Why the Overland Expo has nothing to do with Overlanding. Living full-time in my Jeep Cherokee XJ 
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2024
- This is just my opinion of why the Overland Expo has nothing to do with Overlanding. It seems nowadays everybody thinks it’s more important to look bad ass and have a bad ass looking jeep or off-road vehicle to look important  then to just get out to have fun, with what you need.
Hi, my name is john and I’m 69 years old and I have been living full-time out of my Jeep Cherokee XJ overlanding and exploring and Fly Fishing everywhere and just living the dream.
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The best line of all times when you said "they need a therapy"👍👍👍. That Earthroamer looks more like it's gonna start a new colony somewhere in a wilderness. They probably want to show how important they are to wildlife.
Lol if you are spending $1.5 million just to go Camping you definitely should be in therapy. Been living in my Jeep full-time for five years now and people think I should be in therapy. 🤪
its always refreshing to hear a good rant. interesting video. for me it's simply a matter of gaining some separation from the crowds, I love nature and peace and quiet is an underrated commodity (and it's essentially free). Ultimately nature without human noise soothes my soul and I find myself being most content when I am in that setting. Its nice to share with other people sometimes but for me solitude and silence , except for the sounds nature makes like bird song or the breeze in the trees or frogs and crickets suits my personality to a tee.
thanks for sharing your point of view.
Yep, there’s nothing like being outside camping without any human noise around
Expo jumped the shark years ago....sad. I sleep in the back of my 4Runner. Consumerism is destroying our culture. I sleep great at night per I have no debt or mortgage. Keep it rolling brother!! Timmy C Arizona
The only reason why I did this day trip to this Overland expo was just to do the video and I was very close to it. I will never go back to another one.
I love this guy..man after my own heart...👍
Thanks, man I tried to keep it real and true to life. I don’t bend down to social media.
You simply must get Dual Snorkels on your rig. I hear they are all the rage in Bavaria... hahahah
I was thinking about getting a snorkel and I was thinking maybe I should get married again. 🤪. NOOOOOT
@@overthehillandoverthemount2925 Of course you know this was all in jest.. haha
Excellent points, John, about those overstuffed rolling mansions, many with absurdly long wheelbases, sold at the Expos. I wonder how many newbies go to Expos and think, at a minimum, they need to buy a souped up, overpriced rig with an overpriced, topheavy rooftop tent ($5,000+). A good ground tent, with beefy stakes, still works fine for many folks. I am somewhere in the middle, driving a comfortable, well-equipped 4 Wheel Camper since 2016, which was bought used for a reasonable price. But I have to say I still enjoy going to Expos and looking at what is available, even if most products are impracticle or overpriced.
@@bobkent2334 this is why a lot of America is dumb as a brick. Nobody knows how to think for themselves. Everybody just goes on social media and social media tells them what they need to have to have fun outside and they believe it. The Overland expos are always good for a good laugh and it’s always fun to do people watching there.
John, you are the true definition of an overlander. That is why I enjoy following your adventures so much. Just keep it simple.
Hey Chazzie I always found it is more important just to get out and explore and have fun then worry about what other people would think about my jeep. I probably do more offloading and Overlanding than most of these people with $100,000 jeep. Lol
@@chazzie5418 happy birthday and thanks for the beers
Best video you've made! Love it. You nailed it.
Thanks I appreciate it
Everyone needs a rant once in awhile:) you’re proof of how little we need for great adventures!
@@debrabain7564 there’s nothing like a good rant once in a while.
you are exactly right. I've been doing this adventure car camping thing for 50 years. Long before anyone uttered the word "overlanding". I've been to 14 Overland Expos. This year I just said ENOUGH. The truth is that all this hype and money, and hyperbolic influencers are destroying everything that makes this pursuit wonderful. once pristine campsites have been trashed by lazy fools following gps routes shared (sold) by influencers. Many of these people also promote a type A powersport approach that puts people and equipment at risk. Expo has changed over the years to promote all of that. I've come to even hate the word "overlanding"
Hey David you are absolutely right. I have been backpacking since the early 70s and on my journeys I thought I spent way too much money on lightweight backpacking gear that is nothing compared to what people spend on their vehicle just to go outside and camp. This is my fifth Overland expo, and I will never do another one again. I have lost so many backwood campsites that I used to love that just got trashed cause it got popular and they just shut it down. I am like you I hate the word, Overlanding myself and I think I call myself an adventure seeker now.
