DEWALT 20V MAX Framing Nailer Review
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Checking out the brushless DEWALT framing nail gun! This is a cordless tool we have been looking foreword to testing and reviewing, and now the time has come! We will give you a comparison to the pneumatic framing nailer that we usually use, and also give you the features, specs, and our opinion as pro builders about what we think.
My opinion after using it for a couple days... you could build an entire house with this nail gun! All you would need would be two five amp hour batteries on a rotating charge. It doesn’t have quite the firing rate that the pneumatic gun has, but I think I was actually more efficient overall due to the fact I could move so freely from one workspace to another without re-routing air lines. Also when framing walls flat on a floor surface, air lines tend to always be in the way, causing slow-downs.
My one dislike is that the 21 degree gun I was using had to be Re-loaded with nails more often due to the clip length of the Hitachi nails we were using. I couldn’t fit two full clips on top of the few the gun leaves to prevent dry firing.
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I agree strongly with this review. I had always used pneumatic framers until almost 3 yrs ago when l got to try these Dewalt batt. framing guns. A real game changer. We are often at repair jobs. Water or fire or tree or whatever damage. No power ever at these. We use our little generator to charge the batteries. I was amazed at first but now sold on these guns. Sometimes a whack with the Stiletto is needed to drive her home but not that often. And the adjustment for depth for plywood is very good. I think l made my own review. Thanks Perkins Brothers Builders.
You guys sell me on it in the review then stick with a pneumatic as your primary :) should have explained why. I'm a light framer/GC and I need to replace my old pneumatic nailer and debating this. Or maybe I just need to buy both!
I've had my dewalt nailgun for roughly 3 years, LOVE IT !!! i typically only do small jobs, Decks, garages, roofs. but last summer me and 3 friends framed a complete 1600sqft house using only 3 dewalt framing guns. zero issues ( sold my pasload gun after i bought the dewalt)
Larry Haun disapproves of this message. That dude could out-nail anyone or anything!
Larry and Joe were the original cordless nailers
What's funny is that they used pnuematics...they just hand-nailed for the video series. We hand nailed everything when I started in the early 2000s.
Rip OG Larry
You know he specifically said it's irresponsible not to use a nailer. Efficiency was his highest concern. He DID mention it's sad that people don't know how to hammer anymore.
Rip legend
I am a deck builder in Canada and have used the Dewalt 31 degree nail gun for 6 years. It’s a great nailer until you get to November/December and the temperature goes below freezing. It stops working at colder temps. So at that point the compressor, hose and pneumatic nail gun comes out of the trailer. The nail capacity on the cordless unit is less than that of the pneumatic guns. Not a bad gun though since it gives you more mobility around the job site which actually saves time and frustration.
Thanks for the video guys.
I self built our cottage this summer and used the Dewalt 30 degree nailer. Loved it. No issues. The only jams I had were into LVL, hitting steel plates, other nails or if I had the setting wrong (when switching out nail sizes), Maybe 10 jams all summer. My rating 10 outa 10
The Milwawkee is the goat in this game right now. Hands down. I have built two cabins and one house with mine so far and it’s flawless. Only complaint it the weight. It’s not light especially when working over head. The Current Dewalt needs updates, but I have no doubt their next version will be a contender.
I agree, when it comes to nailers Milwaukee is best. It may be heavy but doesn't make as much noise as dewalts flywheel
My dewalt has been stellar. I framed out my basement and have used it for several other projects. I'm not a pro, but it has been perfect for what I needed.
Hey guys, I have almost two years using this nail gun, let me tell you in a crawl space fixing floor joist, post or beams this is the best tool ever, obviously there is more maintenance required because the dust, but in confined spaces nothing better than this.
I have a very similar project coming up, installing wood posts to foundation beams, in the confines of a 2ft tall crawl space. When you said "this" I guess you meant the Dewalt electric? When you said "more maintenance required because of the dust", what did you mean?
Hello takla3210, about your first question definitely I’m recommending the Dewalt 20 V Max, for any confined space, and about your second question, is important to be conscious that pneumatic guns are blowing out the dust easily in the duties with 0 maintenance needed, either way I just recommend to use some wd40 and clean very well your Dewalt battery powered nail gun to assure longevity in the quality and performance.
