Joseph Marcell On Janet Hubert's FIRING From Fresh Prince & How It Could’ve All Been AVOIDED?!
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- Joseph Marcell, legendary actor from the Fresh Prince Of Bel Air speaks candidly about Janet Hubert's exit from the show & how it all went down. Joseph Marcell played the roll of Jeffery Butler on the show the entire time it was on air. He also shared a deep relationship with Janet! You don't want to miss this one!
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I don't know who's right or wrong but I do know that she was the best aunt Viv. No disrespect to Daphne Reid.
FACTS! it took me so long to adjust to Daphne Reid 🤣.
I wasn't feeling daphne reid as the new aunt viv
U r so righ.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
It's a shame too that Janet Hubert (original aunt Viv) never really did anything else. I could be wrong but I think Will Smith 'blackballed' her.
How about we talk about how well dude has aged. Looks exactly the same.
Yes
IKR
I miss his sarcasm on the show
@CreeWilly Not just in America, but black people period.
I was just thinking how good he looks... he ages very well.
Even in Africa we know she is still the best Aunt Viv....
Lol Yesss
Big up to you all on the mother continent.
With all due respect, we don't give a flying fk what y'all think in Africa 🤷🏾♂️
@@BSkill100 who is we?
BSkill100 STFU. Niggas suppose to make Africa a Super Power country and you bet not be black speaking that dumb shit
Who remembers the episode where aunt Viv decided to dance again she showed out then passed out in the hallway 🤣😂🤣😂
That was my favorite from her. She was the total package !
Listen!!! that👏 episode 👏was👏everything👏. I was like, let em know Aunt Viv, you👏 are👏 not👏 to 👏be 👏played 👏with👏 period👏.
@@msprettyyoungthing20 right, I still play that episode from time to time, she was the best!!!!💃🏾
@@blacgirl1980 Me too, she is one of my favorite tv moms.
Unforgettable
I love first Aunt Viv. I also hate how the internet reduced Daphne Reid to a meme. She does SO MUCH good work for black people, especially black students at HBCUs, along with her husband Tim Reid the Legend.
No disrespect to her but I mean she was technically the step mom of the Fresh Prince
My thing is it’s not her fault, you have to blame the writers for watering down the character. During the first Aunt Viv era they actually focused on developing the character, but after she left they stopped developing her character. I hate the whole vs thing because Mrs. Reid could only do what she’s given.
Interesting, thanks for that fun fact.
@@suntansuperman26 Daphne Reid had no charisma, she never came across as a "put your foot down" type like Janet Hubert did, Reid was just your typical tv mom
Persill 1892 Like I said she only could do what they wrote her as.
4:50 is where he ask the question your welcome 🤷🏾♂️
OMG, bless you!
Yes, thank you mucho!
🐐
Thanks :)
Thank you lol.
He’s trying so hard to choose his words wisely not offend anyone.
He's not allowed to speak on it. He said it's about will as it's based on benny's medina's actual life. Janet like esther rolle with Jimmy walker she didnt like will smith joking and playing around all the time and the show was benny's will was chosen and janet was let go.
I respect that about him.
Jazzie Jon Amos had that issue as well.
Jazzie It’s exactly the same she was a trained actress and he was an inexperienced actor that ended up being the star of the show.
Definitely
Geoffrey had the craziest punch lines of the show. One sentence, one hit. The writers must have loved this character. 😅🤣
toniodotcom he really was an underrated gem. The delivery of those “sentences” was always impeccably timed and delivered with complete irreverence.
@@deborahfrederick916 you perfectly put it! The timing and that irreverence, priceless... 😆
I like the butler on The Nanny much better.
My Guess would be inbreeding
One of my favorites is when Aunt Viv said ‘That man is on thin ice’ and Jeffrey said “I’ll alert the fish.” Had me rolling 😂😂
He’s such a classy gentleman and excellent actor. Respect!
Yes, much respect! Loved his character too... NO ONE COULD DO THAT CHARACTER LIKE HIM!!
I agree. Kind hearted gentleman
I agree
I agree ☝🏽 loved it when he said “I quit! I quit! “
love from Haiti 🇭🇹 best way to learn English ever! Thanks 🙏🏾
He kept real without saying too much.
He tied himself in a knot trying to not offend anyone 😂😂
RIGHT! I was wondering who was going to say this!
Lmao he just did it as I read this comment.
Lol yep
@@misslauren6798 that mean he's mature and have a pure heart, something that too many people lack, it's a rare jem‼️✌🏾
That used to be me but you sometimes just have to say what’s really going on with no tip toeing. He’s a nice man so I can understand though, SN: Alfonso was the total opposite 😂😂😂
JEFFREY WAS STUTTERING HIS ASS OFF TRYING NOT TO GIVE US THE TEA
Geoffrey
He's watching his words.
😂😂😂😂 facts
😂😂 Factssss
Smart.
Joseph Marcell broke down the Janet Hubert situation in the most respectful and tactful way possible. She made a MOVE and they said "okay we'll have to MOVE on without you then". Mr. Marcell being from a theatre background originally,knows actors are not indespensible and that if you can't do your performance,an understudy is waiting in the wings.He said he TRIED to tell her himself "ask for more MONEY" because she was already the female lead. They just called her bluff.The show only ran for six years and before that she hadn't sustained a T.V. role for as long as she did during her Aunt Viv period.It's a gig to gig profession and not a profession where you'll be doing the same character the rest of your career.
I agree with you completely! She thought she was too important to be replaced but as he said only he and James Avery had the experience and acting background thanks to their work in theater to know that everyone is replaceable, I also thought she was theater trained as well so did she forget this? She was unquestionably a better actor than Will, but at the end of the day it was his show, I think that is what Marcell meant when he said success corrupts.
