The awful thing is if you bother the bots enough, you get mass reported and (in my case) your 13 year old account gets perma banned and you have to submit a million appeals in order to regain access to your account.
Yeah. Don't piss people off, if you can help it. Entire Guilds will literally mass report you and get you auto-banned, just for existing in the wrong spot at the wrong time.
@@Varokenikki Blizzard doesn't want to be bothered by a game version they didn't want to make in first place. We just signed a petition in masses in order to get these servers, so they finally, after over a decade of us asking for them, gave it to us. I feel like this is Blizzard's way of saying "Okay kids, you got what you wanted, now let's get back to regular WoW okay? We'll take care of you there."
@@TravisBlack That sucks because retail is just so boring. Never any danger, no need to improve to get through the game. Wish blizz would see why they had peaked during wotlk.
It has been crazy playing private servers like Turtle WoW and seeing bots get banned within 2 minutes of reporting them, and then coming to official servers and seeing bots making people millionaires by botting gold for years and years without repercussion.
private servers had a system where if you moved to quickly through the world the system would auto ban you. HSing or portals didnt trigger this, actual movement did. Also movement that goes up to quickly triggers that. Blizzard doesnt do anything cos these bots bring in huge amounts of money
@@mavenema1 it's probably the same as runescape where official employees are running bot farms and unbanning cheaters for real life money. Also the official employees are hitting on ugly female streamers lol.
You do realize that you pay monthly to kill the same mobs you killed 99999 times so far to kill again on hardcore. You guys are more pathetic than the bots.
@@VegetoStevieD mak'gora was invented way after the actual horde so it's basically a retcon, there's nothing to complain about the actual name (it's just a popular way to say it)
Thats honestly the best solution. Give a few people on each server GM privileges, after vetting them first. Id happily volunteer to be a GM (unpaid) and fix these problems; Id even provide recorded proof for evidence to counter any disputes. Its such an easy thing to do.
@@bluemyst42 fuck yeah id be god of a hardcore server, id stream and review hc glitch deaths. they wouldnt have to pay me caus i would make tens of milions anyway
In private servers there are much less bots because gold can't be transformed in real money... ofc they don't have these issues In wotlk classic there are associations with like 1000 computer, each ones running multiple bots, Blizzard can't physically face this, real money are involved guys
"Stop lying Dobby! You know the names of those botters!" "No, master Azamous! Please! Dobby can't tell you!" This is it, gentlemen. We must send used socks to Blizzard headquarters en masse. It is the only way. Make 'em stinky, lads.
@@boredgamer7841 but thats just how nowadays consumism works. Some1 get brilliant idea about problem that dont really exist/exist in very particular space, they find a fix, marketing it correctly and suddenly every1 need it. Marketing right now is in its pinnacle, if you are good talker you will sell shit to pedant person
People don’t understand how business works they added the wow token for there investors and their like where the fuck is our money Blizzard: uhhh well nobody bought the wow token Investors: Well wtf we aren’t giving you more money if you guys aren’t making a profit off of it. Blizzard: well maybe we should add classic plus alot of people are asking for hardcore/classic plus Investor: No Blizzard: can we do SOM2? Investor I.E activision: yea we don’t care If you think your 15 dollar subscription is doing anything to help you’re brain dead, the same people complaining about bots are the same people not buying wow tokens it’s just simple business 101. And the private server bans of botting makes sense cause it’s a smaller scale but every private server I’ve played I’ve played on is laggy because they don’t have the server capacity like activision blizzard
I sat outside the undead stratholme gate for 8 hours on offpeak yesterday, I ended up with 1400 kills on bots. 1400. this is factoring in that it only takes about 2 resses from where they die at the gate , to actually zone into the dungeon. meaning there were around 400 bots online. the total server population was around 3000 on offpeak - meaning 10 - 15% of the player base is stratholme mage bots alone (paladin bots are also very common in strath), this isn't even factoring in blackrock spire bots, ZG bots, SM bots, RFD bots, ZF bots or Open world bots, currently, it is incredibly likely that literally 1 in 5 players at the LEAST are a bot.
15 years ago if you had actually installed a flyhacking cheat and logged into the game you were disconnected and perma banned a few seconds later (or minutes at most). Only new unkown cheat programs wouldn't get instantly detected but even those wouldn't survive long until blizz had figured them out. What is going on today is just embarrassing
15 years ago when you said you play blizz games you had a time of your life and everyone around you who couldnt play was jealous. Now are the times that when you say you play blizz games you should be ashamed.
i vividly remember watching a video on youtube of someone fly hacking back in the day in shattrath, of all places, and he was perma banned within 9 seconds from the point he was off of the ground. not sure if it still exists, its been like 14+ years, but yeah, blizzard did have a solid anticheat back then.
Blizzard was the company that created the reputation that created their fanboys. They banned bots instantly, people got banned for goldbuying. English Servers were English and only had players from North Americas on their servers, GMs were actual people and even monitored raids covertly. It was a completely different era altogether. Almost feels like a different dimension. This modern corpse we call Blizzard is sick. I stopped playing their games years ago for this reason.
@@MrMittenshasatophat The "soul vs soulless" meme gets said a lot in regards to stuff it doesn't really apply to, but in the case of old vs nu blizzard the term soulless is the only thing that comes close to accurately describing their disgusting practice of business and what they have become
This is one of the main reasons that I quit. Blizzard would rather have their games filled with bots while they lose actual players and longtime fans. It's an easily solvable issue, they just choose to do nothing about it. Stop giving money to Blizzard's rotting corpse.
Some bots might be hard to detect but Blizzard has to at least clear out the obvious. Then they could implement better logging tools to catch harder cases. Instead we have a system that allows auto bans and Blizzard says that all reports are checked.