@@overthehillandoverthemount2925 I started backpacking in 1972. It sounds like we might have a few things to talk about, LOL. I just stumbled onto this channel, and I like the "old man" perspective. I'm out traveling myself about 8 months out of the year. I do have a 300 sq ft cabin where I hole up for a few months each year to fix/maintain my truck, or whatever. Let's hope we can keep doing this for a while! This year has been a hot one so far!
@@Dav-S5658 absolutely. I will be 70 years old this year and I’m pretty happy I can still get out and do hiking and walk the rivers while and Fly Fishing and I will be doing that as long as I can, living the dream.
My husband showed me this video and I loved it so much, we ended up binge watching your channel this afternoon. Now I'm a new subscriber. (My husband already subscribed earlier.)
I love your channel with all the nature shots. Would rather look at that than someone's over-priced overlanding gear, right?
Here's to you keeping it authentic -- have a stout on me.
Thank you so much for the kind words and I’m so happy you are enjoying my videos. I’d like to keep everything true to life. The journey and the exploring is more important to me than trying to impress everybody with my vehicle. Thank you so much for the beer. I think I’m about ready to open up a stout now.
I agree. I went to the one in Flagstaff in 2017 and that was the last one for me. Seems the RUclipsrs I have followed are following suit. Now they have new rigs a couple times a year and all the trendy accessories that most of us can't afford. Thanks for the video from a new subscriber. Rock on.
Thanks for subscribing and welcome aboard. I don’t think most people can’t afford it and they just put themselves in debt just to look bad ass.
@@overthehillandoverthemount2925 I can agree with that too. I'm too old to look bad ass and don't care what anyone thinks about my rig. I think I heard you mention that rigs are built not bought which is true. Take care,
This was great! I’ve been an off-roader for almost 25 years and I started making videos simply to counteract what the other RUclipsrs are doing (I wheel stock, use a ground tent, have basic gear, but hit the same or harder trails than they do [hi guys!]). Lol, great minds think a like, I do beer ratings too… but I use them as my ultra scientific trail roughness rating (foam amount) for my guides. Good stuff.
@@coloradomallcrawlers you do have a very cool channel there. My channel started out doing Hiking videos that I retired and went full-time on the road in my jeep. So I’m just an old guy living the simple life, exploring America and Canada all by myself. I’m just living the dream now.
Being true to self in all we do... keep it simple and EnJoyable! No headaches with "stuff." Thanks, as always, for sharing!
Yes, yes yes just be true yourself and live this simple life.
Thank you.
You’re welcome
John great video and so nice to meet you! There is one thing about Expo I do l like more than anything, being able to meet new people. Yeah the Earthroamers and the like are for the millionaires among us who will never use them, but I have made a lot of friends at these events. Happy Trails! ......p.s. I used to have an XJ and loved it!
It was good to meet you there too, and it was fun talking Fly Fishing. When I’m camping at the expos that’s when I meet a lot of people. The Price is to camp at these expos are getting way too expensive now. Remember, it’s the journey and the people you meet along the way is the most important. I love my XJ I could never give it up.
My old cummins thakes me and my tent caming any where i dare to go lol You are spot on about these overland expo's
@@JoeHill-r3r hey Joe I have spent many many years sleeping in a tent and I miss it. It seems now that you have to take out a loan just to get outside and do some camping.
Greetings John. Another lovely adventure. Keep enjoying life. Have awonderful day.
Thanks man hopefully a lot more adventures coming up.
@@overthehillandoverthemount2925 My Pleasure.
serious “old man yells at clouds” vibe…and I love it! I’ve taken my old Jetta into more backcountry than those earth roamers could even access, but I do love a good 270 awning, and IPAs. your rant earned a new subscriber.
@@idahoverland_208 who you calling an old man I’m still a kid. Lol 😆 don’t know how they can call a earth Romer and off-road vehicle. It is basically an overpriced expensive class C RV. Thank you for subscribing and welcome aboard my channel.
Love that you keep it real.
Hey Troy i’d like to keep it real. Hope all is well.
I used to sleep in my suv as well but now with kids and their car seats being absolutely massive these days I had to opt for a roof top tent. I do miss the simplicity of getting out on my own and sleeping in my vehicle but we have a lot of fun in my 2011 Xterra that didn't cost me an arm and a leg just to get out camping. Keep up the good work!
