Check out War Thunder! ► wtplay.link/voocsgo Liquid did the double lurk with TACO also but iirc it was less common/less aggressive. There were a lot of other examples of Stewie's aggression on Liquid making a difference, possibly even better examples than palace, but it was hard to find multiple good clips to use as examples
'He didnt top frag he sucks' is essentially the sentiment I got from some people watching him during Dallas. For one, they didnt get him as a sub to out frag Niko and m0nesy, they just know he is a great entry fragger, a smart player, and not many have more confidence in themselves than stew.
I mean, people are right to criticize the way Stew played in Dallas because it wasn't pretty and he made a LOT of mistakes and died in some real dumb ways (like jumping around and quickswitching for no reason). I've no qualms with people discussing the intangibles, but atleast be straight about his performance, nothing good comes from basing an argument on embellishment.
@@Arcticun well dude, facit lvl 10's arent even on the same level as even a FPL (facit proleague) or even an actual PL player. Stewie has just been playing against over lvl 10's and a PL game with extremely organized teams is drastically different than a regular lvl 10.
@@Arcticun He was entry fragging without support against top tier elite player. He was insane in clutches and did what G2 asked of him. So yeah the role he had to play was basicly get info and die. And he filled that spot perfectly. He also singlehandedly made G2 listen to each other a few times since he said himself the biggest problem with G2 is that they talk a lot but no one really listens to the informations or follows calls right away. Without him G2 already looks way worse then with him.
@@MaskedOG Bruh, he absolutely had support when entrying, did you even watch the same games I did? Also, take what Stewie says regarding a team and what he does in it with a grain of salt, dude constantly skews information in his favour. It was only after Liquid exploded that we found out Stew had beef with Twistzz for example, he didn't say a word beforehand.
I think one of his biggest assets is also his energy. How many other players have jumped on their desk after a massive lan win? How many other players are yelling trash talk from across the studio during qualifier games? Dude has an insane desire to win and naturally ends up becoming a leader on any team hes on. Even during the G2 Dallas run, he was one of the most vocal people on the server.
He was constantly motivating his teammates, both with words and gestures. Morale never dropped even if the map lost was obvious, that's so so so important in a team environment.
@@dovydas4036same concept different gameplay. You can still entry and die a lot for your team in pugs and people will still blame you when you're the only one who wants to tske space.
Whenever I watched Stewie play it felt like he was sort of a self sacrificial type of a player. Would gamble for the team and take over jobs that no one would pick. Picking those uncomfortable spots and playing for the team is what makes him in my perspective a high impact player 😅
Stewie almost single-handedly revived the NA scene and anyone that was around during the 2015-16 season understand how much of an impact he had on the CS pro scene and the culture of CS in general when he joined C9, everyone was doing crazy smoke plays based on his influence even in regions outside NA
I'm brazilian, my first live CS event was ESL Pro League S4 finals in SP. I remember Stewie and Auti just seemed on a whole different level during that final BO3, like it was impossible for them to die before getting at least one frag every round. He's the spark that lit up the NA scene in my book
I remember being sick, going get some meds to the pharmacy and watching live the major. I'm european but I loved stew playstyle and I was rooting for C9 since the beginning of the major. My friends called me crazy but C9, actually, won lol. It was, by far, the best match I've ever seen. Brought me a lot of joy watching them win and watching this video. Every single clip you put here, I remember them all as if it was yesterday. Thanks.
i wanted to delve into it in the liquid part cuz it was kinda interesting looking at what was statistically a worse CT side but because of the krieg meta is was technically improved (their CT side went down by ~5% switching from taco to stew, but in the top 10 the avg CT side went down by 20% lmao) but couldn't manage to fit it in anywhere
I think Stewie's impact is how his style influences their passive teammates. Like he could drags his teammates for some more aggressive or riskier plays to make their style more unpredictable, or himself try to bring some space for the rest of the team. It probably depends on how atmosphere goes in the team for his impact to show, so it's kinda like two blade sword from a team's perspective.
I feel like another thing people argue about is how Stewie2k is a "toxic person" and that's like supposed to make his legacy worse or less of a player. I personally think It doesn't matter all that much to me if he's "toxic" and if anything Stewie2k is just misunderstood through all the drama or stress a pro player goes through and he actually has a very good personality or vibes that any team would want. He's a very unique individual and to me he is one of my NA goats with what he has achieved.
Stew is a competitor and expects the best out of himself + his teammates. He's gotten a lot better over the years of reigning this in and being more constructive with his words. Not to directly compare, but Stew's maturity over his career reminds me of s1mple.
YOO, I was at N0thing's stream when u asked that question. didn't realize it was you who asked that Voo. In general, he was really reminiscing on the tank top 9 days in that stream
I'm not myself an experienced player, but Stewie2k seems like one of the smartest playmakers out there and he is one of my inspirations to my playmaking.
