I'm blown away at how long it took for a third party company to realize, "Hey, why don't we make a toy out of arguably one of the most popular combiners ever designed/made/etc.?" Seriously. If they continued to remaster the Victory line, people's wallets would be done. There are so many fantastic combiners in Victory and I, for one, would love to see Road Caesar done. Proportions may be difficult given the transformation but I'm all too confident that they can pull it off. That said, can anybody tell me why third parties never touch Prime or Saber? I mean I can imagine why but I just don't have any facts to work with from the web :(
I'd forgotten about him, though I do have Cliffjumper (who is unfortunately not red) tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/d/d3/Energon_Cliffjumper_toy.jpg/300px-Energon_Cliffjumper_toy.jpg
i'm pretty sure Rhadamanthus's nosecone is supposed to split at the end and fold up along the sides of the cockpit to give him clearance for hades waist swivel.
Tfc really doesn't do simple retools. Gaihawk and Drillhorn will most likely be entirely new molds that share the same transformations only. Possibly some internal bits too.
See my reply to Mike Kaess above (if comments are the same order I'm seeing them), I posted prototype pics of them in alt mode, TFC Aiakos and Hypnos if you want to google their bot modes.
Yep, though with some pretty good retooling. More of a Rook to Swindle as opposed to Swindle to Hound. i.tformers.com/g/generated/28337/image-3__scaled_800.jpg ww4.sinaimg.cn/mw1024/8271cf6egw1ey8ynzidtvj218g0wo4b5.jpg
+Benscollectables I'm definitely looking forward to picking these up. Originally I was only going to get Hellbat, but your reviews keep talking me into the others.
definitely my favorite of the bunch so far...Loving this Jaruga...now correct me if im wrong..but arent Gaihawk and Drillhorn retools of the other two released so far?..
Cat Vs Dog gaming That doesnt make any sense. These technically ALL were in Generation 1 continuity in japan at least. Drillhorn was no different then yhe rest ;)
+MrSwindle666 I posted links with pics of their prototypes in a reply to Mike Kaess above. You can google them TFC Aiakos and Hypnos if you want to see their bot modes. They look like retools to me, but sufficiently different ones considering their similar alt modes.
I wish they'd redo these in the European colours, I had him the breastforce/rescue force when I was young, always wondered why they were missing chest pieces.
Awesome combiner set man! It may be the first 3rd party combiner that I get. Although if I get the extra cash I might go with Toy worlds Devastator too. As it is now I'm having enough trouble paying for the Takara Adventure line, Masterpiece line, Combiner wars, Variable Action Heroes One Piece, ShFiguarts Dragonball, Star Wars Black series, AND to top it off the Transformers 3A line. Not to me tion SoC SRC and Power Rangers retail *sigh* but I'll ALWAYS find a way if I want something :)
I was looking at a image of a semi put together LioKaiser on Chimungmung and I'm curious on the knees. Are they going to bend, and how? Would we have to turn the robot leg limb around to do so? Looks like the tank tread could hinder a 90 degree bend even if it did.
+Jeff Perrin The front half of the tank treads can fold back and down to make room for the knee joint. You can do it on both sides, though I think leaving the front one up in the vehicle mode position looks better.
Cameron Moriarty Yeah I didn't watch the Killbison or Hellbat reviews untll after I posted that question. And saw how Ben folded both sides down, can clearly see the clearance. How's the connector peg's connection? Tight, semi, loose? Legs can make or break a figure.
Benscollectables Okay cool. I have high hopes for this combiner. You've sold me, gonna pick up the four now, right after I get my shipping sorted out with my seller.
i like the design of tfc hades but i dissapointed with the color. how i wish hades's tight is grey or white instead of black. hope that aiakios / guyhawk will be magenta and not pink or orange
Yeah, you say that like someone in Hasblow could sit and design a 6 bot combiner when they could just repaint 5... if you want 6 they will repaint Devastator, give him a new head and tell you: "Here you have the 6 bot Liokaiser"...
+Pablous If you look at your wording you actually get the main problem. Hasbro/Takara COULD design a 6 bot combiner instead of repainting 5, but they WOULDN'T.
