Medieval Iron Production in Holland Thijs van de Manakker - smelting ore
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Nature, History & Education:
Dutch Iron production in the Middle Ages
After 2 years this docu film is finished, I made an
English version, where Internationally people could be interested
It was a great pleasure to work with Thijs van de Manakker and his crew - www.thijsvandemanakker.com/
Expert in Iron and blacksmith
Thanks to all others mentioned
Filmed with GH2 sedna V5 & Gh3
Lenses Pana 12-35mm and Canon FD 55mm 1.2 & 28mm 2.8 manual
Docu film by Jan den Ouden Amersfoort © 2014 ARR
Music:
Krebbel
Kevin MacLeod
NBE (Nieuw Bach Ensemble)
Locatios:
Bergherbos Montferland
Middeleeuws Erf (Medieval Heritage) Amersfoort
Netherlands
Thanks for watching. 
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How the hell were people able to figure this stuff out. Like who thought to dig in the ground, find some rocks, make a oven, put the rocks in there, get a chunk of metal, bang on it and reheat it a hundred times until it could then be reheated again and formed into some useful object. Humans are so incredibly smart. This is just awesome.
Justin Guglielmino I was wondering the same thing so I looked it up and it brought me here I saw your comment
Here in Brazil we have dish(maniçoba) that you need to cook for 1 week because some ingredients are toxic/poison and can kill you. I ask myself the same thing or "how many people died to someone discover this recipe?" lmao.
They made a fire on a stone which happened to be iron ore, after few days of continuous fire as it provides heat during winter and cooks food, they saw the slag, then curiosity took over
Right, like how did we get first tools to manipulate molten iron?
I think kids figured it out originally. Cleaning out ashes from a bon fire subjected to wind near a cave entrance, maybe found these little ingots. They are hard. How hard the kids wonder, and challenged, they start hitting it with various sized stones of different sizes, and they learn it can be shaped, etc. 'What are you kids messing with there?' 'Look Pa, a hard but shapeable stone!' 'hmmm', etc. Casting was probably first origin of tool to get tools to manipulate iron.
Could be a lot of trials and errors..
seriously, I don't care what medium, era, age, who or what it is. There's just something magical about craftsmen deep into their work that draws you in to keep watching.
It's like the crew went back in time with invisible suits and equipment to record this
Wait you mean they didn't
These are largely lost skills in modern times. Beyond the dedicated few who have re-learned how to do these things, it is wonderful that you have documented these heritage crafts in a video record. Well done and thank you for posting this.
Thank you for making an English version.
you're welcome Drogo regards
Drogo Rabenwald You're welcome Drogo
+cultuuramersfoort I would love to visit these people and such a place, any directions my friend
Drogo Rabenwald o
What an absolutely beautiful video. Thank you all so much for your passion for age old crafts and trade skills and taking the time to share this wonderful knowledge with us.
+Daroff Thanks for Your kind compliment!
I like how genuine this is . most other videos i've seen look like re-enactments
I think this is one of the most beautiful videos on RUclips. It kept me interested for the whole time and I loved the music and how the only commentary was about very important parts (like taking out the slug). Also, I really wanted to see a video with very basic way of making Iron and the medieval theme added much to the video. Thanks!
+Arkkimonni
Slag, not slug.
SpiritBear12 Thanks for correcting. I'm not sure why I misspelled it.
Arkkimonni
It happens. Maybe you misheard the word.
+Arkkimonni Yes definitely a real authentic awesome video, wish I could find more! Maybe they could make videos on leather production, ext.
Arkkimonni yes
This is one of the most fascinating and well made documentaries I have ever seen . Congratulations and many thanks for your contribution .
Lefty Tracking Thank You! It was a great pleasure to make this documentary and to work with the crew
Lefty Tracking
We all thank Jan den Ouden for his exellent camera work .
What a lovely video.
I used to live in Geleen, Holland back in 1971.
Beautiful country.
this video is great, compared to the old ones they have online, you can see how much they improved on their working techniques over the years. really nice.
Excellent production! This Documentary is better than ones put out on BBC, Discovery Channel and History Channel, BIG THUMBS UP you got yourself a subscriber!
Awesome documentary, great job and thanks for sharing it!
Thank you Ovidiu for your nice comment! Kind regards
Hammering so close to the bloom is what cracked it....and around 19:00, a little stight of hand goes on, the bloom becomes a slice of 5mm mild steel.