Stewie has a good understanding of how to win a game/round/situation. Take an ingame situation say a 2v3 and there are 1000 ways to play this round out. Players like stewie can visualize every potential outcome and choose the highest potential percentage options under pressure. All pros can do this in their heads to an extent, it's a component of decision making, the ability to visualize situations and complete the puzzle in their heads before it happens. Some players are better than others at this and I think this is stewies strength and why his teams win.
The biggest complaint against him was his leadership in EG. We obviously don't know exactly what happened but it was under his leadership and we assume he was hard to work with and that's when a lot of people started to dislike him. But that EG roster was also cursed to never win a thing. But once he stood in for G2 at dallas it brought back that 2016 feeling of Stewie2k. So I hope he gets his chance on another team (hopefully one where he doesn't lead and can play more of his own game)
Glad you made this video so I can share it. I've been saying this about stewie since he first joined c9. Granted I've been a c9 fan since 2012 so maybe originally I was biased but with how often his "dumb plays" worked I knew it couldnt just be luck yknow.
Reasons why most players don't have a clue about team performance 1) The gamecam is a player POV 98% of the time. Spectators are shown the individual performance first, team play second. 2) The scoreboard is individual performance based 3) HLTV rating is individual performance based My opinion, that is also fact, is that the POV game cam is solely responsible for every negative aspect of the spectator and player community. Reference to team play is always an afterthought / bastard child. The fact that an irrelevant video like this is getting views is entirely because there's so much unbelievable controversy about how stew didn't do shit for g2. The fact that g2 won alone should speak for stew's impact.
well the video isnt irrelevant then is it? totally agree though about the pov , i always think of the map and team like 2 different fluids , pressure across the map changing in different areas, and how the teams effect eachothers positioning, as well as influencing later responses to those pressures. We need more people in the community interested in that aspect, but the way they display the game both influences, and is influenced by people interests so thats why videos like this are extremely relevant and important. I think it only irrelevant in some sort of ideal world where everybody thinks like you.
9:12 Holy shit this is it! long time NA cs fan and heartbroken after the loss to Sprit in Shanghai(idk why i let myself get my hopes up ton begin with tbh) but its always felt like no matter the iteration of Liquid the always lacked something. It sort of said as a second hand comment here buy I genuinely think this is it, explosiveness. If you think back to all the good liquid teams they all had that explosive element to them, s1mple back in the day was so talented he could just create an explosive play out of nowhere and win Liquid rounds, and when Stew first went over to Liquid you saw that change in playstyle, and almost seemed like they had a newfound confidence and passion for the game, but ironically I think that's why these teams always fall apart, they get so used to having these explosive plays that they either a) don't build a solid base and lose easy rounds(i.e. 2016-18 or even the early 2024 roster with cadian igl-ing) or b) they almost out-brain themselves in a sense where they realize these explosive plays aren't necessarily sustainable(which is true unless you are donk ig) but in the process of trying to become a more disciplined team lose that explosiveness. Perhaps I'm over thinking this just a weeee bit but I think its an interesting point either way.
I can relate to his playstyle a lot actually, regardless of the game be it League or CS I always "rush in" and be "agressive" to take pressure off of my teammates and force a huge trade-off to sway the odds back to us. People rarely acknowledge how much impact that has, they see me doing that and call it "inting" even though it helps them tremendously later on, but they never notice that cuz it's outside their view angle, people always see things "in the moment" without considering the implications and the consequences. It is a dirty job but someone has to do it. I'd rather die standing than live kneeling. I loved watching that Era of CS, it was great. Miss those times a lot.
To be the best entry (space taker) doesn't mean you have to hit every first kill. Its about making alot of players worry about where the first hit is going to be. Making people uncomfy holding angles, making them use utility to little effect. Knowing your entry go 0-10 but always goes in first into a 20-80 duel every round takes some mental steel.
When Stew was on, playing well and feeling himself he was the most fun player to watch period, EU or NA. That didn’t happen very often but his potential if he keeps his attitude in check is massive, like top ten players in the world massive. The Liquid roster with Elige, Nitro, NAF, Stewie, and Twistzz is my favorite roster in all of CS pro play. That team was so fun to watch.
I remember when stewie was coming up and watching his rise that led to him joining cloud9. I remember all the negative opinions about him and saying he would never win a major and I saw it in him the whole time. As a C9 fan who watched a ton of his gameplay in tournaments and streams I wasn’t surprised by his success. He has insane talent.
hopefully he’s grown as a person. every pro i met in pugs would get upset or toxic sometimes, but they were generally not childish about it. even players like moe at least had constructive things to say if u could put your ego aside and ignore the delivery. stewie did not. he was genuinely just a toxic petulant crybaby. never had a single good experience with him, and never had a bad experience with any other pro.
