Best bike upgrade? Converting the Triban RC 520 to Tubeless with Hutchinson Sector 28 Tires
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- Named after the pavé and cobblestone sectors of the famed Paris Roubaix classic, the Sector tires have been a centerpiece of Hutchinson’s tubeless road tire selection. Optimized for challenging roads, Hutchinson offers them in both 700x28 and 700x32 size tubeless-ready variations that retail for $79.99. With a dual compound design and 127 tpi, the Sector tires are known for the smooth and supple ride quality over even the roughest roads. In this review, we’ll be specifically reviewing the Hutchinson Sector 28 tires on our Decathlon RC 520’s stock tubeless-ready wheels. The high grip and comfort of the Sector 28 tires make an excellent complement to the Triban RC 520 bike. Note the Triban Protect Light weigh a hefty 730g, which means the Sector 28 tires (586g) also will reduce the weight of the bike.
Despite being developed for more challenging roads such as pavé and cobblestones, the Sector 28s features a semi-slick tread design. The center of the tread is slick for low-resistance and faster riding conditions, while the shoulders of the tires have a textured design for extra grip when cornering. This results in a non-directional tire that offers an excellent compromise between comfort and grip. Despite the semi-slick tread design, Hutchinson even advertises the 700x32 variation of the Sector tire as a potential gravel tire thanks to the durable construction. The 127tpi construction also translates to a tire that soaks up road imperfections and is easy to install on a rim.
Tubeless tire installation can be something of a hit or miss depending on the combination of wheels and tires used. As installing tubeless tires requires a few additional steps than traditional clincher tires, there are more opportunities for things to go wrong. In our case, we installed the Sector 28 tires on the Decathlon Triban RC 520’s stock Triban tubeless-ready wheels. Our first challenge was removing the stock Triban Protect Light 700x28 tires, which appear to have been glued to the rim from the factory (we’ve seen complaints about this before). Once we had the stock tires off, and the rims prepped with rim tape, it was surprisingly easy to place the Sector 28 tires onto the rim...
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01:48 Tire Installation
05:53 On The Road
06:59 The Final Score
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It's a pity that you didn't show the actual process of adding the rim tape and the sealant to the wheel and the whole installation. I guess that's what most of the people are interested in here.
Apologies for that, will try to show more of the steps in future videos. I initially didn't do the rim tape, as I assumed the factory one was sufficient, but had to comeback and retape it as there were gaps and ended up doing it off camera. The procedure is pretty standard, and I recommend using a removable valve with some sort of injector to fill the sealant to avoid a mess.
Here in the UK (maybe elsewhere too), Decathlon have just launched a winter version of the RC520 complete with mudguards and Sector 32's. I took delivery of mine recently, have clocked up over 400 miles in the first 9 days (first ride was Christmas Day) and very happy with the bike. I will be switching to tubeless soon.
That's awesome, I didn't know they had a winter version. The bike is still hard to get in all sizes in the US.
How are you finding the Sector's? I found them to be seriously lacking grip in British winter conditions and I see from reviews of the Winter edition RC520 it's a common complaint.
@@rogerbodger We enjoyed riding the Hutchinson Sector tires on the Triban bike. We're in Northern California so the climate isn't nearly as harsh as UK winters so it's hard to make a direct comparison. In mostly dry mixed riding, the Sector tires are a huge upgrade on and off the road from the stock tires though.
Are the rims double walled? The Triban rc500 rims are single wall so wondering if the rc520 is double. Thank you!
Can please make more vídeos about the RC520. Best upgrades to do, etc... Tanks
Will do. Many of the products we review on the channel are put onto the Triban but may not have 'RC 520' in the title such as the bike saddles. So far we've only done the tires, saddle and bartape. The bike is currently at a local shop getting a Token oversized pulley and Shimano 105 crankset (looking forward to matching 105 drivetrain!) being put on it though so stay tuned for that review.
@@TheSweetCyclists that would be great for me too, thanks! I'm interested in the bike but I'm put off by the wheels and tyres. I've read that the wheels should be replaced too, what do you think? Are there any cheaper wheel options/ axles that might work? I'm a novice, i want a good bike but don't want to buy the wrong parts.
I bought some continental gp 5000 tyres and watching this video has reassured me that the tyres are removable
The GP5000s are great tires, we're still using some left over 4000S IIs on our other bike. Removing the Triban tires takes some patience and muscle though so plan ahead.
Great video. I just installed the sector 28 with tubeless setup. Still experimenting with the right psi. Based on your experience what’s the sweet spot for road and off-road riding in terms of psi
It's hard to say an exact number as it depends on your personal preference. I mostly do road cycling so 80-85psi has been working well for me. If you do more trail riding you'll probably want to reduce that pressure to get more traction though.