Well, i don't want to defend blizzard here, since blizzard hast lost all it's credibility by this point. But you have to consider botting is only a problem, because people are willing to buy gold with real money. If there was noone buying gold, the bots wouldn´t have a reson to farm gold. So the players are partially accountable for this problem.
@@mariuslehmann9291So we should allow the actions of a few players to completely ruin the game for everyone? There isn't a single online game that doesn't have to deal with cheaters. Trying to lay blame at the feet of innocent players is a bad take, and certainly doesn't get us closer to a solution.
@@chrisseger2346 Well, i dont think it's the action of a few players. I think a very large percentage of players are buying gold. I'm not saying blizzard shouldn´t hire GM's. That would be the solution to the problem. I mystelf resorted to the method of playing on private servers again. There is much less RMT hence less botting. Also there are GM's.
if you keep playing this game and feeding them money, theyre not going to do anything about it. i stopped playing in vanilla classic because of bots, and im glad about it when i see such videos. there are not enough people who punish the company by ending theyre subscription.
@@ogan3211 are u actually saying that? you have a lot of problems with it, ah economy break, "the new era of " gdkps guild on vanilla too, its become another p2w game... but well people pay d4 too so is the same crime, 70€ for a dont ended game, gj guys.
this company doesnt act like this. No video has any impact on their actions. They only act if the fire is already inside their house and most of the house is already burnt. Otherwise they dont care. Back in the day blizzard kept their games nice and treated them with respect and passion. Now the only people that care about the game are the players. And dont tell me about developers who still want to make game better but the director says... Just stop. If they cared about game, they would leave blizz and start a private server.
I think meta shit and botting is almost an equal cancer to the game. Not to mention this whole gold selling stuff too. Such a shame to see the game in this state for so long
Yeah i tried classic wotlk. Played for a day or 2 with some characters i had from vanilla. Every zone was absolutely dead probably was different past 60 but i didnt care to stick around to find out. Plus the heirloom gear made bgs absolute crap.
@@monolith1859 couldnt agree more. Its sad to see current state of wow, but on the other hand there is plenty of private servers worth checking out (eg turtle wow)
Kronos should be a good solution. Twow is full, meanwhile Kronos is dead although superior to twow in terms of true vanilla experience and owners with no controversies.
@@abaddon6579 even though I had fun on Kronos as well, I don't think it's superior to turtle wow in any way. Hybrid classes are finally somewhat balanced, so you are not forced to be healbot endgame. Also custom quests mean some zones don't feel as empty and is worth going to. Custom zones and dungeons make the journey even better in my opinion. And it feels lore friendly also
OG player here, 2005 onwards. Its amazing how much blizzard and the community screwed classic wow up. All the bots and gdkp and boosting and toxic culture 😂
Speed hacks and fly hacks are acutally the easiest thing in the world to detect and ban for. As its all data being passed to the server, processed on the server. If a player is moving too fast, or is flying in an area not on a flight path. Ban. Its really that simple.
It's not a tower, they go down at the entrance of stratholme baron and they aoe farm the dungeon 24h/24 They fly hack since players find out that there is so many bots doing the route from chapelle to stratholme, that it is litteraly worth it to grind them for honor So now they fly hack
I remember when classic era came out a little while back, before season of mastery, I played a Night Elf rogue. I was in Arathi Highlands, and camped a player using bots for 3 hours straight. After that time went by, I got a nasty whisper for the player that was using the bots. I reported him, and a day later, never saw him again.
Sheesh. This is worse than I thought. The devs clearly know about this, but for some reason they're not allowed to do anything. I want a whistleblower to tell why.
The bots are paying customers. Letting them do their thing for a bit before doing a ban wave makes EVERYONE happy. Blizzard has constant new monthly subs from the huge bots. The botters make a living having bots do their thing. The real players can just spend real money to get gold and not farm themselves. Oh I guess theres the 99% of the human playerbase who hates them and doesnt enjoy the economy being destroyed by them but who cares about that part. Honestly just play on a private server they have less bots and better service. Yet again we live in an age where "pirates" get the superior experience.
@@phenel never heard more bullshit then this... p-server are 10x less laggier then any wow server. No idea what issues you have, but i had 0 connection issues with privat servers for like 10 years. stop shitting on sth that is simply not true.
don't think it's the communities responsibility to go around moderating the game, got me fucked up if you think im paying $20 a month to do blizzards job for them
WoW is popping off on the Pserver scene, almost all good servers, more than I can count have over 8k people online per average plus they are awesome, other than streamers why play official WoW? Especially now.
I'm sick of the players complaining about Blizzard but still pay to play the game. You are directly contributing to this shit. Quit and play a different game until they are forced to fix it.
I think the issue ends up with how to actually manage. Private servers have handful of players compered to real wow so they can easily have mods to manage invidually. When again on wow we talk about tens of thousands accounts. And because players themself fund the RMT bisness you can endlesly reapeat the scripts of making new accounts. One solution would be autobans for flying or diving into group, untill it causes new issues like people buging mid flight/dropping throught the ground and getting permabanned. This again causes a new problem of players getting permabanned by bugs/clips. Renevue system is ofc the easy solution untill you realise that botters can also script this and spam the tickets non stop. Best way to combat bots would be bank account vertified accounts or just simply ban GKDP activities or those that are the main reason for ppl to do it.
Just imagine having employees in your company, then you can actually fight the botting issue, but good thing that the WoW Token does basically the same for them lol.
Its heartwrenching to see that this game has fallen so low, It was my all time favorite game. Guild Wars 2 has been a very good new mmo home for me, and none of this botting ever happens
I was waiting for the joke of the video. Then you said : Blizzard needs to see this video and act. And i laughed. Thank you, i was afraid you made a serious video.
