Servicing Haldex (AWD) System on Golf R - DIY
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I would recommend also removing the pump and cleaning the inlet screen. Mines was badly choked with black sludge and the car only had 40k miles on it.
Apart from the discussion on whether changing the filter or not .The vid is very good thanks to clear explainations. I LIKE IT BYE DUDE.
Great production and very informative, RUclips and the community need content creators like yourself!
Kudos on letting people know to remove the fill bolt first. I was waiting to see if you mentioned it or not unlike some other videos.
Great job -- bookmarked for future reference! I appreciate the fact that you didn't edit out the minor goofs... gives viewers a chance to avoid repeating them. Will be monitoring your channel in case you ever post a DIY on the filter replacement based on some of the comments.
Thank you posting this vid! Saves me lot of money! Def servicing my car on my own.
Finely going to get my limestone gray golf R
Great video man .One thing i would say is it really is essential to remove and clean or replace the filter as it can get clogged up over time and cause the haldex to fail
Great vid man. And good on you to include the required gear in the links. Only thing may be is have some safety glasses on, particularly with pressurised fluids. Excellent how to video
A good way to explain what you're doing when you start the car up and let the oil flow is you are priming the system
U did that nice and quick very helpful vid I will be doing this soon thanks bro👍👍
nice video mate well done
Generation V Haldex system fitted to these cars, has no true filter for the oil - just a strainer. In my experience, it clogs up quickly & benefits from a strip & clean. The pump itself has a commutator & brushes, which again benefit from a clean out - its very easy to do & worth the minimal extra effort when changing the oil there are jus 2 fasteners to remove for the pump & an O ring seal which is usually fine to go back in unless you are rough when extracting the pump. O ring is cheap & readily available
I just traded my 2017 GTI Autobahn for a 2018 Golf R dog 7spd. I love how it drives it's so smooth, unless in race mode. I have the new head unit and digital display. I wasn't cracked on the fishes being digital but I have grown to like it. I'm going to have the stage 1 Apr tune shortly. Love your Vids!
Super useful video, thank you!
This video is highly recomended
There are M6x1.0 threaded fill hole adapters in that fluid pump tool. I used the short M6 when filling my Haldex.
I just looked and yes theres an adapter but there was enough clearance for you to use it? Also, what's your procedure to prevent overfilling if you have something threaded in that is black and you can't see the fluid overflowing?
zed4me I used the short adapter and had enough room. There are two M6 adapters (one long and one short).
Overflow is recommended fill method. Once you do the initial fill (overfill) you pull the fill tool out and all extra (overfill) spills out. Once it is done flowing out the fluid level is at proper volume. All assuming vehicle is level like you showed.
Bryan Green makes sense. I just didn't want it overfilled so much that a lot of oil drips out. But you are correct and I'm glad you pointed that out. One of the biggest reasons I love posting videos on RUclips is the information I learn from viewers. Thank you for the info!
Good job!!!!
Excellent video :)
I would keep a separate pump for brake fluid if I did use any of those. That stuff can mess with the seals in various things.
I have a giant syringe with a fuel pipe for such jobs. After each use I rip it, clean with WD-40 or similar including the pipe, then I wash everything with warm soapy water. The rubber rings on the syringe are removed for washing too. Once fully dry I put it back together & it's ready to use for whatever fluid.
FANTASTIC, at last someone who knows how to do the job properly. Even the WS manual says to fill via the drain hole. How stupid is that? Have now subscribed to your channel as you obviously know what you are talking about. Well done.
Thanks, good information.
What was moving in the rear diff with the car idling stationary? I don’t no anything about that diff but I don’t think running the engine with the car sitting still will make the fluid circulate. There is probably an electric motor that applies a coupling or clutch like mechanism which then spins the ring gear and then the axles.
You can even change it a little sooner if you want to keep the car longer. Sometimes it helps
The gen 5 system is different from previous. Haldex engages rear drive even when front wheels still have traction, doesn’t wait for front slipping before directing drive to the rear.
In theory, yeah.. but there are plenty of videos showing front wheel sleep, although much less than previously, before the rear wheels are engaged.
Not speaking about launch control, which I think is proactive like what you're saying.
Another great vid - DSG next!?
Do you pull most of your knowledge on these things from RUclips?
At 40k yep! Will probably reach that next summer sometime. I read the forums a lot and sometimes use RUclips. I find RUclips generally good for certain procedures and reading with pictures good for other things.
good job
That is highly recommended yet it does not have an adapter that fits?
