the selfish one?
9:29 So basically, Astralis.
I think part of it is that sports have a higher skill ceiling than video games, so as a result you get your Lebron's, Messi's, Brady's, Crosby's etc. In e-sports you don't see a massive variance at the very top most of the time.
He is right. All cod players stream except search and destroy game types when it comes to the league
I live literally 20 mins from Huntington Beach and was so disappointed🤦🏼♂️
I live Fountain Valley
We need hard social distant mesaures at beach dont need more cases than the more we got the other day from protests smh
10:30 of course there is genetics involved, people have faster reaction times, people are smarter. Some people are more talented than others. Otherwise a pro scene would be dumb anyway, if it was all based on the time someone put in because you can look at someones profile and be like ah only 10k hours he is gonna loose for sure because this other guy has 11k.
Yep, I was surprised to see him claim that so nonchalantly. To be fair, he did correct himself a minute later, and said that it could be genetics, but we don't know it yet.
I agree with you that, in all probability, it would have to be genetic to some degree. Reaction times, hand-eye coordination, precision of motor control, attention, eye movement, memory, stress handling...all of those seem extremely important for successful gaming at the top level.
cod is so different cuz the only mode somebody can scout is in snd and its really only break strats
Being rich to me is just having people you love and enough money to get by comfortably
0:04 natural selection lmao
@@Kigoz4Life that’s a pretty stupid thing to say
99% of his true fans already know why he won’t become a pro again
Why?
9:36 OG dota 2 2018-2019 answer that question
OG was so pog
Shroud trying to make it into a sports metaphor. Risky, but it's good🙌. I could listen to shroud attempt to teach football for hours.
this did not age well
How do you know when you're rich? When you stop looking at prices at the grocery store.
Taiyri thats good
If you want to remain rich, or get richer, it is not a bad idea to keep looking at those prices, you can use 1-2 extra thousands a year for a free vacation with your family, just buy when on discount and so on, not cheap sh*t though, bad investment in edibles
@@lambdacode1503 r/woosh
@@not_varij his was joking ofc, but many people reading his comment might believe it since there are a lot of kids, so I was explaining this for them.
Lambdacode nah buy the products you want and enjoy but set yourself a budget for things like food and have plans for your expenses. Penny pinching won’t lead to wealth
You can run and lift to increase physical performance and see massive gains. The same cannot be said for reflexes and cognition, which is what competitive gaming is built around. Until we reach a point where we can increase those things like athletes can increase their physical performance, we will not see variance between Esports teams.
yeah well this aged well
being rich is relative for people, for me $10k in bank acc is being RICH but ik some rich people will laugh at me
@Nihar Bendre true
Barely started the vid but im guessing cause he gets paid more to be a streamer🤔😂
Makes more money and is less work
Money isnt everything bro...
Yes being a pro is stressful and doesn't earn that much.
@@noonecaresm8641 doesnt earn that much ? CS salary is 10k per month in general
vs the millions he makes from streaming lool
To whom it may interest, I've been reflecting on the scientific aproach to gaming skill and learning recently. And obviosly, as well said by shroud, since the gaming industry is brand new, we dont have basicaly any research in the matter. We are slowly diving into it (very very slowly). But i have some information i can share with you having a certain level of confidence. So here it goes:
- Traditional sports and eletronic sports share some similarities, but are essentially diferent, since e-sports rely on the same cognitive skill learning and development system as tradicional sports and education processes in general, but traditional sports are based heavly on the physical component of task performing skills, wich changes the hole process of teaching, training and performing.
- Some cognitive processes involved in manual tasks, skill aquisition, declarative knowledge, processual knowledge and the decision making process are well fundamented research objects in sports sciences, and may probably translate to e-sports. We not yet felt the need to do that, but as the industry grows, is likelly that feeling will be awaken very very soon.
- The reaction speed (wich is the speed that the brain can identify and process a signal) and the action speed (wich is the speed that the brain can send a motor response to you're muscles to start moving you body, or fingers in this case, after that signal was processed) have a very very small room for improvement, because its heavly genetic determined. What we can do is associate a motor response to each signal, and then work on that response. But we're still learnig about how does it work on tasks like playing games.
- Can a person be trained to get to a shroud level of gameplay? Well, we can speculate, but we're ways away of knowing anything about it actually. Everything we know about motor skills training and development is based on the physical demands of each task, and we don't know how much of an influence the physical component has on sitting in a extreamely confortable chair and moving only your neck, shoulders, elbows, wrists and fingers very lightly around. So, from a extremely simplified point of view, we need to understand what are de key factors on gaming performance, and then find out how they work, if and how they can adapt and what are the factors that can cause those adaptations, then we can try to come up with a tyheory about the learning processes involved and then develop teaching metods, and this can take a few decades, because its no easy at all.
