Special Forces: Making the Cut - Jungle Training
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- Опубликовано: 18 июл 2018
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Jungle Warfare school 1993, hardest training I did, got home at Xmas, and my mum and sister walked past me at the train station, didn’t recognise me I had lost that much weight....
Jason Fox is the sort of guy you want as your best friend
Think I’ll stick to call a duty if it’s all the same
I deployed to Brunei in the role of an instructor, teaching comms to candidates on their jungle phase of their acquaint. One candidate had put his hand through a rotten tree that had fallen onto the ground. His hand had swollen to an unbelievable size, and was obviously extremely painful. He had decided to stay in the jungle and carry on. Kudos to him. Later , when the training team discussed the performance of the candidates, both collectively and as individuals, the aforementioned incident came up for discussion. The main concerns of the training team were not the fact that he had decided to endure, but the question of why his hand and subsequent trigger finger was not on his weapon.
I was a Royal Marine attached to SBS In the capacity of a Special Forces Signaller. It isn’t what most people assume are the main requirements, but a certain type of mindset. The ability to keep smiling when you are cold, tired and wet. Acknowledging that you are not the most important thing on earth, and that you’re only as strong as the weakest member.
Standards fellas, standards.
@voiic Hi there. I was in SBS, as an S3. Which is a signaller. Have a look at 264 Sig Squadron, and it will give you a better understanding of the role is was in. Like all the lads in SBS we are Royal Marines Commandos. The Marines who carry out the role of what is typically known as SBS are SC3's-Swimmer Canoeists. I hope that it makes sense to you.
@@dendemano I cannot thank you enough for your sacrifices sir, you guys are the reason why we can sleep peacefully every night.
Though I have a question and its okay if you do not answer because I respect the need of secrecy for such occupation.
This is my question:
Do SBS operate in land environments(urban, rural, mountain, jungle, arctic, and desert) because i read that they are primarily maritime operators in counter terrorism, direct action, and hostage rescue?
@@Charles-nc4zj Hi . Sorry for the delay in responding. SBS, mainly recruit from the Royal Marines, and you are correct in your assumption that they are predominantly focused on maritime anti-terrorism. Although, they are trained in all of the aforementioned disciplines. C Sqadron and M Squadron are conventional and anti-terrorism troops, respectively. The SBS are quite literally capable of operating in any theatre of operations, but do specialise in what they are most commonly known for. They are smaller in size than their SAS counter parts, who are broken down into Sabre Squadrons, where they specialise in Boat, Mountain, Air etc...... SBS, C Squadron troops will cover all of these skills. The Royal Marines have their own unit for Mountain and Arctic Warfare. The soldiers in this unit are referred to as “Mountain Leaders” in my opinion they are probably the best “bread and butter” conventional soldiers in the world. They were instrumental in the Falkland War conflict. Most people have never heard about their exploits, or even their existence. A programme on the training, their role, and the joining process can be found on BBC iPlayer. It’s called “Behind the Lines” it is slightly dated now, but does offer some insight. I have served with, and under a few of the men in the series.
I hope you enjoy it. I’d be happy to hear your thoughts on the series. If and when you see it.
Peace.
@@dendemano this is really interesting thank you for explaining this I'm in the army right now and find anything to do with special forces really interesting.
How long did you serve in the sbs for if you don't mind me asking?
@@thomasdoy3350 Hiya Thomas. Glad to have helped. 5/6 years, between 95-2001. Regrettably, I had to leave due to a back injury, as a result of parachuting.
You think living in the jungle is bad......... Try Bradford.
You think living in Bradford is bad, you should try living with my wife... Il take the jungle...
@@colinp5248 I'd take a jungle in Bradford
chaddy1969 don’t you mean Bradistan no jungle there
Everything in Bradford wants to kill me
@B Bradfordabad
Forget training ... My Uncle was a Chindit, 3rd Column Spec Forces under Ord Wingate in Burma during WW2 - their job was to harass the Japanese behind enemy lines and blow up railways and generally make a nuisance - the entire exercise was beyond harrowing, he would barely speak anything of it. Nearly half the Chindit force that went in, didn't come out - my Grandmother told me when he came back to England after the war he was nothing but skin and bone and could not share a bed with his wife for years afterwards ... nobody knows Jungle Fighting like those men ... nobody and what they went through - you don't want to know.
Incredible respect for the chindits 🇬🇧👍
And now look at the cut of the uk and europe in general. Their sacrifices were all in vain.
Respect 👍
The Velo In The Vale I have some idea, said with the greatest of respect for your uncle, for the Chindits and those who gave their lives. In a different war i came out at just 9 stone after 2 years and i never could sleep in a bed. So i know what you have posted as being true.