Hello Sweet C,
Good job doing this video!
Do you think it could be possible to test some extremer tire upgrades , perhaps some choices for rougher terrains? Perhaps s. th. like the Black Mambda in 38c to figure out if that can go or if not at least the 34c version - or anything around the 36mm wide range that is reasonable lightweight at least...
That would help so much!
See you
Thanks, glad you found it useful. Next tire swap we'll definitely consider something a bit beefer. Decathlon claims frame is 36c maximum, but it seems like some wider tires can still fit.
@@TheSweetCyclists Yeah thank you!
Right, the german site for example says 36c with fenders - the italian decathlon website claims 32c but in the question and answers section one Italian guy asks if 38c will fit and he is encouraged by the staff to choose such tires. Maybe by riding hard out of the saddle there can be problems in the chainstay area when going too beefy but many interesting tires start at 37c or 38c and who knows how wide they are effectively on those narrow rims...?
Looking forward to your testing!
@The Sweet Cyclists How's it going? Thanks for pointing out that the tires are glued on. I had read all of the reviews where people complained that they had trouble getting the tires off and they also said the bike mechanics had trouble getting the tires off at the shops. Because you showed the glued that explains a lot and why I spotted some glue residue on the side of my tire when I received my bike a few months ago. I guess I got something to look forward to when I go to put on new tires. LOL
I ordered my Triban RC 520 in late January and paid $80 for shipping to ship my bike from California to Florida after I got the 10% off for signing up for their newsletter which made the shipping free and gave me another $50 off of the Trivan RC 520. I mentioned to you before that the price jump up $100 the following month. It appears Decathlon has closed their only stores in the United States as of last March. We can still order from the U.S. Website but, I am guessing they have limited stock that they can ship.
I see you did this video almost 2 years and you've had some time to experience the tubeless tires. How did you like the tubeless tires? Are you still using tubeless tires on your Triban RC 520?
After watching GCNs videos when they run over some huge nails and pull the nails out and spin the tire and the sealant inside the tire sealed the tire, that it looked pretty cool. They did mention it made a mess and after so many month that the sealant had to be changed out and replaced.
Thanks! Hope you're enjoying your RC 520. It's sad that they weren't able to make the California brick-and-mortar stores workout, it was great to be able to pickup items in store. I assume Decathlon will maintain some US based warehouses to reduce shipping times and costs but the selection is still pretty limited as far as the bikes.
As far as the tubeless conversion, we've ended up going back to standard tube setup since the review. The tubeless worked well and was even able to seal up some small punctures with the sealant that would have otherwise left us with a flat. The main reason we switched back is because we do a lot of tire / wheel reviews so it's tedious to keep removing / replacing sealant. I'm personally not entirely sold on the tubeless / sealant combination for road biking as you still need to carry a backup tube - but it does make a lot of sense for gravel / mountain biking to avoid flats. I'd also highly recommend upgrading the wheelset to avoid the hassle of tire changes, we bought some $300 second hand Mavics which are a lot lighter and make tire install / removal a lot easier.
@@TheSweetCyclists thanks for getting back to me and for your thoughts about tubeless tires. You were lucky if you lived close by the store and could just go there to pick things up.
I haven't even tried to go tubeless but, from what you said that it makes more sense for gravel and mountain biking, I can see that.
Thanks also for suggesting the Mavic wheels. I may consider getting them for my Triban down the road.
I have Triban RC 500, I believe the rims is similar to yours. Im still new to bikes. Im still using the stock inner tubes, rims and tires. With the stock rims and inner tube, Do you think it's possible to replace the stock tire with Hutchinson Sector 700x32 tires directly?
Yes you can. Buying tires can be confusing, there are basically two values to look for: diameter (700 - this is standard 622mm diameter) and the width (32mm). Most bikes are 700c diameter, so you just want to get the appropriate tire width. According to Decathlon the RC 500 and RC 520 can go upto 700x36, so you can definitely get the Sector 700x32. It's a great upgrade, and you can run them even run them with tubes if you don't want to do the tubeless conversion.
Thanks for the review. Im looking to do this to my RC 520 but very new to bikes, could you recommend the correct tube tape to buy if there is one and also you mentioned the wrong valve, so I need to get some new ones? If you could point me in the right direction it would be appricated :)
My recommendation is to definitely apply rim tape on top of the factory tape to ensure it is air tight. Most of the major brand rim tape should work (Stans No Tube, Orange Seal... etc). You just need to get the right width (my tape is 18-20 I believe) and carefully apply it to avoid air bubbles.
