Slovakian folk dance: Parchoviansky cardas (Ej na tarki)
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2007
- Interpretation of a Slovak folk dance with Hungarian origins. Done by Folklórny Súbor Jahodna, based in Košice, Slovakia. Recorded at Moaña, Galiza, Spain on 18/08/2007. The name of the song is "Ej na tarki, na tarki".
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Danza tradicional eslovaca con orixes húngaras. Interpertada por Folklórny Súbor Jahodná, de Košice, Eslovaquia. Gravado en Moaña o 18/08/2007 no Festival Internacional O Folclore do Mar. - Видеоклипы
Pozdrav iz Slovenije bratje Slovaci, lepi živahni plesi.
Greetings from Slovenia brother Slovaks, nice lively dances.
I really enjoy such positive comment.
Slovaks & Hungarians have been one nation (in political meaning) for 1000 years. We have fough together in every war and we have sufferend together during all diseases until modern history.
We eat gulas and dance cardas, as Hungarians eat their "ebed" and "vacsora" or drink "palinka".
Yes .
Natio Hungarico in middle age was only free persons, nobility.
Yes, csarda , csardas, guláš are Magyars words.
Yes ebed, obed Sk, vacsora, večera Sk
Palinka Hu, Pálenka Sk,
Páliť Sk = éget Hu, Burn En,
Úristen, már ezt is lenyúlták!
well i'm from Debrecen and in 2009 i was there with my formal class. in slovakian language is Parchoviany and it's hungarian name is Parnó. And there was a nice old lady whose cooked us briós(brioche) and we speaked with her in hungarian language. And hungarian and slovakian culture is pretty the same because we lived with each other for 1000 years... Our language is different.
For all those who think this is clear Hungarian music!
Remember that Čardás did not originate in Hungary, but in the Hungarian kingdom, which included many nations!!! Because we were in the same kingdom and this style of music just spread freely among the peoples of the empire. And who does this spirited style of music come from? The answer is simple, from the gypsies - Sinti. You can notice many gypsy elements in the dance, especially when the men dance, for example, rhythmically hitting to feet, jumping, squatting, stomping, clapping or snapping fingers. Gypsy bands created this style of music and played it in pubs and balls (one Slovak folk song even begins - "Zahraj cigán čardáš-Gypsy, play čardaš"). We can only guess in whose territory it began to develop, since we were in the same kingdom and these musicians played freely throughout the empire. This spirited music played by the gypsies was transformed to varying degrees into folklore in Hungary, Slovakia, Transcarpathia, Romania, Moravia and mingled with the old dance style. Wallachian music, which is found from Romania to Moravia, had the same influence. As in other countries, these influences were also mixed in Slovakia. However in some mountain areas, the old original style of music in the form of fujara, bagpipes and violins has been preserved. Similar examples of the spread of the style of music can be seen in Eastern Europe and the Balkans.
So if this is the čardáš from the Parchovany, it is not a Hungarian, it is a dance that originated in the village of Parchovany, under the influence of the dispersion of this kind of music in the territory of the Hungarian Kingdom at the time.
ruclips.net/video/6WQOf_S-cqI/видео.html Here is an authentic video showing gypsies from spain (so no hungarian influence) from 1910, from 0.30 seconds a man dances a dance element that is very common in hungarian táncok, coincidence?
ruclips.net/video/6Vk3F871GDg/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/2UJu9kqk5QE/видео.html
The movement with the skirt is also a striking element. ruclips.net/video/TQ26FW06pHk/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/A7m1fAHW86M/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/5y2Rq00vTs8/видео.html
I saw some slovakian "folk dance group"-s before but this is the first group that shows authentic dances. Until this video I saw only traditional dancers from the villages presenting the real slovak folklor. Greating from Hungary!
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Krása naša slovenská.
At 3:34 there is a song , one "magyar nóta" "Lakodalom van a mi utcánkban..."
"There is a wedding in our strreet...."
I want to tell you this is not folksong. It is a typical "magyar nóta"
But very good sample for the effects of the cultures to each other.
one of the best folk dance
Thanks for posting
Krásne radosť pozerať
Beautiful music
Excellent dance! Bravooo!