I think of it like jackz when he was on g2 they don’t always perform but they would bring an X factor in themselves that would win rounds essentially by themselves because of there plays also both of them had a big personality that helped overall morale they bring more than stats
Yea I'm from that era of counterstrike where people were talking trash about him and hoping he would fail. For some of us it was obvious he was a true competitor and would succeed in the long run.
I think you should make your demo reviews even more in depth, but you can use that additional depth to highlight one player each game. Then you can cut it up to make an easy 10-15 min video.
It's the same thing in street fights. It truly does not matter if you can win. But it does matter greatly if you can fight back. That is the scary part.
I like where you said entry fraggers get no respect. This is absolutely true and it's just inherent in the role. If youre an entry fragger top fragging is the last of your worries, you should be creating opportunities for your team and getting information, I don't expect my entry fragger to win every gun battle because thats not how that works.
Remember this, Shroud mentioned in one of his streams that he trained Stew really well and have high hopes for Stew to leade and have better gamesens than him.
I missed this video when it was new, but this is why when someone tried to insult me by calling me a "stewie2k wannabe" I felt proud and left the quote on the top of my steam profile. They didn't get it, but playing for map pressure has always been my style in CS, and sometimes it's worth it to do something a bit crazy when you really need that pressure, even if the result isn't an obvious success.
stewie2k was cloud9's replacement for shroud as he begun taking streaming more seriously. I always believed he was one of the most slept on talents is CS at the time.
I think people forgot how impactful prime stewie was. Not only did he use to have positive kd as an entry fragger, at one point he also played IGL, 2ndary awper, and lurker. NBK even mentioned this as he also plays the same. Stewie was a problem before his ego killed him. But yknow what, he actually needs to have some of that ego, its how he got there in the 1st place
2:28 Off course it depends on how many hours you put each day during those two years and if you are thinking about the game seriously instead of thinking of it of 'just a game to pass the time': but if one is putting on the hours and thinking about the game seriously, aren't two years more than enough to have a great game sense?
There was room to "break the game" back then. Even more so with previous versions of the CS franchise. There's far less room to play a whacky style now. Rest assured someone else will come along and become the meta breaking playmaker though. They just tend to get found out after a while.
i've been watching a lot of these videos but with elite american athletes, it's really cool to see these on esports lol. also is the prime of these players really that short? do teens just have better reaction time and coordination?
(late ass answer lol) this is going to be a bit overarching because I'm going to extend it to esports in general instead of just one in particular. I would ironically say esports has a lot of similar issues regular sports had early on before they were better fleshed out with regulations and player committee's and the like. 1: if you become a household name in a game and you have a good personality you can usually transition into a streamer/youtuber which tend to make more money and usually is a more safe/guaranteed path 2: insanely stressful on the body and mental because players try to over-do it and its kinda encouraged by the community. a lot of these guys will blow their wrists out or burn themselves out mentally because they're trying to be insanely perfect 24/7. vod/film review for an hour or 2, scrim for 4 hours then play the game for at least 4 more. you could argue wrist/arm workouts, general good health practices, having other hobbies that allow your mental to recover while not requiring much or any wrist movement would/could have a positive effect on these guys but its hard to prove because there is a decently diverse group of players and they all have different body shapes and sizes. almost no esport lasts long enough for these to be studied to a high degree either even if it sounds like a "yeah no shit" type of argument. 3: money/funding in the esports scene is usually on the low-end. lets say there is 12 teams in a league and each team has 7 players (5 mains who all specialize in one role, 2 subs who can flexibly play any of the roles) meaning you have 60 main players and 24 substitutes. coaches, managers, staff, etc aren't that big of an issue because their pay is generally going to stay the same or only slightly increase. players on the other hand can vastly increase in value. if we evenly split it we can say 4 teams are low-end (250K to split between the players), 4 teams are mid (400k to split between), and 4 teams are high end (750k to split between). players early on or when they are rookies are relatively cheap so its not a big deal if you strike lucky and get a good rookie or two, but the problem is usually contracts are only for in-game seasons/splits or for a few years. so you might sign a rookie for 40k, he's the 2nd best entryfragger out of 12 main players and is obviously better than any sub player, and now his contract is expired and hes worth 100k. if you are a mid-end team or a low-end team and you want to keep him you either have to put rookies around him and hope that he is able to have success whilst also either fostering them, or strike lucky and your rookies are insanely good, which are both rare. a high end team on the other hand is like the yankees in baseball. your willing to pay so much more that you can essentially guarantee a playoff spot and while you might sometimes run into other issues like the team not meshing well together, its generally easier to make people work it out when theyre getting paid double what anyone else can offer. 