@@TheSweetCyclists hi I am installing tubeless on those same rims, but it seems like its leaking at the valve - is there a specific valve type you are using? I have installed the joe's tubeless valves but I am not sure why its still leaking air from the valves.
@@samsonchua381 I had the same issue on first installation. The mistakes I made were: over tightening the valve (if you apply too much force the rubber grommet will flex and crack) and I was using the wrong grommet. You want to use a U shaped grommet to fit the deep rim groove. I used the Muc-Off valves, they are expensive but also have the rubber gasket on the locknut side which helps seal things.
Hello. Nice job, congrats ! What size of rim tape works best onto triban rim wheel geometry please? I can handle 19 and 21 mm as well. What do you recommend please? Thanks.
I believe we used Stan's NoTubes 19mm wide rim tape. The stock wheels are 622x17 but have a deep channel so you really have to pull the tape evenly and tightly for a good seal. It's definitely one of the tougher wheels to convert to tubeless though.
I buyed the Van Rysel EDR 105 today, because its lighter and more race frame. gets deliverd tommorow :D
Nice! I saw they had released the EDR bikes. Haven't had a chance to ride one yet, but it would interesting to see how it compares to the RC 520. You don't get disc brakes with the EDRs but they do seem to come with full 105 or Ultegra drive trains. Let us know how you like it after you've put some miles on it.
@@TheSweetCyclists sure!, i live in the Netherlands. all the roads are flat. So don't really need disc brakes. I'll let you know how the bike Rides.
@@TheSweetCyclists I rode it Yesterday and it's really nice, shifting is amazing alot better then microshift. It's Light, and the more Racing geometrie is awesome. Highly recommended
How did you get those tires to seal. I ve never ever had tires which were leaking so much air that I could not even build pressure with a booster on it. It feels like the tires are just 27.5 instead of 28 as the tires don't fit at all.
The standard Triban tires are very difficult to get to properly seal. You need to soap up the side walls and really work the sidewalls to get a good seal. It eventually worked for me, but after a flat I went back to a tubed setup.
There are so many problems using the proper seal of rim tape in respect with inner rim geometry as I wonder if is not way simple to seal each spoke hole with patches as this can be done perfectly?
Yes, the deep groove design of the stock wheels makes it difficult to get a good seal. Our main issue was the air valve though, you really have to use the proper rubber gasket to fit the 'U' shape of the rim.
Thanks for the video. I've just ordered a Triban bike so I really appreciate videos about this bike. Do you have any plan trying to fit bigger gravel tires? Cause lack of none decathlon info on tire clearance is so sad. If you can you try a few 37cs or even 38cs that would maybe fit on this frame. If you have them at your disposal.
If anyone has any experience with 650b and tire clearance on those wheels and info would be appreciated.
Not a problem! I'm sure you'll enjoy the bike as well. You aren't the first person to ask about the maximum tire clearance. Decathlon says 36c as maximum tire width, but others have mentioned going higher without an issue. We'll see if we can get some more aggressive tires and test out the tire clearance.
@@TheSweetCyclists Sweet, can't wait.
I am considering a tubeless upgrade too, but I am confused what rim tapes (mainly width of the tape) and valves to use, what worked for you in the end?
I ended up using the Muc-Off tubeless valves and tape. I don't recall the exact tape width, but the wheels are 622x17 so anything compatible with that width will work. The main advice I have is to use the right gasket on the valve, as that's the primary leak point. The Muc-off valves come with a rectangular gasket, but we removed that and put the 'cone' shaped one instead for a better seal (the rims have a deep channel).
Gorrila tape
I pretty much destroyed the beading on some Schwable tyres that were on my Triban 520 - quite frustrating to change them
There is something very frustrating about the stock wheelset design. I'd highly recommend buying some budget replacements to make tire changes a lot easier.
@@TheSweetCyclists new rims?
@@stewheart Yes. A pair of $300 used Mavic Ksyriums is what I swapped the stock Triban wheels for. They are lighter and far easier to swap tires with.
Hi, have just picked up one of these bikes. Does anyone know what the maximum tire width is that can be used on the stock rims? I know the frame can handle 36c are the stock rims able to handle the same width?
Thanks
Tire sizing is a bit confusing, but the stock wheels have an ETRTO dimension: 622 (inner diameter) x 17c (inner rim width). As far as tire size compability with the rim, it depends on who you ask but according to one reputable source (www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html#width) these wheels should accommodate 25-37 wide tires without an issue. That means you should easily be able to swap stock tires for some 36c tires without an issue - note that removing the stock tires takes some patience and maybe even a vice grip!
