A total game changer John I wouldn't be afraid to put this in anything and the 8 volt rail for the servos what a bonus great review and some pretty slick soldering skills there buddy take care
Hi guys. I can't connect my SRLS with the same CRSF to PWM. I have a radiomaster TX12, and a SRLS module at 915 MHz. I connect a digital analyzer to the TX line of my ERLS receiver and I see a signal from the CRSF line. But when I connect TX and RX to CRSF to PWM, the module continues to slowly blink its LED and does not control anything at the outputs. I also connected an oscilloscope to the PWM lines and I do not see any signals at any output of this board. What could be the problem?
I recently put Nano PWM receivers in a couple of 6ch gliders for link security but had to accept no RxBat telem. Like you say, this is a total game changer for this sort of application. I'll buy some of these boards and hope I can still get to the CRSF connections on the PWM versions as that would save buying new receivers!
I was flying my GB1 today with this setup. It was very satisfying after my "no sag voltage alert" configuration started chirping and after getting the battery on the tester seeing 3.85v. This is the way electric radio setups should work.
Considering getting this but I have a setup with only a 4in1 ESC and a ELRS receiver. The goal is to get telemetry from the ESC, it has a port for telemetry which gives motor speeds etc. would it work if I wired that in where a GPS or Vario sensor are on the diagram?
I think you are wise to put it in a beater first. I trust Crossfire completely but I am a little worried about trusting a $10 conversion board on a $1000+ airplane. I am curious to see how your testing goes. Good info. I have ordered a couple to try out.
I have a few of these mateksys pwm converters with 10 channel outputs that I put nano recievers on. Using a tx16s transmitter. I have a question. I have a hobbyeagle a3l gyro I want to use with this nano reciever. The gyro has a pin connection to run sbus to the reciever. I have a 80mm f14 and need 11 channels after installing some brakes. Is it possible to run the 10 channel matesys with the a3l gyro and sbus so I can plug the tailerons and rudders to the gyro output to free up 2 extra outputs on my mateksys? That way I could put the switch for the gyro and also have the brakes on its own channel.
I liked the video and made me buy this board too but I have a question. I successfully with an old esc that I had that is older than esc’s with simonK firmware. But when I connected some old Multistar esc’s or hobbyking Afro esc’s and give it power i have only 2 beeps and and then nothing. So the first esc works and spins up the motor but all the rest do not. Also the blue LED on the converter it stays solid on for the working esc but for the rest it just blinking. Do you have any idea why is that happening?
Will this work for the 100cc gas planes with high torque servos? wondering if the pwm board can handel the amp draw on the servos. thanks your my favorite channel. been learning some new things here.
I wouldn't. I use some sort of PDB for high torque applications. I found these which have a spec of 15a continuous and 30a peak: www.servocity.com/8-channel-servo-power-node/.
Hi, I would like to convert my rc nitro car with expressLRS system and to do that I need this matek pwm adapter. Since all the electronic it has is 2 servos and no esc, I would like to know how can I do it. Also the servos input is 6.0V and I want to power them with a 2s lipo. Do I need a step down regulator or the matek pwm pin has 5v becs? Great video as always.
Depends on what I'm soldering and the tip I'm using. Usually around 700. Thicker wires I turn it up a little. Smaller wires and pads I lower it a little.
That limit was removed in ELRS 3.0. 16 full resolution channels at 1/2 rate. So when using 333hz, you get 16 channels at 166hz which is faster than most other protocols.
@@RCVideoReviews woah, thank you! I almost wanted to ditch my elrs tx12 mk2! In fact, I posted it for sale in our local marketplace a moment ago before I read your reply! Thank you.
im guessing that you would wire your servos to the kopilot then use the pwm wire supplied with kopilot to connect to the matek servo inputs. im hoping that makes sense because im trying to do the same! any1 else can confirm?
Kopilot only needs to see the PWM signals from the RX, so the signal wire from the Rx to the signal line on the Kopilot. I've never used PWM for Kopilot but if memory serves it uses a 3-in-1 wire. That means you would plug the wire in sideways on the Rx to cover AET and a standalone for R. Then the then connect the single signal wire to the appropriate pin on the Kopilot.