Howdy Aza! There is a bot on the alliance side in bgs botting for over 5 months allready. We still report him with my friends, but nothing... Absolutely nothing. 😥
I remember like 10 years ago I used fly hack on a private server. And got teleported back every time I tried to use it. After couple of attempts I got banned.
Well, I quit the game like 5 months ago, got a 60 on HC - was in a top raiding guild in WotLK, and yeah, lost all interest after GDKPs, wowtoken and bots.
@@jarlfisk No, it wasn't from day one. I was 60 in a week back in 2019 and raided for a couple of months, weekly until P2, when the lag fest started. I quit retail YEARS ago, went back to WotLK Classic, lvlt 8chars to level 80, and raided almost every day for months- i had a gs of 5200 6month ago. I leveled my first character on hardcore to 60 without dying or any problems. I think you are delusional, when u describe me as a retail person
To be fair, of course, botting was always a part of WoW, I know that. and maybe gdkp, But they never bothered me so much that it felt irrelevant to waste any time on this game.
Imagine, Blizzard, a multi-billion dollar corporation, struggling to curb hackers, while small, underfunded private servers are effectively fortifying against them.
I get it's annoying there are bots in the game, but I still don't understand the LEVEL of outrage people have over it. As a regular player there's no noticeable negative to botting, especially if the bots are in dungeons. Sure it causes inflation, but unless you're raw gold farming (which you shouldn't be), your gold/hr simply rises with inflation. Why do people get so upset about it?
The outrage only exists on youtube, lol. It's a loud minority. Bots exist because people are buying gold. Players vote with their wallets for the bots to be a thing.
Creating anti cheat engine would cost money (and some negative reactions being an invasive softwate).Paying GMs to do the check manual costs money. Blizzard should add "Summon a GM" token where you pay a small fee for a quick response from a GM :P
Glad I'm on the PVE cluster. Haven't seen a bot in the wild for like 6 months at least, and there is not many in dungeons. And why is that? Because people that play PVE are less likely to buy gold. If no one buys gold, the bots will go away because there is no money to make. But as long as people are willing to pay real money for in game gold there will be bots. Players create a demand, both are just filling this demand. Instead of banning the bots permaban people that buy gold. It doesn't hurt getting banned an account you never played on and that already made you thousands of dollars. It does hurt to get permabanned in you account from 2005. If people started permabanning gold buyers on mass, the demand for botted gold would go down drastically, and then the amount of bots would go down drastically too. No point in botting if none wants to buy your gold. The problem isn't the botters. It's the people buying the gold.
Its weird to me, everyone complains about bots blablabla, yet everyone is decked out in the biggest items, throwing consumes every fight like candy, the people want to buy Gold on era and in wow in general, its a community made problem
Gold has spiraled out of control, mainly due to GDKP's. I think blizz should implement a feature in loot where you have the option of making loot in a raid "bind to guild." In practice, selecting this option would put loot directly in the guild bank (yes, I know blizz would need to make guild banks in classic, but no one would complain about that). Once said loot is in the guild bank, then folks with the bank rights and control would have a selection feature where they can give a certain piece of loot to a person in the guild for a certain amount of time, once the time is expired the loot goes directly back to the bank. Obviously you wouldn't have to do this with every piece, but high ticket items that don't drop all the time, and it would allow loot for classes like druids and others to not be wasted so people could have alts.
yes, that would be perfect feature to make boosting guilds store all gear and selling it to new invited players for $. Great one, everyone could gear their character in 10 minutes. No need of GDKP !
@@Yoxdaa you didn't read my entire post. My suggestion is that a player can only borrow the loot from the guild for a certain amount of time. And I'd probably add a feature where only people who were in the guild at the time of acquiring the loot have access to it. One bonereavers edge can't be used by multiple people at a time, just one.
thank you for making this video as someone who plays classic era. its really a shame seeing this stuff run rampant. a lot of the farming spots are just riddled with bots. i cant even farm anything.. this is going to kill the game
Wow what a surprise who could have possibly foreseen the impossible reality that blizzard was LYING about their ban waves and crap nooo waaaaay. Blizzard will see this and go "lol, what's for lunch?"
I am kinda happy I didn't try Wow Classic, because I haven't ruined my memories of the game. I played from 2004-2007, from launch to the end of BC and my memories are sacred to me.
i logged in right after maximal 2 minutes after server reset, strath was alreaddy full (50+). i killed with a warrior chad from 3:50 to 4:10 70+ bots. its a great new bg
Not paying them sub fees will bring attention. But Blizzard has been ignoring problems for longer than I can put my finger on anymore. I haven't paid these hacks since the release of WC3 Reforged. They're the king of false promises, laziness, groping, drinking, and making money hand over fist while doing it. Remember, game design and decisions stopped being decided on for their enjoyability a long time ago, their investors and execs are the game designers now through and through. Stop paying them.
Even worse now, in the main EU cluster the bots organized some mafia for the boosting. If you dare offering a lower price than them, they camp you 24/7 with rogues, making you unable to boost. So they can manage prices as they wish.
blizzard doesn't really have any incentive to do anything about it aside from integrity and motivation to keep the game good which they have none of. They've probably calculated that it is a net profit to keep the bots around to do what they do and it would be a net loss to get rid of them.
@@ForOne814 Then how come private servers i played on like 12-14 years ago had it so you would get instant dc after flying just a little above the ground? first dc then ban if repeated.
@@VegardLa private servers don't care if they wrongly ban people. And it's much more often that you get bugs that cause you to fly than flyhackers. Also it's literally fixed on retail.
