Plumbers Are Going To Hate Me For This
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2023
- Warning! Secret plumber info in this video. After failing to install the well water filtration system on our home I have totally redeemed myself by replacing the well bladder tank without proper supervision. And it totally works. It's well-tank replacement for dummies. If I can do it anybody can. It cost a small fortune to hire a plumber on the filter system so I saved some dough on the well tank install by doing it myself.
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Stop with the stupid voices.
it's his way of being goofy. If you don't like it, don't watch. It's that simple.
@@BootSequence agreed!
I like the silly voices. It makes an otherwise boring topic interesting, and occasionally funny
stop with the stupid comments
stop being bitter and let people have fun in peace.
Plumbing is always a three trip minimum adventure…
Truer words have never been spoken.
True
It doesn’t have to be. You make it that way.
You don’t need dope for brass to plastic either.
Living in the snow belt seeing all this stuff outside blows my mind 🙃
😄 Yes but do you lose 10 pounds of water weight when walking to your vehicle from the door like we do?
Exactly what I was thinking! House I grew up in the well had a cover with everything underground, and then the pressure tank etc… was all inside so it couldn’t freeze!
And all the water lines are barely under ground?! Must be nice not have to bury 3+ feet deep!
I'll take the snow, thank you very much!
Pvc?
Im a service plumber in rural Canada, I do a ton of this stuff, of course we gotta keep it all in a basement, cant be outside or it would freeze 11 months of the year. We use union style tank tees which allows us to tighten everything to the tank tee first, then attach to the tank with the union, so that way you don’t run into the problem you did with the pressure switch. Nice work though sir!
Thank you!
I always do admire hard working people, great job.
Your comment about how many trips you had to make and then purchasing an excessive amount of parts to compensate for not having to make a another trip hit me real deep. I too have fell victim to the "i can do it myself for cheaper" more than once.
I like to think of the extra parts as "stock" for later. ;) It's an amazing feeling when you gotta go back to the hardware store, but then realize you have exactly what you need in the back corner somewhere from 4 years ago, and it cost less back then!
I went with exactly the same 85 gallon tank 24 years ago. My aim at the time was water reserve.
All this time we never understood the less bladder wear & tare theory. Thanks, HAXMAN.
PS I grew up in Florida. The problem we faced, leaving pressure tank, pump, filters, outdoors was
FLOODING, almost yearly due to hurricane side swiping. Also, our fresh water was always warm
in summer and so cold in summer no water-heater lasted more then 2 years. (cracked glass innards) Tired of 'bording-up', we moved to Oregon. I traded horse hay for a working water-heater
32 years ago, still working to this day, despite servicing a teen-age girl, now long gone.
As a plumber this made me hurt to watch. But it worked out. So good job
I always enjoy your how-to videos... Keep the videos coming our way.
Thanks!
Love the instructions......I don't have a clue what you're doing, but this was just a fun video to watch. Go Riley!
What about taking the cover off the pressure switch?
That might have worked.
Thank you for not using music against us. Seriously dude...take a bow.
"The 2 inch fits." - "That's what she said."
Nicely done sir! I always say it's not a home project until I've made at least two trips to the hardware store. Don't forget to wrap your contact switch in screen material to keep the lizards out! The plumbing music was a nice touch :)
Agreed !
...usually 4 or 5 with me
Has anybody noticed Home Depot is now selling almost everything with free shipping and no minimum order? They will send you like a $2 PVC fitting in a day or two. Absolutely amazing! 10-ish orders per project.
But the nearest HD is 30 minutes away from me...
@@ryanroberts1104 I ordered a $1 part from HD. There is no way they made money on me after shipping it to me. And I got my veteran discount... insane.
Wow you are so rebellious and highly skilled. Can't believe you tightened that fitting all by yourself.
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Its so crazy to see all of this outside. I am a plumber working in a freezing climate and it seems foreign to me to have that outdoors.
Awesome video, I was just looking into our well setup and replacing the bladder tank. Keep on keepin' on!
It's a law. Every plumbing project requires a minimum of 3 trips to the store!!!
I love that little tractor. Man I could do so much with something like that
Time is money you did the time 👍 one word of advice from a plumber don’t wrap Teflon tape over the first two threads! They will cut the tape and send junk down stream & into whatever!
I replaced at least two of the smaller bladder tanks in the past. I use one like yours now.
Getting ready to do the same thing myself.
Our tank is an old old galvanized tank that never had a bladder to begin with, and so we are constantly filling it up with air. Really sucks, especially in the winter.
you could have used the 6" nipple if you spun the tank tee first and then spun it back after installing the pressure switch.
Definately a question mark but I like that you played it safe. Tell Bruce I said to "lighten up Francis".
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Awesome skills. You make everything look easy. Thank you for creating your content.