Anyway that's not what I really want to comment on, I want to comment on the latter part of your comment when you spoke about finding work in TV acting. She felt that she was blackballed but I remember reading a lot of different stories from older actors who said that what she experienced is actually very common. Obviously they were not talking about her. They were talking about the experience of leaving one hit show and then struggling to find work afterwards.
She took it personally but I bet you right now you can pick any tv show and you can almost guarantee that any of the background supporting cast have not found another show to work on regardless of their race. That is just how the industry is; the lead character always finds work after the show ends but not the supporting cast. She took it personal as if she was being singled out but in reality even if she would have stayed on the show till the end more than likely she still would have struggled to find work afterwards.
Without a doubt there is more drama on her side to this story. Will Smith doesn't even produce anything on TV until 10 years later.It's kind of hard to run a blackball on a single actor in the entirety of television/show business in that 10 year span.That would be like saying Will Smith is hotlined into every audition or casting decision in the TV industry to give his approval. Or, in another analogy, yeah Cicely Tyson may of had her struggles during her career,but nobody could BLACKBALL Cicely Tyson...that's a TALENT/MONEY move thing. It's a business and TV wouldn't have given a damn about Will Smith (especially after he moved over to film),if they could cashed in on Janet Huebert's "immense"talent(s). She burnt some other bridges somewhere,people do that all the time(Ego will eat you up.).Look how humbled Spike Lee looked when Tyler Perry named a whole damn sound stage after him on his studio.(I'm no fan of Madea series myself...but other people are and I get that), but even Spike had to recognize,dude had tremendous vision that eclipsed him and had to squash his beef.That's good business.
I always said that Will Smith did not have that kind of clout back then to black ball her. Now, most definitely.
But like it was said before, she forgot the show was Fresh Prince of Bel Air. Not Aunt Viv of Bel air.
The "FRIENDS" CAST stuck together and got what they wanted.
@@ezgoing4eva True and if this was a discussion about the 'Living Single' cast of which Friends was a direct rip off and it was a money issue then this would be a valid point in the way they were treated.But as Mr. Marcell,Will Smith and Alphonse Robiero have all stated Janet Huebert was off on a tangent all her OWN,trying to make demands for herself,she wasn't repping the WHOLE cast. She sacrificed herself, she said either or and they chose or.Can't make a checkers move,while playing chess.
I hate when ppl are put in the middle.
It's not fair.
@MissBttrsctch if he had to take any part in the situation. He was in the middle.
Thank you for your comment.
Exactly
I think it’s just more of the he didn’t want to offend Janet. Because he basically ruins most of the cast for ruining her life. 🥴
Right, it put him in the middle of an issue that had nothing to do with him.
Mess
I love how candid he was in this interview. So eloquently spoken. He has actually provided the most insight on the incident.
You fine
I’m good now that I’ve viewed this and was on the $$$$ with what happened BIG WILL Went straight to his HEAD! Because you had something that worked! She was an adult with talents & skill! He was young & made a lot of errors in judgment! With I’m sure folks with a key===$$$$ in his back! For 1 her MELANIN in her SKIN!!!!!!!! Let’s get straight to it! & She stood up for herself!
He was walking on eggs.
toniodotcom yeah but it was the most info from the events that I’ve ever heard.
@@shellaymills2903 true!
Yes, we can all agree that Janet was the best Aunt Viv. I believe that's the consensus on almost every video dealing with the show. But, Janet fucked herself over. Will, Karyn, and Tatyana doesn't acknowledge nor entertain any questions dealing with what happened. Alphonso called her a crazy bitch during a stand-up routine about 10 years ago. Joseph is the only one that answered the question in depth from his perspective. That was Will's show, and for some reason Janet couldn't handle it. She had a chance to remain on the show but she wouldn't take the deal, changed her mind but missed the deadline. I believe Joseph's word over anyone in that cast.
I think Alphonso has his own issues with black women and he is the only one that shows intense animosity towards Janet.
@@jaypaladin-havesmartswilll5508 exactly. You see who he's married to.
I believe joseph too. And he's been quiet all this time.
Edit: but I also do remember Janet saying that will and Alphonso also made a lot of offcolour jokes about dark women and moms. So I'm sure she had good reason to be offended.
Jay Paladin - have smarts will listen Alphonso has issues with black women? What other black women has he trashed. I didn’t see him go in on Tatiana Ali (Ashley). Maybe Janet really was horrible to work with. There’s a reason the show was considering firing her. It sounds like Janet felt less experienced actors (regardless of their position) were beneath her. Alphonso may have had reason to say what he said, even if using that word is unacceptable.
Facts! I really liked her but I can see her pride in her ranting videos. Pride is an evil spirit. I had to learn and humble myself. Just because one is older, more experienced, cultivated, educated etc does not mean the world or people owe us something. This are all manmade limiting concepts. The universe will choose and decide. You need to count your blessings and keep on growing. I had to learn the hard way and try to check myself.
😂😂😂 He didn't start stuttering until he was asked about Janet.
Up-until that question, he was fine.
**Side note: Jada and Will need to sit down, at that Red Table, and TALK to Janet Hubert!**
I would definitely watch that! I'd like for that beef to be squashed once and for all too.
😂🤣🤣😩
From your mouth to God's ears 🙏🏽
YES!!! Will, Jada and Janet at the Red Table.
No Red Table talk. Will Smith don't owe Janet Hubert shit. The show was called "FRESH PRINCE OF BEL-AIR". She fucked up a once in a life time situation. If anything, she needs to stop making internet videos, acknowledge she fucked up, & apologize to Will.