Love the gun own two of them and use them everyday. The only things I would change is the belt clip, you have to really make sure its latched on your belt properly because it will fall, know this from experience and its not the cheapest tool to get fixed. Other then that the gun doesn't work well with cheap nails! Again great gun overall huge dewalt fan
Cheers
What nails do you recommend? I usually use Pasload in mine.
I have a love hate relationship with my dewalt 20v framing gun. I love how portable it is, and the lack of needing an air hose or compressor. I don’t love having to finish setting nails. It does not like shooting into engineered lumber. That’s my main complaint and dislike with it. I have had mine for about 2 years, and haven’t had anything break, and i do use it everyday. i am am excited about the new Milwaukee framing nailer, looking forward to trying that one out.
I hear ya! I hate to say it but I should've bought the Metabo/Hitachi.
Hitachi is a fantastic gun. Nails into LVL no problem
The M18 gun is 1000x better than the dewalt, you'll ditch pneumatic if you pick one up
the weight is the killer for me with the Milwaukee framing gun. My dewalt does just a good as a job without the shoulder rehab needed.
Try the Senco Cordless Framing Nailer. FX35 P. It’s awesome. Drives nails into lvl and good all day on one battery.
I have the dewalt framing nailer, but after seeing the Milwaukee framing nailer in action which just released..i was immediately sold
But the Milwaukee is three times as heavy
I just bought the Milwaukee to replace my metabo brushless framing nailer and it is a little heavy it’s about 2 lbs heavier then the metabo
Love my 692 , framed my whole house no problems, yes it's a little slower but makes up for it with no hoses
I'm 39 and was framing with my stepdad when I was 16 - we had air. I think your dad was just cruel haha :)
I'm 64, I was framing in my twenties and we had air. He was cruel.
@@MrMedville56 I'm 67. We used hammers and had never heard of nailers when I was I was doing this in my younger years.
Spot on- I am not a pro builder, but I have over 25 years of part time construction and home improvement under my belt. If i need speed and uninterrupted power- my Paslode 350 30degree with orange trigger is where its at. But for convenience, tight spaces and small jobs my Dewalt DCN692 is the right tool. Two nailers- same nails and both can get the job done.
I just got the Dewalt 30deg framer and 16ga angles trim nailer to replace the old Paslode fuel cell style I had for 15 years, I don’t use them very often but the fuel and cleaning were always a pain with the old Paslodes, I love the new Dewalts! No cleaning! No fuel to buy and they are quieter!
I've had and used a 30 degree model since 1st release. Heavy and there is an occasional bent nail or miss fire. Doesn't like a weak battery but is my go to nailer.
I had a pneumatic gun from harbor freight lended it to a friend that was remodeling a house. He used it till it quit he replaced it with another one from HB. I always wanted a battery powered one so i took the HB gun back and finally got the dewalt. I've been getting rid of the cord the hose and even the gas can and i do really like this framing gun.
I bought the Milwaukee M18 30° nailer a few months ago....it uses a compressed air cylinder that it charges to fire the nail instead of the flywheel like the DeWalt so you don't have that rev up sound. So far I have been digging it....wish it held more nails but they do sell an extended magazine to hold two full strips of nails. I run it on a 5ah battery and it lasts quite a while. Love the videos guys. Keep up the good work 👌👍
I've been using that 30 one there for about 90 days and I have no complaints but like you I'm still going to keep a compressor in a nail gun in my truck 💯💯💯💯💯
I have this nailer and I would recommend it. I do handyman work, sheds, siding, fences, decks etc.. I have not compared it to other cordless nailers or built a whole house with it, but it is super convenient and powerful enough for 95% of tasks. It doesn't like dealing with hard old-growth wood. I really think the maneuverability and low maintenance make it totally worth the investment. I became invested in the lineup of dewalt cordless nailers only because they were the easiest to find good second hand deals on when I first needed one, versus hitachi being less ubiquitous, and milwaukee is more expensive and did not have a framer until this year.
I haven't built houses in twenty years.
But that is an engineering feat right there.