@@TheSweetCyclists Thanks for the reply. Im currently swapping out my summer groupset and tires and for winter I want to pop on wider tires for lower preasures and added grip. I Have a set of 36c tires on the way. I will let you know how it goes and clearance.
Thinking of going for a Triban RC 520 for my first road bike. What do you think?
Definitely, it's a great bike whether your new or an experienced cyclist. I'd recommend trying the other Triban/Van Rysel bikes in person if you're able to so you can feel and see the differences.
@@TheSweetCyclists There are a lot of bad reviews RE the triban wheels, is this something you can comment on?
Hi, great video! Would it be possible to fit 35 or 38 tires to the RC520, making it more of a gravel bike?
Good news, we've already answered that question in a separate video - ruclips.net/video/tzzKLBEReLA/видео.html. We were able to even fit 700x40 tires on the RC 520. The wider tires make it much more fun off the road. Decathlon sells a RC520 Gravel that is the same bike with different paint / handlebars and 700x36 tires for $200 more if you want a gravel bike out of the box.
@@TheSweetCyclists Thanks for the quick reply! Yes, I was considering that one but it's been sold out here for ages, so I'm just considering this version. The gravel version also has different handlebars. Is it that much different?
@@rehakproduction I haven't ridden the gravel version myself (almost all of Decathlon bikes are sold out at this point!), but it's a wider handle bar that flares out. A flared out handlebar gives you more control when you're off-road and a wider stance on the bike. Aside from the paint job, you can buy handlebar/ tires for less than the $200 price of the RC520 Gravel bike though if you want to upgrade the parts later.
If I didn’t want to go for a tubeless tyre, what tyre would you recommend me that would be a good upgrade and would fit without problem? Thank you
Definitely recommend upgrading from stock if you want to ride the Triban further distances. I'd obviously recommend the Sector 28 tires (you can run Tubeless Ready tires like it with tube setup), Continental 5000s or some of the newer Goodyear Eagle tires. Try to match the tire with what kind of riding you want to do - weekend rides vs. commuting as performance tires are usually less puncture resistant.
@@TheSweetCyclists Thanks a lot for the information I'll try one of these :)
@@xxyanskatexx contis 5000 will be horrendous to fit the first time.
what about weight? Are those decathlon tires are much heavier?
Great question, I forgot to include that in the video. The stock Triban Protect Light tires weigh a hefty 730g compared to the 586g the Sector 28 tires. There are even lighter 700x28 tires on the market, but the robustness of the Sector 28s make them a good match for the bike.
Hello, Im planning to buy a bike and was interested in this bike, only the Gravel version. Ive heard they are basically the same expect the Gravel has bigger wheels. Are there any negative things about this bike or is it a perfect choice ?
As far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong), the gravel version has: unique paint job, wider handlebars and different tires. It's a solid all around bike though, definitely recommend it. I would compare the gravel version price vs. this one at your local stores and get the one that fits you best.
@@TheSweetCyclists Okay, thanks for the reply. I'll check once I'm at the store then for which is worth buying
I'm about to change tires too, what size of tubless tape did u get for the conversion?
We used Stan's No Tubes tape in 21mm I believe. The internal width of the wheels are only 17mm, but there is a deep center channel (almost V shaped) so you need to be very careful when placing the rim tape to prevent leaks.
@@TheSweetCyclists Thank you very much!
Triban seems to be a very nice bike and has been considering buying one. I thought Triban RC-520 Gravel.
The Triban bikes are definitely a great value, it's hard to beat the Shimano 105 drivetrain for the price. Our Triban RC 520 has been great for gravel, commuting and longer road rides.
@@TheSweetCyclists since the bike is a bit heavy, I wonder what tips you have for upgrading to lose weight? if i upgrade the handlebar and the stem to carbonfibre and the rims to carbonfibre? how many KGs could i save on doing such an upgrade?
Mate what rib tape size did you use for it ? Thanks 😊
I don't recall the exact width I had used, but the wheels themselves are 17 mm wide internally so you'd need something slightly wider to fill the curvature. Something around 20mm would probably cover all the spoke holes.
Do you recommend getting tubeless 700x36 tyres straight away ?
It depends on what type of riding you do. The stock tires are stiff and very durable and good for commuting. If you want to do more trail riding then wider grippier tires would be recommended.
How on earth did you manage to get the stocks off the rim?
Don't remind me! It's very difficult to remove the stock tires the first time. As I show in the video, it seems like there is glue from the factory to hold the tires in place. I ended up using a clamp to twist the tires off the rim, once you get a small section off the rest comes off pretty quickly.
