4:00 It is sad that Frank Drake did not live to see a detection. He died 16 months after this video was made. Fingers crossed for Jill Tarter, Seth Shostak, and the rest of us!
Thank you for sharing this Seth Shostak talk. I do love the idea that it may not be life as we know life to be that we may stumble upon or which populates the universe. It may be synthetic life which, as like Seth mentions, does not worry about what a planet or the space that surrounds it is host to as its existence is not challenged by having to eat nor by needing the same things as biological entities need. 👽🐈
Always a pleasure to hear from Seth. Love his presentation style, wit and intelligence. Just wondering if that 100 billion earths in our galaxy number is right... should be 100 million maybe?
No, Shostak did mean 100 billion Earth-SIZED planets in the habitable zones of all stars in the galaxy - but that does not have to mean they are habitable. 10:30 Looking at his numbers, he was estimating there to be 200-300 billion stars. I see estimates from 100-400 billion at different places on the internet. If you restrict the search to sunlike stars, there may be 20 billion of those, so maybe 5 billion Earth-sized planets. Some people add other restrictions, such as not near the crowded galactic center, and so on. I bet some estimate less than 100 million Earth-like planets.
Two years later, and 2050 for Strong AI turns out to have been wildly short-sighted. Now ChatGPT is not only writing novels, it's writing computer code. Kurzweil's singularity is already here, ahead of schedule.
ChatGPT is not strong AI. It can only write things. There are other impressive AI that can only play chess, only play Go, and there is a newer one that can only play Stratego (and beat human experts). There is a recent video from acollierastro about it. If you wanted ChatGPT to write that program you would have to detail exactly what type of program you wanted, then you would keep refining what else it needed until the program was as you expected.
@@EinsteinsHair "only write things"?? To "write things", it needs to understand what is being said/asked of it, and then respond in a coherent manner. It vacuumed up all the knowledge on the Internet -- it can pass law exams, doctor exams, physics exams, etc. It can put script writers out of work. It can program. This level of AI was only dreamed about, always 10 or 20 years away. And it's only going to get stronger, and be in the hands of more people. Already you can get something similar running on your desktop with pricey hardware, under $10,000. The future is now.
@@chrimony My understanding is ChatGPT is a fancy Autocomplete, next word prediction, which can do amazing things. You should look into things it gets wrong, or just makes up. For example, the LegalEagle channel has a video about a lawyer giving a court a legal paper generated by ChatGPT. The judge was not amused because the real legal cases cited had nothing to do with the present case, and the other cases cited were just made up. Even if ChatGPT had been a search engine as the employee thought, it still should have been checked because laws later get amended or repealed. Sometimes a later section of a specific law will list exceptions. So it was the employee's fault for not reading the cases, and the lawyer's fault for not checking his work, at all.
"They are right here with us but we can't see them" Much like how South American natives couldn't see the Spanish ships at first when they arrived for the first time. They are beyond our brain's ability to perceive them.
It would seem to me that the hydrogen frequency would be the least likely to be used by other civilizations. Instead, I believe that they would use the powerful frequency. at the highest frequency.
Stop filtering out 'Cosmic Background Radiation' which partly contains intelligent transmissions from billions of civilizations which to us sounds like noise. Try listening to 2 radio stations at the same time, then double the number, then double the number again and again... sounds like static, right! GET REAL Seth!
If Seth instead of Microwave RF from remote places in our Galaxy would have looked at optical, infrared and radar in Earths vicinity, he probably would have more exciting data to share with humanity. I am afraid that the Champaign bottle they had to celebrate “alien intelligence detection” is going to taste like vinegar in just a few years.
I could stay hours listing Seth. Thank for sharing.
The best line ever,, "stupid' life seems to be far more prevalent than intelligent life...".
Of course because both those metrics are relative...
4:00 It is sad that Frank Drake did not live to see a detection. He died 16 months after this video was made. Fingers crossed for Jill Tarter, Seth Shostak, and the rest of us!
Always enjoy listening to Seth, thank you!
I agree
Thank you for sharing this Seth Shostak talk. I do love the idea that it may not be life as we know life to be that we may stumble upon or which populates the universe. It may be synthetic life which, as like Seth mentions, does not worry about what a planet or the space that surrounds it is host to as its existence is not challenged by having to eat nor by needing the same things as biological entities need. 👽🐈
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah mYeah Yeah oooooo
Seth, if that seti thing doesn’t work out, you could be a professional comedian. Very entertaining 😂
If an alien says " take me to your leasder". Take them to Seth instead. He will talk sense and be more interesting.