Give us a review when they make a palm nailer.
2.5 years and it operates same as when I got it. Houses, decks, fences... It can replace your air gun. The only thing I found it to be lacking with was actually building a fence, your arm will be ready to fall off after a day of nailing dog ears. Oh also, FOR SURE, this nailer works better with higher amphour batteries. I operate mine with a flexvolt and bump fire mode is smoother, more consistent. Try it.
Flexvolt did NOT help mine work any better. I finally gave up and got a milwaukee. The milwaukee has NEVER ONCE failed to fully set a nail...I've had it a couple years now.
I work for an Amish framing company. We have a Dewalt 30°, a couple of Hitachi, and now a few M18 Milwaukee nailers. Those battery powered nailers simply do not have the same reliability or life expectancy as pneumatic nailers (my personal favorite is the Max SuperFramer but we mostly have Paselodes).
So in the shop where we build panels we primarily use Pneumatic and almost all of the Battery powered nailers are dedicated to the road crew. I'm not on the road crew much but since we have so many I'm assuming the portability is worth the higher maintence cost.
I have the milwaukee version and love it. Built a tiny house in my side yard with it. No issues
I have the Dewalt one and I like it a lot. Got to see the Milwaukee one in action today and was very impressed. If I didn't have all Dewalt tools and batteries I might even say I'd go with that one.
I have this and the Milwaukee and prefer the Milwaukee but I use a lot of lsl's in my builds and needed the power you get from a Milwaukee that the dewalt didn't deliver but dewalt is still good for standard lumber-- Plus the Milwaukee has the magazine extension which is pretty badass also--
Jared Pittman but the Milwaukee it’s way to heavy , I buy one and use it for 2 hours and I was exhausted
This was my next video I was going searching for. I'm a Milwaukee guy. What was the difference in price? How long does the 5.0 last? Or would buying another 12.0 for the framer be best?
I'm an old school fool who still uses air tools but, I can see the benefits of running cord free for punch list, drywall & solid backing etc. My thought is, in the extreme cold of far northern Michigan's winters this might be a blessing for no freeze up like air tools tend too? Good video as always.
I have the same gun and have similar issues with the nails bending over. I called the support number to inquire why this is happening and was told that it is definitely the nails causing the issue. I was told to use only dewalt nails to avoid the issue all together. It has helped.
Hey Eric I just finishes framing up a house with the cordless dewalt. Trust me its a great gun but after like 5 boxes of nails the return spring failed. Returned it to homedepot & same problem with gun # 2 after about the same # of nails. Bought the Milwaukee gun & it is more powerful & more consistent. Has a little more weight to it but love it. Give us a review after you run about 5 boxes thru it. Hope it gives you good service
Milwaukee is stepping up there game.
Sorry to hear about your issues with the gun. I've heard they have had that problem. I thought it was years ago, though. We've had two. They guys never even touch the pneumatic anymore. Probably going on 5 years now. Ours have been great and I couldn't even count how many boxes we go through. I'll bet we have 5 boxes on standby. Hope you can get a good one.
The dewalt is great for repairs and maintenance. As far as framing a house maybe not. I have the dewalt and the Hitachi. The only nails I think work great with the dewalt are the paslode nails. Zero issues. I've used stanley nails and it kept gumming up the dewalt with paper and glue. Awesome review.
Great product. I own one. Built shed and a deck with it. Building shed walls was so fast that I was amazed how quickly walls were up and standing strong.
I know you are on the dewalt battery platform, but a lot of people say that the Milwaukee and the Metabo HPT (hitachi) guns are better because they bump fire faster and don’t make that annoying humming that the dewalt makes because of the flywheel. All great guns though!
I would be surprised if any of the top brands would not finish a job and pay itself off in the investment into their battery platforms. I've never had a severe issue with Dewalt as it was introduced for me a decade ago, it was the safest choice in my head but those Milwaukee tools look slick. At the end of the day it's about how much you want to pay because they will all perform sufficiently to each other top brand.
I just picked up the dewalt 20volt 21degree framing nailer today... so far I freaking love it. Shot about 50 3 inch nails through it so far and am very happy. I own literally like every dewalt tool they offer so it was a must get. I hate the idea of dragging around a compressor and hose, so this will be my go to. Only con is the capacity for the 21degree. They should of made it to were it could hold 2 racks at a time but not a huge deal.
