the way mulan played the first 2 waves , is why we need a video on how to play level 1/2. It always seems to be where people mess up most and jsut get snowballed on.
Go for archers over melee, get your warrior blessings procs but make sure to reset agro from wave so you don’t tank the whole wave, don’t miss blue or any minions from first few waves, know your matchup, Not the best player here but I’m pretty successful when I follow those basic rules.
Level 1-3 are my favorite parts of solo especially 1 to 2 because its like the only time people are actually able to be killed in lane if they play passively the whole game
shame man, when that mulan sent you the "is this bullying :(" msg i kinda felt sorry for her....don't worry mulan, its not you that are bad, its just FineO that is too good, a good learning experience for you.
PTS doesn't really differentiate people so silvers can play with grandmasters. I generally feel the enemy team was just unlucky because they were just newer players, I base this on the fact that only 1 person from their entire team actually built antiheal and it wasn't even Mulan
Every game of yours I watch I learn something new. This time it was when you called out when you thought the mulan would be using her abilities (i.e. using 3 to try and pull you into tower, her ults). It's so easy to be reactive and not think actively about what your opponent might do next.
I was just feeling like hot shit with my Arthur combos, came in here and got HUMBLED by those graceful dances of death and destruction you do with this character😂
He was playing casuals against someone that doesn’t know how to play against Arthur. It probably felt good in this game but against an actual team he may be dead
@@yessercristo8527 stop it lol soul eather is never good on Arthur nothing can replace glad sheild soul eather has more healing now but less power so you heal for the same amount because the healing is based of percentage of you damage so less damage equals less healing it's nice but not good soul eater is good on pele and some ability based hunters because they can build more damage and heal more from distance
@@gamingowl7422 the only reason its a suggestion is because without Glad, Arthur has no sustain. We need to see it competitively, but the amount of healing he had while fighting in a minion wave was definitely something to look at.
What do you think solo lane is gonna be like now? With change to berserk and glad and pen being op. You think building damage more and less tank in solo is what’s gonna happen?
Man at like 8:00 when you kill her, the speed of the sequence of those abilities is crazy for someone like me who plays on a 130-150 ping constantly. Thats literally impossible on my ping.
Good to see Arthur is still alive but then too not getting that satisfaction of glad sheild.........Thankyou Fineokay for the updates of the game.....we will be waiting for such more videos like this.....😉👍🏻
I thought he would be dead when I saw the gladiators change, I guess he's not. I'm happy, honestly, I like the god even though I know he's op as shit he's fun to use
That's the worst thing about King Arthur; he's so oppressive, but his kit is so much fun to play. Hell, his mirror matchup is one of the most fun mirrors to play, it's like an epic slap fight.
@@GeminiOrion9 I specially remember 2 games, one against a tyr (and I main tyr) where I thought man, he can't do anything against Arthur, it's just stupid I counter him so hard, and another game where I got (obviously) smashed early by a hades, and at lvl 7, I only had gladiators, he already had bancrofts, and I tanked his ult while I was at 25%,comebacked and killed him. That's one of those moments when you notice that there's something wrong with a god
It is because of the misconception that if glad shield dies that he will die, his damage and movement is undeniably cancer, glad shield just made him even more cancer
Is rat solo going to be really strong with the new acorn (I forgot it’s name) that heals for 7% on god hit with abilities and the I think it’s 15% additional max health
@@Glacierez05 Since he has assassin stats, not really. He's not going to be as scary as Arthur, Cu, Tyr or Camazotz in lane, and the tanky acorns only helps him for solo. He might do okay, but 7% isn't big enough when you consider it's only once per ability. Whereas you have Arthur and Cu who can heal for like 300hp on a wave of minions and have tons of ability damage, or Cama who can fullheal with soul eater, or Tyr who can sit in defense stance and fullheal ever 4 seconds. Oh, and he has no way to deal with knockup, has rough lane clear, and gets bullied badly by *every* lane bully in solo even with those acorn heals.