2 examples off the top of my head I can think of is faker from league of legends and s1mple from csgo who are both considered to be the "best" of their respective games faker is very pricy due to how good he is and his legendary status/audience pull and his teammates are good but to be honest they arent anything amazing and as he has became older he isnt the best in terms of raw skill either, but hes still a very solid player and is able to lead them (IGLing) allowing him to take part of the load off them even if it means his performance would suffer slightly and he actually is insanely good at doing it whilst barely suffering. (the MJ, tom brady, nikola jokic, leader effect) s1mple is also very pricy and has a legendary status/audience pull and his teammates have always been more mid-tier-level players just like faker, but his IGLing is rather lackluster and its much better if someone else IGL's while he is allowed to be the star of the show, and whilst you can argue he is putting up disgusting(ly good) performances almost every single game/event his team is rather hit or miss, sometimes absolutely stomping and sometimes not showing up whatsoever, but he doesnt exactly contribute a whole lot when it comes to making his teammates look better than they are (James harden, basically any player that is a star but has a very low leadership effect type of player, (A LOT OF PEOPLE SHIT ON HIM BUT I WOULD SAY THE "Jay Cutler" EFFECT) where the player is good but contributes near nothing in a role where you expect a leader to be found and the team often suffers because of this)
5:35 it's so absurd now to call a player bad because they lost a bunch of 1v1s to s1mple lmao. I guess hindsight is 20/20 but I feel like even back then people knew s1mple was the truth
In general, the average pro player has increased in skill significantly since years ago. The pro scene now is WAYYYYY better than it used to be. Take all the teams from 2017 and throw them into the current scene and 99% of them are get destroyed by even tier 2 teams. Prime astralis would probably struggle against teams like monte, mongolz, 9z, liquid, complexity, VP, honestly I bet current astralis would beat prime astralis
I wouldn’t be so sure about that. Prime Astralis had perfect timing and utility. It was extremely oppressive and teams had no way in. Device was a menace and he would pick teams apart before they would have a chance to get a leg up in the round. It’s more likely that prime Astralis was ahead of their time and would hang with the modern teams.
Stewie haters when Stewie carries the team but loses Haters : "He's nothing but a stat padder, he never wins, he's only good on LAN" Stewie haters when Stewie doesn't top frag like he usually does but they win Haters : "He got carried"
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Liquid did the double lurk with TACO also but iirc it was less common/less aggressive. There were a lot of other examples of Stewie's aggression on Liquid making a difference, possibly even better examples than palace, but it was hard to find multiple good clips to use as examples
'He didnt top frag he sucks' is essentially the sentiment I got from some people watching him during Dallas. For one, they didnt get him as a sub to out frag Niko and m0nesy, they just know he is a great entry fragger, a smart player, and not many have more confidence in themselves than stew.
I mean, people are right to criticize the way Stew played in Dallas because it wasn't pretty and he made a LOT of mistakes and died in some real dumb ways (like jumping around and quickswitching for no reason).
I've no qualms with people discussing the intangibles, but atleast be straight about his performance, nothing good comes from basing an argument on embellishment.
@@Arcticun well dude, facit lvl 10's arent even on the same level as even a FPL (facit proleague) or even an actual PL player. Stewie has just been playing against over lvl 10's and a PL game with extremely organized teams is drastically different than a regular lvl 10.
@@Arcticun He was entry fragging without support against top tier elite player. He was insane in clutches and did what G2 asked of him. So yeah the role he had to play was basicly get info and die. And he filled that spot perfectly.
He also singlehandedly made G2 listen to each other a few times since he said himself the biggest problem with G2 is that they talk a lot but no one really listens to the informations or follows calls right away. Without him G2 already looks way worse then with him.
@@MaskedOG Bruh, he absolutely had support when entrying, did you even watch the same games I did?
Also, take what Stewie says regarding a team and what he does in it with a grain of salt, dude constantly skews information in his favour.
It was only after Liquid exploded that we found out Stew had beef with Twistzz for example, he didn't say a word beforehand.
@@Arcticun D1 Stew hater spotted
I think one of his biggest assets is also his energy. How many other players have jumped on their desk after a massive lan win? How many other players are yelling trash talk from across the studio during qualifier games? Dude has an insane desire to win and naturally ends up becoming a leader on any team hes on. Even during the G2 Dallas run, he was one of the most vocal people on the server.
He was constantly motivating his teammates, both with words and gestures. Morale never dropped even if the map lost was obvious, that's so so so important in a team environment.
Aleksib jumped on desk after major win ^^
@@TheSibeeestewie did it in a qualifier game, one everyone expects them to win, that’s competitiveness
Such an insane desire to win that he publicly admitted to not playing seriously in EG at Pro League:DDD
Yeah ngl i dont get how people say stewie is toxic… in the pro scene hes a great leader and hypes up his team
If only people at 15k understood the concept at the end of the video lmao
It's different in pugs or premier
@@dovydas4036same concept different gameplay. You can still entry and die a lot for your team in pugs and people will still blame you when you're the only one who wants to tske space.