That was interesting. No one from the cast has ever addressed this before. And he was very mindful and respectful of Janet
That's not true, because the guy who played carlton did a interview and spoke about working with her. And how she ended up leaving the show. Look it up, it was a good interview.
@@daniellegeorge4043 OK, I will thanks
i am happy he said he liked Janet
Yeah they all have pretty much said she was hard to work with
I like the first lady that was aunt viv I loved her blackness it wasn't pushy or over strong it was pure black magic the way she did her part
I feel like the writers wrote differently for the second aunt Viv. They took that aspect out of the character and made her take a back seat
I dont like the fact that they replaced Janet with a light skinned woman... i almost feel that was the plan all along. I loved Janet, she fit that role well
@@Febreze99 I'm starting to think that combining dark and light isn't such a good idea - two different types of people.
Chris Wright I feel you on that. If they did that purposely and specifically, Shane on them. I’m just not so sure it was done purposely based on skin tone. If there isn’t colorism in choosing a cast, this is exactly what a black cast should look like. Dark skinned black people and light skinned black people. That’s what we should ask for. To be given opportunities and representation based on our merit and not our skin color. As diverse as this cast was in skin tone, I’m not so sure I can believe that they chose a light skin woman because she’s light skin. I will say this though, it’s possible that times were changing and the diversity the casting team wanted to show in the beginning was not the same sentiment they had later on. That’s possible. I doubt that though. Not enough evidence of it on this show, but I did see how family matters did the same thing, but that’s a different show and that happened later. I will say that it’s possible that it was colorism though. I just doubt it. Fresh Prince and Cosby show specifically represented all shades of black pretty much, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt here.
How can being black be pushy over the top? Do you like the way other actors who are not black are gentle and perfect?
Anyone else feel how soothing his voice is.
Yes 😃😃😃
A whole Geoffrey u kno. The only Geoffrey we acknowledge. Although he is well known for his role of Fresh Prince Bel Air he is a good actor and speaks very eloquently like a true OG..nuff respect due to #JosephMarcell.👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
✊🏾 Respect
@FaerieSensai 👊🏿
Yes he sounds like when you go to his house he's asks if you want crumpets and tea 😁
@Earl Glock iirc on another video, he does mostly theatre and directing plays after fresh prince.
He was really trying not to say anything bad about his friend. She was very important to the show because it was never the same (IMO).
It was real hard for him to talk about Janet. Once he started talking about her, the stuttering began!
T Martin Facts loool
He started stuttering because he don’t want to come after him. Attitude is key.
Next video: Janet H. Rips Geffory apart!!! Lol🤣
@T Martin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Janet was better... but here ego got in the way. The role diminished once she left.
If he role diminished once she left it had nothing to do with her 'ego' she was the best 'aunt Viv'!
J Christopher what?? Where you??
Yea the role definitely diminished, Aunt Viv just didn't feel as powerful or/and as important as she initially did.
Definitely.... it was some stuff the original aunt viv would have never let happen... remember the pam Grier episode when she played Janice the one the got away? And will ended up hitting it.... The original aunt viv wouldn’t have even let her come and visit..... like we knew she was a professor.... but after the change of actresses we never saw her in a working capacity again.... and I don’t wanna hear “well it was will’s show” and how her role was too dominant ... each character hard their special episode or episodes even Geoffrey.... but aunt viv not so much..... her role was trash after the change...
The role wasnt diminished but changed into a more sympathetic,nice,well mannered and softer aunt viv. They couldnt bring the same role back with a whole different actress
Joseph Marcell is such a gentleman. I realized during this interview what an exceptional actor he was.
So she wasn't fired. She was given a counter offer and passed and then changed her mind and it was too late. I've been lied to my whole life.
Dunno if you saw the red table talk but they offered her ten weeks of work and she couldn't work anywhere else while she had a young child to take care of.
@@jasminer4859 so
She was given a lower wage offer, which was really an attempt, to make her quit, and it worked.
Janet was yelling on people, on set.
She was becoming a moody problem.
Her not Respecting Will as an actor. Is what got her fired. She believed her resume should have given her more. And not accepting that it's WILL show. Not hers
yea will was fucking benny medina. he had the juice
Sean Tottenham she was actually Diagnosed of Cancer. I always wondered why Jada never invited her to the Red table since the “Red Table” is a place for “healing”
The show was literally called....fresh prince of bel air. Like it or not, it was wills show lol
She was the best Viv but by that time Will and Carlton's banter between each other was so good it don't matter who was the supporting cast
Will Smith was highly immature and unprofessional in his behavior...a major issue with the true professionals on the show. He had the same problem on the set of 'Made in America,' nearly getting fired for his tardiness and lax work ethics. Talk about ego, jeez.
“Success corrupts”, he’s right!
Killer Joe Maybe both
It ain't for everbody, like nipsey said ur body can't go...🤷🏾 no disrespect.. fr fr
@Killer Joe Clearly about Janet. She was the more "Esteemed" actress. She felt she was better than Will. So when the show started gaining traction, she clearly felt a way that this inexperienced actor/rapper, immature guy is the one that the show focused on. This is mirrored by multiple people in different ways whenever speaking about this situation.
@Killer Joe in the same way that Jeffrey speaks about having an acting background, going to acting school, etc. Janet also did the same. She also had experience in theater. That's what gave her an ego. You wouldn't have seen her in anything before, because like most of the cast, this was her first TV acting gig.
Success can corrupt anyone if he/she allows it to!
ITS NOT SHOW FRIENDS ITS SHOW BUSINESS!
Okaaay Jeffery aged well. Glad to see him doing well
I could just listen to this man speak at length on any subject. What a calming, dignified, warm voice he has.