The crush washer should be replaced but what's your rationale for the plug?
Did u have ur OEM resonator deleted then put the OEM back on? Coz I noticed ur resonator is clamped at the exhaust on the rear section of the resonator
Thanks!
What about the filter seen the filters after 30k and they are cakes in sludge
Hi. Do you know if 2013 Audi TT / MK2 has the same system? I bought it with 45K and now it is at 50K, RR driveshaft seal is actually sweating, no oil drops but area is somewhat oily. If I am going to get my hands dirty, I should probably change both seals as other one likely not too far behind the sweating one, and might as well change fluid since it will need to be checked/topped off, makes sense just replace all of it, in my opinion.
Thanks.
Whats Is the brand and model of your torque wrench. I plan on doing this myself but don't have the tools yet. I have a 2015 Audi A3. I'm fairly certain it's the same haldex unit. I'll do a little more research on it, but for now i just want to get the tools. Thanks
I bought a new 2018 Golf R DSG!!!! I'm back!
The Car Crazy Guy does your center console open?
sorry to hear that buddy.. its a $6k clutch job lol. my ass still hurts from that
Whats the colour code for your golf r?
Can I just use a normal cheap hand operated pump?
This haldex model have not filter?
What do YOU think? - what should be the interval for changing the oil in Haldex V when driving a sporty car like Golf R? I am not asking what producer say about it as producers always want us to leave some money in their service workshops.
It's best to do it as per service interval specified by VW.
god job bro
Does this apply to the VW R32 as well?
electrical taping yes
Good video, but everyone must wear safety glasses when they are underneath vehicles. Especially if they are looking upward and expecting nasty fluids to be dropping.
Which way is he looking
guys did someone know it's passat cc 3.6 4motion its a same i mean is a haldex ssystem on it ?
Why go that far and not clean the pump screen? 🤦🏻♂️
Half a job Zed, that filter really does need to be cleaned. Also, this same process can be applied to PP GTI’s.
If you dont change the filter or clean it at least youll end up with a very large bill.The gunked up filter will starve the pump of oil and terminate it,you have been warned.
Good
Why should the Haldex oil turn unclear/dark/black? Where does the contamination come from, in this closed system?
TheAlapalooza wear and tear plus any burning of the oil from abuse could turn the oil dark
Steel wearing in microscopic particles will make oil grey/black
There is a clutch like coupling that locks the diff. That’s the junk that people find in the filter.
You should have remove the pump and clean the filter, dirty filter can damage the pump.
Need how to service dsg please
New video on that is up
It does apply to the GTI with performance pack ediff. It's a maintenance item in Europe but not for North America apparently. Still gonna change mine though.
What? Dude the gti is fwd
im pretty sure i have the confidence to do this now, great tutorial. im definitely mechanically inclined but still have a fear of fucking something up in this ~3 month old expensive used car lol
just hit 30 in a manual too, which i already knew the interval of 30000
Question. I have a 2013 Mk 6 with 20000 miles. And I am pretty sure this has never been done, would you suggest doing it based on time alone? And not reaching 30k?
Don't think anyone can give you the right answer but I think the manual has the time/mileage interval to change the fluid. I think something like five years 30k miles so maybe it's time to change it.
@@zed4me awesome thanks for the reply!
i dig the wheels, been looking for a set for winter. brand and model?
dorkultra neuspeed rse10 18x8.5"
dorkultra
I have the same wheels... Too nice for winter. I use old Audi wheels off of Craigslist for winter.
just looked them up, yep you're right
I could only get about 200 ML of fluid into my Haldex before it started dripping out of the fill hole. I need help! I own a mk6 golf r
sorry, this is an old post but you possibly drained and filled rear differential with Haldex fluid. Rear diff and haldex system, while in the same box, have different oils.
Roman D nah i filled the Haldex, just had to change up the angle of the pump and kept pumping even tho a little bit of fluid kept dripping. Eventually it started pouring out of the fill hole so I figured it was full.
That level was not even close to level .
but the bubble
This is the same procedure for a 2016 Audi A3 with quattro AWD, yes?
Yukon Echo a3 doesn’t have Quattro it has this system
the audi a3 has quattro, i have a 2015 Audi A3 Quattro so the procedure is the same
Y U NO CLEAN PUMP HOUSING AND SOCK??
So it looks like this can be done on your own for $100 I’m guessing the dealer would charge $200ish?
Why did you put the resonator back on? I took mine off and love it that way.