Yes, it’s just all about getting out having fun. Maybe with the kids and the wife maybe you should buy earth Romer for $1.5 million. Lol
@@overthehillandoverthemount2925 🤣
So happy to see you're in my home state. We'll make you an honorary Oregonian.
Thanks man, I got a lot of exploring to do here in Oregon and a lot of rivers to fly fish in.
Just back from two days of camping out of my truck, pretty bare bones outfit. You are100% on your rant. I did have a pretty good day chasing trout. Rivers are still really high, hope they start slowing soon.
That is awesome. I hope you caught some trout. Being outside is what makes you happy not your vehicle. The rivers are still quite high where I’m at too.
That is awesome. I hope you caught some trout. Being outside is what makes you happy not your vehicle. The rivers are still quite high where I’m at too.
I just listened to a cranky old man for 10 minutes crap over every version of overlanding except exactly the way he does it. In reality, it's good to have a dissenting opinion and you're probably terrific to hang out with and I hope RUclips sends more of your videos my way. See you on the trails!
@@canyonoverland5003 cranky old man 😱. Lol I am definitely a lot of fun to hang out with. This is definitely my opinion and seems like there’s a lot of people that agree with me. Keep an eye out for my jeep on the trail and we will hang out.
OTH&OTM... Make Overlanding Great Again 😅
I couldn’t agree with you more.
Great video about "overlanding" lol - thanks for sharing!
We gotta stop saying Overlanding because it means nothing nowadays and call ourselves adventure seekers
Hey John great video.
Thanks, Dan I’m glad you enjoyed it.
Yes sir John, I agree with you. Easy and simple is a lot more fun. Happy 4th of July.
Hey Jim, happy Fourth of July, as they say, KISS keep it simple stupid. That’s how you enjoy life.
The more money you spend the more overlanding you can do,these people that actually travel the back country , they are not over landing! Thanks for another interesting video
You definitely do not have to spend the money just to go in the backcountry. They are definitely not overlanding.
I personally never use the term "overlanding", I call it vehicle based camping, nothing else. Been camping out of vehicles since the mid-1970s and a trip I took to fish, explore, etc...in 1980 to Alaska put in my mind what I wanted for the type of traveling/camping I do. I do what I do to fish, hunt, rock-hound/prospect and back in the day, to trap fur, in out of the way places. I personally have a vehicle that you would probably lump into "not necessary" but then again, it checks all the boxes from my nearly a year long period of living out of my vehicle in Alaska over 40 years ago and is the first one I have come across that basically "checks all the boxes". It is extremely off road capable (built on a 2023 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon) and extremely easy to set up camp while being very comfortable and secure (it has an Alu-Cab Canopy Camper). I have camped in vehicles built like yours, but it always took more time to move stuff around, lay out my bed, etc....and it worked, but it was not that comfortable in the long run and I always had to go solo. I have often had wives (yeah, been married a few times) or girl friends that liked to go with me from time to time and I needed a different set up. I actually had my first roof top tent back in the early 1980s, they have been around since the 1950s when road tripping became a recreational thing. I am on the verge of being retired now that I am in my mid-60s and will be doing like you do a good bit of the time, so I built a comfortable camping vehicle that is new and reliable and yeah, it weren't cheap, but in the scope of things, it was not that expensive either considering what new vehicles cost now. I have been to a few expos now, and I do buy stuff at them, almost always for storage or comfort while on the road. I have purchased chairs, etc....that take up very little space but it is almost always camping equipment or travel equipment. I do like some of the vehicles, but they ain't why I go.
Sounds like you had a very interesting life. We all have our different levels of comfort. I’m 69 years old and I’m pretty comfortable still in my jeep. Maybe next year when I’m 70, I may want something a little bit more comfortable. (Maybe)I think rooftop tents have been around since the 30s. I think the bottom line is you do what makes you happy and don’t become a slave to social media telling you what’s gonna make you happy.
The Overland ExpNO! Beautiful breakdown as always. Pavement princess lol. Keep on keeping on my man. Cheers!
Hey Steve, there’s a lot of pavement princesses in New Jersey. It’s all about trying to look bad ass.