@@ra1lgunz268 Do dumb shit and enter the site, not that difficult
@@ra1lgunz268 If you really want to tryhard go play faceit, premier is for trolling
these concepts only really work in professional counter strike. The fact that you're trying to bleed it into your pugs is probably why you're 15k.
Whenever I watched Stewie play it felt like he was sort of a self sacrificial type of a player. Would gamble for the team and take over jobs that no one would pick. Picking those uncomfortable spots and playing for the team is what makes him in my perspective a high impact player 😅
Stewie almost single-handedly revived the NA scene and anyone that was around during the 2015-16 season understand how much of an impact he had on the CS pro scene and the culture of CS in general when he joined C9, everyone was doing crazy smoke plays based on his influence even in regions outside NA
"I actually thought Stew was Mexican" 💀
what the hell was that 😭
n0thing racist??
@@mungologgo5526How's that racist?
i was there for that n0thing stream it was such a curveball lmao
@@notlxrd2 i'm joking lol obv the clip is taken out of context
he just got that aura
I'm brazilian, my first live CS event was ESL Pro League S4 finals in SP. I remember Stewie and Auti just seemed on a whole different level during that final BO3, like it was impossible for them to die before getting at least one frag every round. He's the spark that lit up the NA scene in my book
Stewie clutched up when it mattered and allowed for ez trades or doubles during Dallas.
exactly, his b hold with the mp9 on ancient and his nuke spraydown were great plays
I wish he was still on liquid.
I remember being sick, going get some meds to the pharmacy and watching live the major. I'm european but I loved stew playstyle and I was rooting for C9 since the beginning of the major. My friends called me crazy but C9, actually, won lol. It was, by far, the best match I've ever seen. Brought me a lot of joy watching them win and watching this video. Every single clip you put here, I remember them all as if it was yesterday.
Thanks.
nice vid voo
only thing missing was looking at his CT-side, where fragging is more related to winning
i wanted to delve into it in the liquid part cuz it was kinda interesting looking at what was statistically a worse CT side but because of the krieg meta is was technically improved (their CT side went down by ~5% switching from taco to stew, but in the top 10 the avg CT side went down by 20% lmao) but couldn't manage to fit it in anywhere
I think Stewie's impact is how his style influences their passive teammates. Like he could drags his teammates for some more aggressive or riskier plays to make their style more unpredictable, or himself try to bring some space for the rest of the team. It probably depends on how atmosphere goes in the team for his impact to show, so it's kinda like two blade sword from a team's perspective.
I feel like another thing people argue about is how Stewie2k is a "toxic person" and that's like supposed to make his legacy worse or less of a player. I personally think It doesn't matter all that much to me if he's "toxic" and if anything Stewie2k is just misunderstood through all the drama or stress a pro player goes through and he actually has a very good personality or vibes that any team would want. He's a very unique individual and to me he is one of my NA goats with what he has achieved.
tbh he aint even toxic. The difference is that other pros who streams/streamed didnt answer the hate messages he does and gives it back
toxicity is grown out of passion
Stew is a competitor and expects the best out of himself + his teammates. He's gotten a lot better over the years of reigning this in and being more constructive with his words.
Not to directly compare, but Stew's maturity over his career reminds me of s1mple.
If u cant ignore a toxic teammate U are a useless teammate
wins matter more than frags
Obviously. We get gaslit by people projecting but yes this is obvious
the sgares and tarik clip shows how he was counting bullets. after the mag was closer to empty he pushes. it was calculated
YOO, I was at N0thing's stream when u asked that question. didn't realize it was you who asked that Voo. In general, he was really reminiscing on the tank top 9 days in that stream
I'm not myself an experienced player, but Stewie2k seems like one of the smartest playmakers out there and he is one of my inspirations to my playmaking.
Stewie has a good understanding of how to win a game/round/situation. Take an ingame situation say a 2v3 and there are 1000 ways to play this round out. Players like stewie can visualize every potential outcome and choose the highest potential percentage options under pressure.
All pros can do this in their heads to an extent, it's a component of decision making, the ability to visualize situations and complete the puzzle in their heads before it happens. Some players are better than others at this and I think this is stewies strength and why his teams win.
The biggest complaint against him was his leadership in EG. We obviously don't know exactly what happened but it was under his leadership and we assume he was hard to work with and that's when a lot of people started to dislike him. But that EG roster was also cursed to never win a thing. But once he stood in for G2 at dallas it brought back that 2016 feeling of Stewie2k. So I hope he gets his chance on another team (hopefully one where he doesn't lead and can play more of his own game)
He won a major. And one of the best ones.