Really enjoyed this thanks for posting have some land down the road from Koscise in Dolny Kubin.
its true. i;m slovakian , and speak slovakian annd everything, and im in a slovak dance group right here in toronto. i danced this dance!:)
but anyways, back to the point, some villages im southern slovakia where i went, they are actually hungarian and speak hungarian there as a first language. my grandama was born there and she knows hungarian too. lol she tried to teach me hungarian...and i tried to teach her some english:P
@TVaDaR I wish all slovakians and hungarians had the same opinion. Finger up.
In this case probably you are not right. The origin of the Csárdás can be driven back to about 1820 when the hungarian nobility faunded 3 dances. One was Palotás, other Körmagyar, and the third the Csárdás. So the Csárdás relativ new dance as the verbunk also. Form the cities it went to the villages and was getting folklorized.
nagyon jó a táncot ! a magyar táncokkal van hasonlóságot
this is a "char-dash" -- thank you because I have danced this sort of dance but to music from america and its fast and lively like this one - and its still danced today mainly to country music (small world) by the way this is an amazing dance group!!! Bravo !
one more. During "magyarization there were more roman school in transilvania, then in Romania. Isn't it strange? They learned in the schools built by the Hungarian-Austria monarchy. In their own language. But of couse they had to learn hungarian too.
don't forget: best slovak football player Puskas, best boxer Papp, best swimmer Egerszegi, graetest king Matyas...and so on!!
🌹🌼💮Slovak folklore is top notch!!!💮🌼🌹
good job!
during the history we were host for many-many thousend serb and roman refugees, Who came from the ottoman.
The romans became majority in transylvania after 1717 the last tatar invasion, They came from the area still occupied by the ottomans.
This is nice
Pohyb, prenostˇ, čísté pohybové prvky , super!
Nice dance !!
Jedinecne! :)
There's Slovakia since 1993. Slovakia hadn't existed since then. It was lawful hungarian territory. Also there wasn't slovakian nobility. The slovakian citizenship appeared after the Ottomans were driven away from the karpathian basin, and towns could flourish again. Slovakian pupils learn that Slovakia is the legacy of Great Moravia, but there isn't any historical or genetic evidence. Also there wasn't any Magyarisation in the Tátra/now Slovakia. The Habsburgs wouldn't have allowed it...
I see... Thank you
2,39-nél "Már ezután úgy élem világom..." Jó
This is a great hungarian csardas!
Relate to music, Hungarians are very short-sighted people, looking at only one side of the coin, my opinion :)
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I am very sorry you if you think about only this about the hungarians. The Hungarians lended much more - as specially in the folk music - then borrowing....What kind of written memoirs you can prestent to prove the high level cultue in the 9-th century? The first hungarian document is the faundation letter of the monostry of Tihany. from about 1000.
That's why so many serb and bosnian origin name of the janicsars. You can see the documents in Ankara. The arny was very well organised, many times they reported the members by name. Very nice documents to see who were the janicsárs....
100% Hungarian music and dance. Thank you.
Absolute shit :)
i get onto the weird folkdance side of youtube and there's a bunch of europeans fighting in the comment section
Some Hungarians are frustrated for the romantic memories of the Hungarian kingdom. This romanticism is greatly supported by the political establishment. These people are looking for videos with Slovak content and are trying to treat this complex with their comments.
Because it's simply not slovac folk music and dance. Argentine tango can be danced in many other South-American countries still they won't call it "Brazilian tango" it still remains Argentine tango - it's called respect dude. This is our dance and our music sold as Slovak - of course we are upset. If it's Slovak, then how come the Checks don't dance it??? They used to be Check-Slovakia, they speak the same language and the Checks are aware of that it's Hungarian.
i just looked up ´´slovak folk dance´´ because i wanted to compare yours to ours or find out if you even have any the first video youtube found was this video :D a hungarian csárdás well what did i expect right ?