Janet was like the actress from Gilligan's island who played Ginger, Tina Louise, she couldn't accept that the show didn't revolve around her. I am glad things were cleared up. Some people need to realize that what's for you is for you.
I read about that. I guess the show's title being "Gilligan's Island" wasn't a big enough clue as to who the show would revolve around.
You have to blame the writers alot for how the second Aunt Viv came across. When the cast change happened, they put Her in the background, took away her strong storylines, ect. They never gave her an opportunity to show what she could do.
Strongly agree
When speaking about Janet he developed an unexpected speech impediment lol
Yeah he does lol he chocked a little lol
I think he was trying not to step on anyone's toes.
LOL
He was trying to choose his words wisely so he didn't get on anyone's bad side and get dragged into unwanted drama.
why you have to be ableist? He is choosing his words wisely. Respect the man.
He answered it honestly immediately. He said Will was the star his name was first, as it should have been, and Janet had a hard time with that.
Man she about to pop back up and make a whole series of videos shit-talking the cast lol. I still love her though!
Facts lol
I thought the samething!😂She abt to chew Joseph up!
She can simply talk about Jada August and Will and that would be enough humor lol
Yup! 😂😂😂😂
BASICALLY! 🤣🤣🤣
Janet was on a TVOne show called Life After and she basically admitted that everything that was said was true. After watching that episode and hearing the things she said out of her own mouth, you would understand why she was replaced. They even offered her a recurring role until she got her ish together and she told them either I'm full time or nothing. She ended up with nothing. We all loved her as Aunt Viv but truth is truth.
@Charlene Warren that bitterness is so evident. It's sad. 25 years later and she's still wallowing in that hurt. If she would have gotten over it and released those people, she could have found something else. When her son attempted suicide, she even blamed Will for that. When is it gonna stop??
Most of us share this opinion and some dont, but Janet really was a key piece to the show. She fit the role of a Aunt stepping up to be a Mother. The 2nd aunt viv just seemed to laid back and not fully intact as a character
Reid could only go as far as the writers let her. They developed the first Aunt Viv but stopped after she left. Blame the writers not the actress.
@@suntansuperman26 I understand your point but as a pro I would think she would be able to add her own flavor to it. But then again that's what kind of got Janet fired
It seems like Daphne Reid didn't feel comfortable there. I always wonder why they hired her specifically. She didnt look like she was friends with the cast. And she wasnt great at the role. So I never understood why she was selected. I kinda felt sorry for her. They just threw her in there!! Its like they psychologically killed off the character.
Right 🤔🤔🤔
I stopped watching after a Janet left. Honestly, I didn’t find the replacement funny. I found her acting. . .stiff and no comedic timing. It made me cringe.
He’s trying so hard to not bad mouth anyone. I appreciate his care to wording.
So her ego got her fired. Instead of being happy and accepting the leading woman role she wanted the show to revolve more around her. Simply because she had more experience than Will in acting. It’s a marathon not a sprint.
Her criticisms may have been correct but she signed to the show knowing what it was. Will Smith was the star and focal point; if she had a problem with a show revolving around a non-actor her anger shouldve been directed at HERSELF for joining that show. She got her dumb a$$ fired and deservedly so. Spends the next years ranting about it, showing people what a jerk she is. Will spends the next years as a box office champion and two time Oscar nominee. WHO'S the real actor now, Janet?
@@lilithdemonia74 I liked Janet in that role better than Daphne but I agree with you. If she had a problem with a "non actor" being the focal point of the show, then she shouldn't have signed her contract to be in it in the first place.
Give some respect to Janet. She paved the way
@@lilithdemonia74 you have the proper screen name for your vile and ignorant opinion. Will Smith is successful yes, but he's a successful puppet to a Satanic DEMONIC industry. That's nothing impressive or to admire.
@@michaelangelotaylor8th exactly these are the same people who do anything for a bag then want to claim moral fiber.
Supporter of this man, enjoyed his role as he showed a butler with dignity. Love all the books in the background
In business “stay in your lane” is the written rule. Break that rule you most likely will be toast. Sometimes you just gotta come to work and be happy in the role you signed up for and I just don’t think she was happy so it was unfortunately time for her to go. It seems she still hasn’t found that place of “happy” and is still hurt over being let go. I hope for her sake she finds that happiness and place of peace. She is truly a talented actress
YES SHE IS, EVEN THO THAT HAPPEN GOD HAS SO MUCH FOR HER, SHES NOT THAT SHOW, YOU GOTTA FORGIVE, YOU HAVE TO NOT FOR THEM BUT FOR YOURSELF, SO THAT YOU CAN BE FREE.
I've wondered the same. Some people see bitterness as "keeping it real," but she really seems like she lacks joy. But maybe in other areas of her life she's happy. I hope so.
When you sign to be Iron-Man's sidekick and you suddenly want to be the hero... 😆
@@toniodotcom we talking Terrence Howard?
@@JayMuggah88 Didn't they say he wanted as much as or more than Robert Downey jr for the 2nd Iron Man movie?
I love the way Mr. Marcell chose his words carefully, giving nothing but positive views. Yes he was stuttering and who knows maybe he’s always had this. Maybe this is something he does when he’s a little nervous. They try to put celebrities against each other at times, and most of the time people fall for it. Mr. Marcell is a gentleman at it’s finest and the true meaning of lead by example.
Always choose your words wisely rather than emotionally.
I have more respect for him. He is classy and keeping it professional.
When she left the show wasn’t the same it’s only one ☝🏾 Aunt Viv the other lady tried but it wasn’t the same no disrespect to her she’s an amazing actor but Aunt Viv didn’t fit her
I felt hurt when she left I wanted to be Aunt Viv.