Thank you!
My husband sends me back and forth with a picture of what he wants.....it takes a skilled man at the hardware store to find the parts, if he's not working then it takes awhile....
😄 I need to start using that method.
Hey man look nothing wrong with DIY, I fully support people learning how to fix their own wells.
I really want them to know how to do it right and not buy the wrong cheap products.
The water worker tanks are not good and I have removed many before 2 years use due to failure.
The tank tee is cool and all but not needed and can be done with tee's inline for taps for less cost.
You should really try airing up the tank first and check for water left in the tank before you toss it.
Water can get behind the diaphragm and cause tank to be "Waterlogged" which is the leading cause of pump failure!
Of course making sure your check valve is good along with pressure switch and settings is also very important.
Never put a ball valve between your pump and psi switch as it absolutely useless and can cause problems.
Turing off the pump is all that's needed to stop water flow back to well during service.
Someone can turn that valve off while pump is running and the pump will be damaged or blown off drop pipe.
The only reason one would be there is due to having a flow well but even then a union is better to just disconnect it.
If your going to use glue from homedepot don't use the blue glue its very weak, instead get Fusion its way better!
You won't need primer at all and is one step so a DIY person won't mess it up.
Trust me a 25 year veteran well guy who loves the stuff for most my glue work and repairs.
When your timing your well's cycle time what matters is not how long it takes to turn on but how long to go off.
Your cycle time of the pump from on to off is what affects the life of your pump.
Final thoughts you did a good job just get you a Amtrol or AO smith tank when that one fails and lose the blue glue.
Take it Easy man!
Casey
When Clearwater speaks, I listen. You'[re awesome. Wish you were in my area when I needed a well but my guy was alot like you, just saltier, if ya know what I mean. With a last name of Dugger... how can you go wrong? By the way, his company name is also clearwater... ha ha
My wife scoffs at me for multiple trips to the hardware store. Fortunately, though, I am but a mile and a half from a Lowe's and Home Depot that are right across the street from each other. And I've been so often that I direct people to the aisle they need when there is no help walking nearby.
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Another job WELL done. 😉
Thanks!
You got me with the Title. Watched the entire video to count all the things a professional would not do. But you know what you got the job done safely and your back in business... congrats
So you don't hate me then? 😄 Thanks!
Absolutely love your channel dude. Keep it up!
I'm glad you addressed the no electrical shock, I was 100% expecting it lol
I failed
Oh... Don't sell yourself short.
Plumbers hate you for a whole list of other reasons.
I can only imagine.
😂😂@@HAXMAN
Nice man 😂 I had to recently have our bladder tank replaced. I’m no where near a handyman type like yourself, I had someone do it but I like knowing how it was done just in case I do get on you’re level one day! 🤙
Pro tip for you. When cutting pipe with ratchet cutters twist the pipe and it’ll cut much easier, also when gluing up pipe joints give them a twist also, it’ll spread your glue around inside the fitting. Nicely done!
Love your vid’s man! Keep them coming!
Thanks!
Thank you for this video.
Your dogs are very forgiving. I have a raven that hangs out in my barn. It's a morning ritual for the dogs to chase her out and away.
Oh we have to make sure Bruce isn't out before we let the dogs run. 😄
@@HAXMAN GSDs do love chicken
That was so satisfying to watch, I know your wife loves your handiness. The British voice is cute.
Well done sir (pun intended) As a non-plumber but a similar diy guy such as yourself. I give you a thumbs up!
I did the exact same thing with our switch nipple....the 3 inch will work but you had to take off the cover to the switch. Great work ya'll.
Very nice video and she did it with one hand behind her back while eating a cheeseburger. Be safe and keep them coming.
Greetings from Germany! You're the man!
Thank you!
Great video! We are doing our solar electric fence and here I am having to take another trip to the store. 🤦♂️ I feel your pain!
Nice job Haxman!
Thanks!
For my first 20 years in this house, my 1.5 hp single phase 220VAC well pump had been burning the contacts of those cheap HomeDepot/Lowe's pressure switches every 5 years. I had enough of that replacement pain so I made the HD/Lowe's pressure switch merely control the coil of a DuraKool two pole mercury switch BF2-7027 with a 30A rating. No problem with relay contact burn out for 15 years now. I bought it some 10 years ago but never used it. Paid about $50 IIRC back then, but I see they now cost $400+. FJB.
That is why I'm a fan of union. They always make life easier.
Think of using a union fitting when you have an obstruction.
Yes in the South Mid-Georgia and below the well tanks are mostly installed outdoors.
I insulate my above ground pipes and use a heat tape for the one or two cold months.
Every where else there are small well sheds with a light socket to be on during the cold days.
You had me at the slow jams😅. Yeah, me too, at least 3 trips to the store to complete a project.