I own a Milwaukee framing m18 battery powered and love the gun way better and less louder than the dewalt take a look into it!!!!
I also own the extended mag it’s way better
i have used both... battery ones are great if you have little jobs in many different areas... no setup time, but air nailers are king imo
I'm in the UK and most guys outside of workshops are using cordless / hoseless nailers.
I switched to the Dewalt from the Paslode gas nailer. The gas was a pain with Paslode but in hindsight it's a better nailer, albeit much louder.
The Paslode is lighter, more powerful and better balanced. Both perfectly capable though.
I'm not a professional builder, but I've built my fair share of structures. 4 years ago we build a garage at my house and used good ole hammer and nails. Last week my brother asked for my help to build a garage at his place...... and I immediately bought this dewalt nailer. I'll never swing a god damn hammer again. Hahahaha.
Hammer=Amish Nailer.
I used a DeWalt cordless on helping a friend set roof trusses and sheet it. We did not have power on the job site. It worked well for framing. When it came to nailing off the sheeting, it tended to jam (bent nail as in your video and sometimes bent or double in the gun) especially at the end of a clip. I did pretty much burn one up, as I had it in bump mode and went like I would with a pneumatic.
Overall, I think it has its place, but for high volume, rapid speed nailing like sheathing I would stick to the pneumatic. In cramped places or locations with lots of obstacles, the cordless is a winner.
Pneumatic nailers command respect, loud and capable. Cordless seems convenient. If I was a fulltime builder it would be a no brainer to have both.
Now I’ll have to buy the Dewalt nailer. We will need two of them when we start our barn. Thanks for the information. Very helpful.
Get the Milwaukee or Hitachi instead. Both are much better than the Dewalt.
Sweet just got a good deal on the Milwaukee framing nailer
Where at? I have been wanting that milwaukee nailer for a while but haven’t seen it on sale yet. Was hopeful for Black Friday as I have big framing job coming up and dreading the compressor. I have milwaukee trim gun and Brad nailer. Just need to upgrade on the framing nailer.
Ben Glass in Canada I forgot where it is I will get the name soon but it was 539cad for the kit that came with a 5 ah battery it was about 150cad off normal price
Only good deals on the Milwaukee I have seen have been on market place and probably stolen. I’ve yet to see them discounted in stores. But good for you if you found a deal.
Ben Glass deal is from ihl Canada
I call BS dude!!!
Another great video!
Could you guys do a video on your work trailers? Tool storage in your trucks? Just something on how you guys keep your business organized.
Thanks!
Appreciate the review, well done. I’ve been contemplating a battery nailer for about a year. Had a butane gun for awhile and HATED it. FYI, Bostich has been making pneumatic framing guns since long before you were even born. I’ve been using them since ‘78...and they weren’t new then.
I know right? 38 here. My pops had air nailers when i was a baby. Wtf.
we have a 30degree gun and we love it its perfect for the times you dont want to get the air out lol i build decks exclusively and i prefer air 90% of the time great video also yes they dont like skinny nails!
We use the paslode gas powered framing nailers and those things don't skip a beat and they go all day
Yeah but paying for gas vs charging a battery
I'll get one when I'll start my handyman business but I'll keep the air gun for framing a whole house.
Got a cordless dewalt a couple months back. Not going back to pneumatic nailers. It shoots just a little slower but not messing with hoses makes up for that time lost. Plus I'll grab the dewalt where I normally wouldn't have set up a compressor and hose. Or if there is no power on site
Finally, I've been wondering why you guys always use the compressor. Honestly, it seems like people in Aus / NZ have been using cordless nail guns for ages... I was wondering why you guys would still use the airhose.
Scott Brown carpenty from NZ has reviewed an interesting cordless nail gun called the airbow - check it out! Its essentially a portable air tank you recharge, attached to a nailer. Power of pnematic, no hose!
Awesome to see another Scott Brown Carpentry fan! Been watching him for a while and he's great! Though I do love Perkins Brothers too!