The show was still enjoyable after that. Sadly, Aunt Viv's/Janet's experience in the industry was too young for her to just wait her turn for her own success.
She was just a different type of Aunt Viv.
I tried but struggled to enjoy it after that. #1 Aunt Viv(Janet Hubert) embodied her character's background along with her success after marriage. She was so beautiful and charismatic. She also had the best chemistry with Uncle Phil. The next one didnt seem too at ease with even being baby Niki's mom and all we got was sweet with a pretty face with her. Maybe she just wasnt good for that role
The show got better..even Tom Jones showed up!!
Janet Hubert reminds me of my nephew. He lost a very good job 30 years ago by making a bad decision (initially quit then tried to go back) and he hasn't been the same since. He can't seem to move on and continues to blame the people at that job foe ruining his life. Janet is tbe same way. Bitterness just leaps out from the screen everytime I see her. It is said because she was so talented. Her hatred of Will has ruined her and meanwhile he is one of the biggest stars in Hollywood. I believe that it was her own ego which caused the problem. Even to this day she seems to have a very inflated opinion of herself while talking down on others. She should have used that opportunity to get her own show later but she couldn't get out of her own way.
I agree with you totally. I think it also must sting that she actually caused her own downfall. That is the part of this that she can't accept, so she blames it all on Will.
TV One did a life after special on Janet Hubert. With a pretty significant lack of self-awareness, she described in detail exactly why she was fired. She had a nasty attitude on set with most of the cast and crew. She also recalled an incident when she didn't like Will Smith's stand-up pre-show routine, so she confronted him about it on stage in front of a live audience.
The most ironic thing of all that she said during the special was that working on Fresh Prince was the easiest money she had ever made. She blew a good thing and had a pretty hard and brutal fall.
@Mitch G ah mean legit reason or not, she needs to move on. You know how many opportunities can pass us by for legit reasons.
@Mitch G I'll use the same dumb ass reasoning that others used against Alphonso Ribeiro, She doesn't like black men. She's married to a white man and dated white men for a lot of her career. See how dumb that sounds though?
Oh white boys beem skeeting that box up? Damn. Didnt know.
@Mitch G Maybe she does. That being said, from the way it sounds (not just from this interview), she fired herself from a show that wasn't hers.
A true gentleman. He really tried to be tactful.😊
Gracious & tactful answer.
That had to be difficult for all. She was good but attitude is everything.
Lol that not true tell that to Kanye. Kardashians etc people will put up with egos
I do remember Janet saying they couldn't take other roles while on the show. I'm sure she was getting other offers & that may have led to her inflated ego but having to decline bcuz of Will a new actor & his show I still have to understand her fustration. So many commenters are still going with the angry black woman narrative smh 🤦🏽♀️
@@despoinagoddess Not necessarily so, my sista. Hollywood is very messed up and scandalous.
@@despoinagoddess I understand what you're saying but I think what she meant was theater roles not Hollywood roles. That is why Marcell said "success corrupts" because she was enjoying the fame she got from being on TV even though she was probably acting prior to that for years on stage.
Let's be real. There's probably hundreds of great theater actors/actresses now that can outperform your biggest stars but at the end of the day people are going to flock towards that celebrity over that better but unknown actor/actress. She knew what she was doing when she was turning down those roles; she was chasing fame.
janet was just nominated for an emmy this year. She is doing just fine in life.
Im really glad to hear that, thanku😇
Daytime Emmy... yes there is a difference. However, yes, she is fine.
@@thejmc4074 lol an emmy is an emmy.
Thank u for this update. Glad to know she's doing well
What did she get an Emmy for just curious because I didn't know she was in anything but I would love love love to watch any material that she's in because I think she's a wonderful actress and honestly I wish they would have done whatever they had to to keep her as the first Aunt Viv cuz it just wasn't the same after she left.
The show wasn't the same after Janet Hubert left.
I stopped watching when she left. It was difficult to adjust.
it wasnt smh
Yea. It got better.
No it wasn't. I remember being a child and I stop watching it because it was no longer funny
Agreed. Daphne ruined the show. She's so awful, such a boring character. She ruined aunt Viv. Shameful. Never will get past it or change my opinion.
Wow he looks good! Black really doesn't crack. I like that he didnt throw Janet under the bus. James Avery/uncle phil also said he told Janet that it was will's show. Sounds like that was difficult for her to accept especially with her coming from such a strong theatrical background. Which sucks because she was so good in that role and a great representation for black women.
Canon to the left of them canon to the right of them lol
Awww the Original cast was wonderful! Janet was sooo strong that I could see Janet, and the siblings have their own show! Spin off..
"Jeffrey" seems to be impartial and trying to keep peace. This show was about THE Fresh Prince, which is Will Smith and he is the main character, the star. She says that they treated him a certain way and everyone was made to "worship" him, so to speak. She is from the theater where she do her job and get paid and thats it. She never lowered herself and wasn't going to be bowing down to " some kid". Will Smith is a rapper and new to acting. She felt like he was treated like royalty and everybody had to do it. She was not. She felt she wasnt getting paid or will agree to do that because its just a show. But it wasn't her show. She was not the Star, so she either succumb or leave. That's how Hollywood functions.
Basically her Ego got her fired
Wills ego got her fired
thehoneyeffect um it sounds more like her ego. You can always judge people by the friends they make along the way. This man no longer needs will so he has no cause to lie. Just accept it as everyone on the set is saying and stop trying to add your own perception as you weren’t there.
It happens; Terrence Howard could have been Brody for more than one film, his bank account would have been lit; but he wanted more money than the lead.