Prachtig werk Thijs. Je hebt ooit de borst van mijn lieve moeder Lucia gemaakt. Het prijkt nu op het Viking-schild van de partner van mijn zus en wordt nog altijd met zoveel liefde en eer gedragen. DANK !
Lucia voor eeuwig in mijn hart . . .
Really informative! All that energy that is required to just get 1 kg of iron out of the ore is impressive!
Much enjoyed! Thank you for the English version!
Geweldig Jan, 100k !!
Thank U for doing a great job!
Awesome research, and absolutely brilliant reenactment, of this proces.
German:
Sehr schön, eine tolle Doku die die Abläufe kurz und bündig zeigt! TOP *****
Schönen Dank!
best blacksmithing videos ever on youtube
what a beautiful life
That was great! Excellent way to show how important iron was. When I heard the wolves, it made me realize that iron made the fighting a better chance.
Well, You clearly are a good listener. Thank You & kind regards
when I heard the wolves, it made me thing about those tall mountains they have in Holland.
I love historical documentaries in which there is reinactment. Thanks so much for a great upload.
I have subscribed to your channel to see more. God bless you with a great year ahead.
Thank you Linda for your sweet words.
Excellent video! Very informative and very well produced!
i love this film! what a great piece of work and culture. thank you
Thank you 17leprichaun for your nice comment
molten, hot iron puts out non-health-improving radiation. Worked in steel mill, so we had orders to be covered entirely, not to expose skin if possible.
that radiation is probably mostly infrared radiation and that cooks you. there is also a tiny bit of uv and other visible waves of light, but mostly infrared i believe.
Outstanding ! I would love to see more videos like this one. Thank you
Thank you very much for doing in English as well. This is a wonderful documentary. :)
Lovely production - thanks
+Harry Rogers Thank you Harry.
very interesting and well done. I loved the cadence you set and how you focused sufficiently to really explain what was happening.
thank you!
Thank you Vic for your nice compliment!
Very nicely done. I feel as though this was filmed in the middle ages, it all seemed so accurately produced. Truelly enjoyed watching such high quality work. I learner a lot.
For some reason I found this incredibly relaxing.
Amazing! Ty for filming this and sharing
Very nice reenactment. Shows how much knowledge and effort goes into simple things.
This is still one of the most interesting videos ever made .
these dudes have been at it together for ages nice
This was a great video, very informative and wonderful to watch! Thanks!
That is a time and place that I would love to live in. Awesome video clip.
What a great effort. Well worth the time.
+Wall42007 Thank You!
Prachtige video! Bedankt voor het plaatsen.
Awesome detailed work, It seems to be the guy time traveled back to medieval age with an HD camera and captured it..
KIRRAK Brew interesting modern times too - GH2 hacked (Personal View) and GH3 .The eye loves detail. Thanks for your nice comment!
The people of the Middle Ages were every bit as intelligent as people of today, perhaps even more so.
+John Ratko Or not... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_scientific_discoveries
Rusty Shacklford Knowledge and intelligence are two very different things. The human brain, and it's ability to process, has not changed appreciably from long before the period commonly referred to as the Middle Ages. Scientific Method arose as the result of accumulated knowledge, not as the result of greater intelligence.
intelligence
noun in·tel·li·gence \in-ˈte-lə-jəns\
: the ability to learn or understand things or to deal with new or difficult situations
John Ratko And how did these scientific discoveries get here?
Rusty Shacklford As I mentioned in my reply "accumulated knowledge." Francis Bacon gave us the set of rules known as "Scientific" Method." It was Scientific Method coupled with the spread of written, and eventually printed, language that allowed ideas and knowledge to more easily stored and disseminated that resulted in radically accelerated advancements across many technical fields. .
+John Ratko "Francis Bacon gave us the set of rules known as "Scientific" Method."" sorry, that's not true. The scientific method was brought to us by Galileo Galilei. Bacon, together with others, refined it.
Great. Well produced video. Very informative.
Thank you, that was very interesting and relaxing to watch. 👍🏻
When you see the work that went into making this iron, you can understand how a simple knife for even an axe would be some of the most valuable things you would have, not to mention the cost of s single sword, wow!
Really amazing doc, yes there is a bit too much jump cutting for my liking, but I still enjoyed this video.
They make life in the middle ages look so awesome. People working outside with their hands, but only in good weather, and coming home to a nice meal of bacon.
Also, with all of that work that piece of iron must have been really expensive, but it should be worth the cost as the head of a plow. Used for very important work.