Buttered Toast slovaks dont have anything its a mish mash of polish czech and hungarian a 300 years old nation with a country just turned 100 year between countries and nation older than 1000 years their coat of arms their language their flag their national anthem their folk wear and dance everything is just a mish mash and copy of others
this isnt the problem the problem starts when they claim all these things as their own and original they often act like they would be masters to us or something imagine if an american white dude would say that the culture of the native americans was the caucasian culture that would be a little bit ridiculous
@@911Maci It's not only the dance and music they are stealing but the dresses too. If you search "slovac folk dresses" they look completely different. Also slavic dances are all based on polka. What we see in this video is 100% Hungarian including the music. My problem is that they call it slovac - not the fact that they love Hungarian culture. For that I'm happy.
Please show me when was declared that the strapacka is hungarian food? When was declared, that Kubicsek or Trellicka was hungarian name? What kind of clothes was declared to be hugnarian: the sandal "bocskor"? the hungarians had csizma. When they went to church that is sure.
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in 1947 My grand-grand mother told, she had german motherlenguage, but having hungaian filing. Her sister told she had hungarian motherlenguage but german origin. My grand-grandmother might stay, her sister had to go to Germany.
The hungarians did not want to lieve their home. that's why they told what they told!!!
Don't you think? One family from Slovaky arrived to Villany to my grand-grandmother house. He was Trellicska....
Funny???
Please live and let live. Cultures have been always mixing together,we took some from hungarian culture,you took some from slovakian.That's normal process and you won't change it with your comments,you'll only build bad reputation for hungarians...cheers
good
And you can be praud of that!. I think it was a very dard chapter of the slovac hystory.
Se parece muito à dança húngara!
this dance is Hungarian by origin but performed by Slovaks(here) which is good because Slovak girls are the most beautiful in the whole world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No it isnt hungarian origin. Hungarians took čardaš from Otomans and they took this dance from anatolian Greeks and they took it from God know who...
@@Lea_Kaderova Then how come Greeks and the Turks don't dance this way you moron. Envy Hungarians much? Idiot
In during the centuries the armdances with sword evuluted to the botoló, and all couple dances too. and the evolution of the couple dances can be traced . first time the couples did not touch each other.only leater and they started tobe closer and closer to each other.
The end of this is the "széki lassú" wher there is no distance between the dancers.
Yes, that is true! During the ottomans we lost a lot of people. Because the hungarians were in war with them until the slovacs in the hills made a lot of children. Where were the slovacs that time?
@CQIPR You may see many similarities in scardás, of course - but that is not the only dance Slovaks or Hungarians do have. You have to browse many other video´s to see many different cultral regions and it´s folclore dance.
Remembers me other dance group: FS Ostroha
The Ottomans had two armies. One was the Anatolian army , The most of the sodiers were turky here. The second was the rumelian army. This was the european army, and the soldiers were from the occupied nations from the Balkan. One form of the tax there was to add boys for the army,. And they bacame janicsar.
If Sarolt is a "slovac" name then why is this name a typical hungarin name, and not a typical slovac name? Gejza is from the hungarian Géza. Géza is from the Árpád house?
Do you think then the Árpád house were slovac?
They are from Kosice, Slovakia.
How dare you call it Slovakian folk dance?? You thieves! This is pure Hungarian including the music and clothings! Slavic dances are totally different! 🤬😡
@@timmytee734 A szlovákok se panaszkodhatnak hogy nincs köztük annyi prosztó mint közöttünk úgyhogy jól Megvitathatjátok mindezt Ilyen buta hozzászólásokkal mint a tied
@@TVaDaR Na ide figyelj te senkihazi; tanuljal tortenelmet es kulturat, azutan pofazzal nekem te elszlovakositott magyarul makogo hazatlan primitiv egyed.
Nezzel mar utana, hogy oltoznek a slavok es hogyan tancolnak! Mert ehhez semmi kozuk. Ez magyar 100% es senkinek nincs joga ellopni. Tancolni lehet de magukenak hazudni felhaborito.
The fact is important. 120 years ago there wee more romanian lenguage school in Transylvania then behind the Karpati hills in Romania!
This is fact. So that was the hungarian "magyarization. You are right!!! They had the rights! More rightsthey had in Hungary then in Romania that time. Thats' why they crossed the Karpati during centuries, and became majority in Transylvania.