What Rims can i Upgrade on my Triban rc520? I only can find the ETRTO: 622x17c
Wheel sizing conventions can be confusing, but these are standard 700C wheels. You should be able to swap these out for any 700C disc brake wheelset without an issue as long as it isn't so wide that it won't clear the claimed 700x36 tire limit.
The Sweet Cyclists thanks for your answer :) yeah im kinda confused also with the disc brake centerlock thing. I dont even know if my triban has a centerlock discbrake
@@RawrpunzelHD in pretty sure triban have bolt discs
What's the performance in wet weather?
It's been great so far. The Sector 28 tires work well even on light gravel as well with their dual tread design. It's a big upgrade from the stock Triban tires even if you install them with a tube instead of tubeless.
Why the heck they did those inner groove so deep ? I think as the flanks of the rim are bit higher the overall diameter of the rim is bit larger aso. This should explain why a lot of users have problems with tire mounting. But...to compensate this they made the median groove little deeper so in case of tire changing just sit the tire into the groove. Then the tire will have enough room to be fitted on the rim...
Yea. It's incredibly frustrating to mount even normal tubed tires without the bead sliding inward. I ended up buying a Tire Setter (ruclips.net/video/sIfiFUSM7Ro/видео.html) which makes it easier to get the tire to mount properly.
Isn't it a bit too early to rate the tyre "A on durability"?
You're correct. It's estimated on a few hundred miles and months of use. We don't know how it will hold up after a few years of use but can update the article add a comment if our assessment changes over time.
there not glued on it that lip on the inside of the wheel that makes them a pain to use and change any tyre
As many have mentioned, installing tires is very frustrating on the stock wheelset. Since the review, I've swapped over to second-hand Mavic wheels which are lighter and far easier to install tires on.
you know the wheelset weight? its look heavy...
Stock tires along are 730g while the Hutchinson Sector 28 tires are only 586g so you can drop some weight with better tires. The front and rear wheels with brakes + cassette come out to 1.7kg (3.75 lb) / 2.3 kg (5.07 lb). They are built to be robust, so they are quite heavy. We've recently swapped the stock wheels for some second-hand Mavic Ksyrium and it really livens up the bike, it's more responsive and has dropped a few lbs as well.
79$ per tire is A-? you got to be joking. This is C at best. For 15$ you can get continental ultrasport tires. Which, currently i have ridden over 2000 miles, and wear indicator still shows plenty of meat to be ridden. Did not have any punctures. Easy to get up to speed and maintain, since the rolling resistance is good.
I agree it's expensive, but they are more on par with the Contential 5000 TL tires which have a listed retail price of $76.49 on ProBikeKit currently. As I mentioned in the video though, you rarely need to pay full retail on bike tires if you buy in advance (e.g. the 5000TL is available for $35.90 currently on PBK). I've always found it odd that bike tire retail prices can be as much as car tires though.
Which conti ultrasport you are using II or III ? I'm looking for something that's durable and I've read in many reviews that the Triban's original tire is easy to puncture. Thanks !
I don't understand, in the other video you said that Decathlon provide you the bike to makes a review, why you still have it?
Correct, but we kept bike to assess the long-term durability and use it to evaluate upgrades. You see the RC 520 show up in a number of our reviews, it's still one of our favorites.
@@TheSweetCyclists yeah, I'm very tempted to buy one. Quick question: did you weight the triban tires?
Great question, I forgot to include that in the video. I just weighed them and they come in at a hefty 730g for the pair (the Sector 28s come in at 586g).
@@TheSweetCyclists Im from the Netherlands, im looking to buy one too. Can you tell me how much the weight is from the front and rear wheel. cuz maybe im going for an wheel upgrade too
why did you skip the tire installation? the most interesting part and you skipped the main part...
Sorry about that! Definitely could have covered the install part in more depth. If we do another tubeless tire review, we'll record the steps in more detail.
...." They hum once you get over 25mph", umm so zero need for me to buy "Humming" blocking ear plugs, Happy days.
Funny you should bring that up! Since doing the review, I've realized the humming actually isn't the tires. I think it's the way the cabling is routed - the bike still hums with a different wheelset.
80 dollars for a bike tyre are you out of your mind!!!!!!!!!!!! I wont spend 80 dollars even for a car lol
As I mentioned in the video, if you shop around you can typically get tires well under retail on sale or online retailers.. We highly recommend you stock up on a few essentials like tires, chain, brake pads and tubes BEFORE you need them so you can buy them at a discount.