+Snabel Ø Duh, but now we got some other diseases that can mutate and basically do the same thing.
Maleficus they have mutated since the dawn of time tho
Snabel Ø I know? Just saying something similar could happen any time
In times of peace, people in medieval times routinely lived to well in their 60s... most people drank beer, because it was considered safer to drink than water, and the cruel system tended to depend on where you were at the time
Locahaskatexu Average people hardly had a chance to live longer than in their 30ies. Even up in 1800 average lifespan was 35-40 years.
There wasn't much romantic for ordinary people those days..
Try yourself live a life on the level they had to endure
Thank you for sharing this. Amazing.
I felt Like I was there. Some very skilled people in this video. I loved how few words were needed to get the message across.
Wow, this was beautiful. I can appreciate it very much as a blacksmith :)
I had to come back for another look . Excellent job well done and may all of you be blessed in the coming New Year . - Lefty Cat ... New Mexico USA .
Have a blessed New Year, Master Tracker
Great video! Thanks for showing!
With all that effort and resources going into such a small amount of iron, iron most had been worth a lot in trading at the time. Having a few bars of iron meant you were rich.
Yes and no. Iron can be found a lot easier than tin, which is required to make bronze. Tin is only found in specific geographic regions and is fairly rare. You pass iron boulders on your way to work.
Anyone with the right know how, can make an iron plowshare or some farming implements, in 3 days, with local materials. Is impossible to do the same with bronze, there are high chances you have no copper nor tin nearby.
Not really.
Making a hundred pounds of iron was a day's labor.
Making a hundred pounds of carrots was a day's labor.(just over a season of growing/weeding/tending/planting/watering)
Carrots cost about 50 cents a pound today and so does iron. The only real difference with their economy and today was everyone was poor.(instead of everyone being rich)
That's why only rich knights had a full set of armor, leather was the typical gear.
@@kkknotcool sure, nowadays we all rich.
Bog iron and metiorites were the go back then.
Your guild rules ;) I love the care that was put on authentic. Good job
Thank you for the great and informative video!
Best video ever. Pitty they dont show it in classrooms. Its one of the biggest milestones in human history and a great deal of physics and chemistry involved in the process. It could explain so many thing with just a small video or yearly presantation demonstration
I'm a man who struggles to get out of his house to go buy some food and still this documentary made me want to go back in time and live this way lol
Awesome to see how these people worked and lived!
Absolutely fascinating!
This was fantastic...thank you.
Welcome & thanks Richard
Moving and thought-provoking at the same instant. Thank you for a glimpse of what may well have been man's earlier tentative steps toward machinery.
Mike
Love this vid! thanks, i always wondered how they did that back in medieval times.
Heel mooi gemaakt! Chapeau!
I respect how nonchalant the narrator is.
This is how future generations will view our current technology. It literally took a large effort to produce a small plowshare tip.
it was amazing that I found this since I decided to start black smith studies / I also saw African smelting made in 2011 on the same night
Très, très intéressant. Mes félicitations.....
Wow... i enjoyed watching this a lot.
After seeing how much work went into making a plow share, can you imagine how much work it took to make the anvil ?
Ojala pudiera yo vivir como vosotros... Felicidades por el video, y por la buena vida que llevais. Saludos desde España
Mooie en educatieve video. klasse!
In The Netherlands they stil wear these cloths. We are so behind the technical thing the wold haves lol ;)
Dutch: Zo gaaf om die tijd te beleven. Alles zo puur en respect te hebben voor de natuur. Hopelijk dit jaar weer te mogen beleven
Thankyou for such a Brilliant Piece of work on showing Living history, People don't realise just what is involved ion Living off he land at grassroots level, Just the amount of Industry involved it making iron , is amazing, When you break it down to what is involved it that one industry , from Having shelter to live in, Clothes, Food, Tools, Knowledge of soil types, Charcoal production, Finding Clay, Leather for the bellows, Making Axes to fell the trees, Finding Flint to make a fire, Weaving, Spinning, Holding and collecting water and on and on the list goes , We we should be Learning more about our old skills before they are forgotten for ever Are we any betting living now or back then ? at least back then you honestly Earnt your obesity!
Thank you Joe for the compliment, it was nice to dive into the world of the Middle Ages. Certainly the handicraft was important for survival. The knowledge was impressive. A time that is often romanticized, but certainly should not be overlooked in terms of practical invention and experience, which they brought into being was important for the development of man. Regards
In what you just said it reminded me of that great TV Series Cadfael with Derrick Jacobi
www.imdb.com/title/tt0108717/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
When you live so close to the land your day is spent just surviving
Oh yes, great series & nice to watch them thank you for the link!