Glad you made this video so I can share it. I've been saying this about stewie since he first joined c9.
Granted I've been a c9 fan since 2012 so maybe originally I was biased but with how often his "dumb plays" worked I knew it couldnt just be luck yknow.
Reasons why most players don't have a clue about team performance
1) The gamecam is a player POV 98% of the time. Spectators are shown the individual performance first, team play second.
2) The scoreboard is individual performance based
3) HLTV rating is individual performance based
My opinion, that is also fact, is that the POV game cam is solely responsible for every negative aspect of the spectator and player community. Reference to team play is always an afterthought / bastard child. The fact that an irrelevant video like this is getting views is entirely because there's so much unbelievable controversy about how stew didn't do shit for g2. The fact that g2 won alone should speak for stew's impact.
well the video isnt irrelevant then is it? totally agree though about the pov , i always think of the map and team like 2 different fluids , pressure across the map changing in different areas, and how the teams effect eachothers positioning, as well as influencing later responses to those pressures. We need more people in the community interested in that aspect, but the way they display the game both influences, and is influenced by people interests so thats why videos like this are extremely relevant and important. I think it only irrelevant in some sort of ideal world where everybody thinks like you.
9:12 Holy shit this is it! long time NA cs fan and heartbroken after the loss to Sprit in Shanghai(idk why i let myself get my hopes up ton begin with tbh) but its always felt like no matter the iteration of Liquid the always lacked something. It sort of said as a second hand comment here buy I genuinely think this is it, explosiveness. If you think back to all the good liquid teams they all had that explosive element to them, s1mple back in the day was so talented he could just create an explosive play out of nowhere and win Liquid rounds, and when Stew first went over to Liquid you saw that change in playstyle, and almost seemed like they had a newfound confidence and passion for the game, but ironically I think that's why these teams always fall apart, they get so used to having these explosive plays that they either a) don't build a solid base and lose easy rounds(i.e. 2016-18 or even the early 2024 roster with cadian igl-ing) or b) they almost out-brain themselves in a sense where they realize these explosive plays aren't necessarily sustainable(which is true unless you are donk ig) but in the process of trying to become a more disciplined team lose that explosiveness. Perhaps I'm over thinking this just a weeee bit but I think its an interesting point either way.
I can relate to his playstyle a lot actually, regardless of the game be it League or CS I always "rush in" and be "agressive" to take pressure off of my teammates and force a huge trade-off to sway the odds back to us. People rarely acknowledge how much impact that has, they see me doing that and call it "inting" even though it helps them tremendously later on, but they never notice that cuz it's outside their view angle, people always see things "in the moment" without considering the implications and the consequences.
It is a dirty job but someone has to do it. I'd rather die standing than live kneeling.
I loved watching that Era of CS, it was great. Miss those times a lot.
To be the best entry (space taker) doesn't mean you have to hit every first kill. Its about making alot of players worry about where the first hit is going to be. Making people uncomfy holding angles, making them use utility to little effect. Knowing your entry go 0-10 but always goes in first into a 20-80 duel every round takes some mental steel.
For example- every single Boombl4 game.
And it slowly drains you out as well when you're just not winning those opening duels
When Stew was on, playing well and feeling himself he was the most fun player to watch period, EU or NA. That didn’t happen very often but his potential if he keeps his attitude in check is massive, like top ten players in the world massive. The Liquid roster with Elige, Nitro, NAF, Stewie, and Twistzz is my favorite roster in all of CS pro play. That team was so fun to watch.
I miss that team Liquid roster with Nitro, Naf, Elige, Twistzz and Stewie.
Prime voo clears prime stewie
I think 2:50 could be the basis for a great new video idea. Talking about how the meta and strategy have evolved over the past decade.
I remember when stewie was coming up and watching his rise that led to him joining cloud9. I remember all the negative opinions about him and saying he would never win a major and I saw it in him the whole time. As a C9 fan who watched a ton of his gameplay in tournaments and streams I wasn’t surprised by his success. He has insane talent.
hopefully he’s grown as a person. every pro i met in pugs would get upset or toxic sometimes, but they were generally not childish about it. even players like moe at least had constructive things to say if u could put your ego aside and ignore the delivery. stewie did not. he was genuinely just a toxic petulant crybaby. never had a single good experience with him, and never had a bad experience with any other pro.
I think of it like jackz when he was on g2 they don’t always perform but they would bring an X factor in themselves that would win rounds essentially by themselves because of there plays also both of them had a big personality that helped overall morale they bring more than stats
Yea I'm from that era of counterstrike where people were talking trash about him and hoping he would fail. For some of us it was obvious he was a true competitor and would succeed in the long run.