@@ForOne814 those dc/ban was automated when detecting stuff like that. But bugs that cause you to fly? I don't think I have ever came across something like that. Ok so its fixed on retail? but they can't do the same on classic era, or wotlk classic? seems odd.. I mean sure they send out these ban waves every 4-6 months that have zero effect
@@VegardLa in order to determine that you're flying, the sever checks for your coordinates and evaluates them. If there are irregularites, it dcs you. Like, for example, when you fall under the map in open world, you get into a dc loop. It's a 20 year old game full of spaghetti code. Bugs are the norm. I dunno why it's possible to easily fly in classic but not on retail, but my guess is because some abilities rely on some part of the code that causes the ability to fly. Ban waves happen every other day, actually. It's only the big ban waves that happen every couple of months. There are ways to ensure that bots get banned quickly. Botters actually get rid of competition by mass reporting their accounts in a certain way. Though, it's on retail, I dunno about classic, I don't bot there. It's just way less profitable than on retail.
Gold on most Classic servers is like 1,000 gold for $6. That's 10,000 gold for $60. Even if Blizzard does something about the bots, the damage has already been done.
Every big company has the same issue, and they do nothing. Riot games has a problem with bots for 6 years, people are buying accounts that have been leveled by bots and it plagued the game to the point where there is 40% of the accounts playing ranked being bot leveled. They do nothing and people quit playing.
Blizzard makes more money off the botting problem than they would by fixing it. In a world where 0.0000001% of a profit margin matters blizzard will only do piecemeal, 'flashy' shows of mass bans once every 6 months, but then the botters and sellers are back 2 days later. It's a capitalism problem. People demand to buy gold instead of farm it, so the botters supply it and make money, probably paying people at blizzard in as part of the deal.
because they added in flying in tbc you absolutely idiotic third worlder. thanks for ruining the game experience. you are why we need to ban other countries from our servers.
Every time I'm interested in playing Classic Wow, I get reminded of these things.
join vanilla plus, they kept the vanilla feeling even with new changes, talent revamps, etc
@@dubzeiden dead server lol
@@Puretea4711 if people don’t join for that reason and follow hype it will never be well populated lol
ikr...then u go back to private servers where they constantly ban bots. lol
Join a server like nethergarde keep and u'll have 0 bots
People want to play mega servers full of bots and then complain about them, idk xd
strange to see a real, usable, actionbar for an azamous character
That’s how you know he’s serious
xDDDD@@Dandylocks
The awful thing is if you bother the bots enough, you get mass reported and (in my case) your 13 year old account gets perma banned and you have to submit a million appeals in order to regain access to your account.
Yeah. Don't piss people off, if you can help it. Entire Guilds will literally mass report you and get you auto-banned, just for existing in the wrong spot at the wrong time.
that's so wrong in so many ways...
@@Varokenikki Blizzard doesn't want to be bothered by a game version they didn't want to make in first place. We just signed a petition in masses in order to get these servers, so they finally, after over a decade of us asking for them, gave it to us. I feel like this is Blizzard's way of saying "Okay kids, you got what you wanted, now let's get back to regular WoW okay? We'll take care of you there."
u regain your account? Im still banned and they wont even look into the case.
@@TravisBlack That sucks because retail is just so boring. Never any danger, no need to improve to get through the game. Wish blizz would see why they had peaked during wotlk.
BOT ERA HYPE, BOT ERA HYPE
It has been crazy playing private servers like Turtle WoW and seeing bots get banned within 2 minutes of reporting them, and then coming to official servers and seeing bots making people millionaires by botting gold for years and years without repercussion.
private servers had a system where if you moved to quickly through the world the system would auto ban you. HSing or portals didnt trigger this, actual movement did. Also movement that goes up to quickly triggers that.
Blizzard doesnt do anything cos these bots bring in huge amounts of money
@@mavenema1 it's probably the same as runescape where official employees are running bot farms and unbanning cheaters for real life money. Also the official employees are hitting on ugly female streamers lol.
@@mavenema1 totally untrue lol nost and lh had tons of flybots
@@sygos The Blizz employees are desperate now that they locked the faculty fridge with all the breast milk in it
You do realize that you pay monthly to kill the same mobs you killed 99999 times so far to kill again on hardcore. You guys are more pathetic than the bots.
At least hardcore got a cool mak'gora banner. Well done dev team, these guys def know what to prioritize.
Been saying this. So crazy. Than all the main RUclipsrs spam promote mokgorah. So shi//y
Because it's such a small, easy implementation that requires no resources or effort. I'm glad I'm playing on turtlewow instead.
Horde culture given to both Horde and Aliance. What does Aliance get?
@@VegetoStevieD mak'gora was invented way after the actual horde so it's basically a retcon, there's nothing to complain about the actual name (it's just a popular way to say it)
@@regalswede3667 Shady Chinese invaded turtle wow... nice dude.... shenna aka torta is even more shady than blizzard
Even private servers ban botting and cheaters faster than Blizzard.
Thats honestly the best solution. Give a few people on each server GM privileges, after vetting them first. Id happily volunteer to be a GM (unpaid) and fix these problems; Id even provide recorded proof for evidence to counter any disputes. Its such an easy thing to do.
@@bluemyst42 fuck yeah id be god of a hardcore server, id stream and review hc glitch deaths. they wouldnt have to pay me caus i would make tens of milions anyway
As much as I hate Blizzard it's a bad comparison because they only have to worry about a few thousand max on 1 server.
In private servers there are much less bots because gold can't be transformed in real money... ofc they don't have these issues
In wotlk classic there are associations with like 1000 computer, each ones running multiple bots, Blizzard can't physically face this, real money are involved guys
@@bloodnva6745 There are bots and gold sellers on private servers as well. And it is sold for real money.
What do you mean? There are no bots on Classic, those are honest subscription paying human beings. This message is approved by Dobby Kotick.
Yeah. AzAMOuS discriminating real human players who like to drink a lot of redbull to be able to fly across the whole Azeroth needs to stop.
There is no botting in ba sing se
"Stop lying Dobby! You know the names of those botters!"
"No, master Azamous! Please! Dobby can't tell you!"