@@RCVideoReviews the 3 in 1 wire? has a small 7 pin socket that connects to kopilot pwm port can we still connect this way or via the kopilot signal pins. sorry slightly confused over the wiring
i have mine wired up and i get constant slow blue led. crossfire and transmitter bound (green light on crossfire) but pwm board slow blinks. esc bec plugged into servo rail. tested pins correct voltage??? help!!! any1
Hi, I've been using this for on my rc plane for a few months now and it's been great, but I seem to have a problem. I am only getting 6 channels out of it. I have all of my servos plugged into the board up to channel six, but the other four ( 7, 8, 9, and 10) won't output anything....I am trying to use full span ailerons on my flaps so I need an extra channel, but putting my right flap on any of the other channels doesn't do anything. I have the Crossfire receiver on my radio set to 8 channels, and I've tried switching it to 12, but nothing. Any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong? Thanks for the help!
I would connect to an SBUS decoder and see if all channels are showing up. The board is a fairly dumb device. It shouldn't really be filtering anything.
Check that you have bridged the servo voltage pins between Ch6 and Ch7 (on the underside of the converter board) to provide power to the servos for Ch7-10. The non-bridged state allows you to power Ch7-10 from a separate source, e.g. BEC.
Strange, I went down today and tried it again and it just worked..... no clue what's up. Tried for like 30 minutes last night and today it just simply works. I checked all of the solder joints etc. I'm nervous now, lol....
Nice soldering skills. What soldering iron is that you’re using? I have several of them now but none gets hot enough for the big wires and pads. A link would be greatly appreciateed!
@@RCVideoReviews yea I pre-ordered the 6 and 8 versions but they don’t ship until end of June, just wanna trying other options and see which ones work best. Also it’s fun to just tinker with different setups.
John: Another very nice video. Your soldering tips were very useful for this fine soldering project. Is the blue tack really just kids modeling clay? Where do you get it? Thanks for mentioning that Express LRS is compatible with this telemetry device. It is rather big, but cheap ($10.99) and pretty light =2.8g. I am converting a chuck glider to radio control that I will try to squeeze this converter/telemetry board into. Thanks. - Jim
Here is the Blu Tack I bought: amzn.to/3y8wH4i It's different than clay because it just never dries out. I use it on my desk to keep things like my GoPro charging dock from moving around. Just take a small piece, make it a pancake, and stick press the dock into it. They do have a 6 channel version that is smaller, but I don't believe that one supports current. May not be necessary for you in a glider.
LOL. "Sodder" has quite a different connotation in those lands which don't speak American, Oscar. Always good for a laugh listening to the folks from JohnWaynesville speaking! 😜😁
@@RCVideoReviews updating you on the kopilot status! Works a treat! Only gotcha i would say for any1 attempting is the failsafe .. Basically, i had to put the radio in the rth mode (ch5 up on my radio) then jump signal pin 1 and 2 together on the crsf pwm board. Attach no esc signal wire to the crsf pwm board (left it plugged out as the esc is plugged into kopilot (throttle chan) and the pwm wire supplied with kopilot carries the 5v and gnd via the ch5 plug (3 wires). Power up via battery. Then the ch5 rth is learnt by the crsf pwm. Power down , power up.. Should be sorted ... Works great!! Please note the learning of the failsafe signal 1 and 2 pin joining is what was included for the instructions via matek site. This is apparently for firmware 2 and above. i basically just assumed my board was firmware 2 and tried that. Worked. Lastly, thx for your video.. game changing ability and if you join a tbs evo vtx (speaks crossfire, join it to your crossfire nano rx) you then have a decent tbs osd. gps, volts, antennas, snr!! and more
CRSF are great receivers but they need to lower the price to get a bigger take up, otherwise they will lose out in the long run to other systems like ELRS. On this side of the big pond we say solder as the word has an L in it not two "DD's" as in sodder :)
ELRS can't do 10 fully proportional channels at this point. That may change at some point, but different use case IMHO. I joked about "soledieur" and "sodder" right?
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A total game changer John I wouldn't be afraid to put this in anything and the 8 volt rail for the servos what a bonus great review and some pretty slick soldering skills there buddy take care
Thanks Robert--Great tech hitting the streets these days.
Great video. I ordered a couple for my planks. Nice that it reports a full 6 cells rather than 5.
This was really well done. Thank you!
You're very welcome!
Hi guys. I can't connect my SRLS with the same CRSF to PWM. I have a radiomaster TX12, and a SRLS module at 915 MHz. I connect a digital analyzer to the TX line of my ERLS receiver and I see a signal from the CRSF line. But when I connect TX and RX to CRSF to PWM, the module continues to slowly blink its LED and does not control anything at the outputs. I also connected an oscilloscope to the PWM lines and I do not see any signals at any output of this board. What could be the problem?