'Csardas' is a Hungarian dance and word. What's with the hatred?
The original video format was panoramic, but youtube transformed the size to 4:3.
the question is not the source of the money. But for what was it spent. And it was spent for schools. And the Hungarian state spent more then the Roman.
The hungarians have got to do witht hte mongolians just so much as you. The slovac folklmusic is full of folksongs, that are from middle asia, and certainly the slovac peope liked them becaue they learned from the hungarians. And of course they formed them to their style.
But not only the folkmusic but the composed musics are aso had effect, See these songs. at 3:60 is one of the most famous "magyar nóta" "lakodalom van a mi utcánban" a "weeding is in our street".. But it itis slow song.
My only problem is that csardas referred here as "traditional slovakian". If slovaks want so badly to be hungarian then let them join the hungarian motherland !!!
@petodell1 was not neccessary. thousend of slovac people came down to the Big Hungarian Plain during the summer agriculture work, but if not htis village its, neighbour. The are of the interaction was not north Hungarz where the slovac were in majority, but on the land, in summer time.
@Boborbsea not by the hungarian ethnic, but the hungariaans nobels.
Csárdás,
palotás
körmagyar
verbunk
these are the main dances of the refom ages, and these music was written music that time.
Bihari wrote more then 100 verbunk and these music was folklorized in the hungarian kingdom
You should search in you vocbulary how manz thousend hungarain words you use. The hungarians have perhaps a few slovac, and a lot ancientslav and not slovac words.
When Joseph the II. introduced the german-languaged education, and the german language became the offical language in hungary during his reign, hungarians got offended, and we searched our history and culture, renewed the hungarian language, and people started to wear hungarian style clothes and host "pig slaughtering" and "christening feasts" like old hungarians did. There is hungarian culture and it's always changes, and we are proud of it, as you proud of your culture i think.
LOL why are you guys ALWAYS fighting about the origins of the music? Every eastern-europe video with awesome music(like here) seems to have these arguments in the comments? Just WHY? Why do you care so much? For instance, Franz(Ferenc) Liszt was born in Hungary, but lived a great deal of his live in Germany as well in Austria and other places. But there's never a "HE WAS A HUNGARIAN YOU ***HOLE" etc. comments. Can someone explain?
yes! We call this together smallAntant!
Just I pointed that that where the slovacs were during the turkey war...They had no losses, becuse they lived in north of Hungary. Most of the serbs and romans (that time called wlaches) were janicsars in the rumelian army.
The slovacs went to live to the land after the osman were kick out. And ther were big empty areas. For example to Szarvas near the Körös river. Yes, From north, from the hills. Still most of the slovacs live there!!!
thsi german guy probably saw all hungarian dances from Pozsony to Brasso, or from Sopron to Kolozsvár. The speciality of the hungarian dances that they conservated the evolution of the folk dances, and still today, they are dances what the guy mengtion in Somogy, but we have that couple dance of the world where the pair are closest to each other as possible. Look at "széki lassú!"
The dance history is not based on Franz Ernst
Many dance from the reneisaince folklorized.
This dances are much closer relation with the hungarian dances in the regio of Zemplin or Szatmár,, then with the dances in west Slovaky. Nice prove for the interaction of the cultures.
no one tune Sir! Hundreds.
But you should argue with Béla Bartók. He and Kodály Zoltán make the first records, in fonograf and gramofons, of the folk music in our region.
@bibi5027 you are speaking about primitive slav tribs? During the hungarian conquest there were nod slovac, chroat, chekians,etc, They spoke about the same slav lenguage until the XVI centurry. That was the reason that Mátyás could speak and understand all slav lenguage around Hungary. The slovac nation may thanks for Hungary that tuday there are at all slovacs on the world. in ohter countries they must have asimilated to the bigger slav groups.
Dear! That tune what I mentionedhas composer!!!! It is not folk song!
It went to the folk! but the origin is a melody by a gypsy composer!!!
If you can not accept this simple fact - and this is not hunarian propaganda -
Then how to continue about more difficult question to have agreement?