- I personally think that your level of skill is determined by a wide range of factors, but one that's really important is your gaming background. I'm 25 and i've been playing videogames since my early 10's, but i had no clue of what i was doing, and just a few months ago i had my first gaming pc, so i'm actually gaming just for a couple years now, and i suck ass, like hard, on pvp. And i think that the amount of time you grind in front of the screen, plays a major role on your performance, specially if you begin at a early age. That tells me that gaming can be learned, or at least improved, wich means it can be teached or trained. But i have absolutelly no clue of how it can be done. (personal opinion disclaimer)
That's some of the interesting things i've been dwelling on about this topic. I have hours and hours of discussion ready if anyone can be interested in, if you have any opinions or questions on that matter, leave a coment. And thanks for reading this haha.
One of the people who truly sjine on video games is a Japanese player by the name of: NeoNinja
His RUclips channel is the same name as well, it's sad because he hasn't uploaded for a while, but he has natural talent
"Does being rich make you smart?" *Looks at Jack Ma* "Nah!"
me here with 80mbps internet speed and quality is on auto AND STILL it chooses 144p 🤦♂️
I have 300 and it does it too. I think YT is doing it cause how many people are on... but idk why mine selects the lowest too
@@BirdyIsWatchIn 🤷♂️ its dumb
To put into perspective I have 5mbps and it chose to go to 720p 60fps
Kevin Villegas its seriously broken 😂 💔
And I have to change it every f****** time. Why can't it just be set RUclips WHY?!?!🙀😵
There is physiology behind being a top gamer. It isn't all just training. Reaction time/nervous system, brain synapses, natural alertness, visual acuity, fast twitch muscles, motor control, spatial awareness, strategic thinking skills. Not everyone has all of these things at a high level. Having these things all at a high level is called "talent". noun: a special natural ability or aptitude.
this is so true
just watching some pro that mains X champion in league of legends and u almost instantly start playing KINDA like him, not as good but u get the frame of mind for plays etc
Shroud is looking nerd with those glasses.
Actually, he is a gaming nerd!
NABIL RAHMAN also without them
"Do NOT bring up cod in here, do NOT... Oh hi Mark"
5:30 coming back to this clip after today
5:40 The best life lesson I will hear in my career as a Streamer.
uhmm in dota 2 OG.Ana really outshine everyone in tournament like everybody he was like shy type silent killer and now we call him GOD of Dota
Shroud: stay inside you can live
People literally becoming homeless because they have jobs were they just can’t stay home.
Yeah people like to meme "muh economy muh economy" but they don't realize the economy is the thing putting food on their table. More people will die from lack of food care etc than from the virus if they don't open it up. There is basically no chance to contain it till a vaccine is made (12-18 months) and we will have to reach herd immunity.
go pro ? WHY would he ever do that? he loves streaming, makes a hell of a living off of it, is his own boss.... and you wanna throw all of that away to give up control , stick to a set schedule, have a boss, added pressure of having to be at top level play all the time... etc... etc etc... no sir. there is no way that deal would ever work. Stay home, earn your living, put money aside for 'after' and live the good life man. Perfection.
I don't understand the "pro" thing. No one watches him because he is bad or he sucks, is not pro just because is not on a sponsored team? Because he is not on tournaments? The guy already plays like a pro, many follow his content because how good he is, he IS a pro player already, that's what many people are trying to get.
Shroud already done the damn thing.
When it comes to that "being rich" thing, for me being rich is having a lot of not really money, but having things, items, people and property so you do not need anything more.
Thats called being happy...
@@ThatGuy-sw9ic no, that's called material wealth
@@arond6790
Agreed to disagree.
@@ThatGuy-sw9ic I mean you're just wrong if you think material wealth = happiness
@@arond6790
Things, items, PEOPLE, and PROPERTY doesn't bring happiness?
okay...
I get the "things" and "items" being called "material wealth".
The whole not streaming practices things reminds me of xqc and seagull literally streaming scrims
Rainbow six had a guy called serenity 17 height be the perfect example of a worst case scenario during that balancing act
He was stuck between scrims and yt vids /streaming and stopped being a pro and not uploading anything anymore
Burn out +depression is almost always the result of such a schedule
the physical thing u need to outshine people in video games is the same physical ability musicians have. specifically piano players and guitar players because of their ability hit the keys/strings u need to hit, fast, and at the right moment, and doing something completely different on each hand. it aint easy. i think its called dexterity.
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