@@thehoneyeffect no ..her ego she didnt like the fact the show was centered around him but its literally called the fresh prince of bel air the focal point of the show is in the name she didnt like it yet her dunbass signed up for the show
@@kylelindsay6390 - Except for eldest son, Will's kids and Jada prove that he'll a bit off.
Hé looks a 100 percent healthy after all these years
"Success corrupts." Well said by Joseph Marcell.
She should have continued to work on Fresh Prince, developed contacts and used the show to propel her into a role more fitting to her liking after TFP ended. Ego is the devil sometime.
Boom! She definitely would have gotten some gigs after even during the show.
Ego want allow to do such things.
She blew it and she knew it. i believed her, i believed what she was saying, Hollywood does not care, anyone can be replaced. She fought for what she believed in concerning her career and working with this silly kid Will at the time. You just don't mess with the Industry, you will be replaced!
He tried to stay as respectful as he could. I love both Aunt VIVS but as he said The show was named The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air and Will Smith was the lead star.
Respect him for carefully choosing his words!
This trend is so weird:...Florida wasn't a fan of JJ. Harriet left the show because of Urkel and Aunt Viv didn't get along with Will.....I think she wanted to be another Claire Huxtable but Will was getting all the attention.
I know that she had a helleva body. She was super fine.
U know how fine woman can act i can see her having a big ego
John Smith exactly
@@JohnSmith-zd3ou , she probably was hard to work with, but Damn she was fine. OMG
Yes Lawddd
Butterface tho lmao
The first Aunt Viv taught me how to be a strong independent woman.
I get that all of you are new to acting but all of you were not born yesterday and should know how to treat someone in a professional and kind way. If Will was the star, doesn't mean he should treat other people with disrespect Will or belittle her. Everyone makes mistakes and he should own up to it.
And so should she in that case. Will didn't go on to make public videos trashing her, she did. You make your bed, you therefore lie in it. Pride comes before the fall and she indeed bust her ass as she should've. 👌🏾
Daphne Reid would have never pulled off the DANCE Episode!!! #AuntVivFingerSnap!
Well I would assume that the dance episode only came about because Janet could dance. They would not have written the episode if it were Daphne Reid.
@@ExposedRoot and that was one of the most iconic show of Fresh Prince. Period.
She still needed to go
sounds like she kinda played herself. I guess that what he was getting at when he spoke on success. good interview guys.
Thank you for this interview. Mr. Marcell gave us the professional aspect of what happened before the release of Ms. Janet Hubert and he provided an insight without demeaning Will Smith or Janet Hubert. I felt like we finally heard the real deal from a mature and wise person who was part of this very good ensemble.
This was excellent for so many reasons. We finally got the truth of what happened but without all of the petty bitterness of trying to destroy someone's character. It was easy to see that he was trying his hardest not to speak badly about her.
She'll ways be the only Aunt Viv to me. It was tragic when she left.
Yep
Same
Tragic? No! Absolutely not! Disappointing? Yes. But a tragic situation involves a death, a serious illness or a life-altering injury. A tragedy does not involve someone losing their job on a hit TV show because their ego and greed got in the way.
Get some perspective.
GOSH!!!! Its been 27 years since Janet Hubert left the show and this is the first time we have been given a clear explanation! Thank you Joseph Marcelle!!! You’re a Brit through and through and explained yourself and described the circumstances surrounding this issue very clearly.
I think everything finally makes sense. Whilst the first aunt ViV was clearly the better actress, It seems she saw herself as the star of the show.
Its just a shame that despite her theatre arts training that her career basically just nosed dived after the show.
I think she has regretted ever since, and has been’ blacklisted’ in Hollywood as a result.
The world of show biz is a murky messy world.
Well all is said and done, some 30 years later, whilst Will Smith had all the blockbuster movies money and fame, his personal life and marriage is in tatters and has been laid bare by him and his wife at his red table talk.
In this pandemic and beyond, most actors will be struggling including Will.
Wish the entire interview was broadcasted......
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The best interview I’ve seen in a long time. These guys let him talk the whole time and only asked great questions whenever he finished his thoughts . Brilliant!
I was not aware that Janet Hubert did 74 episodes as Aunt Viv, while Daphne Reid did 75 episodes as Aunt Viv! You would never know that by listening to most people saying that the show went downhill with Daphne in the roll! Also, Janet has to take some of the blame over how things turned out! I have never seen a video in which she says anything nice about any of the Fresh Prine cast members, nor have I seen a video in which any of the other cast members come to her defense!!
so she basically she refused the offer that was given to her then regretted it ? so why bash Will Smith all these years if it was her doing?
Growing up I thought he was faking his accent. I thought all “butlers” came from England so I thought he had to put that accent on.
Me too. There wasnt alot of foreigners in the united states but, they were coming. Now, every top entertainer/politician etc has a parent from another country or from another country themselves
You wasn’t the only
@@newgardner sadly it's a replacement to reject the real Americans black Americans especially.
same lol
NewGardner I grew up in the early 60s and there were a lot of foreigners in America especially in Newyork city where I live. I could tell that was his natural voice
So basically, she wanted to run things instead of accepting the fact that it was Will Smith's show? She was a great actress, but the fact that she hasn't worked in a memorable role since, speak volumes.
I loved the episode where Jefferey was on Vacay & taking up all the Hotel staff’s time , having wild Parties & Aunt Viv & Uncle Phil we’re miserable in the next Suite .
I didn't really hear him say much of nothing. But everyone has decided she had an ego. People on shows always want more for their character and fight for it. That's what they do. Why is it got to be about her ego. 2 days later she wanted to agree to it. They didn't accept that. That should have told ya'll that there was more to it. Especially the fact she was a great Aunt viv who by everyone's answer loved her in the role. Wouldn't that have been the best thing for the fans. Most shows have difficult actors/actresses.