+Pablous takara is not hasbro :/ they made wild rider, and slingshot new headsculpts for figures, they made groove an new mold, the made blast off an new mold, they heavily retooled superion, breakdown, blast off, rook, and groove into computron, lightspeed, strafe, nosecone, and afterburner takara has been going through g1 accuracy I think they could do it
TFC's Hades is a improvement definitely over their previous releases for sure also their upcoming piranacon/King Poesideon is also looking pretty awesome...
I'm blown away at how long it took for a third party company to realize, "Hey, why don't we make a toy out of arguably one of the most popular combiners ever designed/made/etc.?"
Seriously. If they continued to remaster the Victory line, people's wallets would be done. There are so many fantastic combiners in Victory and I, for one, would love to see Road Caesar done. Proportions may be difficult given the transformation but I'm all too confident that they can pull it off.
That said, can anybody tell me why third parties never touch Prime or Saber? I mean I can imagine why but I just don't have any facts to work with from the web :(
Man, their really speeding up to get these guys done fast. Kudos to TFC.
are you gone finish tfc hades
Funny you mention the Energon-esque feel, as this reminds me a great deal of Energon Cliffjumper/Beachcomber.
I'd forgotten about him, though I do have Cliffjumper (who is unfortunately not red) tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/d/d3/Energon_Cliffjumper_toy.jpg/300px-Energon_Cliffjumper_toy.jpg
Boom yep that's it
i'm pretty sure Rhadamanthus's nosecone is supposed to split at the end and fold up along the sides of the cockpit to give him clearance for hades waist swivel.
Jallguar's shins really remind me of TFC Silverbolt's. Especially those kneepads. Does the shin part lock to the hips in combined mode?
red black white is lovely
So it does do the Soul of Chogokin Gaogaigar with the head. I like it even more now.
sort of though it does go over the head just like how gaogaigar does
I'm guessing you never got the last member of the team? Interested to see what you thought of the combined mode.
Did you get a new camera, Ben? That quality is fantastic! If I may ask, which camera are you using for this? The DOF is great!
Just wish he had more yellow.
the G1 figures had that bit of yellow in them all to tie them together.
Great review Ben! My wukong blast off and vortex arrived yesterday and it seems vortex has those mould marks aswell, will you be reviewing yours soon?
Tfc really doesn't do simple retools. Gaihawk and Drillhorn will most likely be entirely new molds that share the same transformations only. Possibly some internal bits too.
See my reply to Mike Kaess above (if comments are the same order I'm seeing them), I posted prototype pics of them in alt mode, TFC Aiakos and Hypnos if you want to google their bot modes.
Personally it is my first one third paty combiner and I find that tfc toys knew got the image of Liokaiser of the original ^^
Not to nitpick, aren't the next 2 figures going to be just copies of the current arm plane and tank leg? Still, 4 out of 6 unique figures is nice!
Yep, though with some pretty good retooling. More of a Rook to Swindle as opposed to Swindle to Hound. i.tformers.com/g/generated/28337/image-3__scaled_800.jpg ww4.sinaimg.cn/mw1024/8271cf6egw1ey8ynzidtvj218g0wo4b5.jpg
Yeah they are similar but with heavy retooling
+Cameron Moriarty ahhhh lol yep what Cameron said
+Benscollectables I'm definitely looking forward to picking these up. Originally I was only going to get Hellbat, but your reviews keep talking me into the others.
I can't unsee the diapers... but these are indeed an awesome lot...
definitely my favorite of the bunch so far...Loving this Jaruga...now correct me if im wrong..but arent Gaihawk and Drillhorn retools of the other two released so far?..
Drillhorn maybe cause he was in g1 I think
Cat Vs Dog gaming That doesnt make any sense. These technically ALL were in Generation 1 continuity in japan at least. Drillhorn was no different then yhe rest ;)
+MrSwindle666 I posted links with pics of their prototypes in a reply to Mike Kaess above. You can google them TFC Aiakos and Hypnos if you want to see their bot modes. They look like retools to me, but sufficiently different ones considering their similar alt modes.