This is it, gentlemen. We must send used socks to Blizzard headquarters en masse. It is the only way.
Make 'em stinky, lads.
Thats their view of the community's iq level. They feed the players crap and players still play :)
Think you meant Kob Botick
Don't worry, they'll be adding the WoW token to classic to combat RMT.
the tried and true "create a problem, invent a fix to the problem you created" method.
@@boredgamer7841 but thats just how nowadays consumism works. Some1 get brilliant idea about problem that dont really exist/exist in very particular space, they find a fix, marketing it correctly and suddenly every1 need it.
Marketing right now is in its pinnacle, if you are good talker you will sell shit to pedant person
People don’t understand how business works they added the wow token for there investors and their like where the fuck is our money
Blizzard: uhhh well nobody bought the wow token
Investors: Well wtf we aren’t giving you more money if you guys aren’t making a profit off of it.
Blizzard: well maybe we should add classic plus alot of people are asking for hardcore/classic plus
Investor: No
Blizzard: can we do SOM2?
Investor I.E activision: yea we don’t care
If you think your 15 dollar subscription is doing anything to help you’re brain dead, the same people complaining about bots are the same people not buying wow tokens it’s just simple business 101.
And the private server bans of botting makes sense cause it’s a smaller scale but every private server I’ve played I’ve played on is laggy because they don’t have the server capacity like activision blizzard
They added it to wrath, its cheaper now to buy private gold then to pay for the subscription. 15$ in priavte gold is easily 2 months of wow.
and it doesn't stop RMT because they just sell twice as much gold for half the price
You disconnect in water by pressing spacebar in combat, but they flyhack around as if its normal
I sat outside the undead stratholme gate for 8 hours on offpeak yesterday, I ended up with 1400 kills on bots.
1400.
this is factoring in that it only takes about 2 resses from where they die at the gate , to actually zone into the dungeon.
meaning there were around 400 bots online.
the total server population was around 3000 on offpeak - meaning 10 - 15% of the player base is stratholme mage bots alone (paladin bots are also very common in strath), this isn't even factoring in blackrock spire bots, ZG bots, SM bots, RFD bots, ZF bots or Open world bots, currently, it is incredibly likely that literally 1 in 5 players at the LEAST are a bot.
15 years ago if you had actually installed a flyhacking cheat and logged into the game you were disconnected and perma banned a few seconds later (or minutes at most). Only new unkown cheat programs wouldn't get instantly detected but even those wouldn't survive long until blizz had figured them out. What is going on today is just embarrassing
15 years ago when you said you play blizz games you had a time of your life and everyone around you who couldnt play was jealous. Now are the times that when you say you play blizz games you should be ashamed.
i vividly remember watching a video on youtube of someone fly hacking back in the day in shattrath, of all places, and he was perma banned within 9 seconds from the point he was off of the ground. not sure if it still exists, its been like 14+ years, but yeah, blizzard did have a solid anticheat back then.
Blizzard was the company that created the reputation that created their fanboys. They banned bots instantly, people got banned for goldbuying. English Servers were English and only had players from North Americas on their servers, GMs were actual people and even monitored raids covertly. It was a completely different era altogether. Almost feels like a different dimension. This modern corpse we call Blizzard is sick. I stopped playing their games years ago for this reason.
@@MrMittenshasatophat The "soul vs soulless" meme gets said a lot in regards to stuff it doesn't really apply to, but in the case of old vs nu blizzard the term soulless is the only thing that comes close to accurately describing their disgusting practice of business and what they have become
Classic WoW probably includes only the 15 year old anticheat for "authenticity"
The community handled it better ourselves on Nostalrius and Light's Hope
Dodgey shit going on at lighthope tho
Lights hope GMs were running botting , there was tons of bots
Lights hopes had Gms running the bots themselves, there were more there than classic lol
the replys actually played those servers you just made a comment name dropping old private servers
People actually played those servers, fucking nobody is still playing era lmao
This is one of the main reasons that I quit. Blizzard would rather have their games filled with bots while they lose actual players and longtime fans. It's an easily solvable issue, they just choose to do nothing about it. Stop giving money to Blizzard's rotting corpse.
Some bots might be hard to detect but Blizzard has to at least clear out the obvious.
Then they could implement better logging tools to catch harder cases.
Instead we have a system that allows auto bans and Blizzard says that all reports are checked.
Well, i don't want to defend blizzard here, since blizzard hast lost all it's credibility by this point.
But you have to consider botting is only a problem, because people are willing to buy gold with real money.
If there was noone buying gold, the bots wouldn´t have a reson to farm gold. So the players are partially accountable for this problem.
@@mariuslehmann9291So we should allow the actions of a few players to completely ruin the game for everyone?
There isn't a single online game that doesn't have to deal with cheaters. Trying to lay blame at the feet of innocent players is a bad take, and certainly doesn't get us closer to a solution.
@@chrisseger2346 Well, i dont think it's the action of a few players. I think a very large percentage of players are buying gold.
I'm not saying blizzard shouldn´t hire GM's. That would be the solution to the problem.
I mystelf resorted to the method of playing on private servers again. There is much less RMT hence less botting. Also there are GM's.
@@mariuslehmann9291 Complete conjecture.
Either way, it would be pretty much a non-issue if Blizzard just did something about it.
if you keep playing this game and feeding them money, theyre not going to do anything about it. i stopped playing in vanilla classic because of bots, and im glad about it when i see such videos. there are not enough people who punish the company by ending theyre subscription.
Give this man, two beers! One for saying truths and the other for being able to leaving wow
And what exacly is doing bots to you ? and your gameplay ?
@@ogan3211 Fucking the economy up are you stupid
The Bots will just fill in the spots we left.
@@ogan3211 are u actually saying that? you have a lot of problems with it, ah economy break, "the new era of " gdkps guild on vanilla too, its become another p2w game... but well people pay d4 too so is the same crime, 70€ for a dont ended game, gj guys.