Its obviously very match up dependant (as solo lane is). But even if you go against a God with a damaging ability with hard cc (like Achilles). You still get healed for the damage that the ability does so it's not a complete loss. I've gone golden blade into stone cutting and I find myself out trading the other physical solo laner rather consistently as long as you use the 3 properly and use the 1 to dodge abilities. I really dont think its horrible actually. After stone cutting I go into boots and some defense but the build is still more damage focused. Shoguns/toxic blade/frost bound are great items for her to use in solo
Arthur is not as broken as people see. He get countered by CC immensly espicially in late game he doesn t bring that much to the table. And gods like anubis totally demolishes him adding the late game anti heals and magicians, there are times you are man down even in teamfights. Although i acknowledge that he s a lane bully and works good against nearly all warriors when played correctly. But burst damage destroys him so gods that can be played in solo lane that are assas. wins most of the time against him of course i m talking about bot sides playing equally. İmo he s late game need to be reworked in respect to that he s early game needs to be nerfed a little. But since he s a god that doesnt have burst damage in late game and needs a long time to finish of a target, he will always be weak in late game. Best way to win games with him is demolish solo lane and gang other lanes get kills and that finishes mist of the matches.
I mean bancrofts and fang are pretty niche and can’t be abused on every god like glad shield could in solo, as well as the fact that gladshield makes getting kills in lane hard near impossible if both of you play safe. It’s made several gods Kings of the meta since the item came out almost 3 years ago.
Joe Steve that’s because people flat out refuse to build antiheal/ counter build in my opinion. Also, hi Rez needs to revamp their items. This wouldn’t be a problem if their was a bigger selection
king Iceman Sometimes there’s not a slot in the build for antiheal because you need to get better teamfight online fast, glad shield has removed kill potential if you want to be able to have a tankier teamfight in the mid game. Hi-Rez adding more items isn’t going to be a solution, hirez has been adding items forever but very few have changed the meta. We got talisman of energy, ring of Hecate, atalanta’s silverbranch, etc, all of which are not used because there’s always an optimal build. Adding more items is not a solution.
Eh, as a current Arthur main seeing this update in action with him and not being able to play on the test server. This kinda changes my mind a good bit.
Oh god Arthur requires so much skills. 7 abilites he cant miss and 4 movement abilites. One of each cc and debuff in the game. Immune to slow and knockup. Impossible to run away from. Does the most damage in the entire game of all the physical gods. Always one ability up. Op Aa chancels. Why cant they just give him 7 global executes that kills all enemy gods and minions that has less than 100% hp
lori lamere wHaT nO wAY?!?! Oh wait I read the notes and knew that already. I was pointing out that it’s kinda sad that the cheap sustain item meta for solo isn’t actually changing.
Glads and berserker shields got completely changed and now they don't provide healing. So gods like arthur who abused glad shield can't do it anymore and the question has become if soul eater can replace.
Bro imagine you’re hyped to try Mulan on PTS with new warriors and no more glad so you’re feeling really good with her 2 and then you see you’re against Fine KA. My deepest sympathies
Mackem A Cuppa No they’re playing on a Play Test Server of the game. This is done when there are patches so that they can try to find bugs and make balance decisions based on actual player data. If you play on PC you can download PTS
Okay I looked it up it could be Fineo-"King Arthur still carrie's ranked" or a SolodoubleJ, this other person's video, one of those three influenced by a Deja vu, feeling.
the way mulan played the first 2 waves , is why we need a video on how to play level 1/2. It always seems to be where people mess up most and jsut get snowballed on.
This please!!
It's my biggest issue. I'm fine in solo if I make it late, but all it takes is a small slip between 1-3 and it can get bad.
Go for archers over melee, get your warrior blessings procs but make sure to reset agro from wave so you don’t tank the whole wave, don’t miss blue or any minions from first few waves, know your matchup, Not the best player here but I’m pretty successful when I follow those basic rules.