I am very sad, But still bilieve in the future, that the next slovac generation will have not woodhead.
Village "Parchovany" - region Zemplin
It's not stealing! It's just cultures living next to each other. For example our Csango minority's culture in Romania is very similar to Romanian, and you would be the angriest if a Romanian told you we stole their culture. First think, after say something!
You have no idea how much hatred and racist fanaticism is brewing in Slovakia against their Magyar neighbors, who never hurt them in any way. In fact, Hungary lost a huge part of its land to Slovakia. You may ask, why so much hatred? Guilt, perhaps?
Again . Zoltan is a title in the old hungarian army. Zoltán has turk origin name, in relation to sultan, It sg like major inthe modern army.
The hungarian lenguage has ca 300 ancient turk words . For example Árpád, or most of the hungarian names of the peole of Árpád had turk origin names.
Sorry for the word, but I could not find better one. If you deny 1+1=2 how to step further to the logarytm???
Csárdás was founded for the nobility. They wanted to have something similar then the farmers had, Similar to the folk, But not the same because it was shitsmelly...In the hungarian nobility there were many not hungarian origin people too. Hrvats, serbs, slovaks etc. But they were hungarian nobles!!! And for them that was not important that they were hungarians, serbs, or etc. One was important. They were part of the hungarian nobilty.
Fair enough. But by saying this you also seem like one the people that care more about historical origins than the music. Just what I was complaining about!
the csárda has a turk origin name and we borrowed from the chroats or serbs. Later this word was used for the pubs-motels near the roads, becuase they were similar tot he "turk cardak"....
The dance name is originated from the hungarian reform ages, and the slovacs and romanians and germans borrowed the name and the dance from the hungarians Do not forget this dance was the dance of the hungarian nobles first !! And in the word it is kept hungarian dances you like it or not
RIa Ria Mongolia....................
@IvanovicSk What do you mean dear?
The origin of the tune? That is clear, it has a composer. A gypsy violinist.
Who told, that there were not folklore? Please read first what was written!. Nobody. But there were no Csárdás before that time. Csárdás is one kind of new style dance. Before Csárdás there were many dances too for example circle dances, jumping dances, dances with arms, stick, etc. But not csárdás. By the way... many Csárdás tune was written by gypsies like Dankó Pista, and others, So many csárdás tune has composers!!!
This was many tune has not folk origin.
Semmijük se volt .és lám mindenük lett,vajon kik(t)ől ,és hogyan?
Nyalják ki az összes seggünket. Ezek még arra sem ügyeltek, hogy az elején ne legyen ott az a magyarul elhangzott mondat? "kezdje valaki!". Ezt csak mi értjük. Lehet, hogy ezek magyarok voltak a Felvidékről, de aki kitette őket a RUclips-ra az egy nagyot hazudott. Szarják össze magukat!
by the way... did you check the slovac origin of the tune at 3:42 ???
Slovakian populace could grow, but Hungarian populace was fighting the Ottomans for 300 years and the populace was stagnateing. By the way what did our ancestors wrong? They never meant to offend the slovakian populace, they were their people to protect and organise like any other ethnicity back then.
My grandfather told me that they were exiled from slovakia in the second world war, i don't remember why but they called themself hungarians, and i feel like i am hungarian too and i am proud of it. We are all brothers and sisters here, i don't see the point to offend each other because that one is slovakian, and that one is romanian, and the third one is hungarian. All what matters is our personal morality. But "mezei" is a hungarian word as i knew it means casual or normal.
They were not expelled, it was a "population exchange". Already after the First World War, national borders divided families. From the text on the old photo, I found out that some of my great-grandmother's relatives stayed in Hungary in the Boršód County. Many more of my relatives from all sides live in Hungary today - they were Slovaks, now they are Hungarians. And it's the other way around, because within the common country, people moved up and down.:)
Listen. Today the csardas is dance of slovacs, dance of romanians in Transilvnia, and dance of the hungarians too.
Every nation used the basic form from the XIX century and added their style to the dance. This is true also for the music. You like or not but originally the csardas had not folk tunes. Later the so called new style folkmusic became the most important tunes of these dance. And the new style folk music in the slovac and magyar folklore is almost the same. Its age is 150 years only.