Great video and agree 💯. These are vendor consumer shows. They have their place but should be called something else. Simple exploration and the adventure of travel is what im about
Yep, you’re absolutely right. I’m giving up the word overlanding and calling myself an adventure seeker. Lol
Agreed
Yep seems like a lot of other people agreed too
@overthehillandoverthemount2925 we all spend money. And it takes a small fortune to live out of a car. But when you buy because facebook told you or it's a symbol of status for you, I'm no longer interested. And that's what most of these expos are. And 90% of youtube are the pushers of it.
I was thinking last night as I lay on a tarp and mat under the stars in my yard staring at my Camper, 4 jeeps built for travel, overland trailer, ect......... Where is my backpack? Really all I need is a vehicle to get me outdoors and my backpack! All this other shit is just hoopla......
You are absolutely right about that. Back in the day when I was doing a lot of backpacking, that’s when I was the happiest when I was outside with nothing.
@@overthehillandoverthemount2925 absolutely!
My estimate based on talking to hundreds of people who say they are "overlanders" or they "overland" with their rig are simply camping. People like to use the latest catchphrases to sound cool, but in reality, they don't have a clue what they are talking about. And yes, I agree 100% with most of what is said in this video.
@@8654ZuluFoxtrot you got that right with that brother. Sometimes I just look at it as free entertainment. Lol
John, you are getting close to my neighborhood, Oregon. Your campground looks like the terrain near Sisters. If you are there, you must fish the Metolious. It is not an easy river to fish, but the location is fabulous.
I was definitely up by sisters and man It’s dusty up there. I will definitely be hitting the Metolius and a lot of other rivers around Oregon.
@@overthehillandoverthemount2925 May I recommend the Wallowa River up by Minam. There is a nice Oregon State campground in that vicinity, right along the river. Have fun.
@@nonewherelistens1906 thanks man. I’m definitely gonna look that one up. I’m out here in Oregon trying to find all the fishing spots I can.
@@nonewherelistens1906 thanks man. I’m definitely gonna look that one up. I’m out here in Oregon trying to find all the fishing spots I can.
Those folks are attracted to bright shiny things.
I think that’s pretty funny but it’s sad that it’s so true.
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Thanks 😁
Cheers
Thanks cheers to you
I was there. So expensive. I was sitting in the trail hunter and a woman got in and said the seats were like her Bentley!
Lol that says it all. Maybe she’s got a rooftop tent on that Bentley. 😝
True story.
It absolutely happened exactly as Vic described...
@@largemarge1603 I absolutely believe it.
I certainly agree with you. My old and not rusty (Az) 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee does everything I need it to do. And under 150k. I only paid 5k for it 10 years ago. 👍👍
Holy crap you have an old Jeep with no rust on it, God bless you, brother. I got 328,000 miles on my jeep and it definitely has rust. Just keep it simple and have fun.
Johnny boy how have you been. Loving the videos. Still in jersey also got married
Hey Alex, congratulations but why the hell did you do that. Lol there is a better chance of me going back to New Jersey then it is for me to get married again.
@@overthehillandoverthemount2925 John she's a good woman.
@@overthehillandoverthemount2925 And also treats me with respect which a BIG plus in my book
Those there are for the vasectomy crowd. "If I'm gonna be impotent, I'm gonna look impotent." LOL
The best thing to be is low-key and stop worrying about what everybody thinks of you
It was hard to tell what some booths were pedaling. The display vehicles were so decked out with everything i couldn't tell what was being sold. Last year earthroamer rigs were giving private tours, this year i didn't really see anyone at their booth. Pretty much done with the expo personally.
I definitely agree with you. There wasn’t one thing that looked interesting or that I wanted to buy.
LOL! I wanted to do a similar video after I went to Overland East last year. I went in aiming for a video of "What is overlanding?" and left with "Am I An Expo Kid?" ... but I actually loved it regardless. We all do it different. I'm more "Softroading the East" meets "Dayhikers Anonymous" than I am Busted Knuckes but I still have a good time. Check me out! I enjoyed your rant!
I was at the Overland Expo east over five years ago. (The mudfest) there is not much over landing or exploring in the East Coast. There is a lot of hiking there. It’s not always about going down tough rugged roads. I have done 30 mile roads into the back woods without seeing anybody and these roads any car could probably drive down but it’s still a cool adventure.
Subscribe and Like my friend. A good channel.😉 Many greetings from the Franken Travelers.🤗
@@FrankenTravelers thanks man and thank you for subscribing and welcome aboard my channel.