Good job
As a well service technician we have all gotten to the switch and realized it would not screw into the tank tee! for lack of clearance. Another option is to loosen the tank tee, install the switch with your original 4" nipple then rotate the tank tee back into horizontal position. Problem solved. This is an option when you find yourself 50 miles from a store.
My brain wasn't fully functioning.😄
that goop lol - may the force be with that hose head.
FYI, there are not supposed to be any shutoff valves between the pump and the pressure switch. That can cause some serious issues if someone cuts it off when the power for the well is on. It will over-pressurize the pipe between the valve and the pump. Also, the only check valve needed is at the top of the pump. My dad was a well driller and I would help him out on service calls and drilling wells a lot.
I tend to agree, But I HAD to have one due to my well be artesian and building pressure.. I just removed the handle on the shut off valve so no one closes it but me(hopefully)
Unless your schedule 40 pvc plastic pipe has been exposed to sun light till it has become brittle there is no way your well pump will build enough pressure to burst the pipe lucky to get 80 to 100 psi. If pvc pipe is in good shape it will hold about 300psi cold water hot water around 70psi at 130 degrees.
Good job. I hate plumbing. I always have a little leak because I'm scared to over tighten and strip the fittings.
I just knew something was going to leak when I got done too. I lucked up though.
I don’t know if I need a new pressure tank or not but I’m going to go ahead and do one just because this look so easy and fun.
You should. Even if you don't have a well.
Thanks god bless
The diaphragm comes off the bottom of that switch with a Phillips. Screw on the plate and reassemble. No gas to store needed. Diaphragm probably still good in old one. Good for MacGyver projects. :D
Here's a comment... you know, because it helps and I enjoy your videos:)
Thanks!
Nice video. Question, what system do you have in place to get water in the event you have no power? I saw a lockout on your breaker box, so other than the generator, do you have anything as a backup system? Thanks.
thanks
my old tank is sitting in the yard waiting to be turned into a fire-pit - if you made one first I could learn from your video :)
One of the rules of plumbing is that every job takes at least 3 trips to the hardware store.
Great job crazy savant man, 👍👍💚🍻
Thanks 👍
Yep... I need to do mine. But... I'm waiting to see if you make 1 more trip to the hardware store in the next vid... 🙂
Hey Hax - Great work. Nice video. Next time, might I suggest, you apply pipe dope using a spatula or shovel? And the just wrap the entire copper pipe with Blue Monster...you're almost there as it is. Ok, seriously, thanks for the education. Best to Kim & the girls and Bruce. Thumbs up.
Why would you cut me so deep Chuck? That hurts my fweelings 😂
Something I learned over the years.... whenever I'm doing plumbing or electrical or whatever kind of job...I just buy at least 2 of everything in that particular area of the hardware store...but I still have to make several trips anyway. Next time I'm just going to move next door to the store...easier that way! Great job, Haxmeister! Damn good job! And two 👍👍to Miss Riley for taking on the really hard work... she'll make a fine Ruler of the country one day! ALL HAIL THE ONE TRUE RULER, MISS RILEY!!!! Take care, be safe and God bless! (And many thanks for sharing this!)
I have so many extra parts and pieces from doing that over the years. Of course I can never find them when I need them later. Thanks Jim!
I, for one, welcome our new Haxmaniac overlord.
I couldn't agree more...however, like HAXMAN my garage is full of all the extra parts. I practically have the entire lawn irrigation aisle in my garage...strangely, I never have the right part.
When assembling stuff like that t with a lot of parts going on it I learned to leave it off to the side, get everything on it and tight then tighten the t the last 1/4 turn. Solves a lot of problems.
I almost assembled all the parts before inserting the t. Your method would have worked best.
Awesome video. All pluming none of the crack!
Will you leave the tank blue?
The next video will answer that question. 😉
Love your videos! Um, but I think you could have just unscrewed the "T" pipe and then added pressure switch, then tightened back up. ;)
Thanks! Yeah me no think so good sometimes. 😂
I guess you didn't hear us yelling at you, then.
I didn’t know about the tincture from palmetto berries.
Did you know that the Dog Fennel you cut that was next to the palmettos deters mosquitoes??
I did not. Good to know because we have a lot of it around here. I had no idea that's what it was called. I've mentioned before to Kim that it looks like fennel though.
@@HAXMAN You can also rub it on your skin for a deterrent as well. I live in Winter Haven, Florida. I’m familiar with it. 😂
@@kenmccrady1228 Thanks for the tip!
Lol. Back to the plumbing store. You are a funny dude. Lol
And I thought I was the only one with a pet black vulture. I have 2 that took up with me. I thought it was a sign my time here was ending soon but 2 years later and I'm still here. lol
😂
Great job dude!
Thanks!