Bought my 20v dewalt 21 framing nailer almost a year ago. Certainly wouldn't frame a house with it but it's great for smaller jobs or when working up on a ladder or scaffolding. It has its limitations and is at times finicky, but all around it's a great cordless framing nailer. I was using it today for a smaller job and it was nice not to have to drag a compressor around, find a place to plug it in and deal with a hose! My only real complaint is that the rafter hook is pretty much useless. I've dropped it a few times, BUT it's survived!
It took a worksite break-in/theft to get us to buy the dewalt framing gun and it's just so practical since we already use their tools. It feels heavier than a paslode and batteries can be expensive, but I believe it definitely pays itself off with mobility. For an occasional framing job, it was a great purchase...but the plastic parts feel cheap and loading parts give me trouble and have me reload.
Another good alternative to air is the Paslode XP cordless nailer. They use gas cells and a battery. They have the punch of pneumatic nailers without cords or hoses. I love mine.
I have the Milwakita framing nailer (Milwaukee nailer with a Makita battery adapter). Never used my pneumatic framing nailer, always used screws. After doing a small set of stairs/ landing with the nailer instead of screws, I'll go for the nailer every time from now on.
Have the dcn692 and love it for the reasons you mentioned in the video but had a ton of issues with jams right out of the box. It was okay with 16s but terrible shooting 8s, I ended up using some dry lube (teflon based) in the driver channel and it was night and day difference. The gun says no oil but I was ready to throw it in the ditch so I figured last effort and now it's amazing.
I have the 30 degree nailer...I love it...but then again I'm just a home owner and didn't want to carry around an air compressor for the times I'm working around the house or helping a friend out. I can attest to the nails also getting bent sometimes and then having to mess with clearing it out...but fir the most part, works as intended: mobile and quick!
Great review! I think the depth and power adjustment has sold me. Had to break out the pneumatic the other day on 1/4” sheathing because my paslode was shooting straight through
@KelMaster Construction sorry I didn’t clarify. It’s the battery/gas paslode, so you can’t dial it down. Wish it did because I really like it otherwise.
U should check out the hitatchi (metabo hpt) and the milwaukee battery framing nailer if ur impressed with the dewalt those 2 r on a whole nother level
I got all 3 curious to see how long the hikoki and Milwaukee last before needing to be charged, the dewalt seams to be more maintenance free cam just by the spring kit off the shelf
I have the dewalt you probably just bought. I love it, but it will not repace a pneumatic. I am a GC, I don't build houses, but I use mine enough to say you'll be happy. It does have a few shortcomings. It doesn't like really hard stuff, like smart board, that's why it bent those nails. And it is slower than the pheumatic, but you'll adjust to that immediately. If you run it nonstop, you hear the flywheel start to slow down, while the gun gets hot.
The finish up: I often find I grab mine for large projects, like sheeting a roof, thinking I will get the pheumatic later, then end up finishing the whole job with the DeWalt. It's good
We bought both the DEWALT siding cordless and the dealt framing cordless for the reasons you stated. After about a month of regular use, they jammed more than they worked and I took them back for a refund. I’d love to try the Milwaukee cordless framer but I don’t own any other Milwaukee cordless tools, so there’s a battery issue. Love the videos, but I’m not sold on the DEWALT cordless nailers. FYI, 99% of our tools are DEWALT so it pains me to write this.
Good info... thanks!
I got one of these nailers from my brother in law after he wore it out.
I replaced the driving profile and return springs and it works like new.
Not as powerful as the new milwaukee but it sure is quiet compared to air or gas nailers
In Canada in winter it is freezing cold. The pneumatic nailers eventually freeze up and break. Framers I know have a trailer full of backup guns. The electric nailers will dramatically change that.
Paslode also do cordless pneumatic nailers im350+ which look good. Got a dewalt myself which is usually fine but they can jam and are annoying to fix.
I have been owning a couple dewalt battery finish nailers for years. They work great. But for my workhorse stuff I still drag a hose. Its hard to top my hitachi that shoots 4” ringshanks all day long.
