George, I know this video is a couple of years old, but I figured that I would let you know what the -3 means on the piston. First off, that's a standard size piston and the part number is DB209-3. That's why there is a -3 on the piston. The piston that superseded it is DB209-5. There would be a -5 on the DB209-5 piston. Wisconsin made improvements to their pistons as time went by. Oversize pistons would be marked on top .010, .020, etc. The early DB209 piston was a split skirt design, had a longer skirt, and was not cam ground. The DB209-3 and -5 are not the split skirt type and are cam ground. The piston thrust surfaces on the -3 are two different widths, and the -5 has equal size thrust surfaces. The oil ports in the oil ring groove are machined differently in the -3 and -5, also. The DB209-3 and DB209-5 pistons can be used in the Wisconsin AEH engine, also.
@@TheShadeTreeFixitMan You're welcome, George. I've been working on quite a few of these old Wisconsin engines and I've done a lot of research. For engine rebuild parts, call Tim Stein at Rock Creek Consulting. He has pistons, rings, rods, gaskets, etc., for many Wisconsin engines at unbeatable prices. I'm actually rebuilding an AENL with the same gear reduction unit on it as yours. I bought the engine mainly for the block, magneto, carb, etc. I'm not going to use the gear reduction unit or crankshaft, since I'm installing a crank and bearing plate to install the engine in an Economy tractor. You really can't beat these old Wisconsin engines, very well built, durable, and reliable. I watched a bunch of your videos, good stuff!
From 5000 miles away it doesn't look that bad, George. The important parts look pretty sound. I'm sure you'll figure out what's best. Enjoyed seeing it come apart.
+Bruce Boschek I will take more apart for cleaning purposes and then use the best from both motors to make one good one. Thanks for following along Bruce.
+RamblinAround The mice liked both of them, but this one more than the other even. I'm glad that this one is pretty clean inside so far. Two to make one, which was my original plan, but then I was hoping for two and that still might happen. Thanks for following along Jeff.
+geargriden19 I hope so too Daniel. I brought one home back during the Summer in something or other, but he didn't last long I guess because there haven't been any signs of one around. I am thankful that we don't have any mice on our property since we moved in 3 years ago. Thanks for stopping by.
Sounds like you are thinking of parting this one out to maybe supply parts for the other. Will this carb work on the other? If the bore is the same you could use the rings from this one? Nice update and take care
+Rusty “rustyglovebox” Glovebox I will use this one and part out the one with the broken rings, and rusted out interior. While the horsepower rating is lower, it must have been done with timing since most all of the parts are interchangeable. Thanks Lloyd.
+MrHevyshevy I haven't given up yet! I have a side job coming up that might help pay for the needed parts so that should move things ahead. Thanks for stopping by M.
Hi George I got a AENL-D motor that I like to rebuilt or partial done the problem is exhaust valve will not go up or down when turn the crank half away it will stop so have to find out which you maybe know what it might be ..My question is do you know where a person can get parts for them a certain site or something need `gaskets and so on ..I will really thank you much for your help ...
Sounds like you have a problem with your camshaft, or the cam gear may be stripped. You can view the manual and parts list here: www.m-and-d.com/pdfs/Wisconsin/AEN_AENL_AENS_instr_parts.pdf and there are plenty of parts for sale online on eBay or Amazon as well as Sam Bolens: www.samsbolens.com/wisconsin-engine-parts Hope these links are a help and enjoy your project. Unfortunately, I never finished mine before moving and gave them away.
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+not2fast4u2c I checked the oil level and it was full with no signs of water and clean. I will still tear it down completely and clean everything prior to painting, reassembly and start up. Thanks for taking a look with me Jim.
+roger oconnor My thoughts exactly. I purposely tore into the other one first, figuring if I could get it unstuck and then running, it would be a piece of cake for this one. Two into one is the plan now. Thanks Roger
+FullThrottle440 I probably will sell one of them to finance the use of the other in a future project. I do have some thoughts in my mind, but nothing concrete yet. Thanks for taking a look Dean.
+sparky107107 I do have a lot of interests, sometimes too many I think, but I am grateful for the abilities that God has given me. Thanks for following along.