I recently put Nano PWM receivers in a couple of 6ch gliders for link security but had to accept no RxBat telem. Like you say, this is a total game changer for this sort of application. I'll buy some of these boards and hope I can still get to the CRSF connections on the PWM versions as that would save buying new receivers!
I was flying my GB1 today with this setup. It was very satisfying after my "no sag voltage alert" configuration started chirping and after getting the battery on the tester seeing 3.85v. This is the way electric radio setups should work.
@@RCVideoReviews Good to know. I'm waiting for mine to arrive!
Great video. Thanks for the heads up on what looks to be a great option.
No problem 👍 Thanks for watching.
Great video and information John. I have a couple on order and will be testing them out. Bye the way This morning Race Day Quads are sold out.
I saw that. :)
Awesome!!! I need 10 chanel TBS , Thanks so much!!! Woot!
Nice informational video John. What a great new device for flying. Nice job on the soldering. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Bill. Neat gadget isn't it? The GB1 flew well with it. I'm happy I found this little gadget.
John, good information as always.
Thanks 👍
Thanks John! I’m switching my Cessna over to crossfire. And the receiver is so tiny!👍Blessings,Rudy🇨🇦
Very reliable receivers.
I wonder if I can use this to resurect my old TREX 450 Flybar helicopter with Futaba GY401 gyro using an ELRS RP1 receiver with my TX16S?
Considering getting this but I have a setup with only a 4in1 ESC and a ELRS receiver. The goal is to get telemetry from the ESC, it has a port for telemetry which gives motor speeds etc.
would it work if I wired that in where a GPS or Vario sensor are on the diagram?
You can use this with elrs as well. Anything using the crsf protocol
Yup. Covered in a number of follow-on videos ruclips.net/video/RzZcbZ6N450/видео.html
Thanks, very informative video. I’ve learned a lot from your videos p, thank you.🙏
Great to hear! You're welcome.
I need to monitor the lipo voltage and warn when the lowest cell is 3.5 v. Can a Frsky FLVSS be plugged in, where would it go?
The crsf-pwm-c board itself reports voltage via telemetry. No need for an add-on sensor.
I think you are wise to put it in a beater first. I trust Crossfire completely but I am a little worried about trusting a $10 conversion board on a $1000+ airplane. I am curious to see how your testing goes. Good info. I have ordered a couple to try out.
I've got planes to do this type of testing. I do want to see how it holds up and if there are any glitches.
I have a few of these mateksys pwm converters with 10 channel outputs that I put nano recievers on. Using a tx16s transmitter. I have a question. I have a hobbyeagle a3l gyro I want to use with this nano reciever. The gyro has a pin connection to run sbus to the reciever. I have a 80mm f14 and need 11 channels after installing some brakes. Is it possible to run the 10 channel matesys with the a3l gyro and sbus so I can plug the tailerons and rudders to the gyro output to free up 2 extra outputs on my mateksys? That way I could put the switch for the gyro and also have the brakes on its own channel.
Dupe.
Can you connect somthing to CL DA on the back , example barometer bmp180?
They only reference GPS as a sensor option. So I don't know.
I liked the video and made me buy this board too but I have a question. I successfully with an old esc that I had that is older than esc’s with simonK firmware. But when I connected some old Multistar esc’s or hobbyking Afro esc’s and give it power i have only 2 beeps and and then nothing. So the first esc works and spins up the motor but all the rest do not. Also the blue LED on the converter it stays solid on for the working esc but for the rest it just blinking.
Do you have any idea why is that happening?
No idea. Suggest you join discord. Invite link is in every video description.
Will this work for the 100cc gas planes with high torque servos? wondering if the pwm board can handel the amp draw on the servos. thanks your my favorite channel. been learning some new things here.
I wouldn't. I use some sort of PDB for high torque applications. I found these which have a spec of 15a continuous and 30a peak: www.servocity.com/8-channel-servo-power-node/.
@@RCVideoReviews awsome thanks for the link.
Hi, I would like to convert my rc nitro car with expressLRS system and to do that I need this matek pwm adapter. Since all the electronic it has is 2 servos and no esc, I would like to know how can I do it. Also the servos input is 6.0V and I want to power them with a 2s lipo. Do I need a step down regulator or the matek pwm pin has 5v becs? Great video as always.