Ironically Tabbys star is dipping again with periodicty, that case is far from closed.
Maybe we cant contact aliens with technology,
But with our minds combine.
Always a pleasure to hear from Seth. Love his presentation style, wit and intelligence. Just wondering if that 100 billion earths in our galaxy number is right... should be 100 million maybe?
Given the unlikelihood there isn't a bit of difference between millions and billions.
No, Shostak did mean 100 billion Earth-SIZED planets in the habitable zones of all stars in the galaxy - but that does not have to mean they are habitable. 10:30 Looking at his numbers, he was estimating there to be 200-300 billion stars. I see estimates from 100-400 billion at different places on the internet. If you restrict the search to sunlike stars, there may be 20 billion of those, so maybe 5 billion Earth-sized planets. Some people add other restrictions, such as not near the crowded galactic center, and so on. I bet some estimate less than 100 million Earth-like planets.
Two years later, and 2050 for Strong AI turns out to have been wildly short-sighted. Now ChatGPT is not only writing novels, it's writing computer code. Kurzweil's singularity is already here, ahead of schedule.
ChatGPT is not strong AI. It can only write things. There are other impressive AI that can only play chess, only play Go, and there is a newer one that can only play Stratego (and beat human experts). There is a recent video from acollierastro about it. If you wanted ChatGPT to write that program you would have to detail exactly what type of program you wanted, then you would keep refining what else it needed until the program was as you expected.
@@EinsteinsHair "only write things"?? To "write things", it needs to understand what is being said/asked of it, and then respond in a coherent manner. It vacuumed up all the knowledge on the Internet -- it can pass law exams, doctor exams, physics exams, etc. It can put script writers out of work. It can program. This level of AI was only dreamed about, always 10 or 20 years away. And it's only going to get stronger, and be in the hands of more people. Already you can get something similar running on your desktop with pricey hardware, under $10,000. The future is now.
@@chrimony My understanding is ChatGPT is a fancy Autocomplete, next word prediction, which can do amazing things. You should look into things it gets wrong, or just makes up. For example, the LegalEagle channel has a video about a lawyer giving a court a legal paper generated by ChatGPT. The judge was not amused because the real legal cases cited had nothing to do with the present case, and the other cases cited were just made up. Even if ChatGPT had been a search engine as the employee thought, it still should have been checked because laws later get amended or repealed. Sometimes a later section of a specific law will list exceptions. So it was the employee's fault for not reading the cases, and the lawyer's fault for not checking his work, at all.
whole of universe is intelligence. otherwise why would planets and stars stick to own orbits and path? every atom in universe has intelligence
I still trying to find intelligence on earth.
There endless possibilities even that we are alone in the universe.
I'm still trying to find intelligence in California.
"They are right here with us but we can't see them" Much like how South American natives couldn't see the Spanish ships at first when they arrived for the first time. They are beyond our brain's ability to perceive them.
Put the drugs down dude.
@@Theninjagecko even if it's drugs, drugs produce valid thoughts too you simpleton
It would seem to me that the hydrogen frequency would be the least likely to be used by other civilizations. Instead, I believe that they would use the powerful frequency. at the highest frequency.
Life is out there intelligent maybe
Poor old Seth, has been dismissing UFO reports for decades. Now Avi Loeb is primed to take humanity’s greatest prize from under his nose. Fantastic 😁
You’re a quack
Nothing in space is frendly ;D
The aliens have been communicating with earthly humans through crop circles but humans simply ignored it due to arrogance
Meanwhile as far as we know the Galaxy is ours to take
Stop filtering out 'Cosmic Background Radiation' which partly contains intelligent transmissions from billions of civilizations which to us sounds like noise. Try listening to 2 radio stations at the same time, then double the number, then double the number again and again... sounds like static, right! GET REAL Seth!
Poor Seth be out of a job if these UFO's turn out to be Alien lol
If Seth instead of Microwave RF from remote places in our Galaxy would have looked at optical, infrared and radar in Earths vicinity, he probably would have more exciting data to share with humanity. I am afraid that the Champaign bottle they had to celebrate “alien intelligence detection” is going to taste like vinegar in just a few years.
The obvious answer is that the aliens are here, they have been here a long time, and they are running the place. : - )
There are no aliens. None.
Stick around Ralph ….. the Galileo project will have a surprise for you. 👽
Well done. Thank you.