Blizzard Sees Video*
Blizzard: I know the perfect solution. Lets introduce the WoW Token to Classic ERA. This will reduce RMT and as a result botting
this company doesnt act like this. No video has any impact on their actions. They only act if the fire is already inside their house and most of the house is already burnt. Otherwise they dont care. Back in the day blizzard kept their games nice and treated them with respect and passion. Now the only people that care about the game are the players. And dont tell me about developers who still want to make game better but the director says... Just stop. If they cared about game, they would leave blizz and start a private server.
I wish they would add a fly hack option in the in-game store. I'd pay for it!
I stopped playing cause of bots and all that boosting meta stuff. GJ Azamous for calling this issue up! Love your content!
I think meta shit and botting is almost an equal cancer to the game. Not to mention this whole gold selling stuff too. Such a shame to see the game in this state for so long
Yeah i tried classic wotlk. Played for a day or 2 with some characters i had from vanilla. Every zone was absolutely dead probably was different past 60 but i didnt care to stick around to find out. Plus the heirloom gear made bgs absolute crap.
@@monolith1859 couldnt agree more. Its sad to see current state of wow, but on the other hand there is plenty of private servers worth checking out (eg turtle wow)
*actually* good RP to see a coven of gnome mages using magic to fly through the air
Playing private servers is the only solution.
True but now we have Chinalook or Chinawing we no have good option
@@Zajedwabisty124 Try Turtle WoW
Kronos should be a good solution. Twow is full, meanwhile Kronos is dead although superior to twow in terms of true vanilla experience and owners with no controversies.
@@abaddon6579 even though I had fun on Kronos as well, I don't think it's superior to turtle wow in any way. Hybrid classes are finally somewhat balanced, so you are not forced to be healbot endgame. Also custom quests mean some zones don't feel as empty and is worth going to. Custom zones and dungeons make the journey even better in my opinion. And it feels lore friendly also
Everlook is ok when u find decent eu guild
OG player here, 2005 onwards. Its amazing how much blizzard and the community screwed classic wow up. All the bots and gdkp and boosting and toxic culture 😂
its so sad i dont even want to play classic anymore and i loved it back in 2005
Can't wait to watch this video again when Asmon watches it and uploads it 2 hours from now.
and turns it into a 45 min video
Speed hacks and fly hacks are acutally the easiest thing in the world to detect and ban for. As its all data being passed to the server, processed on the server. If a player is moving too fast, or is flying in an area not on a flight path. Ban. Its really that simple.
Just curious, because I have no clue, but what are the mages doing (purpose) for going up and out the tower?
It's not a tower, they go down at the entrance of stratholme baron and they aoe farm the dungeon 24h/24
They fly hack since players find out that there is so many bots doing the route from chapelle to stratholme, that it is litteraly worth it to grind them for honor
So now they fly hack
Blizzard doesn't even need a gm, just add a zone at the top of the tree that auto-bans them a day later.
can't wait to see this on Hardcore
I remember when classic era came out a little while back, before season of mastery, I played a Night Elf rogue. I was in Arathi Highlands, and camped a player using bots for 3 hours straight. After that time went by, I got a nasty whisper for the player that was using the bots. I reported him, and a day later, never saw him again.
Sheesh. This is worse than I thought. The devs clearly know about this, but for some reason they're not allowed to do anything. I want a whistleblower to tell why.
The bots all pay a monthly sub!
The bots are paying customers. Letting them do their thing for a bit before doing a ban wave makes EVERYONE happy. Blizzard has constant new monthly subs from the huge bots. The botters make a living having bots do their thing. The real players can just spend real money to get gold and not farm themselves. Oh I guess theres the 99% of the human playerbase who hates them and doesnt enjoy the economy being destroyed by them but who cares about that part. Honestly just play on a private server they have less bots and better service. Yet again we live in an age where "pirates" get the superior experience.
@@redwater1995 unfortunately, the pirate/private servers are laggy for anyone outside the US.
@@phenel never heard more bullshit then this...
p-server are 10x less laggier then any wow server. No idea what issues you have, but i had 0 connection issues with privat servers for like 10 years.
stop shitting on sth that is simply not true.
Haha great skit man! I love those fly-hacking characters, how do you come up with this stuff lmao
It seams easier to run down and mass report bots as a guild / raid, than blizzard acting and doing something.
don't think it's the communities responsibility to go around moderating the game, got me fucked up if you think im paying $20 a month to do blizzards job for them
For the first time ever I can honestly say I hope Asmon reacts to this so the message will blow the fuck up.
WoW is popping off on the Pserver scene, almost all good servers, more than I can count have over 8k people online per average plus they are awesome, other than streamers why play official WoW? Especially now.
literally this,I'm back on privat servers since classic bc
Name some so i can check them after work. Looking for vanilla server
streamers play official wow because they can get dmca'd if they play on private servers lol streamers are corporate cucks
@@deathlyit7273 Turtle wow or ascension wow
I'm sick of the players complaining about Blizzard but still pay to play the game. You are directly contributing to this shit. Quit and play a different game until they are forced to fix it.
this is the real reason why blizzard wont add SSF to official HC servers.....it would ruin the money they make from bots
blizzard: that's not fly hacking, that heaven elevator
They're preparing the bots for HC classic.
Death = No rez?
No death no problem!
I think the issue ends up with how to actually manage. Private servers have handful of players compered to real wow so they can easily have mods to manage invidually. When again on wow we talk about tens of thousands accounts. And because players themself fund the RMT bisness you can endlesly reapeat the scripts of making new accounts.
One solution would be autobans for flying or diving into group, untill it causes new issues like people buging mid flight/dropping throught the ground and getting permabanned. This again causes a new problem of players getting permabanned by bugs/clips. Renevue system is ofc the easy solution untill you realise that botters can also script this and spam the tickets non stop.