Dupe. Answered in another video.
Do you have a link for the smoke stopper sir john
amzn.to/3rdsSeV
Well this video got my attention and I don’t even fly planes. Well done 👍
Lol, well, thanks. :)
hi great Video, can I use an ExpressLRS 2.4GHz Nano Receiver for this matek using same method you have?
Yes. I do that regularly.
Does the telemetry still work using a ELRS receiver?
Can I connect the battery and the ESC directly without going over the board?
If you don't use the board, then there's no reason to connect the battery. You can connect the ESC to the output rail as usual.
Nice video - thanks - what temp are you using to solder? I finally settled on 625 but have had lots of failures in the past ...
Depends on what I'm soldering and the tip I'm using. Usually around 700. Thicker wires I turn it up a little. Smaller wires and pads I lower it a little.
RDQ is sold out. :-(
Wahoo. That happens a lot when the video goes up. Gotta be quick.
Is there a limitation of the first 4 channel being only the full resolution channels, just like the betafpv and matek elrs to pwm receivers?
That limit was removed in ELRS 3.0. 16 full resolution channels at 1/2 rate. So when using 333hz, you get 16 channels at 166hz which is faster than most other protocols.
@@RCVideoReviews woah, thank you! I almost wanted to ditch my elrs tx12 mk2! In fact, I posted it for sale in our local marketplace a moment ago before I read your reply! Thank you.
how would you hook this up to a kopilot lite
im guessing that you would wire your servos to the kopilot then use the pwm wire supplied with kopilot to connect to the matek servo inputs. im hoping that makes sense because im trying to do the same! any1 else can confirm?
Kopilot only needs to see the PWM signals from the RX, so the signal wire from the Rx to the signal line on the Kopilot. I've never used PWM for Kopilot but if memory serves it uses a 3-in-1 wire. That means you would plug the wire in sideways on the Rx to cover AET and a standalone for R. Then the then connect the single signal wire to the appropriate pin on the Kopilot.
yes thats right the 3 in1 wire is included. so basically servos to the matek board and 3 in 1 wire from kopilot to?
i think this would make a great quick vid. kopilot/matekcrsf-pwm/crossfire telemetry wiring..
@@RCVideoReviews the 3 in 1 wire? has a small 7 pin socket that connects to kopilot pwm port can we still connect this way or via the kopilot signal pins. sorry slightly confused over the wiring
i have mine wired up and i get constant slow blue led. crossfire and transmitter bound (green light on crossfire) but pwm board slow blinks. esc bec plugged into servo rail. tested pins correct voltage??? help!!! any1
sorry folks! i had the tx and rx wrong way round.... gah!
Hi, I've been using this for on my rc plane for a few months now and it's been great, but I seem to have a problem. I am only getting 6 channels out of it. I have all of my servos plugged into the board up to channel six, but the other four ( 7, 8, 9, and 10) won't output anything....I am trying to use full span ailerons on my flaps so I need an extra channel, but putting my right flap on any of the other channels doesn't do anything. I have the Crossfire receiver on my radio set to 8 channels, and I've tried switching it to 12, but nothing. Any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong? Thanks for the help!
I would connect to an SBUS decoder and see if all channels are showing up. The board is a fairly dumb device. It shouldn't really be filtering anything.
Check that you have bridged the servo voltage pins between Ch6 and Ch7 (on the underside of the converter board) to provide power to the servos for Ch7-10. The non-bridged state allows you to power Ch7-10 from a separate source, e.g. BEC.
Strange, I went down today and tried it again and it just worked..... no clue what's up. Tried for like 30 minutes last night and today it just simply works. I checked all of the solder joints etc. I'm nervous now, lol....
Nice soldering skills. What soldering iron is that you’re using? I have several of them now but none gets hot enough for the big wires and pads. A link would be greatly appreciateed!
An old friend used to tell me, buy the best, cry once: amzn.to/3I6Ndqe
Anyone know if its possible to use a ELRS receiver instead of a crossfire one? or are you locked to crossfire somehow?
You really don’t need these boards anymore. Radiomaster just released 6 and 8 channel PWM receivers.
But….ELRS works fine with these boards.
@@RCVideoReviews yea I pre-ordered the 6 and 8 versions but they don’t ship until end of June, just wanna trying other options and see which ones work best. Also it’s fun to just tinker with different setups.
John:
Another very nice video. Your soldering tips were very useful for this fine soldering project.