You nailed it🎯, my friend. !👍🏼😎Overlanding is so not about all the expensive gear and gadgets. It’s borderline ridiculous. You end up futzing around with all your stuff and not enjoying the outdoors.
I do not think most of those people really do not know how to really enjoy the outdoors. They’re too busy about all the gear they know and looking bad ass to impress everybody then to just enjoy and have fun.
I decided that I can't go overlanding because I have a 9-5. I decided that I like to camp and run trails. I know that I would love to overland but it's just not what I have time to do in my life. I chose to buy a 2003 nissan Xterra. I got the supercharged model for a little extra power. I started by sleeping in the back. Then, I chose to get a bushwacker teardrop trailer. It's got a little ground clearence, it's small and light. I make a camp, then I go offroading to remote places. If I decide to camp in remote places, I just leave the trailer home and go drive there. The Xterra came with a small lift (2") and I put Falken all terrains on it because I'm no rock crawler. I decided to get a snorkel for all the dirt I drive on up here in the summer (northwest) and all the times I had to change my air filter from dust. I go out about every other weekend, all year round. I work on my own stuff. I recently rebuilt the kitchen in my trailer and my starter is getting changed this weekend. all of that is to say, I'm no overlander, and I'm sure people will judge my setup, but I thought about what I wanted to do and what I could do, and I've built it.
I think what you’re doing is absolutely awesome. It’s all about getting out there doing what you wanna do and having fun. It looks like you haven’t become a slave to social media, telling everybody what they have to have. It is cool that you’re that your working and building your own stuff. I see so many people saying they’re building out their rig, but they just give it to a shop and They have everything built for them. Have fun out there.
@overthehillandoverthemount2925 hell yeah! It's why I follow you. You just do your thing, and it's inspiring. If you're ever up in north eastern washington, I have a fly fishing spot for you to check out. P.S. you inspired me to pick up fly fishing last year.
@@DR-ge8hp that is so awesome. I’m so happy I can inspire people. I have fished up in Washington and drove along route 12 and fished a lot of the streams there.
@@overthehillandoverthemount2925 Well, Granite falls on the east side (not the west side) and Granite Creek is epic. It's basically on the border of Idaho/Washington.
I learned the same thing two years ago. It might be a good place to look at a camper or something in person but most of the vehicles just look like they’re owned by people from socal who are headed for sema with not much practical use in mind.
@@johnwalker3263 you’re absolutely right about that. If you are looking for a off-road vehicle with just the basic stuff to get out there you probably will not find them at these shows.
You got that right……expensive!
@@garretlewis4103 yep 👍
It's a joke watching these rich people with their huge rigs. They miss the whole point. Much like most of the weekend warriors I see hiking in the whites. I bought a 2004 ford f150 4 wheel drive with a six and a half foot bed. I bought a fiberglass cap with 3 windows. I put in a plywood foor with carpet I hand made a bed, kitchen area and storage. I use greenies to cook and heat. Cooler with ice. I even have a setup for a toilet. Like you I did it all myself without even thinking of going online. Total cost for the truck $4500. The used cap $500. And $300 to build it out. It's spacious and comfortable. I have camped in it for weeks at a time and can go anywhere in all seasons. I wouldn't change it for anything. Freedom baby!!!
@@paulhoffman5054 vehicles like ours does give us more freedom to do what we want and to go where we want. Way back in the 60s I had a Ford F150 with a cap and I camped all over the place with that. Just because you have an expensive built out 4 x 4 rig doesn’t mean you’re living the dream. Lol
It's about selling stuff to people who have no money and don't need any of it. A fad. Especially $5000 top tents.
@@markjacobs3956 a lot of these people have never been camping before so they are clueless so when they go to these expos all they see is expensive high-end stuff and then a good salesman comes along and within five minutes they’re in debt.
Says the guy with a $600 Starlink setup
@@bradjames3273 says the guy that probably has $100,000 pavement princess.
@@overthehillandoverthemount2925 $200,000
200,000, I’m no peasant
“Vehicle based, adventure travel” that’s Overlanding.
Sure some think they need more than others, but stop the nonsense
@@jdelso916 yep it won’t be too long when every overlander with a rooftop tent will have a big screen TV in there. Lol
"Overlanding" is the most pretentious name in the world.
It’s all about the money and greed and what they can get people to spend money on.