+Cdog Cdog you have a point
+Cameron Moriarty thanks...just what i wanted to see...definitely look like retools...albeit really nice retools at that...
this set of toy are latterly giving me chills of nerstager
Literally* nostalgia*. I believe thats what you meant
I wish they'd redo these in the European colours, I had him the breastforce/rescue force when I was young, always wondered why they were missing chest pieces.
Awesome combiner set man! It may be the first 3rd party combiner that I get. Although if I get the extra cash I might go with Toy worlds Devastator too. As it is now I'm having enough trouble paying for the Takara Adventure line, Masterpiece line, Combiner wars, Variable Action Heroes One Piece, ShFiguarts Dragonball, Star Wars Black series, AND to top it off the Transformers 3A line. Not to me tion SoC SRC and Power Rangers retail *sigh* but I'll ALWAYS find a way if I want something :)
Those clear red hands worry me... And I'd paint that face silver instead of gold...
He's gonna kick Star Saber's ass....AGAIN... XD
I was looking at a image of a semi put together LioKaiser on Chimungmung and I'm curious on the knees. Are they going to bend, and how? Would we have to turn the robot leg limb around to do so? Looks like the tank tread could hinder a 90 degree bend even if it did.
+Jeff Perrin The front half of the tank treads can fold back and down to make room for the knee joint. You can do it on both sides, though I think leaving the front one up in the vehicle mode position looks better.
Cameron Moriarty Yeah I didn't watch the Killbison or Hellbat reviews untll after I posted that question. And saw how Ben folded both sides down, can clearly see the clearance. How's the connector peg's connection? Tight, semi, loose? Legs can make or break a figure.
I haven't tested but I haven't heard any problems either
+Jeff Perrin feels pretty tight buddy not breaking tight but secure enough to hold decent poses
Benscollectables Okay cool. I have high hopes for this combiner. You've sold me, gonna pick up the four now, right after I get my shipping sorted out with my seller.
Picking up only this one because he reminds me of an old 2005 Cybertron figure.
That and I'm not really familiar with LioKaiser
i will be making 3rd party figures soon and i will make mp figures. i might make a deathsaurus would you like a 30 inch MP Scorponok
Would love one but can't see how that can be made adorable
+Benscollectables yeah unless it was a KO oversized verison...
i like the design of tfc hades but i dissapointed with the color. how i wish hades's tight is grey or white instead of black. hope that aiakios / guyhawk will be magenta and not pink or orange
Wow Jaguar buddy, you look a lot bulkier than I remember...You been hitting the gym?
(From the anime)
Skylynx looks like the torso.
So what about drillhorn and guyhawk, the other two breasts force?
He supposed to be short anyways so works out…and yeh just want him and one other….
For a member of the Breastforce, he's not very...robust.
Yeah, you say that like someone in Hasblow could sit and design a 6 bot combiner when they could just repaint 5... if you want 6 they will repaint Devastator, give him a new head and tell you: "Here you have the 6 bot Liokaiser"...
+Pablous If you look at your wording you actually get the main problem. Hasbro/Takara COULD design a 6 bot combiner instead of repainting 5, but they WOULDN'T.
takara could do a 6 bot combiner through deluxes though:D
They could, I'm not hopeful they would.
I don't think they can... they are too lazy to design a new bot...
+Pablous takara is not hasbro :/ they made wild rider, and slingshot new headsculpts for figures, they made groove an new mold, the made blast off an new mold, they heavily retooled superion, breakdown, blast off, rook, and groove into computron, lightspeed, strafe, nosecone, and afterburner takara has been going through g1 accuracy I think they could do it
stop showing the sexy toys off!
*shakes piggy bank*
I don't know about tfc their hound was crap. This does look better
TFC's Hades is a improvement definitely over their previous releases for sure also their upcoming piranacon/King Poesideon is also looking pretty awesome...
Now I’m imagining the breast partner mauling brain of courage to death
His thighs are too short in combined mode.
they aren't it will make more sense later....
+Jetfire48 So the combined form pic at bigbadtoystore is wrong?
+White Arrow um the legs look fine whats wrong with it...
Looks like he's wearing a saggy diaper