My great grandfather was a carpenter, homebuilder, and general contractor. He build a large number of homes around here. He never used power tools. He could sink framing nails with 1 shot of his hammer every time. Toward the end of his life, when power tools were starting to catch on, he had no interest. Stuck with braces, planes, his disston handsaws, and his hammer.
I've had 2 of the 20 volt dewalts. The newer one has a couple differences and is a little better than the older one. I also have the 30 degree. But the best battery powered nailer is definitely the metabo. Heavier but it thumps.
Hopefully the metabo goes on sale for Black Friday. I have yet to really c any deals on there cordless nailers though.
@@borys444 they are expensive
Yup, I think you nailed it. A good tool to supplement, but not replace, the current standby. Since you're already using a Paslode nailer, have you ever tried any of their gas-powered models? Those seem like they might provide a good middle ground for big projects.
I have the hikoki/hitachi 30 degree and I love it!
From using both the Hitachi framing nailer to the Dewalt cordless framing nailer there's a HUGE difference in weight. not sure if that paslode is just really heavy or something but its extremely noticeable even in comparison to gas paslodes
only pro of the dewalt in my eyes is not buying gas. but what you don't pay in gas, you'll pay for with your body, especially if your working above your head at all
I have a Dewalt framing nailer and the nail bending situation Has happened as well. I found that at max setting the Dewalt nailer sometimes doesn’t sink nails all the way. I bought the Milwaukee framing nailer and have not had the nails bend and no matter the wood or situation will sink every nail. I would say the Dewalt framing nailer is good but Milwaukee framing nailer comes out ahead.
Thanks for the review! I have been thinking about adding one to my 20 volt arsenal!
In air nailer you have carry the weight of the hose also. If working high it might be quite much.
I've had both brands plus the air powered nailers and I'd have to say dewalt Cordless is a great tool for the jobsite. Passload makes a cordless one also but the big takeaway for me is it runs on battery and gas which if you don't use the gun daily the gas leaks out overtime and then you have to buy another gas cartridge.
Same issue here with the cartridges
Well done presentation. Honest review and to the point, no useless BS talk. The poor hammer is getting less and less respect, though. Countless years of great service but then just tossed aside. Ain't fair.
Use to keep my old framer and compressor in the trailer. Then I just bought two more of the cordless Dewalt a and never looked back. You’ll eventually switch completely the drawbacks are no where near the gains.
I use that is it is great. I also have the angled finish nailer and 18g brad nailer. Wouldn't be without any of them.
Nice... planning on get some cordless finish nailers as well!
@@PerkinsBuilderBrothers I certainly don't think you'll regret it.
Not sure if you get the same offers near you, but i bought the nail guns as bare units and picked up dewalt drills and impact drivers on offer with 2 5ah batteries (plus charger) for £150 (1 5ah battery is at least £60). You can end up with extra tools for guys to use or spares. It is def. cheaper way to get more batteries in Uk anyway.
When you both did the "weight" tests, the DeWalt didn't have the battery in. Obviously, it can only be used when there IS a battery in it, so that would make it heavier.
Likewise, the air nailer cannot be used without the air hose attached, which would make it heavier as well ;)
saw the thumbnail n was wondering who in 2020 is reviewing the dewalt framing nailer lol....i cant believe u Perkins dwl. i do have that nailer but honestly after seeing all the reviews on the milwaukee n hitachi i'm surprised u went with the dewalt
I must have bought a faulty one, because it would drive a nail no more than half its length then jam every 4. I'll stick to air. Only Dewalt I have are the impact drills.
Mine does the same. Its 4 years old but i havent shot a full clip of nails because all the 10 nails ive shot failed. Almost all my tools are dewalt so i tought this was a good buy because of the battery platform. Cost me almost 1000 dollars.
Metabo! I have both and I have to break up fights over the metabo, the poor DeWalt just lays on the ground
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Yep I have two, they’re awesome. If only their finish guns were as good! I am back to pneumatic first finish and battery for framing
I would definitely agree the Metabo HPT is superior to dewalt there’s no wind up and it has a lot more power/consistency
@@loganpatterson4674 yeah my metabo 16ga doesnt like 2.5s. Leaves them proud often. I really want it to work because the framer works so well...