Level 1-3 are my favorite parts of solo especially 1 to 2 because its like the only time people are actually able to be killed in lane if they play passively the whole game
Or at least thats how it used to feel
"This is a good matchup for Mulan, she probably bullys the heck out of me", that didn't age well.
Mulan should. Fineokay was just better than that mulan
Nice agility lvl
I feel for that poor mulan DEEP in my soul.
deep in your soul eater
shame man, when that mulan sent you the "is this bullying :(" msg i kinda felt sorry for her....don't worry mulan, its not you that are bad, its just FineO that is too good, a good learning experience for you.
JP Rheeder well it doesnt help that person is using mulan against a King arthur
Shanny Salcedo Mulan wins the early game against a King Arthur even pre gladshield patch
@@shannysalcedo3627 mulan wins that lane
* its just FroggyFine that is too good *
PTS doesn't really differentiate people so silvers can play with grandmasters. I generally feel the enemy team was just unlucky because they were just newer players, I base this on the fact that only 1 person from their entire team actually built antiheal and it wasn't even Mulan
Lol the way he laughs and says "Dude I love frogs" is a perfect example of what makes FineO such a wholesome streamer.
I'm always insanely impressed with how you play.
This game hurt my soul, but the plays were incredible.
Might I say it ate at your soul
Like a Soul Eater
Finsenator get out
I'm glad I found your channel, the diversity in which gods you play, as well as your commentary are just great!
That poor Mulan...
Fine, please do a new tier lis after mid season, preeeetty pls
Its impossible to tell right now, the whole meta just changed
Basically any solo lanes that have a heal in their kit are automatically higher on the list
@@thenamelessenigma7235 toxic hades mains rise up
I will
@@DudeImFonz you're a king. Pun intended
Arthur never dies. He just comes back more cancer than ever.
I hate Arthur on console so much
For Camelot! For AVALON!!!
To be fair, this enemy team built NO anti-heal and Chiron has very little penetration. I think most warriors would stomp in this case.
@@rickkcir2151 that's true
Hail to the king!
Right as I was about to sleep, FineO comes out with an upload with a game I missed from stream. Looks like we ruin sleep schedules together...
What can be good option for the final item? Nice video!👌🏼
Hey Fineo, what solo laners do you think will dominate the meta after the mid season changes?
5:53 is an absolute baller play that was so sick
I just subscribed just cause of your sportsmanship and wholesomeness love the content man
Fineokay I have a doubt , these shields are now tier 3 item then most probably in this season TYR will be mostly picked in games and also for bans??
Every game of yours I watch I learn something new. This time it was when you called out when you thought the mulan would be using her abilities (i.e. using 3 to try and pull you into tower, her ults). It's so easy to be reactive and not think actively about what your opponent might do next.
I was just feeling like hot shit with my Arthur combos, came in here and got HUMBLED by those graceful dances of death and destruction you do with this character😂
Hey Fine! After testing out all the new changes, could you make a new tier list.
Btw. im a console player, so i cannot test them out myself yet
He can’t exactly make one until some time passes. Seeing what builds pop up, how god’s perform with certain items, etc. Just be patient, dude
So would you say getting SE first is better or void shield first?.
"Maybe arthur isnt dead "
16/0/3
He was playing casuals against someone that doesn’t know how to play against Arthur. It probably felt good in this game but against an actual team he may be dead
Idk man soul eater is just too good on him rn , its not like any solo laner is gonna build antiheal before atleast 15 minutes
@@yessercristo8527 stop it lol soul eather is never good on Arthur nothing can replace glad sheild soul eather has more healing now but less power so you heal for the same amount because the healing is based of percentage of you damage so less damage equals less healing it's nice but not good soul eater is good on pele and some ability based hunters because they can build more damage and heal more from distance
I dont remember being able to heal of a wave with glad shield
@@gamingowl7422 the only reason its a suggestion is because without Glad, Arthur has no sustain. We need to see it competitively, but the amount of healing he had while fighting in a minion wave was definitely something to look at.