@@sirivanhoe8672 sorry to sound ignorant, but what's the significance of not being able to sleep in a bed?
Please make more of these videos they're brilliant.
Hard as nails 💪🏻
Harder than nails.
Exactly no snow flakes wanted 👍🇬🇧🪖😎🤔
Yes beyond human.
Well Ard.
It's the intelligent, articulate men who are the toughest. I guess this means it really is about mind, more than body.
Loved Belize jungle school was brilliant, they say look out for bastard trees and you think what? then you slip or fall and find out why.
Shit YEAH! I did that one, too. I think it was the very first one they did. '76 or '77, I forget. That was the fittest I've ever been after a month or so on that course.
Ian Woods , And deadfall That will kill you real fast
Lol ahh the memories I lost 3stone in 6 weeks !
It's funny how most of them don't look like your particularly "hard" types, they all seem quite reserved and almost posh too. Wouldn't expect people like that to endure what the SAS go through.
Because “hard lads” aren’t hard.
@@johnmc8675 It depends on what you mean when you say "hard lad". Dickheads who wear trackies and come from rough areas aren't hard, but I'm talking more about people like Ant Middleton (who was in the SBS) who you can clearly tell right off the bat that they can look after themselves and aren't to be fucked with.
It takes all types..and certain types..
I was in Manchester Airport about 8 months ago and there was a skinny lad with a metallica top and his face covered walking with a police officer armed to the teeth , they are just normal people but fucking ruthless
They have incredible mental toughness!
Respect for all those men in the video and out🙌🙌🙌
Trained for 2 years in the Malayan jungle in the early 1980's with 1 RNZIR. Enjoyed the jungle a great place to train and operate in,6 weeks on the trackers course was the best one.Operated as a lead scout-tracker,in my 2nd year.
Played Rugby against the RNZIR in Brunei. Good bunch of lads!
@@Backs4more We had a few Marine Commando's on my tracking course in Malaya 1982.
I think Jason fox is captain John price
You wouldnt be far off. Price is based off of John McAleese of the S.A.S
Those that passed jungle training went on to try their hand at the old British rail sandwiches.
as soon as its warm and wet enough... youll start rotting... dont need the jungle... you could have access to basic utilities... its starts to get warm and humid... youll start rotting away...
thank you/
I was just your normal AAC soldier. I loved the jungle.
I loved Jungle training when I was in the Army it was a great experience and I volunteered to do three additional Jungle patrols.
SF jungle training is a lot worse than regular.
The jungle doesn’t discriminate! It’s brutal whatever force you’re training for. And all forces training will have you blowing out of your hoop in the most luxurious environment. The op deserves our thanks and respect.
@@jamiereed9395 yeah but SF will go in with nothing regs will have ration packs etc there is a difference pal
TBG HAWK this isn’t just sas training
Felix Crawfurd when did you do it?
It's not hard to make the Special Sauces. All you need is fresh ingredients and the will to hand over your soul.
JJ Blake.Ha Ha. Very good comment🇬🇧🗡⛑
Marco Pierre White handed his soul over to Knorrs ,and now makes all of his special sauces with just a stockpot.
I woke up one morning and there was no toilet paper! NO TOILET PAPER goddamn it! I was fuming.
Yep, loved the J, as a kiwi infantry man we trained in Malaysia for 2 years, best time I ever had in the army
Craig Rik : Aww kiwis are cute ☺️
@@SK_Esskay cute and tough xx
Craig Rik: I don't doubt that 🥝 x
Whereabouts in Malaysia, pakeha?
@@goodputin4324 mainly between Kluang and Mersing in the Endau Rompin jungle. Probably spent 9 months of the year in the J. Major exercises with all the ANZUK allies up in the Penang district though. Loved it
Jason Fox is my man crush!
Whether its from years ago or nowadays, we don't know and some of us are probably wanting to know, kit has evolved from WW2 but that doesn't change the environment, that's what they 'soldiers' have to adapt to, as a soldier training environments is one thing but these soldiers have been through the real jungle battles, its inspiring hearing the training, but can only imagine what the humidity, sounds, wildlife, insects would be like and to maintain focus on the task at hand....so much respect for what these soldiers do and have done in the past and present. Never get bored of hearing their stories, their battles both mentally and physically.
lee todkill its bit like covid19, be alert. ✋🏻
@@sirivanhoe8672 it really is similar, always about being alert and aware.
Reminds me of my time in Nam.
Cheltenam?
Haha thats fuckin class!!
Real men.
Wow- this man, major crush going on
Lisa Stevens the bald guy ?
Big G ha h- god no!!!!!!! Mr Fox be still my beating heart
@@lisastevens4379 I've bought his book and I go to sleep every night listening to his voice 💕😋
@@shipscook3765 I can but wish 😆😆😉😇
@@gillkelly9864 creepy...