I love stew, always played for the team even if the stats didn’t show he went to be traded or get a kill then be traded.
I think you should make your demo reviews even more in depth, but you can use that additional depth to highlight one player each game. Then you can cut it up to make an easy 10-15 min video.
He has a 2nd channel (it’s voo) with full game demo reviews
How good Stewie2k is an understatement because dude's on its own level like prime shr0ud does
It's the same thing in street fights. It truly does not matter if you can win. But it does matter greatly if you can fight back. That is the scary part.
I like where you said entry fraggers get no respect. This is absolutely true and it's just inherent in the role. If youre an entry fragger top fragging is the last of your worries, you should be creating opportunities for your team and getting information, I don't expect my entry fragger to win every gun battle because thats not how that works.
never realized that stewie wasn't even in top20 hltv, thats sick.
the life of an entry is hard and full of tragedies. i love it ❤
dude single handedly almost bankrupt me ... damn i missed those item betting times XD
good enough for you to dedicate an entire video to him
Stewie is just a guy that has big balls and an impressive intuition.
Remember this, Shroud mentioned in one of his streams that he trained Stew really well and have high hopes for Stew to leade and have better gamesens than him.
If you noticed before games during iem Dallas he was always talking to Niko the temp Igl
I remember his smoke pushes being insane
please continue with the subtitles until the end of the video
I missed this video when it was new, but this is why when someone tried to insult me by calling me a "stewie2k wannabe" I felt proud and left the quote on the top of my steam profile. They didn't get it, but playing for map pressure has always been my style in CS, and sometimes it's worth it to do something a bit crazy when you really need that pressure, even if the result isn't an obvious success.
"To stewie's zero." *proceeds to show the only accomplishment stewie has which elige doesn't: a major.*
He’s what you call a ‘streets won’t forget’ player…
stewie2k was cloud9's replacement for shroud as he begun taking streaming more seriously. I always believed he was one of the most slept on talents is CS at the time.
Entry in back in the day was WILD
Honestly we need how good was olof in his prime and how good was get right in his prime
He was really good when he would shake his crosshair randomly to stay “focused”
Stewie is a misunderstood legend
Stewie imo was one of HIM in NA
Great analysis, can you do swag next? :)
great video my dude
We are talking about "Prime" Stewie2k now? God, I'm old.
for me it's his attitude as much as his gameplay. he's got big balls like planets
so funny seeing how the community would go after players so aggressively.
I think people forgot how impactful prime stewie was. Not only did he use to have positive kd as an entry fragger, at one point he also played IGL, 2ndary awper, and lurker. NBK even mentioned this as he also plays the same. Stewie was a problem before his ego killed him. But yknow what, he actually needs to have some of that ego, its how he got there in the 1st place
2:28 Off course it depends on how many hours you put each day during those two years and if you are thinking about the game seriously instead of thinking of it of 'just a game to pass the time': but if one is putting on the hours and thinking about the game seriously, aren't two years more than enough to have a great game sense?
Bardolph should still be calling every single major. Dude is electrifying
100%
He got cancelled for wrongthink
Stewie never beat me on LAN.
When it comes to counterstrike hes my goat
stew is still in his prime
There was room to "break the game" back then. Even more so with previous versions of the CS franchise. There's far less room to play a whacky style now. Rest assured someone else will come along and become the meta breaking playmaker though. They just tend to get found out after a while.
Now do a "Was stewie bad at Dallas?"
Awesome video
Rounds. Wins. Games.
NIce ad that u cant skip
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i got my players mixed up i was like aint that a rapist but i was thinkin bout sinatra
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How good would a voostin podcast be??
too good idk if you could even handle it
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The smoke criminal
10:55
is the primary reason why all hardstuck stay hardstuck
not the most mechanically gifted but he can read the game way better than others.
How good was WarThunder in His prime?
Damn that ad was long
i've been watching a lot of these videos but with elite american athletes, it's really cool to see these on esports lol. also is the prime of these players really that short? do teens just have better reaction time and coordination?
(late ass answer lol)
this is going to be a bit overarching because I'm going to extend it to esports in general instead of just one in particular. I would ironically say esports has a lot of similar issues regular sports had early on before they were better fleshed out with regulations and player committee's and the like.
1: if you become a household name in a game and you have a good personality you can usually transition into a streamer/youtuber which tend to make more money and usually is a more safe/guaranteed path
2: insanely stressful on the body and mental because players try to over-do it and its kinda encouraged by the community. a lot of these guys will blow their wrists out or burn themselves out mentally because they're trying to be insanely perfect 24/7. vod/film review for an hour or 2, scrim for 4 hours then play the game for at least 4 more. you could argue wrist/arm workouts, general good health practices, having other hobbies that allow your mental to recover while not requiring much or any wrist movement would/could have a positive effect on these guys but its hard to prove because there is a decently diverse group of players and they all have different body shapes and sizes. almost no esport lasts long enough for these to be studied to a high degree either even if it sounds like a "yeah no shit" type of argument.