Purple Diamond wow never thought about it this way but you’re right
Yes, I agree with you. When everyone else fight for more of their role and pay. They are rewarded and praised for standing up for themself. And I've noticed other people getting more than one chance for more grievous accusations. When it comes to women of color you have one shot and you must keep your head down and don't ask for what you are worth else you won't work again. People only started believing monique because oprah and the others got exposed for their wicked ways. And everyone ganged up on monique and people's logic was since everyone is saying the same thing it must be true. At the end of the day everyone is going to look out for their paycheck instead of defending their castmate. If the executives tell you to stick to the story of her being difficult, they are going to protect their money. Just like terry crews said he doesn't know what Gabrielle union is talking about, making her look like she isn't being truthful about her experience. And Janet Hubert has said the smiths have actively kept her out of work. She said some roles were not given because 'they' don't want to upset the smiths. I found that Jospeh still tried to remain neutral and he grazed over the disrespect(laughing and interrupting when people are speaking) that went on behind the scenes. You know how many colleagues bad talked Monique and people believed them until they were exposed. The vast majority of the public who told Monique that she needs to learn her place. And How many actors have been difficult/particular and still have work. How many actors had shady pasts and still have work. Yet the word 'difficult' still ruins black actresses.
@Texas Madam you seem to very opinionated. Nothing you have said changes the fact about what have been said about many actors attitude in the past. They weren't fired .You just decided to see it your way. That's your right. But don't act like you know best.
@Texas Madam cool!
Can you not hear? He said it was PAST THE DATE! A multi million dollar production gives you a certain date to reply by and you reply beyond the date means that's on you. That's why you have understudies and back ups for when things like this happens. The lady replied too late and the show went on. PERIOD!
“I quit! I quit! “ love from Haiti 🇭🇹 best way to learn English ever! Thanks 🙏🏾
I feel Janet should have had her own show after she was replaced.
Janet playing a black independent woman making it work in the United States (maybe as a high school teacher in the inner city).
Nahhhhh
People get the big head or get greedy feeling like they deserve more, which is understandable if you are contributing like she was, but they forget it's not they business or they show and they can be easily replaced by someone who is hungry to take what they took forgranted!!!
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Aunt Viv may have been replaced but she WASN'T replaceable. The show went down the hill when SHE left so apparently SHE was a big part of FPOBA & it's ratings.
@@batteriesnotincluded4715 , I agree..The proof is in the pudding..
@@batteriesnotincluded4715 they just explained that the show went on to do the same number of episodes as when Janet was on
Black Girl Magic you can’t really replace main characters that far into a beloved show. We wouldn’t have felt comfortable with any of those actors being replaced, by better actors or not because we got used to one person. That doesn’t mean they can treat their cast mates however they want, claim others don’t deserve their positions, or get as much money as they’re asking for. Being a beloved actor does not mean you won’t get let go from the show. Also, the show had some more good seasons. In my opinion, the second aunt Viv wasn’t as good as the first aunt Viv, but that’s not why the show “went down hill.” The writing SUCKED towards the end (minus some legendary episodes), and they didn’t write the same for the second Aunt Viv. They made her take a back seat. Plus, the writers just didn’t put in as much effort as they did in the beginning. That happens in all sitcoms. They were already planning on wrapping it up. Will let the cast know a year or two in advance that he would no longer be continuing, in order to give them all time to find other work. I think that’s when the writing got lazy because they knew it was ending. It’s not because the first Aunt Viv left. Will was the star.
Personally even young I didn't like that they replaced her with Viv Lite!
🤬Colorism
@Texas Madam Are you downplaying AmeriKKKa's racism?
Salutes Joseph Marcel and Viral Hip Hop News with this exclusive perspective. This was unexepected but highly welcome, good hearing his clear take on everything.
I first heard about the Janet Hubert drama about 15 years ago. In every interview I've seen, almost every cast member would skate around the question of why she left the show without giving a complete answer. This was the most complete answer to that question yet. Wayne Rogers, who played Trapper John in "M*A*S*H", went through something similar without the public drama and media attention. All reports say he left the show because he wasn't comfortable being Alan Alda's sidekick. When the show first started, they were pretty equal. As the show progressed, the fans and the studio gravitated toward Hawkeye being the lead character and Trapper John as a supporting role. Wayne's pride couldn't deal with it, so he left at the end of season 3. It sounds like Janet went through something similar, but was far more vocal about her displeasure once she left, and just got louder as the years progressed.
Hear him say 1990 makes it fell like that was 200 years ago
The producers & Will Smith underestimated how important Janet Hubert was to the show. She added a snap to the character of Aunt Viv that no one came close to achieving. When Hubert left, the show declined and became uninteresting. Just my opinion.
Facts
Tbh I disagree. Aunt Viv might have been an important character to the plot in a lot of cases and basically the female lead, the show was defined by its lead character Will and his cousin Carlton plus their relationships in and outside the family, plus G providing the comedic relief. It felt a little bit nicer to put more emphasis on Hilary and Ashley rather than Vivian too
@@enigma8301 Yet the show went into a tailspin once she left. Daphne Maxwell-Reid couldn't and didn't fit the role. In an interview with Ebony Will Smith not only admitted that firing Janet Hubert was a huge mistake, he also admitted the show never recovered once she left. Facts. Have a good day and goodbye 👋👋👋👋👋
Loretta McClure I agree yes, but that doesn’t mean that the show was bad with Daphne. It’s just that she didn’t get as much character development as the original Aunt Viv (but that doesn’t mean that she is a worse actor for example). Personally, I really liked her laidback personality. It provides a contrast to Uncle Phil’s like passive-aggressive tough love approach, rather than her being just a female uncle phil.