You are wrong, the Romanians in Transsylvania are no dancing csárdás.
@@vasarelly37 Talán hiszek a saját szememnek! De ha nem is csárdásnak hivják a románok , attól még az az!
If the hungarians were nomadic horserider, then why the hungarian founded a state that was the strongest state in Europe until the war to the ottmans, that took 150 years without any support from europe?
So why not the slovacs founded that stat here?
I tell you in 900 there were no slovacs only not organised slav tribs here.
Can be . But one thing you forgot! The Hungarians took the words related to the agriculture not from the osmans! But from middle asia turkey language.
That shows they had it 1100 years ago We know that words, coming to the hungarian lenguage during the osman time. there are many. But they not related to the agriculture. for example: sör. But not alma !!!
Which village is the origin of this "cardas"?
I think somwhere in the east.
@petodell1 your comment clearly shows that you do not anything about the coltural interactions. Do you think the people did not move out from their village? There were markets, there were summer time agricultural works, there wer ethe army etc.
When the people learned somehwere new songs, they took it home and teached the other ones,. the ywere the "stars" that time.
from 2:45 one of the most knowen "hungarian nóta" the "Lakodalom van a mi utcánkban....." not folksong.
A gypsy write it ....
The problem is that the neighbours want to still everything from our tradition. One roman told, that we have 2333 roman origin word in our lenguage. The trough is that not more the 19!!!. including brynza!! in their lenguage 2,7% is the hungarian words....But brynza is slovac...
so you have to argue with the romans...
And do not mix the hungarian folk with the "magyar nóta" and "verbunkos". that was written by the gypsy musicians. Many tunes of them has been folklorized,but they can be pointed, and also can be founnd also in the slovak folkmusic.
Only one thing I would like to ask you about the genetics. What is your opinion about if somebody has 1 slovak grandfather, 1 german grandmather 1 hungarian grandfather and one serb grandmather? Are they worse people then if somebody has "clean" slovac or other genetic code? Please! What do you want to use for the genetic code? To prove that one is better then the other?
this is a little bit fasistoid. Don't you think?
What kind of slovac food was declared to be hungarian, Please tell me, because my knowledge is defective.
what are you talking about? you named personalities who aren´t and weren´t related to slovak nation, except king Matej Korvin who was a king to all nations in the Kingdom!
@petodell1 So from 2:45 you can here the slovac version ot a famous "magyar nóta" the "Lakodalom van a mi utcánkban,,," "there is a wedding in our street",,,,, This is a typical magyar nóta, and not folk song.
I was written by a gypsy composer living in Budapes, Perhaps, in Szeged, serving with music the urban population of hungary....they also turned to the clear folklore but that time that was too smelly so they wrote a "better " for the taste of the urban people. These are the story of..
do you know the lenguage in the schools in Hungary during the centuries? I was not hungarian. I let you to tell me, Let's see do you know it or not? Do you receive the my longer answeres that I send you not through youtube?
I am really sorry for that people who can not understand the interaction of the cultures. Of course the "cardas" has hungarian origin. But trully speaking the porka, polka, walzer, etc, has no hungarian origin. Did we steal them. Of course not. The hungarians liked it and learned it.. As the slovac neigbours liked the csárdás.
i think that slovaks and germans should thank hungarians for saving european civilazation for centuries from the eastern invasion...and finally...csardas is HUNGARIAN !!!
I am a very glad to watch that the Slovaks likes the Hungarian dances and music. So they use the common, more than 1000 years old culture and tradition of Carpathian Region.
@WewweP "Ej na tarki, na tarki" watch?v=uVGRgqmyS14&feature=related
There was no Franz or Ferenc or even "Liszt". Ever. Go to Austria, find his birthplace and check the birth register for his real name. You will be surprised. The state official refused to enter/register the baby's name into the birth registration book. He said the name is against the state law and has to be either Franz or Ferenc but the father was vehemently against it, he argued and stood his ground. The official wanted to go home and a compromise was reached. And it was not Franz or Ferenc.