No sir, I gave both of the Wisconsin motors to my friend Micah before I moved to Tennessee. You might want to inquire with him about it. Check in on his channel, BigDaddy1992: ruclips.net/channel/UCzM9rZ6UJS7KKKp7HJCYt1Q
I haven't finished my AENL engine yet, but hope to this Winter. I have an AEN and an AENL. I would like to get one of them running before selling anything. Thanks for your interest and keep watching?!
+MostlymoparIH OK, OK, is that a LITTLE motor cleaning or a little MOTOR cleaning? Whichever, I do have a fair amount of motor cleaning to do for sure. Thanks for taking a look.
That engine is a piece of art to my eyes , they had a lot style in design back then . thanks George !
+Willco Jak Hopefully it will look good when done as well as running well again too. Thanks for following along Jak.
George, I know this video is a couple of years old, but I figured that I would let you know what the -3 means on the piston. First off, that's a standard size piston and the part number is DB209-3. That's why there is a -3 on the piston. The piston that superseded it is DB209-5. There would be a -5 on the DB209-5 piston. Wisconsin made improvements to their pistons as time went by. Oversize pistons would be marked on top .010, .020, etc. The early DB209 piston was a split skirt design, had a longer skirt, and was not cam ground. The DB209-3 and -5 are not the split skirt type and are cam ground. The piston thrust surfaces on the -3 are two different widths, and the -5 has equal size thrust surfaces. The oil ports in the oil ring groove are machined differently in the -3 and -5, also. The DB209-3 and DB209-5 pistons can be used in the Wisconsin AEH engine, also.
Thanks so much for the information. I hope to get back to these old motors this winter.
@@TheShadeTreeFixitMan
You're welcome, George. I've been working on quite a few of these old Wisconsin engines and I've done a lot of research. For engine rebuild parts, call Tim Stein at Rock Creek Consulting. He has pistons, rings, rods, gaskets, etc., for many Wisconsin engines at unbeatable prices. I'm actually rebuilding an AENL with the same gear reduction unit on it as yours. I bought the engine mainly for the block, magneto, carb, etc. I'm not going to use the gear reduction unit or crankshaft, since I'm installing a crank and bearing plate to install the engine in an Economy tractor. You really can't beat these old Wisconsin engines, very well built, durable, and reliable. I watched a bunch of your videos, good stuff!
@@acb1199how do i get in contact with tim stein i would realy appreciate the info
From 5000 miles away it doesn't look that bad, George. The important parts look pretty sound. I'm sure you'll figure out what's best. Enjoyed seeing it come apart.
+Bruce Boschek I will take more apart for cleaning purposes and then use the best from both motors to make one good one. Thanks for following along Bruce.
That piston looks like it can deliver! I hope you can get at least one of them going again.
+John Strange I am confident that one will be running and maybe two? Thanks John. I'm really digging your new lathe.
We can't save them all Bud!!☺
+805ROADKING For sure, but that doesn't stop us from trying does it? I enjoy watching your builds. Thanks for stopping by.
At least it came apart fairly easy. Looks like the mice really liked it.
+RamblinAround The mice liked both of them, but this one more than the other even. I'm glad that this one is pretty clean inside so far. Two to make one, which was my original plan, but then I was hoping for two and that still might happen. Thanks for following along Jeff.
That's going to be one sweet motor when your done George.
+halfwayuphill I do hope so. Thank you.
Hi George - All is going well on this Wisconsin. "Cool" Mice live everywhere.
• Cheers from The Detroit & Mackinac Railway 🚂
+trainroomgary So far, so good. Thanks for checking it out.
Good update George hope to see ya get at least one running. Sure hope the mice was evicted before you got them. Have a good'nnnn
+geargriden19 I hope so too Daniel. I brought one home back during the Summer in something or other, but he didn't last long I guess because there haven't been any signs of one around. I am thankful that we don't have any mice on our property since we moved in 3 years ago. Thanks for stopping by.
Thanks for the look-see!
+vw64manyrd Thank you for stopping by.
looking good of to a good start
+Jim Rowlings Thank you Jim, I am encouraged.
Sounds like you are thinking of parting this one out to maybe supply parts for the other. Will this carb work on the other? If the bore is the same you could use the rings from this one? Nice update and take care
+Rusty “rustyglovebox” Glovebox I will use this one and part out the one with the broken rings, and rusted out interior. While the horsepower rating is lower, it must have been done with timing since most all of the parts are interchangeable. Thanks Lloyd.