I like the fact that he points out how much bargaining power Will actually had at the negotiation table when in the past Will suggested the decision was out of his hands
All this time I thought Janet was fired and Will was responsible. She didn't renew her contract by the deadline.
She was the superior Aunt Viv!!!! 🗣🗣
Sometimes superior means nothing, the lesser came in did her job and ended with the cast on a high note....and probably got the raise the superior thought she deserved...sometimes we have to check our attitude, ego can destroy you
I love my Jeffery 💜💜💜 he was the realest character on the show and my fav by far. He was the definition of Shade before it even existed.. he’s still a smooth man💯. I enjoyed the show no matter the back story.
One of the best interviews I have ever heard. Amazing!!! Thank you for bringing this to the table.
Being humble when needed is very important in life
What a great interview!
He was on a West Indian comedy called The Desmond’s back in the day.
When I was a kid, they aired it on BET. The Desmonds owned a barbershop if I recall correctly.
Kimberly Allen yep I own the box set.
Oh my goodness! I used to watch that show when I spent the night over my friend's house back in the day. She was Jamaican and she had it on tape. I literally was trying to remember the name of it. Thanks.
blaque faerie no problem, Jeffery played the brother in law of the African character Matthew on the show.
Y'all should check out the sketch show 'The Real McCoy'
Personally, I am mostly Team Hubert. She was a classically trained actress who paid her dues. I don't think she was dumb enough to think the show was about her. But it was an ensemble show. I think she wanted to shine more when given the opportunity and apparently Will was not having it. He knew he was the star and would have scenes removed and he did not support the cast in getting a raise as an ensemble. Will was looking out for Will. He was also young too. This caused them to butt heads. She probably should have just accepted the cards she was dealt with. But I think she was too strong and real to go for that. She was not going to lay down and be walked upon. This is why they let her go and then painted her as difficult to the point she was blackballed. That's my opinion.
I agree, I definitely believe that she was blackballed because she decided to leave and the people behind the scenes painted her in a badlight for doing so.
Joseph Marcell was so positive and classy as he talked about his experience on the show and Janet Hubert. The headline of this video and the narrative has reduced Janet Huberts career as a black woman and placed her image to be of a jealous black woman who was outshined by a more talented black man and removed. Things were different back then culturally, that type of outward expression was taboo. She may have had a chip on her shoulder in reference to age. But what has continued to be perpetuated by the new generation and society is this Black man vs Black woman. This is getting bad.. This happens to people all the time in the business, so why is it that this instance makes her unsuccessful. I would have an attitude too if people continued to throw this in your face along with their false perspective about something they were not there for. A lot of people on the show we do not see anymore is that because of Will too? She has moved on...its public that hasn't
I’ve always loved Janet as Aunt Viv, but when I see her conduct herself in interviews, her spirit didn’t always sit well with me. She seemed to be harbouring animosity about what happened many years later. I wasn’t sure why she was still so angry, but now it makes sense. She’s angry with herself. I have no idea what changes she needed to make on the show, but if her ego and pride is STILL this strong about what happened, I can only imagine what it was like when she was getting Fresh Prince cheques and in the height of her career. The show is about WILL. Period. Sometimes we have to learn to embrace the blessings we have been given and stop the entitled attitude. She just cut off her nose to spite her face.
It wasn't his show, he was there like everyone else and he sucked
Barbie Rae : it’s called “The Fresh Prince of Bel Air” NOT “Fresh Aunt Viv”, so ya it’s HIS show as the title is based on HIS character.
She's been in way more things than Daphne after the show. It's out there for people to see. Its not secret. Maybe its HER. Will hasn't blackballed anyone.
Will did a good job transitioning to acting. Think of ALL the rappers in Television today. I was 13 when this show came out and Wil was called a sellout for becoming a actor. Mainly because his rap was clean, he went into Hollywood and this started in September 1990. Gangsta Rap starting to become a thing and among MANY hip hop fans he was slighted a lot i felt.. If you don't remember that ....please don't lie. Acting was not big among rappers at the time and to have no acting experience...Will was good and funny as hell. Very natural.
I can very well see her being jealous at this young kid coming in and getting alot of shine with her having more acting experience.
thank you. somebody here has COMMON SENSE!👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
It is her but unfortunately she doesn’t and will not hold herself accountable. Sometimes you just have to be true to yourself.
Exactly Will didn't blackballed her I believe it wasn't the first time her ego got in the way she probably blackballed herself with that attitude.
Jay Anthony it’s because she wasn’t on shows that blacks people watched so they assume she wasn’t acting
@@tomstorm7926
She was on The Jaime Foxx Show, The Bernie Macc Show, Tyler Perry House of Payne, All My Children, she's CURRENTLY on General Hospital and I KNOW my people watch the 'stories'. Black people have seen PLENTY of these shows. The movies she's been in too.
This woman complaining about Will and a show that was last on *24 years ago* and the she last worked for *27 YEARS* ago. Thats like me complaining that people didn't like me in middle school and high school.....those are the years this aired for me and I'm 43 now !
She has received CONSISTENT work since her departure from the Fresh Prince. Again....thatbinformation is out in the open for people to see. She's been in black,white,red,yellow and GREEN shows.
Stop this making excuses for her. Shes not hurting for work on ANY shows or TELEVISION.
Damn these brothas platform has transformed right before our eyes. This is cool to see their bussiness grow the way it's growing.
“Comparison is a thief to the joys of life.”
I despise the Aunt Viv comparisons!