Yea, we were worried!
@@tehNashty
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The reason for a bladder in the tank is to stop the air from being absorbed into the water.
Old well tanks had no bladder, and occasionally you had to add air to the tank.
You could have gotten by for years if you didnt mind pumping additional air in.
Shut off the power to the pump, open a tap somewhere, and pump in air until the tank is about half filled by volume...more or less. Then power it back up.
Depending on your water you might have to do that once or twice a year, but it's cheaper than a new tank.
In the older days the pressure tank had an air siphon about half way up the tank with a check ball. Every time the pump kicked on it sucked air in the top of thr tank. It made a sucking sounds. Cip cip cip cip is what one heard. It may have been better ,no bladder to replace.
We still do it that way in the south. Then you have a couple of Schrader valves to replace every now and then as well as a float valve to regulate the amount of air in the tank. Too much/too little air both = short cycle. Bad for pumps. @@martyscharff763
Great video. When did the original system get its camouflage paint job? Is the new tank getting one?
Thanks! That original spray job is from several years ago. I've got plans for new camo.
Yes you are correct I am a Plumber and im coming for your plums pal.
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Loved the pizza oven video. Next on my spare time list.
Your shut valve should be between the pressure tank and house. Not between well pump and tank. Currently if you shut that valve, the pump will not stop running because water pressure is not reaching the pressure switch. Also, if you get a leak in your house, you will have to bleed all the pressure from the tank before the leak stops. Takes a while to bleed down an 80 gallon tank.
May GOD continue to bless you and your family.
Thank you for the content.
Thank you!
It may cot the same, or a bit more, than paying a plumber, but it happens in your time, the way you want. And you develop the skills.
Bruce... Thats hilarious. 😂 I hope he didnt hear that 2 birds with one stone comment, lol
I wondered where he was when we finished.
You make it seem so doable😅
This is something that I have to do. I am just starting to have the same problem. Mine is downstairs in the basement though.
Hey HAXMAN, any update on whether or not this was effective in reducing pump run time?
Oh yeah. It made a big difference.
I had to do this crap in a 3ft muddy crawlspace filled with cobwebs after my old pressure tank blew up and put a ft of water under our house. That was "fun" ......
Nice.
Love your vids! Haters if ya don't like it don't watch!
For that pressure switch, you could turn the tee counterclockwise, screw on the pressure switch so the small side is against the tank and then re-tighten the tee.
I hate those tees for that very reason. I put a screw in shark bite fitting and pushed my pex into it and then made my own fittings for the relief valve, shut off
valve (which I connect a pressure gage with a garden hose connector only when I need to check the pressure). Those tees are way overpriced. And I used
the same pressure tank from Home Depot. Good job. Now I got to winterize mine.
Guess now you have that old tank that you can fix up to use for some project.
loosen the tank 'T' 1/4 turn, add the pressure switch, re-tighten Tank 'T'.
Assembly music bwahahahahahaha I reckon there would not be a dull moment with you lmfao. Congrats on installing this system oh by the way is there any tool you don't own just asking for a friend lol. Have a great day Haxman and stay safe mate.
I try to use every project as an excuse for a new tool. There are still a lot on my wish list. 😄
@@HAXMAN bwahahahahahahahaha good job
My bladder was also bad at a time when I really didn't have much funds.
But I got it worked out.i think I paid about $400 for my tank it's a 36 gallon tank.
And a friend of my help me install it.
But we didn't put a check vale on it,where do you put it?
Right after the wellhead. Don't take my word for it though I'm just a RUclipsr.
I always thought it was two stones with one bird. My bad.
I'm not sure that i have seen this setup outside normally inside or under shelter i'm guessing your in a tropical environment so your pipes don't freeze your electrical switch contactors may not last long in rain and humidity . 😉
I bet if you tried you could have gotten more pipe dope on those threads. Subscribed!
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Do you know what palmetto berries go for these days? 😲Pick those berries man! 😂
I've heard that. 😄
Ok now I’m going to paint my propane tank
what are you going to do with the old tank? i've got one lying around by the well. the chicken coop's not far away. another waterer for the chickens? maybe?
Hey Hax, you said your new filtration system removes manganese. There are two forms of manganese found in drinking water. There is the manganic form and the manganous form. Does it remove both?
I'm not really sure. I don't see specifically. They're really helpful though if you call them.
What's the plan for the old tanks?
Not sure yet
I see you are a fan of AvE. The bigger the glob, the better the job.
Use the tank tee with the Union Save-A-Lot of time later
Glad you got the plumbing figured out, but you could have just backed out the tank tee a quarter turn, snug down the pressure switch and the tighten the tank tee back to where you had it.
But when the switch goes bad you have to repeat the same process with water in the tank and possibly partially corroded. It's better to do what he did and shorten it