At right around 3k rpm and 75-80mph there is a change in valve timing that causes a drone. That's the speed I cruise often on the highway so it got annoying after a year or two
zed4me I think you’re just getting old... 👽
@@stevebbkny2394 what's wrong with that? 😁
zed4me I think the stock muffler breaks in and gets louder over time. This could be another factor that made you re-install the resonator. Have you considered electric exhaust cutouts? Best of both worlds.
@@stevebbkny2394 certainly have considered those and actually have a set that is boost activated so that it's only loud when you get on it. Only issue with the electric ones if that I haven't found one that is reliable, I don't want it breaking in the winter time especially with new York salty winters. The boost activated one I haven't installed because I could see scenarios where I wouldn't want it to be loud even when stepping on it.
can this fluid work with the 2015 Audi s3 8V
Yes, same haldex unit.
Am I right there is no filter and just a screen?
screen is what they mean by the filter.. there is no replicable filter to say, screen comes with pump. but is good to clean the screen.
Yeah news flash….clean the damn pump. It’s the source of clutch failure. The back half of the unit also gets a gear oil change.
The oil you used in your differential is haldex oil not differential oil!
so you only need one bottle of the fluid ?
That is correct
@@zed4me thanks i will do it on my R, i might use a huge seringe to fill the oil.
So only 1L max?
My r32 04 has 100k I just found out about this.
My mechanic never said a word, and I was just had my car serviced at the VW dealership!
e val79 haha does it use haldex? That's really bad
zed4me yeah!!
I found out about this a week ago. I have the oil and filter that I picked up from Audi, cause it’s the same the system TT uses .
Not many people know about this and VW sucks at letting people know. They probably don’t care.
My cousin who knows about mechanics and owned a few VWs w this system didn’t know either. Or they know but don’t think it’s a big deal.
@@eval7952dealer also told me don't worry about it lol
Don’t ever change the oil this way. ALWAYS remove the pump and drain the oil/clean the gauze. In less than 20k your gauze has a high chance of being blocked rendering an oil change a total waste of money.
weld it. no more oil.. you should change filter before add new oil... I know even VW service men dont know where is it. but it got one.. you could find it from ebay--
Haldex 111358
there is no filter on haldex gen 5, like the one in this video
All these people criticizing telling you what you missed, if you already know how to do it so well why are you watching a tutorial? lol
It only bothers me when they come off like they are better than you, otherwise I welcome the knowledge. You right though lol
No jack stands is dangerous brother it's not wise to trust those plastic ramps, even if you don't have jack stands use some blocks or even your car jack as backup take care.
Shimon these are metal ramps and I haven’t seen these fail before unless they were overloaded
zed4me OK well I have a buddy who had a bad experience with the metal ones he wasn't under the vehicle though so some food for thought.
But does the Haldex guts spin when the engine is running but the wheels aren't turning? If not, how does that help the fluid settle?
tkorocky pump engages when the car is turned on each time during a system check
Cool, I didn't know that
I was thinking it was a mechanical pump, not an electric one
How much oil was left over?
laznsher maybe like 100-200ml
Service interval is every 3 years.
Should really have removed the pump and cleaned the gauze filter. These are known to become clogged up causing the pump / Haldex to fail.
ScotchEgg where do you see service internal every 3 years?
It's in VWs maintenance guide. Should be listed in the maintenance manual that came with the car if not dealer can print one out
Mark Harris I see it as every 30k miles not every 3 years
3yrs regardless or 30k. Can't post the screen shot.
You dont have to remove the pump. Just the filter above and change it.
Why didn't you get a manual?
Because he wanted a fast car. Duh.
*ALRIGHT, SO*
Hey man. Protect your eyes while working. No one knows what happen to you. Looks dangerous:(
In next 20k miles you will fry you haldex electric controller and eventually pump, just because you didn't unbolted pump and cleaned little white gauze strainer...do it now so it will get a lot cheaper for you and show it on video how dirty it was and thank us all. Have a nice day.
This guy is in med school. Hopefully he does a more thorough job when it comes to his patients. Haha
im definately gonna just let VW do this service to take it to german performance options in nashville lol fuck this
I like doing work on my car to gain experience/knowledge but I draw the line at crawling under my car on ramps :O I'd rather pay someone with a hoist and is a mechanic :)
Haldex gen.5 ??? ruclips.net/video/Jv_C97nq0n8/видео.html
He doesn’t know how to use a level
haldex sucks; torsen that's a thing!