What do you think solo lane is gonna be like now? With change to berserk and glad and pen being op. You think building damage more and less tank in solo is what’s gonna happen?
So excited for new solo lane changes and new warriors blessing. Going to be so much fun
Man at like 8:00 when you kill her, the speed of the sequence of those abilities is crazy for someone like me who plays on a 130-150 ping constantly. Thats literally impossible on my ping.
christmas came early this year i got a king arthur soul eater vid and didn’t even have to ask? poggers
Haha yes
This build put me back on King Arthur. Thank you. It’s insane even before the update.
Good to see Arthur is still alive but then too not getting that satisfaction of glad sheild.........Thankyou Fineokay for the updates of the game.....we will be waiting for such more videos like this.....😉👍🏻
what other solo lane gods might soul eater be viable on next patch?
you get solo: :D
you play vs king arthur: :|
vs fine's king arthur: :(
FROGGYFINE GETTING THE DOUBLE KILL
I thought he would be dead when I saw the gladiators change, I guess he's not. I'm happy, honestly, I like the god even though I know he's op as shit he's fun to use
That's the worst thing about King Arthur; he's so oppressive, but his kit is so much fun to play. Hell, his mirror matchup is one of the most fun mirrors to play, it's like an epic slap fight.
@@GeminiOrion9 I specially remember 2 games, one against a tyr (and I main tyr) where I thought man, he can't do anything against Arthur, it's just stupid I counter him so hard, and another game where I got (obviously) smashed early by a hades, and at lvl 7, I only had gladiators, he already had bancrofts, and I tanked his ult while I was at 25%,comebacked and killed him. That's one of those moments when you notice that there's something wrong with a god
Arthur isn't busted really he just abused gladshield better than any god.
The turn on rat and Milan when you were in lane =bullied
Would you still choose reinforced greaves over warrior tabi now that they’ll have mana?
Ope forgot this was PTS, my bad bb
Really giving the froggyfine vibes at 0:48
your vids are really useful thank u fineoKING
You can attempt to directly or indirectly kill King Arthur off from the meta, but he still somehow finds a way to crawl up everyone's ass.
It is because of the misconception that if glad shield dies that he will die, his damage and movement is undeniably cancer, glad shield just made him even more cancer
So is glad and beserk shield bad now?
Wow that rat gonna get PTSD from 15:05
Captain stick bug
FinOfrog
Samforsquirrel
Can't tell if OP item or fineO is OP?
I saw the title of this video and cried
Would the new soul eater work on thanatos?
Is rat solo going to be really strong with the new acorn (I forgot it’s name) that heals for 7% on god hit with abilities and the I think it’s 15% additional max health
I feel like that 7% is broken
@@Glacierez05 Since he has assassin stats, not really. He's not going to be as scary as Arthur, Cu, Tyr or Camazotz in lane, and the tanky acorns only helps him for solo. He might do okay, but 7% isn't big enough when you consider it's only once per ability. Whereas you have Arthur and Cu who can heal for like 300hp on a wave of minions and have tons of ability damage, or Cama who can fullheal with soul eater, or Tyr who can sit in defense stance and fullheal ever 4 seconds.
Oh, and he has no way to deal with knockup, has rough lane clear, and gets bullied badly by *every* lane bully in solo even with those acorn heals.
is freya still good tho??
5:45 One does not simply gank a King Arthur.
"Gank? You mean free double kill?"
Hhaha whenever I get ganked enemy jungler I always get a free double kill
Can u try ne zha with new warriors blessing it’s actually busted the amount of damage you can do
Oh this is what I was waiting for!!
As an Arthur main, I feel bleesed
Same
Ratotoskr
Aurthur mains should be imprisoned lol
Who would counter arthur in solo?