Best way to combat bots would be bank account vertified accounts or just simply ban GKDP activities or those that are the main reason for ppl to do it.
Just imagine having employees in your company, then you can actually fight the botting issue, but good thing that the WoW Token does basically the same for them lol.
Blizzard looking at this footage: wow look at all those paying customers! 🤑🤑🤑
Its heartwrenching to see that this game has fallen so low, It was my all time favorite game. Guild Wars 2 has been a very good new mmo home for me, and none of this botting ever happens
I absolutely adore that thumbnail
I was waiting for the joke of the video. Then you said : Blizzard needs to see this video and act. And i laughed. Thank you, i was afraid you made a serious video.
Math is simple:
Do bots give Blizzard Money? Yes. So why do shit against it?
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The bots are hosted by a blizzard intern, I don't have any doubts
The real truth is that blizzard could not care less about normal players, a botter pays for 40 accounts and you pay for one.
Howdy Aza! There is a bot on the alliance side in bgs botting for over 5 months allready. We still report him with my friends, but nothing... Absolutely nothing. 😥
as as there are people still paying subscription , the player base can bark as loud as they can they won't do a thing
I remember like 10 years ago I used fly hack on a private server. And got teleported back every time I tried to use it. After couple of attempts I got banned.
It's not Blizzard, Blizzard is dead. This is Activision using Blizzard's reanimated corpse.
i reported on the EU cluster daily over 250 different bots still the same names running and flying
Ofc they are
Well, I quit the game like 5 months ago, got a 60 on HC - was in a top raiding guild in WotLK, and yeah, lost all interest after GDKPs, wowtoken and bots.
appreciate ur video tho
Lol it was like that from day one 2019 classic release, and first now you went like: oh this is too much ... Retail people 😅😅
@@jarlfisk No, it wasn't from day one. I was 60 in a week back in 2019 and raided for a couple of months, weekly until P2, when the lag fest started. I quit retail YEARS ago, went back to WotLK Classic, lvlt 8chars to level 80, and raided almost every day for months- i had a gs of 5200 6month ago. I leveled my first character on hardcore to 60 without dying or any problems. I think you are delusional, when u describe me as a retail person
To be fair, of course, botting was always a part of WoW, I know that. and maybe gdkp, But they never bothered me so much that it felt irrelevant to waste any time on this game.
@@mrclgrng ok
I thought this voice was put on for the funny videos. It's actually his serious voice too 😂
Imagine, Blizzard, a multi-billion dollar corporation, struggling to curb hackers, while small, underfunded private servers are effectively fortifying against them.
Imagine, Blizzard, a multi-billion dollar corporation, paying money to lose money.
@@ForOne814 Lose money? why? doing a good work means losing money? Are you good in the head?
@@Soldadodelasombra you think that bots get free sub?
@@leekisde1271 bots are the reason why Even more people left the Game. If You only care about subs a numbers, go sell drugs Will make Even more money
I get it's annoying there are bots in the game, but I still don't understand the LEVEL of outrage people have over it. As a regular player there's no noticeable negative to botting, especially if the bots are in dungeons. Sure it causes inflation, but unless you're raw gold farming (which you shouldn't be), your gold/hr simply rises with inflation. Why do people get so upset about it?
The outrage only exists on youtube, lol. It's a loud minority. Bots exist because people are buying gold. Players vote with their wallets for the bots to be a thing.
You are the leader of the rebellion. We need to petition Blizz.
Creating anti cheat engine would cost money (and some negative reactions being an invasive softwate).Paying GMs to do the check manual costs money. Blizzard should add "Summon a GM" token where you pay a small fee for a quick response from a GM :P
Always happy for the motivation to resub... 😅
You pay money to Blizzard?
Found the problem right there bud
Glad I'm on the PVE cluster. Haven't seen a bot in the wild for like 6 months at least, and there is not many in dungeons. And why is that? Because people that play PVE are less likely to buy gold. If no one buys gold, the bots will go away because there is no money to make. But as long as people are willing to pay real money for in game gold there will be bots. Players create a demand, both are just filling this demand. Instead of banning the bots permaban people that buy gold. It doesn't hurt getting banned an account you never played on and that already made you thousands of dollars. It does hurt to get permabanned in you account from 2005. If people started permabanning gold buyers on mass, the demand for botted gold would go down drastically, and then the amount of bots would go down drastically too. No point in botting if none wants to buy your gold. The problem isn't the botters. It's the people buying the gold.
Its weird to me, everyone complains about bots blablabla, yet everyone is decked out in the biggest items, throwing consumes every fight like candy, the people want to buy Gold on era and in wow in general, its a community made problem
It's a whale made problem. The community is smothering under the blubber of the whales.
It's an overall human problem. Lots of people don't want to play by the rules, and the company doesn't care as long as you keep paying.
@@DarkScreamGames yea its so annoying to have these whales in every game
Most players are simps/sheeps for this corrupt company. They complain and continue to throw more gasoline on the fire.
Gold has spiraled out of control, mainly due to GDKP's. I think blizz should implement a feature in loot where you have the option of making loot in a raid "bind to guild." In practice, selecting this option would put loot directly in the guild bank (yes, I know blizz would need to make guild banks in classic, but no one would complain about that). Once said loot is in the guild bank, then folks with the bank rights and control would have a selection feature where they can give a certain piece of loot to a person in the guild for a certain amount of time, once the time is expired the loot goes directly back to the bank. Obviously you wouldn't have to do this with every piece, but high ticket items that don't drop all the time, and it would allow loot for classes like druids and others to not be wasted so people could have alts.
yes, that would be perfect feature to make boosting guilds store all gear and selling it to new invited players for $. Great one, everyone could gear their character in 10 minutes. No need of GDKP !