No Problems enjoy
those medievals where so nice to each other... fantastic video
LoL, nothing like real thing.. Villages at the time were forced to work together, or die young (really young), all due us being social animals. How ever this video lacks all the nasty stuff like noble coming to collect taxes, all the diseases etc.. average life expectancy back then was 30y, so go figure..
books. Read books.
Mooi gedaan :D. Heel fijn om te zien!
Dank je Steven xD
Thank you - I enjoyed that.
This is a crazy amount of energy used for such a tiny end product! How on earth did the Romans/Vikings/Anyone from history forge enough tools for an army? Were there bigger versions of these clay ovens?
see the thing is once the end product is made it can be reclaimed and re forged over and over. so the amount of metal accumulates over time
also there's a reason why a lot of ancient weapon is just a tipped spear and wooden shield
This (film)furnace ran only 1/3 of the cycle and gave a 3 kg bloom.
A full furnace run (12 hours) brings about 10 kg bloomery iron.
Thijs van de Manakker
Geweldig om je (jullie) weer aan het werk te zien! Hoeveel houtskool had een 'full furnace' eigenlijk nodig?
eric van der schoot Full furnace:120 kg charcoal and 100 kg ore = 10 kg iron.
Very good. Thoroughly enjoyed it. :)
I SAW A DOCUMENTARY OF AFRICANS MAKING A PLUME AND TOOLS IN ESSENTIALLY THE SAME WAY. THEY SAID IT WAS A 2000 YEAR OLD TECHNIQUE. THE VIKINGS IN NEWFOUNDLAND HAD A SIMILAR FURNACE BUILT INTO THE BANK OF A CREEK. IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THIS KNOWLEDGE WAS THROUGH THE WESTERN WORLD. OUR ANCESTORS WERE TALKING. HAVE FUN AND TAKE CARE CARE
Great video! Thanks a bunch for sharing.
+John Rigoni Welcome John thanks for watching!
Great work, well done
Great research video. I had no idea clay ovens were used for forging iron.
Production was so different those days. People could provide for themselves and others, and lived off their own labor. I believe we can always take wisdom from the past, even if it is this distant. Even in the times when mankind had to battle the ferocity and unrelenting power of nature, people were able to forge their own lives. I hope that spirit is not lost to the ages.
Great video . . . Thank you
really good video I loved the bloom it was awesome
When the world hits the reset button, you folks will come out much better than the rest of us.
Persona non grata In such a situation, I am sure the skills they know will come in very handy. This is clearly not their first time doing this that is for sure.
@@Bramble20322 More than likely, all surface metal will be highly radioactive when people come out of their holes after the big reset button has been pressed.
chrisdash83 Radioactivity won’t last long enough to be a long term consideration. Nukes are thousands of times less radioactively dispersive than Chernobyl and people live 300m away from its reactors and have done for 15 years now.
Not everything in movies and people’s expectations is accurate.
Wow
Just wow this video is amazing
Really really really wonderful video!!!!!!
nice bloom..and great video.
Beautiful beautiful beautiful
Wow so much work for a little tiny piece of Steel incredible worth Epic great people seems like a place I would want to be to learn that kind of stuff the cooking looks good too
Very satisfying thank you.
Thank you very illustrative.
Very very good job. I like. Good luck.
Thank-you! Dank u vell!
How did people smelt Iron in the beginning and what did they use to lift the white hot crucible from the fire before poring it into a mould?
omg! loved it!
this little village looks like heaven to me :)
Nice video... Thanks from Dubai...
Really good vid. Thanks!
Thank you for watching, kind regards
Can't wait 'till they get to first generation 'X86 CPU's.
i have spent the past few years working in an iron foundry and discovered i have a love for metalwork and built my own furnace and have even make my own casting molds. i am not as primitive with my setup as the ones depicted by these vids. but i am interested in collecting my own iron ore from the earth any tips out there? i just use scrap now and just want more knowledge of something i have desire to do.
jhendka p. How's the shop going and you should starting recording yourself making things.
Biggest tip i can give is to look for rust. Iron rich ground usually has lots of rust. I presume your living far away, but our land is so full of it, that its effecting drinking water. You can see rust wains in base rock and from there one could mine it. I dont know about quality of that iron ore, but i presume its workable enough.. mmh guess i should start mining it XD