Is the blue tack really just kids modeling clay? Where do you get it?
Thanks for mentioning that Express LRS is compatible with this telemetry device. It is rather big, but cheap ($10.99) and pretty light =2.8g.
I am converting a chuck glider to radio control that I will try to squeeze this converter/telemetry board into. Thanks. - Jim
Here is the Blu Tack I bought: amzn.to/3y8wH4i It's different than clay because it just never dries out. I use it on my desk to keep things like my GoPro charging dock from moving around. Just take a small piece, make it a pancake, and stick press the dock into it.
They do have a 6 channel version that is smaller, but I don't believe that one supports current. May not be necessary for you in a glider.
Will ERLS work with this because if it does buying 3 of these right now and putting kne into a RC car so I can see it's speed lol
Yup. Works great. I use these in my 60” planes with Matek R24Ds.
@@RCVideoReviews sweet. I already ordered some
Good video!
Thank you. Appreciate the comment.
Hey Jon can this be used with ELRS recievers aswell? They use the Crossfire protocol?
Yes all crsf
I posted this a few days later ruclips.net/video/RzZcbZ6N450/видео.html
Could this work Ona DJI naza flight controller?
I don't know.
LOL. "Sodder" has quite a different connotation in those lands which don't speak American, Oscar. Always good for a laugh listening to the folks from JohnWaynesville speaking! 😜😁
lol. Two people separated by a common language. That's ok though, the brits gave it a good go. We just modernized things.
@@RCVideoReviews LOL! As to language - debatable. But as to politics, youse certainly seem to have scaled the heights of High Gothic lately. 🤑😂😂
hello do you think that this matek adapter would work with a Tracer receiver ? thanks
If the tracer outputs CRSF it will.
@@RCVideoReviews Thanks a lot but i don't know if tracer receivers output CRSF
Yes, I’m using Tracer on the same setup!
@@wassimmatta8390 thanks a lot i will try it then
Are all 10ch full resolution?
I believe so, but I didn't test each channel before switching to ELRS.
Excuse my ignorance on the subject, but can CRSF and ELRS just make fixed wing rx's with telemetry?
Can they? Perhaps. Do they? No.
I realize that, but how cool would that be?! The ultimate rx's. 😁
Look up elrs pwm rx
nice one, thanks
No problem 👍
Hi Can this be used with kopilot?
Yes
@@RCVideoReviews updating you on the kopilot status! Works a treat!
Only gotcha i would say for any1 attempting is the failsafe ..
Basically, i had to put the radio in the rth mode (ch5 up on my radio) then jump signal pin 1 and 2 together on the crsf pwm board.
Attach no esc signal wire to the crsf pwm board (left it plugged out as the esc is plugged into kopilot (throttle chan) and the pwm wire supplied with kopilot carries the 5v and gnd via the ch5 plug (3 wires).
Power up via battery. Then the ch5 rth is learnt by the crsf pwm. Power down , power up.. Should be sorted ...
Works great!!
Please note the learning of the failsafe signal 1 and 2 pin joining is what was included for the instructions via matek site. This is apparently for firmware 2 and above. i basically just assumed my board was firmware 2 and tried that. Worked.
Lastly, thx for your video.. game changing ability and if you join a tbs evo vtx (speaks crossfire, join it to your crossfire nano rx) you then have a decent tbs osd. gps, volts, antennas, snr!! and more
CRSF are great receivers but they need to lower the price to get a bigger take up, otherwise they will lose out in the long run to other systems like ELRS. On this side of the big pond we say solder as the word has an L in it not two "DD's" as in sodder :)
ELRS can't do 10 fully proportional channels at this point. That may change at some point, but different use case IMHO.
I joked about "soledieur" and "sodder" right?
waiting for your maiden flight ✈🛩🛫
Hopefully Saturday...
Very cool but lots of soldering. I’ve been wanting some telemetry on my planes though.
The soldering takes a few minutes, telemetry lasts the lifetime of the plane :)
I thought Express lrs was the leader. Cross fire is pricy
This video posted before ELRS released 3.0 which gave us 16 proportional channels. Since then, my POV has changed and I use ELRS for most setups.
Elrs uses crossfire 😮?
Ｐｒⓞм𝕠𝕤𝐌 👀
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Lol..It is actually called Solder, with an L, as apposed to Soder as you Americans always call it.
We've redefined the pronunciation. There was a meeting.