@@Yoxdaa you didn't read my entire post. My suggestion is that a player can only borrow the loot from the guild for a certain amount of time. And I'd probably add a feature where only people who were in the guild at the time of acquiring the loot have access to it. One bonereavers edge can't be used by multiple people at a time, just one.
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thank you for making this video as someone who plays classic era. its really a shame seeing this stuff run rampant. a lot of the farming spots are just riddled with bots. i cant even farm anything.. this is going to kill the game
They don't even care for bots in retail. There are areas where groups of bots are aoe farming 24/7 and nothing is being done about it.
Wow what a surprise who could have possibly foreseen the impossible reality that blizzard was LYING about their ban waves and crap nooo waaaaay.
Blizzard will see this and go "lol, what's for lunch?"
Just a normal day for me.
Btw what server are you on?
I see you're on the firemaw cluster
This is lore accurate, they are mages after all, they can fly, go through closed gates and create gold!
I am kinda happy I didn't try Wow Classic, because I haven't ruined my memories of the game. I played from 2004-2007, from launch to the end of BC and my memories are sacred to me.
You make my day,azamous
It's not just Stratholm the bots run.
At Dire maul East you find Warlocks and Priests.
Maraudon and Zul Gurub you find some more mage bots
i logged in right after maximal 2 minutes after server reset, strath was alreaddy full (50+). i killed with a warrior chad from 3:50 to 4:10 70+ bots. its a great new bg
What's the background track used in the video? It's from Skyrim, I just can't remember the track name...
Not paying them sub fees will bring attention. But Blizzard has been ignoring problems for longer than I can put my finger on anymore. I haven't paid these hacks since the release of WC3 Reforged. They're the king of false promises, laziness, groping, drinking, and making money hand over fist while doing it. Remember, game design and decisions stopped being decided on for their enjoyability a long time ago, their investors and execs are the game designers now through and through. Stop paying them.
You say hacker, I say paying customer
Whats the point of bots? Is it a gold farming thing? Do people use them to level alts of something?
Can't wait for the bot report token for only $70!
Even worse now, in the main EU cluster the bots organized some mafia for the boosting.
If you dare offering a lower price than them, they camp you 24/7 with rogues, making you unable to boost. So they can manage prices as they wish.
I wonder if we'll ever see the Lich King defeated by bots, but as a world first.
Blizzard is like the guy you paid in advance last year to fix your driveway
What are the developers thinking about it? That's right, PROFIT only
1:51 premixx the hero good he has some fresh milk
Blizzard is like those parents who makes kids only to receive child support.
blizzard doesn't really have any incentive to do anything about it aside from integrity and motivation to keep the game good which they have none of.
They've probably calculated that it is a net profit to keep the bots around to do what they do and it would be a net loss to get rid of them.
New meta, create a bot army to report the bots.
I really hope someone will ask about this on blizzcon, why they are not doing anything about bots whatsoever.
They can't do much without chaning the game engine entirely.
@@ForOne814 Then how come private servers i played on like 12-14 years ago had it so you would get instant dc after flying just a little above the ground? first dc then ban if repeated.
@@VegardLa private servers don't care if they wrongly ban people. And it's much more often that you get bugs that cause you to fly than flyhackers. Also it's literally fixed on retail.
@@ForOne814 those dc/ban was automated when detecting stuff like that. But bugs that cause you to fly? I don't think I have ever came across something like that. Ok so its fixed on retail? but they can't do the same on classic era, or wotlk classic? seems odd.. I mean sure they send out these ban waves every 4-6 months that have zero effect
@@VegardLa in order to determine that you're flying, the sever checks for your coordinates and evaluates them. If there are irregularites, it dcs you. Like, for example, when you fall under the map in open world, you get into a dc loop.
It's a 20 year old game full of spaghetti code. Bugs are the norm. I dunno why it's possible to easily fly in classic but not on retail, but my guess is because some abilities rely on some part of the code that causes the ability to fly.
Ban waves happen every other day, actually. It's only the big ban waves that happen every couple of months. There are ways to ensure that bots get banned quickly. Botters actually get rid of competition by mass reporting their accounts in a certain way. Though, it's on retail, I dunno about classic, I don't bot there. It's just way less profitable than on retail.
Excellent Thumbnail btw
Hey what AI voice did you use to narrate the video? It almost sounds like a real person. Good work.
i always wondered how they got through plague lands since the mobs fear
Gold on most Classic servers is like 1,000 gold for $6. That's 10,000 gold for $60. Even if Blizzard does something about the bots, the damage has already been done.
in retail the moment you are detected to fly hak you get anti booted, why is that not a thing in classic?
what are they farming in strat?
Tonnes of bots in HC already. All you have to do is the correct /WHO and look at the various classes in bulk in particular dungeons.
Yes monthly payments for this "service"....
Every big company has the same issue, and they do nothing. Riot games has a problem with bots for 6 years, people are buying accounts that have been leveled by bots and it plagued the game to the point where there is 40% of the accounts playing ranked being bot leveled. They do nothing and people quit playing.
Blizzard makes more money off the botting problem than they would by fixing it. In a world where 0.0000001% of a profit margin matters blizzard will only do piecemeal, 'flashy' shows of mass bans once every 6 months, but then the botters and sellers are back 2 days later. It's a capitalism problem. People demand to buy gold instead of farm it, so the botters supply it and make money, probably paying people at blizzard in as part of the deal.
im the flying mage in the start of the video ,im glad im in ur video man
because they added in flying in tbc you absolutely idiotic third worlder. thanks for ruining the game experience. you are why we need to ban other countries from our servers.
Wow that’s unacceptable. Come on, Blizzard! Get it together!
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On my private server last week every day bots got baned, and they wonder why i dont wanna play retail.