You’re really in a league of your own 😂i love watching you play
Ah yes the upload schedule I know and love
Saw this video and thought I’d give it a try. Played against a chu chu with like a million starts. He ended up afk, all using this build
You just played this game. Go to sleep. Also play Nem solo with golden blade and max your 3 xddd.
I've been wanting to try this so bad but I dont wanna get.farmed. is it actually good?
Dr DEPRESSION460 One of the SPL junglers (I forget which one) tried it and said it wasn’t that bad. Probably not ideal but who knows.
Its obviously very match up dependant (as solo lane is). But even if you go against a God with a damaging ability with hard cc (like Achilles). You still get healed for the damage that the ability does so it's not a complete loss.
I've gone golden blade into stone cutting and I find myself out trading the other physical solo laner rather consistently as long as you use the 3 properly and use the 1 to dodge abilities. I really dont think its horrible actually. After stone cutting I go into boots and some defense but the build is still more damage focused. Shoguns/toxic blade/frost bound are great items for her to use in solo
Nice play, you're a beast ❤️
great gameplay. but why they didn't buy anti heals .. just why
Am I sleep deprived? Yes. Did FineO release a video at 5am? Yes. Did I watch it before going to bed? That’s a secret I’ll never tell...
I can't wait to try cu chulainn with soul eater and stone of Gaia without glad shield it'll suck for warriors in solo lane
Now if only I could play like Fineokay
21:53 wtf with that zombie kajshsjs
Can you try set soul eater?
Not only do you have animals in the Ghost team, your duolane is actually called the CareBear duo (at least by me on mixer chat lol)
Sees King Arthur gameplay and wanna play him but Idk how to... Need to learn :)
I agree with mwec, dogokay would be the best choice for your animal name
You are the best solo in the game for sure
15:05 that ares just witnessed a homicide
Arthur is not as broken as people see. He get countered by CC immensly espicially in late game he doesn t bring that much to the table. And gods like anubis totally demolishes him adding the late game anti heals and magicians, there are times you are man down even in teamfights. Although i acknowledge that he s a lane bully and works good against nearly all warriors when played correctly. But burst damage destroys him so gods that can be played in solo lane that are assas. wins most of the time against him of course i m talking about bot sides playing equally. İmo he s late game need to be reworked in respect to that he s early game needs to be nerfed a little. But since he s a god that doesnt have burst damage in late game and needs a long time to finish of a target, he will always be weak in late game. Best way to win games with him is demolish solo lane and gang other lanes get kills and that finishes mist of the matches.
But sadly by the time you get out of the laneing phase that early lead will have a big impact
On paper. Regen rat acorn and soul eater should stack for some nutty heals?
So the logic is, get rid of glad shield for physical; and let magical keep bancrofts and fang🤔. Doesn’t make sense
I mean bancrofts and fang are pretty niche and can’t be abused on every god like glad shield could in solo, as well as the fact that gladshield makes getting kills in lane hard near impossible if both of you play safe. It’s made several gods Kings of the meta since the item came out almost 3 years ago.
Joe Steve that’s because people flat out refuse to build antiheal/ counter build in my opinion. Also, hi Rez needs to revamp their items. This wouldn’t be a problem if their was a bigger selection
king Iceman Sometimes there’s not a slot in the build for antiheal because you need to get better teamfight online fast, glad shield has removed kill potential if you want to be able to have a tankier teamfight in the mid game. Hi-Rez adding more items isn’t going to be a solution, hirez has been adding items forever but very few have changed the meta. We got talisman of energy, ring of Hecate, atalanta’s silverbranch, etc, all of which are not used because there’s always an optimal build. Adding more items is not a solution.
Joe Steve judging from the pros, there’s always room for antiheal. It literally can determine a win vs a loss
Joe Steve I can’t see what you posted
I just did this build in the current game pretty spicy
FOR CAMELOT
FOR AVALON!