Sounds fantastic when can I start
Those that were in special force don’t talk about it usually. My dad was a special forces comms guy in Borneo in the 60s
I had panic attacks in kew gardens
🇬🇧
...and there's people actually living in the jungle and enjoying it :) Me, I prefer the Arctic weather - no ticks, no leaches.
@TJ Teknik
Right. No worries with polar bears and frostbite.
These guys don't hesitate when sent to sort a problem, no holding back Sort it 1st then ask questions Job Done
LIKE.
My great-uncle fought in the jungles of Burma during WWII for SBS 2 and managed to survive.
Uncle "M"?
Liar!
You edited your comment because you were exposed for lying
Yeah. Forget that then
god threwth. sounds very tough
Is Jungle training about month in the SAS selection?
Scorpions stinging you in odd places. I'll pass.
Sounds like Glastonbury 😁
Jungle training was awesome I loved it
It made your forget your adult name!
@@MichaelKingsfordGray yes my friend and that way I can say what I like 😉
@@pac3198 Infantile Coward.
Colonel tim collins? Was in the sas?
When I sign up for sas I'll never sleep I just need awake and see if they are coming or not
One eye open at all times.
Axl Rose would have welcomed you and invited you to play fun and games.
And I moan if the bus is late lol
And I cant even do a bit if exercise today. Terrible. They would be like......getttttttttttt yourrrrrrr arsssssssssse upppppp nowwwwww!!!!!!!!!
Awesome!!! Where do I sign-up?
British SAS
@@blahblahman7373 Not a fan then?
@@BelloBudo007 yes you not a fan you a human ( :
I wouldn't last ten seconds !!!!!!
I can confirm that not only does the jungle want to kill you the locals do to.. jungle training 81.
Only here for Jason fox
There was a SEAL interviewed about having women on the teams and he said part of the problem is going to be what these guys described --- depending on what you either swim through or walk through the guys literally will look up each other's butt crack and everywhere else to pull the creepy crawleys off of each other .
And? I feel like everything you go through during sas selection, someone inspecting your arse crack and fanny is the least of their worries
Women lack the muscle mass to operate in extreme environments and regular environments as well. Blokes might be compelled to save the female at the detriment of the team or mission. However, some females could prove very valuable and useful in certain circumstances. Simply put, men are more ruthless and stronger. Don’t want to see a woman operator getting captured and tortured either.
Jason Fox ......This man isn’t the least bit attractive 🤥😍😍😍🥰
Ok
For some reason this is making me want to go more hahahah would rather have scorpion down me undies then some bad boss shouting at me in an office
And to think, in every jungle there’s indigenous people living quite comfortably all year round. Wandering about butt naked not being eaten alive.
The indigenous people are able to build decent shelters, fires etc. They don't have to be tactical in any way. They aren't moving to different areas in the day and having to conceal themselves or stag on at night. They grow up in the environment and have developed methods of dealing with since birth.
What level of COD is this?
DLC
@@phililpb lol. Good answer 😂
this reminds me of my time in the SAS. Fun times
A Mf SAS don’t usually say they were in the special forces mate
@@enterrorroughly8753 Sounds like you dont know many sas troopers then ;)
Walter prick
Jason Fox - Archetypal Alpha Male: women want him, men want to be him.
Alright bro. Your gay is showing.
@@burritomaker69 How is telling the truth gay?
Max Power it’s clearly a woman’s profile
Max Power Hate to break it to you “Max” but “Jane” is not a man’s name. Maybe that’s not all you’re confused about?
Leeches are just flat out one of the most disgusting creatures on the planet, pretty much everything else I think I could deal with like yeah it would be shit but those things, nah bro like they pose no real threat and I don’t know why I hate them so much (have as long as I can remember) but I’d be paranoid the whole time that I had one on me or that when I sleep one would bite my eye or something.
It's sad but a lot of these guys leave special forces with nothing but memories and family problems and no skills except army techniques. You cant be in that line of work and be 40 years old .
The smart ones build relationships and connections while still serving. Once out, they start making the real money as advisers, mercenaries and heads of security details. They are the best and as a result, the cream of the crop for certain jobs.
They are on silly money with little outgoings. Its no different than any other job. Choosing not to invest in homes and other assets is on the person who spunked the cash away. Not to mention what the George fella above said.
Not really selling it chaps.
Integration was scarry
You think that's bad? Try getting lvl 2 invaded by twitch. :(((
Reminds me on when I was sas. Jungle training was hard but we’re harder. Who Dares Wins YEE!
@@sirivanhoe8672 Nope, deadly serious. Never lie. Thats one of the things they teach you in the sas regiment. Never lie, Never surrender.