I believe you can get em both running.
+MrHevyshevy I haven't given up yet! I have a side job coming up that might help pay for the needed parts so that should move things ahead. Thanks for stopping by M.
Hi George I got a AENL-D motor that I like to rebuilt or partial done the problem is exhaust valve will not go up or down when turn the crank half away it will stop so have to find out which you maybe know what it might be ..My question is do you know where a person can get parts for them a certain site or something need `gaskets and so on ..I will really thank you much for your help ...
Sounds like you have a problem with your camshaft, or the cam gear may be stripped. You can view the manual and parts list here: www.m-and-d.com/pdfs/Wisconsin/AEN_AENL_AENS_instr_parts.pdf and there are plenty of parts for sale online on eBay or Amazon as well as Sam Bolens: www.samsbolens.com/wisconsin-engine-parts
Hope these links are a help and enjoy your project. Unfortunately, I never finished mine before moving and gave them away.
@@TheShadeTreeFixitMan Thank you very much ..
George,, you are an inspiration :)
+Cary Lamari At least an encouragement I hope. Thank you Cari.
i like those older motors
+RobsPackanShine There is something unique about them. Thanks for stopping by
What are the head bolt torques and valve clearances on this unit? I have one that needs some TLC. THANK YOU.
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I hope this one is good inside with no rust I looks good so far
+not2fast4u2c I checked the oil level and it was full with no signs of water and clean. I will still tear it down completely and clean everything prior to painting, reassembly and start up. Thanks for taking a look with me Jim.
thanks for sharing.
+John Fry Thanks for taking a look John.
nice vid George
+59chevt Thank you Tom
Looks like Micky an Minny had a home in that engine cover George
+Charles Dyer They might have even raised a family in there for a while. Thanks for taking a look Charles.
Cool
+wtbm123 Thank you Terry
this one looks alot better than the first one,should be easier to get running
+roger oconnor My thoughts exactly. I purposely tore into the other one first, figuring if I could get it unstuck and then running, it would be a piece of cake for this one. Two into one is the plan now. Thanks Roger
very cool engine. when you get one or both running , do you have plans for what you will use them in?
+FullThrottle440 I probably will sell one of them to finance the use of the other in a future project. I do have some thoughts in my mind, but nothing concrete yet. Thanks for taking a look Dean.
Got a little motor cleaning to do.
+MostlymoparIH Much more than a little I am afraid. Thanks Marty.
you sure like to timker with stuff ,, keep them videos coming and I might learn something ,,
+sparky107107 I do have a lot of interests, sometimes too many I think, but I am grateful for the abilities that God has given me. Thanks for following along.
Was there any rats in the nest?
+BUDDY LIGHT The tenants had vacated the apartment, thankfully. Thanks for stopping by.
buy any chance do you still have that parts motor
No sir, I gave both of the Wisconsin motors to my friend Micah before I moved to Tennessee. You might want to inquire with him about it. Check in on his channel, BigDaddy1992: ruclips.net/channel/UCzM9rZ6UJS7KKKp7HJCYt1Q
Hello George, Do you have a rebuilt AENL which you would like to sell?
I haven't finished my AENL engine yet, but hope to this Winter. I have an AEN and an AENL. I would like to get one of them running before selling anything. Thanks for your interest and keep watching?!
Cool old motor Put in the Gadget Bike....lol
+MIKE MAYERAN TOOOOOO BIG for the Gadget Bike, but I do have another idea in mind for one of these old beasts
lol
Merry Christmas
Gotta little motor cleaning to do.
+MostlymoparIH OK, OK, is that a LITTLE motor cleaning or a little MOTOR cleaning? Whichever, I do have a fair amount of motor cleaning to do for sure. Thanks for taking a look.
Looks like there were several rats making a home in that engine :-)
+N Smith I expect they were Wisconsin rats, Norman. Thanks for following along.
not bad
+Elbows Malone Much better than the first motor for sure. Thanks EB.
Yes
Thanks for taking a look.
it will run - T=up George
+FixinThatUp Eventually, like a few of my projects it has gotten put on the backburner for now. Thanks Stan