I have one but it bends the nails just like what happened to you... I love it because it’s cordless but I am about to buy the Milwaukee nailer... from what I hear there is no comparison between the DEWALT and Milwaukee. Apparently the Milwaukee is a beast 🤷♂️
My Milwaukee cordless framer is insane!
I own one and way better than dewalt!
@@nathankettler7964 agree! No annoying wind up and wind down sound too
Hopefully the nailer goes on sale for Black Friday.
Realy my Milwaukee framing nailer, its a beast
I have the Hitachi.. Similar drive system. Killer gun. 3 nails a second and zero ramp up time like the dewalt
I have the same nail gun, went with the 21 degree vs 30 for the full headed nail and because the plastic collated/21 degree type are noticeably less cost vs paper.
Taking the limitations into account vs not having an air hose and all the support equipment to make compressed air its about a wash.
Dewalt/Stanley got it close but they totally dropped it on the whole magazine size. It should have been sized to hold one full strip plus a couple more so when the dryfire lockout comes into effect its easy enough to drop in a new strip and keep going. The plastic collated nails come 25/strip normally and they advertise it will hold 49 nails... Which it will not physically do anyways. More like 35-40 depending on the exact nail your using. As well all the debris from the plastic collation makes another mess of trash to sweep up.
I’m still waiting for battery technology to improve even further before going cordless. I just feel like I can still be ahead with my pneumatic nailers, in several situations I like to fire them off pretty quick, especially when sheathing things off
Dude im 60 and when you were a kid they had pneumatic guns. I prefer thw paslode frame master 100. But also hate air hoses especially in winter. I also use it for small jobs or tight spaces but if there is room like you got there i still with the paslode pneumatic. Wish i hadn't sold my has guns (paslode) so quickly
Milwaukee cordless framer is the way to go. Framed an entire 2500 sq ft house with it and it never jams. Ever!
I have the Dewalt battery nailer, and it is really finicky. I had the same problem with ring shank nails. Definitely not for production framing. But it's so nice when you don't have to get the compressor out for small framing jobs.
Great video and review
I have the 30 degree cordless. And I find the time I save in set up and not having to re route hose is huge. Sure thy aren’t as fast as the pneumatic. But I feel, for example doing deficiencies, or interior framing, or roof. So most of the framing stage. The time I save not having a hose, still makes me faster, even though the bump fire is not as fast.
I have a framing nailer and it survived a 16' drop man was i scared but it held together well just the battery flew off thank God that all that happened built a 60x50 work shop. Its worth it with especially with the 5ah batteries
💥 1:41 clipped head vs full head. Great vid. 🤟🏼
Try out the Milwaukee one you’ll love it dude!!
Im a Milwaukee guy and I've been seeing that Milwaukee has a new 45 degree framing nailer... i haven't got to play with one yet.
City Electric Supply in waynesville, stocks Milwaukee. Tell Scott and Chris to give you a deal... the guys from marion CES sent ya
perfect point you made for the battery gun...going around different places like in attics, closets etc...checking spots or doing little repairs... maybe only 10-20 nails needed... makes no sense to setup air gun for small jobs if you have this in your truck..
Used them all, still like the hose-less paslode. I think it’s because the ergonomic grip and weight. Yes they use fuel cells and yes they need cleaning but for me it’s still worth it.
Finally a review of this. Took a long time.
It's been a while since I've used a battery version but I remember them being much slower rate of fire than a pneumatic, which is a deal breaker for me. for most people, most applications, that's not an issue.
The Milwaukee m18 30° is a beast. It is heavy though. I’ll probably stick with my NR90A for most things though cause it’s light and will drive anything
I love it. If I could change anything it would be the way u load the nails. You have to pull it till it locks then load your nails and then unlock it to slide and hold the nails. overall it works, I think its worth the money. I wouldn't use it every day. I like using it early in the morning or late evening so the neighbors don't cry about the air compressor noise.
Is this taking place at the next building a house series👀👀🤔
We can only hope!
I’m from the hammer days. Anything is better than that!
Eric.....love you, your brother, your crew, and your videos! But do yourself a favor.....try that Milwaukee 30 degree nailer.....you will thank me later!