3: money/funding in the esports scene is usually on the low-end. lets say there is 12 teams in a league and each team has 7 players (5 mains who all specialize in one role, 2 subs who can flexibly play any of the roles) meaning you have 60 main players and 24 substitutes. coaches, managers, staff, etc aren't that big of an issue because their pay is generally going to stay the same or only slightly increase. players on the other hand can vastly increase in value. if we evenly split it we can say 4 teams are low-end (250K to split between the players), 4 teams are mid (400k to split between), and 4 teams are high end (750k to split between). players early on or when they are rookies are relatively cheap so its not a big deal if you strike lucky and get a good rookie or two, but the problem is usually contracts are only for in-game seasons/splits or for a few years. so you might sign a rookie for 40k, he's the 2nd best entryfragger out of 12 main players and is obviously better than any sub player, and now his contract is expired and hes worth 100k. if you are a mid-end team or a low-end team and you want to keep him you either have to put rookies around him and hope that he is able to have success whilst also either fostering them, or strike lucky and your rookies are insanely good, which are both rare. a high end team on the other hand is like the yankees in baseball. your willing to pay so much more that you can essentially guarantee a playoff spot and while you might sometimes run into other issues like the team not meshing well together, its generally easier to make people work it out when theyre getting paid double what anyone else can offer.
2 examples off the top of my head I can think of is faker from league of legends and s1mple from csgo who are both considered to be the "best" of their respective games
faker is very pricy due to how good he is and his legendary status/audience pull and his teammates are good but to be honest they arent anything amazing and as he has became older he isnt the best in terms of raw skill either, but hes still a very solid player and is able to lead them (IGLing) allowing him to take part of the load off them even if it means his performance would suffer slightly and he actually is insanely good at doing it whilst barely suffering. (the MJ, tom brady, nikola jokic, leader effect)
s1mple is also very pricy and has a legendary status/audience pull and his teammates have always been more mid-tier-level players just like faker, but his IGLing is rather lackluster and its much better if someone else IGL's while he is allowed to be the star of the show, and whilst you can argue he is putting up disgusting(ly good) performances almost every single game/event his team is rather hit or miss, sometimes absolutely stomping and sometimes not showing up whatsoever, but he doesnt exactly contribute a whole lot when it comes to making his teammates look better than they are (James harden, basically any player that is a star but has a very low leadership effect type of player, (A LOT OF PEOPLE SHIT ON HIM BUT I WOULD SAY THE "Jay Cutler" EFFECT) where the player is good but contributes near nothing in a role where you expect a leader to be found and the team often suffers because of this)
he done it again
W video. stew is a legend
An NA player putting stewie2k higher than Nico, not suspicious at all...
5:35 it's so absurd now to call a player bad because they lost a bunch of 1v1s to s1mple lmao. I guess hindsight is 20/20 but I feel like even back then people knew s1mple was the truth
In general, the average pro player has increased in skill significantly since years ago. The pro scene now is WAYYYYY better than it used to be. Take all the teams from 2017 and throw them into the current scene and 99% of them are get destroyed by even tier 2 teams. Prime astralis would probably struggle against teams like monte, mongolz, 9z, liquid, complexity, VP, honestly I bet current astralis would beat prime astralis
I wouldn’t be so sure about that. Prime Astralis had perfect timing and utility. It was extremely oppressive and teams had no way in. Device was a menace and he would pick teams apart before they would have a chance to get a leg up in the round. It’s more likely that prime Astralis was ahead of their time and would hang with the modern teams.
Fragging is secondary but that .88 doesn't lie. Cope all you want
just like moneyball, you gotta get on base if youre gonna score
Missed the stewie6k clip in this video :,(
War thunder turning into the raid shadow legends
How good was prime stew? bruh he is the SMOKE Criminal. lmao
very good video vooster
8:05 is there a link to Mauisnake's cultural impact tier list? I cant find it
Stewie haters when Stewie carries the team but loses
Haters : "He's nothing but a stat padder, he never wins, he's only good on LAN"
Stewie haters when Stewie doesn't top frag like he usually does but they win
Haters : "He got carried"
i been stew2k fan from 2021
people already forgot how good he was lmaoo
Fw the solid analysis as always just a teeeeeny bit too much Stewie glaze but expected from NA content creator
Do you have a link to the video of the cultural impact tier list? A quick RUclips search yielded no successful results
he actually didn't upload it to youtube unfortunately. it's on this stream somewhere www.twitch.tv/videos/2153110923
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i love stewie2k playstyle, he pulls off the crazy low % shit at max level