Your assessment is correct, it’s not about the gold, wood or stone it’s the actual process to manifest and bring into being that matters. I’ve crafted modern ka statues for the divinity to embody and currently working on my gold burial mask and sarcophagus. In the end you learn creating these objects are letting you get a glimpse of the process of creation itself so you can become one with the creator after death. This human life practice is a form of rehearsal before the main event so your life is dedicated to practicing and preparing yourself for the grand finale.
Ah, so thats why I decorate a statue with gold in front of a mirror and burn incense. I just figured the things of this world could serve to keep me grounded and down to earth. 😅
Glad to see someone undoing some of the hysteria or misinfo arround other mystic beliefs; I recently ran into the Hermetica and other things, and believe as you say that they are not incompatible with Christian faith, they are just other ways of reaching spiritual goals
When describing causal affinities, fractal patterns easily come to mind here. Are there some responsible speculations as to what mechanisms were utilized by telestic figures to access these causal links?
the explanation for some Theurgists,w as that a statue is like a candle or lamp, which is lit by the flame of the god, which itself is never diminished in lighting it. The different "symbola" of the statue determined the image of the daimon who might inhabit it. See Iamblichus On the Mysteries for a fuller explanation.
@@gunkwretch3697 that's a great answer, do you have the section of iamblichus to narrow down my search? am a big fan of plotinus, but only know indirect bits about iamblichus
Thanks for this, and while listening some light-bulbs went off in my head. Such as, in Romans 1.22-23 where Paul talks about idols, and now I think I have a better understanding of what his audience would have been thinking when they read this. Question is how much Paul believed the Hermetic ideas himself.
Dr. Litwa - Do you ever plan to write a book that synthesizes all of your knowledge into a holistic theory of Christian origins? I beg that you consider it one day. Like... how do we go from a historical Jesus to all of these diverse groups in such a short period of time???
Quick answer, they were mystics teaching other mystics. The Jerusalem group lost control in 62 CE and the movement, already heading different directions fractured and fell apart. While makes it seem that they reconciled, it’s clear many groups did not, those that did represented a spectrum of radiating belief.
I always learn something new from you sir! Thank you for bringing real scholarship to the public.
Your assessment is correct, it’s not about the gold, wood or stone it’s the actual process to manifest and bring into being that matters. I’ve crafted modern ka statues for the divinity to embody and currently working on my gold burial mask and sarcophagus. In the end you learn creating these objects are letting you get a glimpse of the process of creation itself so you can become one with the creator after death. This human life practice is a form of rehearsal before the main event so your life is dedicated to practicing and preparing yourself for the grand finale.
Been waiting on this book for so long! Thanks Dr Litwa
All this makes me wonder what would happen if a modern Theurgist created a humanoid robot designed to be a vessel/home for a god...
Bingo! A God Incarnate just not biological.
Dr Litwa, Wow!! This episode is breathtaking absolutely! And wonderfully delivered! Practically a course in Making Gods and truly enlivening! 🙏 🌌
Fascinating!
Very beautiful ❤
Thank you Dr.Litwa.❤ Your awesome
Ah, so thats why I decorate a statue with gold in front of a mirror and burn incense. I just figured the things of this world could serve to keep me grounded and down to earth. 😅
Glad to see someone undoing some of the hysteria or misinfo arround other mystic beliefs; I recently ran into the Hermetica and other things, and believe as you say that they are not incompatible with Christian faith, they are just other ways of reaching spiritual goals
Doctor Justin Sledge from the Esoterica Channel even links Catholic Lithurgy and Eucharistic with ancient hellenistic Theurgic practices
King of Tyre is OT
Dr Litwa, are you familiar with Julian Jayne's theory in Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind? If so what are your thoughts?
I’m not. But feel free to inform me
When describing causal affinities, fractal patterns easily come to mind here. Are there some responsible speculations as to what mechanisms were utilized by telestic figures to access these causal links?
Great question! Catch me over at patreon.com/mdavidlitwa
That gold looks delicious and shiny
if statues are optional embodiments for divine spirits, could 1 god be embodied in multiple statues at the same time across different locations?
I believe so
the explanation for some Theurgists,w as that a statue is like a candle or lamp, which is lit by the flame of the god, which itself is never diminished in lighting it. The different "symbola" of the statue determined the image of the daimon who might inhabit it. See Iamblichus On the Mysteries for a fuller explanation.
@@gunkwretch3697 that's a great answer, do you have the section of iamblichus to narrow down my search? am a big fan of plotinus, but only know indirect bits about iamblichus
Thanks for this, and while listening some light-bulbs went off in my head. Such as, in Romans 1.22-23 where Paul talks about idols, and now I think I have a better understanding of what his audience would have been thinking when they read this. Question is how much Paul believed the Hermetic ideas himself.
Great question.
Dr. Litwa - Do you ever plan to write a book that synthesizes all of your knowledge into a holistic theory of Christian origins? I beg that you consider it one day. Like... how do we go from a historical Jesus to all of these diverse groups in such a short period of time???
Id love a book on things his readers have brought to his attention.
Quick answer, they were mystics teaching other mystics. The Jerusalem group lost control in 62 CE and the movement, already heading different directions fractured and fell apart. While makes it seem that they reconciled, it’s clear many groups did not, those that did represented a spectrum of radiating belief.
Well… with continued support from you and others like you I can write books
Mutatis mutandis, de Spirit of the Most High came into the body, not of a statue, but a human. Christ was... born... baptised... anointed...
So?
@theobolt250 - Yes, but one is supposed to imitate Christ's nature, which is a departure from the theurgic understanding.