That game was ridiculous man.
Saw it live but here I am again :D
I can't seem to counter king Arthur, he's crazy right now in the Solo lane.
Why is the enemy health bar yellow? Are you color blind or just like the color?
Lenny Ward I just like the color
Yo I’m ready for etalus mike, finerano, pandazetterburn, and idk who sam would be
Rat solo lane vid? On the pts
FrogOkay?
come up with your own ideas smh
FineOfrog sounds better
And just when I started feeling a little sorry for the man, I see this. KA's just abuse shit too well lol
A King video at 5 am? Don’t mind if I do
Can we respect that Mulan's name is Cognac lmao.
See but like FineOkay can make anyone look good in the solo lane 😂
Wanna say Fine gained 8 stacks of soul eater at blue buff.
Froggy Fine lookin kinda froggy fresh
Glad shield is gone? Like gone gone or nerfed to the ground?
It’s a pretty different tier 3 item now
completely different passive offers no healing. Same with berserkers.
fineokay so what’s the point of building them and if I was to play Osiris what would be the build to go? 🧐 that would be a good video
@@LuisMorales-zm3ew we gotta wait to see the new builds and options, the cheese, the exploits, the surprising builds. Just wait
Eh, as a current Arthur main seeing this update in action with him and not being able to play on the test server. This kinda changes my mind a good bit.
You like frogs? Hmm. I would've guessed you were more of a turtle kind of guy :P
that yeet build though
I hope we get a King arthur skin from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Finefrogs confirmed
Rest In Peace Mulan🥺
That double kill at 6:10 is one of those “we should just F6 moments” if you’re the Rat
Oh god Arthur requires so much skills. 7 abilites he cant miss and 4 movement abilites. One of each cc and debuff in the game. Immune to slow and knockup. Impossible to run away from. Does the most damage in the entire game of all the physical gods. Always one ability up. Op Aa chancels. Why cant they just give him 7 global executes that kills all enemy gods and minions that has less than 100% hp
I wanted to test this strat I hope it doesn’t just replace glad shield as “the” sustain item.
Bradley Gordon uhm, glad isn’t a sustain item anymore, so this is kinda it
lori lamere wHaT nO wAY?!?! Oh wait I read the notes and knew that already. I was pointing out that it’s kinda sad that the cheap sustain item meta for solo isn’t actually changing.
Wait so what happened to glad shield, sorry I’m a little slow and don’t pay attention to a lot of videos
It got nerfed to the ground and lost all of its sustain which was replaced with a mid game passive. It's also a teir 3 now
Glads and berserker shields got completely changed and now they don't provide healing. So gods like arthur who abused glad shield can't do it anymore and the question has become if soul eater can replace.
This is exactly how i play arthur 😂
what a game for u
Yo this tahjuan, Srry I cant ever catch a stream but I don’t miss a vid. Love your content bro
Bro imagine you’re hyped to try Mulan on PTS with new warriors and no more glad so you’re feeling really good with her 2 and then you see you’re against Fine KA. My deepest sympathies
With these new patches, is it just pro players who get access to the new items and changes early, or am I missing something?
Mackem A Cuppa No they’re playing on a Play Test Server of the game. This is done when there are patches so that they can try to find bugs and make balance decisions based on actual player data. If you play on PC you can download PTS
@@jarrodschulz9611 Nice one. I only just got a PC after 20+ years of console gaming. I'm going to go download it now!
Fine- Arthur is dead
Also fine- +15 kills game without dying
17:32 lvl 9 ares while being lvl 18 lol
I’m hoping that glad shield is bugged with cu chus 2 like it used to be
Am I having Deja vu? Or did you really say this, last time soul eater was buffed? I've got to look for this video.
Okay I looked it up it could be Fineo-"King Arthur still carrie's ranked" or a SolodoubleJ, this other person's video, one of those three influenced by a Deja vu, feeling.