@@thirdpath2259 are you joking? You were not in the regiment.
@@cheekboy7247 I was in the speical elite servies, fought in somme, aghan,, iraq, france and eurepe.
@@thirdpath2259 you are just a troll. If you were in the sas you would know how to write english. Why did you fight in france?
@@cheekboy7247 Fought in the Deeday landings. And dont take the piss out of my handwriting, my hand got damaged in an enemy nuke attack in Iraq
I once scored 100,000 on call of duty...so...
No psych` eval` for UKSF.......show us you can operate in the jungle!
How much money do they make?
about 45 to 55 thousand pound a year depending on rank
These guys always remained in the shadows but celebritism beckons everyone muppets.
You don't live on the floor in the jungle, who is this guy?
It's something they're made to do as part of the selection process. It's normal routine.
Jason Fox he was in the Special Boat Service
r/wooosh
@@yamabushi170 Bullshit!
Hard routine. Probably a 4 man op.
Why do they piss in bottles then?
Leave no trace of anything behind for the enemy to find.
Your body waste attracts insects in large quantities, which can be a tell tale that you’ve been there, for those who are tracking you.
Also if u leave a no2 you can tell if a person is ill , dehydrated, and if they have rations or living off jungle .
Ummm, ahhhhhh, uhhhh.
Most of this is bullshit , if you got stung by a scorpion in an intimate place , you would be out of it. The first guy is the only one that makes sense. The two other guys are novice.
The jungle is not a dangerous place , it is neutral.
Personally I love it .
Just to add, I got stung by a scorpion recently.
On the palm of the hand , after 12 hours I could not move my fingers or wrist. I spent a day in hospital , receiving jabs and laying down for
Hourly periods.
Sorry but I get really fed up with all this crap.
It's really not crap. They are all ex-SF and will have done 2 months of jungle training as part of selection, and will likely have done exercises in the environment after this.
Different scorpions have different levels of toxins, so your experience is just that - your experience.
The jungle can be a very dangerous place if you don't know what you're doing, and even if you do it can still surprise you. Sit on the wrong piece of ground and you risk a fer de lance or coral snake having a go. Put your hand on a tree and you will likely get impaled by 2 inch spikes growing from them. It is constantly wet and your sweat doesn't evaporate because of the humidity so dehydration is a real threat, especially as many if the water source scare filled with dead animals and rotting vegetation. After a couple of weeks your clothes are literally rotting off your body. Lots of the wildlife just wants to eat you. Fall asleep in the wrong place and you risk a dead fall landing on your head. These guys have to kip on the ground - Have you ever woken up with an army of millions of fire ants moving through your area, swarming all over you? The entire ground looks like it's moving, and they will tear horrific welts out of you. I've even been woken up by a fresh water crab(!) trying to rip off one of my eyelids in Belize. Getting lost is very easy - Satnav usually doesn't work because of the interference from the wet canopy, and land navigation is tough because you can't see landmarks through vegetation and everything looks the same. Dozens die every year in the jungle just because they got lost.
@@PaddyInf well that is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever read, have you ever been anywhere close to the jungle?
Your description of the jungle is not even close
You should watch what you are writing 😉
There will be many jungle bunnies reading this
Just to put things straight, we did mainly 10 day patrols, also we slept on the ground , we never removed our boots or smoked, in all the time we
were in the Ulu very seldom we saw a snake ( they saw us ) the jungle is what you make of it
It is entirely neutral. The guys you seem to hero worship are just making money in other words
Utter Bullshit.
I recommend you read the book written by
Freddie Spencer Chapman The Jungle is Neutral
His true story. Advice: don't believe all this
Crap just to add we always gave our greens to
the dobi to wash after patrols sometimes replaced our canvas boots , everyone preferred
to keep using our old clothes as they become
more comfortable to wear. Our patrols were normally 10 days. 10 days in the jungle 4 days in Basecamp.
Most of us have 2 years experience.
Borneo 1965 . I have been told that the jungle in
Belize is secondary, therefore hard going.
Our Borneo jungle in 1965 was mainly primary
I was there last year so much has now been
Logged
I did exercises in Belize with my parent regiment and did it 4 times on final exercise when I was an instructor at PCBC, spending a month at a time under the canopy. I did JWIC in Brunei. I also failed my 2nd attempt at selection in TTP phase. So yes, I've done some time in the jungle. My description is exactly my experience.
@@PaddyInf who were you with. ?
@@PaddyInf Have you been to JWS Kota tingi ?
Fraudulent click bait.
I'm getting bored of all this now.
Don't watch the video then moron
I could think of worse things than having to pee in a bottle and having sand in your socks...
Joking aside, this jungle training is something that's best to hear about from the comfort of one's couch. Raher them than me.